WTF
#protection
crude notch
He plays with Rigg, he has to be
plush tendon
that Dianna should probably change her name to "ill feed mid'
south zealot
diana and nocturne were super dogshit but its fine
i was getting flamed for not having vision on baron when we were fighting over dragon for LITERALLY two minutes
my bad bro
proper roost
honestly cant believe choco is a support player
i figured all warrior mains were top or junglers
next yacht
dota2>lol
south zealot
2dot>lola
modern brook
strong forum
lola > dot2
south zealot
i used to be a jungler but it was too much work and thresh is fun
crude notch
Lot2 > dola
south zealot
although i get called slurs a lot for building heartsteel sunfire every game
next yacht
When I type lol in dota my hero laughs
crude notch
Not playing grasp with heartsteel what a loser
south zealot
if i was top maybe but not as support
crude notch
although i get called slurs a lot for building heartsteel sunfire every game
Not surprising, little rat.
plush tendon
I've been playing Lethality Varus
crude notch
It's a mentality Choco. Assert dominance.
plush tendon
I like firing arrows
south zealot
assert dn
south zealot
holy moly
plush tendon
can the helm be upgraded to 447?
dark lark
nope, hero track
plush tendon
I would go 447 chest
crude notch
Lol
plush tendon
personally
dark lark
i was leaning toward that, just needed some confirmation
plush tendon
can also sim
to verify
but I feel like long term, the chest is just BiS (unless you killing Mythic Sark each week) whereas helm can be replaced
proper roost
u can always socket helm
modern gazelle
SOCKET WEEK!
jagged gust
HELM WITH FREE SOCKET WEEK
mossy elk
What is the weight of Leech/Avoid on gear? Is it worth considering in compairson to iLvl?
modern gazelle
what dps are best for sanguine? which ones have insta cast?
modern brook
What is the weight of Leech/Avoid on gear? Is it worth considering in compairson...
tertiaries should not be considered over ilvl
modern brook
what dps are best for sanguine? which ones have insta cast?
anything that doesnt require stuff to not move is probably fine. Things like destrolock lose value. fire mage technically does as well but class is so high its probably still fine even if ur pulling shit out of flamepatches
i wouldnt really think about sanguine for DPS considerations, tbh
proper roost
Probably meant volcanic huh
modern brook
š¦ idk the affixes this week
modern gazelle
i mean just in general this week takes more movement, idc THAT much just cuirious
modern brook
im just trusting what i read
proper roost
But like 75% of the time u literally dont need to move for volcanic
As a rdps
so its always considered one of the easiest affixes
modern gazelle
i still am bad at knowing all the class abilities and stuff since i only tank
proper roost
And every rdps has movement capabilities its not classic
modern gazelle
so just trying to learn whats good for what
plush tendon
for Saquine, DK is goated cause grip is really strong to move mobs.... especially those who refuse to move for stupid reasons; but it aint something you build a comp around
proper roost
ever
modern brook
yeah the affixes dont really have that large an impact on what makes a dps good in keys
modern gazelle
this week is free regardless, literally no affix basically
plush tendon
enough classes have knocks of somesort
proper roost
this season* I should prob say
modern gazelle
aug is kinda nice
proper roost
If it was like a really balanced season where every dps did same dps maybe it would favor some knockbacks
but it isnt
so
it doesnt
slow pawn
Day 1 of asking blizzard to buff prot warrior more then 5% every three patches
modern gazelle
we dont need buff we need changes
like we just dont bring anything to the table besides being tanky af
plush tendon
I mean, I dont think prot war is bad, other stuff is just still a bit broken
modern brook
pwar is literally in the exact spot it was in season 1 when everyone was talking about how broken it was
crude notch
No you
modern brook
sorry its like 5% dr less on dstance or something
crude notch
Lol
slow pawn
we lost of ton of Ignore pain generation
plush tendon
prot brings a lot of cool stuff; a aoe stun, st stun, aoe fear, intervene, spell reflect, b shout, rally
slow pawn
no way to deal with two affixes
plush tendon
lots of cool stuff
slow pawn
3 if you include raging
crude notch
You couldn't deal with raging before
modern brook
I mean 3 ccs and spell reflect, a group buff and a very strong group defensive apparently doesnt out weigh "cant handle the healer affix"
we literally turn off an entire dungeon with a 20s cd
slow pawn
Id rather not complain about bear druid cause lets be honest they rarely are this good
tacit widget
Sorry, idk how you, but my healing can 150k.... this is enough for good tanking with big pulls
And def stance i was kick from bars
modern gazelle
i think we are good as is but everyone else just is better unfortunately
still most fun tank
tacit widget
PW is good with good rotate rage gene spells
i played PW 14 years and for me is best from tanks
plush tendon
Id rather not complain about bear druid cause lets be honest they rarely are thi...
I mean, I will complain cause rarely is a meta so hardlocked as it is now; but its fruitless to continue that conversation... everyone knows thats the case and we are all in a wait and see mode
granted, its really just a M+ problem aint it?
tacit widget
+22 key in battle stance cool, 150k hps and 450k dps on trash is enough for me. Im tank no dmg
slow pawn
we have poopy ST dmge in raid to
crude notch
I mean, I will complain cause rarely is a meta so hardlocked as it is now; but i...
You can complain about meta, but Bear really isn't the outlier that people claim it to be
jagged gust
Smol bare nerf, smol pwar buff, big dk buff, we all happy family
dh probably needs a little help too, those loveable crackheads
slow pawn
Blizzard hate DH, as Havoc is crying in the corner
plush tendon
dh probably needs a little help too, those loveable crackheads
once they lose tier, itll be a sad day š¦
good tier set
proper roost
š¤Ø
solar gorge
S1 comp + dungeon and affixes fit better for prot no? Not an expert but I feel like there was way more reflect dmg in s1
proper roost
what the hell happened in the last 20 minutes
proper roost
S1 comp + dungeon and affixes fit better for prot no? Not an expert but I feel l...
Hell no lmao
crude notch
Lol
lusty tiger
wtb iron docks
proper roost
Tell me u never tanked high fort AV
solar gorge
Tell me you never tanked high tyr AA on a pwar
That was literally 1 boss that hurt
plush tendon
2nd boss was a poop time
crude notch
You're a poop time
plush tendon
bird boss was like, gotta be a dwarf and have a pre voker
then it was pretty chill
idk how they do it, but pre voker can dispell like 3 of those bleeds in a row
kind of cool
proper roost
Yeah literally just one boss
There has never been a key where u brick just based on a single boss
Stares at Brackenhide
Stares at RLP
slow pawn
they have to use stasis for it
lusty tiger
*misses a sever stop on high fort AA š°
proper roost
Tell me uve never tanked high s1 keys without telling me
Thank u for making the point incredibly clear
solar gorge
Dunno rlp and av didnāt hurt less with other tanks
lusty tiger
huh?
slow pawn
I learned a very valuable lesson about spell block in shadow moon burial grounds on a fortified week
lime urchin
šæšæšæ
slow pawn
shadow dmge sucks
crude notch
Imma say it, PWar is better now with these dungeons than in S1
proper roost
literally not happening
lusty tiger
wtb ppal
proper roost
was a no go sir
proper roost
ya but it was worst on pwar by a lot
crude notch
Like everything you listed most tanks struggled with.
slow pawn
Temple third boss can go burn in a fire to
crude notch
So you played 2 of the 6 tanks that didn't
crude notch
Yes
south zealot
what r affixes
proper roost
volc sang
south zealot
ok i consider doing keys next week
crude notch
Sanguine haters unite
lime urchin
What made your Chili corn carne fail Kanga?
crude notch
Bitterness
plush tendon
you could Divine Shield/lay on hands it right?
plush tendon
the highest temple I did was like a 23
Tyr
of the tanks I play, ease was like Blood>Prot Pal>VDH>War specifically for that boss
granted, that last pack, War was giga awesome
daring marlin
If you didn't have purg going into that last pack it could be spooky
proud tide
anotha week anotha set of no vault trinkets 
torn ginkgo
asking this in here as it relates to Last stand effect, but does using Rally cry after rashok absorb clear the absorb the same way last stand does to heal absorbs?
urban portal
It should yes
proper roost
granted, that last pack, War was giga awesome
ya the trash pack sucked as bdk
its like
u can kite
but then how do u hold threat
couldnt really effectively kite only the haunting claw mobs cuz dnd slow is the only good slow but that makes everything gigaslow and then ur just doing 0 threat and everyone else dies
proper roost
Very bad pack for bdk
plush tendon
all I remember doing was like sending everything on pull and as soon as DRW/IBF/AMS/Vamp was exhausted it was run away
proper roost
worst in all of s1
plush tendon
getting 1 tapped by those shas was not kosher
proper roost
still think its insane someone claiming pwar was better for s1 tanking than s2 for defensiveness
like the only way u could do high AA as pwar was to have a prevoker
there was no other way
plush tendon
Prot is cool this season; my issue with prot is that there are points where ya like damn this class rocks and then others where you are like 'please god have mercy on my soul'
which i guess is good balance?
which was honestly the same last season
plush tendon
you sit in b stance and treat d stance as a toggle defensive when needed
haughty sentinel
ohh
plush tendon
but otherwise, just stay in B Stance
good times to be in D Stance are like I got a nasty dot on me that cant be cleansed and I dont have a DR button up to mitigate it
crude notch
Hue hue
modern gazelle
jk, i feel like i never need it for the most part except during mythic raid
if im using it in dungeons im usually fucked either way
haughty sentinel
ty ill make a stance toggle and treat it like a CD
daring marlin
For the smoothe brained, talking specifically "rare" items are stupid.
chilly brook
Chase items are dogass when it's once a week chance
Tell me about it, I want to just reroll at this point. Raid lead came on his alt evoker for the first time to alt night reclear and got the fucking Lego item
Literally first run ever
Like I guess Iāll go kill myself
Am I unreasonably annoyed at this? Yesā¦.
lusty tiger
why would RL take an item from a long term raider lmfao
daring marlin
Am I unreasonably annoyed at this? Yesā¦.
Doesn't seem that unreasonable tbh
lusty tiger
on an alt
daring marlin
why would RL take an item from a long term raider lmfao
It's personal and not tradable, I assume.
lusty tiger
oh shit really?
chilly brook
why would RL take an item from a long term raider lmfao
Personal loot
You have no choice
jagged pier
the lego is personal loot
lusty tiger
fuuuuck
chilly brook
If you get it, it gets used automatically
crude notch
That tweet isn't talking about the lego
oh you are
wtf
inb4 apb comes in with his loadout takes
daring marlin
It's still sorta in the same vein tho
strong forum
Chase items are dogass when it's once a week chance
said it for a while now that bosses should be spammable, so progress isnt reclearing boss 1-5 every week, but you spam kill the bosses you have killed until people dont need the loot anymore and you go to the next boss without needing to permanently reclear old bosses for the sake of it
the weekly lockout is outdated imo
daring marlin
said it for a while now that bosses should be spammable, so progress isnt reclea...
but nome if you could do that WHY PLAY??????????????
chilly brook
said it for a while now that bosses should be spammable, so progress isnt reclea...
I would actually hate that tbh
crude notch
what if I keep my room temp at 100F. Now what idjit
chilly brook
Maybe itās my personality but I really hate going back to clear old bosses that weāve cleared when we could be progging
crude notch
Spam clearing the same boss over and over for loot seems weird.
daring marlin
He's literally suggesting to just spam the bosses and fuckem forever
strong forum
^
chilly brook
No but I also wouldnāt want to kill first boss and then do the boss 30 more times in one night the first mythic week
daring marlin
Go back to parse if you want
chilly brook
Iād rather just go to second
strong forum
No but I also wouldnāt want to kill first boss and then do the boss 30 more time...
and then you have to never ever again do that boss
yeah or just do all 3 bosses you can kill instantly
until you run into a wall
and then clear whatever you need for loot
and then continue prog
instead of needing to wait until next week
daring marlin
God I want the elden ring dlc already
I should just start a new playthrough
the discovery is my favorite part tho
just going in and DYING
crude notch
calm down yogi
strong forum
wouldnt change a thing
chilly brook
wouldnt change a thing
I 100% would be confident in saying the community would degen it
strong forum
yeah
daring marlin
I 100% would be confident in saying the community would degen it
like rhey do right now?
strong forum
if you dont have self control
daring marlin
With six fucking alts?
crude notch
You don't think being able to spam a boss repeatably for loot would change raid scheduling?
daring marlin
and split runs?
strong forum
not for normal guilds no
chilly brook
You don't think being able to spam a boss repeatably for loot would change raid ...
It would
strong forum
only for degens
chilly brook
Thereās no shot it wouldnāt
strong forum
but you get more steady progress
instead of 1 day of reclear
and 1 day of progress
and then 1 day of reclear again
crude notch
What are "normal guilds" in this case?
daring marlin
mfs degen always
crude notch
I'm not thinking about just hours in a week
chilly brook
With six fucking alts?
Completely different barrier to entry though
lusty tiger
should be able to kill n bosses per lockout so if the raid has 10 bosses and you can only clear the 1st one you are able to kill him for loot 10x on that id
crude notch
Vault is fine for what it's designed for people always try to compile other problems onto one design
Like catalyst
Catalyst is fine for what it's designed for.
lusty grotto
the weekly lockout is outdated imo
500% agreed
crude notch
I mean, I play PoE so I'm obviously all down for spamming something a billion times to get the loot I want
lusty grotto
the problem is the mythic lockout
strong forum
like, sure some guilds might say (because it would be new) "yo lets play alot more now"
crude notch
But I'm also not subjecting 19 other people when I do it.
lusty grotto
its way too restrictive
strong forum
but those same people are also willing to raid 6 days a week anyway
chilly brook
Me fine not being obligated to do raid more than I am already doing it a week
I got other shit to play like BG3
modern gazelle
i dont like the idea of spamming bosses, but i do think you shouldnt be locked in mythic
chilly brook
i dont like the idea of spamming bosses, but i do think you shouldnt be locked i...
This
modern gazelle
like why cant i prog a boss with multiple groups?
strong forum
Me fine not being obligated to do raid more than I am already doing it a week
who says you will be "forced" to play more?
modern gazelle
why am i stuck with ONE group for a week
crude notch
Those are two separate things. The conversation started with loot
Not the obviously stupid fact that mythic lockouts are dumb.
chilly brook
who says you will be "forced" to play more?
My brother in Christ, you spam multiple difficulties on one boss for chase items
You think it wonāt spill over if theyāre suddenly uncapped?
lusty tiger
oh no people raiding 24/7
strong forum
yeah so instead you do it all on heroic instead of normal heroic lfr
crude notch
It'd be funny in LFG
crude notch
"Rashok Spam"
modern gazelle
add chase items to 21+ dungeons or something
strong forum
only as much as you subject yourself
modern gazelle
then there is more a reason for people to do higher keys past 17's
crude notch
Any Echo spammers in chat?
modern gazelle
also while i agree chase items suck, this season has been WAY too easy to gear
like what incentive is there for the average person to play?
crude notch
Could you imagine doing it on like a 15 minute boss like Sylv
modern gazelle
you can full gear a toon to 440 in 3 days
chilly brook
like what incentive is there for the average person to play?
I donāt think your average person is 440
crude notch
average person isn't 440
strong forum
brother people are killing 300 sylvs a week for boosts
crude notch
I know
chilly brook
I wouldnāt even call myself average, and Iām not 440
modern gazelle
i didnt say average was 440, but you can easily get a 440 toon in a few days with all the mechanics now
chilly brook
You did
You implied average person has nothing to do because theyāre over 440
Because gear is too easy
modern gazelle
no...i said gear is too easy to get, there is no incentive for players to play
chilly brook
?
crude notch
You're missing the part where you literally said "average person"
chilly brook
If itās too easy to get but the average person isnāt 440ā¦ā¦
daring marlin
gainz
strong forum
i dont have incentive anymore cuz i have everything excepte vault gear š
modern gazelle
then i said its easy to get 440, doesnt mean that those players are all 440, just that its very easy to get there and at 440 you have no lock, you can do any content in the game and wont be undergeared
chilly brook
Then trhey have an incentiveā¦ā¦.
crude notch
Ah yes the average person is a theorycrafter. true nome true
chilly brook
If theyāre not maxed on gear then they have an incentive
modern gazelle
average person doesnt even do lfr
modern gazelle
but that doesnt change that gear is too easy to get
strong forum
Ah yes the average person is a theorycrafter. true nome true
all i stated was that i play for loot
not that im the average person
crude notch
That's okay that beats the guy earlier in another discord that said average person is 447.
chilly brook
Why is gear being easier to get even a bad thing???
daring marlin
but that doesnt change that gear is too easy to get
you sound unemployed
sorry not sorry
modern gazelle
you sound unemployed
you can literally hit 437 doing 11's, and anyone can do 11s
chilly brook
Like I would say this season has generally been really good on gearing
crude notch
While there's ~7000 characters that are 447 or higher which leaves over 3 million characters below average
strong forum
it was a little too easy this season
chilly brook
you can literally hit 437 doing 11's, and anyone can do 11s
With a massive time investment
crude notch
"anyone can do 11s"
daring marlin
you can literally hit 437 doing 11's, and anyone can do 11s
What's your point?
modern gazelle
With a massive time investment
??? massive time investmetn?
daring marlin
INCREDIBLE TIME INVESTMENT WHAT LOL
crude notch
I don't think you understand how much time people actually play this game
chilly brook
Playing the game 3 days straight just spamming keys is a large time investment
modern gazelle
i hit 433 when i started and i only had 4d play time including all the time i spent afk messing with addons and learning rotation and shit
crude notch
4d play time
chilly brook
chilly brook
Bro has no concept of time
lusty tiger
casual 100hrs
chilly brook
Thatās an entire playthrough of BG3
crude notch
the average person I talk to plays like 4-6 hours a week.
modern gazelle
on an mmo with leveling and everything else?
daring marlin
HOLY SHIT
chilly brook
Leveling is fast now
modern gazelle
yes 100hr for almost end game gear is not a lot
daring marlin
WHAT
crude notch
that's 16 weeks if you play 6 hours a week
chilly brook
Leveling is literally like 10 hours at best
strong forum
ive played less than that to get my gear
modern gazelle
20hr of that was me leveling cause i did it slow af with a friend
lusty grotto
its a lot Dawn, im sorry
strong forum
ive played this season about 1 HC raid and 1-4 keys a week until week 6, am i playing too much D:
modern gazelle
and its my first toon since bfa, i was slow
strong forum
thats about 3-4hrs per week
modern gazelle
if you actually are fast with it you can do it fast af
chilly brook
Sorry man I canāt be fucked to only play WoW
lusty grotto
or mom with job
crude notch
nome is dad
lusty grotto
im not a dad, i have a job and i still consider gearing alts kinda rough as it is
modern gazelle
thats great, and the average player can still get geared extremely fast
crude notch
š
chilly brook
96 hours of playtime to hit close to max gear is not an insignificant amount of time
modern gazelle
like if you dotn think gearing this season was too easy you are deluisional
thats my playltime, and yes, 96hr for an MMO
chilly brook
Youāre delusional if you think 4d played isnāt a lot
modern gazelle
i was SLOW
crude notch
We can think gearing was easy, but also think that your concept of hours and math are off.
LMAO
modern gazelle
mate, its an mmo, mmo are meant to be huge time investments, where you can take months to get geared
daring marlin
like if you dotn think gearing this season was too easy you are deluisional
sick projection lmao
lusty grotto
mate, its an mmo, mmo are meant to be huge time investments, where you can take ...
thats where youre wrong
see ffxiv
crude notch
mmos haven't been about long time investments in gearing for a long time chief
this ain't 2004
modern gazelle
thats where youre wrong
200hr to hit max level in ffxiv
on average
so 96hr to max level and gear?
chilly brook
Itās also a story
lusty grotto
thats not how it goes
chilly brook
Not really very similar
modern gazelle
lmao yes thats how ffxiv is
crude notch
bro what's your /played at max level the game should tell you
modern gazelle
you just used ffxiv as an example for a game that doesnt take time
chilly brook
FFXIV respects your time a lot they just want content to be fun
modern gazelle
when that game takes twice as long minimum to even just reach max level let alone gear
lusty grotto
it doesnt, you do 3 hunts a week, thats like 1 hr to cap tomes
modern gazelle
ffxiv respects time? it takes 200hr on average to max
lusty grotto
then you do your reclears on a 2day static
youre moving goalposts again
when did we start mentioning leveling?
again?
chilly brook
when that game takes twice as long minimum to even just reach max level let alon...
Imagine a game where āendgameā isnāt āthe only part of the gameā and using the fact that they treat leveling as a significant portion of the game as a slight against it
lusty grotto
thats 200h that you dont NEED TO DO AGAIN because you can have alt jobs on the same character
now lets go with the goalposts 96hr PER ALT
crude notch
Anyone that's an M+ player that's interested in pushing likes the gearing system.
Anyone that's a log frog doesn't like the gearing system because they have nothing to look forward to.
warm plinth
I'll do you again
lusty grotto
you sure you can say ffxiv doesnt respect your time????
warm plinth
Gottem
chilly brook
Youāre literally applying WoW logic to FFXIV when itās a different game in how it approaches content
chilly brook
MMOs donāt all have to be āthe only thing worth caring about is max levelā
daring marlin
you sure you can say ffxiv doesnt respect your time????
Of course it doesn't. You have to level the other jobs in multiple different ways! 
modern gazelle
an alt in this game takes no time, especially with all the new mechanics
lusty grotto
ok im done, Dawn is in that copium WoW-Andy phase
crude notch
I challenge you Dawn
daring marlin
an alt in this game takes no time, especially with all the new mechanics
You're not making the point you think you are here btw
crude notch
To gear an alt
modern gazelle
To gear an alt
i literally helped my friend hgear his 13 alts
crude notch
You also seem to think 96 hours of play time is... fast
warm plinth
Everyone has people to help them gear guys
modern gazelle
ITS A FUCKING MMO
daring marlin
HELLO WAS IT YOUR TANK?
warm plinth
You also seem to think 96 hours of play time is... fast
Wdym it's only 4 days
crude notch
Just don't sleep š
daring marlin
warm plinth
Exactly
crude notch
Or have a life
chilly brook
ITS A FUCKING MMO
Sorry I didnāt realize MMO meant you have to only play for gear and it should take you 500 hours of gameplay at max level to hit max gear
crude notch
Dawn like "I play wow 40 hours a week how can people not gear as fast as me"
lusty grotto
ITS A FUCKING MMO
thats the copium talking, sorry man but "time investment" moves with the time, just like WoW reduced time investment applied to things in EQ1 an dother MMOs have reduced it in response with WoW
proper roost
i play 28 hours a day how do people not gear as fast as me
crude notch
I wish WoW was a fucking mmo, lord knows i'm down bad rn
proper roost
didn't dawn only start doing keys like 8 weeks into the season too lol
strong forum
this is getting eerily hostile
hollow bolt
daring marlin
proper roost
i'm arguing with my business's ISP right now because the owner is too lazy to change it and delegated the task to me
which SUCKS
Madge
daring marlin
haha you loser
proper roost
I do feel like a loser rn
daring marlin
Imagine being you
crude notch
i love his chat cover
lusty grotto
was it socket week for you too Guil?
crude notch
GUILFORD
lusty grotto
hmm its either socket or transmog
crude notch
oof
lusty grotto
xD
weary saddle
there is a special brand of humour in protwar channel this df expansion that is absent in other tank channels
crude notch
How do we feel about metas being essentially decided by tier set bonuses?
crude notch
Sam's Choice
lusty grotto
but i want Maker's Mark š¦
crude notch
Are we like gourmet Chef Boyardee or are we Sam's Choice?
lusty grotto
lusty tiger
aldi brand
cinder storm
Man, I got some Vienna sausages from Aldi's, it was 90% salt
crude notch
food lion brand lmao
lusty tiger
winn-dixie brand
crude notch
and we're talking the food lion that's like in the slums
lusty tiger
i didnt know there were other kinds
crude notch
trueeeeee
strong forum
cinder storm
Based chatter
chilly brook
I have a problem guys
crude notch
Bro I've seen people with 100 hours that are in Act 2. idk
chilly brook
this is more accurate though
crude notch
Too busy rizzing
strong forum
we spent 36hrs in act 1
20hrs in act 2
chilly brook
I had early access time
strong forum
act 2 had very few quests
lusty tiger
Yo I went to Meijer today
basically publix
strong forum
cuz things happened
crude notch
How many people have you boinked nome?
strong forum
0
crude notch
no rizz
lusty tiger
nome dont boink and tell
crude notch
smh
daring marlin
basically publix
Shut up, Florida man.
cinder storm
I've only played 8 hrs in total
chilly brook
also y'all scaring me that the game is only 100hrs
100 is something around what they said a more complete playthrough might look like
that being said I'm at like 60 and in Act 3
proper roost
i finished the whole thing around 80, but I skipped all dialogue (fast reader)
chilly brook
granted not super far into Act 3
cinder storm
They changed the intro quite a lot, it's shorter now
proper roost
every time i'm like "i'm gonna listen to this entire dialogue this time"
crude notch
nope
proper roost
i get bored on the second line and skip
the voice acting is good but i am deeply impatient
chilly brook
ironically I'm kinda starting over, I got myself into a pickle and don't feel like loading an earlier save to unfuck it rn
proper roost
anyway i'm certain that shaved off a serious amount of hours
warm plinth
I don't blame you
chilly brook
anyway i'm certain that shaved off a serious amount of hours
for sure
strong forum
nome dont boink and tell
no, its moreso that nobody likes to boink
warm plinth
I haven't seen like 90% of WoW's cutscenes because I skip them even the first time
strong forum
laezel is dead, shadowheart is gone, halsin is gone, gale is temporarily gone
modern brook
i get bored on the second line and skip
My man is blj-ing socialization
proper roost
i mean I read the subtitles i just can't really stand sitting through slowly delivered lines
god i just realized if i could skip through dialogue in movies i'd watch movies in like 20 minutes
chilly brook
laezel is dead, shadowheart is gone, halsin is gone, gale is temporarily gone
not baezel
strong forum
wasnt me who killed her
cinder storm
Damn nome, you woke up and choose violence
crude notch
I haven't seen like 90% of WoW's cutscenes because I skip them even the first ti...
i do this then go on a binger of watching 4 hours of WoW cinematics lmao
proper roost
My man is blj-ing socialization
wtf what a reference
warm plinth
strong forum
and yeah, nobody else likes me enough
warm plinth
did you manage to find one that had all of them Jordan?
strong forum
0 rizz IRL and 0 rizz in game when youre supposed to have like 6 people in love with you
cinder storm
Play warlock, easiest way to summon a gf 
chilly brook
0 rizz IRL and 0 rizz in game when youre supposed to have like 6 people in love ...
L+watio
crude notch
I watched 2 hours of Legion cinematics the other day
warm plinth
:nodders
strong forum
idk apparently its not uncommon that people think im an asshole or unpleasant
crude notch
I've never thought ill of Nome ever. 
modern brook
0 rizz IRL and 0 rizz in game when youre supposed to have like 6 people in love ...
No-rizz-atur
strong forum
its true
modern brook
Fuck clouds
chilly brook
Also this game solidified itself as one of my favorite RPGs of all time with a specific encounter and the music they were playing with it
cinder storm
Clouds duck
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
proper roost
idk apparently its not uncommon that people think im an asshole or unpleasant
Wtf
Ur the... one of the... a... hm
cinder storm
I felt like I was in a FFXIV boss fight with vocals and everything
FF16 is like shadowbringers all over again, on steroids
proper roost
relatively speaking no!
lusty tiger
nome is nice and patient
daring marlin
Owneratur
cinder storm
I have weirder friends than all of you meshed together, and they have fucked, if they can so can anyone here
lusty tiger
inspirational
cinder storm
inspirational
Ty 
lusty tiger
: D
daring marlin
lmao
proper roost
i spend 96 hours every day
daring marlin
why do you hate ducks
lusty tiger
^
lusty grotto
is monstrous gluttony one of those shields that is only on this season like the HoV shields?
proper roost
why do you hate ducks
Did
I
Stutter
i'm on a 30 minute long hold now btw
all so i can save my boss $20 (which I will not be paid)
Kill me just drag a rusty knife through my throat
Give me tetanus so i curl up and die
crude notch
I once was dumb enough to sit on hold for 2 hours to set up a doctor's appt
that was a vibe
proper roost
i hate business owners
lusty grotto
man having 441 helm/chests still feels fucking bad
crude notch
Kanga known hater of all things
lusty grotto
i cant even use a socket on the helm
frank dust
what stats should i put on crafted items
modern brook
i hate business owners
Imagine if a duck owned a lemonade stand
crude notch
got any grapes?
crude notch
what stats should i put on crafted items
crit/haste is the most favorable
modern brook
They fly so I'd imagine yeah pretty far
cinder storm
How do you know this
proper roost
their bodies are round enough that they're perfectly bounceable
None of them would be able to man a lemonade stand in my presence
frank dust
may i ask why crit haste vs sometihng like vers/haste
lusty grotto
because crit gives more damage, and defensiveness than versa
frank dust
ah ok
lusty grotto
in the form of parry
crude notch
also because it takes a stupendous amount of vers to even make a difference.
lusty grotto
versa is okay, its just not as good until maybe (and sense has done 28/29s with crit) a high key level
cinder storm
Do ducks accept cash or card only?
crude notch
venmo
lusty tiger
zelle
cinder storm
Man I'm old
lusty tiger
check
crude notch
Bubbles out here scouring through his penny jar
cinder storm
Curse jar
crude notch
normal?
cinder storm
People?
crude notch
WHADDUHEK IS NORMAL?
lusty grotto
no, its .5 this week
modern brook
How many sparks could you possibly need
lusty grotto
craft was last week
crude notch
How many sparks could you possibly need
all of them
modern brook
There's only like 16 slots
sick sentinel
oh.... hmm...... after i do my 1500 quest, i'll be on a .5 again
proper roost
Craft for offspecs obviously
lusty grotto
yes yogi
sick sentinel
and i took 2, maybe it equalized
modern brook
Craft for offspecs obviously
Off spec š¤®
proper roost
Susge
haughty sentinel
returning player just dinged 70 5 mins ago. Spend my Rift token on Axe or Shield?
proper roost
what is a rift token
lusty grotto
its from the time rifts
cinder storm
The event token
haughty sentinel
Dilated Time Capsule
proper roost
oh isn't that like a fucking 402 lol
sick sentinel
pretty much only thing i can craft now is another ring and pepega trinket or more realistically 2h
proper roost
don't spend it on either weapon or shield, craft a 424 shadowflame weapon and shield
time rifts suck don't waste time doing that trash
lusty grotto
he just came back, might need the catch up
haughty sentinel
i dinged 5 minutes ago. it didnt suck. i enjoyed it for what it was and i got a veteran item.
sick sentinel
i only ran 3 tiem events total
cinder storm
Pardon Kanga, he is still on hold with customer service
proper roost
Nah time rifts are a shit way to catch up
sick sentinel
time events
cinder storm
It does things to you I tell ya
proper roost
i did a bunch on my alt to try and gear and its just objectively worse than spamming 11s
lusty grotto
i dinged 5 minutes ago. it didnt suck. i enjoyed it for what it was and i got a ...
do the 5x heroic quests and the zaralek caverns thing
proper roost
or ideally 15s, but 11s is fine
modern brook
i did a bunch on my alt to try and gear and its just objectively worse than spam...
Gotta get to 11s somehow tho
lusty grotto
5x heroic dungeons is weekly
proper roost
Eh you can easily tank 11s at 400 ilvl
and you can get to 400 ilvl by just boes and shadowflame crafts
modern brook
Fresh ding 70 puts you at what like 310?
lusty grotto
get that 1st spark asap
proper roost
Fresh ding 70 puts you at what like 310?
No way more, because you have like 8 shadowflame crafts instantly
lusty grotto
also timewalking weekly quest
proper roost
And then if you do LFR Sark you have a wyrm crest also
haughty sentinel
do the 5x heroic quests and the zaralek caverns thing
ty. that rewards a veteran item or crest. the same as a rift once per week right?
sick sentinel
It does things to you I tell ya
i just turn them on speaker phone
proper roost
So actually the shield is a 437
modern gazelle
Sorry I didnāt realize MMO meant you have to only play for gear and it should ta...
free to think what you want, mmo arent single player, they shouldnt take 10hr to hit max level and gear. They are games that keep you busy for long periods of time and should have repeatable content that can keep you engaged. But we clearly have diff views so you do you
sick sentinel
and hit 0
lusty grotto
ty. that rewards a veteran item or crest. the same as a rift once per week right...
yea
haughty sentinel
ty
modern brook
No way more, because you have like 8 shadowflame crafts instantly
I don't play Alts š¦
proper roost
i do
i have obsessed about fast gearing
and time rifts unfortunately suckass for it
modern brook
More like time rips I guess
chilly brook
free to think what you want, mmo arent single player, they shouldnt take 10hr to...
I wasn't aware that suddenly when you get a piece of gear that content becomes irrelevant
modern gazelle
I wasn't aware that suddenly when you get a piece of gear that content becomes i...
for most people io doesnt matter, so when gear is too easy to get the content becomes irrelevant, but like i said no point discussing we clearly have diff views
haughty sentinel
so dont spend veteran token on either shield or weap? 100% get them crafted when i save the crests?
modern gazelle
waste of time and cluttering the discord for anyone who needs a serious question
sick sentinel
for serious players of wow i think transmog is a pillar of wow these days
get ready to run a 20 with your bros, and see wahat dumb ass shit they are wearing this time
lusty grotto
for serious players of wow i think transmog is a pillar of wow these days
yogi, do you know if the NL shield is like a one time per season thing like the HoV shields?
crude notch
shadowflame crafts.... require you to get sparks kanga.
cinder storm
Born, realistically, it depends what your goal is right now, if you are planning on just having fun you do you, but you are here because you probably want to mix max
chilly brook
for most people io doesnt matter, so when gear is too easy to get the content be...
again for most people they aren't even close to max ilvl
sick sentinel
lair sheild one time per season huh?
daring marlin
lair sheild one time per season huh?
He was asking you, shield lord!
lusty grotto
im guessing it is since its not a regular drop
crude notch
for most people io doesnt matter, so when gear is too easy to get the content be...
I hate to tell you this Dawn, but for most people the content is irrelevant gear or not.
daring marlin
good way to tell is just check the journal but considering it's just like HoV, probably
I wish I didn't trade my HoV shield away
crude notch
NIM
warm plinth
I GOT
lusty grotto
yeah i did that, also wowhead
warm plinth
FORGESTORM ON MY ROGUE
warm plinth
lusty grotto
it was aadded in ver 10 so
crude notch
qw[]el
sick sentinel
crude notch
POGGIES ME DOGGIES
lusty grotto
wat happen jordan
sick sentinel
game says i've collected it
sick sentinel
thats the one you mean?
haughty sentinel
Born, realistically, it depends what your goal is right now, if you are planning...
whoever replied ty for your answer. it got lost in the spittle brigade but it was appreciated. ty.
crude notch
i'm sane, i promise
lusty grotto
LMAO
haughty sentinel
oh it was bubble. ty ty.
crude notch
BUBBLES
cinder storm
My job here is done
crude notch
That's Mr. Bubbles toyou
cinder storm
Ty Jordan
sick sentinel
i think possibly if you wanted the shield in that color variation
cinder storm
Ahem, Ty Jordan (Taylor's version)
lusty grotto
oh wait
crude notch
Do the 10.1.0 campaign @haughty sentinel in zeralakk (intentionally spelled wrong š ) caverns you'll get a bunch starter stuff
sick sentinel
not the same color
lusty grotto
yeah but the purple is the one thats new
crude notch
Kanga has brain rot and doesn't realize you can't instantly zone into 11s in this economy
haughty sentinel
Do the 10.1.0 campaign <@201995253077508096> in zeralakk (intentionally spelled ...
Merci.
lusty grotto
do the 5x heroic quests and the zaralek caverns thing
i said that too @haughty sentinel
lusty grotto
this season is that model but the face is purple
crude notch
i said that too <@201995253077508096> <:sadge:820202363359854633>
Yeah but I'm louder and far more annoying
haughty sentinel
š¤š»
sick sentinel
there you are
haughty sentinel
i said that too <@201995253077508096> <:sadge:820202363359854633>
ty
sick sentinel
SoO
lusty grotto
yeah its not exclusive to this season like the HoV shield
i wonder if there's any item thats exclusive to this season
lusty grotto
probably because you have it
sick sentinel
some appearances are hidden
like there is a really nice red and black skulls shield in legion
it, along with tons of other stuff, doesn't appear, until you have ti
lusty grotto
this is what it says for me
sick sentinel
lusty grotto
man should i even do reclears this week, i still need echo sword
haughty sentinel
oh time rift gear can be used in the catalyst. ill save token to complete a 4pc maybe.
sick sentinel
maybe because i only have it from the 1 out of X possible places it can drop
proper roost
that was so productive
spent 2 hours on the phone to get a guy who barely spoke any english that yelled at me for not understanding what he was saying
and then he hung up after i said give me one sec to talk to my boss
:hmph:
i cannot fathom how commercial sales reps get away with being ruder than residential sales reps
modern brook
L 20 dollars š
proper roost
can u explain what the resto druid changes on ptr are like @crude notch
i heard trees were giga op, is it nerfed now or what
mighty valley
i cannot fathom how commercial sales reps get away with being ruder than residen...
the corps have run the numbers and improved customer service experiences just don't really affect the bottom line
not enough to be worth the investment anyway
proper roost
i don't think you understand what i'm complaining about
crude notch
can u explain what the resto druid changes on ptr are like <@714890000189358110>
instead of nerfing the new talent (or fixing it) they're just nerfing the whole spec.
trees are strong
They're just not functioning how they should so they're stronger than they should e.
lusty tiger
do they finally get to be rejuv > regrowth in m+ again?
crude notch
no no trees in this topic is in reference to their new talent
Grove Guardians, which literally spawns trees that do healing
lilac bloom
Got the Cape of sakaris dropped on heroic and I have the tank trinket 441 from brake hide. Which one should I take the 444 clock that gives me 2nd stat or the tank trinket which I can upgrade to 447
warm plinth
it, along with tons of other stuff, doesn't appear, until you have ti
It's likely because other items share the appearance. I've obtained mogs before that show in the appearance tab as something else because they only list one item for the appearance, not all of them
strong forum
sark cloak is a downside to run in m+
so if you dont have a replacement i'd say you pick the cloak
lilac bloom
I do have a 447 crafted cloak vibrant wildercloth shawl
lilac bloom
I see.... I guess trink it is.
At the moment my current trinket are Natharions call to chaos 447 and enduring Dredplate 447 as well
unique pike
can i ask a question?
strong forum
of course
unique pike
should i play brutal vitality or fueled by violence for m+?
strong forum
doesnt matter much between the 2
warm plinth
BrV is generally the play but the difference isn't significant
unique pike
ok thanks for the answer
crude notch
yw
hazy gate
are there preferences, as e.g. there are heal reduces in freehold
lusty grotto
no
and if youre talking about oiled blade, you should be reflecting every other one
hazy gate
ok, great
haughty sentinel
/wa
south zealot
sark cloak is a downside to run in m+
if u had 457 sark cloak would u run it over 447 normal cloak
proper roost
They're just not functioning how they should so they're stronger than they shoul...
how are they supposed to function? dont they just wg once then spam nourish or something
proper roost
if u had 457 sark cloak would u run it over 447 normal cloak
procs a lot when ur NOT tanking :^)
sick sentinel
is this spore whatever crafted cloak discussion again?
lusty grotto
no
south zealot
ok
sick sentinel
if yes, the results turned out to be its bad, i dont use it and i didnt do the math
strong forum
also its really funny to see people complain about the kalimdor cup
lotsa people being bad at pressing ascend
strong forum
shits hard yo
sick sentinel
i think the main issue is
proper roost
especially when its free
crude notch
how are they supposed to function? dont they just wg once then spam nourish or s...
effectively the trees themselves have no gcd, they immediately cast swiftmend and then immediately start casting WG.
They also could be incredibly strong if they interacted with RDru's kit at all, but they don't.
warm plinth
The only one of those races I haven't golded the first time through are those awkward ones that let you go whichever way
proper roost
Neat
warm plinth
I haven't done all of them though, just several of them
sick sentinel
i do reverse first, then hard mode then easy
proper roost
Yeah they sound pretty unfun idk what it is with blizz and just making healing stream totem as rotational healer buttons
warm plinth
Do they not use cloudburst?
proper roost
Tyrs deliverance just turns the hpal into a hst for 60 seconds
sick sentinel
if you can gold reverse, you can gold easy mode
proper roost
Do they not use cloudburst?
I mean for other healers
The rdruid trees are just a passive heal that you slap down without any thought
tyrs deliverance (hpal) is a passive heal you just slap down without any thought
warm plinth
oh
proper roost
idk about mw and priest
But its kinda shit design
its kinda like if all ur dps abilities suddenly did 30% less
but deep wounds got buffed 400%
Its like
crude notch
and their nourishes aren't smart heals either so it's a free raw 9k hps that's dumb.
lusty tiger
bad but good : D
proper roost
ur actual impact keeps lowering cuz the passive healing keeps getting buffed
south zealot
nourish dn
proper roost
which is obviously the opposite of what u want
since u personally dont feel impactful
u just press the rotation and it heals enough
or so u hope
warm plinth
It's a similar feeling to when they put all those spells on GCD and then had to go back and put the instant damage/healing on them because they just felt shit to press
just felt like you were doing nothing for a global
which is especially shit for a healer who is popping the CD to keep people alive lol
lusty tiger
u just press the rotation and it heals enough
losing by not being gcd perfect in your cooldown windows timed with the correct mechanics also kinda sucked
proper roost
on an unrelated note
lusty tiger
imo
proper roost
i haven't had a post work beer forever
and it kinda owns
especially when the beer is free
lusty tiger
^
warm plinth
Yeah love drinking vomit that was accidentally swallowed then vomited up again
warm plinth
Nah I just don't like the taste of any alcohol (inb4 "acquired taste") and I don't really care to be drunk so
warm plinth
More power to you if you like it though