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by prepull i mean the m+ timer prepull π
Potion.
So nothing for rage generation huh?
arcane torrent
Actually it's a really useful skill for those sparky mobs in VP, instantly pops their shields
Nope.
you're a sparky mob in VP
gottem
ur right

the top tier tech is rallying for ToD with ur monk
saves like 0.2 seconds


Tod is such a weird button
Like good job, you killed the mob literally a split second before it would've died anyway
Just to look bigger on the meter
at least its aoe now
which can be beneficial
but yeah its weird
sometimes it can squeeze out that last bit of dps needed to prevent a cast
but in general is just "dam"
So I've been asked to become one of the main tanks for my guild in the next season, kinda want to get a head strat in keys now.
Looking at the stat prio, Haste/Vers all the way through, or do we want to stack Crit for more parry at some point?
Ilvl>haste>crit=verse
Ideally a well balanced setup of stats with prioritisation on ilvl/haste.
I'm sitting on a lot of mastery right now, coming from Fury
Right now my stats are:
9% Crit, 33% Haste, 54% Mastery, 12% Vers
oof thats mastery
I'm trying to do the reverse right now..going from haste/crit to haste/mastery for fury.
π
Crafted a second set of rings/neck for starters.
mwahi wishes he had that much mastery
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I've got one more Spark available so I'm probably going to craft a Vers/Crit neck
33% Haste at a good point or do I want more of that as well still?
youllmake a haste so,thing neck
Actually did some reshuffling after visiting the bank with my stored gear, looking better on the Mastery part already, just a little confused on what Trinkets I want to be using
That's without Into the Fray for haste as well
play arms. problem solved.
just make sure u dont sacrifice ilvl(=strength) for the "right" stats
only care about secondaries if its the same ilvl
Oh no, this is all wearing my highest iLvl stuff.
Mostly everythiong is 447 iLvl, a few bits here and there 441 upgraded from dungeons/raid.
Only 3 pieces of 441 left is my Neck and trinkets

I will take note of this 
fwiw that's about how much mastery we recommend you have
Fair enough! Time to dive into M+ and see how I fair with this tanking thing π
Any dungeons in particular we run Spell Block or is it not that big an issue this season?
Uldaman and Neltharus basically
Just bear in mind that rings/amulets don't have strength on them so there higher ilvl doesn't necessarily mean better and you have to look at the secondaries 
All toons done, let's goooo
pog champion

not enough?
too much
It's only 13 keys altogether
I wouldn't be able to either but I have a group of friends and we just have fun doing keys on all our alts
It's more about the hanging out with them than the keys
imagine having friends 
+16 it is
Truly tragic
ikr
20s for portals then 18s


don't even fall into the portals trap
u only gotta do them once
something to do
it what context?
Can drop on st
17 Halls
its in the m+ build for this season
It's what you drop for spell block I believe

dont u just change tough as nails? or do we run bolster
im out of the loop
with tier set we go bolst?
have to run bolster because tier
on other hand - we had to do 20s at the begining of current season, so its not that bad actually
we'll be more undergeared than we were at the start of s2 though
because the tier is 39 ilevels, not 26
Yeah. Pacing slowed down a bit, but getting a crest for every key is so much QoL
the only bad thing about gear in s3 is our 4p bonus 
how to make friend 
i dunno
find strangers
talk to them
???
profit
I try that but no friends 
Talking about keys, I wonder how high of a key 445 ilvl can do season 3
as that is sub LFR level, I guess 10s or so, before you get smacked. Hard to know tho, dungeons could be free, and you could do 25 day 1, or you could be hardstuck at 2.
That not even concidering damage types, magic/bleeds and stuff
if it is all melee hits tho, we chillin
Depends entirely on you and your group, but 20s will happen literally day1
Nice deffo gonna attempt 3500 in season 3
People seem to think the dungeons won't be overtuned, that is good newz
Dungeons will rarely be overtuned enough to not be completed day1 on lvl 20
Dungeons like Wcm and atal will be the easiest ones I reckon
Brh and dht should be fairly chill aswell depending on 2nd boss
Just had a fury warrior taunt off my monk in NL
Amazing gameplay big brain reflects
yer if they know what they doing

is it worth doing any zaralek stuff
ok thank
It'll also give you a decent chunk of flight stones
But that's rly not a limiting thing unless you upgrade every item you can find
can just spam m+ for some gear otherwise ig
It's nice for alts..i did the dream event for all 402 items on alt and now doing the cave stuff for stones.
Since i can't get to m+.
π
Any.
I managed to do a +2 yesterday and beat out almost everyone on DPS, even though they were higher ilvl than me..not because i'm good..but because for w/e reason my hunter got beacon from the weekly quest.
You want wyrm and aspect crests
Aka heroic and mythic crests
For the hero/myth track gear
You don't need any crests that aren't wyrm or aspect
Outside of gear that is just low ilvl which you're gonna replace by just spamming 17s
ok thanks
You get champion gear from 11-16s
And aspect crests from 16+
But only hero gear from 17+
Heroic drops about 100 wyrm fragments, so yeah that too
And you need both wyrm and aspect to upgrade champion/hero gear
i will pretty much only be dungeon spamming
but i need to figure out best way to gear
and upgrade
i suppose i dont have any "stored" catalysts from missing out right?
If you can find a good H pug, you can get a lot of wyrm frags from just the first 7

Woof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJ6N6xSECQ major hosetown vault for yogi today
PLAY IT LOUD - FOLLOW LYRICS BELOW
Adam Lombardo: Vocals, Lyrics
Matt Motto: Guitars
Lyrics are as follows:
Rudy revs up the bus, now he's ready to fly
And you don't have a car, so you're hitchin' a ride
Got a five-figure deck, but no job or supplies
And you're buyin' more cards as your credit cards rise
You've got an iPhone 38
But you don't...
hopefully its something i can collect transmog on or use
I've been tanking for mythic experiment where u have to tank in the middle but as soon as boss hits 50% we ran into problems
here is the log
not sure how to deal with taunt swaps.. in some links they say like norman clear stacks at 6
then on Tek says 4 to 5 stacks
well u cant do that as there 2 bosses u basically have to clear when the raid debuff falls off
unforuntantly your raid comp isnt helping u here
as your are supposed to use a dk and lock auto attack slow on the bosses
to just melee slower and give less stacks
but well u cant do that
so the best u can do it play correctly and pray u get healed
in terms of playing correctly u arent im afraid
in this one attempt im looking at your TC casts are higher than your SS
SS should be your highest cast and most cast spell by farm
3 ferals tho
its not actually far off the CPM u need it should be around 19
u are around 16on it
u are pressing far to much revenge for a heavy magic fight
your barely pressing IP at all
You definitely need to have your rogue play numbing imo
the raid one is better
but yer
Depends on what you need
If your healers are doing fine
Numbing is better
i mean a guild progging experiments now needs the raid wide
obviously that is opinion but meh who knows
i see a dk and 1 rogue
Itβs worth trying Iβd argue
so.. with the 50% on boss.. do we clear stacks when the next one comes?
Brew and pwarr will just get shredded
I always clear as soon as a new boss comes down if possible
u mean all debuff or just the tank debuff thing
anyway back to your play, u arent using any thing under using IP under using spell reflect
under using your cds
u cast LS once this attempt
its got 1 min CD u lived for 4 mins
yah that time its hitting me hard
u used demo onece
TR once
they have a 45 sec cd
TLDR stop prioing TC over SS
use everything on cooldown
clear debuff when the raid debuff falls off
but something is hitting me hard there from the 2nd boss
yer the tank debuff
thats when i end up getting hit hard..
u and the monk should have 1 boss each
yah i think we didn't know end up tanking both bosses
cos i was trying to clear his or clear mine
so never tank both bosses
ok gotcha
when we have 1 boss each .. once my stacks reach 5 to 6 i clear ? just safe when raid debuff falls off
Absolutely not
You generally want to clear as soon as possible on mythic
As in whenever the debuff falls off
Third boss you guys will need to swap aggressively
Because he attacks fastest
And you donβt have slows
Swap every 4ish on him if you can
the right are my casts on our first kill cropped to about the same length can u see the difference
they wont be able too without AA slows i think its 9
No shot
mwahi was complaining about it but they didnt use slows
Thatβs fucking brutal
some of the games im learning about on steam are really
π π π
dont forget the last 1 attacks faster
Holy shit 9 stacks
ok.. iwiill remember that thx guys
Taking 9 stacks consistently sounds nightmarish
and no, its not postal this time, it seems worse, or at least like the dude whoever made it was a pyschopath killer
No HPala either for beacons
and he was the lowest ilvl in his raid 
he did not have a good time
if the boss died and his character lived, and he lived irl
its all good and worth it
#protection message just incased u missed it this is your casts vs mine
9stacks, m experiments?
@ionic fern on your first kill of experiments how high were u going 9 stacks wasnt it?

@lilac bloom I also have quite a few comments on your brew
as soon as the 2nd boss cast that aoe
Since thatβs my main
I hit 6 and start wailing
8 or 9, je.
I hit 14 yesterday on my DK because one of the DPS decided to taunt the boss and I couldn't reset stacks for a while without wiping the raid... that was fun.
i just dont know what to do when they end up hitting me hard with both bosses during that time
yer thought so just wanted to check i was making somthing up 
u play correctly (links back to Screen shots) #protection message and u use externals
and make sure the healers are also healing the tanks
you close to title?
ok will do thx
"on my dk"
Only 14? Pathetic
Pre-nerf Zskarn on DK taking 16 stacks and 2 bombs 
Bombs for the big death strike
The big issue with playing DK... Do i use defensives to not pingpong that hard or do I go for the big deathstrikes to make healers jealous...
Trick question - the answer is always death strike
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they're not mutually exclusive
and tanks are meant to be the majority of the healing on themselves
healers do not want to heal tanks
What is the affixes next week?
Tyrannical, Entangling, Bursting
go mental afk for 3 seconds and the entire group your fighting heals to full insid sanguine
oof maintenance
no regerts

Im the same this week
1 key, 1 vault
too busy playing my HC Warrior

Free week then
it's push week
too busy playing shooter games
Whatcha pushin bud
sorry question the great vault claim system is next week or? I mean for example we clear raid boss this week, we claim the great vault next week or this week?
am cheating, have a griup
ym
holy he unlocked social interaction
actually though i am re-obsessed with factorio again
might replay BG3 soon too as well
and I maybe need to try starfield again but it is sort of extremely boring and not good
i'm like 90% sure everyone who enjoys starfield just sunk cost themselves into forcing themselves to like it
Whatever you do in the week works towards unlocking the next weeks vault available after each tues maintenance
Role Playing Games are fun to me, but Rocket Propelled Grenades are even more fun to me
have minigun, will travel
dang based
you should play ultrakill yogi
i'm not sure if boomers would have a heart attack if they did tho actually
or a stroke
CV11 is shilling that game..... and it is by fucking APOGEE
Nah, because what if you did 8 vaults at an 11 key level, then did another 8 at 16? would you not be able to claim the 16s because you chose the 11?
i hear its good, but i have a huge back catalogue of pc games im not up to date with yet
Bethesda games in a nutshell, they'll create the framework for something, but it usually takes the community to mod it into something actually enjoyable
spent 2006 until 2016 on xbox
give it like 2 more months and I'm sure it'll be a blast to play
most recent boom shoot i played was zortch
Boltgunner is a recent boomer shooter that is getting a lot of good press too
i think you might love that one actually
im not knocking them persay, but they seem to be quite odd ppl to me
It's a singleplayer game yogi
If someone can mod minecraft to run doom, I have no doubt some wizard is gonna eventually manage to create a fun game loop in a bethesda game
40k i mean sorry, i just cant immerse my self in that game or world
same with MC and gardening games
you don't have to its literally a boomer shooter
You run around and shoot things the lore is not relevant
maybe some day
i still didnt even buy that female duke nukem game that was released a year or 2 ago
40k lore only matters as much as you care about it
there's a lot of gods and factions and sub factions and cults who are dedicated to annihilating the sub faction of a sub faction because they salute the flag .02 seconds slower or think red is a better colour than black but tldr; Everyone is the bad guy, no one ever wins, all of time happens simultaneously and war never changes so you may as well just roleplay as Doomguy and kill everything that moves
The complete Xbox game collection of xlordkarnagex
this is my games list, not counting pirated and dos and like pre internet games
what is entangeling like to deal with?
Just walk away
bro angry video game nerd made his own game?
its a nothing burger, especially for us, avatar removes the effect
there are 2 of them avgn games
Sometimes I like to eat the entangling stun to give my healer something to do in the weekly 16s
oH! i thoguth it was tageted. Its a patch on the ground?
yeah like 5 meter radius or so wide? (Or yards or w/e measurement wow uses) It's very small, takes about 2 seconds to walk out of
but you can usually just strafe out of it slowly to avoid any back shots, you barely have to move the mobs most of the time
Ainβt no way thatβs your name
oh and sorry but it is targeted, think of it like a boss mechanic that throws an aoe at you and you have to move out of the way within 8 seconds
cool cool
huh?
My friend's auto-generated xbox live gamertag was BarkingChiliDog
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aint no way that was randomly generated
it comes from this
It was haha
this guy used to make quality videos daily and then one day he went to go get milk and smokes
He kept it for a long time because it was so good, but he changed it to something lame a couple years ago
What a shame, that's probably the best gamer name ive read all week
ikr
used to have the randomized xbox name "delayedbeerman"
Except this warlock who had the perfect warrior name, Exeqt
Meanwhile mine was Ghash85ETD (for Elite Tauren Druid, like the WoW band but druid instead of chieftain)
haha, one of my buddies actually has a gnome war named Executie
2007 was a good time
xbox games for a literal dollar
really, shitty ones, mind you but hey,
ITS THE PERFECT NAME... Unless they're a male gnome, those things are fucking cursed
always got at least 1 dollar in bank account lmao
nah the toon is a she haha
alright perfect name it is
i tend not to roll gnomes because they tend to have low hp in alot of games and alot of other big problems
bg3 they can crawl into small holes tho
i just cant get into it im sory lol
im happy for those that can
pokemon as well, thats another game series i liked for a short while and then fell out of it completely
fair, my toons tend to lean towards amazonian women-esque but still, gnomes finally being able to use their size in an rp video game is freaking amazing
As opposed to WoW, where your size gains you a better camera angle in tight spaces and the ability to swim where others walk π
i like rise of triad as well, one of earliest examples of fps with differing character options
heroic leap? over a staircase with over 3 steps? Not on my watch
each one has unique base movespeed, hp, height and more
I find myself constantly using the engi pad to swap all my chars to tauren just for the camera height
and this was around the time doom game out original doom, didnt really click for me that rott had those features, but i could sort of tell
yo, usually season ends after 2 affix cycles. we have 2 weeks until season end
wdym we have 2 weeks
2 last seasons it ended after 2 cycles
Seasons last as long as Blizzard says they last. It's never been a fixed amount of time.
Dont expect 10.2 to drop before late october at the earliest
We get 6 weeks of timewalking first
They're not even gonna be done with raid testing on PTR until like mid-October. There is a 0% chance that season 3 drops in 2 weeks haha.
Yes
Yes
if it was late octiober expected
It's the turbulent timeways event
^
wtf this is the longest season ever
doesnt mean its gonna continue that way
its like special event i guess?
yeah, you get a stacking xp buff, and timewalking gives heroic loot
Its 6x TW in a row with HC loot instead of normal
And big XP buff
Oh and a mount if you do 10 dungeons per week
6 weeks in a row
who says it has to be before the 10.2 i dont get why that part seemingly arbitrary got added to mix
oh btw, if no one saw this, in season 3 you can fill vault with heroics and timewalking π big for alts
oh fuck me I forgot that was a thing already
there's a mount?
You wont miss out. Its one of those ugly fucker scalewings in beige
This in beige
for some people, heroic dungeon feels heroic difficulty, especially if they are in complete greens and blues
Sry for bad pic. Game is on 2nd screen rn
oh thank god, I really wasn't looking forward to even more alt friendly content
I gotta work on my leveling challenge during this event since I completely skimped on the last one
What challenge
whats your best time?
oh idk, honestly the leveling experience in Dragonflight leaves a lot to be desired
It barely beats BFA horde-side leveling in the most boring leveling category
LETS GO OLAAAAF
Oh yeah thats fair. My vulp rogue is stabbyfoxxy
is there like a server command to check if the maintenance is done or something? or maybe their website?
there's a realm status page, but fwiw they are up
^
Been up for at least 15 mins
Green point = up
Wish me luck in LFR papa needs nelth trinket on enh
Done HC this week with 30 man and me being the only dude to roll on mine and we had 3 DK trinkets drop xd
π

what stat do we want on the chromatic essense? Haste? Vers?
Thank you.
is it worth using the Silent Star cape for prot? compared to a same ilvl cape with crit/haste/stam?
In raid, yes. In M+, no
since we are switching to alt runs until next patch, I guess gem socket it is, thanks
oh btw question, we always talk just get the higher ilvl but what if 402 ilvl but providing set bonus vs 415 without? to be more clear should I go down a few ilvl to activate the set bonus?
You can just convert the higher piece to tier so
idk but just go to the catalyst and check lol
it all can be converted, I have like 3 alts at ilvl 350 with 4 piece from the time rifts/dreambound lol
Meanwhile my 426 mage only has 2pc 
but also just do DOTI with a plate stack and catalyze the 437->441 gear
there's no reason not to be 441 pretty much instantly on alts tbh
and even less on a main cuz what else are u even doing. just do DOTI don't even have to do M+
Yeah but why actually play your alts when you can just park them at weekly events and play them for 10 minutes every 2 weeks?
You've heard of pay to play? Well I play to pay.
where was it again in veldrakkan? I think I ever visit but forgot
It's in tyrhold
is voice of the silent star good for us? does it take an embelish slot or anything?
i have crafted back but got a 447 voice of silent star in my vault
You just lose stam
And I donβt remember what the stats on it are and whether those are good for prot
It's shit in keys, decent in raid
Honestly though the cloak is giga overrated for most specs
The proc rate and uptime suck
ah okay ill sim it to see then
It will probably be an upgrade
Itβs just usually a marginal one that Iβve seen
what would make it bad in keys vs raid?
the one where we got the tyr statue?
here, approximately
If you go up to the top of the seat of the aspects in Valdrakken and fly straight east, you'll see it kind of on the left side of the hold. It's a big door off by itself
ok that black arrow? I'll try visit it now
Its left of tyrhold 2nd floor door in the mountain
Are you guys getting fcked by vodafone too today?
what is vodafone
european megacorp
Think AT&T
^this
Maybe Verizon?
Found it again thx all π
lol, iirc an Verizon owns Vodafone..
Only the US parts tho but ye
Verizon Communications bought Vodafone's 45% stake in Verizon Wireless for $130 billion in 2014.
ah yeah
Is verizon as shitty as vodafone?
I have verizon
I usualy have dope coverage with no DCs high ping or w/e but today i had more disconnects than in the last 5 years combined
Insane
its pretty reliable if I say so, but I do find the speeds not that great but it can depend on location thats for sure
only use it for my cell phone tho
use comcast xfinity for home internet, they the biggest in usa
Got Telekom for my cell. Vodafone mobile coverage is the worst lol
I have T-Mobile
How much are you guys paying for gigabit in the US?
i pay 80 dollar a month for 250mbps but also includes television
Mmm, depends on the company I suppose
including TV channels
Oh fair
Gigabit for me is like, $130 or something? And it's only a gig down; it's like 35mbps up
I dont even know if vodafone offers TV. I dont have one apart from my console usage
yeah my upload speed sucks ass..
I pay 40β¬ for 1000 down 500 up
If I move like 6 miles south, I can get google fiber which is like $70 for 1 gig down/up, or $125 for 5 gig down/up
5gig sounds like one of those things you want but will never use lol
Yeah there was a city offering 10 gig service like...4 years ago in Tennessee
And only one dude was subscribed to it because he uploaded high res MRI images from his house regularly
most of america is like 5 or 10 or some crap
xfinity has a stranglehold on much of the country
Iβve got gigabit fiber with att for about $70 myself
What's the upload on it?
1000/1000. Not sure why it would be any different for people. Doesnβt suffer the same issues as copper cables lol
1000/500 here also fiber
Thatβs wild
Pretty sure ISPs just fuck you over with upload
I have 500 down 20 up 
I would have to pay 10 β¬ more for 1000 1000
but spectrum is only fiber to the hub so
copper the rest of the way
I live in cologne. Internet has to be good in major cities
Took an internet issue that lasted 6 months with the cable company to convince me to move for fiber but it ended up being worth. Wonβt live somewhere without it now.
osnap lol apparently i can get att gigabit for 55 a month for a year O_O
Gigabit is dope af especially for stuff like gamepass
Downloading starfield to try it for 10 mins wouldnt be possible with less lol
8K HD hentai
They thought I was bluffing when I told them I was going to find someone else since they were the only ones to serve my old place so 30 days later I upped and moved and never looked back. They still send me offers too.

Meanwhile I pay for 50mbps down (best I can get where I live somehow) and get 30 
You should itβs nice. Mine used to be 50 a month for several years but Ive got issues with them maybe once a year at most and itβs usually pretty minor. Power goes out before internet.
I lived with 6 MB down for 5 years. The dark ages were truly horrible
In high school Iβm not sure what the exact speeds were but my steam download speeds were around 300-400kbps
Since the US is so big i can imagine that smaller towns have shitty internet exclusively
This was 10 years ago btw
Oh boi
And I live just outside one of the biggest cities in the country
time to test the current 4p in a 5 heroic weekly π
I had 500 kbps for the last 2 days because of maintenance and oh boi i couldnt even watch 240p youtube
TIme to buy an old phone with a 720p display to not waste screenspace
If I want to download games itβs an overnight or while Iβm at work thing
Canβt stream above 720p/30fps on discord and thatβs shaky at times
Oh ye i remember having to leave my PC running when i wanted to download games
Cant you just use mobile tethering or do you guys have data caps for mobile aswell
I donβt have hotspot with my plan
I have unlimited data
But I never get more than 2 or 3 bars
Also I have an iPhone 8 so only 4g lte
Why the fuck do you need to add hotspot to your plan. I just hit usb tethering and im good
This applies to literally everywhere Iβve gone in the city btw
The fuck is usb tethering
Connect your phone to your pc per usb then use usb tethering to use it as a router
Why would I do that
Cause faster than 30 down kekw
Weird stuff
Ive used my phone for the last 2 days as a router and got like 55
With 4g
Sometimes a bit less ofc
Uh speaking of which for the catalyst transform where do we get the currency? Do we have to farm it or is it given free for weekly?
you get 8 in total
per character
so, dont overcatalyse
s1 catalyst you get 1 per week with a cap of 6 you can hold at a time
but s2 catalyst is 8 total, no more than that iirc
so don't transmute everything, just do 2-3 when necessary and then call it a day?
ye
Wait what
We get 8 in total?
Oh hell no how the fuck do i get normal transmogg for my DK now
On wowhead i cant find anything about 8 charges
You can only "hold" a max of 8 charges, but you get 1 every reset as long as you are under 8
Ye just checked my DK has 8 charges and i defo used 1 or 2 already
it appears so
Dont do that again nom. You scared me
π€·ββοΈ thats how I understood catalyst
sometimes we need mini heart attack, counts as sports
keepin you on your toes
Im 31 next month every mini heart attack could be the last
boomer

How old are you?
28
yeah those are words
lmfao
Damnit nome Iβm 27 for another month
catch up idiot

Lived in london for a year, can confirm vodaphone sucks some basketball sized cajones
WTF IS THIS
That's the loot rolls
Also shit tbh
idk
Worth it
the ones where like, you buy fiber internet from your city sounds really good
kekw
Its fine 99.9% of the time
But when they have maintenance
Oh boi
Dude I couldn't get more than a weak 4g signal anywhere from southall to woolwich
Walk under anything made of brick? zero signal, and that's like 90% of the entire city
My cellphone has telekom
Vodafone cell is unusable
Also to hop on the shitty internet convo, I'm on a 10mbps net/tv plan for $100 rn
Least it's not a contract tho
My man is getting ripped
Canadian internet is just a national scam
Pretty sure internet everywhere is a scam
"Two hand dagger"
Hunter
and the skill with it
thoridal was the silliest fucking legendary, it did less dps than other epic bows
because it was a rogue wep
Nah
Analogkid was a cool guy, he deserved it
All the top parsing hunters are using thoridal
nowadays sure
They had to fix it little guy
Originally it was dogass.
back in OG it didnt have the arrow dps
back when the 3:2 macro existed it sure wasn't great
cuz it spawns arrow itself
So it was brokenβ¦
so it did less dmg than normal bow cuz it was just missing a big part of the calculation
precisely
iirc the best weapon for like 99% of the time was that rifle from karazhan
So they never fixed thoridal during original TBC
I donβt see any patch notes on it- except it being added and it being made βuniqueβ lol
what i've learned is that it literally doesn't matter what was original or not
not just in that game but any random nostalgia reboot or whatever
People will pick and choose what they want to remember as being good or cool or faithful or even correct
but lets not forget about en passant


Looks like the old 1:1.5 rotation surv used to have to use
but needlessly more complicated
and more mana intensive
It is bis!
someone tell me why an update about waycrest doors is important i think i've been in that dungeon once in my life
And it is complicated to cover each haste threshold in order to get the best dps
Also kill times are like 2 min in classic lol
Oo whatβs the update?
They just said an update
It's the newest wowhead news about M+ PTR testing starting soon
have like the doors been broken or something
I have zero idea how that dungeon goes
There was an order i dont remember
When it was top right it was bottom left after
And the other way around
Probably just all doors open all the time now
Cause less rng = more better
anyone has a suggestion on how to gear alts? made a blood dk alt, did the dreamsurges to get to 402 ilevel
M+
Run m+
do i go straight to m+?
what key level shud i go for?
My sham was 405 or so this week and is now 435
You dhoild be able to tank 11βa without much issue
damn have nt touched dawn at all π
Dawn is giga op for alts
400 can probably do 11s, definitely 6s or 7s or w/e the cutoff for the second affix is
Yeah, I did Dreamsurge -> Crafted gear -> DoTI
yeah dawn is insane for alts. Crests for days, you basically get guaranteed half spark from every boss
And craft 424
woa
If you need sparks, hit Heroic DoTI
Heroic doti gives sparks?
half a spark per boss if you're like my alts
ok thanks for the tips! really helpful
Yeah, I think they accidentally gave it the same chance for them as m0 lol
oh damn I forgot doti has a heroic now
Time to hit heroic doti with my rogue lmao
Because normal heroics/m+ definitely do not have that kind of drop rate
of course
you need a CRAFTER OF YOUR PROFESSION to craft that gear
<---- praying for a leatherworker to exist for shaman gear
I always put up my orders public
WIth 100g commision
Cause everytime i put in a real amount someone makes it T3 xd
Always start with jewelry on new alts. T3 mats cost like 10g per ring and guarantee 424
whenever I see that I try my best to lower my skill as much as possible
i always end with jewelry because i want to get the pain of weapon costs out of the way first
Dw when i recraft i give 10k for 447 safe everytime
not to mention weapon is the single biggest power gain
But fresh T3 crafts break my heart so its 100g
yer alright in my books then
I tip 20k on all my crafts except crests
Ye but 3x424 jewelry gives the biggest ilvl spike over a wep and gets you into grps
I do 5k on crests
imagine having money
All i see with crests are 1g no mats provided lmao
I usually say tip whatever but I gotta charge for the insight, people still usually throw 10k my way its so lovely
I've seen people get so butthurt by people charging like a 6k fee for guaranteed r5 or something
I finally found the hourglass recipe, just gotta hunt down lariat before next season to start sniping the next tier early
like they put a lot of work into grinding that shit out and they're very likely using their industrious insight
or w/e it's called
I dont mind 6k. BUT when i ask in trade chat and 15 ppl text me i pick the cheapest
illustrious
That's the one
i have zero idea how the crafting system works anymore; my brain discarded that knowledge when I went on hiatus for S2
Yeah and the more you craft high tier gear, the rarer it is
I got my smith skilled by telling ppl ill do it for free since first craft
Then used insight
ig they were trying to even out the crafting field so one person or group couldn't hold a permanent grip on the market
What i cant stand is ppl asking for 15k for a T5 424 ring tho
Oh that's literally why I dropped mining for JC just to fuck over those scalpers
yeah...r5 424 is like automatic r5 probably at this point lol
i'm too poor for that, man
DF has spoiled me, I can't even touch normal flying anymore, feels like I'm on a ground mount again
Same. Just give me the WOTLK DK starter proto drake as a draonriding mount and im gucci
Everywhere ofc
I want them to make some very funny dragonflying mounts
give me like a snail that just spits or something mega dumb
sorry sure this is a
but what dg trinkets do we want now with this rotation?
raid trinkets
oh man, the maned one, cant remember its name, but you can remove its hair and horns and it looks like a flying sluggy boi

If you mean S3, we'll have to wait and see what they do with some of the older dungeon loots possibly
nah mean now
ofc it does
But if you really can, raid trinks are the best for us
But he asked about dng trinkerinos
it's pretty notable, too, last I heard/checked
i dont get peoples aversion to just puggin raid
I just get week 1 curve with a pug then sneak into all the good grps on wednesday morning. Problem solved
I don't like to just randomly pop in to raid groups because sometimes people have their knickers in a bundle and I cba filtering
i still do it tho
like any normal raid trinket is better than any m+ trinket
and normal raid is real easy
Next patch has atal dazar, I'd assume eye of rezan trinket gonna be good for us cus of haste proc? Or do we just want static haste
Dargrul shits on almost all trinkets of equal ilvl
man guess im gonna have to slave through the raid 
its only 1ppm
rezan is good
but not good good
eye of rezan used to be good back in the day at least
Just do first 3 bosses for essence and anvil and you good
^
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even if i dont play i at least usually follow whats happening and going on but now i literally haven't looked at anything for the past 6 months or so
so sorry for many questions
This discord is made for questions isnt it
We just misuse it for off topic all the time

I want to eat some canned fish
go get fermented herring
Go get some bitches how bout that
Donβt tell me how to live my life
(Iβm sorry I love you)
pickled herring do kinda slap tho
nish lookin for some fish smelling p
chipadin is finally done with heroic
surstrΓΆmming
nomer its push week
The anvil hardens
no, not allowed in this economy
whatchu pushin bud
GET PUSHED OUT OF THE GUILD YOU STUPID FUCK
I can never remember that dudes name
Gromnak?
Need push week to do 18s instead of weekly 16s
But his content is hilarious
I can never remember anything about this until it gets mentioned
chips vault again
Stupid raid leader gives unclear instructions the the professor
Catch the professor live @ www.twitch.tv/gromnak
I didnt do anything on warr
This is my favorite Gromnak sound bite
Uh oh did you get ionβd again nim?
But my sham has 6 choices with full HC clear and 3x447
Cant wait to get 6x shit on my 435 that needs EVERYTHING
5th week in a row
I need to find time to pug raid sometime this week
lul
Donβt worry homie Iβll be in the same boat the odds of a 447 helm are slim to none 
i still dont have a 447 chest
full sockets too so fuck me
To bad its only 1 char
guess im going for 3k gold
do you have the one from the bfa raid?
No
What changed btw? Why the fuck do we have 8 hour downtime
joe fell on the server box
Oh no not joe
yea i feel bad for joe- it's lookin real bad
Lets hope joe gets better soon. Dont want anything permanent to happen to joe
JOE MAMA



this is some og internet content
Dude I was transported back into the days of 56k modems for a moment
Yogi was old when god was young
yogi helped write the bible torah and quaran
They are written about him
"stupid m+er, DOGSHIT" is the quote i think
TAKE A BREAK RICHARD? IT'S BEEN FIVE MINUTES
that's my all time favorite wow melt down, far greater than any asmon rant
anyone know prot warr main youtubers/streamers? i dont usually watch streams but i want to watch someone else play prot warr so i can get the craving to main this class again.
sense for high key vods
sense - nurfed on youtube
nice. thanks
we love virtue signaling
we absolute love putting current real world politics and values into games
It's my favorite way to farm reddit karma
I do not own the rights to the music or video. I just wanted to share it with you!
i dont use alot of social media
we love newspeak
We love chicken wings
^
wow was never as brutal as depicted there
well, not all orcs are greenskins
it was always very cartoonish
orcs should be brown unless corrupted by the fel
warcraft 2 was the best warcraft of all
im just gunna say it
warcraft 1 was EXTREMELY primitive
but a pioneer so
WoD actually had one of the most brutal quests I can ever recall, and it was just some dude in an ogron cave begging for us to kill him because they were slowly eating him alive
447 Crit/Haste main hand actually worth it in keys over 441 Forgestorm? I figure Forgestorm is definitely better for lower damage players, but would the 447 actually be worth it over the 441 if the proc is doing 2.7% of damage overall despite a 132K overall in the FH I just did? Got a spark I can either use on that or a crit/haste cloak.
About how much you feel like it needs to do to be worth the str and wep damage loss? Clearly better in raid but I'm thinking about lower target count dungeons where I'm doing closer to 100-110K
its not even "clearly" better in raid
cuz forgestorm is rppm
so its random
it can do 1% of your dmg or 9% dmg on a boss
it needs to do over 3% to be a gain
the consistency of a weapon with str over forgestorm is more beneficial in m+
outside of maybe dungeons like VP and NL where pulls are tiny
or Neltharus where the only dmg that matters is boss dmg rly
its not of huge importance to have a 447 with str or 441-447 forgestorm
but i got pissed when forgestorm was always below 3% of my dmg in m+
and after all these buffs we've received, forgestorm value has been going down cuz stats got obv better and better
play worse then smh
Fair. Well at least it'll boost my ilvl and all. If it's going to give me more dam I ain't against grabbing it lol. Was only considering the cloak because it's an increase for arms not much a difference for prot. Appreciate you.
Forge is so cringe
hate rppm
I think I progged forgotten experiments and rashok with it
And it was infuriating
Seeing the variance





