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dusky canopy
golden tartan
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what overalls u guys doing as a prot

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in 20s or whatever

south zealot
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depends on key

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110-120k usually

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actually like 105-115

golden tartan
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what stats should i craft on my shield tho

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crit/versa?

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or haste/crit

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im already 16/35/14/44

dusky canopy
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crit/haste on all crafted pieces

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unless you want to do some feely craft stuff

lusty grotto
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πŸ€”

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why no ping guys

crude notch
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@lusty grotto

lusty grotto
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ok ty

proper roost
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ok important tip all do not buy kroger chorizo

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this is the worst chorizo ive ever had in my life

lusty grotto
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sadge how do did they even fuck up something like chorizo

proper roost
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Its really rubbery

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Its ok tho the guac and pico are carrying

lusty grotto
sick sentinel
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i couldnt think of his full name

daring marlin
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holy fuck

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I just had a garen ult crit for 3400

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LMAO

jagged gust
sick sentinel
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bro i told u

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garen is insane

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his Q does or did a ton too

daring marlin
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yogi it's only cuz of the mode

sick sentinel
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oh

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wel, garen is still overpowered lomao

daring marlin
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there's a torghast power that makes his abilities crit

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ergo

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it allows his ult to crit

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so it only really works on his R as his E and Q can crit already but it also gives 20% crit too

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shit was hilarious

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@lusty grotto HELLO NIM

proper roost
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also tbf it was reduced and old so probably that had a major contributing factor. it was only $2 w/e

lusty grotto
jagged gust
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Yeah chorizo is fatty even by what I'd consider American standards, doubt you could fuck it up hard enough on your own. probably just some bad meat

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Gif unrelated I just thought that shit was hilarious

proper roost
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it doesnt taste spoilt by itself, just the texture is wack

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i've cooked plenty of past expiry date meat and its been fine so idk

jagged gust
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did you know there's something called woody breasts that makes chicken meat have a firm and squeaky texture?

proper roost
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i've heard of that but I only buy thighs so never run into it

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i have to buy the cheapest possible shit im def not buying cheap chicken breast, thats just asking for crap

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cheap thighs are fine cuz megafarms dont breed for ass clapping chicken

proper roost
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i'm never responding to you again

warm plinth
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I love chorizo

proper roost
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at least I got a few passable tacos out of it

strong forum
crude notch
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i'm innocent

daring marlin
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lady

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double wood supplements are the best

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they're gonna give me a free bottle of L-Theanine catjam

proper roost
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i'll give you some double wood if u know what i mean

sick sentinel
rigid badge
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Does anybody know if I can find a list of which spells are most effective to use spell reflection on?
I'm thinking about situations like last Boss in HOI, which is doing two spells in a row which you can reflect but the second one is doing much more damage.

sick sentinel
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There's a spreadsheet in the pinned message's for that.

rigid badge
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Thank you πŸ‘

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
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Hellll yeahhh boy lets gooo

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them are some sweet thighs

lusty grotto
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lol

daring marlin
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holy shit my LOWER BACK

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AHHHHHHHHHH

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SLDL kicked my ass @jagged gust BILLY

lusty tiger
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SLDLs own

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My bro came to leg day today and he will surely be roasted tomorrow

daring marlin
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Density day owns

jagged gust
daring marlin
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I just got back and had a taco

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brb food coma zzz

round pendant
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What's my best means of dealing with ticks in underrot if people fuck up

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do I just die?

sick sentinel
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i didnt get it but it dropped

hazy bronze
round pendant
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First pull of underrot, 3 people died to the maggot frontal and then buttpulled all the ticks

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feels so bad losing bloodsurge for shield block

frank dust
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do we do lariat neck or frostfire belt + shadowflame armor patch embellishment

dusky canopy
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I do 2x Shadowflame

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you can also do ffb

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Lariat is meh specially without all sockets

lusty grotto
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see pins

rocky kraken
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What dungeons would you run spell block? Nelthrus seems like one for sure. any others?

lusty grotto
rocky kraken
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lol should have check that first

proper roost
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ticks do way more group dam than tank dam

round pendant
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These are not mutually exclusive

lusty tiger
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Wiping to ticks sucks

proper roost
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no it isn't

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all your cds are up at the start of the instance

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Press them you dumb ape

frank dust
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any suggestions on what to put the shadowflame armor patch on

lusty tiger
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447 crafted items you don’t expect to get any replacements for

frank dust
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so shield prolly?

crude notch
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that is a popular choice yes

frank dust
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cuz im prolly not going to do mythic

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sark

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or nelth

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forgot which one hsa the shield

lusty grotto
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echo

violet flume
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so uh, if i want to take battle scarred veteran to counter some bad healers and to hopefully prevnet one wipe once in a while, im guessing i should take battering ram out? or something else?

sick sentinel
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oh shit

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pokemon TCG wcs on twitch lol

daring marlin
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found you in the wild

sick sentinel
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wasn't expecting that, never seen the actual events for tcg

round pendant
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two paladins in this key

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literally share a single braincell

sick sentinel
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they cant find interupt button is it?

round pendant
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yep

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keep pulling random worms

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can't dodge spells

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this one dude has died like 6 times on the runback after releasing

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because of pulling mobs we skipped

violet flume
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sounds like you aint gonna time it 😦

round pendant
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we did not

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paladin did 58.9k overall

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other one did 75k

violet flume
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season 1 numbers lol

round pendant
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I'm petty so I checked, for that key level he's the 15th worst ret paladin

crude notch
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huh?

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that logged

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I really fear for the mental well-being of tank mains

round pendant
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I constantly want to quit wow

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so

kind urchin
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I'm a tank main. I have acquired a tremendous amount of mental fortitude.

crude notch
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Telling people to intentionally leave keys.
Stopping everything mid key to talk about the route.
Leaving keys right before last boss.
Randomly creeping on others of your class in Valdrakken to tell them their build is wrong.
Hunting down historic logs of your DPS after doing a key.

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Y'all need therapy, not more wow

sick sentinel
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"Telling people to intentionally leave keys."

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not me

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my policy on leaving a group is, it depends on the severity and cause and frequency of the wipes or other factors

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like, tyranical, get to the first boss, lust, die at boss with 5% hp

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that key is toast

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so its like, basically like, 2-3 wipes for me

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i swear it should be, if you get to a boss, and you do a lust that is succesful and you wipe to the boss within 2 minutes from time of hitting lust, the exhuastion counter gets cut in half one to minimum of 5 minutes, cant go below that.

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even sucks in raids, basically gotta take 10 minutes between each pull (some you can reset it on, ya)

crude notch
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lust resets on every raid boss yogi

sick sentinel
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you still gotta do the everyone tags it and runs out right

round pendant
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no

sick sentinel
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so its an npc out side every raid boss now or

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oh well, i don't raid

crude notch
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an npc outside of every raid boss?

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no

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just have an invis class tag it and invis/vanish/feign

sick sentinel
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i can remember since at least bfa or shadowlands always had to have everyone hit the boss once and then 1 guy drags them over a bridge where they de-spawn

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and if someone didnt get a tag, they wouldnt get lust, so you'd need to pull again

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i want to say it happened on halondrous, but my game captures don't go back that far

daring marlin
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based jordan

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love that person fr

lusty tiger
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Fuck just lost $25 going all in on a 6 and 9 hand

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Texas holdem

proper roost
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I'm petty so I checked, for that key level he's the 15th worst ret paladin

sick sentinel
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GET IT TWISTED, START GAMBLING YOU WILL REBUILD YOUR LIFE

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6 9 is risky to keep hand imo, thats thing about poker, you keep thinking he dont have a bigger straight or 3 of kind, then he do

lusty tiger
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Friends dog won’t leave me alone for pets

lusty tiger
crude notch
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πŸ‘€

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did a mod remove that or did you?

high aspen
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i did

lusty tiger
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D:

crude notch
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was that the tank or?

high aspen
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it was my guildie, druid was the tank

crude notch
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yes that's my point

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the psycho was an egotistical tank

violet flume
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feelsgoodman

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previous run i was told i was shit same dungeon kek

lusty tiger
daring marlin
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sleepyboi

lusty tiger
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Boi is OUT

crude notch
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dat me

daring marlin
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dat me

crude notch
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oh bb

warm plinth
proud tide
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man guardian bear is just easy mode

tranquil drift
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yet I had a guardian druid that got one shot by trash in freehold a few days ago lol

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first time I saw that happen

crude notch
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That can happen if you don't have rage going into a pull

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And don't press a CD in preparation

warm plinth
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hmmNod big squish without proper planning

stone oasis
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I got a couple questions about macros. First, is it possible to make a macro to use Shield Charge when it's available and regular charge when it's not? Second, is it a good idea or absolutely awful idea to macro Avatar onto Thunderous Roar since they both have the same cooldown so that I don't forget Avatar exists?

crude notch
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They don't have the same cooldown though once you factor in Anger Management.

stone oasis
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True, but I tend to end up popping avatar once per combat if I'm lucky

crude notch
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That sounds like you need a WA that shoots flashing lights or yells at you when Avatar is available.

stone oasis
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wyrmrest accord?

hidden linden
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WeakAura

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And to come back to your initial questions:

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  • No you can't have macro conditionals
  • It's an absolutely awful idea to macro avatar w/ roar for the reasons above
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(Plus, Shield Charge is somethnig you'll hit more or less on CD, so you should have it bound somewhere else than your charge that you won't use in melee range)

stone oasis
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... but i only use shield charge to charge at people?

crude notch
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You should use it for more than that.

lusty tiger
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SC owns

crude notch
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you own

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GOT EM

lusty tiger
jagged pier
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SC is actually a dps cd and should be used during avatar and demo windows

lusty tiger
jagged pier
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it will alwyas line up with demo as its the same cd

stone oasis
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Sorry if I sound like I don't know how to play. I'm admittedly super casual, I just want to be able to tank low level mythics for my friends if they need it, y'know?

crude notch
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you're asking questions and looking to improve and that's more than 95% of the playerbase, so.

jagged pier
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^

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and this is a place where we give u advice on how to imporve we cant stop u making a macro of SC and charge we are always going to recommend not doing so becase it is the incorrect way

stone oasis
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Plus, tanking tends to be easier for me than DPSing. I'm good at positioning and keeping enemies on me, not so much at knowing when to burst and the proper rotation, I tend to click things as they go on cooldown or start to glow

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Apart from defensive pops, I do know when to use those, I practiced getting the hang of reflexively pouring rage into ignore pain, keeping shield block up, etc

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So I'll keep in mind to use Shield Charge more often and line it up with Demo/Avatar, but is it still okay for me to use it to enter engagements?

cinder monolith
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On the dps side of things, just use the dps cool-downs on cool-down initially

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The only real reason to use shield charge to engage is if you have no shield block, no rage and you expect the pack to kill you as you enter

crude notch
brittle owl
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terrorists

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their mistake was negotiating

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never negotiate with terrorists

crude notch
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who let kohl out of his kennel?

strong forum
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apparently the key was already hard depleted

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before they even reached last boss

somber sky
strong forum
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i wouldnt extort people, i'd AT BEST ask people if they really wanted to finish or not

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but generally just run it down mid and finish it

somber sky
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Oh I mean I'd not take the gold but finish it while being Omega salty about it

strong forum
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eh

somber sky
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" it was an displeasure playing with y'all :3" leaves

proper roost
somber sky
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It happened to me once keks

proper roost
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and also different story from "was going fine"

strong forum
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and they had 22 deaths before reaching last boss

somber sky
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Yikes

strong forum
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and gained another extra 23 deaths on last boss

somber sky
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23 totally or...

strong forum
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extra

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so they had 45

somber sky
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Yeah that's a /leave

strong forum
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its a 16

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just finish for vault

somber sky
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After 4 wipes, I don't think they would've had the DPS to meet the check.

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Wouldn't the 2 stack dot make them do worse-than-prog DPS?

strong forum
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it reduces the dmg you deal?

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i thought it just hurts you

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and that dot is outhealable even on a +30

proper roost
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the dot does reduce damage but only by 2% per stack now

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they giganerfed it multiple times

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and the stack clears after like 20s

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it isnt permanent like it used to be (it wouldnt have persisted after death anyway)

strong forum
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well it clears with the boss explosion

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doing his withered burst or w/e its called

proper roost
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ye idk how it works almost never had it happen

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Either way

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people lyin as per usual chatting

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story sounds kinda sus tho

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How find logs of a key that didnt complete

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Who uploaded

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This is interesting enough I will go find it myself

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damn that palshay guy's r.io is

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horrific

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lmao

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so many deplete keys..

proper roost
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#1 - they actually did complete it

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hold on i gotta look up this person's character

sick sentinel
proper roost
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yogi

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shut up

sick sentinel
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give them as big as a fuck yiu as they give to group

proper roost
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I'm doing detective work and the entire tweet is lying

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You idiot

sick sentinel
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how about no

proper roost
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yeah no shit you just believe the guy who's lying about his 55 minute +16

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that they completed anyway

sick sentinel
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if i spent 55 minutes in a 16 key

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and we hadnt killed the final boss

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i might b3 tempted to ask 50k too

proper roost
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No fucking shit that's literally why that guy sent that message

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So shut the fuck up yogi you dumbass

sick sentinel
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how about i dont and say i did

proper roost
sick sentinel
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i dunjo, i dont see the huge deal i guess, only a 16

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if i was i that situation, i would complete the key and drop group micro second key is over

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already did that at least once in past week or so

proper roost
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can't find the log, pretty sure the assertion that half the deaths were pre first boss might be a lie idk @strong forum

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i scoured a lot

sick sentinel
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im staying till its done but second its done fuck you guys, im out.

proper roost
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unless you can see that on r.io
which i don't think you can?

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either way 100% liar about the state of the key

sick sentinel
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thats the raider io website

proper roost
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Holy fuck yogi

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You are so dumb

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got

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DAMN

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driving me wild

sick sentinel
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so should be able to take one of tgose names and pug it in ans get results if you are so inclined

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okay, and?

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i dont wanna stay in some 20 minutes over key, fuck that man

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less rewards, more repair bill, hard to blame him

strong forum
proper roost
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i mean

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i looked at every single log that was posted in the last 8 hours

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idk πŸ€”

sick sentinel
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hearts out to the owner of that key at any rate

proper roost
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i want to see the actual log

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anyway, fuck that person

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actual fake news spreading outrage click farmer

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also the worst person in their own key (normal but w/e)

sick sentinel
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unless hes the paladin asking 50k

proper roost
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gibe log nom

sick sentinel
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i hav3 always found logging culture a bit weird

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and sims, since days of "agility equivilance points" in 200X wrath spread sheet, same with logs, i remember i did some lfr didnt even post the logs and someones got it and can share it

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just a game to me, want to have a good time or laugh and forget the details

strong forum
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logging is only relevant if you want to improve

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nothing else

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its the same as people using fit bands or counting calories in their diet

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something to benchmark yourself

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not necessary whatsoever, but a neat tool

cinder storm
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How else I am going to be mad about PI if I don't log

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Wait

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I only log to get mad at PI

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Yogi, did you ever upload your last video? Strim when?

sick sentinel
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story of my life with uldamans lol

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they are unlisted so you can share them but the reason i dont public them is because they have real name friends on them, amongst other reasons chief being "its self promotion!!!!" no..... its unlisted video with 7 views lmao

cerulean tusk
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Lies, 8 views, you are advertising yourself!

sick sentinel
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ya, to pwar discord, the only discord i ever speak in

hazy bronze
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Does your mom watch? huggies

sick sentinel
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hell no, she wouldnt want to hear trump call joe biden the sleepy moron

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i had some ai presidents in 2 of my videos

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like, i love fps games right, but i don't normally enjoy the pvp modes for those as much as frequently now that im older

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i find the stories and the guns and the shooting and all the destruction and music and cutscenes to be the best parts

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cuz typically, there is a million other games, or one big game that does the gun thing and does pvp well, pubg or overwatch or somethin, if i want gun pvp i'd go to those, right

dusky canopy
opaque quest
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love it when 1 person feeds their ass off

sick sentinel
dusky canopy
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counter strike

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arma

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valorant

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battlefield

opaque quest
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4000 hours of destiny 2 between forsaken and lightfall

dusky canopy
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destiny yep

opaque quest
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Its the one game where i regret getting invested so much

dusky canopy
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Did you have fun while you were playing it?

sick sentinel
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im tempted to say no destiny either, but thats a pretty good answer

opaque quest
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I had fun with friends. We couldve played minesweeper and had the same fun copium

dusky canopy
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then the time was well spent

sick sentinel
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what im saying, is, name a lesser known fps you have played

opaque quest
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I know youre not talking to me but im trying to think of one anyways

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Ghost Recon future soldier

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no fuck no fps its tpv

dusky canopy
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metal gear solid

sick sentinel
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i played like, 90% of them, anything thats on civvie11 youtube channel i've played 75% of those

opaque quest
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Bungie just axed gambit and crucible. No more pvp there anyways

sick sentinel
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i never tried ghostrecon to best of my knowledge, sounds fun might have to check it out if its on sale one day

opaque quest
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I think they are both on game pass

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Wildlands is 100%

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Future soldier is 10 years old so you can have it for 5 anyways

sick sentinel
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i played the~~ first tom clancy 3d game~~ splintercell, the fancy for its time 2002 or 2004 game

opaque quest
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In 2002 i was 10 years old so no shooters for me. The first one i truly remember was vice city

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I think i turned 14 when i got it for my birthday

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Apart from Division i think tom clancy titles are pretty niche tho

sick sentinel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfAUUU6KUw0 i had this for psp, have to control 4 men to do militar missions

Description
Tactical Strike is the third hand-held game in the long-line of the SOCOM series. This one differs from its console cousins. Not only can the player choose to control a squad of US Navy Seals, but the player can alternatively decide to control one of several foreign units that have roles comparable to the SEALS, such as the Dutch KCT...

β–Ά Play video
opaque quest
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Fuck me youre old

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Ive played a socom years ago but there are like 20 socom titles

sick sentinel
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that one, link changed

opaque quest
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Is the aiming like a point and click adventure?

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Looks like it

sick sentinel
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a bit, but its real time

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he can an should be use stealth elements or gear, but hes not

fair beacon
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Question: with the exception of the 4 tier pieces, all the rest of my gear is crafted and I have gone all in on the haste/vers. atm my haste is 5804 (38%) and vers is 5523 (27%). I did this based on what I had heard before that vers is a tad better than crit, but now I see in the pin here, and on the method website, that crit has some edge over vers. I wanted to ask which one is actually better (I do a lot of solo content, raids up to the first few mythic bosses, and max 20-22 keys)? thanks in advance for any potential advice πŸ™‚

lusty tiger
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Str>>>haste>crit

torn gulch
chilly brook
sick sentinel
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i beat the final mission

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it took so long to upgrade the snipers to have enough ammo

plush tendon
torn gulch
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kek

cinder nova
lusty tiger
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Nome is juicing his logs

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Insider juicing

strong forum
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i dont, but a friend of mine does

lusty tiger
opaque quest
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IO truly means nothing. I wasnt convinced. Now i am. 3150 IO shadow priest focusing breakers instead of pelters. Not a single interrupt. No vampiric embrace used either. Holy shit. 110k overall in NL23

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Sry for ranting but this is the only place where i think ppl understand my plight and i find solace lmao sadge

lusty tiger
cinder storm
daring marlin
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true and real

opaque quest
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Ya its crazy. Just had a holy pala with 3019 IO telling me my route was shit even tho i played the most upvoted one on keystone guru. Its crazy. All the plebs that get 3k with an exodia class think they are suddenly good

warm plinth
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I didn't even know upvoting routes on keystone guru was a thing

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I gotta see this route now lol

opaque quest
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Most imported one is at the top. Just called it upvoted

sick sentinel
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"You're route is bad and you should feel bad"
REFUSES TO EXPLAIN WHY
leaves the group

opaque quest
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Yeah he did

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He said shit route and insta left

sick sentinel
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any chance you have a log of it

opaque quest
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Let me check

warm plinth
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This part is dumb

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Switch to the other 3 mobs all at once, drop the shaper in the cave in 2nd boss room

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Double pelter packs are the worst ones in the dungeon; idk why you would intentionally add one

crude notch
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What level was this key?

opaque quest
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Because people are retarded and die to fixate mobs every single time

warm plinth
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Just stun the fixate

opaque quest
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Raging and stuff

warm plinth
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If he's stunned as he crosses 70% or during his cast, he never transforms

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He won't be raged at 70%

opaque quest
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Interesting. DIdnt know that

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Ill change my route then

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Pala couldve told me but decided to flame instead

crude notch
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Hmm

warm plinth
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Also, there is zero reason to separate the first 2 pulls

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Definitely combine those

opaque quest
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I didnt

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It was just the route

warm plinth
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Okay good

crude notch
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What was the key level

warm plinth
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Other than that, the route is pretty normal

opaque quest
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Ill defo flip pull 17. Thanks

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@sick sentinel no log. Just checked. Sorry buddy

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Last one is from the 23rd of june

sick sentinel
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why (if it is) is it important to stop the totem cast or kill it

opaque quest
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You mean nelth 2nd boss?^^

sick sentinel
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dies so fast i never really think about it

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ya

opaque quest
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Does AOE

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They die super fast. You can let the Boss cast one then counter clockwise rotate him 25 degrees and the places the 2nd one on top of the first

sick sentinel
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oh :S theres other aoes and frontals im way more afraid of, red or green rock men, mace men a little bit

opaque quest
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Im shitting my pants because of the green elementals. Vileshard something

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First pull with everything before first boss is crazy

sick sentinel
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defensive stance and put up IP and use SW or LS

opaque quest
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In 23 one tick depletes ip. I started using iridikron trinket in there

sick sentinel
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i find its best to just throw on defensive stance that whole fight any time there is a green rock and then battle after

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sounds scary

crude notch
# proper roost

Uh... Why is the warlock wearing grapnel and the Pally saying pay me wearing a S1 trinket. WTF

opaque quest
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Its super scary. You can go to 200k hps there. If iridkon scale proccs 250

#

With battle stance im still a bit cautious. I played DK in the last 10 years and tanked last on my warr in MoP so im testing my limits

#

Im still rocking it most of the dungeon but in hard pulls im rather safe than sorry

opaque quest
crude notch
#

LMAO

#

Did you block Nim too?

opaque quest
#

Whos nim

#

If he bitched because i said im leaving then yes lul

crude notch
#

To be perfectly fair, I've never heard someone say they leave before last boss and meant way at the start of the dungeon. So you have to be somewhat willing to concede that the misunderstanding was easy to see.

opaque quest
#

I guess thats fair ye. I just saw all the backlash and was shocked someone got so mad because i leave some keys. Glad its good now

lusty grotto
#

please jordan

#

you're willing, im not

#

its plain to see

#

its a backpedal not a misunderstanding

#

especially when they flex about being banned for deranking

#

fuck em

lusty tiger
crude notch
crude notch
# proper roost

7 minutes left to kill last boss on fortified is plenty of time even if the key was going poorly.

opaque quest
#

I mean streamers can get ppl banned because they weaponize their audience. Its all automated

lusty grotto
#

no, its there for pve as well for people like you

#

deranking rating is still deranking in pve

#

and justified when people leave JUST BEFORE last boss

#

on a timeable key

#

but still im blocked so who gives a shit

#

fuck that idiot

crude notch
#

Anyways, what we all up to?

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

remember when that guardian left chipadin's key on a 5min rokmora split?

#

i could have easily reported for deranking

opaque quest
warm plinth
#

@lusty grotto

warm plinth
#

Your name definitely hasn't been as effective as mine I see

opaque quest
#

Probably because half the server has him on block

#

Makes sense

lusty grotto
#

just you, idiot

crude notch
#

Stop it or I'll send you to your room

opaque quest
#

But i am in my room. Me my cat and my wife behind me

warm plinth
#

Nim so toxic smh

opaque quest
#

Will i get spanked?

daring marlin
#

engage grass touching

#

do it

warm plinth
#

I don't ever keep someone blocked permanently

crude notch
#

Ghash hands out the spankings

lusty grotto
opaque quest
#

I took him off block for exactly 1 minute saw that hes still using slurs and put him back on. Thats why jordan is off my list too^^

warm plinth
#

I did, I'm just giving you shit

lusty grotto
#

well im not dropping it, hes scum

crude notch
#

Slurs?

warm plinth
#

I've never seen Nimchip use a slur

crude notch
warm plinth
#

BALLOONS

#

I wanna ride in one of those but I'm also scared to death of heights

opaque quest
#

When every second sentence contains piece of shit its close enough for me

#

Since he cant talk like a normal human being and swears all the time he stays blocked

warm plinth
#

I bet you're white huh Rooach. Only a white person thinks piece of shit is a slur

opaque quest
#

Funny. I am not

crude notch
warm plinth
#

Then I think you need to go reread the definition of it

opaque quest
#

Do you know what close enough means?

warm plinth
opaque quest
#

Dont try to lecture me when youre missing reading comprehension. Americans kekw

warm plinth
#

Can you just block me already and shut up

warm plinth
opaque quest
#

Nice. Tries to flame, gets fucked then asks for a block

warm plinth
#

That fact boggles me

crude notch
#

That's crazy.

warm plinth
#

That one and that Oxford was opened 300 years before the Aztec empire existed

#

But that's not balloon related

crude notch
#

WTF

warm plinth
#

Could have actually been longer since no one actually knows when Oxford was founded, but there's evidence of teaching there as early as like 1100

crude notch
#

Matching things in history with other things in history are very fascinating to me because we conceptualize these eras in our heads so distinctly but then it all comes crashing down with one realization.

warm plinth
#

And the Aztec empire wasn't founded until the 1400s

#

Yeah it's wild

#

Like wooly mammoths still existing when the pyramids were being built

crude notch
#

Guilford didn't post his touching grass picture. Didn't fall for the bait. I'm ruined.

crude notch
warm plinth
#

Elephants are my favorite animal so I like mammoths too because they're like elephants with coats on

daring marlin
#

I could post a touching rocks picture

#

HMMMMMM

lusty grotto
#

touch dn

crude notch
#

That's sexual harassment.

lusty grotto
sick sentinel
#

me after key goes wrong (some shitty fps where they swear every 3 seconds i'm playing)

lusty grotto
crude notch
sick sentinel
#

its 2010 and your grandmother bought you (what she thinks is) call of duty for christmas

lusty grotto
crude notch
#

I remember having Ghost Recon lan parties at high school.

opaque quest
#

Ghost Recon was dope before it turned into COD

crude notch
#

hello @warm plinth I heard outlaw blasts now, true or false?

lusty grotto
#

this amazon music fest kinda looks empty

crude notch
daring marlin
#

Demacia Vice is the best

#

bump synthwave the whole time

trim condor
strong forum
#

was pretty chill

#

funny part is, it landed only like 300m away from my home

#

despite starting like 30km away

#

very convenient

modern brook
strong forum
#

well i went home, yes

#

everyone else had to figure out how to get back

#

and i just walked home

modern brook
#

Kek

torn gulch
#

i am looking at a key now with a prot warrior doing 220k dps overall
with aug of course

#

absolute pumper

#

not a bad key for him

opaque quest
#

Damn what lvl was that. My highest was like 148k in Bracken 23

#

And that was with 100% battle stance and dps trinkets

strong forum
#

WFT + Aug is a huge dps steroid for pwar

#

WFT alone is like 5k++ dps

opaque quest
#

Yea true. I forgot about WF

#

220k is still impressive

crude notch
#

does enhance run WFT now in M+?

#

I know they didn't last season

lusty grotto
#

yes

opaque quest
#

We did last season already

lusty grotto
#

they do

opaque quest
#

We did

crude notch
#

susge

opaque quest
#

Played enh as main last season. We swapped to WF after fire nova got replaced my ice strike

#

Was like 2 months into the season

strong forum
#

his real dps in that key is "only" 168k

#

BH25

opaque quest
#

God damn 50k from aug

crude notch
#

his log dps was 140k

strong forum
#

yeah

#

and active dps, the real dps, is 168

crude notch
#

ye

sand drum
#

how memes are Idols (crafting)
Idol of the Dreamer (haste one) is it literallytrash

strong forum
#

pretty shit compared to real trinkets

sand drum
#

seems "good" but idk

#

ok

warm plinth
#

It always sims better than what I have πŸ™ƒ Not sure what's up with that

sick sentinel
#

if u want haste trinket, 2nd boss of mega

#

goes to 441

#

loot as dps, dont drop as prot spec

opaque quest
#

Thats what im running rn with scale. Feelsgood

#

The dmg procc is pretty useless but its better than nothing

strong forum
#

its really good for aoe yea

lusty tiger
#

anyone want to tank a weekly 17 for my rogue?

crude notch
#

heard the going rate is 50k

daring marlin
#

For a 17 that'd be 60k

opaque quest
#

Ill do it for 59

warm plinth
#

Are they really that cheap?

lusty grotto
#

they're memeing someone that said something like that a few days back

warm plinth
#

oh lol

crude notch
#

Which is today's hot topic on WoWTwt it seems

warm plinth
#

That has to be reportable right? That's some griefing shit

crude notch
#

I've heard multiple levels of things regarding it and apparently he was joking and apparently the key wasn't going smoothly (this is irrelevant to the actual behavior).

warm plinth
#

tbh that's still not terrible

#

Basically 2 17s for a token

#

pretty good deal

#

@crude notch did you enter the giveaway for ukraine pet pack yet πŸ‘€

crude notch
#

what's that from lol

warm plinth
#

That's BDG's price list

crude notch
warm plinth
#

oh

#

I got a very wonderful DM in response to the MPF one

crude notch
#

Someone from Ukraine sent me a postcard to my PO Box it was so wholesome

warm plinth
#

You love to see it

crude notch
#

my heart

#

Blizzard did their best at making it hard af

#

I had to friend everyone I wanted to give it to

warm plinth
#

A bunch of people did this reaction and the russian flag, and I'm really tempted to check the reaction list before I deliver the prizes and reroll them if it's one of those people lol

crude notch
#

I would

#

I also got some unfriendly DMs too and there was a scuffle in here about the pet pack, but sometimes you just gotta ignore the cringelord haters.

warm plinth
#

To be clear, I have no problem with Russian people, if we got any in here. Just in the context, I can't imagine why you'd do that react

#

yeah, fuck em

#

The next week or two is gonna suuuuuck

#

Two wisdom tooth sockets healing means a lot of soft foods sadge

crude notch
#

oof

#

don't mind me i'm not actually typing i'm just cleaning my keyboard lol

warm plinth
#

aw, this guy sent me a voice message saying he's proud of me on my weight loss and he'd love to know my story

frozen rose
#

for those of u that use method raid tools to show healer externals avail, anyway to ignore certain names? for ex, all the dps pals...ignore their sac

warm plinth
#

#RetSacMatters

#

Sorry I don't use MRT for CD tracking; just use omniCD

crude notch
#

I'm pretty sure there is give me one sec

hazy bronze
frozen rose
#

@hazy bronze oh really, wonderful. leme look into that

hazy bronze
#

I'm not at my PC rn but I believe clicking into the spell let's you choose

proper roost
warm plinth
#

ikr

#

Wish I could afford to give away as many as Jordan but I ain't that rich

proper roost
#

react honeypots are good btw had a bunch of people react some homophobic shit for some pride event in pally disc

#

got to blam all of them

lusty grotto
#

you guys are awesome

#

for doing this

#

both of you

#

also apb choco called me for some reason while i was doing a key lmao

proper roost
#

it's always 0 post weirdo lurkers that do it too

lusty grotto
#

yeah well, that's a shame

daring marlin
sick sentinel
#

not sure why, but hunter wanted the rokmora trinket lol

#

let him have it, probably boosts his shown ilvl

warm plinth
#

lol

sick sentinel
#

im trying for talismans

proper roost
#

maybe theyre like that warlock with grapnel on

daring marlin
#

LMAOOOOOOO

sick sentinel
#

thats a legit tric btw

daring marlin
#

THAT WAS SO BIZARRE

sick sentinel
#

u take a trinket u dont need

#

at a high ilvl

#

and it boosts ur ilvl

#

so then players think you are better

daring marlin
#

YOU DON'T NEED TO EQUIP IT FOR THAT

sick sentinel
#

and you just equip the other ones u really use

daring marlin
#

IT SHOWS IN-BAG

sick sentinel
#

yah, the old gear in bags trick

daring marlin
#

ILVL

sick sentinel
#

since original LFD in wrath

warm plinth
#

Yeah, though you do have to equip it to be eligible to trade it, stupidly enough

daring marlin
#

Yogi they were wearing the grapnel

warm plinth
#

(at least temporarily I mean)

sick sentinel
#

have to scan character

modern gazelle
#

wtb group that can do chains on neltharus

daring marlin
modern gazelle
#

like its been the biuggest struggle this week bro

warm plinth
#

I was very sad that the change to Chargath was not what I thought it was; so now I just don't know what that change meant.

daring marlin
#

wtf does the change even do?

warm plinth
#

Let me know when you find out

daring marlin
#

I've been LoLing too much

warm plinth
#

Oh wait, huh

#

It's sort of what I thought but not really

#

It looks like him getting the fetter debuff (the thing he gets from hitting a chain cancels his fiery focus cast

sick sentinel
#

wait i know

warm plinth
#

He got hit by fetter right before the cast cancelled

#

So I think that's what it is

lusty grotto
#

yeah thats part of the bug

warm plinth
#

It's not a bug anymore apparently; he's supposed to do it

lusty grotto
#

where a chain wouldn't count

daring marlin
#

Does it not bug anymore?

warm plinth
#

No this is nothing to do with a chain not counting though

sick sentinel
#

hunter from the run we just did

warm plinth
#

I've never had a chain not count unless the person died before the chain was broken so idk about that one

lusty grotto
#

i have

#

multiple times

#

fetter is a stack

#

so if a chain doesnt count

#

by the time you chain him 3 times

#

you have 2x fetter

#

and he wont get stunned

modern gazelle
#

alright so just so im sure, in the neltharus hall before 2nd boss, are you doing 1 big pull or 2 pulls? and are you grabbing the mobs on right side when you walk in the hallway or hugging left and skipping?

sick sentinel
#

1.25 million avalanche dmg oh he's a MM, weird, i don't think i see alot of those

modern gazelle
#

since its fort ive been doing 2 pulls, everything in front half then everyhing in back half

warm plinth
#

πŸ™ƒ

#

Glad I haven't run into that one

lusty grotto
#

yeah its rough

warm plinth
#

But this is the new change they made to him where if you fetter him during the fiery focus cast, he cancels it

lusty grotto
#

right

#

so if that was contributing to it, then its possible that it wont happen

#

as in the bug

warm plinth
#

That would be nice

lusty grotto
#

hard to say without logs, and i usually dont upload failed runs

warm plinth
#

Because I think a lot of people do the one insta-break

#

So maybe that was causing it to happen a lot

lusty grotto
#

insta break does happen but most of the time he jumps before being tripped

#

so thats why its not that common

warm plinth
#

Well, that's why you drag the chain right on top of him; that way the tank doesn't have to do the awkward movement to force the leap before dragging him through the chain

lusty grotto
#

right

warm plinth
#

But yeah, idk. I don't even know how much impact this really has

#

I guess on ihgher keys it's more important because it cancels the lava puddles, giving your ranged a more chill phase

lusty grotto
#

both the bug and that yea

#

even though its way too late in the season

#

but it is what it is

warm plinth
#

Indeed

#

Until we have Neltharus next season as well keks

#

Do you think they'll redo some dragonflight dungeons or will it be like S4 shadowlands where we have all non-expansion dungeons

#

(besides DotI of course)

proper roost
#

has to be redos

#

since s4 df is gonna exist

#

at least theyve hinted heavily at it

warm plinth
#

Fair, which ones would you like to see, assuming they don't just swap to the other 4 again

sick sentinel
#

was there a mega of wod

warm plinth
#

no

#

BFA was the first megadungeon

#

No that isn't true

#

Legion was

#

Karazhan, then Mechagon, then Tazavesh

#

And now Dawn

#

There wasn't really a point in introducing new dungeons before M+ existed I don't think.

#

Because the highest gear was from mythic 0 (dungeon-wise) and those are on weekly lockout

#

Now that they're repeatable in endgame content, it makes more sense to want to keep the dungeon pool fresh

sick sentinel
#

sbg needs changed if it ever comes back

proper roost
#

Dawn 2x
AA
RLP
HoI
Uldaman (hot take moment)
2x bfa keys

warm plinth
#

I'd rather Uldaman than HoI to be honest. HoI is easily the most boring dungeon of the pool

sick sentinel
#

only 3 scary things in that dungeon, void slap, death slap, and wall slap

proper roost
#

hoi is the most heal check key next to rlp

#

this entire season

#

is a big deal imo

sick sentinel
#

i know its easy but i hate the final hallway of hoi

warm plinth
#

I don't think we'll see 4 DF in addition to Dawn, but I could be wrong

#

Depends how many keys they think they can push out that aren't new

proper roost
#

if its only 2 others id really want rlp + x

warm plinth
#

Yeah, I think RLP + AA would be great

#

Or RLP + Nokhud

proper roost
#

AA is my second favorite out of all of them but they could pick one of the s2 ones

#

the reason I think ulda could be interesting is that i think ppl still havent really optimized it

#

its a very unpopular key

warm plinth
#

If we only get one S2 then I'd want Uldaman for sure. It's the one I enjoy the most of this season

proper roost
#

Kind of a feedback loop

warm plinth
#

It's hard, but it's fun

proper roost
#

people dont practice it, they dont like it, it doesnt get optimized so it's hard, no one practices it

lusty grotto
#

well what was SL s3?

#

or was tazavesh only in s4?

warm plinth
#

S3 was all the dungeons + Tazavesh

#

It was a 10 dungeon season

lusty grotto
#

yeah so

#

its possible they will repeat that

warm plinth
#

But I doubt they doa 10 dungeon one again

proper roost
#

they didnt have rotating keys til s4

warm plinth
#

They seem to like having 8 dungeons

proper roost
#

so its not the same comparison

lusty grotto
#

true enough

proper roost
#

Ya they specifically said they did 8 at start of df s1 because itd be harder for people to learn the keys

#

when they change every season

sick sentinel
#

10 dungeons is alot of knowledge to haave

#

didnt work so good in SL

warm plinth
#

Well, it was fine in SL because 6 of the 8 dungeons were repeats

sick sentinel
#

well, and they were the dungeons you were doing as level up and heroics

warm plinth
#

Right, and BFA dungeons at least had the same mechanics between heroic and mythic

#

Idk why they didn't keep that tbh

modern gazelle
#

for pull 5/6 what is everyone doing in that area?

warm plinth
#

I usually do pull 5, then go across and head toward Magmatusk, then use chains again on pull 6, and then after boss you use on pull 9

modern gazelle
warm plinth
#

Yeah but that's a tiny pull; you should pull shit inside too

#

I usually grab the miniboss and some of the other mobs around the that room for the first chain pull

south zealot
#

yes sounds right

sand drum
#

@shut summit
looking at your logs, do you use beacon outside of avatar prepull cus it does not increase dmg of beacon or why ?
talking to my GM and he says its BS to not pre avatar then beacon

warm plinth
#

Like if you just do pull 1, that's only 3 mobs basically

sand drum
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

warm plinth
#

All CDs are whitelisted, your GM is dumb

modern gazelle
#

can you link a route? i always have the issue of losing agro if i try to do too big of pulls

warm plinth
#

They do not affect non-class abilities

#

Just be communicative. Tell group to go to the chain and wait

#

If they die, they die. They can run back and you're killing the pack w/ chains anyway

sand drum
#

sry for interrupt Gash πŸ˜›

warm plinth
#

No no, you're fine

#

We're here for questions

sand drum
modern gazelle
#

what abotu healer agro?

warm plinth
#

It means they are given a filter that makes them only work on things that are in your character's spellbook/talents

#

Think like a blacklist, but opposite

#

Instead of blacklisting hundreds of outside damage sources, they just make it so it only works on a fixed set of spells

#

That's the list of spells it affects

lusty grotto
#

beacon isnt increased by avatar

#

but its whatever if you wanna pre avatar

sand drum
#

rn I pre LS for 4p πŸ˜›

#

is that trash or :C ?

#

guess more rage better @ pull ?

lusty grotto
#

what

#

can someone translate

sullen valve
#

I pre-avatar on mwahi last night

#

They pre last stand for 4 piece

#

Is that bad?

#

Translation complete

lusty grotto
#

before pull? no

#

if they are waiting on the 4pc though, yeah its bad

#

i.e. if they are waiting on earthen smash to activate

warm plinth
#

Yeah that's not good

modern gazelle
sand drum
#

thx for translation πŸ˜„ @sullen valve πŸ˜„

warm plinth
#

Healer aggro shouldn't really be a problem. Just charge in, get a few hits on the wardens then peace out w/ leap and go pull the room

#

Should be able to avoid most damage, especially since the hunters are going to do their shit on the group, not you

#

When the wardens and other mobs start to gather, you can use defensives then to stabilize

modern gazelle
warm plinth
#

I usually don't head toward the room until after the first blazing slashes

#

Because that also buys me time when they stop to volcanic guard

#

You ahve to be careful how many hunters you pull, even when you're chaining

modern gazelle
#

Hmm alright, if you are able to record a VOD of a run through sometime that would be awesome as well so I can just see how you do pulls

warm plinth
#

Because they do that stupid jump/bleed that trucks your team

#

Yeah for sure

sand drum
#

sleep well boiz πŸ˜„ bedge

modern gazelle
median tulip
#

People not understanding the ranged guys in NL is the bane of my tanking experience this week

warm plinth
#

Which ranged guys, the pelters?

median tulip
#

A whole party with hard stops and nobody using them apart from me

median tulip
warm plinth
#

Yeah...what level keys you doing?

median tulip
#

20s

warm plinth
#

oh okay

proper roost
#

yeah people won't really know how to play on 20s

warm plinth
#

Was gonna say if you're into the 22-23 range, it's a good idea to actually CC on the double pelter packs and just combine each pelter w/ another pull

proper roost
#

at this point in the season

median tulip
#

They kinda sting, especially on cloth

warm plinth
#

Especially on fort weeks

proper roost
#

but yeah for high fort keys you don't actually ever want to do double pelter

#

since they can straight up oneshot a clothie at high enough fort level if both pelts go on the same target

#

and they are the prio target so

#

they will jump

#

its very common to have spriest MC one of them on the double pulls

median tulip
#

The actual best thing is to have a Priest MC one

proper roost
#

I mean

median tulip
#

Lol, snap

proper roost
#

It's not good because the MC is good

#

MC targets don't really do damage

warm plinth
#

Plus they can go on the same person 3 times in a row, so if both decide to bully...

proper roost
#

it's because MC is the only real hard cc that exists in god comp

warm plinth
#

Well, you can sheep them; they're humanoid

proper roost
#

eh

#

spriest matters less

warm plinth
#

lasts twice as long as spriest MC too

proper roost
#

anyway nothing about MC is inherently good on pelter

#

literally any hard CC is sufficient

warm plinth
#

I'm actually curious if it would be worth just CCing one while you pull another pack and just letting the pack around it go ham on it

proper roost
#

prob not since it would just aggro on healer then

warm plinth
#

Yeah that's true

median tulip
#

Enhance Shammies are actually really good at dealing with them. They have 3 different multi-target stops for them. If they know how to play.

proper roost
#

i mean

warm plinth
#

I think the biggest problem w/ those pulls as you get to 20s and push slightly past is people are still used to not focusing them

proper roost
#

you're mostly speaking out of luxury in 20s atm

warm plinth
#

But you really need to on keys that high

proper roost
#

they don't die fast in fort

#

at 20s they will die relatively fast, after, they do not, 20+ scales harder than sub 20

#

much harder

warm plinth
#

Your mom scales harder than sub 20

#

gottem

proper roost
#

just because my mom is a scaly doesn't mean she can be judged sadga

median tulip
#

Priority targeting is definitely a thing people in 16-20s often do not know

proper roost
#

i think that is not an attitude you want to hold going forward honestly

median tulip
#

Doing 16-17 for crests is actively excruciating. I should not be regularly second on the DPS

proper roost
#

your personal knowledge is also contingent on the keys you're doing

#

and you'll quickly hit a wall or simply quit due to frustration if you just think you are inherently better than everyone at the same key level you are

#

at

#

no one deserves to be any higher io, the vast majority of people are where they belong and climb slowly

median tulip
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Pugs are a total crapshoot but most of my guild has got bored and gone to play BG3

crude notch
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Literally gas anyone that thinks they deserve being a higher IO than they are currently. Do the work and stfu.

proper roost
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and it's pretty common to think you are better than everyone else

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at your key level

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doesn't matter what key level

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that's why most people don't end up being able to push

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Bad attitude to have

median tulip
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I often make mistakes. It's why I read my logs after a run.

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Always something to learn.

proper roost
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that's very different from initially saying "X thing is a thing that Y people in the key levels i'm doing don't know" (initially)

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which isn't actually true

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and a terrible attitude to have

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to start out with

median tulip
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It's a statement of fact

proper roost
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no, it really isn't

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i've done 100x more keys than you this season

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that just isn't the case

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people know things you don't

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you know things other people don't

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that is how pushing works

median tulip
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People often don't priority target the pelters because they're coming from key levels where you don't have to

crude notch
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And you're coming from?

proper roost
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which is different from not having the correct priority target. If i'm clearing for efficiency (which i often do on my warrior when doing low keys) I'm not targeting a pelter because it makes the run slower

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and it does not lead to lethality

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so claiming that this is a wrong priority target, to not target the pelter at that key level

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is wrong

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you are making a claim borne of ignorance on your end as much as the players you claim to have more knowledge than

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You aren't the first person to think this way nor will you be the last

median tulip
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I'm going to ignore you now, because this entire conversation is you arguing with me about something you imagine I've said, not something I actually said

proper roost
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You are just another person in the long line of posts one week of complaints then quits after 2 weeks

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because you are too much better than anyone else

proper roost
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they will come and go

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like tears in the rain

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forgotten bedge

crude notch
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Someone hacked your computer?

proper roost
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i wonder what it is about M+ that makes everyone think their experiences are unique

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that they are the only ones with bad pugs

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that they alone have uniquely bad pugs compared to everyone else

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that they're the only ones whose friends have taken breaks from M+ pushing 14 (15? 16 i think?) weeks into a season

crude notch
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Don't have to have bad pugs when you ARE the bad pug

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We're amidst week 14. I only ever can keep track because of my stupid weekly numbers

proper roost
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so halfway through the season

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aka 3/4ths through the season

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aka 90% through with the season

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aka the season is over this is basically the last week.

crude notch
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p much

proper roost
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The actual phenomenon is it's always people starting this late into a season of keys

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believing they are any more knowledgeable than anyone else

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like in week 1-2 almost everyone is pretty cognizant of the fact that everyone is equally kind of shit

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oh what I would give to have week 1-2 keys back again. that was way more fun sadga

crude notch
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I love first two weeks of the season. Everyone running around with their heads chopped off.

proper roost
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ya now every other person is just like this

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"i'm better than everyone else, they're not learning just like me, they should just know the same exact things as me"

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sadga not fun

uneven mason
crude notch
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huh?

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In the context of the conversation we're having rotating dungeons is in fact the right play.

daring marlin
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wewlad working a knot out of your back with a tennis ball

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feelsgoodman

crude notch
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Tennis balls are big dubs

warm plinth
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Thought about getting a set of those chirp wheel things

proper roost
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what's a chirp wheel

daring marlin
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Eh. I just use a foam roller normally.

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Bust out the tennis ball when I need something more precise like a spot right under my shoulderblade xan

proper roost
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u could use...

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nvm

daring marlin
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gimme a backrub kanga

proper roost
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i love giving massages

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tbh

daring marlin
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πŸ‘€

south zealot
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use dn

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holy moly

daring marlin
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holy cannoli

proper roost
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more like holy guacamole lol idiot

south zealot
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gottem

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get fucked

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moron

daring marlin
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You guys see that redhead farmer dude singing? guess that's also a psyop cuz everything is a psyop nowadays

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lmao

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people are so funny on the webz

crude notch
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Yo I just found out my work has a peloton bike and treadmill wtf

warm plinth
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big pog

jagged gust
warm plinth
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I can pop my own back generally, but sometimes you just wanna fuck that shit up you know

crude notch
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I could've been getting paid for my cardio this whole time wtf

warm plinth
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I have thought about getting one of those desk treadmills

crude notch
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Yo this thing is dope

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I know what I'm doing an hour of each shift for now on