protection

[lusty grotto]

im basically strapping in cause the end of storm season is when its usually happening

and season doesnt end until Nov 😢

we have a mild storm south of us right now and 2 more coming up

just storms though, not hurricanes

thankfully

[sick sentinel]

nerf shaman

i think they do a hurricane spell

[lusty tiger]

wtb more support specs

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCLA80Jeh44

[crude notch]

Hi cuties

I lub you all.

[lusty grotto]

[sick sentinel]

that song i linked is actually good

there is like 2 songs that have a gamer word, but is what is

[warm plinth]

I have steam deck 😱

WE GONNA GAME

[warm plinth]

I love you too Jordan!

[sick sentinel]

install classic wow

play hardcore

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/bka0W.gif

[sick sentinel]

retail?

[warm plinth]

I might install retail on it for the memes

We shall see

[sick sentinel]

oh, i know, OW, thats on steam now too

[lusty grotto]

woot

runs well from what ive heard

just gotta get used to gamepad buttons

[warm plinth]

[lusty tiger]

this song goes OFF

i wish i couldve played LoL back when the art style was more rugged like this

i think i played LoL 2x in 2012 but i didnt understand it and i liked smite much better

[mighty valley]

now all of LA looks like assholes for buckling down and freaking out over what turned out to be anywhere else's normal day of rain

while elsewhere: millions of storms every year

i mean LA looks like assholes anyway, that's part of the charm

[crude notch]

It's all perspective

I'm not gonna make fun of Texas for overprepping for 6 inches of snow because I'm from where it can snow 6 feet

[jagged gust]

Canadians will still make fun of Toronto though for calling in the army to shovel snow when they had 6" drop overnight

[lusty grotto]

yeah its fine, rather overprep than come short

i wouldnt do it any other way

[uncut thunder]

Yeah I’m fine with the over prep too. I had to drive around a bit Sunday later afternoon and even with the mild rain there were full intersections that were flooded and right lanes that were not usable due to flooding.

If we got like 6-8 inches like they thought half the city would be under water. Our infrastructure is so busted for drainage

[modern gazelle]

can any of you big gamers review my mythic zskarn prog for me?

trying to figure out if im doing anything blatantly wrong

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FTgMHj8nvRJ1VX2h/#type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=1

I have been told i take too much damage, though generally i tank boss from start till after moving across room for tact destruction 1, so if we call early wipe i generally will have more damage taken.

Being asked to use tank trink, but since im not really dying it seems like it would be a complete waste and id just lose damage which is already low cause i have to sit d stance cause they say im taking too much

[trail bough]

levelling a prot warrior right now and it feels like i have so many buttons

does the spec have a shit ton of buttons or do we cut some off our bars

[modern gazelle]

you have a lot but they are defensives mostly, you get used to it

[trail bough]

i mean like

[modern gazelle]

you dont need slam/whirlwind

[trail bough]

ok cool

i knew no whirlwind

but wasnt sure ab slam since its less energy

we just always rend then?

[modern gazelle]

nah, you press shield slam, thunderclap, revenge like 99% of the time

mixed with defensives

[crude notch]

You don't press rend because of blood and thunder

[modern gazelle]

oh yeah that too

[trail bough]

📝

[modern gazelle]

we are a high APM class, but imo it feels good and makes sense

you know what to press and when based on prio most of the time

its not super complex

[cinder nova]

Why do they have a BDK doing bombs instead of boss

[trail bough]

how similar is prot warrior to prot paladin

[modern gazelle]

gripping adds he swapped off of monk, i was on bombs first night but we didnt have bop rotation so i just died over and over, so i was put on boss

[trail bough]

i like not needing to stand in consecration to be tanky

[modern gazelle]

to me feels similar, but i havent played much prot pally this expac

[cinder nova]

You have 3 paladins, why not make a bop rotation lol

[modern gazelle]

we have one now

[cinder nova]

You have so many classes here that can help with bombs.

[hardy snow]

you have rogue, he should use his aa slows on boss, also DK and lock should keep debuff all the time

[modern gazelle]

first night we didnt have one, after that we made a bop rotation and had him swap from monk to bdk so he could do bombs and grip adds

[sick sentinel]

dk paladin warrior key is the best thing ever will say

[hardy snow]

and its magic dot, we can mitigate some of it, but we still need tons of healing there

[cinder nova]

This seems like a pretty obvious lack of just applying tools correctly. The logs read like a group that's trying to hammer a nail with a monkey wrench

[sick sentinel]

its really busted to have the healer and dps be plate wearer

[modern gazelle]

they said they want the rogue damge debuff not aa debuff though i suggested he aa debuff since there istn much raid damage going out, was shot down

[sick sentinel]

so they dont just die in 1 mele

[cinder nova]

Sec.

[sick sentinel]

problem i have with priest

[modern gazelle]

my biggest issue has been adaptability we had a pull i think we couldve killed, but we have the fight layed out, at 10% i had suggested baiting to a diff spot that was more clear but we kept it as it was planned, ran out of room and died at4%, so i feel like its not tank issue more dps not dodging and us not adapting issue

but im open to criticism i just want to know if im doing something wrong

ive already swapped build to be more tanky, like taking off unstoppable force so that avatar gives me shield wall

[cinder nova]

I mean, that's directly working against you.

[hardy snow]

then tell them to fk off and dont whine about your dmg taken

[cinder nova]

We don't take UF for just damage.

[hardy snow]

also your cotank should taunt faster, he had lots of gaps in debuff, and you were receiveing additional stacks because of that

for example here - you got 3 additional stacks because of that

[cinder nova]

On your best pull atroph mitigated about 9.78m damage.
Having a full set of AA slows would've nearly halved your stack intake, which conservatively would've been somewhere between 20m and 15m damage.

But that's all on tanks, not the whole group.

[trail bough]

what about st?

[modern gazelle]

st?

drawing blank

[trail bough]

single target

[modern gazelle]

oh, same rotation

[trail bough]

rlly?

i see

[modern gazelle]

just swap to exe when at 20% instead of revenge

our build is all AOE regardless of if we are ST we cant really change that

[hardy snow]

the only big diff is to use TC for outburst when there are like 5+ targets

[modern gazelle]

thanks i didnt know how to point it out in logs, i tried to just tell them that there isnt much raid damage but they still felt teh damage debuff was better, ill try to use this as an example

can you guys notice any glaring issues i am personally making?

[cinder nova]

Having all 3 slows is a 45% attack speed reduction

[modern gazelle]

or even minor stuff

like im super open to criticism, but been frustrated cause i get talked to constantly when i feel like im tanking it as best i can atm for the most part

[cinder nova]

You take about as much damage as the VDH, I think they're just getting annoyed about being stuck on Zskarn because it's a dogshit prog boss.

[jagged gust]

I tend to get too greedy with my exe casts, been trying to teach myself to conserve rage a bit better in exe range

[cinder nova]

Why?

What is there to save rage for.

[jagged gust]

Prioritizing rage for SB, I get caught up in SS/Exe back and forth and occasionally will let SB caps stack

Not that I'm letting it drop but it feels like a dumb move regardless

[cinder nova]

I mean, not really. If you aren't losing ShB uptime, you really only have to care if you see a gap about to arrive, and then pressing it for that, otherwise worrying about the 2-stack rule when the boss will be dead well in advance of it mattering is just lost DPS.

Plus, the more Exe you press the more your SS resets.

[modern gazelle]

still click TC before Exe though usually even ST

SS>TC>Exe/Revenge

[jagged gust]

Yeah but I'm far from a pro when it comes to tanking, I can see myself wiping the raid to letting a block drop one day and I'd like to avoid that scenario

[modern gazelle]

with full raid tier+talents its hard af to not keep 100% SB uptime

like you have to actively try not to keep it up...

[lusty grotto]

thats very unlikely to happen

[hardy snow]

press more shield slams, you had only ~14 cpm on that skill

more shield slams is not only more dmg, but more rage for outbursts (which gives IP) and indom healing

[modern gazelle]

my CPM is usually muc higher idk what caused it so low besides that i have to run back and forth across the raid area to position boss which takes away uptime on damage/casts

that is extremely low for sure...

[hardy snow]

you can also ask healers to pump you (or xternals) on worst moments - which is when you are not tanking the boss and waiting for debuff to drop off

[modern gazelle]

this is why im being talked to lol

cause apparently healers say im taking too much healing they have to focus me too much

[lusty grotto]

you will require too much healing if you dont have AA slows

[hardy snow]

its good to remind healers on such fights, like zskarn, expriments, kurog in previous raid, which have heavy magic dot that tanks actually need pumping on these fights for most of the fight

[lusty grotto]

thats just how it is, its Zskarn

[modern gazelle]

so im trying to see if im making big mistakes that are causing me to take too much, but i feel like its just hard not to take damage at 9-10 stacks

[lusty grotto]

14 cpm isnt too bad

i cap out at 16

[hardy snow]

well, biggest thing that can be done is to reduce amount of stacks - and as we said earlier - thats done by AA slows and your co-tank taunting faster

[lusty grotto]

but on average its around 15ish

SS CPM that is

[modern gazelle]

thanks, appreciate it, i am open to change, but i just have really felt there isnt much i can do, which i feel like makes me seem argumentative or not open to criticism

[lusty grotto]

well 19.2 is kinda my biggest

[modern gazelle]

can you take a look at my deaths? i try to pay attention, and i dont think ive been dying, which is why ive really pushed to not have them swap me to using cheat death trinket or any other def trinket

since it woudl just be a waste

[lusty grotto]

tell them warrior discord say you should have AA slows for warrior tanks, otherwise its just gonna continue aside from what has been suggested stack wise

they can come in here

and ask

[modern gazelle]

i think i only died 2 times that actually screwed us, one was no aa slows i believe and other was me and co tank mistake

[lusty grotto]

if they dont believe it

[modern gazelle]

lol appreciate it

[lusty grotto]

i cant look at the log right now but

the ONLY things you can do are cycling demo/wall/SR for the DR

and d stance

thats it

if you are also doing bombs for some reason, that'd be really bad

which i hope you arent

and of course follow these guys suggestions when it comes to stack management and your other tank taunting when he should

and as an ace in the hole, ye olde "prog is about killing the boss, not about going for damage parses" to your healers is good 🙂

[modern gazelle]

my other tank and i decided to mostly taunt swap on cd, except if we are about to have to move boss, in which case we keep boss till positioned then swap

[hardy snow]

taunt when you lose debuff

[modern gazelle]

im not doing bombs anymore thankfully we have bop rotation on our 3rd tank for that, though they may put me on bombs this week :/

[hardy snow]

especially if rest of your group is coming up with some stupid idea of not using AA slows

[lusty grotto]

your guild is retarded

[modern gazelle]

hoping they dont cause we have gotten it 3-4% so i feel like major changes liek that is a waste and will reset prog

[lusty grotto]

im not gonna mince words

warrior is the worst tank for bombs

[hardy snow]

despite warrior not being great for that if you have dk

but making so much progress and then swaping tank roles when you have lots of things figured out about movement etc.

is like Nimchip said - retarded

[lusty grotto]

if i were you i'd be looking to jump ship asap

yeah agreed

[warm plinth]

I would have thought BDK and VDH were worse at bombs because they have no way to heal the damage back

[hardy snow]

BDK can do bombs near boss, heal up, get blood shield and go run for some far away bomb

[lusty grotto]

vdh sure

[modern gazelle]

if we arent rage genning we have no way to heal really though right?

[warm plinth]

Well I was meaning more that we have better defensives more often

[lusty grotto]

outside of wall, you have no real way to mitigate it

[warm plinth]

Because we're mitigation, not healing

[lusty grotto]

we dont

[modern gazelle]

what defense for it?

ip/SW are only ones right?

nothing else works

[lusty grotto]

cause bomb runners arent on the boss

[warm plinth]

shield wall and IP

[lusty grotto]

yeah well good luck generating rage

[modern gazelle]

but one bomb breaks IP and you cant gen rage for more

cause you arent attacking

[warm plinth]

You're not constantly running around doing bombs though are you?

[hardy snow]

as a warrior you can pop bomb, charge back to boss, pew pew, generate rage/ip, go for next bomb

[lusty grotto]

no for the most part, but bdk is still better

[modern gazelle]

i am sure it would be easier for me now with the bop rotation, and if i practiced, but i feel like its gonna masively reset progress

so im strongly hoping we keep me on boss at this point

4% wipe means its a kill if we jsut have more live basically

[lusty grotto]

yea

[hardy snow]

if the person that will replace you on boss havent practiced boss moving, you will have tons of recourse

[modern gazelle]

i have PTSD from bfa when i was pugging heroic AOTC early on and we kept wiping at 4%, and every pull raid lead would kick and invite someone else, go back in progress, get down again and then repeat

so i dislike big changes on low% pulls since i feel liek the strat worked, its just cleaning it up

[lusty grotto]

right thats what we were talking about

[hardy snow]

of course, when you check your 3.6% wipe - you had tons of deaths to lasers, traps, all of these can be improved with more practice

[lusty grotto]

shit you have an ilvl 432 druid thats doing around the same healing as the rest of your healers

idk man

and these are the same people complaining about healing you?

[modern gazelle]

id assume so lol

[lusty grotto]

you have a dk, a rogue, and a warlock

...

[trail bough]

Is there ever a point we get 100% uptime on shield block

[lusty grotto]

yes

for damage

so therefore 100% or close to it is important

[trail bough]

No I mean

I’m only level 40

It’s impossible for 100% uptime rn

Later on is it realistic

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats about right

[modern gazelle]

yes, you can have it up 100% during pulls

easily even

[lusty grotto]

if you have a rogue, a dk, and 2 warlocks, why cant they do numbing, curse of ex, and whatever the fuck the DK does

[modern gazelle]

rogue was on damage reduction, they said it was better, i tried to argue for aa slow last week

dk idk

[trail bough]

Dk slows aa

[strong forum]

During leveling 100% uptime is not realistic until the late 60s
With level 70, 100% uptime is the standard

[modern gazelle]

i had to remind lock for aa slow the first week of prog xD

[trail bough]

Awesome Ty

[modern gazelle]

hes been pretty good about it since then though

so we at least have 1 slow in it

[trail bough]

Bottom left talent in class tree I think?

[lusty grotto]

is it curse of enfeeblement?

[trail bough]

Curse of weakness

[lusty grotto]

ah yes

[trail bough]

enfeeblement is mainly PvP it’s an movement speed slow

[lusty grotto]

insidious chill is DK's

[trail bough]

Yeah

[lusty grotto]

both UH and Frost have it

and blood for that matter

[trail bough]

It’s class tree

I think

[lusty grotto]

yeah but some class tree abilities change sometimes

[trail bough]

oh true

[hardy snow]

every DK can have this insidious chill

[lusty grotto]

ye

so they have TWO DKs, 2 warlocks, and a rogue thats doing atrophic instead of numbing

thats 2 out of 3 AA slows

[jagged gust]

Were they arguing in terms of raid damage or tank damage? Tank damage they're outright wrong and raid damage... What do they think they're saving themselves from with 3% dr?

[lusty grotto]

the BDK has it

[modern gazelle]

What I understood was raid damage.

[trail bough]

gulp

[modern gazelle]

Looks like it, I don’t know anything about DK, just that we didn’t have rogue on it. Locks been good about it after mentioning it

[lusty grotto]

idk seems like AA slows are handled for the most part, outside of Rogue's atrophic

just need to improve on stack management

[hardy snow]

dont worry @modern gazelle, just force your group to use all 3 aa slows all the time, without gaps and ask co-tank for tauning when his debuff epxires and you will feel immortal on that fight

[lusty grotto]

like Jawor said, you taunt when your debuff is gone, this doesnt change from the easier difficulties

not on cooldown

that's just... wrong

[modern gazelle]

By cooldown I meant debuff cooldown

[hardy snow]

here you got 8 additional stacks because of late taunt

eight EXTRA stacks,

[lusty grotto]

asap the debuff is gone the other tank needs to taunt

if it helps, most raid WAs have a huge icon for stacks

[hardy snow]

on my guild's kill I had at most 7 total

[modern gazelle]

The only time we agreed not to taunt is when we are positioning boss

Like moving across room for tactical or traps about to be placed

[hardy snow]

you can both run to position boss, doesnt matter who have agro

[modern gazelle]

It was mostly simplicity sake, like if boss was half way across room and moving we waited till it was repositioned to taunt.

[lusty grotto]

but..

you should be on the boss and moving either way?

why is one of you lagging behind?

or in what case is the boss in africa far from you?

[modern gazelle]

Not necessarily lagging, idk we just decided that way so positioning never got wonky

[hardy snow]

you both can move, and those gaps doesnt look like "just waiting for boss to position"

here is another of your deaths, you got 6 additional stacks, while already having 6

[lusty grotto]

this seems like an overcomplication of something so simple

[modern gazelle]

Yeah I’ll maybe tell other tank to taunt asap instead

[hardy snow]

and who knows, if you wouldnt die perhaps he would wait even longer with taking agro

[crude notch]

wait now i have to watch repla

You got up to 12 stacks while the VDH was right there and boss wasn't moving, that's not a positioning thing

[modern gazelle]

rip...

appreciate you all checking the logs though, really trying to be a top tier prot war, but just felt at a loss lately for what i could change on this fight

[trail bough]

i believe in you

[jagged gust]

We're all in this together, you keep your stick on the ice.

[sick sentinel]

wtb more jump pads than just in thaldrazus

i call them jump pads because they act exactly the same as sonic jump pads, you walk on it or jump on it, you get a jump boost.

[hazy bronze]

There's a couple by the Hoi entrance

[sick sentinel]

well, i am on area52 after all

[narrow jay]

what Phial do we use for Prot?

[lusty grotto]

versa

for the most part

[narrow jay]

ive always sued vers jsut startyed dabbling in currupting rage

wasnt sure which was better

[lusty grotto]

corrupting rage is good if you wanna parse raids

thats kind of about it

[narrow jay]

kk thanks 🙂

[torpid fiber]

you guys excited to sit def stance prema on tuesday?

[warm plinth]

No, because that's not going to happen lol

It's still an ~8% DPS loss to sit in def stance

[torpid fiber]

prove it

[crude notch]

prove what?

[lusty grotto]

that its a ~8% dps loss

to sit in dstance

5% straight dps loss, and -3% less crit, so 8% sounds about right

[torpid fiber]

how would 3 percent crit equal a straight 3 percent overall dps loss

[lusty grotto]

im not gonna do the work for you, run SimC and sim for 3% crit vs 0% crit

[cinder storm]

You only use dstance as an extra cd, for a brief moment, or never

[lusty grotto]

with the standard gear build

[south zealot]

even if it was 0% crit you still lose 5% damage for no reason

[violet flume]

really wish blizz would stop buffing defensive stance in hopes that everyone uses it over battle

jsut buff base class instead

i 100% believe they think every prot wr sohuld be def stance permanentely

[lusty grotto]

if that was the case, they would remove battle stance

[sonic vale]

Meber when prot was broken I meber

[lusty grotto]

idk why yall complaining

we are more than capable of pushing

the difference is whether it is considered meta or not

[torpid fiber]

The difference is ease. Can you push as pwarr? Absolutely. Is it harder than playing bear? Also absolutely. People will almost always seek out the path of least resistance.

[lusty grotto]

youre an idiot

[torpid fiber]

Not wrong though

[sonic vale]

Chill the fck out I havent played since sezon 1 |"Prot broken"was just a meme. And also How is bear meta ?

[torpid fiber]

Bear is absurdly meta right now

[sonic vale]

I asked HOW

When I left bear was a joke

[torpid fiber]

Bear, holy, fire, shadow, aug absolutely dominates top keys right now.

And it’s not anymore. Crazy.

[warm plinth]

It's funny because people act like pwar or ppal or vdh (all previously meta tanks this expansion) changed. Their strength never changed. Bear just got stronger than them w/ the rework.

[sonic vale]

Well we had our fun sezon 1 time for new braindead tank 2 be meta

[warm plinth]

In fact we got buffed since we were meta

[sonic vale]

Can we still tank a 20 by mashing keys ?

[warm plinth]

Yes

[sonic vale]

K I'm back blizz take may money

No w8 1 more question

Are we still doing stupid dps while tanking stupid amount of mobs and while we mash keys

[violet flume]

hm did we get buffed? i forgot how big the nerfs were in s1

i guess damage only got buffed since then

[warm plinth]

We got buffed to compensate for the ring, then got buffed twice more after that, then got def stance buffed twice, then got SR buffed

[dusky canopy]

Man when are they going to buff prot warr

SMH

[torpid fiber]

Except we don’t really use def stance which makes me question if they have anyone actually playing the spec at blizz

[violet flume]

we got some survivabiltiy nerfs though i think

or was it just def stance?

[warm plinth]

We use def stance when it's needed. Stances have pretty much always been a stick to one stance thing, which imo is why it was removed like twice in the past

We haven't really stance danced since the original iteration of stances

[sonic vale]

You were using def srance sezon oxe

[warm plinth]

And that was because you had to be in x stance to use y spell

[sonic vale]

?

xd

[violet flume]

im just asking questions man

[torpid fiber]

Genuinely hated stance dancing tbh

[warm plinth]

Yeah it was garbage

[sonic vale]

Play bear u will get 2 swipe of cd. Like you do with your tinder

[torpid fiber]

You’re giving off weird vibes dude

[warm plinth]

What do you mean 2 wipe of cd?

swipe*

[sonic vale]

Ye and still no matches in completed keys

[torpid fiber]

I can’t tell if this guy is wasted or dumb…

[sonic vale]

Haaaaa I got you here. BOTH

[sonic vale]

And thanks I've been practising those kind of vibes my whole life

[daring marlin]

7lbs of chicken ready to go

[dusky canopy]

YO my dude gettin them gains

[daring marlin]

some were in thr air fryer, most in the oven.

lmaoooo

[dusky canopy]

Thats only one day right

[daring marlin]

Kinder's seasoning owns btw

[dusky canopy]

[daring marlin]

LOL BRO GOT JOKES

madlad

[dusky canopy]

Be like ronnie

eat whole bag of frozen chicken per day

with BBQ

lift houses

ez

[daring marlin]

yes sir I eat 1k grams of protein in just chicken

That man is a savage

[dusky canopy]

"all weight is light weight"

lololol

[restive crown]

is meta gona change with this round of class tuning?

[torpid fiber]

Very unlikely

[valid finch]

good evening was wondering what i should macro beacon to?

[daring marlin]

good evening, put it on its own bind.

[warm plinth]

I second this. It has a cast time; it doesn't make sense to macro it to anything

[valid finch]

ok thanks

also i have this

#showtooltip
/cast Avatar
/cast Berserking(Racial)
/use Zaqali Chaos Grapnel

is this a bad idea?

[warm plinth]

mm, macroing berserking/grapnel to demo/sc/tr/rav would all make more sense, since they'd line up better

[valid finch]

ok thanks for the help

[proper roost]

chicken dn

[daring marlin]

aatrox fucking owns

[proper roost]

u own

[violet flume]

finally my suffering ends, all +20s timed

ends with a cute 2chest neltharus

[uneven mason]

[proper roost]

gz!

[south girder]

Hi guys new to prot warrior. How do I figure out my BIS? Is wowhead accurate or can I Sim it like dps?

[lusty grotto]

#268491842637660160

[south girder]

Ty!

[lusty grotto]

anything that's not in the faq, you can sim

we recommend:
Single Target (raids): 3 min and/or 5 min 1x Patchwerks with Lust and with Battle Shout (and any other buffs you always have)
AOE (keys): 1 min and/or 1.5 mins 5x Patchwerks without Lust and with Battle Shout (and any other buffs you always have)

do not use dungeon slice, our APL does not support it

[wraith minnow]

Are Prot Paladins still necessary for the standard Sark strat?

[jagged pier]

what?

[wraith minnow]

you know the blessing of prot the monk, go to the beyond strat thing

Or is this dated info

[jagged pier]

i mean monk can diffuse for 1

u can dwarf it off

there are otherways around it

[wraith minnow]

okay cool, thanks

We're on Magmorax currently and I only remember the Sark strat having a Monk and Prot Pala for a while

SO I won't need to reroll or anything it sounds like

[sage granite]

Morning guys, what is yours or usual secondary stat distribution? I cant find any site that suggests that. I have on my 439 ilvl prot warr 15% crit, 28% haste, mastery 42, versa 17. With ring in my bag it would be 19% crit, haste 31, versa 14, mastery 34

[opaque quest]

Sim yourself and use what does the most deepz

If youre to lazy for that just rock Haste > crit > vers > mas

[jagged pier]

there are no set stats its ilvl first for strength

then haste

as close to 7100 rating as u can get

without dropping strength

then whatever u like

[sage granite]

What is 7100 rating?

[opaque quest]

7100 haste

[jagged pier]

dont look at % of a stat

hover over and it will give u the rating/actual number

[sage granite]

Oh okay, 9066 strength, 4372 haste, 3613 mastery, 2569 versa, 1587 crit

[strong forum]

just follow the simple prio list of ilvl > str >> haste > crit > vers > mastery

and you're gucci

when items are the same ilvl, you can just sim it

[sage granite]

Huh, okay. I followed icy veins/wowhead/ugg advice as haste vers as prio, not crit for second choice like method site says

[strong forum]

dont look at ugg

like straight up remove it from your brain that it exists

its auto generated pile of garbage just like the other 2 sites i wont name

[sage granite]

Method is site to go then?

[jagged pier]

no

[strong forum]

depends on who writes it

for every single guide

but the method guide for pwar should be good yes

[sage granite]

Thanks guys

Ill rearrange it

[strong forum]

nvm i just had a look

is not done by asa

[jagged pier]

i was about to say i was just having a look too

its out of date for sure

[strong forum]

the talent section looks out of date

rest is ok

i think the images are just out of date

cuz the text doesnt reflect what the images depict for talent builds

[sage granite]

Where is up to date talent section then?

[strong forum]

here in the pins

[sage granite]

K

Can you instrucg me how to find them

[strong forum]

top right corner

[pallid quiver]

Are you on mobile Discord, Vod? I can't remember if they're still half hidden on mobile

[strong forum]

if youre on mobile you gotte swipe to the left

then at the top of your screen you have the pin icon

[sage granite]

Foudn it

It led me to m+ build wowhead site

[strong forum]

yes

talent calulator

[sage granite]

If on mobile you need to press "two dude" button and there is pins

[pallid quiver]

yeah i've never gotten the swiping to actually show me the side panels

unless i don't want the side panels

[opal river]

yo im a new healer. getting 4 heals 2400 rating this patch. almost there. looking to start grouping up. no more pugs looking for teammates ❤️ main priest sham pally druid

[pallid quiver]

I'm going to blame Discord for this instead of chalking it up to user error, because that would make me feel bad.

[strong forum]

weird

works on my machine

[pallid quiver]

It'll definitely do it like 50% of the time when I'm looking at my phone while walking between rooms at work, though

anytime I touch the screen at all

[hardy snow]

"like other 2 sites", but 2 other sites he mentioned is icyveins and wowhead, I didnt know they're generated garbage as well

[jagged pier]

i mean depends on the guide writer

or article writer

[strong forum]

there fixed it

[round cliff]

i didn't even know there were 2 other sites other than the ones mentioned

[hardy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-25358104

[jagged pier]

there are many and more pop up all the time

[hardy snow]

because its pretty easy to do such thing, just read api, collect data and present it, voila

[round cliff]

ive only ever used wowhead cuz i don't wanna find another site

[sick sentinel]

Nome is right once again, surprise.

[crude notch]

Huh

[sick sentinel]

Supposed to be reapond to the dude ask about pins

[crude notch]

Poor nome catching strays from yogi

[sick sentinel]

No I'm not attacking nome

I think nome is one of best people here

(I had to urban dictionary the meaning of catching strays, was unsure if it meant catching strays dogs I had "sent his way", or "catching strays bullets"

Yah I'm referring to the pins not being on main tab on mobile cuz I am also on mobile and was one of first msgs I saw

Figured I could verify it, add to that conversation and put another final nail in its coffin

Actively ahitting on ppl, especially those that don't shit on me is feels bad.

[lusty tiger]

Yogi old

[sick sentinel]

One day you day it will happen to you too (get old) and God maynot be so merciful.

[opaque quest]

So no u.gg trinket checking? Today i learned

[opaque quest]

31 and grey hair anybody?

[lusty tiger]

👴

[lusty grotto]

morning gang

i wonder what absolute garbage i will get today

[proper roost]

gm Nim

why do u do that to urself

so negative about vault homie

[torn gulch]

it's reverse psychology
he is negative so he gets something good

[lusty grotto]

no, that never works

[proper roost]

just dont sound very healthy

mentally

[lusty grotto]

im just hoping for that 4x 2-hander

[proper roost]

very weird to just choose to get depressed every tuesday

but idk w/e ig

[lusty grotto]

i could actually use a dumb asskandi on chipadin

though i dont even know if it parses better for ST than a 447

[torn gulch]

i need either any shoulders or any hands to get closer to finishing my gear

[lusty grotto]

i need... lets see

head and chest

and a mythic anvil

anvil on both chars

because chipadin still rocking normal anvil lmao since week 2

[sick sentinel]

40 actually

[lusty grotto]

i think thats about it, maybe fish for a 447 dargul or a 447 treemouth idk

[sick sentinel]

second youngest person in this chat

[proper roost]

I knew it yogi is actually 40

[sick sentinel]

i the youngesy protecfion warrior

[lusty grotto]

what a

[proper roost]

theres a random very sketchy lookin taco place inside a gas station near me

should i go there for lunch

it has rave reviews

[lusty grotto]

how was your key grind this week?

uhh

[torn gulch]

isn't the rule that those kind of places actually have the best food?

[lusty grotto]

damn tacos sound good for today

[proper roost]

maybe

either that or I'll be shitting my brains out

[torn gulch]

well sometimes risks must be taken

kek

[proper roost]

i've been eating tacos like nonstop the last two weeks

Bonuses: the best tacos are assembled on the spot and eaten piping hot over the sink individually, so I dont need plates

not bonuses: I currently have like 60 tortillas that I need to work through

[lusty grotto]

fuck man now i want tacos

swiss cheese and hot sauce all around if possible

[proper roost]

i've never had swiss cheese for a taco before that sounds wild

[lusty grotto]

👌

[proper roost]

Welp it's really close to my work so I guess I'll try it

theres a really good tamale place right next to it too but equally sketchy

[lusty grotto]

now thats something i havent had in a long long time

[sick sentinel]

i ran 1 16 and a bunch of 5 and 2 vps

i dont want to play sanguine week

[lusty grotto]

i dont either

thank god its over

[sick sentinel]

its just annoying to deal with

[lusty grotto]

ah fort bursting week

hmm

[proper roost]

sang week owns

too bad I have felt zero desire to play wow recently sadge

[opaque quest]

Not much to do apart from IO pushing

[proper roost]

Quazii just posting a bunch of hardcore shit videos

Smh

[opaque quest]

Classic kekw

ppl clicking 90% of their abilities and dying with everything up is truly hardcore

[echo egret]

I was insulted for doing 100mil sanguine healing in uldaman. i just did ~80 in BH.
Are these really bad and if so what can I do as a tank besides try to move mobs away from pools ?

When all these damn casters just stand still inside, ofc

[lusty grotto]

in uldaman you can abuse LoS

in BH, it depends

[echo egret]

I personally do. The group, clearly they didn't

[lusty grotto]

yeah but

all of the things in uldaman cast on you

so they will follow you

[keen sierra]

As fury, I make sure to Shockwave every pack in sanguine pools

[lusty grotto]

either way its a hallway dungeon, of course sanguine will be a problem

the biggest offender though

Ministers of Air

those motherfuckers will not move, so youre forced to kite the other dudes to africa

[proper roost]

100m sanguini healing holy

:monkashake:

[lusty grotto]

and god help you if he chooses to stop casting for a second to get back to you

[proper roost]

you just erased an entire dps from the key

[lusty grotto]

cause he will stay in that sanguine until he finishes channeling and then blow up the shield

[echo egret]

"you" - what can I do ?

[proper roost]

you are the tank

[opaque quest]

Use LOS more

[proper roost]

Literally everything lmao

[echo egret]

I did use LoS always

[opaque quest]

And kite melees away from casters

[proper roost]

sanguine is 99.99% tank affix

[opaque quest]

If you LoS you wouldnt have 100 mil in ulda

[proper roost]

dont say what can I do as if ur not 99% of the responsibility of sanguine

[echo egret]

When I LoS, mobs run through the pools to come to me.

At least that's what happened

[lusty grotto]

thats fine

[proper roost]

use your eyes and position mobs correctly

if a mob will die soon drag it out

[lusty grotto]

as long as theyre not sitting on it

[proper roost]

then drag the los mobs the other direction

if ur kiting mobs through sanguine constantly youre fucking up

bad

[lusty grotto]

situational awareness helps out

[proper roost]

if the front ones are the ones dying then move them to not be in the way!

[opaque quest]

Use your leap if you need to change direction

[lusty grotto]

but thats just something that you will get with practice

[opaque quest]

Just leap over the pools and mobs

[echo egret]

... and get half the party cleaved because the place is filled with cleavers, then get insulted too

(yes, it has happened several times)

[lusty grotto]

only a couple of them cleave

custodians are pretty much the only ones

[echo egret]

yes, but they are present in many packs

[lusty grotto]

well thats not on you

[opaque quest]

2 different issues

[lusty grotto]

either they get out of the fucking way or they die, shit happens

[opaque quest]

Cleave = others are idiots

100 mil sanguine

Youre the idiot

Just practice

And you'll get a feeling for sang

[echo egret]

what's a decent score ?

I'm looking at one of the top runs for a 22 on warcraftlogs, it has 82million

[opaque quest]

Never checked but sanguine shouldnt be above you or the healer in details

[valid sundial]

100mil sang just means his dps got to pad more, i bet they were fine with it.

[lusty grotto]

let me check my runs yesterday

[echo egret]

Another run, 94mil

And they're in the top 200 runs for these affixes.

Don't think I want to deny my responsibility, I'm just wondering if 100 mil sanguine healing is so bad compared to others and if it is really on me.

[echo egret]

That's VP

[lusty grotto]

thats the run where the minister of air decided to fucking sit then move then sit

[echo egret]

ok, browsing randomly throug wlogs, the top 100 logs, there is a massive variance in numbers.

[lusty grotto]

of course there is

some sanguine gets carried by high dps

some doesnt

or cant

[echo egret]

I don't know how the rank is calculated

[lusty grotto]

youre still looking for ways to validate your total

i dont think its worth it

[echo egret]

In a way, yes

[lusty grotto]

you know what to do and how to fix it

[opaque quest]

39 mil is still to much but leaps and bounds better than 70 i guess

There is work to do

Also i just started tanking 4 weeks ago so im still improving too

[lusty grotto]

and kanga is absolutely correct, if sanguine is doing 100k hps, you're effectively removing a dps from the party

[echo egret]

100k hps ? no I said 100million healing

[lusty grotto]

whatever, you know what im saying

[hardy snow]

thats 100m more dmg your party must deal

[lusty grotto]

yeah no excuses

just work on results

the acceptable amount of healing you get from sanguine is...

0

anything higher than that is bad

including my runs

and everyones

[echo egret]

it just feels like "we failed because you let them sanguine heal too much" is a lie, because logs rankings prove otyherwise.

[lusty grotto]

well

[hardy snow]

beside all the running/swirlies mechanics etc. timing dungeon is pure math

[lusty grotto]

it contributes to it

[opaque quest]

M+ Ranking means shit

[hardy snow]

you have to deal specified amount of damage in some period

[lusty grotto]

but hard to say what failed

[echo egret]

exactly

[hardy snow]

the more damage you have to deal, the harder it is to time key

[echo egret]

but pugs do not speak any other way than absolutes

"it's 100% or 0% your fault" - and add some random insult

[lusty grotto]

well the only thing you can control there

is sanguine positioning

even if they are being assholes

they do have a point

it is what it is, go next key

no reason to dance around it, you know what you have to do

[echo egret]

side note

when some mobs are casting at random targets, me hiding around a corner won't help if others stay in LoS, correct ?

think Earth Bolt

[opaque quest]

Charge interrupt leap away

Dont rely on randos kicking

[echo egret]

*if the charge+interrupt+leap are ready

[sick sentinel]

got a streaming quality mic i order on amazon few days ago

[lusty grotto]

yeah well BH is different

not a lot of LoS spots on the open areas etc

you can only do so much there

the rest of the team should be helping out

[echo egret]

casters+hunters are the nuisances for that

[lusty grotto]

typically you want to drag melees away from them

[opaque quest]

Get a druid or evoker for boops

[lusty grotto]

when either of them are low, and that's about it

[sick sentinel]

evoker CC is really good

that earthquake like thing they do

[lusty grotto]

upheaval yea

[sick sentinel]

New mic, also fork

[crude notch]

nice fork

[lusty tiger]

Yogi telekinetic confirmed

Look how much the fork is bent!

[sick sentinel]

naturally curved fork

very old

[fallow fern]

Just curious if anyone has done any figuring.. with the change to def stance 5% dmg reduction (instead of 10%) do we run defensive stance more.. or still stay in battle?

[lusty grotto]

nothing has changed

default to battle, swap to d-stance when needed

[sick sentinel]

yeah, its just now less cringe if we swap to d-stance

[lusty grotto]

this has been asked since friday non stop

[sick sentinel]

cuz we dont lose 5% dmg ~ 5%threat

[lusty grotto]

nome you might wanna pin something lol

[sick sentinel]

that or blizzard could word it better

damage you take reduced by 20%, damage you deal reduced by 5%

[lusty grotto]

i feel like its not that confusing

but sure

but feels like copium cause they certainly have put shit on tooltips that could definitely be better written

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats the change

[sick sentinel]

i don't feel like this would be an easy to understand sentence, if you werent playing the game actively

[lusty grotto]

youre not wrong

[lusty tiger]

"the damage penalty of D stance has been reduced from 10% to 5%"

[opaque quest]

Blizz making everythin harder than it should be

I am shooketh

[hardy snow]

you can just read d-stance tooltip and all should be clear

[crude notch]

read?

in this economy?

[proper roost]

He did

[lusty grotto]

yes he did put the changes, not the answer to the question that has been happening since then

[proper roost]

I mean

[hardy snow]

I mean, if someone cant match this with buff description, they should stop playing video games all day and go back to books or something 🤷‍♂️

[proper roost]

yeah books

[sick sentinel]

@strong forum current discussion as of this post.

[proper roost]

for the stupid people

they should go back to them wow is only for the intellectuals

[jagged pier]

he did

[proper roost]

highfive

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/xluna-high-five-gif-25422702

[modern brook]

Are we making fun of book readers?

Those absolute Neanderthals?

[crude notch]

Yeah book reading is for dumb people reading tooltips however are for gigabrains

or something idk

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-shake-my-head-bruh-phoenix-wright-pw-gif-18256821

[sick sentinel]

watch i get heart of thunder or talisman, 441, didnt hapen

[hollow finch]

did the increase the dmg reduction from defensive stance again ?

[sick sentinel]

ill increase your reduction

[crude notch]

Your damage done while in Defensive Stance has been reduced to -5%.

[lusty grotto]

yogi going ham

[sick sentinel]

trying to look into boom arms

maybe DAC, we see, i dunno

[vocal laurel]

In VP, especially during fort week, is it smart to double the first two packs together?

[sick sentinel]

bridge and first ya i would say so

across the birdge pack..... ??? dunno

[lusty grotto]

no

triple yes

quadruple no

[sick sentinel]

the 2 dudes on the bridge have a ton of HP, and they take forever to kill, can kill a key if you pull them alone, not only alot of hp but have to run out, and blocks from front, so they harder to kill

[lusty grotto]

and only if you got kicks and your dps isnt dumb enough to focus mistrals

[vocal laurel]

So triple pull is the best method? I’ve only ever done two!

[sick sentinel]

i do the first pull, bridge, and lust

[lusty grotto]

☝️ ☝️ ☝️

you will die if you dps isnt focusing vortexes and soldiers

[vocal laurel]

Good info, thanks

[lusty grotto]

and by you i mean your team, not you as a tank

[vocal laurel]

Yeah definitely haha

[lusty grotto]

the idea is to keep dragging mistrals over

because they dont do shit

[vocal laurel]

Makes sense

[lusty grotto]

they should die by the 4th pack

with passive cleave

[vocal laurel]

Cool, I’ll do that. Thanks 👍🏻

[neat quartz]

Hey folks - tried the searchbar with no luck. Does warrriors have a way to solo dungeons from early on, while leveling, like paladins have?

[sick sentinel]

what a user name

[lusty grotto]

we have no idea what paladins do, but no

i mean by leveling

[neat quartz]

Thanks for the reply. Shame though

[lusty grotto]

cause i obviously have a geared pally

[crude notch]

why are you solo'ing dungeons while leveling?

[proper roost]

let them have fun!!!

t minus 10 minutes for taco time

[sick sentinel]

ring time soon

[knotty vortex]

according to sims a 447 weapon beats the 441 version of Forgestorm is this accurate?

[lusty grotto]

for aoe yes

this hasnt changed in a while

for st, no

if thats the case then youre probably simming wrong

[knotty vortex]

yeah i was doing dungeon slice

[lusty grotto]

no

dont do that our APL doesnt support it

[knotty vortex]

so forgstorm still better in M+

[lusty grotto]

no

it never was

447 is better

[knotty vortex]

ok thats all i need

[lusty grotto]

forgestorm is better for ST

#protection message

thats how you should sim

[knotty vortex]

very helpful ty much

[lusty grotto]

jesus chipadin got astro fucked on the vault lol

[crude notch]

that's fine, i just wanted to make sure they didn't think it was more xp

[lusty grotto]

congratulations on sockets both characters

horray!

oh wait...

congratulations bags for keeping a socket!

[hollow finch]

got a 447 forgestorm in vault today 😮

[knotty vortex]

must be nice its my last piece of gear for BIS but didnt drop so 447 will be my back up

[sick sentinel]

ring incoming

hopefully no 10 try re-roll

[proper roost]

reporting back: i think the cashier misunderstood me because I got regular birria tacos instead of quesobirria

and no consomme

it was still very good tho

[sick sentinel]

this shit again huh

.9 and wont round up 😦

[verbal hill]

better to be a .9 than a .0 bro

[sick sentinel]

well, at least bursting isn't so bad

[dusky canopy]

Man some Quesobirria tacos sound sooo good

I’m obsessed

[proper roost]

They are bretty good

Better when its cold out

but really hit the spot today

[lusty tiger]

ooo these are the best

watching how theyre made is epic aswell

[proper roost]

smell of corn tortillas is so good

[lusty tiger]

^^^

[proper roost]

My hands are all corn tortillay rn and it owns

god maybe I make chicken tortilla soup today

[lusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/tortilla-turn-table-gif-4077155

[regal yacht]

Does anyone have any tricks or tips on how to survive the breath on Chrono-Lord Deios. I seem to just get nuked even with spell reflect and pumping ignore pains.

[strong forum]

kill it before it kills you

theres not much we can do on that boss

besides cycle all CDs for breaths, including spellblock

[proper roost]

healer has to heal you

anyway you can also just maxrange leap backwards and you outrange it

[undone verge]

10.2 inc I can feel it

[sick sentinel]

ya, i bet mid sept

[undone verge]

10.1.7 is sep 9th or 6th or something so 10.2 is prob October

But the announcement is today or tomorrow def

[sick sentinel]

thats blizzard things

if they doo it cool i guess

[strong forum]

after blizzcon

we dont even have PTR for 10.2 yet

and that ptr will be out for ~2months

which will overlap with blizzcon

so 10.2 releases after blizzcon

[jagged gust]

SW>trinket>Spell Block on cycle should get you perma mitigation for the breath iirc, and if something slips through or you don't have a tank trinket communicating with your healer on your CD's also helps, have your healer pop something like Ironbark on you.

There may be a better rotation of defensives if someone else can chip in, otherwise externals will work wonders

[lusty tiger]

Should be able to combo SR with every other defensive

[proper roost]

Depends

he can have sub 15s breath timers that I've seen before

[jagged gust]

Maybe it's DPS dependent?

I was second or third on the meters and the timer was in the range of twice that CD range

Also @proper roost you wouldn't happen to have a warlock alt would you? I absolutely flubbed a 19 hoi last night, ate like 3 stuns in the dragon hallway and wiped us twice and there was a Kanga in our group lol

Like I could not get my shit together if my life depended on it

[proper roost]

yeah that was me I left the group to throw the key

[undone verge]

did u guys see the guy who was extorting keys?

[proper roost]

that was me

[warm plinth]

Guys

I have found it

The worst prot war log we've ever seen

Who claims that the reason he couldn't hold threat is because people were hitting all the mobs instead of just the one he wanted them to

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:yHhq7mzf2YPkB8x1#fight=1 Enjoy

[sick sentinel]

its not yogi?

[warm plinth]

It's not yogi

yogi got some skillz

[sick sentinel]

maybe he was half asleep

[jagged gust]

maybe he thought they were playing classic by accident

[warm plinth]

He was not. A friend of mine tried very politely to explain some stuff to him and he yelled at him about not knowing how to code and being pretentious about tanking

[sick sentinel]

my guess is he was half asleep doesnt seem to hit any buttons at all

his top cpm is revenge at 5.6 followed byt ss at 3.7

[warm plinth]

Yeah, as soon as I saw Revenge was his top damage, I was like oh no

[jagged gust]

It's the 13 taunts that really gets me

[warm plinth]

Dude I saw that and was like idk if I've cast 13 taunts all expansion

Much less in one dungeon

That's not exactly true since I taunt bosses, but you know what I mean lol

Also, @sick sentinel this is how I know he's not half asleep

[lusty grotto]

get fucked ghash

ignored

[warm plinth]

I wasn't in the group haha. This was a friend's group

[sick sentinel]

LOL

drama central

[warm plinth]

Dude is so confidently incorrect, it's insane

[civic comet]

on M sarkareth, does avoidance reduce the damage of the tank debuff too? I saw something about it reducing all the dot damage on the fight

[urban portal]

How are you getting the text file

[warm plinth]

My friend who was in the group pasted it in another chat

[jagged gust]

[DK who did 35k DPS on trash] lmfao

[sick sentinel]

yeah i have questions like this too

i wouldnt mind anonmyizing my logs and getting chat logs

[warm plinth]

Yeah he posted it in MPF; we don't allow names to be shown in screenshots or logs to avoid drama (unless it's your own/someone else who you know doesn't care)

[sick sentinel]

I try not to talk much during keys

[warm plinth]

You can set any log to anonymous by using the settings at the top. Just click that, then copy/paste the URL of the new log it takes you to and it'll be the anonymous version

Doesn't even have to be your own log

[urban portal]

You can get chat logs in logs?

[warm plinth]

Mage: 441 tier pants to replace 418
Hunter: tokens
Druid: tokens
Warrior: tokens
Priest: tokens
Paladin: tokens
Rogue: tokens

any tokens in chat

No, he just copied the transcript from elvui I imagine

[undone verge]

this man overcapped rage from charge

[warm plinth]

[undone verge]

and 23 rage too which suggests this happened more than once

[agile harbor]

should we be using def stance alot more in keys after today's changes?

[warm plinth]

Not any more than you already were

Just less of a negative when you do use it

[modern gazelle]

remove bursting as an affix please

like who decided an affix that is basically only countered by priests was a good idea

[strong forum]

imagine having a vault HAH loser

[warm plinth]

[jagged gust]

My war's vault is just for aesthetics at this point 😦

[jagged pier]

man needs to touch grass

[jagged gust]

3k gold lezzz gooooo

[warm plinth]

That's not even a lot of keys wdym

I had 1 vault slot on all those chars

[jagged pier]

sir

[modern gazelle]

I have a friend with 13 70’s and he does heroic raid on like 6 of them

[jagged pier]

thats 6-7 keys too many

[warm plinth]

Besides, it's 105 fucking degrees outside, I'm not going to touch grass

[modern gazelle]

And keys on 3+

[modern gazelle]

California?

[warm plinth]

Missouri

[strong forum]

liquid grass

[modern gazelle]

Are key nerfs active yet

[jagged gust]

Almost 40c? Sucks that this is becoming the yearly norm

tbh I'd take -40 over +40 any day

[modern gazelle]

Becoming?

Been that hot in Cali every year for years

[warm plinth]

Yeah I like the cold. Let me be cold all year long, let's go

[modern gazelle]

Gets well over 110F here

[modern gazelle]

Same

[strong forum]

y'all weird

[jagged gust]

Oh sorry I'm thinking in Canadian again, we've started passing the 40 degrees mark the past few years pretty regularly

[strong forum]

love needing to wear 3 jackets to ride my bike

[modern gazelle]

Legit barely gets down to 50F during winter

[strong forum]

love needing to defrost

[jagged gust]

Now that sounds kind of nice, we swing a good 80-90 degrees celcius from summer to winter

[modern gazelle]

No. Having one season all year sucks

[uneven mason]

Yeah out west has been getting broiled

[strong forum]

agreed, get me 2 seasons

the late stages of spring then switch to summer

kthx

[warm plinth]

I rode my motorcycle in 35 degree weather once w/ a hoodie and a mesh jacket. You'll be fine

My bones almost froze inside my body but it was fine

[strong forum]

i rode my bicycle for 2.5hrs in 38°C this year

[jagged gust]

Did you hear about the NWT? Their capital city is getting evacuated from the fires

[strong forum]

was a good day

[uneven mason]

When I first moved up here my neighbor was cracking jokes how I must be in awe at all the snow. I responded that being from Chicago they have less snow than I grew up with, what I have a hard time with is how hot it gets

[warm plinth]

When I say 35 I mean fahrenheit. Was about 1.6 celsius

[jagged gust]

Nice and frosty eyelashes 😂

[strong forum]

stay frosty

:fingerguns:

[warm plinth]

haha, I had gloves that were rated for 10 below (meant for working in freezers) and my hands were still cold after about 40 minutes

[modern gazelle]

Both of you stop having a dick swinging contest. I dragged my balls across the arctic tundra for 20days last year

[uneven mason]

Windchill

[warm plinth]

I had no choice though; my car was in the shop and I had to get to work

worked 50 mins away

[uneven mason]

So you road on a boat?

[jagged gust]

Aint no ice left in the arctic

[proper roost]

if someone posts with only their own name uncensored, won't you be able to easily tell the M+ that the log is from

[uneven mason]

☝️

[warm plinth]

Yeah but idc if you look up who it is on your own. We just don't want the drama in the channel

[proper roost]

ic

[uneven mason]

Fucks we has none

[warm plinth]

Theoretically anyone could look up any run I post because everyone has seen my char list at this point

So even if I didn't post my own name, people could still find it

[uneven mason]

We'd have to care enough

[warm plinth]

Yeah, exactly

No one gives a fuck enough to go looking for who it actually is

[uneven mason]

Only the "I have more CE than god" dude have enough fucks to r.io stalk the entire channel

[warm plinth]

That reminds me of that dude that was in here a while back who was telling people they didn't know what they were talking about and everyone was lower io than him and couldn't possibly understand

And then it turned out my low io ass was higher than him

[uneven mason]

Who do you think I'm referring to

[warm plinth]

Oh lol

[uneven mason]

Was like Jakeys only world 11th, dude knows nothing

[hazy bronze]

I love those people

The worst is when they go off the rails and get banned before I can read the "drama"

[warm plinth]

I think he actually did get banned too

[sick sentinel]

i mean,

[uneven mason]

Was some tasty

[modern gazelle]

Key nerf live?

[warm plinth]

It is Tuesday, so yes

[sick sentinel]

its usually them being angry,, showing a few graphs showing a few interesting comic panel

etc

you know what i really mena

and then they get banned

[uneven mason]

I missed the ww drama, still a regret I'll carry for the rest of my days

[modern gazelle]

Why they nerfed random things but not bursting to reduce necessity of mass dispel is beyond me though

[warm plinth]

Bursting does not require mass dispel though

It's not even a hard affix

[uneven mason]

Because bursting isn't hard to deal with

[modern gazelle]

People be dying fast af in my keys

[uneven mason]

Only if you have a healer who spends most of the dungeon licking windows

[sick sentinel]

bursting can be dealt with by everyone slows dps

[uneven mason]

Sounds like an attention span issue

Either DPS need to let stacks drop or healer has to press buttons

[warm plinth]

It's "hard" because DPS can't handle an affix that they're actually responsible for managing 🙂

[strong forum]

thats why i only play pwar

i dont need to use any braincells to play it anymore

[modern gazelle]

Pwar is so lazy lmao we don’t deal with any affixes

[uneven mason]

It's pretty smooth brain at base now that sb management is equal in difficulty to blinking

[sick sentinel]

you can be a big hero with bursting this week by timing rally during lots of stacks of bursting

[uneven mason]

Isn't it % damage

So like

[sick sentinel]

cuz, it heals a bit too, so can snipe heal ppl from death

[warm plinth]

Nah, bursting hasn't been % damage since like, BFA I think

Or early SL

[uneven mason]

Says still %

[warm plinth]

It's fixed damage that scales but it stops scaling at +20

[modern gazelle]

yeah just long cd

[uneven mason]

You right, stupid wowhead showing me the Legion version

[warm plinth]

[uneven mason]

So yea that's legit not even an affix

DPS not pressing defensive ftw

[strong forum]

most affixes are flat now and stop scaling at some point

which is also wild that it took so long

[proper roost]

ye makes spiteful really funny

because on plate dps u can ignore it

[warm plinth]

I think volcanic is still % based? But that's the only one