protection

[modern gazelle]

and why it is not used

[crude notch]

Nah they've apparently gotten to the "damn the kids" age.

Like 20 years too early though.

[prisma crane]

well all this great research into what helps kids is resulting in.... record levels of failure to meet basic reading expectations?

[crude notch]

Must be a warrior thing.

[lusty tiger]

well if you cant read by the end of 1st grade how will you participate in all the activities that require being able to read in 2nd grade

[prisma crane]

? why you gotta be dismissive?

i never said damn the kids at all

[modern gazelle]

now if you want my honest opinion, expectations for students has tanked in recent years, meanwhile the amount of curriculum we have to cover has increased and student:teacher ratio is abysmal. If you truly want to help students like that you need smaller class sizes, less curriculum, and higher expectations for students

[prisma crane]

i dont disagree with you there

and we get it Jordan, i heard the "warrior" joke twice now

[crude notch]

I just wanted to make sure you knew how to read.

🙂

[prisma crane]

just because someone does not agree with you does not mean they're incapable of critical thinking

[crude notch]

The warrior joke this time was in relation to being boomers

[dusky canopy]

Reading comprehension *

[crude notch]

Not stupid

[prisma crane]

you're the one who missed the context with which Whirlwinning was responding to

apparently 35 is a boomer, damn those goalposts

[lusty tiger]

hi my names jerrod im 19 and i never fkn learned how to read

[crude notch]

Yes I know silly me to go off of the message he QUITE LITERALLY PRESSED RESPOND TO

[prisma crane]

hi jerrod

[dusky canopy]

What is reading?

[prisma crane]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-zoolander-read-school-signage-zoolander-gif-17902099

[lusty tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqCCBohjaqA

[crude notch]

Boomer is a mental state. Y'know like when you start saying get off my lawn at 20, it doesn't matter that you're 20, you're still a boomer for what you said.

[lusty tiger]

mk ultra state of mind

[crude notch]

So go get your walker Gramps

[prisma crane]

again, you're attacking my character instead of what i've been saying, but ok

[crude notch]

Your feelings will be okay

Something something held back a year something something

[crude notch]

You're being dismissive to a literal teacher (Dawn), what is there even to say to you mate?

[prisma crane]

i disagreed with something she said, and then agreed with her follow up

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modern gazelle]

his*

[prisma crane]

my bad!

[crude notch]

Should've been held back. Smh.

((it's a joke. I'll give you a kiss on the head if I hurt your feelers))

[modern gazelle]

you're good i get it a lot, my name is shortened from dawnslicer which was my first wow character in BC lol

not my real name though

[prisma crane]

ahhh, got it

[crude notch]

Better than having the first name Whirl.

Am I right, @dusky canopy ?

Kids these days need more heads dipped in toilets that generation turned out mentally stable.

[lusty tiger]

bullying is pretty important tbh

[uneven mason]

Bruh, hair plays havoc with the water purification systems, think of the environment

[crude notch]

What the fuck did I just read

Ikari are you yogi posting

[uneven mason]

[crude notch]

Huh

[uneven mason]

I haven't had much spare time to shit post so I gotta go for maximum impact

[dusky canopy]

Whirl lives…

Nvm

[crude notch]

Nice

Swirlies

Whirl lives matter.

[dusky canopy]

Whirlies

[crude notch]

Got you baby

[dusky canopy]

[uneven mason]

[crude notch]

I'll fend off the stupid liberals with their fake COVID.

[dusky canopy]

People gotta learn to just not give a shit when they get insulted on the internet

[uneven mason]

[crude notch]

Fuck you pal!

Gottem

[uneven mason]

Chemicals in the water are making people have thinner skin ☑️

Solution, drink gin

[crude notch]

Bruv

Ikari we agree on gin

[lusty tiger]

love a good gin and juice

[modern gazelle]

is there a consensus on how good accelerated sandglass is for us?

[uneven mason]

I found a local brewery that makes everything from rye

Smooth and no hangover like that corn shit

[crude notch]

Some day there needs to be a Skyholdcon so we can all get a drink and watch someone punch me

[lusty tiger]

: D

[dusky canopy]

Gin and juice bro

[uneven mason]

We'd have to hold a lotto, p sure there would be a line

[dusky canopy]

Snoop owns that guys the goat

[crude notch]

There would be

[dusky canopy]

Literally my profile banner

[lusty tiger]

LMFAO

[crude notch]

Nice banner

[dusky canopy]

Yodizzle nizzle

[uneven mason]

He also owns a vineyard

[dusky canopy]

[modern gazelle]

?

[lusty tiger]

snoop lion

[crude notch]

Mine is Qwik questioning me having 14 druids

[uneven mason]

14warriors

[crude notch]

See he'd approve of that

[uneven mason]

Had 13 but got sued by Disney

[crude notch]

https://twitter.com/Fleks27/status/1696593544662729097?t=8rFUuZRg8P-Blvnmdk8xHg&s=19

Flêks (@Fleks27)

Rotationbot bans went out and this is the first raid of scripe and gingi after, do i need to say more?

Disgusting.

Twitter · Aug 29, 2023, 6:39 PM

Fleks shitposts are the best.

[uneven mason]

[lusty tiger]

🫡

[strong forum]

twitter shitposting is its own special skill

[lusty tiger]

coach nome when

[strong forum]

i cant coach shitposting

[lusty tiger]

ur name

https://tenor.com/view/water-boy-coach-visualize-and-attack-gif-14018747

[crude notch]

He totally had way too many people believing that he got banned in the rotationbot wave

[modern gazelle]

wasn't there literally an argument the other day about ignoring actual warrior questions? this channel has devolved into idle chat lately.

[crude notch]

Sorry Dawn I don't know the answer

[lusty tiger]

sim

against what youve got

[crude notch]

I'm dumb

[strong forum]

sandglass is good in aoe and decently good in ST

[crude notch]

I'm just here so I don't get fined

[strong forum]

but ultimate answer is just sim

[modern gazelle]

i have simmed it, but last i heard sandglass and other new trinkets dont sim properly, like mirror always sims well but its trash

[strong forum]

mirror is a 3min CD for 20sec of 3k stats

deem that as you will

:shrugeg

[dusky canopy]

Should I vanish after ambush in the opener?

[uneven mason]

Sorry I have no experience with that trinket, I could give an answer but I was told is

[strong forum]

irideous fragment also sims well but lmao 3min CD to lose 50% of the trinkets effect during burst

[lusty tiger]

🧌

[strong forum]

3min CD are just not good trinkets for tanks

[crude notch]

I like your pfp

[lusty tiger]

good pfp

[modern gazelle]

how are you simming for dungeons? If i do 5 boss 1:30 vs dungeon splice vs 5 boss 10min i get vastly diff sims

[uneven mason]

I told the AI to draw a toxic bear face

[strong forum]

1t 3min lust
5t 1.5min no lust
10t 40sec lust

[modern gazelle]

like 1:30 5 boss makes vial of animated blood insanely good

[crude notch]

Fitting

[strong forum]

then draw your conclusion

if you want sustained aoe, sim 6-10 target 5-8minutes

[crude notch]

JK I love you ikari

[strong forum]

but what matters most in m+

is ST dmg

so a good ST setup is also just good enough

going for max aoe setup is just padding meters

and not doing effective dmg

[uneven mason]

I occasionally have to fill in as the snarky but informative toxic bear in dreamgrove when Crom is being lazy

[crude notch]

People I dislike in this discord:

• || Made you look ||

People I like in the discord:

• everyone else

[strong forum]

cro is like a hound dog

[lusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-dog-fox-and-the-hound-sniff-gif-13972508

[crude notch]

He's something that's for sure. Gotta have a special tolerance.

[strong forum]

hes also famous for macroing bubble wand after FD

[uneven mason]

Not many can beat me on the sarcasm trigger for the "less intellectual" questions

[strong forum]

which depleted our halls 25 in SL

and cost us a wowhead article

:angy:

[lusty tiger]

bubble wand?

[strong forum]

yeah

[crude notch]

Lol

[lusty tiger]

5tank?

[strong forum]

ye

[lusty tiger]

still dont know what bubble wand is

[strong forum]

wod toy

that casts bubbles for 5seconds

but it stops auto attacks, and if you macro it after FD, it stops FD aswell

[crude notch]

Why did he. NVM Cro things

[strong forum]

yes

dw for all the bullying he does in class discords he gets back in our own

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1103239167720300544.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[lusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-bubble-viralhog-soap-bubble-desert-gif-23113760

[lusty tiger]

step by step guide on using bubbles when you're little:

1. spill them

[waxen frigate]

Jordan hates me

[crude notch]

Lol yeah I've seen meyra give him a lot of shit which is probably 1/100th what you lot give him in Bear Troupe

Took me for ever to remember what it's called.

[crude notch]

How you been buddy how was your week?

[uneven mason]

Still waiting for my invite to the cool kids discord so I can snipe their bearmojies

[waxen frigate]

I thought bear troupe was public

I might be confusing it with a different discord tho

[strong forum]

it was only public for when we figured out the dragon trinket

forgot the name

[crude notch]

I snuck my way in there for the whelpling testing

[waxen frigate]

Ok yeah that was when

I was gonna say I think late last year I remember seeing an invite link

[crude notch]

After they made it their life's mission to make sure I didn't get an invite.

[waxen frigate]

I might’ve joined then left I don’t remember

[crude notch]

Because I stole the emotes.

[strong forum]

we kicked all of em after we were kinda done

[dusky canopy]

Yo this cat is awesome

[crude notch]

Kanga just ignored me straight up. How rude

[waxen frigate]

The tank cabal discord

The deep state

[strong forum]

not just tanks at this point

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1103239167720300544.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[dusky canopy]

Man I want to be in the cool kids discord

[waxen frigate]

I wouldn’t know

[dusky canopy]

Rip

[strong forum]

ruling the class discords from the shadows

[waxen frigate]

One day I’ll be purple in peak

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1103239170434011177.webp?size=96&quality=lossless https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1103239173571346522.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[waxen frigate]

Unless it has official responsibilities then fuck no lmaooo

[strong forum]

damn doesnt work

[waxen frigate]

(Unless I get to take over the wowhead guide from ll*rold)

[strong forum]

most responsibilities of having a special colour only rly come with mod

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[crude notch]

did you just put a star in there so it can't be searched?

[waxen frigate]

Ya moderation is something I will never do again for any sized community

[crude notch]

smh

lil pussy ass bish

[waxen frigate]

I was a community officer for a huge RP community in swtor/eso

Never again man

[crude notch]

I was a Growl mod and a Celluxies mod and that was enough for my lifetime.

[waxen frigate]

Egirl mod

[uneven mason]

Playing swtor

[waxen frigate]

[waxen frigate]

Lmao

[strong forum]

im too nice to be a mod

[dusky canopy]

Modding a server does not sound fun honestly

[crude notch]

I really hate that you've ended up nicer than me the more I've spent time in here.

[strong forum]

get outskilled

[uneven mason]

Jordan is going through the Nexii cycle

[crude notch]

Whoa

I'm not 50

chill

[waxen frigate]

Wait Jordan do you think it’s better or worse now after her break/reboot

[crude notch]

And I'm like the nicest person in the world outside of class discords

[waxen frigate]

I’d imagine it has to be worse

[uneven mason]

Eventually you'll become so bitter that you're going to appear nice just because you run out of fucks to give

[strong forum]

hey thats me

[waxen frigate]

And growl… you’re dealing with M+ shitter Andys

That’s just gotta be perma bad

[strong forum]

ive been way too aggressive about dumb spellblock discourse

for no reason

[uneven mason]

Splock

[waxen frigate]

The brew civil war broke me for class discords

[strong forum]

like its just fucking bloodsurge

[waxen frigate]

I’m only aggressive towards people who try to start shit now

[crude notch]

I hang out in MW chat the most now.

[uneven mason]

Hey nom, I pressed spell block but it didn't work

[strong forum]

unluck queue next

[waxen frigate]

And when shitposting in class discords I don’t play (like this one)

[waxen frigate]

Never been there tbh

[dusky canopy]

What other class discords have as good of convo as this one

[crude notch]

I've been a lot less chatty everywhere this month.

[waxen frigate]

Idk any mistweavers except Meg and Abe and idk if Abe plays

[waxen frigate]

Same. Mood swings been wild

[dusky canopy]

I’m fairly confident this is the best chat

[waxen frigate]

And acro but I have no idea if he’s even in peak

[crude notch]

Abe doesn't hang in that chat, he hangs in Meg's discord though

[uneven mason]

Because revenge isn't 360

[strong forum]

ive seen people say warri discord is among the worst so anything goes

[waxen frigate]

I did keys with Meg at the start of the xpac and that’s my entire experience with the MW community lmao

[crude notch]

Charts and then My brother has made this month a rollercoaster frfr

[waxen frigate]

Yea

[dusky canopy]

That’s because “we’re not very friendly” right

[modern gazelle]

so are you mainly choosing raid trinkets?

[waxen frigate]

I don’t have any reasons for mine I’m just unstable

[waxen frigate]

Ok tbf

[strong forum]

anvil + bacon

[uneven mason]

Did they come in talking about how they have more CE than God?

[waxen frigate]

There are some flaws

🙂

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/taylorswift-taylor-swift-gif-23764761

[strong forum]

fuck if i know when or who they talked to

[dusky canopy]

Some warriors I’ve come across where we’ve randomly discussed something in skyhold have stated they’re not a fan of arch because of how blunt he is

[strong forum]

i cant talk about the dps sections

[crude notch]

Arch is a gem

[strong forum]

i steer away from dps cords

[dusky canopy]

I like arch though he doesn’t give a shit he says what he has too

[crude notch]

Just don't talk about mog

[waxen frigate]

Arch banned me for talking about transmog

So

[crude notch]

LMAO

Still the best ban I've seen in a discord

[strong forum]

dps players are something else man

[waxen frigate]

Tbh bronpep’s ban from r/WoW is amazing

[strong forum]

xephs ban in acherus is better

[dusky canopy]

Bro banned you for talking about TMOG

[waxen frigate]

Lmao I’m not even like

Exaggerating

Or framing it

[dusky canopy]

Nome if I get myself banned in arch’s chat for purposely discussing tmog will you un ban me?

[waxen frigate]

I even tried to defuse the convo multiple times

[crude notch]

On god,

Brew said, Imma go start shit about mog

[modern gazelle]

seems like my 447 anvil+447 dargrul is beating my 447 anvil+441 bacon in ST

[dusky canopy]

Quite literally yes Jordan

[waxen frigate]

Well specifically it was about making SMF into just a mog option instead of a talent

Because there was a discussion about SMF

[uneven mason]

You remember arch back in bfa beta? Had the paddles out back then

[strong forum]

keep in mind mark can miss alot

and bacon's dmg profile is preferrable in some keys

[dusky canopy]

Yes arch is hilarious dude he just shits on anybody and everybody who questions him

It’s fantastic reading

[waxen frigate]

Meanwhile I’m just the punching bag of peak

[modern gazelle]

ah fair, ima re sim and see based on the aoe stuff

[strong forum]

someone has to 🔫

[dusky canopy]

Last thing I saw out of him was when he called some random doing 16s a “nobody” and that guy was flipping his lid

[south zealot]

why is my shit on cooldown for 241 days

[strong forum]

but i know of someone whos a bigger punching bag

[dusky canopy]

I wish I could find it I’d share it here

[crude notch]

Deserved

[crude notch]

You're about to get the email saying you're banned you filthy rotationbot user

[south zealot]

they check my pc everything is normally :))

[crude notch]

Is Avocado the all time punching bag?

[waxen frigate]

Bro the rotation bot discourse was insane on Twitter

[strong forum]

avocado is gone since SL

mid-early SL

[waxen frigate]

It’s actually so funny to me that like the lore/RP-centric casual accounts are so toxic

[dusky canopy]

Holup

[waxen frigate]

While claiming to be anti toxicity

[dusky canopy]

People using rotation bot in bleeding edge content???

[median tulip]

rotation bot? as in hekilli etc?

[dusky canopy]

Am I understanding that correctly?

[strong forum]

thats what randoms are claiming

without proof

[waxen frigate]

There’s been zero evidence

[crude notch]

no

[waxen frigate]

That anyone of any note

Was banned for it

Fleks joked about it and the typical WoW Twitter Andy’s jumped on it

Like the ironkeg guy

[crude notch]

That was quality

[waxen frigate]

Portersomething

[south zealot]

allegedly some "high ranking guilds disbanded" bc too many of their members were using rotation bots

[waxen frigate]

Etc

[south zealot]

according to a post on reddit

[dusky canopy]

LOLOLOL

[median tulip]

People still use Twitter?

[dusky canopy]

People will stoop to such a low level to validate themselves

[waxen frigate]

Like it’s genuinely so funny that they act like anyone with CE is some fascist coming to wipe casuals from existence

[strong forum]

no, its X now :kapp:

[waxen frigate]

When that’s really just thd

[modern gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f8VeCCeiG77CfJuFMskUig

[median tulip]

I'm clearly missing something that happened

[modern gazelle]

1t 3min lust

[dusky canopy]

“Ahh, it must be that I don’t use a rotation bot. that’s why I can’t do CE”

[crude notch]

https://twitter.com/Fleks27/status/1694341246766940422?s=20

Flêks (@Fleks27)

uh...

Likes

514

Twitter · Aug 23, 2023, 1:30 PM

Fleks posted that picture

[strong forum]

yeah but then you gotta remember, that anvil will be at 5 stacks for most of the dungeon

so the sim doesnt reflect it properly

unless you override anvil stacks to 5

[uneven mason]

Old school EverQuest mentality, top guild was literally lead by Furor

[crude notch]

a lot of trolls didn't actually look at the picture of the ban note

((From WoD btw))

[modern gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tgpxqGsnHeWFtFsUaxVYcd

[waxen frigate]

It’s so funny people continue to take Fleks posts seriously

They’re all shutposts

[modern gazelle]

5t 1.5min no lust

[waxen frigate]

Always

[strong forum]

just default to anvil + X

[crude notch]

https://vxtwitter.com/Fleks27/status/1696514530107433129?s=20

hello

embed

[dusky canopy]

Anvil + Twitter owns

[strong forum]

i had a good run today where beacon did over 8k dps in FH and anvil did 5.2k dps

[dusky canopy]

[median tulip]

I run Anvil + OCE

[south zealot]

is that a real npc

[waxen frigate]

Like… lmao

[strong forum]

in my best run anvil did fucking 7.5k dps

[south zealot]

wtf lol

[strong forum]

in FH

[median tulip]

Only 441 though

[modern gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3f1VE2oZ3C7qtETbCUSJt5

10t 40s lust

[south zealot]

who is this guy lol

[modern gazelle]

im a god with anvil though lol, i keep 5 stacks fully through almost every dungeon

i learned all the tricks

[strong forum]

[waxen frigate]

Toxic WoW Twitter user

[dusky canopy]

This is all because one person memes about being banned in the wave for rotation botting

LUL

[crude notch]

yep

it's so funny

[modern gazelle]

FH is tough cause goin across bridge cuts it close, same with Nelth Lair but if you hit the fish it saves stacks

[waxen frigate]

Who has an insane victim complex

[strong forum]

bridge is easy

stay in combat with the target dummy

[south zealot]

are they any good at the game or no

[strong forum]

then extend on bridge

and you gucci

[median tulip]

The trick in Freehold is to kite packs backwards over the bridge so it doesn't drop

[modern gazelle]

i do, heroic leap across to bridge too

[strong forum]

then you should have more than enough time

also worn doll

gets you a free extension

once every 20minutes

[south zealot]

cheating

-1

[modern gazelle]

yeah if you do it alright, sometimes boss positioning i forget right towards end and you get down to like 2s

[waxen frigate]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say barely plays if at all

[strong forum]

target dummy

or do you mean first bridge

[modern gazelle]

nah 2nd

[strong forum]

then just hit target dummy

for as long as you can

[crude notch]

don't hit me

pls

[modern gazelle]

i changed route to not go on that path now though, i go straight down middle

so target dummy doesnt help as much anymore

[strong forum]

middle?

bruh what

[modern gazelle]

after 2nd boss i go straight down mid to 3rd

instead of right side

[strong forum]

bruh you go left side

[crude notch]

👀

[modern gazelle]

left???

[crude notch]

ye

[modern gazelle]

why would you left?

[crude notch]

left is the sauce

[modern gazelle]

link route

[waxen frigate]

Also he tweets literally like a dozen times a day

[proper roost]

theres several less harpooners on the left

[median tulip]

I go middle

[proper roost]

and you avoid two ogres that way

middle is like objectively the worst path

[modern gazelle]

orge are easy?

[median tulip]

The Ogres are fine

[proper roost]

ngl

[modern gazelle]

they do nothing

you can literally chain ogres with boss if you wanted even they dont do damge lol even on fort

[median tulip]

They only do physical, I don't care

[strong forum]

this is WF route

[waxen frigate]

Actually dozen is a massive understatement

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1133548924020461568/1133549036281004173/image.png

this is pug route

[median tulip]

I mean, none of the bosses in Freehold do all that much damage

[modern gazelle]

pug that involves skipping packs with invis?

[median tulip]

The gun lady on second boss a little bit, but only if you don't position yourself quick enough

[strong forum]

high key pug route*

my route is fucked

cuz i only do weekly keys

i just run it down

overcount like a chad here and there

[grim pilot]

ye u have to have mass invis/pri for that

[dusky canopy]

I think I’ve held W for almost every key this season

[strong forum]

like my route is BFA route basically

[strong forum]

which is more than enough

[sick sentinel]

uhhhh is okay i guess

[strong forum]

until decently high keys

[proper roost]

saying the ogres are easy so you pull them is like

a wildly weird dented take

like you know inherently that sometimes you don't do easy mobs because their hp % is inefficient right

[sick sentinel]

i got more trinkets than i know what to do with now

[south zealot]

what are the ogres?

crushers?

[proper roost]

and if that's your argument then harpooners exist who are not easy at all because they literally oneshot people in not even that high of keys, and there are like 3 harpooners going down the middle

[grim pilot]

they're a little inefficient with melee comp but with ranged it's not that bad

[crude notch]

Did all the VDHs quit?

Or finally accept Bear supremacy?

[modern gazelle]

this is my pug route

[sick sentinel]

i got all those for trinkets

[crude notch]

Oh here you go lovelies. https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/status/1696379258321396177

Jordan (@bansheeirl)

Tanks and Healers breakdown, going all the way back to Legion 7.2.

Legion had a fairly small sample size, but even in seasons where M+ was fresh and new, it had distinct metas.

As always, Data Source: @RaiderIO_WoW

Twitter · Aug 29, 2023, 4:28 AM

[modern gazelle]

ends up being 102% cause of enforcer on 1st bridge, without that enforcer you can bring it down to 100%

[proper roost]

There's one harpooner in the north pack of 7, one in the west pack of 8, and one in the west pack of 9

Your route is bad

[waxen frigate]

Did vdhs ever really exist or were they just flavor of the week

[proper roost]

One of them might be 2 harpooners actually idr exactly

[grim pilot]

2 afaik ye

[crude notch]

There that worked

[dusky canopy]

I dig this a lot when you post these

[grim pilot]

in 8

[modern gazelle]

i never have harpooners kill people idk

[crude notch]

[grim pilot]

the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

[strong forum]

Today I learned my face is almost symmetrical

[waxen frigate]

Can’t relate

[lusty tiger]

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[proper roost]

yeh these people are like "this dumb mage keeps dying on freehold what an idiot"

Meanwhile they're getting spam oneshot by harpooners dragged into unavoidable giant aoe

[modern brook]

I'm trying my best 😦

[lusty tiger]

my favorite

[dusky canopy]

Mages and dying in the same sentence

That’s odd

[strong forum]

Bro the horrors I've seen today

When pugging a few keys to farm crests...

Quite something

[lusty tiger]

D:

[proper roost]

i hate pug tanks who clearly havent played any other role and pull like it

[modern brook]

Augvoker killed pugging

[dusky canopy]

I’ve honestly been raid logging, BG3 is so addicting

I don’t want it to end

But I know it will

[strong forum]

Not below 20s

[modern brook]

Everyone thinks they can do keys 7 higher than their skill levels allow

[strong forum]

I did 16-18s

Cuz im 240 crests behind

[crude notch]

Wdym, of course I can do 35s.

[waxen frigate]

Augvoker killed the entire tier

[modern brook]

Yeah cause u have talent

[strong forum]

Im sitting on 4 sparks but man, healers in that range really can't heal bursting

[dusky canopy]

World first is 32 so I definitely can do 28s ez

[modern gazelle]

i mean i literally never have people dying on those pulls

FH goes smooth for me almost every time tbh, if it doesnt wipe cause of butt pulls then its good usually

[waxen frigate]

Dorki said a 29 is easy. So all my teammates are bad. That’s why I can’t do easy content

But I could do 32s easily.

It’s just my team

[sick sentinel]

some of them can, some of them can't

[modern gazelle]

almost all my FH wipes are just random butt pulls from someone

[waxen frigate]

Anyway hold my beer watch this route I saw on naowh’s stream

[dusky canopy]

I could do 32s if my hand was held

[crude notch]

The job as tank is to make it easier for the other 4 in the group. That includes what you pull. You might not have people dying, but you ARE having people harpooned which in itself at very bare minimum reduces damage done by casters in this scenario.

[sick sentinel]

if i know shits about to throw down big bursting at end of fight, just turn on dstance and IP and potion or whatever

[modern brook]

I could do 32s if I was better at the game

[dusky canopy]

Stop being honest

Damnit!

Blame everyone else

[waxen frigate]

Job as the tank is to maximize group Dps while ensuring survival of all involved

[strong forum]

I finished it 2 days ago and now I'm just in existential dread

[modern brook]

Play boomer fortnite with me 🙂

[strong forum]

Lmao no

[waxen frigate]

No build?

[modern gazelle]

the other route that normeratur posted has multipel orsement that end up killing people more often though?

[crude notch]

I've been playing || HC ||

[modern gazelle]

like that shit always fucks upeople up

[modern brook]

Team fortress 2

[south zealot]

im doing keys

:3

[strong forum]

I did 5 keys today

[crude notch]

I'm annoyed at how much I'm enjoying HC

[strong forum]

And they just made me feel worse

[waxen frigate]

Did you play on the right faction and server (mine)

[median tulip]

BfA S4 <3
I miss those days

[crude notch]

I swapped to Defias Alliance

[waxen frigate]

It’s joever

Idk how tf

[modern brook]

I was gunna do hc but then I realized if have to install wow (again) and said it ain't worth it

[waxen frigate]

My friends decided on skull rock

And the rest of the world went Defias

[modern gazelle]

@south zealot whats your pug route? for a 22-25 key level

FH

[waxen frigate]

I mean it’s like 5gb

[crude notch]

Yeah mine was 1gb lol

[south zealot]

i just go through middle

[modern brook]

5gbs I'll never get back 😭

[south zealot]

if ppl die unlcuky

[modern brook]

I thought it was more

[waxen frigate]

You can delete it

[modern brook]

Wasn't it originally a totally seperate install when they first split into classic?

[waxen frigate]

It is a separate install

lol

[median tulip]

They existed for the oh-so-fucking-wonderful kite meta of SLS1 /s

[south zealot]

im doing dps keys now tho

[waxen frigate]

It’s just a 20 year old game

[crude notch]

Nah it shares bits

[waxen frigate]

So it’s… only a few gigabytes

[modern brook]

Ah yeah true and real

[waxen frigate]

Even then they weren’t nearly as dominant as any of the last 3 tiers

[proper roost]

based

[sick sentinel]

i always thought about getting that pirate ship mount

[proper roost]

did you realize that dps warrior is more meta and easier to get into keys than prot lmao @south zealot

i realized that at the start of the season

and was like welp sucks for prot

[sick sentinel]

they removing it from store rotation

[modern gazelle]

lol

[crude notch]

I'm thinking of doing a piece with RIO about the release of title and the impact on meta slaving.

Because last season was "balanced" as long as you were healer.

[dusky canopy]

Yes I’m so bummed that it’ll eventually end

I’ve been poking around intentionally stressing all dialogue and searching every area to the fullest to make it last just a bit longer haha

[modern gazelle]

Isn’t the whole point of BG3 to make new characters and follow a different path. There are like 17000 endings

[uneven mason]

Remember when games had only one ending

[crude notch]

?

[crude notch]

games have had multiple endings for like 30 years little chief.

[strong forum]

I don't replay games

[crude notch]

replay dn

[uneven mason]

Asteroids didn't

Break out my wood paneling Atari 2600

Complete with b&w or color toggle

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR6B-xieOUQ

[modern gazelle]

but are you really replaying if you do completely different actions throughout the entire story?

[strong forum]

Yes

[modern gazelle]

like there are some set paths in that game but lots of different choices throughout that change everything

[strong forum]

The exploration is gone

You know the plot

You know the places

[modern gazelle]

rip, i personally dont care about plot/lore i just like gameplay

[strong forum]

I like the exploration of games like bg3

[uneven mason]

It's ok, starfield drops in 2.5 days

[strong forum]

Yeah I don't like skyrim or fallout

So starfield ain't gonna interest me any more

I played both fallout 4 and skyrim for like 10hrs tops

Before I just dropped em

[dusky canopy]

Ahh that’s to bad man.. for me star field will hopefully fill the void just a bit longer

[strong forum]

Work will fill my void

[uneven mason]

Front to back probably enough time to finish the main story if you focused it

TFW I have over 1000hours on Skyrim

Because mods

[strong forum]

I dislike mods that aren't just UI

If you rely on mods to make your game good, it's not a good game

[dusky canopy]

You don’t like Thomas the train flying around in Skyrim instead of dragons?

[strong forum]

Yes

That's garbage

[dusky canopy]

No I agree I intended sarcasm

[strong forum]

It's funny for a second

[uneven mason]

Oh I beat the main game first, some mods are full conversion

[dusky canopy]

I enjoy mods like that as video content, however it is not very entertaining in my own game

That’s just me though

[strong forum]

Nah idk im fucked in what I like

And mods are just not it, only mods I tolerate are graphic enhancements or UI like in wow

In DoS2 I used a mod for my 2nd proper play through to add more classes, but they just end up majorly overpowered so we had to go again

Was just too dumb, had to take smth more sensible

Ended up with just being a thorns necromancer tank, that leeched for more than he did dmg

[dusky canopy]

Intended design right

[strong forum]

The only thing the mod did was allow me to past the necromancy cap of 20

To like 22, to get over leech

Rest was pretty much vanilla

[glass shuttle]

Hey everyone! Don't want to run into an existing convo, but I got a question on Pwar stats, since the last time I talked about it, I got a bit more knowledge

So far I spotted a lot of top warriors running Haste > Crit > Mastery > Vers, and the main argument is that Vers in the long run brings less to the table than crit in a dungeon.

[dusky canopy]

Shoot hoss

We’re here to help

[strong forum]

Correct

[dusky canopy]

You need more Vers than we can get to make a reasonable difference defensively and Crit provides more damage

So the choice is clear

[glass shuttle]

Damn, so the pins in this channel need updating 4sure, as well as the wowhead guide.

[strong forum]

?

[dusky canopy]

Vers is = to Crit that isn’t wrong

[strong forum]

It's not that deep

[glass shuttle]

Well every streamer in the recommended section I checked out runs mastery over vers

Maybe i'm thinking too much about stats

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[grim pilot]

you're overthinking it

[strong forum]

Stats are complimentary, not vital to your success

[glass shuttle]

Well, I need to know what gear to craft and what stats to take, sort of

[dusky canopy]

Most of us are all Crit/haste

You can also sim crafted items with different missives it may surprise you with what it wants you to pick

[glass shuttle]

Could you recommend me a tool for that?

[dusky canopy]

As an example my sim wants Mastery gems when that’s my least favorable stat

[strong forum]

The primary reason why I put it as >= is so people don't lose their panties when they hear about crit being better than vers

[dusky canopy]

But because I have zero mastery from gear

The sim values it more

[dusky canopy]

“Raidbots”

[glass shuttle]

Last time I checked, I couldn't sim all of my gear for free

Against everything

[dusky canopy]

If you don’t want to buy the subscription you manually do them one or two at a time

[glass shuttle]

Yuck

[crude notch]

jokes on you i'm not wearing any, anyways.

[dusky canopy]

Respectfully, if that isn’t worth your time you don’t need to concern yourself with perfectly optimal stats

[crude notch]

Pick the secondary you like the most.

There

Problem solved

[strong forum]

For crafted pieces you can go haste/crit or haste/vers it's up to you personally

Crit will offer a bit more advantage offensively and defensively overall

Vers will offer baseline dmg reduction

[glass shuttle]

Lol you really got me

But it's only 5 bucks

Thought it was expensive

[strong forum]

You don't need raidbots Premium, just follow the generic stat prio

And youre Gucci

[dusky canopy]

I pay the premium but I’m also a filthy min max whore

I’m weird

[glass shuttle]

Aren't all of us a bit weird?

[dusky canopy]

And as nome said

[glass shuttle]

It's just a liiiitlle much to wrap my head around given the amount of items and combinations in the game, but I am trying lol

[dusky canopy]

You do not need it at all

[glass shuttle]

Thank you though

[strong forum]

It's rly not that deep

[dusky canopy]

Just go Crit/haste everywhere and forget about it

You will succeed

[glass shuttle]

I am not going to replace my stones for haste/vers i bought yesterday.

no

lol

[dusky canopy]

Not maintaining block will hurt you way more than missing a certain % of a stat

For example

[glass shuttle]

Well, I thought that goes w/o question

[dusky canopy]

This is perfectly fine

[crude notch]

The more time you spend on focusing about that 400 vers v. 400 crit, the less you're playing the actual game.

[dusky canopy]

I should make a Vers/mastery set and do a round of 20s to see how it plays out

[south zealot]

dont worry u can focus on it while in queue

[crude notch]

[dusky canopy]

HAHA literally

[crude notch]

wouldn't know, i'm a bear.

[dusky canopy]

Que boss frfr

[crude notch]

no queue no prob

[dusky canopy]

Just don’t log in for anything but raid

No problem

[glass shuttle]

Could you elaborate?

[crude notch]

lmao

[dusky canopy]

Oh I’m just memeing my dude

[glass shuttle]

Riiight...

[crude notch]

I'm getting anxious for you at this point.

Like it ain't that big bro.

Just slam on whatever gear you want and game

[glass shuttle]

I prefer to read and learn before doing

[crude notch]

I read "Stats don't matter" then do

[dusky canopy]

That’s perfectly fine, the tldr is any stat on the highest ilvl piece of gear you have will work.
After that Crit/haste is the general best option that our theorycrafter has figured out for us.
and after that you sim your gear to min max to the fullest.

[crude notch]

That theorycrafter is smelly tho, whatdo?

((This is a joke Nome smells wonderful))

[loud osprey]

So we are looking for Crit/Haste when looking at equal ilvl pieces? Then sim to see if our dps can be improved further?

[dusky canopy]

Nailed it

[crude notch]

BIG

[loud osprey]

Awesome thank you. Just wanted to verify.

[dusky canopy]

You’re very welcome

[crude notch]

Brew SF when?

[dusky canopy]

I’m not in the bleeding edge bracket I don’t qualify

[sick sentinel]

wait why is nome sitting on 4 + sparks

[crude notch]

no play

[sick sentinel]

thats 2 full 447 2h

[strong forum]

i got 4 sparks this week

i didnt play wow since d4 release

[crude notch]

he hates wow

[sick sentinel]

o

[strong forum]

but im washed

in todays runs i didnt get r1 parses

:sad:

[sick sentinel]

next week im done with crafting

only meme stuff after that

[dusky canopy]

I tried running a key in m+ spec(arms) Sunday I felt like I was on a new class

Lol

That’s what happens when you raid log

[sick sentinel]

does a mana potion share same CD as health

[dusky canopy]

I’ve literally never used one but I would assume so yes

[sick sentinel]

im looking at alcaritous alch stone and its "combat potions", someone says it works for mana potions, so, should work for health potions if those are same?

[strong forum]

Health, mana and dmg potions are all seperate CDs iirc

Not sure about mana potion not sharing CD with health pot as I don't play classes with mana

But my educated guess would assume so

[proper roost]

Mana and damage/stat potions are shared

[strong forum]

Oh

[crude notch]

Pour one out for the cats

[proper roost]

I'm a cat

[cursive jacinth]

is Anvil any good for us in M+? I have a choice between Mark of Dargul, Anvil and horn.....sim says dargul and anil

[urban portal]

Anvil is very rough in m+

[strong forum]

It is pretty much the best dps trinket in m+ but can be a hassle to maintain

Takes a bit to learn how to keep all stacks throughout the entire dungeon

[cursive jacinth]

gotcah

Thanks all

[vocal nimbus]

hi hi

im having a bit of a problem with p2 sarkareth mythic

dunno how/what should be done with the increased damage debuff from the add

[lusty grotto]

they need to die fast

[vocal nimbus]

ye but one debuff goes through anyways

who should pick it

[undone verge]

p2 sark on a vdh is scary

but on the pwar I SW the second set, natty the first, and SpellB the second just to not have to deal with sark slash as much

[modern gazelle]

do we run spell block on mythic echo?

[vocal nimbus]

no

[modern gazelle]

k, progging it for first time tomorrow, any tips?

[vocal nimbus]

boring for tanks

[modern gazelle]

joining guild that has already started prog on it so i have wa set up

[vocal nimbus]

phase 3 ask for bop when debuffed

[modern gazelle]

bop macro cancel?

[vocal nimbus]

you will have to break walls in p1 and p2

[hardy snow]

and dont ask for it before he starts casting

[vocal nimbus]

pay attention to waht your guild wants you to break

[modern gazelle]

yeah they have the WA and markers all set up

just stand in right spot and break as few as possible

[vocal nimbus]

ideally you get 1 stack

but sometimes it gets wonky and you surf the walls

[hardy snow]

in p1 break the wall so that taller spike is closer to middle, you can drag boss closer to the spot so you dont run through multi walls, in p2 break at crossing of two walls

[modern gazelle]

wdym crossing of 2 walls

like where 2 walls pass through eachother

perpendicularish?

[lavish sphinx]

Is there a crit cap?

[south zealot]

sim ur gear

no set number ur looking for

[sand drum]

hey guys
going over my wowanalyzer of experiments mythic (prog still), and it tells me to spell reflect ? can provide link if you want :>

[lusty grotto]

yes?

SR is 20% magic damage reduction

[sand drum]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/ATxrt1LjMJWwzPdR/35-Mythic+The+Forgotten+Experiments+-+Wipe+20+(3:34)/Warrbuzz/standard/overview

[south zealot]

u use it for the dr

[sand drum]

is there any moments to press it or just blast it off cd ?

[south zealot]

not to reflect anything specific

[lusty grotto]

you use it for the DR

[south zealot]

when u have stacks

[jagged pier]

Well yes u take permenant magic damage pretty much why wouldnt u sr?

[lusty grotto]

also

abelito hasnt finished working on it

[sand drum]

true

aah

[crude notch]

but still

Like

[lusty grotto]

but its good advice

[sand drum]

thx guys :>

[crude notch]

That is absolutely irrelevant to the question being asked

if you don't press SR on that fight you're just trolling

[lusty grotto]

its up every 30s, and it lasts for 5s, its good damage reduction for stacks

and its free

[crude notch]

Especially when it comes to preventing you from being dead 13.89% of the fight.

[sand drum]

yep

thx for taking your time guys 😄

well my original thought was if there was something secret to reflect for more dmg 😄 but then I just send it off cd when I have stacks 😄

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[strong forum]

Rule of thumb in raid is, you can't reflect something

Just use it as magic mit

[pallid quiver]

that's why raid sucks

[hardy snow]

some things are deflectable in current raid

[lusty grotto]

thats why he said rule of thumb

amalgamation is one thing

[hardy snow]

and bombs on sark, but in p1 they dont do much dmg anyway

[lusty grotto]

and/or adds on broodkeeper

[hardy snow]

in previous raid there was cool sr on Dathea

[lusty grotto]

yeah adds are mostly reflectable for the most part

[hardy snow]

nah, Dathea's cast when you are out of range

[lusty grotto]

ah yes

[hardy snow]

it wasnt big dmg like on some bosses in dungs this season, but it was cool

[lusty grotto]

im so confused

wat

[tall tusk]

[crude notch]

yeah bitch carry more

[tall tusk]

parsing on trash is underrated

[strong forum]

I mean I yell in voice at people if they afk on trash but that's mostly just bants

[lusty grotto]

bro

i just

cant

[crude notch]

peepeelaff

[lusty grotto]

fuck it

[strong forum]

50k?

Nim trnya lowball

Smh

[lusty grotto]

lol

gotta start low

[strong forum]

Somebody wanted to buy socketed mythic eragon ring off of me for like 300k last season

[lusty grotto]

i just dont wanna do this heroic shit

[strong forum]

And I was like bruh aintnoway below 2mil

[lusty grotto]

nimchipadin got too lucky with beacons

and then 0 luck on anvil

lol

😢

theyre doing ok, i guess so no big deal

[sick sentinel]

i got another dragul so i give it to warrior in my group

[modern gazelle]

bro why is ulda timer so tight

i swear even without wipes its so hard to time

[warm plinth]

Is it? I never found it to be that bad

[south zealot]

depends how u pull i feel

[warm plinth]

Like an absolute demon, of course

[modern gazelle]

whats your route

cause i do double, sometimes triple pulls but even then it takes SO LONG to get through the dungeon

[warm plinth]

idk if I have the patience to deal with the laggy ass keystone.guru right now

[lusty grotto]

its tyrannical week

of course it feels tight

FIVE tyrannical bosses

its the dungeon with the largest amount of bosses

[modern gazelle]

sucks cause first 3 bosses went quick, then 4th was okay not great, 2 died but got revived

then it was out of time already though

[lusty grotto]

kinda feels like they didnt though

thats gonna take all of your timer

what was the kill time on most of them?

[modern gazelle]

idk tbh id have to check

took forever to get to 4th boss

[lusty grotto]

yeah those are splits

[modern gazelle]

i dont know the kill time

[lusty grotto]

i cant remember at the moment what my splits are

[warm plinth]

https://keystone.guru/route/uldaman-legacy-of-tyr/nhtQ5k8/uldaman-legacy-of-tyr-temporary-route/edit/2

[lusty grotto]

it shouldnt take you 5 mins in between dwarves and talondras though

[warm plinth]

Can even pull bigger in some spots on tyr week

[lusty grotto]

you can 1 pull all 3 snakes and the 2 dudes

• the run back

[modern gazelle]

i do pull all 3 snakes and 2 dudes

[lusty grotto]

idk feels like there could be more optimizing

[modern gazelle]

then bring them up the stairs and kite them usually

[warm plinth]

That's what I do as well

Don't like doing the stairs strat because they sometimes jagged bite other people when on the stairs

[modern gazelle]

i dont do the 3 chompers with the first pul though i do that seperate

[warm plinth]

because Blizz things

[modern gazelle]

then i do the next 2 packs as double pulls

[lusty grotto]

talondras through emberon lasted quite a while

did you say you had deaths on emberon?

[modern gazelle]

2 deaths, both revived

[warm plinth]

Deaths on Emberon probably means an extra cycle too

[modern gazelle]

healer died, i barfely saved peopel with shout then priest died

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats a huge time sink

[warm plinth]

Which is a big time loss

[lusty grotto]

let me guess

they died to tornados

[modern gazelle]

prob i didnt see what they died to exactly

[lusty grotto]

cause with a priest, they shouldnt die to dot

[warm plinth]

I've died to them this patch because some tanks like to tank the boss in the middle where the animation gets lost sometimes 😠

[modern gazelle]

i do the exact same pulls as what @warm plinth posted except start

at start i do the big pull except the chompers

other than that its almost the same

[lusty grotto]

i typically just try to pull the boss far from the shielded golemns, which is where they come from

[warm plinth]

No reason not to do the chompers. You have all CDs for that pull

[modern gazelle]

they hurt like a bitch lmao

[warm plinth]

Yeah that's what I do as well Nim. I pull to an inactive golem or near the door where there's a gap

[modern gazelle]

what do you guys mean?

why pull to an inactive golem

[lusty grotto]

i cant import my route, im on xiv waiting for people to log on to raid

[warm plinth]

The fire tornado things on Emberon come from the active golems

So if you pull to an inactive one, it takes a lot longer for them to get to you

[modern gazelle]

ah

okay

yeah makes sense

i usually just tank more central but il do that

[lusty grotto]

ideally you want to be moving around inactive golems

because the tornadoes home

[warm plinth]

Tanking in the middle means you can't see the circle around the tornadoes a lot of the time. Makes them harder to dodge even w/ the animation change.

The terrain there hides it

[lusty grotto]

same issue that happens with hands on Ularogg

[warm plinth]

I call it the Carpet affix

after Lower Kara's dumb carpets

[lusty grotto]

the carpet in the 2nd chain room in Nelth

after boss

hides ground aoes too

[warm plinth]

It's not like binding spears 1-shot or anything right

Who needs to see those

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[warm plinth]

I honestly love mechanics like that

Because it's like

What's the point of the root

if it just kills you

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/because-fuck-them-why-gif-12024919

[dusky canopy]

[modern gazelle]

finally

+2 nelth lair to finish off the 3k 🙂

[austere lava]

What addon you using for the m+ UI change?

[lavish sphinx]

Grats Dawn

[modern gazelle]

warp deplete i customized it myself

[austere lava]

Looks v nice

[dusky canopy]

yooo Gz dawn!

[modern gazelle]

ty 🙂

[halcyon pasture]

What is afflicted?
Returning player.

[modern gazelle]

we working up to big boy keys

not the cleanest, but timed my first 25

[warm plinth]

Every 30 seconds, you can have 0-2 ghosts spawn in random positions around you/the mobs you're fighting. They need to be dispelled within 8 seconds or they apply a debuff to the party that reduces haste by 50%, stacking. All dispels work on them except for magic.

sorry it's 100%, not 50

[slim elk]

Guild just killed Neltharion on Mythic! 8/9M Can you guys give us some hearts? Instagram.com/asyliumguild

[lusty grotto]

uhhh

[slim elk]

All love. ✌🏻❤️

[lusty grotto]

#promotion

[slim elk]

Ok thanks

Thanks @lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

please delete that link

but feel free to post it over there

congratulations to you

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

[ionic fern]

Hi @warm plinth . Ily.

[crude notch]

@lusty grotto hi ily

[lusty grotto]

@crude notch . Ily.

[loud osprey]

If I wanted to see what I parried, how do I find that in the logs?

[proper roost]

https://i.redd.it/avqdtc7t54lb1.jpg

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-26067066

[weak zinc]

hey, warrior player gonna learn prot. how troll is it to wear this? I dont see any warrs on subcreation using it

[ionic fern]

Don't use subcreation. 🙂

It's not "troll" at all to use it. It's a solid option.

[keen tendon]

Hey guys, what should i be aiming for in terms of haste?

[ionic fern]

Hello.

As much as possible without sacrificing item level.

There's really no set "point" you want to aim for. If you want a number..iirc it was 7100

[keen tendon]

Currently this is my stats without into the fray https://gyazo.com/4945ad8a8e98bd7abde12fe8557d312a

[ionic fern]

If it were me i'd drop vers for crit where possible. But that's just me. 😂

[keen tendon]

Amazing thanks mate.

[cunning inlet]

Would be interested to see what you find.

I started this season with the haste crit stats. Always felt a little sketch compared to the haste verse stats we used to run. Last week I converted back to haste vers / mast and it feels great again. Noticeably tougher. Able to pull bigger safer. Little less damage output on the same size pulls is the downside but it feels relaxing to play by comparison to the haste crit setup.

[warm plinth]

He's memeing 🤦‍♂️

[crude notch]

Love me a good dosage of placebo in the morning though

[warm plinth]

Indeed

[ionic fern]

I can't remember a time where we actively went for haste/vers.

Then again, as long as it's Haste + x, i don't care what people run.

[warm plinth]

I can remember a time when people thought you should go for it

But not one where we actually did

[ionic fern]

So..always?

[warm plinth]

Yes

[crude notch]

lmao

[remote venture]

Nothing has change.

Has correct stats on warrior proc been relevent? Maybe not in vanlia with int builds

[jaunty canopy]

What if someone was crit>haste, how would you feel about that Mwahi? :p

[ionic fern]

Utter respect.

[crude notch]

He'd cry himself to sleep

[jaunty canopy]

@ionic fern 😂 Well im happy to report I have 5800 crit and 4700 haste currently

[strong forum]

[remote venture]

But your Vers are so low :(

[warm plinth]

Psh you think that's low vers?

[jaunty canopy]

https://gyazo.com/5b283b00ba4720bbb918f315e7425eae

[warm plinth]

I'm fury; that's why my mastery is so high btw

[jaunty canopy]

Was honestly wondering if changing it around would help doing everything at the same time for first pull in NL but kinda of a one off situation ya know? 😅

[strong forum]

Lemme show you smth

[warm plinth]

Probably wouldn't even notice a difference

Vast majority of the damage on that pull is parryable

[brittle owl]

[crude notch]

PARRYGODX

[strong forum]

This is the dmg breakdown from sense's 30NL first pull

[crude notch]

PARRYGOD THE FIRST

[jaunty canopy]

@strong forum yeah I noticed that looking at logs, why I didnt mess with anything yet.

[warm plinth]

I was about to say he took 24% of his damage in the entire key from piercing shards? I knew it hit hard but damn XD

[strong forum]

Yes you'd take less dmg from piercing shards but you'll instead take more from all those melees unlikely changing anything

The other thing would be you'd have a better chance against the 2nd hulk

But you're also just taking way less dmg there to begin with

[ionic fern]

4 casts..24%.

Hilarious.

[strong forum]

Technically 6

But he leapt 2

Was PS - sac - SW - leap - SW - leap

[jaunty canopy]

Very true. Id be curious to hear your thoughts on the value on haste, defensively, once you get to the 5000-7000 range comparatively towards mixing in other stats.

[strong forum]

Haste amplifies everything we do, offensively you are better off just simming (prolly getting more mastery and vers)

But you can't go wrong with keeping haste at those levels

[crude notch]

He parried roughly ~8mil damage in autos on one pull, jesus

[loud osprey]

How do I find that information for my own logs

[crude notch]

You'd need unobtainable amounts of Vers to even come halfway to that.

[jaunty canopy]

Wonder if [Mirror of Fractured Tomorrows] would be great for that, I think it should be roughly 10-12% more parry chance for 20 sec + the healing from the extra dmg

Another thought, is that 8 million dmg in autos before or after our block/armor is factored in? as the hit never "hit"? Not sure how the logs record that.

the armor + block would reduce that 8 million by like 6-7m, with 50%+ from armor and 50%+ from blocking, wouldnt it?

[crude notch]

that 8 mil isn't raw

[cunning inlet]

If crit is where its at defensively, why are the majority of PWars on page one of RaiderIO are not running crit heavy builds?

[hardy snow]

because other stats matters as well