I stand by each of those statements
#protection
toxic pewter
lusty tiger
E🅱️ic
high aspen
doki doki literature club?
toxic pewter
meanwhile you all play league and prove my point
lusty tiger
doki doki literature club?
I don’t actually
crude notch
bro how'd you say that shit 3 times in an hour and a half
toxic pewter
it is effective
high aspen
I don’t actually
its not a dating sim so maybe dont play it
lusty grotto
man idk, its fucking weird to me how most mythic guilds have NSFW channels and the only thing there is fucking japanese cartoons, yall need to touch grass
lusty grotto
meanwhile you all play league and prove my point
i dont
and still disagree with you
daring marlin
lusty tiger
man idk, its fucking weird to me how most mythic guilds have NSFW channels and t...
Boomers have failed us so here we are, thanks for the war stories grandpa
high aspen
man idk, its fucking weird to me how most mythic guilds have NSFW channels and t...
mine has pictures of their naked baldurs gate characters (unironically mostly men)
lusty grotto
Boomers have failed us so here we are, thanks for the war stories grandpa
shut up weirdo
lusty tiger
: D
toxic pewter
Do not talk down about veterens in my presence jeree
lusty tiger
Lol
toxic pewter
that is rude and disrespectful
high aspen
apb what is your opinions on the game world of warcraft dragonflight?
daring marlin
toxic pewter
well that is all out of context
daring marlin
toxic pewter
at the time I though that until i saw df dungeons
yeah dos sucks
that is true
we all can agree
narrow jay
whats our stat prio haste<vers<mastery<crit? i have tier legs 441 that are high crit and low vers. I just got 447 legs from vault that are high mastery lower haste. Would they be better off staying as they are or should i comvery them to the tier stats of high crit low vers? i have 5 set btw so this doesnt disrupt anything.
lusty tiger
whats our stat prio haste<vers<mastery<crit? i have tier legs 441 that are high ...
Str >> haste > crit
daring marlin
crude notch
LMAOI
toxic pewter
that was true at the time
crude notch
guilford is gunning for you
sick sentinel
de other side from the view of a timed dungeon IS the worst dungeon ever
crude notch
apb is quite literally a bot
sick sentinel
thats just a fact
crude notch
same thing over and over
narrow jay
wait so all my crafted gear is haste vers should irt ecraft it all haste crit?
sick sentinel
its not a bad dungeon in terms of design
crude notch
that's up to you.
sick sentinel
or mechanics
daring marlin
brazen yarrow
daring marlin
It's actually insane
toxic pewter
de other side from the view of a timed dungeon IS the worst dungeon ever
yeah see, dos is a known hated dungeon by many
sick sentinel
its a shit dungeon for how much you need to walk around and for having 5 bosses
toxic pewter
It's actually insane
r u ok
lusty tiger
Guilford should be a lawyer
sick sentinel
its a relatively small ring
sick sentinel
and it still takes forever to progress on
daring marlin
I love WoW
toxic pewter
I stand behind all my statements, its easy to take things out of context
but yeah SL were my least favorite dungeons
until i did the DF ones
daring marlin
lusty tiger
Apb plays each expansions for a new set of least favorite dungeons
daring marlin
Next expac he'll say SL had the best dungeons ever
sick sentinel
i think that the theme of de other side is perfect
toxic pewter
Yeah compared to df sl were not that bad after all
daring marlin
toxic pewter
yeah at the time I was hyped for df
sick sentinel
giant ghost thing fighting with you at the end THERE BE NO ESCAPING DEATH! and hes talking shit to bob salami the whole time
toxic pewter
little did i know.. 
daring marlin
You genuinely add nothing of value
You make everyone that reads your posts dumber.
daring marlin
I don't repeat the same dogass garbage thrice in an hour.
jagged pier
apb i asked u earlier to stop
daring marlin
are they in the room with you right now?
crude notch
🙂
toxic pewter
its you
lusty tiger
Chatroom
toxic pewter
you snide individual
charred gyro
Hes thriving through the dungeons
daring marlin
damn must suck being undressed like that
crude notch
we get it
toxic pewter
I am not
lusty tiger
Just be the master baiter it’s ok
crude notch
then contradict yourself the next day
toxic pewter
I speak my mind and you cannot seem to handle this
not everyone has to agree with you and the gang
daring marlin
toxic pewter
not everyone has to agree with me
but you want me silenced for some reason
its weird
crude notch
If that's what you're gathering from this discussion you're a lost cause
jagged pier
i want u not to bring up the same conversation every hour
dark lark
jagged pier
in a channel that isnt actually suited for it
if u want
post in general
or off topic
much more apt for the conversation
toxic pewter
sounds good
sick sentinel
i legitimiately mean this and not in a rude way but its a group effort solo everyone go touch grass sitaution and the problem is solved
just like, go out side or somethin
take 15
crude notch
tbf off topic conversations have literally been approved by mods so
As long as it's not mongo
lusty tiger
just like, go out side or somethin
daring marlin
i legitimiately mean this and not in a rude way but its a group effort solo ever...
I was already outside
crude notch
yeah agreed jakey
daring marlin
I do intend to go for a walk, maybe a bike ride
high aspen
i am litterally outside as we speak
sick sentinel
well, more outside then
crude notch
I ran 2 miles this morning thank you
sick sentinel
outside makes you heallthy and feel good
crude notch
yogi, why are you of all people telling us to go outside lol
lusty tiger
I am in a building which stands outside
daring marlin
I'm currently chilling as my legs are still sorta jello.
sick sentinel
cuz they are fighting over dumb shit lmao
modern brook
I'm currently chilling as my legs are still sorta jello.
Sorry 😘
crude notch
weird definition of a fight
sick sentinel
and it turns out alot of times, you just take a few hours or sleep on it
and then its not such a big deal any more
crude notch
yogi
you're being a bot rn
We're talking about apb saying the same thing every 3 hours over and over and over. That's not something you just take a few hours or sleep on.
lol
lusty grotto
i wonder who it is
high aspen
apb what is your opinion on the new pansion named "Shadowlands" i really like the dungeons in it!!!!
lusty tiger
i wonder who it is
That’s my boi
lusty tiger
i wonder who it is
Tell him jerry says hi
toxic pewter
I want everyone to know I will strive to do better, I realize sometimes I have been a bit critical in the past. I will work on this so that the vibes I give off are more positive. Thank you.
lusty tiger
I want everyone to know I will strive to do better, I realize sometimes I have b...
I forgive you buddy
narrow jay
so im about to craft a Neck the torc of passed time should i make it haste crit or haste vers?
toxic pewter
I forgive you buddy
thx jeree
sick sentinel
this game has fucking everything, you can take shrooms or become a god or invincible dog that mauls everyone
lusty tiger
so im about to craft a Neck the torc of passed time should i make it haste crit ...
Sim… but prob haste crit
modern brook
i beat the wheelchair boss last night
Me after a successful day at physical therapy
sick sentinel
what you guys think of the buffs we got today
buff?
you mean we are stronger now
lusty tiger
I have spent all day at work playing RuneScape
toxic pewter
is that game any fun
lusty tiger
No it just satiates your depression
toxic pewter
i see
lusty grotto
ez 100
plush tendon
people in my guild love runescape
sick sentinel
its my sworn duty to shoot and destroy nazis in all forms
lusty tiger
sick sentinel
so, back to rott for a bit
lusty grotto
south zealot
o ok
lusty grotto
lol
plush tendon
lusty grotto
that was sark
south zealot
i dont think most ppl know yet
lusty grotto
but yeah it dont matter
plush tendon
I had no clue
high aspen
even the people doing 40 dps are showing up as a 100 parse rn
high aspen
fucking pumping
daring marlin
I wanna slap as ret
lusty grotto
outdpsed half the raid though so
high aspen
so hes also handicapped
lusty tiger
Tragic
lusty tiger
Yeah because m+ of all reasons
high aspen
they keep changing the damage when its the utility
lusty grotto
indeed
lusty tiger
Could have just 2x mass dispel CD or something
lusty grotto
its weird but even if you go into the comments for the changes, the common Wowhead andy also understands this, which is absolutely bananas
and yet
blizzard cannot understand it
high aspen
they bring so much in term of utility, there damage itself is the most balanced part of their kit
prepare for rework number 4 this pansion already lol
lusty grotto
they will no doubt get some buffs S3
and then some nerfs when the stars align and everything is mass dispellable, mind soothable, and/or mind controllable
high aspen
sisyphus spriest combo wtffff
uncut thunder
Averaging 18 and 19 mostly timing them except for bad groups (or maybe I’m the problem) but I want to get to my goal of 20s. Never done it. I’m wondering if Spore cloak will help me overall when missing mechs or standing in bad etc. thanks.
lusty tiger
#news message wtf is this
uncut thunder
Maybe the cheat death trinket out of the new mega? I have not had an opportunity to run it yet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/15lfbw4/im_at_the_point_where_lariat_is_simming_well/ people seem to dig it.
lusty grotto
well i suppose, but it's probably easier to work on dodging correctly
lariat is no bueno for prot
even with full sockets
uncut thunder
Well that I do know. But the thread goes into the Spore cloak mostly
When you start reading down into it.
lusty grotto
are you really reading reddit comments
uncut thunder
Well just that people enjoy the cheat death aspects.
But yeah I should be careful there…
lusty grotto
🤷
uncut thunder
This is me. https://raider.io/characters/us/hyjal/Fedaaykin
lusty grotto
my perspective is different but ive never thought "gee i sure wish i had a cheat death item" in any given situation
uncut thunder
Yeah might just need to study one dungeon and go for the 20
jagged gust
which mechanic are you having problems with?
Recruiting competent healers
uncut thunder
Not something in particular
lusty grotto
ok but can you think of any?
uncut thunder
First boss in BH so much grp dmg in tyrant
lusty grotto
yeah but thats...
youre not gonna die from it
and if you die, your healer is the problem and/or lack of defensives
as tank, i mean
uncut thunder
Yeah im more thinking if im the problem of not I want it to be a sucess adn what can i do to ensure it
lusty grotto
i mean at this point in the season
you should have enough sparks
so craft if it if you want, and try to keep track on how many times it goes off
just keep in mind, it replaces 1 embelish
lusty tiger
Dying because you don’t have sporecloak means you’re doing other things wrong unrelated to the cloak
uncut thunder
Yeah I will need to craft two items for it or switch to a backup gear
uncut thunder
Dying because you don’t have sporecloak means you’re doing other things wrong un...
Oh im sure of that
jagged pier
Sporecloak bad please dont craft it
lusty tiger
Oh im sure of that
If you need help post logs or ask about things that went wrong in your keys
Or any trends of errors you may notice
jagged pier
^^
uncut thunder
ok will do
jagged pier
Gear is never the issue well 99% of the time not the issue
uncut thunder
well that i know but gear CAN smooth out me playing bad
or a teammate not playing well 🙂
jagged pier
depends on the gear sporecloak isnt one of those pieces
uncut thunder
uncut thunder
lusty tiger
Why are you, as a man, not wearing 5 inch inseam shorts?
?
plush tendon
alright, first thing ill say..... thats a nice looking comp you got there
Enhacement and WW!
uncut thunder
yeah for PUGs
lusty grotto
you died in BH because you didnt block
lusty grotto
your dps died, because they didnt use defensives on 1st boss
plush tendon
thats a comp I want to run
uncut thunder
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3d1YQHpAJfc8ygZK - this one was a 21 attempt and the rouge and pally were complainign that i was not holding aggro and they were dieing i never saw that occure but rather that they stood in the WW or got fixated
lusty grotto
because he didnt use a personal
the monk used absolutely nothing
your block should be higher
warm plinth
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Q6WcVq3AbNxmPTXD
This my friend, is what we call getting hit in the back.
lusty grotto
oof
warm plinth
You can't block if you're not facing things
uncut thunder
This my friend, is what we call getting hit in the back.
ok i think i was running around all squirly so I need to calm down
modern brook
ok i think i was running around all squirly so I need to calm down
vod review helps a lot with things like that if you can get a recording
warm plinth
#1 thing tanks do that pisses me off as any other role is when they move for no reason.
modern brook
also breifly reviewing the log for the 21
lusty grotto
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3d1YQHpAJfc8ygZK - this one was a 21 attemp...
well they were taking melee hits so yea
modern brook
you're def watching dps die to melees
warm plinth
Even when you do need to move, it's probably just a little bit. And a lot of times you can immediately move back where you were.
lusty grotto
these arent fighters so they arent fixating, there was def some agro issues
modern brook
oh actually nevermind sorry
uncut thunder
well they were taking melee hits so yea
any idication i lost aggro or if it was related to WW or fixated?
modern brook
that was a wipe where you died first
lusty grotto
any idication i lost aggro or if it was related to WW or fixated?
the melee hits
are the indication
modern brook
all of these are you dying
modern brook
this one is you losing aggro to the pally
and the rest are your team afraid to use potions or something on boss
lusty grotto
and to be fair the rogue did use tricks
lusty grotto
well a total of 9 times in the instance
modern brook
well a total of 9 times in the instance
its only a 10minute log lol
lusty grotto
yeah
modern brook
thats like basically every pull
jagged pier
and ummm u need to actually press you buttons
IP should not
be your top cast
your starving yourself of rage
lusty grotto
IP spammerinoos
jagged pier
without generating any
uncut thunder
Yeah I have it on my mouse wheel and a spin it a ton, must be over doing it
thanks for theat advise
warm plinth
~~mousewheel bindings 🤢 ~~
uncut thunder
its muscle mem now but I can slow it down
lusty grotto
you have probably developed a bad habit of using it
just dont use it on mousewheel
use mousewheel for camera like its defaulted to
uncut thunder
just dont use it on mousewheel
easier said then down. its been my KB for a long lone while
frigid urchin
use a WA that shows your IP ammount and shieldblock uptime so you do not overcap.
https://wago.io/LuxthosWarriorDragonflight does that i.e.
lusty grotto
use a WA that shows your IP ammount and shieldblock uptime so you do not overcap...
no
this is not good advice
warm plinth
Your casts per minute on all these logs are a lot lower than they should be as well. Like idk how you did 17 minutes of an Uldaman with 25 casts per minute
lusty grotto
IP should still be used as a dump
lusty tiger
overcapping ip is fine
warm plinth
Yeah that's terrible advice heh
lusty grotto
it doesnt matter if you overcap or not
lusty tiger
running dry on rage is not fine
keen epoch
#1 thing tanks do that pisses me off as any other role is when they move for no ...
this is a side effect of every tank guide saying "kiting is good" and never explaining how and when it should actually be done
keen epoch
dota 2 has vc and that still happens
warm plinth
this is a side effect of every tank guide saying "kiting is good" and never expl...
what tank guide says kiting is good 👀
daring marlin
warm plinth
I'm asking you which tank guide says that lol
south zealot
i move for no reason but thats bc im a freak and need to have 150 apm or i get braindamage idk
modern brook
You dont want to IP when you can revenge, basically
lusty grotto
its not guides, its just a sideeffect from playing VDH and/or BDH (and to a certain extent, Prot Pally)
warm plinth
Because no tank guide should say that
modern brook
oh my chat didnt load ignore me
warm plinth
And full blown kiting is useful .0000001% of the time. Like the only use-case I can think of this season is if a pelter jumps right next to 2nd boss
lusty tiger
having to kite as tank is the least fun thing in the game
crude notch
idk dying is pretty up there
keen epoch
And full blown kiting is useful .0000001% of the time. Like the only use-case I...
this is literally on the prot warrior guide
crude notch
"when needed"
keen epoch
yeah that's what i was talking about
crude notch
reading without reading
keen epoch
you're doing that to my messages right now literally
warm plinth
That is probably something that should not be in the guide lol. Or at least rewritten to tone it down.
south zealot
yeah i wouldnt say the importance of it personally
warm plinth
Same
And I'd probably more use that section to talk about things like jagged bite or oceanic breath
keen epoch
right but what i was saying is that's why a lot of tanks do that random movement, is because of stuff like this
warm plinth
Not like actively running away from mobs
crude notch
no
keen epoch
people see "oh i should kite and its very important"
warm plinth
Nah I don't think that's the case.
We're not talking about running away from mobs
We're talking about not staying the fuck still
keen epoch
like slowly back stepping away from them throughout the pull?
that's also a form of kiting
frigid urchin
there are some packs you at least try to outrange like the 5 Rockback Gnarsher in the water in NL or the Refti Custodian in Uldaman
modern brook
people see "oh i should kite and its very important"
this is a classic case of schrodingers guide
warm plinth
No, like randomly moving all the time
modern brook
I cant get people to read the fucking priority
and you're telling me every new tank is reading that blurb dug somewhere in how to play?
warm plinth
crude notch
That blurb is literally 5% of that entire page
keen epoch
then the answer is people are dumb and you're dumb for asking a question you know the answer to
warm plinth
Cool, I'm sure I deserved that personal attack
uncut thunder
ok in summery I need to stop spamming IP and use more of my Offensives to ensure im holding aggro
warm plinth
And press more buttons in general
modern brook
ok in summery I need to stop spamming IP and use more of my Offensives to ensure...
I havent read all of them but I would HIGHLY suggest focussing on pressing buttons more
warm plinth
Even in BH your CPM was like 15-20 below what it should have been.
modern brook
CPM was very low
sick sentinel
Barbaric training is op huge damage
warm plinth
Okay more like 10-15, but w/e
crude notch
Belt, not right now man, people are actually trying to learn and ask question
lusty grotto
Barbaric training is op huge damage
dont fucking bait this shit
crude notch
go troll elsewhere
lusty grotto
spreading misinformation is bad for this channel
sick sentinel
Jeez chill out dweebs
uncut thunder
Okay more like 10-15, but w/e
and this is caused by maybe not having enough rage to press buttons? as im spamming IP and using too much rage?
lusty grotto
you need to understand that
warm plinth
Pretty sure he was just memeing off my name lol
sick sentinel
yup
crude notch
That doesn't make it okay
lusty grotto
doesnt matter
crude notch
in the middle of the conversation of teaching someone how to play better blurting that out
uncut thunder
yeah dude im attempting to get better and others are too 🙂
gusty stratus
Defensive stance is only used on tank busters right
warm plinth
and this is caused by maybe not having enough rage to press buttons? as im spamm...
That's a big part of it, I'm sure, since spending twice as much rage per cast is bad when you don't have to.
Yes, and even then it's not really needed below like, 22-23 keys probably?
You can use it ofc but you shouldn't need to provided you're playing properly otherwise
crude notch
https://tenor.com/view/billy-crystal-tissue-kleenex-tempo-stop-crying-gif-150480...
Is it really too much to ask to not fucking be a trolling asshat when people are asking genuine questioins?
sick sentinel
Waa waa
lusty grotto
https://tenor.com/view/billy-crystal-tissue-kleenex-tempo-stop-crying-gif-150480...
understand it please, because even if you think its not wrong, there are lurkers so do not meme about it without context thinking everyone will "get it"
lusty tiger
Defensive stance is only used on tank busters right
its decent if youre doing a VERY big pull and are prone to a few hits while grouping
gusty stratus
Y’all are spicy over a game lmao
crude notch
or you need to not misread emotions
gusty stratus
its decent if youre doing a VERY big pull and are prone to a few hits while grou...
For sure, I try to stay in offensive as much as possible
crude notch
🙂
gusty stratus
But just not sure when it’s appropriate to switch
sick sentinel
Or you need to chill out
lusty tiger
But just not sure when it’s appropriate to switch
but yes also for tank busters
gusty stratus
Is intimidating shout on CD?
crude notch
Or you need to chill out
Irony is you getting pissy because people asked you not to do something while others are trying to learn
Fucking christ kid
uncut thunder
Thanks folks I apprecaite it. Where in the log can I see and track my CPM and my IP casts to measure if im getting better?
warm plinth
It's on GCD, if that's what you mean
lusty tiger
Is intimidating shout on CD?
i like to save for simultaneous casts but if you need it, you need it so you use it
gusty stratus
Thanks folks I apprecaite it. Where in the log can I see and track my CPM and m...
There is a “cast” button filter at too
warm plinth
Thanks folks I apprecaite it. Where in the log can I see and track my CPM and m...
There's a casts tab at the top
gusty stratus
Top
sick sentinel
Irony is you getting pissy because people asked you not to do something while ot...
Irony is i you are all uptight as fuck boomers
warm plinth
Total CPM is at the bottom
gusty stratus
i like to save for simultaneous casts but if you need it, you need it so you use...
For sure, this may be dumb but IP and Shield up 100% ?
And revenge after?
lusty grotto
Irony is i you are all uptight as fuck boomers
we're requesting you to stop, can you stop being a child?
warm plinth
IP is kind of a byproduct of doing the rotation properly. THe uptime should be fairly high but there's not a magic number.
lusty tiger
For sure, this may be dumb but IP and Shield up 100% ?
- shield up always
- ip to prevent rage overcap
gusty stratus
For sure
sick sentinel
we're requesting you to stop, can you stop being a child?
I say one thing and you both act like a child crying so no
grow up
crude notch
Irony is i you are all uptight as fuck boomers
Yes, in a class discord which is designed around educating people on how to perform better, the people that are the problem are the ones wanting to educate people on how to perform better.
gusty stratus
So it’s worth extending IP even if up just to not rage cap
warm plinth
Shield Block or Last Stand (w/ tier and the corresponding build) should be up at all times
sick sentinel
gusty stratus
Last stand is on CD??
lusty tiger
So it’s worth extending IP even if up just to not rage cap
yes
warm plinth
Yes we do not care about overcapping Ignore Pain
gusty stratus
For sure
warm plinth
What do you mean by on CD
lusty tiger
Last stand is on CD??
iirc with new 4pc yes
gusty stratus
For sure
crude notch
I say one thing and you both act like a child crying so no
Why is it such a big ask?
We literally made one simple request
gusty stratus
Prob need to re read the guide on wowhead lol
warm plinth
Or icy-veins, yeah. Get a sense of the rotation, practice on dummies
sick sentinel
Why is it such a big ask?
I say one thing and now you keep pinging me when i would of been quiet, stop being so mad u got baited moron ty now stop pinging and let it go cause you are carrying on and i dont care
lusty tiger
Prob need to re read the guide on wowhead lol
all about:
- blocking
- hitting every SS proc
- rage economy (never having an empty global)
- using defensives since you farm them back so quickly
crude notch
I say one thing and now you keep pinging me when i would of been quiet, stop bei...
Except you weren't quiet.
sick sentinel
PING
uncut thunder
Total CPM is at the bottom
Bottom of which section? Sorry i need a class on Warcraft logs
sick sentinel
PING
gusty stratus
all about:
- blocking
- hitting every SS proc
- rage economy (never having an em...
I’ve been trying to blow defensives outside of boss mech in a minute or so in future
sick sentinel
Except you weren't quiet.
I literally only said that as a joke cause oh look at that guys name, now you carry on when i wouldn't of so now you carry on made me carry on so ty now stop replying to me ty
lusty grotto
I say one thing and now you keep pinging me when i would of been quiet, stop bei...
thats how replies work
crude notch
This is you moving on btw
gusty stratus
Rage economy needs to be better but I just spam revenge when capped
sick sentinel
Cause you just won't shut up and move on
crude notch
this is you moving on btw
warm plinth
Well remember not to spam revenge; you still have other abilities that are higher priority
gusty stratus
Like shield and IP uptime?
modern gazelle
so afflicted affix...we just kind of pretend it doesnt exist and hope hte group does mechanics?
lusty tiger
I’ve been trying to blow defensives outside of boss mech in a minute or so in fu...
yea spell reflect+dstance is really great(against magic) for when shieldwall is down or if you need to save shieldwall for a buster less than a minute away
warm plinth
Shield Slam>TC>Revenge
gusty stratus
Shield Slam>TC>Revenge
Sweet Ty
warm plinth
so afflicted affix...we just kind of pretend it doesnt exist and hope hte group ...
Yep, exactly
fervent ferry
Hot take but he can type if he wants, you guys are just baiting responses from him and dragging it on
lusty tiger
Like shield and IP uptime?
dont care about shield uptime, what you want is %blocked hits
uncut thunder
The casts section
Thanks sir
modern gazelle
Yep, exactly
my kind of affix xD
warm plinth
Sure np
gusty stratus
dont care about shield uptime, what you want is %blocked hits
And this doesn’t come from uptime?
Maybe I’m misinterpreting it
warm plinth
It does
lusty tiger
And this doesn’t come from uptime?
correct
warm plinth
Uptime matters, but it's not what you use to measure your proper use of Shield Block
lusty tiger
^
crude notch
Hot take but he can type if he wants, you guys are just baiting responses from h...
irony
lusty tiger
it matters... that you had it up
charred gyro
Uptime matters, but it's not what you use to measure your proper use of Shield B...
Shield block is literally dmg increase for SS
modern gazelle
whats the execute prio btw? do you wait till 40 rage, or just spam it at 20 rage, and exe>clap or clap>exe?
sick sentinel
Gomo speaks truth
modern gazelle
feel like my exe phase is weak
lusty tiger
Shield block is literally dmg increase for SS
then you would look at SS casts w sb up
jagged gust
use mousewheel for camera like its defaulted to
I have WW on my mousewheel, spin to win baby
warm plinth
Shield block is literally dmg increase for SS
I know o_O What do you mean
warm plinth
whats the execute prio btw? do you wait till 40 rage, or just spam it at 20 rage...
You use it at any rage; and it just replaces revenge in the rotation
modern gazelle
You use it at any rage; and it just replaces revenge in the rotation
okay thats what ive been doing but feels sad when you can cast exe and use clap instead...
like i want exe to be better
warm plinth
The visual carries it for sure
uncut thunder
@warm plinth - are these CPM more in line whith where tehy should be? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jMR1PY86thXgLAfF#fight=last&type=casts&source=2 this was on a sucessful VP 19
warm plinth
That's definitely better, but still low
Should be around high 60s, low 70s
Give or take
gusty stratus
That comes from % of blocked hits
Sorry if regurgitate but just want to make sure I get this, so SHield uptime is really measured on block %’s from shield uptime
gusty stratus
So either way uptime matters?
warm plinth
If you hover over hits next to melee, it'll show your % of blocked hits
gusty stratus
Or were you implying timing of shield cast is more@important
warm plinth
Nah uptime matters, and you should still aim for 100% uptime
gusty stratus
For sure
uncut thunder
Should be around high 60s, low 70s
opk so still less IP and more SS TC and Rev gotcha
warm plinth
Yeah, make sure you're using all your offensive CDs (including LS and Demo) on CD
You will have Demo for every Shield Charge/TR/Ravager
jagged gust
I bound LS and Avatar to Shield Slam, big boi damage
uncut thunder
You will have Demo for every Shield Charge/TR/Ravager
yes that i do most of the time
south zealot
I bound LS and Avatar to Shield Slam, big boi damage
dont do that
warm plinth
I'd advise against that only because you may activate them at the end of a pack by accident.
Which is obviously bad
jagged gust
Yeah no doubt
But I'm kinda overwhelmed by keybinds, so I'm doing what I can to keep it managable for myself
gusty stratus
HHa I feel that
jagged gust
I have a CD WA for self and group yea
warm plinth
Because what you could do is put them all on Demo Shout, and as long as you're tracking their CDs, then you can just press the Demo keybind when they come up
jagged gust
that sounds a lot smarter
crude notch
YOU SOUND A LOT SMARTER
jagged gust
❤️
crude notch
❤️
warm plinth
Just make sure you're watching the CDs so you aren't wasting casts, because neither spell lines up with Demo Shout every time
jagged gust
knowledge is power
lusty tiger
tbh i just bind everything to SS and if it procs at the end of a pull so be it
even sb, and i just have a higher threshold for spending ip
people dont advise but it works very well for me
warm plinth
😢
lusty tiger
hey it checks out in logs
warm plinth
Why must you hurt me jeree
lusty tiger
xD
i dont think im tanking anymore anyway
too annoying routing and calling everyone's kicks and stops etc...
lusty tiger
: D
warm plinth
DId you see that thing that Jdotb posted? Seems interesting
Twitter
If this ends up making the rounds, it could be very useful
lusty tiger
thats dope
uncut thunder
Could be really cool for PUGs if it gets popular
lusty tiger
even with voice it gets hard to call things mid rotation/planning your own defensives/cc/dodging mechanics
torpid fiber
Could be really cool for PUGs if it gets popular
Knowing pugs, there’s going to be plenty of people who use it to troll
velvet stirrup
What is the best way to figure out what piece of gear would be best to replace with a 447 crafted piece?
torpid fiber
Droptimizer
warm plinth
You can run a droptimizer sim
uncut thunder
What is the best way to figure out what piece of gear would be best to replace w...
SIM gear compare
or Drop as said
velvet stirrup
Assuming that does not take into account survivability but moreso DPS? This would be for Prot
uncut thunder
yes
warm plinth
Yes, but we don't gear for survival. Our survival is a byproduct of higher ilevel and proper gameplay.
crude notch
@south zealot gottem friends
proper roost
try to do my key and only vermin apply
hi its me im vermin
velvet stirrup
Would you advise swapping out Frostfire Belt or Shadowflame Patch (on Shield) for Lariat? Or are the others better?
south zealot
now i play league and am automatically assigned 9 vermin to play with
velvet stirrup
Trying to figure out if I should craft Lariat or Torc of Passed Time
sick sentinel
torc
south zealot
torc
velvet stirrup
Perfect, thank you
lusty tiger
now i play league and am automatically assigned 9 vermin to play with
thats the thrill : D
velvet stirrup
Trinkets - I have simmed Droptimizer and it is saying Nelth Call to Chaos and Eduring Dreadplate are best, does that sound reasonably accurate? Then beacon in third place followed by Dragonscale
warm plinth
What trinkets are you running that enduring dreadplate is better
And what sim type are you running?
velvet stirrup
Droptimizer > Heroic Mx Upgrades if that is what you mean? New to the simming side of things
urban portal
Dreadplate is only good in mass aoe
It honestly sounds like mass aoe to me
If call+dread is bis
median tulip
Another day, another VP run without enough Interrupts
warm plinth
He has dreadplate already I think is what he was looking at
lusty tiger
Whirlwind is 360 revenge isn’t
whirlwinning
dusky canopy
Yes
warm plinth
His nickname actually was Whirlwinning at one point I think
lusty tiger
dusky canopy
@warm plinth bro I’m literally embarrassed
It has been spelt that way for probably 3 days now
Lmfao
warm plinth
LOL
dusky canopy
Sub rogue?
warm plinth
outlaw
warm plinth
round pendant
literally any bit of haste is infinitely better than that
warm plinth
Yeah haste is actually my highest stat weight in ST
WEll, in my defense I did not intentionally get 0 haste
dusky canopy
Same homie same!
It was so satisfying
POW pow pow
Proc another one
POW pow pow
warm plinth
My stats are yuge though
dusky canopy
Crit gang let’s gooo
jagged gust
My stats are yuge though
beacon must be fucking huge on that guy
warm plinth
lol, if only I had one
warm plinth
I actually have not great trinkets
Only sin has master assassin now I think
And it's not even 100%
dusky canopy
Oof
warm plinth
warm plinth
I actually used Dance for a bit last season. I wasn't that impressed
Oh it's not bad, only like half what a beacon would do 
Actually like 25% of what beacon would do
lol
warm plinth
Yeah but it's a tiny amount of damage and it's split
It does 7.6k every 2 sec for 10 sec when it procs
dusky canopy
So that number needs to be like 25k
warm plinth
2ppm
So assuming mobs don't die during the effect, that's 76k damage per minute
Mark of Dargrul is like 110k
warm plinth
Or no
220k
I forgot mark is 4 ppm
not 2
Though you do get str from scale
agi, w/e
proud tide
another week, another set of no trinkets in the vault
jagged gust
Running m0's to gather up 80 mobs simultaneously
warm plinth
Running m0's to gather up 80 mobs simultaneously
dusky canopy
M0 boosts are where it’s at
sick sentinel
only way you could get huge value out of it is by using it on somewhere tehre is a ton of adds
proud tide
do i craft a 447 belt or weapon
sick sentinel
like second pull lair rock dudes
dusky canopy
Weapon
proud tide
mkay
sick sentinel
weapon makes you hit harder,
proud tide
twas until last night i found out crafted weapon is better than forge
jagged gust
Next week I craft my boots and have full 447 non tier
dusky canopy
twas until last night i found out crafted weapon is better than forge
In keys yes
Not on raid bosses
sick sentinel
i gotta craft 2 rings and maybe a trinket and then im done
lusty grotto
yes i told him that
proud tide
i only have a 441 ring
proud tide
yes i told him that
yes yes
i just feel sad
the like 50 runs i put on nelth trying to get forge
dusky canopy
Just get it on the 4th run
jagged gust
running 11s I had like 3 drop within 5 dungeons, 17+ havent seen one in a month
dusky canopy
This is the way
proud tide
i havent had a trinket drop in the past 3 weeks
toxic pewter
I got mythic dreadplates yesterday. I’m plate man now
toxic pewter
That’s me
modern gazelle
this week is gonna be rough for keys isnt it...
just went to do my first for the week and dps/heals werent dealing with afflicted at all, sad week for warriors
daring marlin
take classes that can deal with it for you and just vibe
dusky canopy
That’s the dispell affix right?
modern gazelle
had a druid and priest
lavish sphinx
You just had a bad group
modern gazelle
i think every single cast went off, took like 2min to kill the first pull on BH
proud tide
afflicted is mentality, just dont believe in them and they wont show up
dusky canopy
Yeah I agree, you just had bad group members
lusty tiger
tragique
dusky canopy
Are they still totems?
jagged gust
I remember running a sp 2 druids and an evoker, and still had 2 go off on rockmura
modern gazelle
oh i def had bad group members, but i have a feeling that is going to be common this week
which is whats gonna make it rough
dusky canopy
Maybe it’s just been good luck but I haven’t had to much trouble from any of the new affixes
lavish sphinx
Priest healers can solo this affix
dusky canopy
Seems like people in 21s 22s 23s and presumably higher, tend to just know better I guess?
lavish sphinx
^
proud tide
Seems like people in 21s 22s 23s and presumably higher, tend to just know better...
ive never had a problem with afflicited in these keys
if im doing like 17-18s i get the most issues
lavish sphinx
Also just call it out before the key - “hey Priest and Druid, make sure affixes are done”
dusky canopy
if im doing like 17-18s i get the most issues
Well yeah that’s kinda the top end of a “average” M+ player
+17
daring marlin
dusky canopy
modern gazelle
Seems like people in 21s 22s 23s and presumably higher, tend to just know better...
it was a 22BH xD
jagged gust
need all, do it.
rigid schooner
am i assuming right that the only reason i wasnt floorpov is bc you block practicly everything in this dung
lavish sphinx
It’s where a lot of people start learning mechanics, drives me nuts
“I want to bump this 18 or 19 up to a 20”
“Sorry bud, best I can do is giving you a 17”
daring marlin
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372> am i assuming right that the only reason i wasnt f...
warrior owns FH
rigid schooner
had like 2 times when i felt like i was gonna die
and it was the last 2 packs in the dung
rigid schooner
is the other dungs just gonna ass blast me monkaS
daring marlin
Uldaman might
rigid schooner
i havent been playing much warrior this season
jagged gust
That one pack in VP is pretty scary
modern gazelle
also neltharus is sketchy if people arent quick with chains
rigid schooner
fair
modern gazelle
and hulks in NL
lusty grotto
is the other dungs just gonna ass blast me monkaS
no
modern gazelle
in NL how do you guys pull the adds before 2nd boss?
dusky canopy
Weren’t we doing 20s in week 2 or 3 at like 425-430 ilvl?
modern gazelle
i usually do the hulk + add, then do pelter and the 2 on left, then the remaining ones
dusky canopy
After the first round of dungeon hot fixes went through
lavish sphinx
i usually do the hulk + add, then do pelter and the 2 on left, then the remainin...
I just follow the keystone guru routes tbh
Which is pretty much what you’ve said
left basalt
vault time LFG
daring marlin
poor dawn
modern gazelle
i pull the adds on the right after first pull, then go to LOS them around the pillar thing
daring marlin
shoulda tanked my 22 NL!
modern gazelle
we pull 3 extra packs and then our pally asks me "Wtf are you doing tank"
is ther eany other way to tank that???
toxic pewter
U need tank
dusky canopy
Guil are you ret gaming?
daring marlin
Guil are you ret gaming?
correct
modern gazelle
like honestly does anyone do a diff route on FH than pulling the packs on right and LOSing?
lusty grotto
yes
modern gazelle
besides maybe invis
left basalt
every trinket but the actual one I want bacon
dusky canopy
Wait though he’s talking the literal 2nd pull in FH?
modern gazelle
yes
dusky canopy
No you did that right someone clipped the Z axis of the mobs that are in the ground below to the right
It’s a bug
modern gazelle
no idc about the extra pulls, they pulled the ones on the left by the tent on accident
but what im questioning is my pally saying"wtf are you doing tank"
jagged gust
every trinket but the actual one I want *bacon*
OCE is still pretty poggers for arms/fury, actually anvil too
dusky canopy
Oh that’s cringe* (we’ll make that nicer)
modern gazelle
as if i was doing some weird shit pulling those and LOSing lol
dusky canopy
You don’t do those
left basalt
OCE is still pretty poggers for arms/fury, actually anvil too
i have both already
jagged gust
left basalt
447 helm not a total loss
toxic pewter
Is meta different now
toxic pewter
when will we know
lusty grotto
idk, test other shit out
toxic pewter
Ok
dusky canopy
Supposedly nerfs are not substantial enough to change meta it just made the 29s harder for them
Was just chatting about that in M+ disc
modern gazelle
can you link m+ disc?
lusty grotto
brew do they have ban lists on those servers?
ive always wondered
cause that'd be.. bad
warm plinth
Like blacklists? No, we don't.
lusty grotto
cool
modern gazelle
https://discord.gg/mythicplusfriends
oh...nvm...have to be friends, my momma said id never have any and i listened
warm plinth
They're against the rules. You can't even post screenshots with peoples names in them
lusty grotto
well thought out then
warm plinth
Just saves drama
lusty grotto
trying to get chipadin on a M Kazz run but there's like none 😢
warm plinth
Yeah probably clush
lusty grotto
i mean they shouldnt argue about it, communal ban lists are a bad idea
warm plinth
They are 100%
lusty grotto
imagine if you will some guy gets added because he pissed off 1 member for an arbitrary reason and suddenly the entire community has him on a black list and they dont even know the details
dusky canopy
Tbf though the regulars kinda recognize the problem child’s
lusty grotto
its kind of like brigading
warm plinth
We had a guy try to get us to ban someone from the server because he DMed him about a push group and the guy took a nap instead of keying
modern gazelle
We had a guy try to get us to ban someone from the server because he DMed him ab...
hey man, you make a commitment in a video game you better hold it
shouldve contacted discord and had them delete his account
dusky canopy
Completely understandable for being frustrated by it but not worthy of a ban what so ever
That was purely salt
lusty grotto
details at work
lavish sphinx
No Beacon in Vault but a myth track Heart of Thunder at least
toxic pewter
Which more accurate
modern gazelle
No Beacon in Vault but a myth track Heart of Thunder at least
isnt crafted neck better?
dusky canopy
Dawn that’s a trinket
lavish sphinx
Yeah VP trinket
modern gazelle
oh right thinking of the other thing
toxic pewter
I still use my heart of Azeroth
lusty grotto
good
toxic pewter
In nyalotha
modern gazelle
I still use my heart of Azeroth
all my alts had HoA lol when i was leveling them it still gained azeroth power
lusty grotto
x3 BoM 1x DC hella stronk
dusky canopy
Dude Jesus.. isn’t it like a bad omen if birds keep committing into the side of your car while driving
That’s like the 5th one now in two weeks
lusty grotto
fuck i think im kinda screwed, im never gonna get into pug mythic groups
dusky canopy
Lmao
lusty grotto
it seems most happen during my xiv raid time
dusky canopy
Nim believe it or not before I started trial hopping every week I was having the best pug luck on sat/sun for first 3
dusky canopy
Yeppers people do there alts then
lusty grotto
around what time?
dusky canopy
After 5cst is usually when I game weekends
But kinda random
I don’t always try right when I get on
lusty grotto
so like around prime time eastern
dusky canopy
Yes
lusty grotto
ok well ill try, ty for the info
dusky canopy
Ofc it’s probably worth to peak at the lfg now and then while waiting for key invites too
That’s what I’ll do
lusty grotto
im looking at it and theres like 9 guild advertisements only
lol
and one dude that doesnt know his group listing is in the wrong diff
daring marlin
That was fucking hilarious
brain damaged augvoker suggested the PALADIN pull this
no grips
lusty grotto
lmaooooo
daring marlin
none of these people know how to play this game
lusty grotto
i guess he likes 3x pelters on fort
daring marlin
yeah
and running around like a fucking idiot because guess what moron YOU CAN'T EVEN GROUP THEM LOL
exactly what I was talking about earlier
sick sentinel
need some mighty good timing and dps for this
daring marlin
build group, one, maybe two idiots ruin it for the over 3/4 people.
daring marlin
need some mighty good timing and dps for this
Yogi it's not about timing for it
It's fort and three pelters.
and no grips
the paladin tank was room temp IQ
sick sentinel
im SURE YOU CAN make the pull, paladin probably saw it on TGP or sumthin
thinks its what we should be doin
daring marlin
nah man he just made the mistake of listening to the augvoker
"PULL THE REST AND I CAN LUST"
modern gazelle
i had a healer i was running with for a bit try to get me to pull like that
- That is a deadly fucking pack
modern gazelle
- How do you expect me to pull the pelters when people target them and make them jump away?
strong forum
i knocked her weapon away, and then stole the weapon so she cant pick it back up 
sick sentinel
tell your party that you consent to having only 5 dudes bash your face in at a time, not 7 or 8
jagged gust
i knocked her weapon away, and then stole the weapon so she cant pick it back up...
thats so big brained
sick sentinel
and so pulling agianst your wishes is a violation of your freedoms
jagged gust
wait doesn't picking u pa weapon cost an action point? Or is disarm a bonus action?
modern gazelle
im still waiting for the day i say "just cleave pelters" and people actually do it not making them jump backwards in 20 directions
strong forum
picking up items mid combat doesnt cost any points
jagged gust
oh maybe it's looting a body? Ive seen it come up somehow mid fight a few times
strong forum
also dropping items on the ground and then throwing them by moving them, not the throw action
doesnt cost any points either
lusty grotto
ok lets see how this goes, i got into a group
jagged gust
also dropping items on the ground and then throwing them by moving them, not the...
can you abuse this like in DoS2 where you could just put a million pounds into a chest then bonk a boss on their head for infinite damage?
south zealot
@crude notch
lusty grotto
1% wipe lol
chilly brook
what i don't like about league is it turns personal
Well yeah, you have to have a team to win, people can actively sabotage and throw harder than any other multiplayer game I’ve ever played
chilly brook
https://i.imgur.com/nKNtKwz.png
Game is goated
sick sentinel
part of why we didnt time one of VPs i did
we wiped, went again, and then this (2 pulls total)
strong forum
Game is goated
ive also just won a 1v20 cuz i dodged 99% of all attacks
21AC + Blindness aura 
sick sentinel
diablo 2 assassin is crazy mid game
i could probably se my self beating mightmare on it
proud tide
@lusty grotto just crafted 447 weapon ❤️
warm plinth
You can hover over it to see what it directs to
strong forum
Not on mobile
warm plinth
Not on mobile
Oh, if you press and hold on it, it shows the URL
lusty grotto
its a good video
lusty grotto
😡
warm plinth
Are you sure because it sounds like you died just now in Diablo
jagged gust
21AC + Blindness aura <a:peepodrive:810655714720088105>
What build did you decide on? I'm planning a monk/barb and using wis as a dump stat
uncut thunder
Oh shit I thought it was Chimp the whole time.
modern gazelle
eyy finally found some good peeps and ran some 22's that were easy af
if the afflicted get dispelled it feels like there isnt even affixes this week since basically it comes down to being able to survive the fort+raging mobs which aside from a few packs isnt too bad
warm plinth
Yeah, it's actually nuts how many people don't know raging doesn't make them do more damage anymore
mighty valley
raging is nothing until it's something
strong forum
What build did you decide on? I'm planning a monk/barb and using wis as a dump s...
Fighter, usually with 2h axe, I can attack up to 4 times per round and do bunch of shit so people I hit can't do anything
I'm basically playing a bully
modern gazelle
raging is nothing until it's something
yeah, on most packs its nothing, there is a couple where it is ROUGH just cause you cant interrupt with ccs so if you arent on top of kick rotation you are screwed