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ionic fern
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Lets be honest, you can easily carry 17 keys with any build.

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πŸ˜‚

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But like Nim said, it's very-very suboptimal.

jaunty jacinth
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Yea makes sense.

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Do we have anything to cast prepull?

ionic fern
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Ravager.

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Avatar as you Charge in.

lusty grotto
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And after that, demo roar and last stand

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Last stand with current tier that is

jaunty jacinth
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by prepull i mean the m+ timer prepull πŸ˜„

lusty grotto
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Otherwise use it whenever

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Last stand and rally

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For that case

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Both will reset

jaunty jacinth
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So nothing for rage generation huh?

jagged gust
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arcane torrent

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Actually it's a really useful skill for those sparky mobs in VP, instantly pops their shields

ionic fern
warm plinth
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gottem

blazing condor
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roasted

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at least we dont have to last stand fleshcraft anymore

jagged pier
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it was rally ls fleshcraft

blazing condor
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ur right

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the top tier tech is rallying for ToD with ur monk

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saves like 0.2 seconds

jagged pier
strong forum
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Tod is such a weird button

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Like good job, you killed the mob literally a split second before it would've died anyway

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Just to look bigger on the meter

blazing condor
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at least its aoe now

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which can be beneficial

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but yeah its weird

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sometimes it can squeeze out that last bit of dps needed to prevent a cast

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but in general is just "dam"

runic night
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So I've been asked to become one of the main tanks for my guild in the next season, kinda want to get a head strat in keys now.
Looking at the stat prio, Haste/Vers all the way through, or do we want to stack Crit for more parry at some point?

modern brook
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Ilvl>haste>crit=verse

ionic fern
runic night
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I'm sitting on a lot of mastery right now, coming from Fury
Right now my stats are:
9% Crit, 33% Haste, 54% Mastery, 12% Vers

ionic fern
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Drop some mastery into Crit if your gear allows it.

jagged pier
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oof thats mastery

ionic fern
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I'm trying to do the reverse right now..going from haste/crit to haste/mastery for fury.

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πŸ˜‚

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Crafted a second set of rings/neck for starters.

warm plinth
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My war has 50something% in prot too because fury main πŸ™‚

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50something% mastery*

jagged pier
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mwahi wishes he had that much mastery

ionic fern
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True.

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😦

jagged pier
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😦

runic night
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I've got one more Spark available so I'm probably going to craft a Vers/Crit neck

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33% Haste at a good point or do I want more of that as well still?

warm plinth
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Don't make a vers/crit neck πŸ‘€

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Make a haste/crit neck

jagged pier
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youllmake a haste so,thing neck

warm plinth
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You can't get enough haste that you stop wanting it

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Not this season anyway

runic night
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Actually did some reshuffling after visiting the bank with my stored gear, looking better on the Mastery part already, just a little confused on what Trinkets I want to be using

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That's without Into the Fray for haste as well

blazing condor
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only care about secondaries if its the same ilvl

runic night
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Oh no, this is all wearing my highest iLvl stuff.
Mostly everythiong is 447 iLvl, a few bits here and there 441 upgraded from dungeons/raid.
Only 3 pieces of 441 left is my Neck and trinkets

blazing condor
violet ginkgo
warm plinth
runic night
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Fair enough! Time to dive into M+ and see how I fair with this tanking thing πŸ˜›
Any dungeons in particular we run Spell Block or is it not that big an issue this season?

warm plinth
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Uldaman and Neltharus basically

blazing condor
warm plinth
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All toons done, let's goooo

blazing condor
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pog champion

jagged pier
warm plinth
jagged pier
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too much

warm plinth
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It's only 13 keys altogether

jagged pier
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i cant even bring myself to do one at this point

warm plinth
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I wouldn't be able to either but I have a group of friends and we just have fun doing keys on all our alts

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It's more about the hanging out with them than the keys

jagged pier
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imagine having friends sadge

warm plinth
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I'm your friend

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but am stinky NA

jagged pier
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your on NA

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just like @chilly brook

warm plinth
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Oh I made this lil guy if anyone finds it useful

strong forum
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+16 it is

warm plinth
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gotta do 18s for myth track next season sadly 😦

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from vault*

strong forum
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Truly tragic

warm plinth
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ikr

jagged pier
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20s for portals then 18s

warm plinth
jagged pier
pallid quiver
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don't even fall into the portals trap

blazing condor
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u only gotta do them once

jagged pier
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something to do

halcyon pasture
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whats the thoughts on blood surge

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we need the rage?

jagged pier
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it what context?

urban portal
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Can drop on st

halcyon pasture
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17 Halls

jagged pier
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its in the m+ build for this season

blazing condor
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when did we switch off bloodsurge to begin with

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thats what we've always used no

warm plinth
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It's what you drop for spell block I believe

blazing condor
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dont u just change tough as nails? or do we run bolster

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im out of the loop

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with tier set we go bolst?

warm plinth
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have to run bolster because tier

blazing condor
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yeye

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that makes more sense thanks

hardy snow
warm plinth
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we'll be more undergeared than we were at the start of s2 though

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because the tier is 39 ilevels, not 26

hardy snow
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yea, thats a cool change too

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overall gearing looks to be pretty cool in s3

warm plinth
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Yeah. Pacing slowed down a bit, but getting a crest for every key is so much QoL

hardy snow
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the only bad thing about gear in s3 is our 4p bonus keks

violet ginkgo
jagged pier
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i dunno

brittle owl
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find strangers
talk to them
???
profit

sick sentinel
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I try that but no friends sadge

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Talking about keys, I wonder how high of a key 445 ilvl can do season 3

cerulean tusk
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as that is sub LFR level, I guess 10s or so, before you get smacked. Hard to know tho, dungeons could be free, and you could do 25 day 1, or you could be hardstuck at 2.

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That not even concidering damage types, magic/bleeds and stuff

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if it is all melee hits tho, we chillin

jagged pier
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probably high teens -20s

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depending on tuning and comfort

strong forum
sick sentinel
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Nice deffo gonna attempt 3500 in season 3

cerulean tusk
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People seem to think the dungeons won't be overtuned, that is good newz

strong forum
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Dungeons will rarely be overtuned enough to not be completed day1 on lvl 20

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Dungeons like Wcm and atal will be the easiest ones I reckon

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Brh and dht should be fairly chill aswell depending on 2nd boss

sick sentinel
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Just had a fury warrior taunt off my monk in NL

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Amazing gameplay big brain reflects

jagged pier
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yer if they know what they doing

sick sentinel
blazing condor
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is it worth doing any zaralek stuff

strong forum
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Only for tmog

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Otherwise can hard skip

blazing condor
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ok thank

strong forum
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It'll also give you a decent chunk of flight stones

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But that's rly not a limiting thing unless you upgrade every item you can find

blazing condor
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can just spam m+ for some gear otherwise ig

ionic fern
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It's nice for alts..i did the dream event for all 402 items on alt and now doing the cave stuff for stones.

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Since i can't get to m+.

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πŸ˜‚

blazing condor
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:' )

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which crest do you want

ionic fern
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Any.

blazing condor
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i dont get the champion/hero distinction

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adventurer/veteran

ionic fern
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I managed to do a +2 yesterday and beat out almost everyone on DPS, even though they were higher ilvl than me..not because i'm good..but because for w/e reason my hunter got beacon from the weekly quest.

strong forum
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You want wyrm and aspect crests

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Aka heroic and mythic crests

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For the hero/myth track gear

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You don't need any crests that aren't wyrm or aspect

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Outside of gear that is just low ilvl which you're gonna replace by just spamming 17s

blazing condor
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ok thanks

ionic fern
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That's HC and 11-15 keys, je?

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For wyrm?

strong forum
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You get champion gear from 11-16s

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And aspect crests from 16+

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But only hero gear from 17+

hazy bronze
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Heroic drops about 100 wyrm fragments, so yeah that too

strong forum
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And you need both wyrm and aspect to upgrade champion/hero gear

blazing condor
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i will pretty much only be dungeon spamming

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but i need to figure out best way to gear

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and upgrade

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i suppose i dont have any "stored" catalysts from missing out right?

strong forum
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Best way is spam 17s and some 11-15s

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Idk how catalyst works these days

hazy bronze
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If you can find a good H pug, you can get a lot of wyrm frags from just the first 7

strong forum
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Didn't use it this season

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I had 4pc by week 2 cuz lucky

blazing condor
sick sentinel
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Woof

sick sentinel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJ6N6xSECQ major hosetown vault for yogi today

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Matt Motto: Guitars

Lyrics are as follows:

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Got a five-figure deck, but no job or supplies
And you're buyin' more cards as your credit cards rise

You've got an iPhone 38
But you don't...

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hopefully its something i can collect transmog on or use

lilac bloom
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I've been tanking for mythic experiment where u have to tank in the middle but as soon as boss hits 50% we ran into problems

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here is the log

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not sure how to deal with taunt swaps.. in some links they say like norman clear stacks at 6

jagged pier
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no lock, dk and 1 rogue

lilac bloom
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then on Tek says 4 to 5 stacks

jagged pier
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well u cant do that as there 2 bosses u basically have to clear when the raid debuff falls off

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unforuntantly your raid comp isnt helping u here

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as your are supposed to use a dk and lock auto attack slow on the bosses

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to just melee slower and give less stacks

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but well u cant do that

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so the best u can do it play correctly and pray u get healed

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in terms of playing correctly u arent im afraid

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in this one attempt im looking at your TC casts are higher than your SS

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SS should be your highest cast and most cast spell by farm

waxen frigate
jagged pier
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its not actually far off the CPM u need it should be around 19

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u are around 16on it

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u are pressing far to much revenge for a heavy magic fight

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your barely pressing IP at all

waxen frigate
jagged pier
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the raid one is better

waxen frigate
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It will benefit your raid much more than the atrophic

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Imo

jagged pier
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but yer

waxen frigate
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If your healers are doing fine

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Numbing is better

jagged pier
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i mean a guild progging experiments now needs the raid wide

waxen frigate
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Ok fair

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Lol

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That’s a brutal comp though for sure

jagged pier
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obviously that is opinion but meh who knows

lilac bloom
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i see a dk and 1 rogue

jagged pier
waxen frigate
lilac bloom
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so.. with the 50% on boss.. do we clear stacks when the next one comes?

waxen frigate
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Brew and pwarr will just get shredded

waxen frigate
jagged pier
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u can clear once before 50%

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and then u should clear everytime the debuff falls off

lilac bloom
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u mean all debuff or just the tank debuff thing

jagged pier
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anyway back to your play, u arent using any thing under using IP under using spell reflect

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under using your cds

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u cast LS once this attempt

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its got 1 min CD u lived for 4 mins

lilac bloom
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yah that time its hitting me hard

jagged pier
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u used demo onece

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TR once

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they have a 45 sec cd

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TLDR stop prioing TC over SS

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use everything on cooldown

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clear debuff when the raid debuff falls off

lilac bloom
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so i will have to keep the debuff longer till the raid debuff falls off

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gotcha

jagged pier
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well u cant keep stacking the raid debuff

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your just going to cause more raid damage

lilac bloom
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but something is hitting me hard there from the 2nd boss

jagged pier
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yer the tank debuff

lilac bloom
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thats when i end up getting hit hard..

jagged pier
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u and the monk should have 1 boss each

lilac bloom
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yah i think we didn't know end up tanking both bosses

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cos i was trying to clear his or clear mine

jagged pier
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they both get cleared when u touch

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so u should each have your own boss

lilac bloom
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so never tank both bosses

jagged pier
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no

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thats just dumb

lilac bloom
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ok gotcha

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when we have 1 boss each .. once my stacks reach 5 to 6 i clear ? just safe when raid debuff falls off

waxen frigate
waxen frigate
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As in whenever the debuff falls off

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Third boss you guys will need to swap aggressively

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Because he attacks fastest

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And you don’t have slows

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Swap every 4ish on him if you can

jagged pier
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the right are my casts on our first kill cropped to about the same length can u see the difference

jagged pier
waxen frigate
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No shot

jagged pier
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mwahi was complaining about it but they didnt use slows

waxen frigate
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That’s fucking brutal

jagged pier
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yer something dumb like that

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they didnt know

sick sentinel
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some of the games im learning about on steam are really

waxen frigate
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Does spell block work for pwarr???

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Like I assume not but

sick sentinel
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πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€

jagged pier
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dont forget the last 1 attacks faster

waxen frigate
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Holy shit 9 stacks

jagged pier
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it does nothing

waxen frigate
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Yea i figured

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Jesus

lilac bloom
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ok.. iwiill remember that thx guys

waxen frigate
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Taking 9 stacks consistently sounds nightmarish

sick sentinel
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and no, its not postal this time, it seems worse, or at least like the dude whoever made it was a pyschopath killer

waxen frigate
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No HPala either for beacons

jagged pier
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he did not have a good time

sick sentinel
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if the boss died and his character lived, and he lived irl

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its all good and worth it

jagged pier
uneven mason
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9stacks, m experiments?

jagged pier
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@ionic fern on your first kill of experiments how high were u going 9 stacks wasnt it?

uneven mason
lilac bloom
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i think we took like 7 stacks

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one of us

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and i probably end up dying

waxen frigate
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@lilac bloom I also have quite a few comments on your brew

lilac bloom
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as soon as the 2nd boss cast that aoe

waxen frigate
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Since that’s my main

uneven mason
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I hit 6 and start wailing

next pumice
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I hit 14 yesterday on my DK because one of the DPS decided to taunt the boss and I couldn't reset stacks for a while without wiping the raid... that was fun.

lilac bloom
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i just dont know what to do when they end up hitting me hard with both bosses during that time

jagged pier
jagged pier
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and make sure the healers are also healing the tanks

proper roost
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you close to title?

lilac bloom
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ok will do thx

proper roost
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only ~70 off atm choco

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push for it bruv

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oh cringe you're pushing as dps

waxen frigate
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Pre-nerf Zskarn on DK taking 16 stacks and 2 bombs wicked

uneven mason
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Bombs for the big death strike

next pumice
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The big issue with playing DK... Do i use defensives to not pingpong that hard or do I go for the big deathstrikes to make healers jealous...

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Trick question - the answer is always death strike

proper roost
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🀨

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they're not mutually exclusive

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and tanks are meant to be the majority of the healing on themselves

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healers do not want to heal tanks

halcyon pasture
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What is the affixes next week?

sick sentinel
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not sanguine, so infintitely better than past 7 days

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i hate sanguine immensely

next pumice
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Tyrannical, Entangling, Bursting

sick sentinel
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go mental afk for 3 seconds and the entire group your fighting heals to full insid sanguine

violet ginkgo
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oof maintenance

sick sentinel
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no regerts

plush tendon
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Im the same this week

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1 key, 1 vault

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too busy playing my HC Warrior

waxen frigate
proper roost
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it's push week

sick sentinel
waxen frigate
plush tendon
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Cylconian

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gotta get the WW axe

violet ginkgo
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sorry question the great vault claim system is next week or? I mean for example we clear raid boss this week, we claim the great vault next week or this week?

south zealot
proper roost
proper roost
sick sentinel
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this was a fun match

proper roost
# waxen frigate Whatcha pushin bud

actually though i am re-obsessed with factorio again

might replay BG3 soon too as well
and I maybe need to try starfield again but it is sort of extremely boring and not good

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i'm like 90% sure everyone who enjoys starfield just sunk cost themselves into forcing themselves to like it

jagged gust
violet ginkgo
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ahhh I see thx william

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I thought did this week, claim this week

sick sentinel
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Role Playing Games are fun to me, but Rocket Propelled Grenades are even more fun to me

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have minigun, will travel

proper roost
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dang based

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you should play ultrakill yogi

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i'm not sure if boomers would have a heart attack if they did tho actually

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or a stroke

sick sentinel
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CV11 is shilling that game..... and it is by fucking APOGEE

jagged gust
sick sentinel
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i hear its good, but i have a huge back catalogue of pc games im not up to date with yet

jagged gust
sick sentinel
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spent 2006 until 2016 on xbox

jagged gust
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give it like 2 more months and I'm sure it'll be a blast to play

proper roost
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Uh

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None of its issues are moddable

sick sentinel
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most recent boom shoot i played was zortch

proper roost
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Boltgunner is a recent boomer shooter that is getting a lot of good press too

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i think you might love that one actually

sick sentinel
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boltgun means 40k

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and i dunno if u ever met 40k ppl

proper roost
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yes its full title is WH40K Boltgunner

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Or whatever

sick sentinel
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im not knocking them persay, but they seem to be quite odd ppl to me

proper roost
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It's a singleplayer game yogi

jagged gust
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If someone can mod minecraft to run doom, I have no doubt some wizard is gonna eventually manage to create a fun game loop in a bethesda game

sick sentinel
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40k i mean sorry, i just cant immerse my self in that game or world

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same with MC and gardening games

proper roost
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you don't have to its literally a boomer shooter

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You run around and shoot things the lore is not relevant

sick sentinel
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maybe some day

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i still didnt even buy that female duke nukem game that was released a year or 2 ago

jagged gust
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40k lore only matters as much as you care about it

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there's a lot of gods and factions and sub factions and cults who are dedicated to annihilating the sub faction of a sub faction because they salute the flag .02 seconds slower or think red is a better colour than black but tldr; Everyone is the bad guy, no one ever wins, all of time happens simultaneously and war never changes so you may as well just roleplay as Doomguy and kill everything that moves

sick sentinel
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this is my games list, not counting pirated and dos and like pre internet games

halcyon pasture
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what is entangeling like to deal with?

remote venture
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Just walk away

jagged gust
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bro angry video game nerd made his own game?

sick sentinel
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its a nothing burger, especially for us, avatar removes the effect

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there are 2 of them avgn games

jagged gust
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Sometimes I like to eat the entangling stun to give my healer something to do in the weekly 16s

halcyon pasture
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oH! i thoguth it was tageted. Its a patch on the ground?

jagged gust
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yeah like 5 meter radius or so wide? (Or yards or w/e measurement wow uses) It's very small, takes about 2 seconds to walk out of

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but you can usually just strafe out of it slowly to avoid any back shots, you barely have to move the mobs most of the time

waxen frigate
jagged gust
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oh and sorry but it is targeted, think of it like a boss mechanic that throws an aoe at you and you have to move out of the way within 8 seconds

halcyon pasture
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cool cool

sick sentinel
waxen frigate
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That is the most Xbox live name I’ve ever seen

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I love it

warm plinth
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My friend's auto-generated xbox live gamertag was BarkingChiliDog

sick sentinel
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jagged gust
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aint no way that was randomly generated

sick sentinel
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it comes from this

warm plinth
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It was haha

sick sentinel
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this guy used to make quality videos daily and then one day he went to go get milk and smokes

warm plinth
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He kept it for a long time because it was so good, but he changed it to something lame a couple years ago

jagged gust
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What a shame, that's probably the best gamer name ive read all week

warm plinth
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ikr

sick sentinel
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used to have the randomized xbox name "delayedbeerman"

jagged gust
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Except this warlock who had the perfect warrior name, Exeqt

warm plinth
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Meanwhile mine was Ghash85ETD (for Elite Tauren Druid, like the WoW band but druid instead of chieftain)

warm plinth
sick sentinel
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2007 was a good time

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xbox games for a literal dollar

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really, shitty ones, mind you but hey,

jagged gust
sick sentinel
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always got at least 1 dollar in bank account lmao

warm plinth
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nah the toon is a she haha

jagged gust
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alright perfect name it is

sick sentinel
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i tend not to roll gnomes because they tend to have low hp in alot of games and alot of other big problems

jagged gust
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bg3 they can crawl into small holes tho

sick sentinel
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i just cant get into it im sory lol

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im happy for those that can

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pokemon as well, thats another game series i liked for a short while and then fell out of it completely

jagged gust
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fair, my toons tend to lean towards amazonian women-esque but still, gnomes finally being able to use their size in an rp video game is freaking amazing

warm plinth
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As opposed to WoW, where your size gains you a better camera angle in tight spaces and the ability to swim where others walk πŸ™ƒ

sick sentinel
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i like rise of triad as well, one of earliest examples of fps with differing character options

jagged gust
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heroic leap? over a staircase with over 3 steps? Not on my watch

sick sentinel
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each one has unique base movespeed, hp, height and more

opaque quest
sick sentinel
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and this was around the time doom game out original doom, didnt really click for me that rott had those features, but i could sort of tell

lament shell
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yo, usually season ends after 2 affix cycles. we have 2 weeks until season end

opaque quest
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wdym we have 2 weeks

warm plinth
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No we don't

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That's not a thing

lament shell
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2 last seasons it ended after 2 cycles

warm plinth
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Seasons last as long as Blizzard says they last. It's never been a fixed amount of time.

opaque quest
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Dont expect 10.2 to drop before late october at the earliest

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We get 6 weeks of timewalking first

warm plinth
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They're not even gonna be done with raid testing on PTR until like mid-October. There is a 0% chance that season 3 drops in 2 weeks haha.

sick sentinel
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wouldnt that literal be TW every week

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from now

opaque quest
warm plinth
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Yes

sick sentinel
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if it was late octiober expected

warm plinth
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It's the turbulent timeways event

opaque quest
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^

lament shell
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wtf this is the longest season ever

south zealot
sick sentinel
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its like special event i guess?

warm plinth
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yeah, you get a stacking xp buff, and timewalking gives heroic loot

opaque quest
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Its 6x TW in a row with HC loot instead of normal

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And big XP buff

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Oh and a mount if you do 10 dungeons per week

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6 weeks in a row

sick sentinel
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who says it has to be before the 10.2 i dont get why that part seemingly arbitrary got added to mix

opaque quest
#

Because they said its 10.1.7 content

#

On the roadmap

warm plinth
#

oh btw, if no one saw this, in season 3 you can fill vault with heroics and timewalking πŸ‘€ big for alts

opaque quest
#

Heroics Oo

#

I havent done heroics since BFA

jagged gust
warm plinth
#

there's a mount?

opaque quest
warm plinth
#

oh

#

Isn't that the netherray wannabe things

opaque quest
#

This in beige

sick sentinel
#

for some people, heroic dungeon feels heroic difficulty, especially if they are in complete greens and blues

opaque quest
#

Sry for bad pic. Game is on 2nd screen rn

jagged gust
#

oh thank god, I really wasn't looking forward to even more alt friendly content

warm plinth
#

I gotta work on my leveling challenge during this event since I completely skimped on the last one

opaque quest
#

What challenge

jagged gust
#

whats your best time?

warm plinth
#

oh idk, honestly the leveling experience in Dragonflight leaves a lot to be desired

#

It barely beats BFA horde-side leveling in the most boring leveling category

opaque quest
#

I dont even level DF anymore

#

I just lvl with timewalking

#

If i level at all

warm plinth
sick sentinel
#

i got the best vault of all time

opaque quest
#

LETS GO OLAAAAF

opaque quest
#

Then there is CHUBBYMURDER

warm plinth
#

Hey it's fitting

#

He's a panda rogue

opaque quest
#

Oh yeah thats fair. My vulp rogue is stabbyfoxxy

violet ginkgo
#

is there like a server command to check if the maintenance is done or something? or maybe their website?

warm plinth
#

there's a realm status page, but fwiw they are up

opaque quest
#

^

warm plinth
#

Been up for at least 15 mins

opaque quest
#

Green point = up

#

Wish me luck in LFR papa needs nelth trinket on enh

#

Done HC this week with 30 man and me being the only dude to roll on mine and we had 3 DK trinkets drop xd

warm plinth
#

πŸ™

opaque quest
hidden wave
#

what stat do we want on the chromatic essense? Haste? Vers?

warm plinth
#

Haste

#

Unless your raid team needs you to make the sacrifice and run something else

hidden wave
#

Thank you.

opaque hearth
#

is it worth using the Silent Star cape for prot? compared to a same ilvl cape with crit/haste/stam?

warm plinth
#

In raid, yes. In M+, no

opaque hearth
#

since we are switching to alt runs until next patch, I guess gem socket it is, thanks

violet ginkgo
#

oh btw question, we always talk just get the higher ilvl but what if 402 ilvl but providing set bonus vs 415 without? to be more clear should I go down a few ilvl to activate the set bonus?

warm plinth
#

You can just convert the higher piece to tier so

violet ginkgo
#

wait even the dreambound?

#

or even the suffused

fluid beacon
#

idk but just go to the catalyst and check lol

jagged gust
#

it all can be converted, I have like 3 alts at ilvl 350 with 4 piece from the time rifts/dreambound lol

warm plinth
#

Meanwhile my 426 mage only has 2pc keks

proper roost
#

but also just do DOTI with a plate stack and catalyze the 437->441 gear

#

there's no reason not to be 441 pretty much instantly on alts tbh

#

and even less on a main cuz what else are u even doing. just do DOTI don't even have to do M+

jagged gust
#

Yeah but why actually play your alts when you can just park them at weekly events and play them for 10 minutes every 2 weeks?

#

You've heard of pay to play? Well I play to pay.

dusky canopy
#

Play to pay gang

violet ginkgo
hazy bronze
#

It's in tyrhold

modern gazelle
#

is voice of the silent star good for us? does it take an embelish slot or anything?

#

i have crafted back but got a 447 voice of silent star in my vault

waxen frigate
#

And I don’t remember what the stats on it are and whether those are good for prot

warm plinth
#

It's shit in keys, decent in raid

waxen frigate
#

Honestly though the cloak is giga overrated for most specs

#

The proc rate and uptime suck

modern gazelle
#

ah okay ill sim it to see then

waxen frigate
#

It will probably be an upgrade

#

It’s just usually a marginal one that I’ve seen

modern gazelle
#

what would make it bad in keys vs raid?

violet ginkgo
warm plinth
#

If you go up to the top of the seat of the aspects in Valdrakken and fly straight east, you'll see it kind of on the left side of the hold. It's a big door off by itself

violet ginkgo
#

ok that black arrow? I'll try visit it now

opaque quest
#

Its left of tyrhold 2nd floor door in the mountain

#

Are you guys getting fcked by vodafone too today?

warm plinth
#

what is vodafone

hazy bronze
#

One of the biggest global telecom companies

#

I believe typically EMEA?

opaque quest
#

Axlash is right

strong forum
#

european megacorp

hazy bronze
#

Think AT&T

opaque quest
#

^this

hazy bronze
#

Maybe Verizon?

violet ginkgo
#

Found it again thx all πŸ˜„

toxic pewter
opaque quest
#

Only the US parts tho but ye

toxic pewter
#

Verizon Communications bought Vodafone's 45% stake in Verizon Wireless for $130 billion in 2014.

#

ah yeah

opaque quest
#

Is verizon as shitty as vodafone?

toxic pewter
#

I have verizon

opaque quest
#

I usualy have dope coverage with no DCs high ping or w/e but today i had more disconnects than in the last 5 years combined

#

Insane

toxic pewter
#

its pretty reliable if I say so, but I do find the speeds not that great but it can depend on location thats for sure

#

only use it for my cell phone tho

#

use comcast xfinity for home internet, they the biggest in usa

opaque quest
#

Got Telekom for my cell. Vodafone mobile coverage is the worst lol

warm plinth
#

I have T-Mobile

opaque quest
#

How much are you guys paying for gigabit in the US?

toxic pewter
#

i pay 80 dollar a month for 250mbps but also includes television

warm plinth
#

Mmm, depends on the company I suppose

opaque quest
#

80 fopr 250?

#

Damn i thought we germans get fucked

toxic pewter
#

including TV channels

opaque quest
#

Oh fair

warm plinth
#

Gigabit for me is like, $130 or something? And it's only a gig down; it's like 35mbps up

opaque quest
#

I dont even know if vodafone offers TV. I dont have one apart from my console usage

toxic pewter
#

yeah my upload speed sucks ass..

opaque quest
#

I pay 40€ for 1000 down 500 up

warm plinth
#

If I move like 6 miles south, I can get google fiber which is like $70 for 1 gig down/up, or $125 for 5 gig down/up

opaque quest
#

5gig sounds like one of those things you want but will never use lol

warm plinth
#

Yeah there was a city offering 10 gig service like...4 years ago in Tennessee

#

And only one dude was subscribed to it because he uploaded high res MRI images from his house regularly

opaque quest
#

Im curious what ppl use 5 or even 10 gig for

#

Well thats one usage

toxic pewter
#

most of america is like 5 or 10 or some crap

#

xfinity has a stranglehold on much of the country

solemn current
#

I’ve got gigabit fiber with att for about $70 myself

warm plinth
#

What's the upload on it?

solemn current
#

1000/1000. Not sure why it would be any different for people. Doesn’t suffer the same issues as copper cables lol

opaque quest
#

1000/500 here also fiber

solemn current
#

That’s wild

opaque quest
#

Pretty sure ISPs just fuck you over with upload

warm plinth
#

I have 500 down 20 up keks

opaque quest
#

I would have to pay 10 € more for 1000 1000

warm plinth
#

but spectrum is only fiber to the hub so

south zealot
warm plinth
#

copper the rest of the way

opaque quest
#

I live in cologne. Internet has to be good in major cities

solemn current
#

Took an internet issue that lasted 6 months with the cable company to convince me to move for fiber but it ended up being worth. Won’t live somewhere without it now.

toxic pewter
#

osnap lol apparently i can get att gigabit for 55 a month for a year O_O

opaque quest
#

Gigabit is dope af especially for stuff like gamepass

#

Downloading starfield to try it for 10 mins wouldnt be possible with less lol

waxen frigate
solemn current
#

They thought I was bluffing when I told them I was going to find someone else since they were the only ones to serve my old place so 30 days later I upped and moved and never looked back. They still send me offers too.

opaque quest
waxen frigate
#

Meanwhile I pay for 50mbps down (best I can get where I live somehow) and get 30 critcake

solemn current
#

You should it’s nice. Mine used to be 50 a month for several years but Ive got issues with them maybe once a year at most and it’s usually pretty minor. Power goes out before internet.

opaque quest
#

I lived with 6 MB down for 5 years. The dark ages were truly horrible

waxen frigate
opaque quest
#

Since the US is so big i can imagine that smaller towns have shitty internet exclusively

waxen frigate
#

This was 10 years ago btw

opaque quest
#

Oh boi

waxen frigate
#

And I live just outside one of the biggest cities in the country

violet ginkgo
#

time to test the current 4p in a 5 heroic weekly 😁

opaque quest
#

I had 500 kbps for the last 2 days because of maintenance and oh boi i couldnt even watch 240p youtube

waxen frigate
#

Yeah I usually watch videos in 720p

opaque quest
#

TIme to buy an old phone with a 720p display to not waste screenspace

waxen frigate
#

If I want to download games it’s an overnight or while I’m at work thing

#

Can’t stream above 720p/30fps on discord and that’s shaky at times

opaque quest
#

Oh ye i remember having to leave my PC running when i wanted to download games

#

Cant you just use mobile tethering or do you guys have data caps for mobile aswell

waxen frigate
#

I don’t have hotspot with my plan

#

I have unlimited data

#

But I never get more than 2 or 3 bars

#

Also I have an iPhone 8 so only 4g lte

opaque quest
#

Why the fuck do you need to add hotspot to your plan. I just hit usb tethering and im good

waxen frigate
opaque quest
#

Connect your phone to your pc per usb then use usb tethering to use it as a router

waxen frigate
#

Why would I do that

opaque quest
#

Cause faster than 30 down kekw

waxen frigate
#

It’s not tho

#

My phone buffers sometimes with like 480p

opaque quest
#

Weird stuff

#

Ive used my phone for the last 2 days as a router and got like 55

#

With 4g

#

Sometimes a bit less ofc

violet ginkgo
#

Uh speaking of which for the catalyst transform where do we get the currency? Do we have to farm it or is it given free for weekly?

strong forum
#

you get 8 in total

#

per character

#

so, dont overcatalyse

#

s1 catalyst you get 1 per week with a cap of 6 you can hold at a time

#

but s2 catalyst is 8 total, no more than that iirc

violet ginkgo
#

so don't transmute everything, just do 2-3 when necessary and then call it a day?

strong forum
#

ye

opaque quest
#

Wait what

#

We get 8 in total?

#

Oh hell no how the fuck do i get normal transmogg for my DK now

#

On wowhead i cant find anything about 8 charges

spiral wharf
#

You can only "hold" a max of 8 charges, but you get 1 every reset as long as you are under 8

opaque quest
#

Ye just checked my DK has 8 charges and i defo used 1 or 2 already

strong forum
#

it appears so

opaque quest
#

Dont do that again nom. You scared me

strong forum
#

πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ thats how I understood catalyst

violet ginkgo
strong forum
#

keepin you on your toes

opaque quest
#

Im 31 next month every mini heart attack could be the last

strong forum
#

boomer

opaque quest
strong forum
#

anyone older than me is a boomer, anyone younger is a baby

#

i dont make the rules

opaque quest
#

How old are you?

strong forum
#

28

opaque quest
#

Baby

#

When i was your age brads wife still worked at cracker barrel

strong forum
#

yeah those are words

dusky canopy
strong forum
#

catch up idiot

opaque quest
jagged gust
opaque quest
#

WTF IS THIS

modern brook
#

That's the loot rolls

proper roost
#

aren't all phone/internet companies dogshit

#

except government subsidized ones

modern brook
proper roost
#

idk

opaque quest
#

Worth it

proper roost
#

the ones where like, you buy fiber internet from your city sounds really good

opaque quest
#

kekw

opaque quest
#

But when they have maintenance

#

Oh boi

jagged gust
#

Dude I couldn't get more than a weak 4g signal anywhere from southall to woolwich

#

Walk under anything made of brick? zero signal, and that's like 90% of the entire city

opaque quest
#

My cellphone has telekom

sick sentinel
opaque quest
#

Vodafone cell is unusable

jagged gust
#

Also to hop on the shitty internet convo, I'm on a 10mbps net/tv plan for $100 rn critcake Least it's not a contract tho

opaque quest
#

My man is getting ripped

jagged gust
#

Canadian internet is just a national scam

opaque quest
#

Pretty sure internet everywhere is a scam

lusty tiger
#

Just unsubscribe from the internet

jagged pier
#

thats the real one

#

what u talking about?

pallid quiver
#

"Two hand dagger"

jagged pier
#

yep

#

new wep type

#

for certain classes

lusty tiger
#

Hunter

jagged pier
#

and the skill with it

lusty tiger
#

I like thoridal as the hilt, kinda sick

#

And who knew ragnaros had warglaives!

jagged gust
#

thoridal was the silliest fucking legendary, it did less dps than other epic bows

jagged pier
#

because it was a rogue wep

jagged gust
#

You literally used it if you wanted to save a couple gold on arrows

#

ROGUEBOW

lusty tiger
#

Nah

jagged gust
#

Analogkid was a cool guy, he deserved it

lusty tiger
#

All the top parsing hunters are using thoridal

jagged gust
#

nowadays sure

daring marlin
#

Originally it was dogass.

strong forum
#

back in OG it didnt have the arrow dps

jagged gust
#

back when the 3:2 macro existed it sure wasn't great

strong forum
#

cuz it spawns arrow itself

lusty tiger
#

So it was broken…

strong forum
#

so it did less dmg than normal bow cuz it was just missing a big part of the calculation

daring marlin
#

precisely

lusty tiger
#

Alright

#

That will certainly mess up your damage

jagged gust
#

iirc the best weapon for like 99% of the time was that rifle from karazhan

opaque quest
#

Jup. Wolf even

#

t

lusty tiger
#

So they never fixed thoridal during original TBC

#

I don’t see any patch notes on it- except it being added and it being made β€œunique” lol

proper roost
#

what i've learned is that it literally doesn't matter what was original or not

#

not just in that game but any random nostalgia reboot or whatever

#

People will pick and choose what they want to remember as being good or cool or faithful or even correct

lusty tiger
#

Tru

#

All about the French rotation

jagged gust
#

but lets not forget about en passant

lusty tiger
daring marlin
jagged pier
jagged gust
#

Looks like the old 1:1.5 rotation surv used to have to use

#

but needlessly more complicated

#

and more mana intensive

lusty tiger
#

It is bis!

pallid quiver
#

someone tell me why an update about waycrest doors is important i think i've been in that dungeon once in my life

lusty tiger
#

And it is complicated to cover each haste threshold in order to get the best dps

#

Also kill times are like 2 min in classic lol

pallid quiver
#

They just said an update

#

It's the newest wowhead news about M+ PTR testing starting soon

#

have like the doors been broken or something

#

I have zero idea how that dungeon goes

lusty tiger
#

Iirc the door unlock order was somewhat random?

#

Maybe they are making it more even?

opaque quest
#

There was an order i dont remember

#

When it was top right it was bottom left after

#

And the other way around

#

Probably just all doors open all the time now

#

Cause less rng = more better

restive crown
#

anyone has a suggestion on how to gear alts? made a blood dk alt, did the dreamsurges to get to 402 ilevel

grim pilot
#

Run m+

restive crown
#

do i go straight to m+?

opaque quest
#

Ye skip Mß

#

M0

restive crown
#

what key level shud i go for?

opaque quest
#

My sham was 405 or so this week and is now 435

grim pilot
#

You dhoild be able to tank 11’a without much issue

opaque quest
#

Also do Dawn with a friend

#

Free 441

restive crown
#

damn have nt touched dawn at all 😭

opaque quest
#

Dawn is giga op for alts

jagged gust
#

400 can probably do 11s, definitely 6s or 7s or w/e the cutoff for the second affix is

pallid quiver
#

Yeah, I did Dreamsurge -> Crafted gear -> DoTI

opaque quest
#

Oh yeah

#

Spam +2 for free shadow sparks

warm plinth
#

yeah dawn is insane for alts. Crests for days, you basically get guaranteed half spark from every boss

opaque quest
#

And craft 424

restive crown
#

woa

pallid quiver
#

If you need sparks, hit Heroic DoTI

opaque quest
#

Heroic doti gives sparks?

pallid quiver
#

you'll get sparks forever

#

ye

pallid quiver
#

half a spark per boss if you're like my alts

restive crown
#

ok thanks for the tips! really helpful

warm plinth
#

Yeah, I think they accidentally gave it the same chance for them as m0 lol

jagged gust
#

oh damn I forgot doti has a heroic now

opaque quest
#

Time to hit heroic doti with my rogue lmao

warm plinth
#

Because normal heroics/m+ definitely do not have that kind of drop rate

pallid quiver
#

of course

you need a CRAFTER OF YOUR PROFESSION to craft that gear

#

<---- praying for a leatherworker to exist for shaman gear

warm plinth
#

You're a crafter of your profession

#

BOOM GOTTEM

opaque quest
#

I always put up my orders public

#

WIth 100g commision

#

Cause everytime i put in a real amount someone makes it T3 xd

#

Always start with jewelry on new alts. T3 mats cost like 10g per ring and guarantee 424

jagged gust
#

whenever I see that I try my best to lower my skill as much as possible

pallid quiver
#

i always end with jewelry because i want to get the pain of weapon costs out of the way first

opaque quest
warm plinth
#

not to mention weapon is the single biggest power gain

opaque quest
#

But fresh T3 crafts break my heart so its 100g

jagged gust
warm plinth
#

I tip 20k on all my crafts except crests

opaque quest
#

Ye but 3x424 jewelry gives the biggest ilvl spike over a wep and gets you into grps

warm plinth
#

I do 5k on crests

pallid quiver
#

imagine having money

opaque quest
#

All i see with crests are 1g no mats provided lmao

jagged gust
#

I usually say tip whatever but I gotta charge for the insight, people still usually throw 10k my way its so lovely

opaque quest
#

I remember paying 65k for day 1 lariat

#

Im happy with 10k lol

warm plinth
#

I've seen people get so butthurt by people charging like a 6k fee for guaranteed r5 or something

jagged gust
#

I finally found the hourglass recipe, just gotta hunt down lariat before next season to start sniping the next tier early

warm plinth
#

like they put a lot of work into grinding that shit out and they're very likely using their industrious insight

#

or w/e it's called

opaque quest
#

I dont mind 6k. BUT when i ask in trade chat and 15 ppl text me i pick the cheapest

jagged gust
#

illustrious

warm plinth
#

That's the one

pallid quiver
#

i have zero idea how the crafting system works anymore; my brain discarded that knowledge when I went on hiatus for S2

jagged gust
#

Yeah and the more you craft high tier gear, the rarer it is

opaque quest
#

I got my smith skilled by telling ppl ill do it for free since first craft

#

Then used insight

jagged gust
#

ig they were trying to even out the crafting field so one person or group couldn't hold a permanent grip on the market

opaque quest
#

What i cant stand is ppl asking for 15k for a T5 424 ring tho

pallid quiver
#

I've had that before

#

I just didn't even respond

jagged gust
#

Oh that's literally why I dropped mining for JC just to fuck over those scalpers

warm plinth
#

yeah...r5 424 is like automatic r5 probably at this point lol

pallid quiver
#

i'm too poor for that, man

opaque quest
#

Same. I insta block

#

Oh baby we get 10.2 pathfinder for normal flying

jagged gust
#

DF has spoiled me, I can't even touch normal flying anymore, feels like I'm on a ground mount again

opaque quest
#

Same. Just give me the WOTLK DK starter proto drake as a draonriding mount and im gucci

#

Everywhere ofc

pallid quiver
#

I want them to make some very funny dragonflying mounts

#

give me like a snail that just spits or something mega dumb

blazing condor
#

sorry sure this is a pins but what dg trinkets do we want now with this rotation?

pallid quiver
#

raid trinkets

jagged gust
#

oh man, the maned one, cant remember its name, but you can remove its hair and horns and it looks like a flying sluggy boi

blazing condor
opaque quest
#

Nelth lair final boss is good

#

And splinter?

#

Or vortex final boss

pallid quiver
#

If you mean S3, we'll have to wait and see what they do with some of the older dungeon loots possibly

blazing condor
#

nah mean now

opaque quest
#

I'd use lair and vortex for mad deepz

strong forum
#

"mad deeps"

#

anvil shits on both of those trinkets

opaque quest
#

ofc it does

pallid quiver
#

But if you really can, raid trinks are the best for us

opaque quest
#

But he asked about dng trinkerinos

pallid quiver
#

it's pretty notable, too, last I heard/checked

strong forum
#

i dont get peoples aversion to just puggin raid

opaque quest
#

I just get week 1 curve with a pug then sneak into all the good grps on wednesday morning. Problem solved

pallid quiver
#

I don't like to just randomly pop in to raid groups because sometimes people have their knickers in a bundle and I cba filtering

#

i still do it tho

strong forum
#

like any normal raid trinket is better than any m+ trinket

#

and normal raid is real easy

opaque quest
#

Dargrul is still usable

#

Not better than anvil or beacon but its usable

rustic knot
#

Next patch has atal dazar, I'd assume eye of rezan trinket gonna be good for us cus of haste proc? Or do we just want static haste

jagged gust
#

Dargrul shits on almost all trinkets of equal ilvl

blazing condor
#

man guess im gonna have to slave through the raid deadge

strong forum
#

rezan is good

#

but not good good

blazing condor
#

eye of rezan used to be good back in the day at least

opaque quest
strong forum
#

^

blazing condor
#

oh its on the first three

#

that makes it way more doable

#

thanks friends

opaque quest
#

❀️

blazing condor
#

even if i dont play i at least usually follow whats happening and going on but now i literally haven't looked at anything for the past 6 months or so

#

so sorry for many questions

opaque quest
#

This discord is made for questions isnt it

#

We just misuse it for off topic all the time

blazing condor
waxen frigate
#

I want to eat some canned fish

blazing condor
#

go get fermented herring

waxen frigate
#

Go get some bitches how bout that

#

Don’t tell me how to live my life

#

(I’m sorry I love you)

jagged gust
#

pickled herring do kinda slap tho

lusty tiger
#

nish lookin for some fish smelling p

lusty grotto
#

chipadin is finally done with heroic

waxen frigate
strong forum
#

surstrΓΆmming

lusty grotto
#

after week 2

#

chipadin finally got anvil

#

on vault

south zealot
#

nomer its push week

waxen frigate
#

The anvil hardens

south zealot
#

r u going for 4k

lusty tiger
strong forum
#

whatchu pushin bud

south zealot
waxen frigate
#

GET PUSHED OUT OF THE GUILD YOU STUPID FUCK

dusky canopy
#

I can never remember that dudes name

waxen frigate
#

Gromnak?

opaque quest
#

Need push week to do 18s instead of weekly 16s

dusky canopy
#

But his content is hilarious

pallid quiver
#

I can never remember anything about this until it gets mentioned

dusky canopy
#

Literally same

#

LOL

lusty grotto
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deadge chips vault again

waxen frigate
opaque quest
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I didnt do anything on warr

waxen frigate
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This is my favorite Gromnak sound bite

dusky canopy
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Uh oh did you get ion’d again nim?

opaque quest
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But my sham has 6 choices with full HC clear and 3x447

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Cant wait to get 6x shit on my 435 that needs EVERYTHING

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
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I need to find time to pug raid sometime this week

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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i still dont have a 447 chest

opaque quest
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My last 3 vaults were 447 helmet beacon and essence

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I got lucky

lusty grotto
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full sockets too so fuck me

opaque quest
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To bad its only 1 char

lusty grotto
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guess im going for 3k gold

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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No

lusty tiger
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whats his name i 4got

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my buddy wants to see the clip ^~^

opaque quest
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What changed btw? Why the fuck do we have 8 hour downtime

lusty tiger
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joe fell on the server box

opaque quest
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Oh no not joe

lusty tiger
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yea i feel bad for joe- it's lookin real bad

opaque quest
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Lets hope joe gets better soon. Dont want anything permanent to happen to joe

jagged gust
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JOE MAMA

opaque quest
lusty tiger
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F

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to pay respects to joe

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
lusty tiger
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this is some og internet content

jagged gust
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Dude I was transported back into the days of 56k modems for a moment

opaque quest
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Yogi was old when god was young

lusty tiger
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yogi helped write the bible torah and quaran

opaque quest
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They are written about him

strong forum
sick sentinel
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TAKE A BREAK RICHARD? IT'S BEEN FIVE MINUTES

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that's my all time favorite wow melt down, far greater than any asmon rant

dusky ravine
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anyone know prot warr main youtubers/streamers? i dont usually watch streams but i want to watch someone else play prot warr so i can get the craving to main this class again.

jagged gust
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sense for high key vods

strong forum
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sense - nurfed on youtube

dusky ravine
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nice. thanks

sick sentinel
strong forum
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we love virtue signaling

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we absolute love putting current real world politics and values into games

jagged gust
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It's my favorite way to farm reddit karma

sick sentinel
waxen frigate
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I know they

sick sentinel
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i dont use alot of social media

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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We love chicken wings

lusty tiger
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^

sick sentinel
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im all for peace

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but its world of WAR craft after all

strong forum
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wow was never as brutal as depicted there

plush tendon
strong forum
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it was always very cartoonish

plush tendon
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orcs should be brown unless corrupted by the fel

sick sentinel
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warcraft 2 was the best warcraft of all

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im just gunna say it

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warcraft 1 was EXTREMELY primitive

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but a pioneer so

jagged gust
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WoD actually had one of the most brutal quests I can ever recall, and it was just some dude in an ogron cave begging for us to kill him because they were slowly eating him alive

solemn current
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447 Crit/Haste main hand actually worth it in keys over 441 Forgestorm? I figure Forgestorm is definitely better for lower damage players, but would the 447 actually be worth it over the 441 if the proc is doing 2.7% of damage overall despite a 132K overall in the FH I just did? Got a spark I can either use on that or a crit/haste cloak.

strong forum
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447 better

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2.7% is below what forgestorm needs to do

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to be a dmg gain

solemn current
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About how much you feel like it needs to do to be worth the str and wep damage loss? Clearly better in raid but I'm thinking about lower target count dungeons where I'm doing closer to 100-110K

strong forum
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its not even "clearly" better in raid

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cuz forgestorm is rppm

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so its random

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it can do 1% of your dmg or 9% dmg on a boss

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it needs to do over 3% to be a gain

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the consistency of a weapon with str over forgestorm is more beneficial in m+

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outside of maybe dungeons like VP and NL where pulls are tiny

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or Neltharus where the only dmg that matters is boss dmg rly

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its not of huge importance to have a 447 with str or 441-447 forgestorm

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but i got pissed when forgestorm was always below 3% of my dmg in m+

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and after all these buffs we've received, forgestorm value has been going down cuz stats got obv better and better

south zealot
solemn current
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Fair. Well at least it'll boost my ilvl and all. If it's going to give me more dam I ain't against grabbing it lol. Was only considering the cloak because it's an increase for arms not much a difference for prot. Appreciate you.

waxen frigate
strong forum
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hate rppm

waxen frigate
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I think I progged forgotten experiments and rashok with it

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And it was infuriating

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Seeing the variance

strong forum
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πŸ™‚

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on my best parses forgestorm did like 1% dmg

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and then randomly on rashok boom 9%

modern gazelle
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how do you skip this pack