protection

[opaque quest]

I mean doesnt he have to say yes this is a good reward

But hes probably the guy that says 14 recolors of the dawn set is fine soooo

[strong forum]

no

he designes what items do

not how they look like

[opaque quest]

Welp

[lusty tiger]

fasion designer

[opaque quest]

gj to him making 14 different very rare trinkets then /s

[strong forum]

also rewards team does design the tiersets but not their final numbers

thats why any numbers current sets do are placeholder AF

[lusty tiger]

can we just have 1 very jaded person design everything soup->nuts for each spec

[strong forum]

i dont think thats gonna fly

[opaque quest]

Maybe just have a DK design dk stuff

[lusty tiger]

LOL

[opaque quest]

And a warr warr stuff

[lusty tiger]

ik but id be curious to see what turns out

[opaque quest]

Sure tastes still differ but right now sets are damn ugly

[lusty tiger]

like if i wanted to maximize for "fun" i would do that and tell them to all make the most op shit they can think of

[strong forum]

and what do they do after that?

[opaque quest]

Just give every class devoker fire breath in pvp that oneshots

[opaque quest]

Make it a brawl for pve/pvp

To see the mayhem without further consequences

[strong forum]

fuck it

lets overbuff items each season

then once the new season comes

nerf the old ones into the floor

thats surely fun

[opaque quest]

Dungeons are so fucked we need broken items

Power creep ruined destiny. Lets have it ruin wow too

[strong forum]

thats why we get resets each xpac

to reel in the powercreep

like stat squishes, lvl squishes

etc

[lusty tiger]

it would be each spec designer against one another trying to make their specs as op as possible (with some rules ofc)

[strong forum]

itll happen every 2 xpacs at this pace

[jagged pier]

Might be an old mind set but i have no issue with leggos being useful for like a tier the expansion after tbh

[opaque quest]

I kinda want a nother lvl squish rn. Numbers are getting pretty big

Doing 10k dps in highmaul felt good

[strong forum]

11.0 does 100% bring a stat squish

[jagged pier]

Numbers arent even close to big

[strong forum]

not a single doubt in my mind

[opaque quest]

I played SoO heroic i know numbers can get bigger but why let it come to that point

[jagged pier]

Mop was millions and they had to sesign a boss to do 2 full hp resets because 32 but

At least we in 64 bit now

[lusty tiger]

squish mainstat, keep secondary stats... i dont like low haste in every season 1

[opaque quest]

I remember 1.5 mil stormbolts trust me

But i dont want that again

So squish earlier rather than later

[jagged pier]

Bring back 10 man

[lusty tiger]

yeeeees

[strong forum]

we already had over 30% haste in s1 this xpac?

[opaque quest]

Oh god yes

[lusty tiger]

not enough

i want MORE

[strong forum]

you should never be a game designer

[opaque quest]

My sham has 108% haste 50% of the fight. Its fine

[lusty tiger]

agreed

[sick sentinel]

#raidingistoohardperiod

[strong forum]

if 11.0 doesnt bring a squish of any form

then we'll start with having DPS doing close to 1mil dps in raid

[lusty tiger]

im kinda just trolling- i realize those things are unrealistic, but sometimes going too far the other way sucks

[strong forum]

in the first raid

[opaque quest]

I wouldnt even mind them going way overboard with the squish

[strong forum]

by the end of the xpac then dps will do north of 5million single target

if they dont do a squish

[jagged pier]

The problem with the squish what do u do wih old items

Loke most expansions now match in lvl

[opaque quest]

Who cares about old items

[lusty tiger]

buff their ilvl

[opaque quest]

Youre lvl70 in 2 days

[lusty tiger]

they did it w crafted gear s1->s2

[strong forum]

old items just get squished

just like they did from bfa to sl

lvl zones can stay the same

i hope we only get to lvl 75 tho next xpac

[opaque quest]

Blizz is a 100 bilion dollar company im sure they can figure something out

[strong forum]

ofc

the solution is squish

thats inevitable

every 2 xpacs

and lvl squish every 4 or smth

maybe more

[opaque quest]

How does FFXIV handle stats? I played it for some time but only did extremes and ultimates and didnt care about anything else

[strong forum]

fuck if i know

[lusty tiger]

@ nim

[chilly brook]

Iirc it’s just very incremental

[strong forum]

their gear isnt nearly as important as ours

afaik

[opaque quest]

No trinkets

[strong forum]

and the raids are tuned around them being bis geared

they also dont have customisability of their class as much as we do

so balancing is alot simpler

[opaque quest]

Also gearing is easier

You can grind a boss until you get loot from it

[strong forum]

sadly combat sucks

[opaque quest]

Big time

Thats why im back

[lusty tiger]

why do people play it then

[opaque quest]

Cause cOmMuNiTy

Story is good

[lusty tiger]

kekw

[strong forum]

that game offers alot more than just raiding

[opaque quest]

Aye

In wow raiding and M+ are like 80% of the game

In FFXIV raiding is more like 10%

90% of the game is dressing like a hoe and dancing in limsa

[lusty tiger]

more mmo than rpg

[strong forum]

its both

[opaque quest]

Ye

[strong forum]

more mmo and more rpg

wow is just a themepark

[opaque quest]

Its also way more single player if you want it to be

[strong forum]

wow you cant play alone, literally cant

[lusty tiger]

well traditional rpg = i make class end level end gear and become god

[strong forum]

unless you want to ignore endgame

[opaque quest]

Apart from the ultimates and savage raids you can do that

Also FFXIV has no real endgame compared to wow. M+ scales endlessly

FFXIV only has normal dungeons

Sooo. Get gear and you feel like a god

[lusty grotto]

what up

oh stats? there was a squish for endwalker

[lusty tiger]

we curious about ff item scaling

[strong forum]

ffxiv has more replayability because you can play old raids "like back in the day, just with current class balance"

[opaque quest]

Yeah sync or non synced

You either do it with 3 man or you play every mechanic

[chilly brook]

I don’t really think the combat of FFXIV sucks

[opaque quest]

Its boring

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt

[opaque quest]

You have a set rotation and nothing else

[chilly brook]

I think it’s actually pretty good, assuming you’re not talking about the 1-60 experience

That portion is bleh

[lusty grotto]

ogcd weaving is decently entertaining

[opaque quest]

DPS got a 1-5 tanks got a 1-3

[strong forum]

from my limited 35hrs experience its incredibly stale and single minded

[chilly brook]

But it’s certainly different than WoW

[lusty grotto]

early game its absolute trash ngl nome

[opaque quest]

You just need to learn your rotation and youre done

[chilly brook]

I don’t think having a “set rotation” is bad

[strong forum]

and theres no such thing as active mitigation

[opaque quest]

No way to improve

[lusty grotto]

there is active mit

[strong forum]

yeah for 4 seconds on a 30sec CD

big fun

[chilly brook]

That’s not true at all

[lusty grotto]

no

all tanks have active mit

[opaque quest]

How do you improve pressing 5 buttons in order for 10 mins straight

[chilly brook]

Instead of getting better at pressing your buttons in a randomish sequence

[opaque quest]

Knight has darkest night once every 45 sec or so xd

[lusty grotto]

at least endgame, for the active mit thing

[chilly brook]

You’re getting better at getting a few more casts in through a fight with complex mechanics

[opaque quest]

If you cant count to 5 maybe gaming isnt for you^^

[strong forum]

i also dislike the fact that the only shield class is paladin

why paladin

i dont wanna play paladin

[opaque quest]

Cause gladiator

[chilly brook]

Yet again someone making weird arguments I’m not making….

[lusty grotto]

i kind of agree with that one

but i also dont hate WAR being a 2hander job

[opaque quest]

We are talking about class here not encounter design dude

[strong forum]

isnt war just a 1 button spec in ffxiv

[jagged pier]

The warrior isnt too bad i enjoy S1 of Sls when the tmog big was in

[opaque quest]

Classes are ALL the same. If you know one you know all

[opaque quest]

3 buttons

[chilly brook]

Tldr FFXIV combat is about executing the fight well and your class should be something less….active in terms of dedicating brainpower.

WoW is a mixture of both

[lusty grotto]

actually there's a lot of brainpower involved

[chilly brook]

That’s not even remotely true though

[lusty grotto]

its just that they are talking about selective jobs

[chilly brook]

Go play black mage well in difficult content lmfao

[opaque quest]

Oh nice. Ley lines are super hard

[chilly brook]

Spoiler alert you won’t be able to unless you actually know the fights

[opaque quest]

Watch video. Check where he uses ley lines. Replicate

Very hard

[lusty grotto]

absolutely untrue but it is what it is

https://www.fflogs.com/character/id/17374711#zone=44

ive been doing ver badly

[chilly brook]

I don’t think either game is outright better than the other

They’re both very different

[lusty grotto]

https://www.fflogs.com/character/id/17374711#zone=49

[opaque quest]

Agree on that

[lusty grotto]

im always behind on parses cause my static is super casual so im behind on weapon upgrades

[chilly brook]

Also doesn’t one of the classes have this massive ass flow chart based on RNG?

So they’re really not all the same

[lusty grotto]

and because there's no ilvl parsing like wow does my numbers will always be horrible

hmmm

all classes literally parse based on RNG

a good BLM parse is the one where you crit meld and have almost all your hits be crits or direct hits

[chilly brook]

Hold on I’m going to find the flow chart

[lusty grotto]

and also mechs dont fuck your positioning (which happens most of the time anyway)

[opaque quest]

Its still the same. All Tanks got the same CDs. All melee got positionals and so on

[lusty grotto]

but yeah WAR gameplay is simple

[opaque quest]

All dps got their 1-5 rota

[lusty grotto]

DRK and GNB gameplay arent

and PLD gameplay is kind of in-between

but no

tanks do not have the same CDs

they all have active mit, but its not the same

[opaque quest]

True. They all have 1 CD the other tanks dont

1

[chilly brook]

Ah yes Astralogian

[opaque quest]

DK has darkest night thats it

[lusty grotto]

dps cds? they are different

[chilly brook]

Several different openers based on rng

[opaque quest]

Astro is a healer. It doesnt matter and you cant farm your rota

[chilly brook]

Wut

[lusty grotto]

AST mains are gods

[opaque quest]

Or am i stupid rn

[chilly brook]

Healer rotations absolutely matter in FFXiV

[opaque quest]

Wasnt astro the support heal with cards?

[chilly brook]

You acting like healers aren’t having to do damage and are expected to do so even

[opaque quest]

You acting like 99% of healers in FFXIV arent heal bots

Ive done ultimates with healers being bots

You dont NEED heals to do dps

Sure they can

But its not needed

[chilly brook]

Most of the healers I run into aren’t heal bots

[opaque quest]

And ofc they should

[chilly brook]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lusty grotto]

i think the biggest challenge for people is ABC in savage/ults

well for everyone but mostly casters

either way that's something any wow player should already be doing, but its not as required

in wow

it is for ffxiv

and with dances, positioning, mechs involved it becomes overwhelming extremely fast

ABC as in always be casting

[opaque quest]

FFXIV has dope telegraphs. At some point the brain just reacts through muscle memory

Missing that in WoW still

Might make DBM obsolete

[chilly brook]

I think the best way to describe it is:
FFXIV is the guy who only does the basics but does them at an insanely high level

WoW is the dude who did the basics until he got it and then started doing some advanced stuff but isn’t quite a master because of it

[chilly brook]

Biggest complaint I have about WoW tbh

[lusty grotto]

both games are so different, but i really enjoy raiding in both separately, even though i dislike pugging (in WoW) and PFing in ffxiv

[opaque quest]

Same. Just hearing the telegraph sounds clicks in my brain

[chilly brook]

If you like dungeon content WoW hands down is better unfortunately

I think FFXIV could really benefit from more dungeon content

[opaque quest]

Yea FFXIV has no endgame apart from savage

[lusty grotto]

yeah there's no replacement for M+

[opaque quest]

Ultimates just transmogg

[lusty grotto]

no

weapon is still the best

[opaque quest]

Also only like what? 4 Bosses per patch cycle?

Ye when a NEW ultimate comes out every 18 years

[chilly brook]

Ultimates are legit BiS weapons

[opaque quest]

But then: relic

[lusty grotto]

yeah this tier, we didnt get a 3rd ultimate so relic will happen

[opaque quest]

What was the last Ultimate before the heavensward dude

[lusty grotto]

Alexander

TEA

[opaque quest]

Thats also a good thing about FFXIV tho. There is a point where you can just stop and wont miss out

[chilly brook]

I need to continue playing it tbh

Still haven’t capped

Too much to do while leveling to distract

[opaque quest]

Did you do post ARR yet?

[chilly brook]

Yeah

[lusty grotto]

yeah its a good thing that you can pick it up anywhere

[opaque quest]

Hardest part done

[chilly brook]

I’m starting shadowbringers or w/e

I’m weird, I enjoyed ARR

[opaque quest]

ARR was ok

Post ARR wasnt

[chilly brook]

Nah I legit enjoyed it all

[daring marlin]

Not weird. Everything gets referenced eventually.

[chilly brook]

Payoff was worth every second

[daring marlin]

game gud

[lusty grotto]

heh wait till you do Shadowbringers and Endwalker

[chilly brook]

The problem though is post ARR content outside of story feels useless

[lusty grotto]

yes

its optional

[chilly brook]

Because you’re barely advancing your character at all

[opaque quest]

Is it a spoiler if we talk about the blue bird?

Probably right

[lusty grotto]

yes super spoiler

[opaque quest]

Griff how far are you rn?

[daring marlin]

enjoy having your heart torn out a couple dozen times

[chilly brook]

Literally just finished stormblood

[daring marlin]

B R O T H E R

[opaque quest]

Oh sweet

Stormblood was a slog too without flying

Make sure you grab the flying sheet

With the compass

[chilly brook]

It was worse than heavansward for sure but holy shit do they know how to make compelling villains

[opaque quest]

I dont remember the villain from SB

Gryphon?

[chilly brook]

Nah

[lusty grotto]

Zeno

[opaque quest]

I dont wanna spoiler you so i cant say shit

Oh fuck yeah zenos is dope asf

A TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES

[hardy snow]

it would be interesting if dot from this weapon (waycrest manor) would count toward new 2p, but I guess too op, so no fun allowed

[opaque quest]

No stats :/

[chilly brook]

Wasn’t optional afaik

At least according to the wiki thing that I was given

[lusty grotto]

which thing

[opaque quest]

Nim probably means the raid and stuff

Theres lots of post ARR

[lusty grotto]

OH

[chilly brook]

All the post ARR quests you had to do to get to Heavansward lol

[lusty grotto]

yeah those are good to do just for the mini stories

if you mean the raid stories griff

but

yeah there's a lot of garbage post ARR like rooach says

like the refugees thing in mor dhona

the good news is that post expansions get better after that

[opaque quest]

Oh yeah

If Heavensward is a 10/10 Shadowbringers and Endwalker are 13/10

[grand veldt]

I think it would but idk if it re applies enough to matter

I'm much more curious how leech will work with this, i think it could be a significant survival bonus

[opaque quest]

Im sure the stats you need to give up on the axe counteract any dmg or surv bonus you could get otherwise

[pallid quiver]

oh my god the ARR filler back when i had to do it was fucking terrible

I'm so sad I looked in her and had to be reminded of that

shit was godawful

[lusty grotto]

rememebr you had to build mor dhona

[pallid quiver]

no fuck you i remember shit

[lusty grotto]

if you played it at the time

LOL

[pallid quiver]

None of that had any reason to exist

[opaque quest]

It wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt followed by a masterpiece of an expansion

[daring marlin]

I did. It owned.

Loved ARR when it was current.

[lusty grotto]

yeah i did too

but

[opaque quest]

I only started with prepatch shadowbringers

[lusty grotto]

i took a break after HW

[opaque quest]

Looks like i dodged a bullet

[lusty grotto]

and came back for ShB

i skipped stormblood (because break)

[daring marlin]

I think stormblood was one of the only times I took a break too.

[austere lava]

is cloak any good for prot?

[opaque quest]

Sark? No

[austere lava]

and by that i mean VoSS

[lusty grotto]

so kinda started from Stormblood to ShB to get back up to date

[austere lava]

to dps focused?

[lusty grotto]

its only for raid parsing if anything

the proc rate is really bad

absolutely bad for keys

like 500%

[austere lava]

gotcha

[lusty tiger]

@lusty grotto can i ask u something about git and virtual environments

[lusty grotto]

sure

[lusty tiger]

ya know how when you have a virtual environment your console looks like this within your ide

with the (venv)

[lusty grotto]

yes?

[lusty tiger]

do i need to CD to somewhere else in order to git push without my venv included in the push*?

[lusty grotto]

uhh

so like venv is a virtual machine

it depends if you have a way to access its storage

then you can do it from the host

[lusty tiger]

yea

[lusty grotto]

what are you trying to push? code?

[lusty tiger]

when i 'ls' it still gives me the contents of the root though

[lusty tiger]

yes

[lusty grotto]

do you mean the host root?

[lusty tiger]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

ok so

[lusty tiger]

this is the outside

dont worry about "projects" lol

[lusty grotto]

well in theory you can

just CLI/terminal/cmd/powershell there

you just need git installed on the host

[lusty tiger]

oh tru

[lusty grotto]

if you have access to the .git file, you should be good

and .gitignores etc

[lusty tiger]

i should just not push through my ide

[lusty grotto]

well pushing through IDEs is fine

but if you wanna learn a bit more, then yea

im fucking lazy and just push through intellij or vscode

or whatever git client i have lmao

like sourcetree or kraken

[chilly brook]

You still kinda had to do something about building it iirc when I went through it

[lusty grotto]

or sublime merge

[lusty tiger]

i always git add .->git commit -m ""->git push in the terminal

[chilly brook]

That was like Shadowbringers when I started playing I think

[lusty grotto]

ah, didnt know

thought it kinda fast forwarded

[chilly brook]

Idk you had to do stuff with refugees and shit

[lusty grotto]

oh wait the uhh... place in doma

i had to do that

[chilly brook]

It’s been a while

[lusty grotto]

fuck i forget the name

[opaque quest]

I know what you mean

With the samurai

Something something front

[lusty grotto]

doman enclave?

i think

[opaque quest]

Yea

[blazing condor]

Doma nuts fit in ur mouth

[lusty grotto]

😱

[opaque quest]

Bojzan soutern front

[lusty grotto]

oh yea bozja

[opaque quest]

Im still on the bozja relic grind for my GNB

But i cant be arsed

[lusty grotto]

ugh

im kinda glad this expansion's relic is super easy

[opaque quest]

I played the intro quest

With Hildi

Couldnt finish it

[lusty grotto]

[opaque quest]

I cringed to death

https://tenor.com/view/manderville-godbert-gif-14333099

[lusty grotto]

i enjoy it because its so bad

def not for everyone

[daring marlin]

I made a few of them including the WAR one

[lusty grotto]

i swear ive tried to stop myself from laughing

[daring marlin]

Despite the fact the orange was ugly af

SAM one is clean tho

[opaque quest]

Im on the last one time grind step

Friend finished 2 days earlier than me and it broke me. Not gonna grind that shit solo

[lusty grotto]

i cant remember the ones i finished, i know i finished BLM/WAR/WHM for sure

but yeah its a dumb grind

but still not as bad as ARR's

that one is fucking ass

[dusky canopy]

Dayum those FF character models tho

[opaque quest]

Mommy yshtola "fan art"

I love how all the fan art memes just crop her tits then call it finished

lmao

[dusky canopy]

You know guils a fan

[dusky canopy]

[lusty tiger]

ty nim i needed a quick outside perspective lol

[modern gazelle]

dude i cant time a key this week

its like peopel decided swirlies on ground means stand int it

[lusty grotto]

btw take docker courses as soon as you can

if you havent done so

VMs are good but containers are kinda dominating too

and kubernetes etc

[lusty tiger]

im working on a docker project rn

[lusty grotto]

nice

[lusty tiger]

after years i got IT to get me a server space

and am migrating my django project w a sqlite server to be on docker with mysql

[sudden tangle]

What do the 10.2 set bonuses mean for us and our gameplay

If someone wouldn't mind explaining to a simpleton

[lusty grotto]

that's great, migrating from VM to containers is a huge learning experience

[opaque quest]

Nothing. More TC and way more deepz

Spend rage on IP. Get procc

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gLkO88HR9s make em bleed is what it means

[lusty tiger]

yea so far it is going pretty smooth, just wanted to get all this shit professionally sorted too lol

so i can actually utilize the convenience of git and docker lol

[sudden tangle]

Docker ftw

Also learning atm

[lusty grotto]

both are excellent, but can be a pain in the ass when you touch some edge cases

like everything

[jaunty jacinth]

What embelishments are we using on prot? didn't find anything on FAQ.

[lusty grotto]

2x shadowflame or 1x shadowflame + unstable frostfire

either is fine

if you had a UFFB from s1, then go the 2nd route, otherwise go for the first one

[jaunty jacinth]

FF it is then, gotta craft one since it's my alt.

thanks.

Do we put any enchants on our shields? is it even possible? 😄

[lusty grotto]

nope

[jaunty jacinth]

Can someone explain the differenec between dodge and block?

[lusty grotto]

dodge you completely avoid damage, warriors dont do that

we parry, which is similar

[jaunty jacinth]

any damage?

[lusty grotto]

physical

melee hits

block you dont really avoid the damage, you take a little bit depending on K values

[jaunty jacinth]

So doesn't work on magical hits or bleed effects?

[lusty grotto]

dodge and parry? no

[jaunty jacinth]

Ah so dodge and parry are in the same category right?

[lusty grotto]

block does not apply to bleed effects either

spell block makes our shield block block magical nukes

and a very select number of dot ticks

the number is extremely small

magma's dots and sarkareth void slash are kind the only notable dot ticks you can spell block

as a warrior

[sick sentinel]

the good thing about spell block is you can stop 100% of the attack if the calculation is big enough

[jaunty jacinth]

By block i meant the block stats.

[sick sentinel]

i forget the exact numbers but block stops after reducing like 85% dmg

[jaunty jacinth]

Block chance.

[lusty grotto]

so block is affected by the block value of your shield

block chance doesn't matter

because if you have Shield Block up, you have 100% chance to block

so the only important stat is block value, which you can get by having the highest ilvl shield you can find

and the talent shield spec

so really the only way block value goes up is by having a big fat shield

[jaunty jacinth]

So block stat only works on melee hits?

not physical or magical hits? I main bdk so this is kinda new to me.

[lusty grotto]

for the most part, and while spell block is enabled on magical attacks

[sick sentinel]

it works on spells if you have spell block talented and active

spells that could be blocked anyways

[jaunty jacinth]

oh

got it

[lusty grotto]

all melee attacks can be blocked, parried, and dodged (but we dont do this last one)

but if you want a list of other attacks that arent in that category

[sick sentinel]

i think that spell block requires you to have shield block up so you get 100% chance to block and its not RNG if you blocked the spell or not

[lusty grotto]

there's a pinned excel sheet with that info

as well as reflectable spells etc

correct spell block requires you to have shield block up to properly function

[sick sentinel]

so, for instance, say the boss has an ability that coats their weapon in magic and strikes at all players infront of them in a cone, or it puts a swirl on the ground, you cant spell block those

[jaunty jacinth]

Is Spell block used in m+ content?

[lusty grotto]

yes you can read where in the faq

[jaunty jacinth]

alright, thanks guys

Also, i remember prot was pretty good on s1. What made the demand go so low in s2? Can't recall any nerfs or anything

[lusty grotto]

prot pal replaced us cause it had utility in higher keys

[jaunty jacinth]

Weren't utilities the same as in s1?

[lusty grotto]

then druids got reworked, and while VDH was creeping up as well due to their damage, any utility trumps all

[jaunty jacinth]

or was it the content rotation change?

[lusty grotto]

prot pal got reworked

then druid got reworked

thats the gist of it

they got tanky and have utility so

[pallid quiver]

Also, even in S1, Paladin still had utility over us

like before the rework i mean

[lusty grotto]

yes that's what i meant

[pallid quiver]

so basically, the reason the populace at large swapped is because some big streamer or other said so

A large majority of the player base do not do the thinky

[lusty grotto]

yes that's the way meta goes

[jaunty jacinth]

Agreed.

[pallid quiver]

So it's not even that Prot War was bad/became bad, they just got viewed as bad

[lusty grotto]

always

[pallid quiver]

also damn, doing the timewalking stuff just for the free gear casually for catchup,

people have their knickers in a hell of a knot

I haven't had a group of decent people at all today

[dry tide]

so how many bleeds do prot warrior have in total

[pallid quiver]

Rend, Deep Wounds, T Roar are the main three that will pop up

[dry tide]

thats what i thought

[jaunty jacinth]

Yea think there's a hidden affix on this week. Runs are a mess.

[dry tide]

how are we thinking the new set bonus is gonna be ?

[pallid quiver]

shrug

Depends on what they do to it from now until launch

They could make it proc every time we spend rage, could make it proc once an M+ run

The idea's fine

[dry tide]

the damage sounds good but thats about it

[pallid quiver]

It's also like 15% DR on a prio target

[dry tide]

2% per bleed consumed

[pallid quiver]

10% from 2P

[dry tide]

thats only like 6%

[pallid quiver]

So it's anywhere from 12%-16%

realistically 14%

[dry tide]

how though

[pallid quiver]

2P gives 10%

[dry tide]

the math aint mathin

[pallid quiver]

and then 4p gives more for the bleeds

[dry tide]

2P?

[pallid quiver]

2 piece

[dry tide]

ahh i see

you right

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

its 14-16% DR from it according to Nome

solely from it

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, deep wound+ rend will al;ways be up

[sick sentinel]

should be 1/6th up time

5 second proc at 2 ppm

[mighty valley]

i thought people on ptr were saying it procs like, every ~40 rage you spend

[pallid quiver]

Nome said like 10-12 ppm earlier i thought

either way, liable to change

Are bears still meta right now?

i';m seein' a lotta bears

[lusty grotto]

yeah they are still meta

in live

[pallid quiver]

Explains why I'm seeing a lot of levelling bears who aren''t pressing their buttons

[lusty grotto]

until the keys testing comes through, and classes potentially shifted around (around motw)

who knows what will happen honestly

[pallid quiver]

make it so that every time we proc our tier set, we also proc execute

do it cowards

they won't

[sick sentinel]

Is there a comprehensive M+ guide for Prot Warr out on the Internet? Rebooting my guy from S1 to push a few portals.

[lavish sphinx]

QuazliWoW on YouTube. Otherwise wowhead or icyveins

[sick sentinel]

BF5 isa fun when there isn't hackers

so far

i thought i had heard some of the new call of duties were cursed or general bad brown shooter

[cinder nova]

Bro why the hell do we have sleeves on our tier

[sick sentinel]

would you guys use sandlgass or scale in keys

[dusky mica]

The sleeves look like a bug.

[sudden sable]

Hourglass seems like a good pwar trinket. Scale seems bad. Warriors usually don't die quickly. It won't heal much. Will prob depend on the dungeons-- if there's big magical tank nukes that can't be blocked reflected or kicked, or a huge bleed it might have value.

[violet ginkgo]

I heard that warrior doesn't die quickly because of the good mitigation but has to be healed since not much self heal

[urban bane]

it is simple. if we can block the damage we good. if we cant it can get spooky

[urban portal]

Usually it’s just a maintenance HOT

+something here and there

[jagged gust]

Only times I take big boy damage is when I play badly and take 5 backshots or miss a defensive

Also hourglass sims pretty well for us but the long ass CD is annoying, though seeing my haste hit 120% with lust is pretty neat. I'd rather just have an anvil or something passive... Not that im confident I can keep anvil up most of the time but in a perfect world

[jagged gust]

jfc, I lost 35% of my rage gen from shield charges, only 5% from the bashes but damn

I think every single one of those intersects with Last Stand

[low timber]

I was gonna go back to blood dk cause the war tier (cosmetically) looked ass, but the wowhead up close shit and no weird sleeves has me second guessing myself. I kinda like it now

[cerulean tusk]

They always come crawling back

[low timber]

im a slave to trying to look cool

[obtuse viper]

Hello prot friends..I was planning on tanking m+ to get my last 200 points for 2500. Would you guys say I "have" to get a pathing addon like method dungeon tools or will I be able to tankit by just remembering the routes from dpsing? 🤔. I like to minimize addon usage but if you prot mains think it's a requirement I don't see a reason to gimp myself

[cerulean tusk]

MDT could be nice to check your pathing before you go % wise. Rest you can yolo

[charred ivy]

i always yolo xD just some spots need remember how much i want before i pass a certain spot

[jagged gust]

Most pulls are pretty intuitive. mdt is more distracting than anything, I used to think I'd have to have it open every other pull but stopped after like 3 dungeons. Just keep moving, if you're just doing pug pulls its hard to miss % anyways.

[jagged pier]

For that rating u can press w

[jagged gust]

FH being the big exception

[obtuse viper]

I also feel like why download mdt when the lowest DPS is always gonna let me know we missed % as soon as it happens anyways

[charred ivy]

u see np u have reminder xD atleast he do something good then 😉

[obtuse viper]

Well as far as I know it's basically the exact same route from BFA with either pulling more around the ring or grabbing that extra pack right before boss?

[shy python]

https://www.buffed.de/World-of-Warcraft-Spiel-42971/News/wow-dragonflight-patch-102-weakauren-addons-overlay-1428440/

Does this mean the Spell Reflect WA that tells me when to reflect won't work soon?

(Didn't find the news in english)

[obtuse viper]

I hope they just mean like full screen overlays people were using to put like markers and what to do in the arena on your screen for you at all times not CD tracker stuff

[shy python]

Hope that too... I love this reflect thing.. makes me feel like a god

[tall tusk]

%

[obtuse viper]

I'll stream my runs and the chat can pay 20 bucks to blast an air horn to let me know I missed %

[charred ivy]

what wa do u use?

[jagged gust]

yep, just meant it as the exception to having an extremely straightforward route where missing % is basically impossible

Realistically just learn how to do the first big pull of a dungeon and it'll make up for any inefficiencies in your routing

[violet ginkgo]

Speaking of which uh I can ask suggestion for the item to use here right? Like what to choose

[sweet summit]

of course

[jagged pier]

Erga been back a day doing yellow stuff already

[violet ginkgo]

great, do we have something like uh armory so ppl can see and advice stuffs? Also any dreambound gear is good?

[sweet summit]

best bet is prob to link a recent top gear sim i think

and i have no idea what dreambound gear is so ask jakey about that

[jagged pier]

its catch up gear that i think caps at 415

so no its not that great

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

erga ur pfp is sad turn that frown upside down

[violet ginkgo]

for me it's great since you know... I just do raid finder once this week as last week I just fresh got into 70

[jagged pier]

well then its okay

[sweet summit]

very sad

[violet ginkgo]

ok then I might buy some gear

[sweet summit]

crying even

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

[jagged pier]

just watch some classic hardcore deaths to cheer u up because its always someone being stupid

best thing are ppl literally malding when they die at like lvl 15

bro

[blazing condor]

yeah lol

[jagged pier]

it takes like an hour to get there

[blazing condor]

maybe its their 20th char tht didnt make it past 20

at one point u start malding

[jagged pier]

there are a lot of ppl that cant get past that

and literally die doing the same mistakes

eveyrtime

like going into caves

[blazing condor]

just like retail

[jagged pier]

when the mobs are still yellow

[sweet summit]

LMAO thanks jakey

[blazing condor]

pfp still sad

it didnt work

[jagged pier]

[violet ginkgo]

Question to jakey if you are willing to help me

[jagged pier]

shoot

[violet ginkgo]

So I use this
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-gear-best-in-slot?area=area_3

as a baseline on what I should work on, of course maybe still in raid finder version since real raid might be a bit far for me with 10.2 also coming soon.

Now the question is I saw all that gear is from raid right, and some gear got versa status, what if there is a dreambound gear or catch up gear that got haste and crit, instead of haste versa? just take the dreambound gear?

[blazing condor]

here u go

[jagged pier]

your focusing too much on stats

stats mean very little compared to ilvl

even then if the pieces are the same ilvl u take the one with more haste

crit and vers are equal anyway so u can choose which one u want to go for in the long run

[violet ginkgo]

hmmm ok so no need to do minmax stat

at least not yet

[sweet summit]

my sleep paralysis demon..

[blazing condor]

looks smug

[violet ginkgo]

Oh I just remember more question for example piece 1 is 402 ilvl with Haste Mastery, piece 2 is 415 ilvl with Crit Versa, just replace it even if got no haste?

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[jagged pier]

yes

[iron junco]

Hi. What do you think about the bonus set in 10.2? To me it seems semi-useless in m+ where we are already in bad shape due to chronic lack of utility, perhaps in raids it is a little better, but even there it doesn't seem to intervene in the sector that worries us least: damage reduction.

[urban portal]

Its really good in raid

It’s just way too st

[ionic fern]

"Chronic lack of utility"? "Damage reduction"?

What.

[hazy bronze]

No healing = no utility I guess

[strong forum]

Paladin has always had it's insane "utility"

But somehow they weren't even on the radar all of bfa and most of SL

[urban portal]

Yeah ikr

Death grip like didn’t exist until sl s3

[sweet summit]

almost like utility is a buzzword to gatekeep

[urban portal]

And disappeared after

Weird

[strong forum]

And mentioning raid relevance and damage reduction as a weak point in the same sentence is kinda whack

Nobody really cares about defensive prowess in raid outside of like top 10 guilds

Past that point it's just a thing of git gud

[urban portal]

Well the raid defensive comes with a gazillion damage deleting bleeds

None of the other tank sets do a ton of st I think

[strong forum]

(he's just farming)

[urban portal]

Also now you can throw away points to have 2x bb

If you are into that

[strong forum]

Sims will tell

If you don't need Spellblock, you can talent out of enduring Defenses potentially

[urban portal]

I think it’s better than nails for sure in raid

[strong forum]

And get 2x BB

[strong forum]

And how do you path to punish?

[urban portal]

Oh wait

Yea

Mb

[strong forum]

That's the crux

Its either 0 BB or 2

[urban portal]

Wait no doesn’t bb also path to punish

[strong forum]

Cuz if you can get 1,you can get 2

[urban portal]

Oh yeah

[strong forum]

Yes but it's 2 points

[urban portal]

You have to finish the node

So it’s nails+soemtjing

[strong forum]

Either nails/bolster/spellblock

[jagged pier]

until u get mythic ilvl pieces 2pc 2pc might be better

so u run bolster anyway

[strong forum]

Ye

[jagged pier]

u can still get 15k dps out of the tier set with that

both nome and me this morning have got that

and thats without bb

and from testing yesterday its about 2k more dps from the tier set with 2x bb

so its not much of a gain anyway

[strong forum]

Hard to tell without Sims

1 or 10 samplesize ain't enough

[jagged pier]

true

[hazy bronze]

Overall, hows it play? Just kinda the big slam every so often?

[strong forum]

~10-12 procs per minute if you play well

of extra damage on shield slam

need to remember to reapply rend often via TC

[urban portal]

Yeah just make sure both bleeds are still ticking

[charred ivy]

How is prot warrior ranked now in DPS compared to other tanks?

[urban portal]

Up there

Our tier is entirely st

[violet ginkgo]

But I mean we just have to survive right? Let the dps worry about their dps.

[urban portal]

in raid sure

In m+ you still need to do damage

But tank dps still matters a bit in raid

[strong forum]

surviving is the bare minimum job of a tank

and playing optimally defensively also means youre playing really aggressively offensive

there is no pure defense playstyle

[strong forum]

at the current moment, in raid our ST is a big behind the other tanks
in m+ our damage is really close with everyone else, bear only gets the upside of being able to survive infinitely large pulls for exceedingly long whilst non-stop pumping dps

and brew aoe is just really strong by default

BDK aoe is also really good, but their ST is low

[lyric heart]

well the new tier set make op for that? so prot warr well be use in raid?

[strong forum]

Won't be OP for it

But our ST increases a good margin

And we get alot or consistent DR on the boss

[opaque quest]

Tank usage doesnt depend purely on dps. Looking at sarkareth for example

[strong forum]

So it's a big ol' maybe

tank choice for RWF is as following:

• raid buff (bshout / mystic touch / chaos brand)
• cheese potential /utility (Grips/AMS/Spellward/Bubble/Bop/roar(every druid brings that))
• dmg output
• survivability

In this order

[granite marten]

how strong is prot war magic dr?

is it still basically just spell reflect?

[sweet summit]

ignore pain exists

as do our cooldowns

demo shout/shield wall etc

[hazy bronze]

Spell block

[sick sentinel]

im currently tking nome approach to wow

only log in to fart around

havent done a single key this week yet

[opaque quest]

I started playing my sham again. Playing 1 key in a incorp week made me stop again

[sweet summit]

speaking of which

what is happening to affixes season 3

or still TBD

[opaque quest]

tbd

[sweet summit]

need them gone..

[opaque quest]

Incorp and Afflicted ruin the game for me

Low key

[sweet summit]

blizzard make enjoyable affixes challenge (impossible)

[opaque quest]

Tangled is fine

[urban portal]

Bring back prideful

[opaque quest]

I rather have the seasonal affixes again if that means we get rid of incorp

Told the new guy he needs MC

YES IT IS READ THE FUCKING AFFIX

[sweet summit]

friendly reminder to try not to gatekeep too much and help out in a kind way

[sick sentinel]

me as warrior when incorp/afflicted

[opaque quest]

Thats why i only said yes

[sweet summit]

[opaque quest]

Even told him where to get the point

But having to explain a talent 10 times in an hour is rough

[sick sentinel]

i would prefer to see blizzard have the affixes tuned for season 3

and then by 11.0 completely new ones

something we haven't ever seen before or couldnt predict

[mellow bridge]

what dk spec is that

[opaque quest]

Frost

Classic

Key dead. Tank just left

Cant even complete a 15 in weeks where ppl need to press 1 additional button

Last one im posting. Sry for spam but this one cracked me up

[rustic knot]

Seeing all this makes me glad i don't plan on logging back in for a few more weeks

[opaque quest]

Lies of P soon 🙏

[ionic roost]

tbf the priest can solo them

[opaque quest]

My favorite word in low keys is redundancy

[lime urchin]

Amen ❤️

[austere lava]

While he's keeping everyone alive? This mentality is why pugging is a shit show. Takes 1 second to help with affix and makes the key more enjoyable for everyone.

[ionic roost]

It's a 15, what's there to heal lmao

[opaque quest]

Youre both right. Usualy healers handle it solo but ppl just dumping it on the healer without at least picking it for emergencies is garbanzo

ehm

Am i doing something wrong or very right

[strong forum]

New partition

Since 10.1.7 just hit this week

So it's easier than normal to snag 100s

[opaque quest]

Oh sweet

[strong forum]

They won't lock in for a few days*

So if anybody after you does better, he takes your 100 away

[opaque quest]

Nobody with 430 will do more than 113 i think im good

lol

Havent played the chars in 3 months. Everything above 90 is fine for me honestly

[strong forum]

Log says you're 440

Smh

[opaque quest]

lul what

How the fuck am i 440

[strong forum]

susge

Ah...

You're checking ilvl parse

[opaque quest]

ofc i am. Why would i compare my 431 to 448s 😄

[strong forum]

Fake R1 smh

[opaque quest]

its also only HC

Just using them to flex on my friend who buys boosts for all his chars

[smoky pollen]

I skipped out on tanking because Fury was good this tier.
How wrong am I for playing Battle-Scarred Veteran but dropping Battering Ram for it?

[urban portal]

battle scarred veteran doesnt work properly

[hardy snow]

if he buys boosts, isnt just finishing raid enought to flex? XD

[smoky pollen]

As in the dr doesn’t apply correctly ?
I swapped into it when I picked prot back up in .5 because I was rotating defensives in DoTI but Murozond hurted and I needed one more thing to save me

[urban portal]

because it procs very unexpectedly

[hardy snow]

ask healer for external

[fallen spindle]

been running some myt doungens ( no lag ) to try out the new tier set and so on, atm, i really like the feel of it, also that roar is getting faster to use is nice while the tc reset feels nice if you dont have alot of haste, its very smooth, its pog

[urban bane]

it procs based off of pre-mitigated values.

so let's say something hits you which would bring you low enough to proc it. But you had that damage mitigated through, for example, shield block and shield wall, and it actually didnt bring your HP that low. The talent still procs

[opaque quest]

Kinda but hes sometimes leeching like 4 PIs in his guild runs so i need to at least get some good logs 😄

[hardy snow]

why is your guild wasting PIs on someone, who needs to buy boosts? 🤔

[opaque quest]

Its not my guild. Im pugging everything. Its a friends guild that fills with randos so instead of giving it to good randos they give it to him

[pallid quiver]

On top of that, Battering Ram also gives survival through more instances of Devastator, which can reset Shield Slam, meaning more rage to spend

In order to get good use out of Battle Scarred Vet, you have to specifically plan around it due to how it activates, so you need to pretty much plan to be in the situation you need it for in advance, such as specifically 3 minutes into a fight after it trivially procs at the start or something along those lines

as compared to simply swinging faster almost half the time giving more shield slams

[smoky pollen]

Oh okay I see I see. Thank you for the insight everyone.

[chilly brook]

Excuse me sir I’m very proud of my 100 ilvl parse on mythic zskarn

[pallid quiver]

please tell me you're like ilvl 250

it'd be funny

[chilly brook]

Since there are a grand total of 2 Dev evokers at 441 apparently on zskarn

[pallid quiver]

That's a different kind of funny

[chilly brook]

My overall parse went to shit because I died 30 seconds before boss died

But I mean still ending up with a 62 on a prog kill when you died and had 30+ seconds of nothing seems decent

Also fuck that boss

[sick sentinel]

taurens look dumb in the 500 tenders bundle

but thats about expected

[opaque quest]

25€ btw

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/special-important-necessary-quote-on-quote-quotation-gif-15177708

[chilly brook]

Tauren looks dumb with 95% of gear

If you’re a Tauren and you’re not mogging to reflect WC3 then you’re wrong

[pallid quiver]

There's very specific things that you do to make Tauren mog look good; it's most about the shoulders, helm, and gloves in that order

and you generally want to cover chest pieces with tabards because they just get stretched so much

[sick sentinel]

Or no chest

[opaque quest]

There are no helmets for Tauren. They just dont exist

I like the new totems from the trading post for tauren tho

[opaque quest]

@sick sentinel How do you handle spamming 17s. I have so many 445s doing 80k overall here wtf

[chilly brook]

Welcome to the club

[pallid quiver]

hey can you get me in those 17s

i'm pretty sure i can pull more than 80k overall at like, 395 or something

[opaque quest]

Im 431 doing 160k overall in Ulda

Ppl are so bad lol

[pallid quiver]

While doing timewalkings on alts, I saw a prot war who never pressed revenge

a single time

They only used Whirlwind

[opaque quest]

Yeah its not defensive. Fuck revenge

./s

[pallid quiver]

it makes me feel things that said person was the best tank i had all day

[chilly brook]

This fuckin guy (priest) was like 440 something

He had the gall to whine about chains not being “right” in neltharus

[pallid quiver]

damn there's an aug in there, too

[chilly brook]

Yeah….

Did I mention he was floor pov on the first two bosses?

[pallid quiver]

some people really just need to hit the training dummy more often and they just refuse to

[chilly brook]

Like I’m a 430 something prot boi

[pallid quiver]

like 5-10 minutes a day does wonders

[chilly brook]

I shouldn’t be out damaging you

Especially when you have an Aug

But yeah chains are the “problem”

For reference adds were brought to chains btw

[chilly brook]

I swear people latch onto the weirdest things in keys, like stop worrying about if chains are perfect in an 18 just press your buttons

[sudden palm]

Is the Zskarn dot spell blockable like Sarkareth's dot?

[chilly brook]

Press your buttons don’t die

[chilly brook]

[sudden palm]

Thank you

[pallid quiver]

It's not even just keys; I've had some people lose their shit over random shit in timewalking dungeons, even

[chilly brook]

Keys legit are press w and don’t die

[pallid quiver]

like i know we can just hop over the river after first boss in that one wotlk dungeon instead of going around my guy,

[chilly brook]

Once you get that down then we can start worrying about pressing w into the right areas and not dying

[pallid quiver]

there's no reason to spam every last ping and shout "FUCKING MORONS" if someone doesn't do that

At any rate, that was my reminder that the ping system exists now

[opaque quest]

K key done

Somehow we timed

This is how it looks at the end

Pala is 443

I am 431

We not gonna talk about the DH below tank

Pala ofc also helped alot with CC

[sick sentinel]

Serves you right meta slave

[opaque quest]

Im a prot warr main tho

And a unholy alt

Hows that meta

[sick sentinel]

I'm a brew enjoyer

Playing druid

[opaque quest]

Brew ftw

[sick sentinel]

Slave

[opaque quest]

If brew didnt have 45 buttons i'd play mine too

[sick sentinel]

[opaque quest]

Where is weapons of order

[mellow bridge]

PTA picker detected

[opaque quest]

Press the advantage isnt sweaty enough

[mellow bridge]

Opinion rejected

[opaque quest]

Everything cock ever said says or will ever say is invalid

na for real tho

PTA is giga terrible in AoE. I rather not play at all if i have to handicap myself this much

[sick sentinel]

2 less buttons

[opaque quest]

Yeah i know. I played with the thought of just going PTA but the amount of dps im losing just isnt worth it

[chilly brook]

Actually true tbh

[opaque quest]

So ill just stick to prot warr and BDK

[chilly brook]

Class needs about 2-3 less buttons

[opaque quest]

Just put all the shadowlands shit on a choice node

Fixed

[chilly brook]

More specifically in the offensive CD department

Rotational stuff isn’t bad

[south zealot]

no weapons of order or tiger palm id good

is

[sick sentinel]

https://murlok.io/monk/brewmaster/mm+#talents-specialization

[opaque quest]

Ye PTA is good for 30s

[mellow bridge]

murlok

[opaque quest]

Even the WoWhead guide says PTA is viable for hard content

But none of us plays 30s

So PTA is garbanzo beans

Also Murlok is just as useless as u.gg

[sick sentinel]

Not really

Just takes all of info from rio ect

[jagged pier]

Yes so useless because murlok only take the top 50 players for each spec

[opaque quest]

As long as this exists u.gg and Murlok are useless

[jagged pier]

Are u doing that content?

Because at that lvl its a different game

[opaque quest]

Thats why i said none of us is doing 30s

[jagged pier]

They websites can be good but u need to know why are what your looking at basically

Its why we hate that other one that just scrapes all the info because its just mot useful as ppl just follow thw trickles down even if its wrong

[opaque quest]

If ppl do it in 30 it must be good for my 14 weekly

[sick sentinel]

Applies to 22+

[jagged pier]

No it doesnt

22s are not 30s

High content is like 26s

Sure stuff from murlock might be good there

[opaque quest]

30s have insane teamplay. 22s still dont

[jagged pier]

^

It helps if 22s do

[strong forum]

What is even the context

[south zealot]

pta on brew

[opaque quest]

Context is PTA for brew is meh in low to mid keys

But Murlok says its good

[strong forum]

From I know

Pta is hard trolling

[opaque quest]

PTA is giga hard trolling unless you die without it

[strong forum]

You lose shitloads of single target dps to gain 3% aoe dmg

Or some shit

[south zealot]

worth

[opaque quest]

Other way around. You lose big aoe for ST

[sick sentinel]

Its literally just a guide

"GUIDE"

[south zealot]

honestly idk how it works i just said it was good in reference to brew having a lot of buttond

good step in removing bloat from the class

if its not taken then that sucks but fixed with tuning ofc

[opaque quest]

Well a Guide for a ferarri is still terrible if i have a WV and a guide to a racetrack and how to deal with corners is still shit if i drive in the city only^^

Its just for different areas

[sick sentinel]

Better than wowhead

Faster than looking on rio

[mellow bridge]

you lose the boc -> tp combo which constitutes most of your ST dmg actually

[south zealot]

murlok is almost never better thsn wowhead

[sick sentinel]

Just a brtief overview

[mellow bridge]

it's a damage loss for both aoe and st, the only use it has is simplifying the spec

[strong forum]

you lose tigerpalm

[sick sentinel]

Because woiwhead shows embellishments ect

[strong forum]

which crits for 200k or some shit

[opaque quest]

Oh ye you guys right

[strong forum]

playing PTA

is just trolling

to gain 3% aoe

but lose your strongest ST/prio button

[sick sentinel]

2 less buttons

[opaque quest]

PTA gives huge rising dmg tho doesnt it

I mean it doesnt matter what you play in 22s

[sick sentinel]

Works for me as 5 is always taunt

[south zealot]

still a loss bc u use tiger palm a lot in st

[opaque quest]

Just saying its still a big hit

[strong forum]

"huge"

[chilly brook]

Eh, I mean I’ll troll myself to make the class actually playable

[opaque quest]

"doesnt it"

[chilly brook]

[strong forum]

id rather deal meaningful dmg

than play 2 less buttons

just my take

[opaque quest]

My OCD wouldnt let me play brew because my brain would always yell at me thati m sub optimal lmao

[strong forum]

buffing your aoe, as the already highest dps tank, at the cost of .. 17%(i believe pao said) ST dmg

sounds like a real bad fucking deal to me

[sick sentinel]

less buttons always good

[strong forum]

sure for your weekly key its whatever

[sick sentinel]

Exactly

[strong forum]

at those levels nothing matters

[sick sentinel]

I dont do 20+ on monk so

[strong forum]

well evidence suggests

that even on 30s it doesnt matter

but youre not doing yourself any favours either

[sick sentinel]

I dont even follow trhe guide just play what i like personally and what dungeon ect

Only posted that cause roaach asking where weapons at, most people dont even play it, probably for same reason less buttons

Even equinox runs PTA

[strong forum]

the guy known to pad aoe as hard as humanly possible

yes

[sick sentinel]

Mr dps himself ofc

[opaque quest]

Wait

I thought i was the guy to pad aoe as hard as possible

[sick sentinel]

Eranog as outlaw pad heaven

[opaque quest]

Beautiful

[weary saddle]

how come protwar channel is talking abt brew...

[opaque quest]

As long as mwahi doesnt see us we are talking about everything

If mwahi sees us we are running for our dear lifes

[obtuse viper]

Pvp chat talks about wind Walker a lot why not brew in prot?

[opaque quest]

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