i think its just a skill issue with not being on a comfort pick vs someone being on a comfort pick
#protection
high aspen
warm plinth
yeah on the attempt you linked, it looks like the monk peeled early on ~10 seconds in, DH taunted back, monk taunted at the swap, then just kept right on taunting even though he had threat already.
high aspen
and its putting him on edge
ionic fern
I mean..if it was a one off issue it's up to your RL/tanks if it's w/e or not.
But i would sit that monk down and talk to him about:
1)Taunting
2)Rotation
Or get another tank.
latent cargo
Anybody else just take sanguine weeks off? lol
high aspen
Or get another tank.
hes usually pretty good with tanking
maybe check our rashok kill
and see if its weird
ill do tht myself
high aspen
hes usually dk
with like purples and high blues
then his monk is like greys and low greens
ionic fern
Just for buff then?
high aspen
Just for buff then?
yes
lusty grotto
thats not hekili
high aspen
ik
lusty grotto
thats bannable and fuck people that do that
urban portal
That’s hekili tor edition
high aspen
4 casts of provoke on a full rashok kill
that seems normal to me
rashok, zskarn and mag all look normal in the taunts for me
then nelth its like super giga fucked
ionic fern
That's normal, jeah.
warm plinth
monk just macroed that shit to something 
warm plinth
you know what would make this taunting thing easier? MACROING IT TO KEG SMASH
high aspen
i think what happened is the other tank was on pally, not doing as much damage as he would on dh
then our dh had a mental fucking breakdown so we had to swap tank classes
warm plinth
But the thing is, their DPS is never very far apart
high aspen
but it has to be the dps thing
warm plinth
Is there a specific attempt you can point us to where peeling threat was an issue?
ionic fern
Did they try without the monk spamming taunt?
high aspen
Did they try without the monk spamming taunt?
it happened twice where the dh pulled off the monk and got like oneshot cause of the tank debuff
so i guess yes they did try
high aspen
whats bad about that
ionic fern
So..how taunt works:
-It forces the enemy to attack you for 3 seconds
-It grants the player who taunted threat equal to the who had aggro of the enemy before
-It increases the threat generation of the taunting player for 3 seconds
The last part is crucial here.
Your monk has 3 seconds of increased threat generation to make use of.
And he's using it to roll.
warm plinth
Rollin rollin rollin, gotta keep on rollin
high aspen
ic
warm plinth
Only one of those are a good use of the taunt window
ionic fern
^
warm plinth
which is the one where he used KS>BoF>RSK
high aspen
the 3rd picture yes
warm plinth
the rest suck
thick gazelle
hello, just started to play prot warr this week, is there a macro to swap between stances on one button?
warm plinth
Yep, there's one in the pins friend
high aspen
aight, instead of taunt rolling to the spot for the big red circle, he should just be taunting and walking to the spot (while using damage spells ofc)
warm plinth
Well no other tank needs to use movement to get there right? So there's no reason he should.
ionic fern
We had the same issue a couple of times with my co-tank tbh.
He also taunted the boss and ran away while i stayed on the boss and kept DPS'ing.
Which caused him to lose aggro.
warm plinth
Plus monk taunt makes the boss move faster, so he should have no trouble moving the boss while continuing to dps
ionic fern
We're trialing a new monk right now.
I hate it.
He taunts on pull and i'm not used to the boss going zoomzoom, which means i'm missing my Charge window.
south zealot
take him hostage
ionic fern
Which in turn means that my minigame of trying to fit a Outburst SS into the first DS window is scuffed.
vapid wedge
just ask if he wants it first my dk co tank does it pick it up 2nd and get have burst window into holding boss
void heath
died on our first rashok kill tonight at the very end because my cotank was channeling beacon during the tank combo and I got giga blasted
ionic fern
void heath
at least I blocked 11m of the hit
vapid wedge
yeah ive been guilty of that
warm plinth
died on our first rashok kill tonight at the very end because my cotank was chan...
worth it
void heath
the blood price was paid
warm plinth
He better have parsed well though
void heath
that pull started out a clown fiesta, nobody parsed well
warm plinth
Nvm not worth then
ionic fern
I think i'm getting old..or depressed..or both.
I don't care about parses anymore in raids.
Which was pretty much the only reason i raided.
jagged pier
warm plinth
D:
ionic fern
That because its all rng
That is true.
No beacon? Get rekt noob.
Then you get beacon and are like "Oh jeah, i can finally parse better".
No beacon crit? Get rekt noob.
jagged pier
hollow bolt
No beacon crit, turn back to boss and reset fight
restive crown
do people who do boost runs for timed 23s have different strats to be able to time it with 4 man?
blazing condor
usually at that lvl your expected to help
grim pilot
Buyer might do shit dps but even 50-60k is helpful
And they dont do 50-60k anyway
- nowadays people require aug (KEKW) to be able to boost in 23 n shit - advertisers legit mention it surprisingly often
restive crown
ahhhh that explains alot
want to try boosting but was thinking how to time with js 4 man 🤣
grim pilot
Well it’s not unrealistical to time that but you shouldn’t even think about it without a team anyway
Since in 20 and above it’s all team takes
quasi kernel
Can time a +10 with 4 but it is abit tight
severe hinge
hey warıors
i need to help
need help
what r u usın for sım prot warıor gears, raidbot or mrrobot
blazing condor
raidbots
quasi kernel
Raid
severe hinge
Tanks and Healers sim DPS, not healing or survival tthat doesnt matter ?
blazing condor
you sim for damage as well
strong forum
want to try boosting but was thinking how to time with js 4 man 🤣
Tbf, timing 23s with 4 top players is not that hard
People are timing higher keys with worse dps
blazing condor
for protection warriors doing more damage = having more surivability
grim pilot
Ye but people who boost in 23’s are USUALLY not top players anyway
Boost requirements are weird
strong forum
Really?
blazing condor
if you feel like you need survivability in 10-20 you are probably not playing the class as well as you should
grim pilot
Theyre good true but not top
strong forum
I mean surely it's dps who can pull 200k+
Cuz like there are groups out there doing 25s with 100k average dps per player
quasi kernel
Haven't seen anyone that pulled 200k
grim pilot
Idk req’a are weird
severe hinge
if you feel like you need survivability in 10-20 you are probably not playing th...
maybe i cant but what about pug healers
quasi kernel
Think closest was 120k
blazing condor
well you can only focus on yourself
grim pilot
25’s with 100k avg? I lose dps if we wipe or die but in a clean run I highly doubt people do that
blazing condor
if you want tips you can post a log here and we can tell you what to improve on
otherwise you just sim for damage and try and play the class correctly
strong forum
25’s with 100k avg? I lose dps if we wipe or die but in a clean run I highly dou...
Literally went over a log in acherus 2 or 3 days ago where 3 people have 100k or less dps in UR25
Tank did 80, aug did 77 and fire did 100k
quasi kernel
Damn
strong forum
It is
blazing condor
just goes tos how
you can clear keys
even if youre shit
if youre just not waffling it
strong forum
They didn't time the 25 cuz that is awfully low dps
grim pilot
Think worst I did in higher ur was 140 after dying plenty of times
strong forum
But not by that much
strong forum
Ye 140 is almost tank dmg in UR (on details)
quasi kernel
I clean 60k-70k at 404 Ilvl
strong forum
Gotta specify these days
grim pilot
Nah 140 on details is like 3 gcds during the whole dungeon nowadays
strong forum
I talked about log dps in the 25 context
But tank dps in UR on logs is like.. 100-110k? Ish
grim pilot
I assume, I’m doing like 80-90 and im kinda trash as prot
grim pilot
Tbf up until 23-24 you dont really need to do good just dont die, have a clean run with normal sized pulls and you should time it
strong forum
Yes
If your dps aren't entirely afk, clean is way more important
Than going mega big risky tgp pulls
grim pilot
That’s me
Ever since I switched to dps I see all these tanks doing gigantic pulls and I can’t just sit idly by pulling 1 or 2 packs even in 20
I forgot it was bolstering last week and I pulled way too big and didnt kite, got meleed for 700k and died
quasi kernel
Had a bear tank just pull everything till boss I was like wtf
blazing condor
quasi kernel
He didn't die everyone else did
jagged pier
I just dont do weeklies 
blazing condor
sounds like a them issue
the tank is SUPPOSED to die
yet you didnt
so ??? no problem
grim pilot
golden tartan
warm plinth
all of those are better than dreadplates
stuck basin
expecting that a pug handle 7 casters is kind of optimistic - and them dieing for it cost you way more time then splitting the pull - if you have a coordinated team thats another story
warm plinth
myrt is a bad pwar anyway
grim pilot
I dont have good route for 20’s as I usually play with priests so half of the 1st area is skipped
warm plinth
😉
grim pilot
myrt is a bad pwar anyway
Agreed
strong forum
I dont have good route for 20’s as I usually play with priests so half of the 1s...
Press w
grim pilot
that's what I did
https://keystone.guru/route/brackenhide-hollow/yxY3fn0/brackenhide-hollow/edit/1 this is the kind of shit
silver tundra
What is everyone’s strategy for the bleed guys in uldaman on fort week? As dps I saw a Druid tank grab all three at once no problem, but when I tried it I had a… different result
The Reshi
solar gorge
Most pwars I saw just skipped the most they could and the others dwarf/evoker stuff
gloomy vortex
Kite the basilisks and other bleeds tbh, don’t go above two stacks and use spell block
sick sentinel
im a little bit surprised not much was said about the 19 vp video i posted.
jagged gust
Turn those bastards into their own pull if you have to
solemn current
What is everyone’s strategy for the bleed guys in uldaman on fort week? As dps I...
Your mean the guys before snake boss? You can just step out every time they cast jagged bite and step back in between casts to do damage to avoid kiting them around. Stun them occasionally.
sick sentinel
What is everyone’s strategy for the bleed guys in uldaman on fort week? As dps I...
im taking the @strong forum approach, dont log in during fort / sanguine weeks, only, he never logs in period so
solemn current
I just pull them all to the bottom and do that. Don’t tank them on the stairs think they bug out and hit dps.
hardy snow
its sanguine this week?
well, they couldnt do better timing for patch with new content then 
sick sentinel
sanguine, in its current form, is why the fuck is this in a video game period
this is like a fucking mechanic that belongs in a 8 bit or 16 bit game, something from 1990's
not a game with RTX from 2023
i just want new fun affixes we haven't seen before
sick sentinel
content deez nuts
sick sentinel
aint done basically no new cotent my self, the new races are WAY too hard for me didnt do the daycare, didnt do many time rifts, didnt touch the new dream surge, didnt start the new main story quest
strong forum
the story quest takes like 10 minutes
sick sentinel
not really complaints, just simple notations on what i've seen and done
strong forum
i did blue dragonflight quest chain and new one from this patch yesterday in like 1hr TOPS
hardy snow
i guess im gonna spend some time on these new races mode
strong forum
more like 40minutes combined
hardy snow
its not that easy like all previous
dusky canopy
Are we able to straight up dragonfly in OG Azeroth yet?
strong forum
the annyoing part for the meta achievement is cave stuff
dusky canopy
I haven’t tried
strong forum
Are we able to straight up dragonfly in OG Azeroth yet?
11.0 is my bet
hardy snow
got only silver and bronze on first attempts
sick sentinel
if there was a battlefield game out that didnt suck huge donkey balls i'd be playing that all day as much as i spend playing it and talking with you guys
sadly no such game currently exists forme
dusky canopy
11.0 is my bet
Yeah you probably right in that estimate
hardy snow
the annyoing part for the meta achievement is cave stuff
fortunately ive done this before even they released this metaachiev, but indeed there is some work for this
hardy snow
well, I like this type of content, something to do outside of raiding
jagged gust
The one nice thing is it puts rare mobs on a hyper spawn timer, so if you're hurting for some rando mog or those dragon shards of knowledge its pretty neat
sick sentinel
look, wow is very very very fun to me
but tanks and rocket launchers and nukes and shit, is way more fun
jagged gust
but seriously they gave us 2 quests and yet another catchup system for alts/newbies, I get that we just got a mega dungeon last patch but I'm already tired of running it just for mogs
hardy snow
but tanks and rocket launchers and nukes and shit, is way more fun
well, technically there are tanks and rockets in wow, just no nukes yet (I guess Sylv would get them soon if we didnt stop her)
strong forum
i love it when you get catchup gear, and its not even remotely good
jagged gust
Battlefield was my life back in the day, I'll take it over cod any day of the week
sick sentinel
and pc ofc
hardy snow
but seriously they gave us 2 quests and yet another catchup system for alts/newb...
and the best part of patch (EK races) is timegate for no reason XD
jagged gust
I have managed to get like 3 alts I haven't touched in 3 months up to ilvl 410 from like 325 in like a span of 3 hours tho, so that's nice
strong forum
mh i guess 410 is alright
jagged gust
I have them all parked at the primordial chest, so basically it makes soloing the event easier lmao
strong forum
i dont play alts but good to know
sick sentinel
my absolute favorite, is your in an LFR or LFD and you get kicked
so you get the 1 hour debuff
no only are you kicked out of raid you cant even join back if you want to
and EVEN THEN, YOU STILL HAVE TO WAIT AGAEIN
jagged gust
how tf do you get kicked from group finder?
jagged gust
Honestly Ive been playing on and off since wod, and I've only ever seen people get kicked for going afk for 5+ minutes
Well technically TBC but we didnt have the group finder back then
sick sentinel
i actually hate seeing that debuff that any time i know im about to get it it, i make SURE i can see it, cuz say im AFK and i get booted and i go outside for 6 hrs
and then i log back in then ill have 1 hour wait
so, instead i make sure it starts countingdown if possible then log for an hour
is like a slap in the face after getting kicked in the balls
tired crystal
Hey! Do we know what stat weight to go for > Rashok Mythic?
strong forum
Raid is just whatever Sims highest for you
tired crystal
Can't sim defensives can you?
strong forum
And if you want pure defense for raid
Its just haste > vers
tired crystal
Cool, ty
strong forum
Defensive prowess in raid is given by playing well
Stuff doesn't hurt enough to warrant going pillow mode
So you generally just go max damage
strong forum
Plan your defensives
Nothing about tank dmg on rashok is random, everything is plannable
Planning your CDs for the tank combos does infinitely more than getting 10% more vers
strong forum
It also depends on who is going to take the flame slash
You don't need to use a defensive if you're not gonna eat the flame slash
tired crystal
Ahh, okay so its the flame slash that hits hard
strong forum
Yes
tired crystal
Is that ANY flame slash?
jagged pier
Rashok is easy spell block covers the first 2
strong forum
There is only 1 flame slash cast
jagged pier
Sw the third
strong forum
There are no other spells called flame slash
jagged pier
First 2 sets of tank combo
strong forum
Earthen crush is whatever
Just have shieldblock up and you're fine for earthen crush
tired crystal
Noo, as in - I can take two hits on the taunt swap
jagged pier
No
strong forum
You can only eat 1 of each slam
jagged pier
But u can have 1 of each
tired crystal
okay cool, just clarifying things
jagged gust
You don't need to use a defensive if you're not gonna eat the flame slash
Is there a way to plan this? double taunt potentially?
tired crystal
Sorry if I sound like an idiot lol
strong forum
Is there a way to plan this? double taunt potentially?
Rng
Whoever is currently tanking
jagged pier
Its on the off tank to pay attention if the second hit is the same then they taunt if not they taunt on the third
strong forum
It's 50-50 whoever keeps the boss for 2 hits
jagged pier
I mean your eyes tell u but sure
tired crystal
well yeah lol
jagged gust
Actually yeah I'm clearly not thinking here, there's no reasonable way to avoid a fire slash here and there
tired crystal
^ would be nice
jagged pier
Nah its easy
The first 2 tank combos are fast enough u have spell block up for both
Then the third u have sw
U jave sr for all of the tank combos
So u just use cds like that every phase easy
tired crystal
Okay cool
jagged pier
Doesnt matter if u dont take a flame just send it anyway
tired crystal
So essentially save pretty much most cds for the tank busters?
jagged pier
U dont need them at any other point
tired crystal
Thats fair enough!
jagged gust
Actually I should have learned this by now, what's the optimal cd rotation?
jagged pier
If youve done the boss or progging it yer u probably should
I was trying to min max and not take spell block cba'd took spell block to make it brain dead and still got r1
strong forum
Actually I should have learned this by now, what's the optimal cd rotation?
Wdym offensive or defensive?
Offensive is avatar->ravager>demo>roar>sc
jagged gust
To stack defensives for optimal uptime between SR/SW/SB/trinket
strong forum
Defensive depends on boss
You don't need defensive trinket
As jakey already said
You have SR for every single combo
jagged gust
Well I'm taking one in NL, about the only time I feel necessary
strong forum
M+ you don't "rotate" CDs
Cuz we don't have any CDs to rotate in m+
We have demo which you use on CD unless you specifically need it for this one thing which won't happen again
And SW which is 1min CD
Spellblock you use vs casters when you tank them for prolonged time without kicks and don't have SW ready
jagged gust
But for possible higher frequency attacks or often occurring raid damage with fewer necessary tank busters to DR
jagged gust
Alright viewing it from simply a theorycraft pov
hardy snow
Tanks don't care about that trickle dmg
sometimes they do when its combined with their dmg intake
hardy snow
especially on fights with dot dmg, like zskarn etc., when we get dmg all the time
strong forum
Zskarn is 99% tank dmg
And a buster here and there for the raid
Which doesn't do alot
It's more a knock back and just a heal check
jagged pier
and dont forget to use def stance for this combo <:okayge:917646812519739433>
With the way i just said u dont need to swap
tired crystal
It's more a knock back and just a heal check
Run a bunch of DKS >:D
strong forum
The knock back isn't an issue
Just a positioning check
Aka don't be infront of firec
Real hard
jagged gust
Like regardless of it's current relevancy I'm still interested in the idea of trying to break it down
strong forum
But like I said, raid wide dmg is generally not rly relevant to tanks to the degree to needing to commit CDs to it because more often than not, when that happens the tanks don't get melee'd or have mechanics of their own to deal with
It's entirely encounter dependant how to use your CDs
There is no blanket rotation/answer
jagged gust
Like SR > SW > SR > SB > possibly trinket > SR > Maybe SW is up by now?
strong forum
For which scenario
jagged pier
The knockback after the changes actually just help u position the boss correctly
jagged gust
Literally just a idea to theorycraft for the fun of it
jagged gust
The scenario is magic damage is ticking on you constantly for infinity, and it hurts
cerulean tusk
I think at that point, where you just want to blanket DR all fight long. Just use Dstance and throw rest on CD
strong forum
Sit in defensive stance, use your CDs as often as possible, use SW ideally on high stacks if there are stacks
jagged pier
ask for externals
strong forum
If its zskarn for example
jagged pier
like i bet 99% of tanks dont ask for externals on sark claws on mythic
tired crystal
You bet i do ^
cerulean tusk
I promise I will, when I do it in 4-5 expansions
jagged pier
jagged gust
That's actually a good point to make, I'd include that on a tanking guide. I don't recall seeing advice like that anywhere when I started.
jagged pier
because no one asks for externals
strong forum
You have usually 4-5 healers on your roster
make use of them
That's why going pillow mode in raid is lamo
cerulean tusk
because no one asks for externals
Lies, I whisper hpaladins for sac timeing if I struggle. I love sac and PS. IB I don't notice
jagged pier
imo its 1 thing that makes a difference between a good tank and a great tank, theres other stuff for sure but thats one of them
cerulean tusk
It is very high end problem tho. Won't make it break HC, and that is where 90% ish ppl are 
why complicate things unnecessarily
jagged pier
well sure
but still ppl always want to improve but they refuse to use externals and stuff
maybe they dont like being on mic
cerulean tusk
People refuse?
cerulean tusk
You plan externals way ahead tho, so don't even need a mic
jagged pier
ive had others that just dont know they exsist or didnt
u can
but asking for them on the fly is also a skill
jagged pier
no
cerulean tusk
Happens
jagged pier
first few pulls of prog u dont know whats going on or going into a new phase
know what u have avaible at that time and asking accordingly is a big thing
sometimes on farm the healers just cba to heal u so u have to think on the fly
like i can tell if the next tankbuster is gunna kill me even with my planned defensives
cerulean tusk
That is the "I am dead" call
Ya ain't gonna die
To be fair, I do remember when I did mythic prog as a tank that I did call for externals and tracked them actively. But, when I stopped doing that content, it was something that I had to unlearn for HC and lowM prog. As the people can't work around it, without some sort of issue.
Still works great in m+ tho
(some healers like it, a lot of healers take it personally or get stressed out)
sick sentinel
go look in #transmog, i posted some of the most common transmogs i use, don't use the gold one very often
proper roost
welp s3 legendary is a 2h str axe
also why did jordan leave this time
did they fight with a mod again
strong forum
throne of the tides is infinitely worse
sick sentinel
welp s3 legendary is a 2h str axe
im re-rolling arms you say?
proper roost
i mean
sick sentinel
or dk i guess
proper roost
tbh
I didn't think they would ever do throne of tides
i thought blizz would be smart enough not to
🤪
strong forum
🙂
proper roost
so everbloom was my "oh this is the worst possible dungeon they could redo"
sick sentinel
NOOOOO
strong forum
everbloom was fine imo
jagged pier
fucking waycrest
waycrest
again
they better change it for sanguine
like i cba
tyr ran council boss in there
sick sentinel
im talking about throne of tides here
jagged pier
FUCKING NO
woven dove
2h axe leggo. BDK meta again boys
sick sentinel
but god no that trash on fort
proper roost
Am I crazy though or is this the shadowmourne model
sick sentinel
3rd boss trash
proper roost
sick sentinel
like, the squid trash
proper roost
Assuming this is it, because in blizz's release the caption for the legendary weapon is under this image
proper roost
What do you mean "I hope its rumor"
It's literally a blizzard post
Up right now
With the whole S3 dungeon list
You galoomba
You're hoping Blizz is stirring up a rumor themselves that that's the dungeon list they've been working on for the last several months and will actually reveal that it's a fakeout??
daring marlin
Four aids dungeons sick
strong forum
2h axe leggo. BDK meta again boys
not unlikely
daring marlin
Throne, DHT, Evertrash, and AD? disgusting
torn gust
ye
jagged pier
^
strong forum
the only dungeons ill enjoy are BRH and WCM
jagged pier
this is the worst dungeon rotations they have done to date
strong forum
cuz its infinite bigpulls
daring marlin
@plush tendon we bdk boys stay winning
proper roost
more like
strong forum
doubt it
sick sentinel
proper roost
not playing the season stays winning
daring marlin
can only hope jakey
sick sentinel
these fuckers
proper roost
strong forum
to change talents?
daring marlin
I'm surprised throne is in there
strong forum
98% of talents are hard locked
strong forum
the only choice we have is between "which of the 4 block talents do i pick"
daring marlin
not playing the season stays winning
play with me bby imy
plush tendon
<@181600386941976577> we bdk boys stay winning
ima get my lego first week
you heard it here first
proper roost
play with me bby imy
u played with me for like one day and then never invited me again
and then quit
😡
strong forum
like, we'll just go back to HR and TaN/spellblock
dusky canopy
strong forum
literally s1 talents
jagged pier
yer i know
strong forum
same for raid
jagged pier
sick sentinel
hey, one good thing about throne will be we will get to see some truly outrageous dps numbers on final boss last phase
strong forum
but besides that, i cant see any change happening
jagged pier
no new teir set increase proc rate and damage of execute
jagged pier
ither druid or bdk
strong forum
it depend entirely on tiersets boys
dont get overhyped for nothing
if BDK gets a shit tierset again
they stay in the dirt
daring marlin
u played with me for like one day and then never invited me again
???????
sick sentinel
why would execute hite more than 1 target
strong forum
to make it not useless in m+?
sick sentinel
is one of the most personal abilities in the game
strong forum
like i cant even think of a tierset
that isnt just banner
so we'll see
maybe its a demo shout one
strong forum
maybe its... a revenge one
jagged pier
Sense probably knows
strong forum
nah we had that already
daring marlin
again? pepelaugh
proper roost
🤔
strong forum
a thunderclap set?
jagged pier
Please no
daring marlin
jagged pier
Not bom
strong forum
well bom was avatar
jagged pier
Its a shit dungeon
jagged pier
99% of ppl dont even know one of the bosses as u skip it
sick sentinel
you know WHY they dont know the boss
plush tendon
hopfully they remove the elavator
strong forum
again
sick sentinel
cuz 90% of them cant get past this guy
plush tendon
or rearrange the boss order
sick sentinel
they go up the stairs
and he beats the fuck out of them
and then theres like 4 more of them
daring marlin
Throne gonna make wise mari buggin' look like nothin'
sick sentinel
and thats only to approach the boss room, you HAVE to do a double pull of them
sick sentinel
2nd boss with the huge circles could suck too
theres ALOT that could go wrong in that dungeon simple crap
sick sentinel
final boss is mostly fine
first boss probably fine, its a skill issue boss
always were
daring marlin
@proper roost we played more than one day--not my fault you raid 6 days a week, though!
sick sentinel
everbloom was the really beatiful flower dungeon right
daring marlin
weirdboi!
sick sentinel
i liked that one cuz it was nice and nature or whatever
proper roost
<@116366605818134530> we played more than one day--not my fault you raid 6 days ...
i'm down to 2
sick sentinel
i don't know either of those legion dungeons
daring marlin
DHT can ligma but BRH is a banger dungeon
daring marlin
Can’t wait to not have it all season
mood
I'll farm it on my three classes
Whoever gets it first is my main
:^)
lusty tiger
It seemed like the weapon has a steady upgrade track
Like you guaranteed acquiring it over time
lusty tiger
In the interview
strong forum
cant wait to not play m+ next season
and only raid to get the axe for vanity reasons
strong forum
it is
daring marlin
i'm down to 2
So we can play now???
proper roost
no because you quit and just play league
daring marlin
Weren't they 330k ?
plush tendon
idk if Worgan are just ugly.... but this set is super poop
sick sentinel
over 300k is usually im really interseted
daring marlin
no because you quit and just play league
HELLO I COULD PLAY
dim slate
hey sry if this is a dumb question or allready asked. I want 2 play a prot warrior for raid and m+. Some people say haste/crit is the best stats i should get and craft and some told me haste/versa is the way 2 go. What should i craft ? ^^`` a mix of both?
dusky canopy
It’s all the people who paid 15 bucks to do an hour of quests in the new patch
proper roost
dusky canopy
Don’t worry token will go back up
sick sentinel
some dude has 1 helmet
he knows i want it
only 1 ever on AH appears, 400k
bastard
thats not entire reason i want gold but i could use it towards that
daring marlin
also kanga I'll have you know I intend to do a fresh save of Elden Ring.
So not JUST LEAGUE
strong forum
hey sry if this is a dumb question or allready asked. I want 2 play a prot warri...
generally haste crit is better
but you cant go wrong with haste/vers if you prefer that
uneven mason
Crit mastery all the way
proper roost
BRING ME WITH U??
uneven mason
Crests becoming a currency
daring marlin
because tanks aren't people
uneven mason
This expansion reintroduced the least favorite thing about RPGs to wow, bag Tetris
uneven mason
because tanks aren't people
☝️
modern gazelle
This expansion reintroduced the least favorite thing about RPGs to wow, bag Tetr...
idk i never have bag issues
like how much shit can you have? we have like 200 slots available
modern gazelle
you have 200 slots...if you are out of room you are holding onto too much stuff
like people hold 50 gear pieces for no reason
uneven mason
I haven't hoarded gear since.... legion?
But idk always too.much garbage
Well, not lately, because I'd have to play to have garbage in my bags
dusky canopy
Literally same LOLOL
So many trash trinket in my bags and I’m just hoping someone finds a bug with them I can abuse for a day or two for the fun of it
strong forum
well i dont hold onto trash trinkets
modern gazelle
But idk always too.much garbage
if you posted your bags i bet we could fine a ton of stuff to get rid of
modern gazelle
the only things i hoard are trinkets, and only the good ones that may have some use
and only if its 441/447
sick sentinel
i wonder how hard arms chat or dk or like i dunno ret or some other 2h spec is nerding out about 2h lego
plush tendon
i wonder how hard arms chat or dk or like i dunno ret or some other 2h spec is n...
Ive had a little chubby since it was annouced
proper roost
Sorry about that hope you lose the weight soon
plush tendon
Sorry about that hope you lose the weight soon
thks ❤️
Im on a new diet; replaced my double mountain dew with only normal mountain dew
jagged gust
sullen gust
Just me or does warrior tier set look kinda like shit? I like the legs but the rest of it is meh at best (at least from the pvp style)
strong forum
yes with these colours it indeed looks like shit
gotta wait for real tints to evaluate it
neon jay
<@80717720873603072>
👊
sick sentinel
waxen frigate
Holy shit this set is straight heat
median tulip
When does Season 3 start?
median tulip
ok cool
daring marlin
Holy shit this set is straight heat
facts bro
waxen frigate
When does Season 3 start?
Leaks/rumors I’ve heard are patch being the week after blizzcon
Which would mean probably a week or two for RWF before thanksgiving in the US
mighty valley
yeah probably but i don't have a million dollars to spare
violet ginkgo
generally haste crit is better
Is there a boss in game right now that has constant attack which bypassing parry?
strong forum
zskarn and experiments dot application cant be parried iirc
but besides that, you can parry all auto attacks
waxen frigate
zskarn and experiments dot application cant be parried iirc
Correct
And while not current tier, last tier crawth’s peck was not able to be parried/dodge
strong forum
To make matters worse they made it so halfway through the season
warm plinth
Mmhm
grand veldt
How's damage profile look for prot war in season 3 dungeons?
warm plinth
What are they again? Waycrest, AD, Ever, Throne (barf), DHT, BRH, and I can't remember the last one
Last two
Whatever
warm plinth
Witches and lady Waycrest have good reflects
warm plinth
Last boss dht has a good reflect too iirc
strong forum
Everbloom and throne will have to see
And the mega dungeon uuh we need to see the tuning
warm plinth
Oh right dawn is the last two dungeons
warm plinth
I'm dreading that gauntlet though
warm plinth
I am generally very good at that kind of thing and I have not made it to the end a single time so far
warm plinth
Imagine picking throne of the tides as your Cata m+ pick though
What a shit dungeon
I guess they can only go up from here for cata m+ though lil
Lol*
Vp and throne are easily the worst two
cinder nova
LEGENDARY SHIELD WHEN
REEEEE
They probably wont make one.
There's like... what? 4 specs that use shields?
Oh, wait - 5 if you count ele
south zealot
throne of the tides is SO dogshit
they cannot make it tolerable
season is dead already gg go next
daring marlin
LEGENDARY SHIELD WHEN
tanks thinking they're people again...
based choco per usual
grand veldt
Imagine picking throne of the tides as your Cata m+ pick though
Be grateful they didnt pick halls of origination
7 boss dungeon with puzzles and shit
The best options they had were stonecore and grim batol and those suck too
warm plinth
Be grateful they didnt pick halls of origination
I was actually just telling someone that every dungeon with Halls in the name had sucked ass except Halls of Atonement lol
grand veldt
Yeah I like that one
I also liked the WoD ubrs
And could have been cool if they started modernizing the classic dungeons into m+
hardy snow
I have question about spellblocking dots that arent dots (sarkareth, magmorax), do I have to face boss for blocking to work as source of dmg?
jagged gust
I'm dreading that gauntlet though
Don't worry, instead of usings your wits and reactions there's gonna be some cheese like stacking immunes that's gonna semi dictate the meta
warm plinth
no one answered me on why jordan left again
did they?
Why does that priest one look insanely familiar is my question
chilly brook
like this shit is so bad
chilly brook
Why does that priest one look insanely familiar is my question
seems a bit BT themed
but like it's a fire set
hardy snow
shoulders are cool, but this helmet and gloves ughh
jagged gust
its like someone ate guacamole dip with ketchup chips then threw up on a plate of armor
warm plinth
I like the DK set
chilly brook
shoulders are cool, but this helmet and gloves ughh
it's all garbage imo
chilly brook
I like the DK set
dk, dh and priest are all the only good ones imo
I kinda like what they're doing with mage though
warm plinth
Yeah the mage one is at least a different direction. It looks pretty cool
Reminds me of one of the armor sets from Dark Souls
chilly brook
DK is probably the winner so far
south zealot
still think the 'dk' set is rogue
warm plinth
crimson furnace
fuck this game
like they cant do me like this
ffs
what the actual cancer is this??
is this work in progress???
placeholder?
sick sentinel
supple path
It really captures that, "Why are you still playing this class, peasant?" vibe.
sick sentinel
if thats supposed to be warrior set, thats my response
grand veldt
Do you guys think DK will just be defacto FOTM from using the 2h Axe legendary?
sick sentinel
bdk top tank next tier calling it now
daring marlin
bdk top tank next tier calling it now
late to the party smh my head yogi
we were calling that months ago!!!!
nocturne spindle
sick sentinel
bdk is lots of fun some times
WHAT IN TARNATION
what the hell is going on here? consoom my bleeds? why?
nocturne spindle
i mean you basically always reapply them
its just 10% damage reduction and moar damage
lavish sphinx
grand veldt
Monk got some sick bonuses too
Yeah I dunno yet but I think we're farmed this season, even though our set bonus seems really good
Bdk with legendary has to be the omega fotm
modern gazelle
next season dungeons are sure something...
hardy snow
2% per bleed in this tier set is pretty low
balmy canyon
Being mid at the start is where you want to be. The best on release are setting themselves up for a nerf
silk pine
we bfa again
it depends on the proc chanche
grand veldt
Being mid at the start is where you want to be. The best on release are setting ...
Based
vestal moat
What / how many bleeds do we have again lol. thunderclap plus thunderous roar and what else
deep wounds?
plush tendon
deep wounds
hardy snow
rend+wounds+roar
sick sentinel
gearing dk bhs begin
grand veldt
Honestly it might be a really big dps upgrade
That tier set consuming bleeds is not insignificant assuming the proc change isnt dog shit
This might mean the prot talents that boost all your bleeds damage is more important too
hardy snow
I like that its spending rage that have chance to proc it, so the better you play - more rage you spend and more procs you get, thats cool
vestal moat
how does it increase our dps assuming the target lives long enough for the original bleeds to have full effect?
hardy snow
This might mean the prot talents that boost all your bleeds damage is more impor...
yea, bloodborne will be must have
hardy snow
how does it increase our dps assuming the target lives long enough for the origi...
it bursts all remaining dmg
grand veldt
Bc you're applying multiple instances and consuming it
hardy snow
and you can apply bleeds again
vestal moat
oh, you can reapply i see that now
grand veldt
Yes
hardy snow
and CDR on roar is cool too
grand veldt
This tier set is actually kind of fucking huge if it procs like 4 times per min
Even 3 times would be good
That would be a lot of self healing
And I wonder what happens with that bleed leech talent
vestal moat
I kind of feel that Arms one would be a good one for prot. a bunch of free thunderclaps, good in m+ and most raid.
grand veldt
If the consume counts as the bleeds damage
hardy snow
If the consume counts as the bleeds damage
consume is just another spell, it shouldnt be affected by bloodborne or thunderous words
sick sentinel
what is blood stone
grand veldt
It depends how its coded
hardy snow
But I wonder if Zandalari troll's bleed will count for this tierset
grand veldt
But yeah probably wont be worth replacing ignore pain
It said it consumed all bleeds
So obscure ones I assume count
hardy snow
It said it consumed all bleeds
and thunderous words increase damage of bleed effects (according to tooltip), yet not zandalari one 😄
brittle willow
does the war tank has as much bleed to make a mechanic around it ? 🤔
hardy snow
does the war tank has as much bleed to make a mechanic around it ? 🤔
we have two bleeds all the time (rend and deep wounds) and additional thunderous roar as cooldown
brittle willow
the 4p seems pretty weak
hardy snow
its power depends on procs rate
brittle willow
and I'm not convinced by the fact that the bleeds removing is on a single target spell
grand veldt
Is ptr already up with the new dungeons?
hardy snow
but i wont be surprised if in first iterations for ST it will be better to have 2x2p XD
grand veldt
Thank God they dropped this shit during sanguine
I've had so little fun in keys this week
toxic pewter
Zero warrior changes in 10.2 lmao, back to hardcore I go… YIKES
lusty grotto
Zero warrior changes in 10.2 lmao, back to hardcore I go… YIKES
we missed u apb!
hope youre having fun in hardcore
toxic pewter
Dude classic wow has rekindled my love for wow
Got to 27 on my warr and died to an elite harpie
I hate harpies
toxic pewter
we missed u apb!
Miss you guys too
chilly brook
IP being changed to what looks like flat 30% HP?
chilly brook
yes but this is per cast
warm plinth
It's not; it's just weird spell data
chilly brook
huh
lusty grotto
are you sure ghash?
kinda reads like it no longer scales with AP and Versa
the cap was always there sure
chilly brook
I mean techically I was wrong and not 30%
it's total times 30/100
looks like a change on how it's calculating cast value
warm plinth
Do you guys realize how broken it would be if every IP we cast gave us a 30% health shield? We would basically have a 50% DR permanently as long as the hit didn't do 60% of our heallth.
lusty grotto
no
thin silo
as with every single patch datamine, do not jump to conclusions based on backend spell data diffs
lusty grotto
thats not what im arguing
chilly brook
Do you guys realize how broken it would be if every IP we cast gave us a 30% hea...
I mean I wouldn't be surprised people are whining about how "bad we are"
chilly brook
as with every single patch datamine, ***do not jump to conclusions based on back...
obviously, nothing matters until it's in game
but it's a weird change
thin silo
it's literally just minor refactor
sick sentinel
is anybody else bdk enjoyert
maiden ravine
oh that warrior tier is actually cool with effects
sick sentinel
where do you go to see effects
sick sentinel
ohh i thought u meant the tier had a visual fx
mighty valley
hmm, the single-targetness of it is the most sketch part
sick sentinel
some kind of animtion
wooden radish
is there a proc rate on the 2pc
lusty grotto
oh shrug
no idea mwahi's cat
announcements just came out today so still a lot figure out
mighty valley
it's interesting that there's such a wide band of interactivity in these
some of them ask you to take specific talent builds and change your priorities etc
then you get fire mage that's like "you do more damage"
ours is zero changes required in single target, and... kind of annoying changes required, maybe, in aoe
slow pawn
Tier seems odd
lusty grotto
oh sweet the legendary is a 2 hander str axe
warm plinth
The prot set seems...awkward
wooden radish
@ionic fern pls respond with 2pc proc rate as soon as you wake up. Pls and Ty
lusty grotto
mwahi your cat needs u
wooden radish
Is this where I tell the story of when I camped you in world PvP back in BFA
wooden radish
Always a pleasure to see you
Howdy
warm plinth
Can you explain something to me Lincoln
wooden radish
Depends
warm plinth
Why are both protection tier sets super fucking awkward
wooden radish
I think all the tank sets are bad
warm plinth
I haven't looked at the rest yet but both prot sets are like...tf?
wooden radish
And my guess is that they want to control tank power creep
wooden radish
The 4pc is bad too. You might have to move during your empowered consecration
And recasting it, replaces it
lusty grotto
is that for prot pally?
warm plinth
yeah
wooden radish
You do play an Orc