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lusty grotto
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tuesdays and thursdays and thats it

proper roost
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Dag

warm plinth
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Oh my lord that was a train wreck

proper roost
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No keying this week

warm plinth
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I'm the worst prot war in history I'm pretty sure

lusty grotto
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weekend chill keys

warm plinth
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The group killed a trash pack and the last like 1 mil HP of Raoul

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without me

daring marlin
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kanga is just chatting

proper roost
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Powerful

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what did you die to

warm plinth
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I charged into barrel smash, got knocked out of it, then got harpooned back into it keks

proper roost
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Very powerful

warm plinth
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I think I only pressed last stand like 4 times that key because I kept forgetting that was a thing

proper roost
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Damn

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Need some lessons from choco

toxic pewter
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just finally got anvil

warm plinth
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I only pressed anvil maybe 6 times

proper roost
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choco's 4th highest damage was the last stand bonus somehow

toxic pewter
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another warr traded me it

warm plinth
proper roost
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It was nuts

warm plinth
jagged pier
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U also didnt press SR for oiled blade a lot the first time it got eaten by a bolt then u didnt press it again sadge

proper roost
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I need to go back and delete these posts so he doesn't see me complimenting him

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because he already has a massive ego

warm plinth
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I thought I was mistaken and you couldn't reflect it, so I gave up

swift urchin
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AHAHAHAAH i'm vekttor, hate my rolls

jagged pier
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Trust in Sense trust in the sheet 🙏

proper roost
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it's just a 0.5s cast time or something isn't it

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My reflexes are way too slow for that shit

jagged pier
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Nah its like 2 seconds

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Or 1.5

proper roost
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Ok welp time dilation wokege

warm plinth
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Yeah it's long enough to reflect. I just used it too early and got a bolt

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from the squall dude

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the healer was not dispelling the debuff either which was scary af

proper roost
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this reminds me of how I thought I couldn't spell reflect lightning lash for the longest time because I just fucked it up like two keys in a row

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with boomer reflexes

warm plinth
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but hey we take that

proper roost
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and then I checked the logs and the last time I was 0.05 seconds late wokege

warm plinth
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not bad for first prot key of the season

lusty grotto
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i swapped to holy to give gorddy's pally rashok

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didnt drop

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forgot i swapped to holy

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ashkandur dropped

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roll need

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(offspec)

proper roost
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I keep telling you

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I have both a thursday and sunday raid you can come to

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Ashkandur is literally completely uncontested in the sunday run

warm plinth
proper roost
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I have a heroic one on my pally who doesn't even have a ret spec ever

lusty grotto
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i just rather get it done today

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but ty

proper roost
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LOL

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HOLY

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LMAO

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Oh my god the harpoon

warm plinth
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Dude I'm crying rn

proper roost
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wow that was amazing

warm plinth
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OH MY GOD THAT WAS AWFUL

lusty grotto
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ahahaha

strong forum
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ghash

warm plinth
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Uh oh

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Yes Nome sadge

lusty grotto
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lmaooooo

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ghash went like a pinball

proper roost
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at ~11 est

lusty grotto
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yeah kinda sucks for me since tues/thursday xiv raids :\

proper roost
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and that one has like 24 people in the raid so ash is guaranteed to drop

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more or less

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Yeah but at 11-11:30 est?

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No way

lusty grotto
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8pm to 11:30

proper roost
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i mean

proper roost
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Ok just saying the offer's open!!

toxic pewter
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anvil can proc eranog ring correct

proper roost
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i'm said it like 5 times!

warm plinth
lusty grotto
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ok well ill consider it next week

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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just gotta uhh do anvil boss and not win anvil

warm plinth
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Yes

lusty grotto
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i mean amalg

south zealot
lusty grotto
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on chip 😄

warm plinth
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I think I got my anvil from the dungeon weekly

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I mean I guess i must have, since I haven't raided on this toon

lusty grotto
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at least chipadin has baby normal mode anvil

proper roost
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Oh ooh is there a heroic raid box from weekly

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this week

warm plinth
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nah, normal box

proper roost
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Boo

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what is it, TW?

warm plinth
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Wait are you NA?

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We just had TW week last week

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This week is just arena skirmishes

proper roost
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yes

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Oh so that's not a raid box

warm plinth
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nope

sick sentinel
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bonus spark time

lusty grotto
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wait

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i have to actually go to oathstones to swap this trinket

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ok bag it is, too much work

daring marlin
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you're a foolish fool

lusty grotto
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lol

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it actually sims lower than what i have for ST so ill deal with it later

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even with full buffs

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i tried all of them too lmao

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stats/haste/crit/versa

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im guessing it resets on relog

warm plinth
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No

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I don't believe it does

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
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fuck this is what happens when i get a trinket 3/4th in the season jesus christ

sick sentinel
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fire mount

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paladin in my guild says "get the cloak its good for survivability im unsure what he means exactly

toxic pewter
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hes talking about the sporecloak

sick sentinel
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its not good for us is it

toxic pewter
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basically heals you if you drop below 30% health or something iirc

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generally none of us use it really

warm plinth
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No, it's not good for us

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Because why tf would you need that as a tank

sick sentinel
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so, i should do normal cloak? or a ring? i have a base 404 teleport ring

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ring comes with a socket, will be 447 regardless whatever i make

lusty grotto
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cloak has more stats

sick sentinel
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more importantly, cloak has str and armor, and is generally harder to get?

lusty grotto
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i forgot yogi ignores what we say

sick sentinel
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wdym, sorry, i just don't have the patience for the sims tbh

lusty grotto
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nobody said anything about sims lmao

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cloak has a bigger stat budget

proper roost
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i have no idea where this is from

crude notch
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Smh

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Oh I got yelled at for using pie charts this week by someone

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They used this quote on me

A table is nearly always better than a dumb pie chart; the
only worse design than a pie chart is several of them, for
then the viewer is asked to compare quantities located in
spatial disarray both within and between charts [...] Given
their low density and failure to order numbers along a
visual dimension, pie charts should never be used. -- Ed Tufte

toxic pewter
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yeah that was me

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sorry

crude notch
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apb it wasnt you atfu

toxic pewter
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ed and i are good friends

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ok sorry

sick sentinel
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thats what im supposed to be doing, i think

south zealot
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why are rhe specs alphabetical

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such a stupid ass fucking decision

dusky canopy
proper roost
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damn you just got ed tufte'd

dusky canopy
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Wo wait is it a spark week?

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I didn’t think it was

crude notch
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.5

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he took a .5 at some point from vault

dusky canopy
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Ahh yes thought so

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Oh shoot! That’s actually a good option now that I’m already full sockets

south zealot
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its ruined

crude notch
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oh no

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lol it was fixed in the pie chart though

sick sentinel
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no longer madge

dusky canopy
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Yogster stronk

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💪

sick sentinel
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that tenders for 5 bucks is huige asmongold malding bait cotent

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surprised hes not already online bitching about it

toxic pewter
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can you purchase it more than 1 time

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and just get a ton of tender

dusky canopy
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Imagine

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The mald

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LOL

sick sentinel
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME BLIZZARDW>????

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oh my god I CANT BELIEVE THIS

strong forum
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he said not tenders alone

sick sentinel
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i mean

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thats the dsfinition of jumping the shark

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put in a new system, less than a year later make it pw2 essentially

toxic pewter
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unless you cannot purchase it more than 1 time

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i am not sure if you can or cannot

sick sentinel
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then again a burger at mcdonalds costs 5 $

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so, wtf,

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is it really that big of a deal? im not so sure

toxic pewter
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gonna buy it and test if it can be bought more than once

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prob cant buy more than once

sick sentinel
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id rather have them put up just the costumes and no tenders

toxic pewter
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yeah cant seem to buy it again.. so seems to be once per account

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thats not bad

crude notch
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Ion: They won't be sold standalone but they'll be in bundles.

Blizzard puts it in bundles.

Community reaction: :Pikachuface:

toxic pewter
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oh i didnt know about that bundles must of missed that

sick sentinel
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transmog is the real end game and money maker for blizzard

sick sentinel
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dress up doll simulator

dusky canopy
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I dunno man

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People get all worked up over buyable stuff

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Who cares if it’s cosmetics

median tulip
dusky canopy
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I bet if you could buy max ilvl for example people would eat that up totally

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I do not want that

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But I bet it would sell just as well

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People willingly throw money away for convenience

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@crude notch Sneaky monk getting those invites

crude notch
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wtf is that comp

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monk literally just brought for touch

dusky canopy
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Yep LOL

mighty valley
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man i legit do not care if other people can spend money on convenience or cosmetics

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don't fully get how people get so worked up about this

sick sentinel
dusky canopy
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You want to whale a video game good for you I guess lol

sick sentinel
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i like how the name is simply holy paladin

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like, i know its a details thing, im just too dumb to know how to do it

dusky canopy
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It actually might be the real name because the i

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Í

sick sentinel
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is poop deck a real word about pirates, turning out to be fairly lame and boring

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and if so i need to know more

proper roost
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it's a real term about ships

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but it is very lame and boring yes

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Holee fucking shit

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I just got the god vault

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@daring marlin

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Are u ready for this shit

lavish sphinx
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Is there a Haste cap for Prot Warr or just stack that shit to inifinity?

proper roost
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@lusty grotto

nocturne spindle
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@lusty grotto

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oh damn

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beat me

warm plinth
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@lusty grotto damn I'm late too

lavish sphinx
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Awesome, thanks!

proper roost
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@lusty grotto

warm plinth
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I ended up w/ three 22 VPs last week

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:/

proper roost
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shame

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we needed VPs

warm plinth
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Apparently you really needed my priest too

proper roost
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the good thing is I still need vp on my pally

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Uh

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no i think we woulda bricked that one regardless to be honest with you

warm plinth
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LOL

proper roost
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guilford kinda got

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WIND FLURRIED

warm plinth
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riiiip

daring marlin
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0oppppppppppppppppppp0-pppppppppppp

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emmy says hello

proper roost
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hello cat

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👋

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guilford wanna see my vault

daring marlin
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I don't wanna play wow after losing 97 roll on call to chaos

proper roost
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ok

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man u guys smh

daring marlin
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WHAT DID YOU GET

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SPLINTER?

proper roost
daring marlin
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damn bro

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447 anvil huge

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grats king

proper roost
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it's actually not that good for fury 💀 but i'm gonna take it anyway

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Maybe I'll learn arms for Sarkareth

daring marlin
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fury yuck

proper roost
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prog echo as fury

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prog sark as arms

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makes huge sense

daring marlin
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the fuck is this

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it gave me 16k gold wat lol

proper roost
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wtf is that

daring marlin
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my thought exactly

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it came from loam satchel

proper roost
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oh seems like a rare drop from those

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1% dropchance from the valdrakken/loam boxes

daring marlin
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interdasting

sick sentinel
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i hate tyranical VP

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cuz inevitably stand in a thing that gives a stack, healer freaks out we wipe

proper roost
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This week is 7.5 sparks right

daring marlin
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yes dear

sick sentinel
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tough to fully avoid those

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8 for yogi, took half spark some time last month

daring marlin
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I feel like all races should have golden eye options if they're paladin

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That'd be sick.

sick sentinel
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silver blue white for paladins as well, priests

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purple for warlock

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caster only thing

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or 100% immunity

proper roost
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Why does the aberrus paladin tier look so dog

daring marlin
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normal def best

sick sentinel
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immunity in many shooter games is notated by glowing yellow eyeballs and careless expression on doom guys face

clever heart
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is 2x shadowflame still simming as bis emblishments even for m+ ? like even in aoe

sick sentinel
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for the player at least, and in pvp, it can also be haste buffs too movespeed shoot etc

proper roost
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What the god damn hell is yogi talking about

sick sentinel
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im sayin, why do the yellow eyes for paladin

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if its so half assd

proper roost
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RF is the only good appearance

daring marlin
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wrongo

proper roost
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actually heroic isn't that bad but you'd need different shoulders

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Also the aliasing on the gem on the chestpiece is... really bad?

daring marlin
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anvil is so cool

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mismatched mayhem

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dafuq

proper roost
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hello

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keys when

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!!!

daring marlin
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YOU SAID

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YOU COULDN'T TIL THURSDAY

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? ? ?

proper roost
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I SAID KEYS KEYS KEYS KEYS KEYS

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no I couldn't WITH NIM

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cuz he only gets on at like 7

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i'm literally!

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logged in rn!

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running in circles around valdrakken!

crude notch
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Loser

daring marlin
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ok let's do keys then

proper roost
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ok wait i gotta farm tusks

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very important

daring marlin
south zealot
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@proper roost

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when keys

proper roost
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Idk catch me literally spam whispering guilford keys

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And donowall

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??

south zealot
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my 3.2k io main score isnt good enough for these 15-16 cretins

proper roost
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Like?? Huh??

south zealot
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inv me

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Itzchocotime#1973

proper roost
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where is this guy

daring marlin
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ok

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thought you were doing tusks???

south zealot
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join the party noob

daring marlin
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oh right

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I got 447 helm on dk

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lame-o vault tbh

proper roost
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it takes like 2 min to do a tusk run now

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the d/c and reconnect scroll is the longest part

daring marlin
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is it supposed to always dc you?

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cuz that shit was weird

proper roost
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idk about supposed to

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but it does

south zealot
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why is there a holy priest in my group

proper roost
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he's gonna give me pi

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wait

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no he's gonna give the warlock pi

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:/

south zealot
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L

sick sentinel
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do warlocks even haste

limpid estuary
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On bracers would you take 441 w Leech or 447 without it?

daring marlin
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447

south zealot
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447

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i got pi

sick sentinel
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ilvl

south zealot
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holy moly

limpid estuary
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I thought so i just hate losing the leech lol

sick sentinel
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only time u dont take ilvl is when you dont get armor or main stat (str)

proper roost
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WHY IS HE GIVING YOU PI??

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WTF

daring marlin
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I need speed on everything

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because this is so tragic

south zealot
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on boss warlock did

daring marlin
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who needs reflect anyway

kind urchin
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I was in a halls run with disc and shadow priest, aug and warlock. I was a perma pi target for that key and it was glorious.

south zealot
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bruh

daring marlin
proper roost
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🤔

kind urchin
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For why though?

daring marlin
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ya got me lol

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We were all in the dungeon

proper roost
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actually no idea

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it was only a 17 UR too

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maybe he just realized he had to go poop

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Oh

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He's right outside again

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He just reformed entirely

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With a VDH

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Fascinating

kind urchin
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Probably because he realized that one out of 5 can't take care of one of the two incorps that pop up on every single round of them. Cause our cd won't let us do them all.

proper roost
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we literally have a havoc and a bdk

daring marlin
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eh, I'm on bdk and I'm getting one every time.

proper roost
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and there was prevoker boomkin

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i actually don't know

south zealot
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i hardly do that mechanic

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fuck em

daring marlin
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won't say that if they hit you with the debuff!

proper roost
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u literally did like 70% of them

daring marlin
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loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kind urchin
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I barely even do it on my pally when I play it... Because cast time while tanking.

south zealot
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yo mama

daring marlin
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tbh doing it on pally is mildly annoying

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helps with the giga haste prot pally rols with at least

proper roost
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Not for me

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I'm gonna own

daring marlin
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1.2s cast pretty quick

warm plinth
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Honestly biggest annoyance for me on pally is turn evil's 20 yard range

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wish it was 30

daring marlin
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yeah I don't take turn evil cuz of that

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I take rep instead

warm plinth
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but muh blind 😦

daring marlin
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yeah yeah yeah

proper roost
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whymst no one sign up to a 19

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🤔

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is it because this pally is 421 and 1792

daring marlin
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LMAO

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411 magus shooting his shot

kind urchin
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Who knows, maybe he could bang in that 19.

proper roost
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I need to napge after this

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i'm POOPED

daring marlin
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we're about to find out

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yeah cuz you don't sleep mf

kind urchin
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Oh shit.

proper roost
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i have raid in 3 hours

south zealot
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i forgot to meta

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go next

sick sentinel
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Enjoy friends

kind urchin
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I can usually tell how a key is gonna go by the first pull. If dps jumps the gun and causes chaos it's gonna be shit. If they don't and the first pull goes smooth it'll be easy.

toxic pewter
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wat

south zealot
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holy moly

daring marlin
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ROFL

toxic pewter
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wat

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wat so funny

proper roost
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this is uh

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a rough key

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LMAO

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holy shit

toxic pewter
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u guys need a pro in there or wat

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inv

daring marlin
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BEEP BEEP

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HONK

lost nymph
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Still pretty new to the prot world. is there anything we can take for incoperal this week, or are we at the mercy of the puglords?

warm plinth
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Mmm, technically yes. Realistically, leave it to the puglords

lost nymph
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say less

toxic pewter
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well, only things that work are storm bolt (single target stun), intimidating shout (have to have the incorp targeted and use it), and shattering throw (talent that you can pick up.. sort of annoying to get though)

warm plinth
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You can take shattering throw or menace but we can only do every other or every 4th one with those

lost nymph
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copy that. flame pugs>take responsibility

warm plinth
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Plus menace requires melee range

proper roost
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starting to think

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this dungeon might not time

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buds

daring marlin
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real question time

proper roost
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i think we drop

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i'm gonna go take a nap

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good night

daring marlin
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I don't think the pally has cleanse on their bar

proper roost
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(i already alt f4'd)

south zealot
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holy kangagriefing

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(lol)

proper roost
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i'll admit it

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mitch was NOT

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ready

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for the +19 UR

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😔

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also guilford kept self griefing

south zealot
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i griefed a couple times too sadge

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mitches top damage was fireblast can anyone fact check that

proper roost
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Honestly

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based

south zealot
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ok bedge time

proper roost
sick sentinel
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I'm staying awake till vault ez clap

torn gulch
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that's more than 3h away

sick sentinel
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Dedication for the socket

dusky canopy
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Oh snap that wcl dps overlay sounds pretty rad

torn gulch
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i need 3 tier upgrades to 447 and 3 sockets

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to finish my gear

sick sentinel
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Legit based song to tank to

daring marlin
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SLEEP WELL LADS

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I'm gonna hit the stair stepper because I love myself

proper roost
sick sentinel
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445 ilvl next week

daring marlin
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hell yeah yogi

daring marlin
sick sentinel
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Server shutdown time to play some ESO

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well, time to go farm some noob wq like rafts and races and whatever

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need a few for tenders points

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I kinda wish i bought a kebab

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Too late now

crude notch
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oops

sick sentinel
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Sub rogue kekw

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Completing a race should fill all riding bubbles.

sick sentinel
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is he even wrong

crude notch
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kekw blazehoof

sick sentinel
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hes not exactly wrong imo lol

daring marlin
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@proper roost I shoulda got my augvoker buddy sadga

toxic pewter
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how many keys u guys deplete

sick sentinel
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i deplete every key i do not time

south zealot
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windwalker chad or dogshit fotm players

dusky canopy
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both?

south zealot
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i meant which would u rather have

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sorry bad wording

dusky canopy
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oh definitely the WW chad

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chad also gives you more dam

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win win

south zealot
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i can never time 24 vortex sadge

crude notch
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Fun fact

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If title was based on .1% for spec, @lusty grotto would be the NA cutoff

dusky canopy
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YO

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nims yuge

south zealot
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prove it

daring marlin
sick sentinel
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i hate this quest

daring marlin
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choco pumper on smol dh tbh

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zoomer hands

south zealot
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eh i keep fucking up meta

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room to improve

warm plinth
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Pro gamers do what that one guy did in Shadowlands. Walk on treadmill while doing PvP carries

dusky canopy
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yo wasnt that bajheera doing that?

proper roost
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HE WAS GETTING PI

south zealot
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only once pusccc

proper roost
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HE GOT THE PI

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choco do u think echo first kill would be long enough that anvil would be good on it for fury

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over same ilvl vial

south zealot
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yes

proper roost
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Kinda leaning vial cuz of p2 and p3 cleave but im pretty sure killtime is like 7-8m right

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for a first kill

south zealot
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vial is pad noob

proper roost
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The adds gotta die

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😏

south zealot
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ao does the bosssss

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holy

proper roost
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choco just tryna stop me from parsing on god

south zealot
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kkill boss so u get akshandur

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noob

proper roost
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it's gonna be a /roll

daring marlin
proper roost
daring marlin
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He makes me want a standing desk and treadmill

south zealot
dusky canopy
south zealot
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me vs rigg

proper roost
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i will not win

dusky canopy
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"hittem' with a flex"

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gold

daring marlin
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ez 30k steps a day min lol

topaz raptor
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I think the ring is a huge upgarde for me but idk about this shield ?

cinder nova
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Do you have a 441 shield

dusky canopy
cinder nova
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If no, take shield

topaz raptor
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currently using 447 primal molten shield

cinder nova
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Ignor shield.

dusky canopy
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oh then do not do shield

topaz raptor
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ring it is im still ona champion 8/8

daring marlin
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@proper roost HOW WAS NAP

proper roost
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Hope that answers it.

daring marlin
crude notch
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aye?

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who takes a nap at like 9pm?

proper roost
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someone who raids in a PST guild

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but lives in EST

crude notch
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are you like old or something?

cinder nova
crude notch
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boomer kanga strikes

cinder nova
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PST w/an EST guild

proper roost
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jesus fuck anvil is so much better that it's literally unequipping OCE over it @south zealot

dusky canopy
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wait isnt pst like 2 hours behind?

proper roost
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on 7m pw

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3

dusky canopy
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damn so hes starting late as shit

south zealot
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common kanga L

proper roost
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yes lol

dusky canopy
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yeah but worth cause gains

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ez choice obvi

proper roost
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intriguing

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even on 2 target cleave, it prefers anvil over vial

dusky canopy
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fight length?

proper roost
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welp time to get used to anvil macro

crude notch
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Anvil haters are cringe

dusky canopy
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anvil owns

cinder nova
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Anvil is wonderful, but I made the mistake of telling my guild I had a 447 OCE in my vault.

dusky canopy
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oooff

cinder nova
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And it's 447

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my anvil

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it's an M+ trinket at this point QQ

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At least they let me go bronze

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So it's not a complete shitshow

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but damn, losing like 3500 DPS makes me ache

dusky canopy
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atleast they dont make you run obsidian or vers

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that would be yikes

pliant yarrow
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south zealot
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i run vers willingly

dusky canopy
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prob cause its least common?

cinder nova
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They put me in the windfussy group tho

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so

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Not all bad

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They know that PWarr gets a shitload of absolute value to raid DPS compared to other DPS.

proper roost
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vers is fine

daring marlin
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I want anvil on my dk so bad

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makes tanking dungeons more fun

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imo

south zealot
cinder nova
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Just keep pulling

south zealot
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only like 200 dps loss

cinder nova
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Anvilbrain feels like bannerbrain

dusky canopy
daring marlin
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Just a little salt in the oatmeal with maple and spice

dusky canopy
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mmmm yes SALT

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we like

proper roost
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Nice

south zealot
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majority of classes want hastse or masyery anyway

proper roost
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i think my raid randomly lost its obsidian buff

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idk who used to have it and i'm too lazy to track it down

south zealot
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lost dn

dusky canopy
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I'm running crit as arms for my guild it was within 100 when i simmed so it was nbd

daring marlin
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kanga it's time for a new kitty pfp

warm plinth
proper roost
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yessir

dusky canopy
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Ghash said it perfectly, one very minor note would be you said pve pve at the end 😛 either way* good job!

proper roost
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oh this one looks bad

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Go next

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ok i'm midraid placeholder for now

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summer strawberries are so good holy

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SHIT

dusky canopy
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we up big today

sweet lantern
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Is it me or Forgotten Experiments is just unfair as a Prot Warr? Even spamming ignore pain + rotating defensives I get destroyed. On my other tanks I never suffered

proper roost
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yep it's a bit harder

pliant yarrow
warm plinth
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Sure thing, we can always use more warrior content

cinder nova
lusty grotto
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why is nobody mentioning AA slows

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literally the first thing that needs to be suggested

cinder nova
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Let your cotank hang with Rionthus in P3, use Intervene to scoop a single stack and focus on clearing.

proper roost
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i'm hungy

cinder nova
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Because it's not gonna save them from playing bad.

proper roost
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i just had some fresh summer strawbs

cinder nova
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I watch PWarr flop at 3.5 minutes in so many logs, regardless of slows.

lusty grotto
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also we didnt ask what difficulty

cinder nova
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It helps, but it's not the issue.

lusty grotto
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we're assuming mythic

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but it might not even be

proper roost
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normal mode

lusty grotto
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also

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why does everyone forget SR DR

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20% free magic damage reduction to make you take less dmg on ticks

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
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every 30s

cinder nova
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No idea, but there's lots of magic overlaps where the impact of mechanics tends to be the spikes that kill you while everyone else is getting healed.

sick sentinel
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there, i got those smithing points you guys wanted so much

cinder nova
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I kinda just sent mine unless nothing was going on/no dots.

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But there are good spots for it where roar overlaps mid-stacks.

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But making sure you have no stacks in volatule or breath

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huge

sick sentinel
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almost completely done with engineering, only 59 points to max knowledge

lusty grotto
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i mean SR is up every 25s, there's no reason to hold it

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just press on cd

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swap to dstance on high stacks

cinder nova
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nAH

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Smoothrbain move

lusty grotto
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listen

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this is me looking at every single question regarding Exp

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as an observation

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did you notice how he said

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literally the first thing he said

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was "spamming ignore pain"

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out of everything in our kit

cinder nova
lusty grotto
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you have to assume, that hes not even using SR

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or demo

cinder nova
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Honestly, Exp is kinda the filter for warriors that know what they're doing versus just kinda slapping a keyboard semi-rhythmically

lusty grotto
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or that hes only sending SR on high stacks

cinder nova
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It's made me think a lot more consciously about movement, positioning, and what is happening to the whole raid group.

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I notice a lot of tanks move instinctively back, which ranges them from healers further.

lusty grotto
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so if the first thing he mentions is "spamming IP", you have to ask for logs, you have to suggest AA slows... going down to specifics might not be the best idea on when or how to optimize SR use

cinder nova
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And I see a lot of people not clearing before big raid movement.

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I dunno, mate, if they're not thinking about boss timers and damage overlap in Mythic already I feel like that's just gonna be the hardstuck boss.

lusty grotto
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yeah i would agree

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thats why we gotta start from the basics

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because he might not even be talking about mythic version

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we're assuming a lot of things

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remember he has done it on other tanks

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idk how common is to swap tank classes on mythic difficulty, that just makes me doubt

proper roost
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very

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but

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we're on like week 13...

lusty grotto
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yeah but not on prog

proper roost
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i mean

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no

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that's literally when u do it lmao

lusty grotto
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i guess

proper roost
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there were so many people in here

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who literally went on 1 diff tank for zskarn

lusty grotto
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but if he has done it on multiple tanks, then hes not on prog

proper roost
#

he's probably talking about heroic

lusty grotto
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right

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thats my point

proper roost
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u guys are overthinking it

lusty grotto
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and if hes on heroic, aa slows dont matter, tell the other tank to taunt at 7 and clear fast because its a snoozefest

proper roost
#

holy moly

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my warrior has 950 leech 571 avoidance

cinder nova
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...people struggle on N/H Exp? seramore

proper roost
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i'm so powerful

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ok just gained even more avoidance

daring marlin
sick sentinel
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sry, its not 59, its 69 engi points i need for max

proper roost
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I

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AM

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UNKILLAAAABLEEEEE

sick sentinel
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i had to make sure to tell you guys

proper roost
#

@south zealot actual question

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should i rage flask for echo

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it is a 500 dps increase

south zealot
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yes

proper roost
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i pussed out yesterday but then i realized

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I don't get hearts anyway

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So how would I die

sick sentinel
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i just normally use health potions for when i get low hp and thats pretty much it

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i almost never bother with str potions or some kind of attack one

sweet lantern
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Sorry, had a tough day at work, I couldn't read the chat earlier.

Yes, I was comparing in heroic vs Monk and Pala.

I am in defensive stance and rotate from 4 stacks Demo Shout, then SR, then Shield Wall. But I don't have shield wall for all of them

sick sentinel
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odd time used to do engineer bombs, but they are way less useful in combat these days

crude notch
#

who wants dumb numbers

sick sentinel
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the bfa bombs were over powered compared to what we have today

lusty grotto
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your tank should be taunting or you should both be clearing at 5 to 7 stacks

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only swap to defensive if more than 5 stacks

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pop SR for the 20% dr at 5+ stacks

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SR down? demo boss

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both down? wall

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clear stacks are super healable in heroic, your healers shouldn't have a problem

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hanging at more than 7 stacks for an extended period of time? d stance, continue using SR/Demo/Wall

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you should NOT be spamming IP for no reason

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that damage is more than healable, and stack clears and taunts done correctly should make it not seem like youre made of paper

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do you have logs?

crude notch
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i read legs, i think it's time for bed

odd nimbus
#

how good is 447 screaming black dragonscale?

lusty grotto
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sim

warm plinth
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tl;dr it's fine but nothing special

lusty grotto
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notice how the VDH took a shitload more damage than i did wrong log

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and he was taunting at 10

sick sentinel
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sometimes not always turning on defennsive xtance liks mostly in healer is bad or i am standing in or about to stand in a bunch of bad

lusty grotto
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also that VDH was decked

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i didnt dstance, i walled only once wrong log

sick sentinel
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i dont if healer is better player

lusty grotto
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i SR'd 2 times?

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in hindsight i could have SRd a lot more but fuck it i was there for a reclear and parsing kind of

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oh whoops

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i linked rashok

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lmaooo

sick sentinel
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not all trsh mobs list all abilities on bigwigs where i can asign the banana peel sfx to reflectable spells easier, i uaed to do that in bfa worked okay

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am too dumb to make tje missing link reflectable spells as weak auras

lusty grotto
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yogi nobody is talking about reflectable spells

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you cannot reflect anything in Exp

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Spell Reflection gives you 20% magic damage reduction

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thats why its usable in Exp

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it lowers dot ticks

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for the whole 5 seconds it lasts

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anyway 2 walls, 2 SRs, 5 demos

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one dance to dstance

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and back

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i didnt go down below 50%

odd nimbus
lusty grotto
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no this is the pinned ST build

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because its a raid

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check pins

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also you never drop focused vigor

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ah shit i thought i had made the swap from ED to instigate

warm plinth
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:think:

lusty grotto
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thanks for mentioning it i gotta fix my talents

warm plinth
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Waow

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What a nub

lusty grotto
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hmm

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my talents are whack

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the fuck happened

warm plinth
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you broke it

odd nimbus
#

in pins its the other way around

warm plinth
#

Pay no mind to his talents; he's big noob

odd nimbus
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we got him 😄

lusty grotto
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OH

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hold up now i gotta log in fuck

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i wanted to go to bed

odd nimbus
#

i really cant decide between an upgrade to my chest from 441 to 447 or the black dragon scale 447.
on one hand i want that trinket alooot kinda like it on the other hand it seems like the chest upgrade is better

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😦

lusty grotto
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wait why the fuck am i going EA

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nooo now i gotta check all my other load outs

odd nimbus
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when do we consider replacing beacon 441 with a 447 trinket?only sim or there is an argument to be made about more stats?like primary stat instead of mastery etc..

lusty grotto
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that last one is no argument

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it doesnt exist

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you replace a 441 beacon with a 447 beacon

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good luck 🙂

odd nimbus
#

i hate that

lusty grotto
#

i dont, i love beacon

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everybody loves 1.2 mil crits 😄

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or more on aoe of course

odd nimbus
#

i really want to have choice its been two seasons ive been force to use one trinket all the time

lusty grotto
#

i mean its been like that for a while

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at least SL S4 i was wearing the same dinar trinkets so

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🤷

odd nimbus
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but black dragonscale give you wings

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they are cool

lusty grotto
#

sure

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its a decent trinket, but its not on use

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so why would you replace beacon with it

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you'd have to sim against mark of darg or anvil

odd nimbus
#

im a warrior im not smart i zugzug my sword and shield i dont know about magic and gateways

lusty grotto
#

the on use on Black dragonscale only works if youre like 10 yards up in the air

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it doesnt work on leap

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it kind of works on VP on the last jump to last boss

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thats about it lol

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maybe in nelth

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so you never use it

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so its effectively a passive trinket

odd nimbus
#

yeah you are right

lusty grotto
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btw

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if your leap is down and you wanna land without dmg, the on use works the same way

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you take no dmg when using it

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so like blink, leap/charge/intervene or disengage for big falls lol

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not that it'll happen but just something interesting about it

odd nimbus
#

its really hard for me not to take scale but i guess chest upgrade is better

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thanks mate

lusty grotto
#

yeah i wouldnt do 10 stacks with your healers lol

proper roost
#

nim wanna do 2 am keys

crude notch
lusty grotto
crude notch
proper roost
#

😄

autumn hinge
#

is there a haste cap for prot?

proper roost
#

@lusty grotto

opaque oriole
#

(356 Avoidance) ilvl 441 head vs (socketed) ilvl 437 head? Is avoidance worth it as a tank?

onyx vessel
#

Haste cap 255%

warm plinth
#

That being said, head is a pretty high stat budget item, so I would sim it. The str gain might outweigh it (assuming you already have a primary stat gem)

sick sentinel
proper roost
#

god i fucking hate

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low io tanks

round pendant
#

Well that's not very nice

ionic fern
proper roost
#

the trashcan who made a FH16 take 28 minutes because he waited for every spiteful shade to despawn before pulling the next pack

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that's low

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😡

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i'm never not tanking weekly keys again these people are enraging

warm plinth
#

@ionic fern hi ily

ionic fern
warm plinth
#

Mwahi did you see the clip of my amazing gameplay in my first prot key of the season

round pendant
#

it's fucking annoying

warm plinth
round pendant
#

why does your game look so weird

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I've done the exact same thing tho lmfao

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brain says zug zug

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you zug zug

jagged pier
#

u should in essence pull them during the smash

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so tht doesnt happen

round pendant
#

hm since I already have 447 two handed sword, 1h sword and shield, what should I open my singular m+ 447 slot vault as?

sick sentinel
#

Arms

round pendant
#

I need to do more than 1 key a week lmao

sick sentinel
#

Unless you want prot trink

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But just go arms

round pendant
#

You don't get raid trinkets from m+ vault right?

sick sentinel
#

no

round pendant
#

so it literally doesn't even matter what I open as right

jagged pier
#

not really

sick sentinel
#

Unless you want poop 1h

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Or 447 forgestorm

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Poss

round pendant
#

I have 447 forgestorm

sick sentinel
#

Then just open it as arms imo

round pendant
#

and 447 crafted

#

tru, if I get another 447 2h I can learn fury

#

pog

sick sentinel
#

exactly

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I got 447 hands

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And im depressed

round pendant
#

447 tier helm sadge

#

I say sadge but that's a 10 ilvl upgrade nvm

sick sentinel
#

My druid is gonna be more geared than warrior

#

End of this week KEKW

#

But because i crafted better

round pendant
#

druid is fun

sick sentinel
#

Just did a 19 BH and flt so good

round pendant
#

gearing up is a chore tho

#

I get my chars to like 420 then go back to my warrior

sick sentinel
#

Im 433 not getting into 20s 😦

#

Like i can easily do it

#

This week is piss easy

round pendant
#

host your own key

sick sentinel
#

I got UNDR and that place depresses me

#

18

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I might be able to get 3.1k rio on warrior this week tbf

#

As prot

#

Ez key

round pendant
#

2nd boss of underrot is just a key killer in my experience

#

idk why people can't just SQUISH THE THINGS

sick sentinel
#

Yup and 18s attract colourful people

#

Bruh i got insta declined from a 20 without them reading my note by someone with 1.9k io

round pendant
#

That's just how it go

#

Trust me I've spent enough time raging about that shit

#

now I don't do keys that aren't my own

#

or a friends

proper roost
#

why would i read ur note

hollow scroll
#

Why would I read.

#

^ftfy

lavish sphinx
#

So this week's affixes are pretty shit hey

sick sentinel
#

Peoples brains ILVL > IO > TIMED

#

Nope

#

Ez week

lavish sphinx
#

lol

proper roost
#

Very easy week

round pendant
#

Honestly the affix changes were great

#

There's no weeks where I feel like "yep, I'll pass."

#

bolstering kinda sucks but it's so much better than it used to be

ionic fern
#

What are the affixes this week?

lavish sphinx
#

Tyran, Incorporeal and Spiteful

ionic fern
#

So.

#

It's a free week for tanks.

#

Nice.

lavish sphinx
#

How are you guys managing it? I just bricked a BH 18

round pendant
#

How did you brick it

#

what happened

ionic fern
#

Wdym how we manage it?

#

There are literally 0 affixes here that affect us.

#

You just gotta hope your healer DPS'ers deal with Incorporeal and you're golden.

lavish sphinx
#

Kite the spiteful's and get incorporeal's early right?

ionic fern
#

Spitefuls don't even go on us.

round pendant
#

ignore them both

ionic fern
#

UNless DPS'ers die.

#

They are free pad for Seismic.

lavish sphinx
#

Yeah, the DPS was dying

gusty ridge
#

just vortex when the mobs are dying for spitef.. oh damn right, we have no utility

round pendant
#

Sounds like it wasn't YOU who bricked the key

gusty ridge
#

we got a lot of stuns

ionic fern
#

Jeah, and a fear.

#

And intervene.

sick sentinel
#

I like to abom limb on dk when mobs die and kill my team

gusty ridge
#

fear is kinda meh on 1,5 mins ^^

#

but yeah

ionic fern
#

Idk.

#

I freaking love it.

#

It's amazing.

gusty ridge
#

spellreflect is king

round pendant
#

fear is pog

sick sentinel
#

sHoCkWaVe

ionic fern
round pendant
#

I'll storm bolt the ghosts if someone's about to die to it

ionic fern
#

Just Shockwave and hope they don't mong.

round pendant
#

shockwave and run off so my team follows otherwise

#

if they don't folllow I ragey

#

"why the fuck are you fighting the ghosts"

sick sentinel
#

Got in 20 vp as 433 ilvl druid with 1.9k io xan

#

LESGOOOO

round pendant
#

gz

lavish sphinx
#

lol

sick sentinel
#

People can read i guess

torn gulch
#

shockwave+fear gives you a lot of control in aoe pulls

#

you can legit stop entire packs if you know what you're doing

#

an example being the cloudburst pack before first dragon in VP you can effectively stop every cloudburst with your own kit

#

and there are other examples

warm plinth
round pendant
#

the colours seem off

warm plinth
round pendant
#

oh

warm plinth
#

My eyes are broken

ionic fern
#

Eh? I diddn't even see a difference.