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what stats should i craft on my shield tho
crit/versa?
or haste/crit
im already 16/35/14/44
@lusty grotto
ok ty
ok important tip all do not buy kroger chorizo
this is the worst chorizo ive ever had in my life
how do did they even fuck up something like chorizo

i couldnt think of his full name
is it fried or dry cured?
yogi it's only cuz of the mode
there's a torghast power that makes his abilities crit
ergo
it allows his ult to crit
so it only really works on his R as his E and Q can crit already but it also gives 20% crit too
shit was hilarious
@lusty grotto HELLO NIM
i pan fried it
could be a skill issue but it was really rubbery even uncooked so
also tbf it was reduced and old so probably that had a major contributing factor. it was only $2 w/e

Yeah chorizo is fatty even by what I'd consider American standards, doubt you could fuck it up hard enough on your own. probably just some bad meat
Gif unrelated I just thought that shit was hilarious
it doesnt taste spoilt by itself, just the texture is wack
i've cooked plenty of past expiry date meat and its been fine so idk
did you know there's something called woody breasts that makes chicken meat have a firm and squeaky texture?
i've heard of that but I only buy thighs so never run into it

i have to buy the cheapest possible shit im def not buying cheap chicken breast, thats just asking for crap
cheap thighs are fine cuz megafarms dont breed for ass clapping chicken

One day...
i'm never responding to you again
I love chorizo
at least I got a few passable tacos out of it

i'm innocent
gimme some tacos
lady
double wood supplements are the best
they're gonna give me a free bottle of L-Theanine 
i'll give you some double wood if u know what i mean
Does anybody know if I can find a list of which spells are most effective to use spell reflection on?
I'm thinking about situations like last Boss in HOI, which is doing two spells in a row which you can reflect but the second one is doing much more damage.
There's a spreadsheet in the pinned message's for that.
Thank you π
what in the everliving astro fuck
lol
Density day owns
hell yeah, fuck ronnie deadlifts are life
What's my best means of dealing with ticks in underrot if people fuck up
do I just die?
Dwarf racial can clear one set, as can evoker dispel
First pull of underrot, 3 people died to the maggot frontal and then buttpulled all the ticks
feels so bad losing bloodsurge for shield block
do we do lariat neck or frostfire belt + shadowflame armor patch embellishment
I do 2x Shadowflame
you can also do ffb
Lariat is meh specially without all sockets
no we dont do lariat
see pins
What dungeons would you run spell block? Nelthrus seems like one for sure. any others?
lol should have check that first
? why would you be the one who dies
ticks do way more group dam than tank dam
These are not mutually exclusive
no it isn't
all your cds are up at the start of the instance
Press them you dumb ape
any suggestions on what to put the shadowflame armor patch on
447 crafted items you donβt expect to get any replacements for
so shield prolly?
that is a popular choice yes
cuz im prolly not going to do mythic
sark
or nelth
forgot which one hsa the shield
echo
so uh, if i want to take battle scarred veteran to counter some bad healers and to hopefully prevnet one wipe once in a while, im guessing i should take battering ram out? or something else?
wasn't expecting that, never seen the actual events for tcg
they cant find interupt button is it?
yep
keep pulling random worms
can't dodge spells
this one dude has died like 6 times on the runback after releasing
because of pulling mobs we skipped
sounds like you aint gonna time it π¦
season 1 numbers lol
I'm petty so I checked, for that key level he's the 15th worst ret paladin
I'm a tank main. I have acquired a tremendous amount of mental fortitude.
Telling people to intentionally leave keys.
Stopping everything mid key to talk about the route.
Leaving keys right before last boss.
Randomly creeping on others of your class in Valdrakken to tell them their build is wrong.
Hunting down historic logs of your DPS after doing a key.
Y'all need therapy, not more wow
"Telling people to intentionally leave keys."
not me
my policy on leaving a group is, it depends on the severity and cause and frequency of the wipes or other factors
like, tyranical, get to the first boss, lust, die at boss with 5% hp
that key is toast
so its like, basically like, 2-3 wipes for me
i swear it should be, if you get to a boss, and you do a lust that is succesful and you wipe to the boss within 2 minutes from time of hitting lust, the exhuastion counter gets cut in half one to minimum of 5 minutes, cant go below that.
even sucks in raids, basically gotta take 10 minutes between each pull (some you can reset it on, ya)
lust resets on every raid boss yogi
you still gotta do the everyone tags it and runs out right
no
an npc outside of every raid boss?
no
just have an invis class tag it and invis/vanish/feign
i can remember since at least bfa or shadowlands always had to have everyone hit the boss once and then 1 guy drags them over a bridge where they de-spawn
and if someone didnt get a tag, they wouldnt get lust, so you'd need to pull again
i want to say it happened on halondrous, but my game captures don't go back that far
I'm petty so I checked, for that key level he's the 15th worst ret paladin
GET IT TWISTED, START GAMBLING YOU WILL REBUILD YOUR LIFE
6 9 is risky to keep hand imo, thats thing about poker, you keep thinking he dont have a bigger straight or 3 of kind, then he do
Friends dog wonβt leave me alone for pets
Won $15 back on a 9 10 straight all the flush havers folded before the river lmao
i did
D:
was that the tank or?
it was my guildie, druid was the tank
Boi is OUT
dat me
oh bb

man guardian bear is just easy mode
yet I had a guardian druid that got one shot by trash in freehold a few days ago lol
first time I saw that happen
That can happen if you don't have rage going into a pull
And don't press a CD in preparation
big squish without proper planning
I got a couple questions about macros. First, is it possible to make a macro to use Shield Charge when it's available and regular charge when it's not? Second, is it a good idea or absolutely awful idea to macro Avatar onto Thunderous Roar since they both have the same cooldown so that I don't forget Avatar exists?
They don't have the same cooldown though once you factor in Anger Management.
True, but I tend to end up popping avatar once per combat if I'm lucky
That sounds like you need a WA that shoots flashing lights or yells at you when Avatar is available.
wyrmrest accord?
WeakAura
And to come back to your initial questions:
- No you can't have macro conditionals
- It's an absolutely awful idea to macro avatar w/ roar for the reasons above
(Plus, Shield Charge is somethnig you'll hit more or less on CD, so you should have it bound somewhere else than your charge that you won't use in melee range)
... but i only use shield charge to charge at people?
You should use it for more than that.
SC owns
u should u charge for that
SC is actually a dps cd and should be used during avatar and demo windows
it will alwyas line up with demo as its the same cd
Sorry if I sound like I don't know how to play. I'm admittedly super casual, I just want to be able to tank low level mythics for my friends if they need it, y'know?
you're asking questions and looking to improve and that's more than 95% of the playerbase, so.
^
and this is a place where we give u advice on how to imporve we cant stop u making a macro of SC and charge we are always going to recommend not doing so becase it is the incorrect way
Plus, tanking tends to be easier for me than DPSing. I'm good at positioning and keeping enemies on me, not so much at knowing when to burst and the proper rotation, I tend to click things as they go on cooldown or start to glow
Apart from defensive pops, I do know when to use those, I practiced getting the hang of reflexively pouring rage into ignore pain, keeping shield block up, etc
So I'll keep in mind to use Shield Charge more often and line it up with Demo/Avatar, but is it still okay for me to use it to enter engagements?
On the dps side of things, just use the dps cool-downs on cool-down initially
The only real reason to use shield charge to engage is if you have no shield block, no rage and you expect the pack to kill you as you enter
Psycho behavior. https://vxtwitter.com/Leyguardian/status/1690634207687548928?t=kuLyU9ALHBSmGAm3vd2XwA&s=19
who let kohl out of his kennel?
I'd be the same ngl
i wouldnt extort people, i'd AT BEST ask people if they really wanted to finish or not
but generally just run it down mid and finish it
Oh I mean I'd not take the gold but finish it while being Omega salty about it
eh
" it was an displeasure playing with y'all :3" leaves
sauce
sounds like crucial missing info
It happened to me once 
and also different story from "was going fine"
friend of mine found their log
and they had 22 deaths before reaching last boss
Yikes
and gained another extra 23 deaths on last boss
23 totally or...
Yeah that's a /leave
After 4 wipes, I don't think they would've had the DPS to meet the check.
Wouldn't the 2 stack dot make them do worse-than-prog DPS?
it reduces the dmg you deal?
i thought it just hurts you
and that dot is outhealable even on a +30
"was going fine" 
the dot does reduce damage but only by 2% per stack now
they giganerfed it multiple times
and the stack clears after like 20s
it isnt permanent like it used to be (it wouldnt have persisted after death anyway)
ye idk how it works almost never had it happen
Either way
people lyin as per usual 
story sounds kinda sus tho
How find logs of a key that didnt complete
Who uploaded

This is interesting enough I will go find it myself
damn that palshay guy's r.io is
horrific
lmao
so many deplete keys..
ok actually this entire tweet is fake news
#1 - they actually did complete it
hold on i gotta look up this person's character
lizzard should just straighy up ban tgese people no reason given
give them as big as a fuck yiu as they give to group
how about no
yeah no shit you just believe the guy who's lying about his 55 minute +16
that they completed anyway
if i spent 55 minutes in a 16 key
and we hadnt killed the final boss
i might b3 tempted to ask 50k too
No fucking shit that's literally why that guy sent that message
So shut the fuck up yogi you dumbass
how about i dont and say i did
i dunjo, i dont see the huge deal i guess, only a 16
if i was i that situation, i would complete the key and drop group micro second key is over
already did that at least once in past week or so
can't find the log, pretty sure the assertion that half the deaths were pre first boss might be a lie idk @strong forum
i scoured a lot
im staying till its done but second its done fuck you guys, im out.
unless you can see that on r.io
which i don't think you can?
either way 100% liar about the state of the key
thats the raider io website
so should be able to take one of tgose names and pug it in ans get results if you are so inclined
okay, and?
i dont wanna stay in some 20 minutes over key, fuck that man
less rewards, more repair bill, hard to blame him
being a WCL employee helps in finding logs π
hearts out to the owner of that key at any rate
i want to see the actual log
anyway, fuck that person
actual fake news spreading outrage click farmer
also the worst person in their own key (normal but w/e)
unless hes the paladin asking 50k
gibe log nom
i hav3 always found logging culture a bit weird
and sims, since days of "agility equivilance points" in 200X wrath spread sheet, same with logs, i remember i did some lfr didnt even post the logs and someones got it and can share it
just a game to me, want to have a good time or laugh and forget the details
logging is only relevant if you want to improve
nothing else
its the same as people using fit bands or counting calories in their diet
something to benchmark yourself
not necessary whatsoever, but a neat tool
How else I am going to be mad about PI if I don't log

Wait
I only log to get mad at PI

Yogi, did you ever upload your last video? Strim when?
story of my life with uldamans lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHUBIWcbaGg this one is like a day or 2 ago uploaded, and the key ran in last 36 hours from that @cinder storm
they are unlisted so you can share them but the reason i dont public them is because they have real name friends on them, amongst other reasons chief being "its self promotion!!!!" no..... its unlisted video with 7 views lmao
ya, to pwar discord, the only discord i ever speak in
Does your mom watch? 
hell no, she wouldnt want to hear trump call joe biden the sleepy moron
i had some ai presidents in 2 of my videos
like, i love fps games right, but i don't normally enjoy the pvp modes for those as much as frequently now that im older
i find the stories and the guns and the shooting and all the destruction and music and cutscenes to be the best parts
cuz typically, there is a million other games, or one big game that does the gun thing and does pvp well, pubg or overwatch or somethin, if i want gun pvp i'd go to those, right

love it when 1 person feeds their ass off
name an FPS you have played that isnt doom or half life or halo or cod
4000 hours of destiny 2 between forsaken and lightfall
destiny yep
Its the one game where i regret getting invested so much
Did you have fun while you were playing it?
im tempted to say no destiny either, but thats a pretty good answer
I had fun with friends. We couldve played minesweeper and had the same fun 
then the time was well spent
what im saying, is, name a lesser known fps you have played
I know youre not talking to me but im trying to think of one anyways
Ghost Recon future soldier
no fuck no fps its tpv
metal gear solid
i played like, 90% of them, anything thats on civvie11 youtube channel i've played 75% of those
Bungie just axed gambit and crucible. No more pvp there anyways
i never tried ghostrecon to best of my knowledge, sounds fun might have to check it out if its on sale one day
I think they are both on game pass
Wildlands is 100%
Future soldier is 10 years old so you can have it for 5 anyways
i played the~~ first tom clancy 3d game~~ splintercell, the fancy for its time 2002 or 2004 game
In 2002 i was 10 years old so no shooters for me. The first one i truly remember was vice city
I think i turned 14 when i got it for my birthday
Apart from Division i think tom clancy titles are pretty niche tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfAUUU6KUw0 i had this for psp, have to control 4 men to do militar missions
Description
Tactical Strike is the third hand-held game in the long-line of the SOCOM series. This one differs from its console cousins. Not only can the player choose to control a squad of US Navy Seals, but the player can alternatively decide to control one of several foreign units that have roles comparable to the SEALS, such as the Dutch KCT...
that one, link changed
a bit, but its real time
he can an should be use stealth elements or gear, but hes not
Question: with the exception of the 4 tier pieces, all the rest of my gear is crafted and I have gone all in on the haste/vers. atm my haste is 5804 (38%) and vers is 5523 (27%). I did this based on what I had heard before that vers is a tad better than crit, but now I see in the pin here, and on the method website, that crit has some edge over vers. I wanted to ask which one is actually better (I do a lot of solo content, raids up to the first few mythic bosses, and max 20-22 keys)? thanks in advance for any potential advice π
Str>>>haste>crit
looks like he wasn't very disciplined
Hey man I had that too on the psp but Iβm not even 30

i beat the final mission
it took so long to upgrade the snipers to have enough ammo
Crit and vers are relatively equal but most people now would recommend crit; although vers gives damage reduction, its impossible to get enough of it to actually make a difference. Therefore, better to get the better damage stat in crit. However, always sim yourself to double check what stats are best for you.
kek
Wait, you work for WCL? π€ How's the pay?
i dont, but a friend of mine does
IO truly means nothing. I wasnt convinced. Now i am. 3150 IO shadow priest focusing breakers instead of pelters. Not a single interrupt. No vampiric embrace used either. Holy shit. 110k overall in NL23
Sry for ranting but this is the only place where i think ppl understand my plight and i find solace lmao 
The thing with meta is, many have high io just because they are meta, they get invites, and the 4 others players keep going no matter how bad one of them is because might as well
true and real
Ya its crazy. Just had a holy pala with 3019 IO telling me my route was shit even tho i played the most upvoted one on keystone guru. Its crazy. All the plebs that get 3k with an exodia class think they are suddenly good
I didn't even know upvoting routes on keystone guru was a thing
I gotta see this route now lol
Most imported one is at the top. Just called it upvoted
"You're route is bad and you should feel bad"
REFUSES TO EXPLAIN WHY
leaves the group
The Weekly Route Series showcases Mythic+ strategies that are tailored towards the Beginner and Intermediate levels of Mythic+. In other words, the following route imports are designed with the following criteria in mind:
Easy to execute - particularly in pick-up-groups (PUGs)
Good tradeoffs between skipping the most difficult enemy forces while...
Yeah he did
He said shit route and insta left
any chance you have a log of it
Let me check
This part is dumb
Switch to the other 3 mobs all at once, drop the shaper in the cave in 2nd boss room
Double pelter packs are the worst ones in the dungeon; idk why you would intentionally add one
What level was this key?
Because people are retarded and die to fixate mobs every single time
Just stun the fixate
Raging and stuff
If he's stunned as he crosses 70% or during his cast, he never transforms
He won't be raged at 70%
Interesting. DIdnt know that
Ill change my route then
Pala couldve told me but decided to flame instead
Hmm
Okay good
What was the key level
Other than that, the route is pretty normal
Ill defo flip pull 17. Thanks
@sick sentinel no log. Just checked. Sorry buddy
Last one is from the 23rd of june
why (if it is) is it important to stop the totem cast or kill it
You mean nelth 2nd boss?^^
Does AOE
They die super fast. You can let the Boss cast one then counter clockwise rotate him 25 degrees and the places the 2nd one on top of the first
oh :S theres other aoes and frontals im way more afraid of, red or green rock men, mace men a little bit
Im shitting my pants because of the green elementals. Vileshard something
First pull with everything before first boss is crazy
defensive stance and put up IP and use SW or LS
In 23 one tick depletes ip. I started using iridikron trinket in there
i find its best to just throw on defensive stance that whole fight any time there is a green rock and then battle after
sounds scary
Uh... Why is the warlock wearing grapnel and the Pally saying pay me wearing a S1 trinket. WTF
Its super scary. You can go to 200k hps there. If iridkon scale proccs 250
With battle stance im still a bit cautious. I played DK in the last 10 years and tanked last on my warr in MoP so im testing my limits
Im still rocking it most of the dungeon but in hard pulls im rather safe than sorry
Just saw your message. Realized you were still on blocked. Key lvl was 23
To be perfectly fair, I've never heard someone say they leave before last boss and meant way at the start of the dungeon. So you have to be somewhat willing to concede that the misunderstanding was easy to see.
I guess thats fair ye. I just saw all the backlash and was shocked someone got so mad because i leave some keys. Glad its good now
please jordan
you're willing, im not
its plain to see
its a backpedal not a misunderstanding
especially when they flex about being banned for deranking
fuck em
Oh I agree, it's gotta be egregious to somehow get banned for leaving keys. Even if that ban gets appealed.
7 minutes left to kill last boss on fortified is plenty of time even if the key was going poorly.
Pretty sure the bot got tripped because it was to much in a weekend. I think the downranking thing is there for pvp and ppl use it for pve. Not good explained
I mean streamers can get ppl banned because they weaponize their audience. Its all automated
no, its there for pve as well for people like you
deranking rating is still deranking in pve
and justified when people leave JUST BEFORE last boss
on a timeable key
but still im blocked so who gives a shit
fuck that idiot
Anyways, what we all up to?
remember when that guardian left chipadin's key on a 5min rokmora split?
i could have easily reported for deranking
I got a second date on Saturday and just passed the 40lb mark so that's pretty good
@lusty grotto
Heck yeah! Proud of you!
Your name definitely hasn't been as effective as mine I see
just you, idiot
Stop it or I'll send you to your room
But i am in my room. Me my cat and my wife behind me
Nim so toxic smh
Will i get spanked?
I don't ever keep someone blocked permanently
Ghash hands out the spankings
ghash did you read the whole context?
I took him off block for exactly 1 minute saw that hes still using slurs and put him back on. Thats why jordan is off my list too^^
I did, I'm just giving you shit
well im not dropping it, hes scum
Slurs?
I've never seen Nimchip use a slur
Proof that I go outside. Your turn.
When every second sentence contains piece of shit its close enough for me
Since he cant talk like a normal human being and swears all the time he stays blocked
I bet you're white huh Rooach. Only a white person thinks piece of shit is a slur
Funny. I am not
They scared the crap out of me, those things are loud AF when they fly over you.
Then I think you need to go reread the definition of it
Do you know what close enough means?
Huh, I would not have thought that
Dont try to lecture me when youre missing reading comprehension. Americans kekw
Can you just block me already and shut up
Somewhat related, did you know there are only 25 blimps in the world?
Nice. Tries to flame, gets fucked then asks for a block
That fact boggles me
That's crazy.
That one and that Oxford was opened 300 years before the Aztec empire existed
But that's not balloon related
WTF
Could have actually been longer since no one actually knows when Oxford was founded, but there's evidence of teaching there as early as like 1100
Matching things in history with other things in history are very fascinating to me because we conceptualize these eras in our heads so distinctly but then it all comes crashing down with one realization.
And the Aztec empire wasn't founded until the 1400s
Yeah it's wild
Like wooly mammoths still existing when the pyramids were being built
Guilford didn't post his touching grass picture. Didn't fall for the bait. I'm ruined.
I only knew of this because I wrote a 5 page report for an ex on the evolution of mammoths.
HAH
Elephants are my favorite animal so I like mammoths too because they're like elephants with coats on
touch dn
That's sexual harassment.

me after key goes wrong (some shitty fps where they swear every 3 seconds i'm playing)

its 2010 and your grandmother bought you (what she thinks is) call of duty for christmas
I remember having Ghost Recon lan parties at high school.
Ghost Recon was dope before it turned into COD
hello @warm plinth I heard outlaw blasts now, true or false?
this amazon music fest kinda looks empty
I wanted to try it aswell, but this year on my birthday, I started to have panic attacks from everything, and even going to public is making me nervous. So I think I would die in ballon haha
i drove one like 17years ago
was pretty chill
funny part is, it landed only like 300m away from my home
despite starting like 30km away
very convenient
Did u just like get out of the air balloon and go back inside?
well i went home, yes
everyone else had to figure out how to get back
and i just walked home
Kek
π«
i am looking at a key now with a prot warrior doing 220k dps overall
with aug of course
absolute pumper
not a bad key for him
Damn what lvl was that. My highest was like 148k in Bracken 23
And that was with 100% battle stance and dps trinkets
yes
We did last season already
they do
We did
susge
Played enh as main last season. We swapped to WF after fire nova got replaced my ice strike
Was like 2 months into the season
God damn 50k from aug
his log dps was 140k
ye
how memes are Idols (crafting)
Idol of the Dreamer (haste one) is it 
pretty shit compared to real trinkets
It always sims better than what I have π Not sure what's up with that
if u want haste trinket, 2nd boss of mega
goes to 441
loot as dps, dont drop as prot spec
Thats what im running rn with scale. Feelsgood
The dmg procc is pretty useless but its better than nothing
its really good for aoe yea
anyone want to tank a weekly 17 for my rogue?
For a 17 that'd be 60k
Ill do it for 59
Are they really that cheap?
they're memeing someone that said something like that a few days back
oh lol
ye i'm meme'ing this #protection message
Which is today's hot topic on WoWTwt it seems
That has to be reportable right? That's some griefing shit
I've heard multiple levels of things regarding it and apparently he was joking and apparently the key wasn't going smoothly (this is irrelevant to the actual behavior).
tbh that's still not terrible
Basically 2 17s for a token
pretty good deal
@crude notch did you enter the giveaway for ukraine pet pack yet π
what's that from lol
That's BDG's price list
I gave away 100
If you want the pet pack, but for whatever reason can't financially afford it dm me.
I'm literally buying like 100 of these idgaf. I've already seen enough hate comments about it, I feel the need to counter the hate.
Someone from Ukraine sent me a postcard to my PO Box it was so wholesome
You love to see it
my heart
Blizzard did their best at making it hard af
I had to friend everyone I wanted to give it to
A bunch of people did this reaction and the russian flag, and I'm really tempted to check the reaction list before I deliver the prizes and reroll them if it's one of those people lol
I would
I also got some unfriendly DMs too and there was a scuffle in here about the pet pack, but sometimes you just gotta ignore the cringelord haters.
To be clear, I have no problem with Russian people, if we got any in here. Just in the context, I can't imagine why you'd do that react
yeah, fuck em
The next week or two is gonna suuuuuck
Two wisdom tooth sockets healing means a lot of soft foods 
aw, this guy sent me a voice message saying he's proud of me on my weight loss and he'd love to know my story
for those of u that use method raid tools to show healer externals avail, anyway to ignore certain names? for ex, all the dps pals...ignore their sac
I'm pretty sure there is give me one sec
You can set this in MRT to only track by spec
@hazy bronze oh really, wonderful. leme look into that
I'm not at my PC rn but I believe clicking into the spell let's you choose
this is so nice!
react honeypots are good btw had a bunch of people react some homophobic shit for some pride event in pally disc
got to blam all of them

you guys are awesome
for doing this
both of you
also apb choco called me for some reason while i was doing a key lmao
it's always 0 post weirdo lurkers that do it too
yeah well, that's a shame

not sure why, but hunter wanted the rokmora trinket lol
let him have it, probably boosts his shown ilvl
lol
im trying for talismans
maybe theyre like that warlock with grapnel on
LMAOOOOOOO
thats a legit tric btw
THAT WAS SO BIZARRE
u take a trinket u dont need
at a high ilvl
and it boosts ur ilvl
so then players think you are better
YOU DON'T NEED TO EQUIP IT FOR THAT
and you just equip the other ones u really use
IT SHOWS IN-BAG
yah, the old gear in bags trick
ILVL
since original LFD in wrath
Yeah, though you do have to equip it to be eligible to trade it, stupidly enough
Yogi they were wearing the grapnel
(at least temporarily I mean)
have to scan character
wtb group that can do chains on neltharus
no
like its been the biuggest struggle this week bro
I was very sad that the change to Chargath was not what I thought it was; so now I just don't know what that change meant.
wtf does the change even do?
Let me know when you find out
Oh wait, huh
It's sort of what I thought but not really
It looks like him getting the fetter debuff (the thing he gets from hitting a chain cancels his fiery focus cast
wait i know
yeah thats part of the bug
It's not a bug anymore apparently; he's supposed to do it
where a chain wouldn't count
Does it not bug anymore?
No this is nothing to do with a chain not counting though
I've never had a chain not count unless the person died before the chain was broken so idk about that one
i have
multiple times
fetter is a stack
so if a chain doesnt count
by the time you chain him 3 times
you have 2x fetter
and he wont get stunned
alright so just so im sure, in the neltharus hall before 2nd boss, are you doing 1 big pull or 2 pulls? and are you grabbing the mobs on right side when you walk in the hallway or hugging left and skipping?
1.25 million avalanche dmg oh he's a MM, weird, i don't think i see alot of those
since its fort ive been doing 2 pulls, everything in front half then everyhing in back half
That's pretty sick
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Glad I haven't run into that one
yeah its rough
But this is the new change they made to him where if you fetter him during the fiery focus cast, he cancels it
right
so if that was contributing to it, then its possible that it wont happen
as in the bug
That would be nice
hard to say without logs, and i usually dont upload failed runs
Because I think a lot of people do the one insta-break
So maybe that was causing it to happen a lot
insta break does happen but most of the time he jumps before being tripped
so thats why its not that common
Well, that's why you drag the chain right on top of him; that way the tank doesn't have to do the awkward movement to force the leap before dragging him through the chain
right
But yeah, idk. I don't even know how much impact this really has
I guess on ihgher keys it's more important because it cancels the lava puddles, giving your ranged a more chill phase
both the bug and that yea
even though its way too late in the season
but it is what it is
Indeed
Until we have Neltharus next season as well 
Do you think they'll redo some dragonflight dungeons or will it be like S4 shadowlands where we have all non-expansion dungeons
(besides DotI of course)
Fair, which ones would you like to see, assuming they don't just swap to the other 4 again
was there a mega of wod
no
BFA was the first megadungeon
No that isn't true
Legion was
Karazhan, then Mechagon, then Tazavesh
And now Dawn
There wasn't really a point in introducing new dungeons before M+ existed I don't think.
Because the highest gear was from mythic 0 (dungeon-wise) and those are on weekly lockout
Now that they're repeatable in endgame content, it makes more sense to want to keep the dungeon pool fresh
sbg needs changed if it ever comes back
Dawn 2x
AA
RLP
HoI
Uldaman (hot take moment)
2x bfa keys
I'd rather Uldaman than HoI to be honest. HoI is easily the most boring dungeon of the pool
only 3 scary things in that dungeon, void slap, death slap, and wall slap
i know its easy but i hate the final hallway of hoi
I don't think we'll see 4 DF in addition to Dawn, but I could be wrong
Depends how many keys they think they can push out that aren't new
if its only 2 others id really want rlp + x
AA is my second favorite out of all of them but they could pick one of the s2 ones
the reason I think ulda could be interesting is that i think ppl still havent really optimized it
its a very unpopular key
If we only get one S2 then I'd want Uldaman for sure. It's the one I enjoy the most of this season
Kind of a feedback loop
It's hard, but it's fun
people dont practice it, they dont like it, it doesnt get optimized so it's hard, no one practices it
But I doubt they doa 10 dungeon one again
they didnt have rotating keys til s4
They seem to like having 8 dungeons
so its not the same comparison
true enough
Ya they specifically said they did 8 at start of df s1 because itd be harder for people to learn the keys
when they change every season
Well, it was fine in SL because 6 of the 8 dungeons were repeats
well, and they were the dungeons you were doing as level up and heroics
Right, and BFA dungeons at least had the same mechanics between heroic and mythic
Idk why they didn't keep that tbh
I usually do pull 5, then go across and head toward Magmatusk, then use chains again on pull 6, and then after boss you use on pull 9
arent you using chains on pull 1?
Yeah but that's a tiny pull; you should pull shit inside too
I usually grab the miniboss and some of the other mobs around the that room for the first chain pull
yes sounds right
@shut summit
looking at your logs, do you use beacon outside of avatar prepull cus it does not increase dmg of beacon or why ?
talking to my GM and he says its BS to not pre avatar then beacon
Like if you just do pull 1, that's only 3 mobs basically
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All CDs are whitelisted, your GM is dumb
can you link a route? i always have the issue of losing agro if i try to do too big of pulls
They do not affect non-class abilities
Just be communicative. Tell group to go to the chain and wait
If they die, they die. They can run back and you're killing the pack w/ chains anyway
sry for interrupt Gash π
wdym by whitelisted ?
what abotu healer agro?
It means they are given a filter that makes them only work on things that are in your character's spellbook/talents
Think like a blacklist, but opposite
Instead of blacklisting hundreds of outside damage sources, they just make it so it only works on a fixed set of spells
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=107574/avatar like if you go to the Avatar page, you see this:
That's the list of spells it affects
I pre-avatar on mwahi last night
They pre last stand for 4 piece
Is that bad?
Translation complete
before pull? no
if they are waiting on the 4pc though, yeah its bad
i.e. if they are waiting on earthen smash to activate
Yeah that's not good
@warm plinth
thx for translation π @sullen valve π
Healer aggro shouldn't really be a problem. Just charge in, get a few hits on the wardens then peace out w/ leap and go pull the room
Should be able to avoid most damage, especially since the hunters are going to do their shit on the group, not you
When the wardens and other mobs start to gather, you can use defensives then to stabilize
Thatβs what I usually do, my healer kept dying to birds all day today
I usually don't head toward the room until after the first blazing slashes
Because that also buys me time when they stop to volcanic guard
You ahve to be careful how many hunters you pull, even when you're chaining
Hmm alright, if you are able to record a VOD of a run through sometime that would be awesome as well so I can just see how you do pulls
sleep well boiz π 
Thanks
People not understanding the ranged guys in NL is the bane of my tanking experience this week
Which ranged guys, the pelters?
A whole party with hard stops and nobody using them apart from me
Yeah
Yeah...what level keys you doing?
20s
oh okay
yeah people won't really know how to play on 20s
Was gonna say if you're into the 22-23 range, it's a good idea to actually CC on the double pelter packs and just combine each pelter w/ another pull
at this point in the season
They kinda sting, especially on cloth
Especially on fort weeks
but yeah for high fort keys you don't actually ever want to do double pelter
since they can straight up oneshot a clothie at high enough fort level if both pelts go on the same target
and they are the prio target so
they will jump
its very common to have spriest MC one of them on the double pulls
The actual best thing is to have a Priest MC one
I mean
Lol, snap
Plus they can go on the same person 3 times in a row, so if both decide to bully...
it's because MC is the only real hard cc that exists in god comp
Well, you can sheep them; they're humanoid
lasts twice as long as spriest MC too
anyway nothing about MC is inherently good on pelter
literally any hard CC is sufficient
I'm actually curious if it would be worth just CCing one while you pull another pack and just letting the pack around it go ham on it
prob not since it would just aggro on healer then
Yeah that's true
Enhance Shammies are actually really good at dealing with them. They have 3 different multi-target stops for them. If they know how to play.
i mean
I think the biggest problem w/ those pulls as you get to 20s and push slightly past is people are still used to not focusing them
you're mostly speaking out of luxury in 20s atm
But you really need to on keys that high
they don't die fast in fort
at 20s they will die relatively fast, after, they do not, 20+ scales harder than sub 20
much harder
just because my mom is a scaly doesn't mean she can be judged 
Priority targeting is definitely a thing people in 16-20s often do not know
i think that is not an attitude you want to hold going forward honestly
Doing 16-17 for crests is actively excruciating. I should not be regularly second on the DPS
your personal knowledge is also contingent on the keys you're doing
and you'll quickly hit a wall or simply quit due to frustration if you just think you are inherently better than everyone at the same key level you are
at
no one deserves to be any higher io, the vast majority of people are where they belong and climb slowly
Pugs are a total crapshoot but most of my guild has got bored and gone to play BG3
Literally gas anyone that thinks they deserve being a higher IO than they are currently. Do the work and stfu.
and it's pretty common to think you are better than everyone else
at your key level
doesn't matter what key level
that's why most people don't end up being able to push
Bad attitude to have
I often make mistakes. It's why I read my logs after a run.
Always something to learn.
that's very different from initially saying "X thing is a thing that Y people in the key levels i'm doing don't know" (initially)
which isn't actually true
and a terrible attitude to have
to start out with
It's a statement of fact
no, it really isn't
i've done 100x more keys than you this season
that just isn't the case
people know things you don't
you know things other people don't
that is how pushing works
People often don't priority target the pelters because they're coming from key levels where you don't have to
And you're coming from?
which is different from not having the correct priority target. If i'm clearing for efficiency (which i often do on my warrior when doing low keys) I'm not targeting a pelter because it makes the run slower
and it does not lead to lethality
so claiming that this is a wrong priority target, to not target the pelter at that key level
is wrong
you are making a claim borne of ignorance on your end as much as the players you claim to have more knowledge than
You aren't the first person to think this way nor will you be the last
I'm going to ignore you now, because this entire conversation is you arguing with me about something you imagine I've said, not something I actually said
You are just another person in the long line of posts one week of complaints then quits after 2 weeks
because you are too much better than anyone else
you didn't say this?
The conversation is based on you saying #protection message , but now you're calming you didn't actually say #protection message, so
Someone hacked your computer?
i wonder what it is about M+ that makes everyone think their experiences are unique
that they are the only ones with bad pugs
that they alone have uniquely bad pugs compared to everyone else
that they're the only ones whose friends have taken breaks from M+ pushing 14 (15? 16 i think?) weeks into a season
Don't have to have bad pugs when you ARE the bad pug
We're amidst week 14. I only ever can keep track because of my stupid weekly numbers
so halfway through the season
aka 3/4ths through the season
aka 90% through with the season
aka the season is over this is basically the last week.
p much
The actual phenomenon is it's always people starting this late into a season of keys
believing they are any more knowledgeable than anyone else
like in week 1-2 almost everyone is pretty cognizant of the fact that everyone is equally kind of shit
oh what I would give to have week 1-2 keys back again. that was way more fun 
I love first two weeks of the season. Everyone running around with their heads chopped off.
ya now every other person is just like this
"i'm better than everyone else, they're not learning just like me, they should just know the same exact things as me"
not fun
400iq idea - rotate the dungeons and affixes
huh?
In the context of the conversation we're having rotating dungeons is in fact the right play.
Tennis balls are big dubs
Thought about getting a set of those chirp wheel things
what's a chirp wheel
Eh. I just use a foam roller normally.
Bust out the tennis ball when I need something more precise like a spot right under my shoulderblade 
gimme a backrub kanga
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holy cannoli
more like holy guacamole lol idiot
You guys see that redhead farmer dude singing? guess that's also a psyop cuz everything is a psyop nowadays
lmao
people are so funny on the webz
Yo I just found out my work has a peloton bike and treadmill wtf
big pog
foam roller after leg day, I know in the end it's worth it but jfc that shit turns me into a blubbering baby
I can pop my own back generally, but sometimes you just wanna fuck that shit up you know
I could've been getting paid for my cardio this whole time wtf
I have thought about getting one of those desk treadmills



