protection

[plush tendon]

I need more tendies!

[toxic pewter]

yah i have like 3000ish saved up

sword and shield seem kinda cool

[plush tendon]

im not sure where im at

but I need the double sword and sheild

[toxic pewter]

the red and even the green one

ya

[plush tendon]

the stormwind shield

[toxic pewter]

may do both..

[plush tendon]

and the capes are good

uggg

[toxic pewter]

yah that sw one def nicer than the horde buckler

[plush tendon]

and the helms

maaaaan

[proper roost]

yeah just binged all 3 of his videos

and now he won't upload again forever (like all the other terrarium/aquarium/etc channels)

funny thing is all 3 videos have a fairly different editing style so maybe the reason they look professionally edited is because he had them done up

[strong forum]

Looks like European serpadesign in the making

[toxic pewter]

wat is the Ethereal Transmogrifier toy

is that a transmog anywhere toy you can summon?

oh wait.. is that the toy that turns you into a random boss or whatever

[strong forum]

Yea

[toxic pewter]

wtf i paid 10 dollars for that

going to email blizzard now for a refund

now i know how all those tcg people feel

[proper roost]

when i saw that in the trader shop i 100% knew

i was gonna buy that

the only issue is there's like 5 mounts in this month's shop too and i want all of those as well just for the collection

cannot afford everything and freeze shit

[toxic pewter]

apparently according to some random wowhead comment it is not the ethereal guy that turns you into a boss

"It's a portable transmog changer for when you're in an instance and cannot mount up the transmog mount."

ill prob buy that thats a sweet cooldown

10 min cd and lasts 10 min

wow

thats legit if it is the case

[strong forum]

Neat

[proper roost]

oh

[wild sandal]

is there a macro for charge and interven same keybind, depending on what i am targeting?

[proper roost]

that's garbage lol

there's already an engineering item you can use that's boe and really cheap (like 50g or something) that you can plop down inside instances to transmog

[toxic pewter]

yeah disposable rearanger

still gonna get the toy

thats a solid toy

it is far from garbage tbh

that disposable one only lasts 2 min

and it has some annoying side effect crap

the toy, once again, has a 10 minute cooldown. that is insane, it has 100% uptime

LOL

nothin worse than making an outfit on the disposable one and it disapears right before you click apply

[proper roost]

what's the side effects? I haven't had to use the in instance transmog thing yet

i mean i have transmog mount for when i need to make my own transmogs, idk, i don't think it matters

It's a good toy for the cd/duration

blizz hates making short duration toys for w/e reason

[hazy bronze]

Insta buy

[toxic pewter]

it can just straight up not work iirc

"Disclaimer: Due to the functionality of this product, slight headaches, nausea and race and/or gender changes have been known to occur. Use with caution."

[proper roost]

hmm

are you saying that off experience of having used it

[toxic pewter]

yah i have used it

and it happened to me before

[proper roost]

because engineering flavor text is bullshit half the time

Does it still charge you

[toxic pewter]

i own the recipe on one of my characters and used to make them a lot

yah the transmog takes effect iirc

[proper roost]

what happens if you just like... re transmog lol

[toxic pewter]

yeah same here

[jagged pier]

how much are u guys tmogging?

like every pull?

[proper roost]

unironically

[toxic pewter]

all the time now

[proper roost]

about once an hour during raid

[jagged pier]

[proper roost]

sometimes more

[toxic pewter]

lol

[proper roost]

transmog is the endgame

and I have an absurd list

[toxic pewter]

do you use better wardrobe

[proper roost]

no should i

[toxic pewter]

i find it to be pretty solid addon could be worth checking out if u want

just expands your capabilities for the wardrobe

and lets you save more outfits

[proper roost]

at least on my warrior and paladin I transmog a lot, on everything else w/e because

shaman only exists to do keys

it has one (1) workable transmog and that's it

i didn't spend like 50k on glorious legs during mop to not transmog to them all the time

[toxic pewter]

just looked up those legs i want those how get

are they still in the game

[proper roost]

Think they're just like a random green drop from certain level mobs. Seems like they're really cheap nowadays

Yeah

should just be on your server AH

[toxic pewter]

ok def gonna pick some up

need those on my vulpera asap

[proper roost]

they used to be way harder to farm in certain level squishes

but it seems like now that you can level lock and farm specific ilvl gear very easily, it's not too bad

[toxic pewter]

apparently lofty breastplate goes well with them

[proper roost]

all the old platekini stuff is the same

[toxic pewter]

ok

[proper roost]

tyrants, glorious legs,

etc

[toxic pewter]

i need to collect all that

[proper roost]

saltstone i think the gray/black/white one

[toxic pewter]

i see

[prisma crane]

i've had my same mog more or less since Legion, i've updated about 4 pieces to it since DF launch, idk how ppl change that often lol

[jagged pier]

i dunno ive completed tmog for myself now i got tier 3 and tusks on wednesday

never farming stuff again

[prisma crane]

nice

[proper roost]

grats

i am still a tusks farmer 😔

granted did not start trying again since the 10.1.5 change

[jagged pier]

not grats ive been famring SoO on and off on 9 chars for years

[toxic pewter]

dang u got tier 3.. im jealous 😦.. grats

[sick sentinel]

Literal perfect touch grass day

[prisma crane]

im glad i dont care about tusks

[sick sentinel]

Look how nice it is today

[prisma crane]

give it about a year or 2 and we'll see them in the trading post lol

[proper roost]

yogi i'm not sure if taking a picture of a gray parking lot is the best way to illustrate touch grass

but yeah looks nice

[sick sentinel]

Should be duck wow go fishing lol

[proper roost]

hell yeah yogi go fishing

it's a great day for fishing

it's only 81 F where i'm at right now

Very nice day

[brazen yarrow]

this shit too warm

move to arctic circle i will

[waxen vale]

damn another 4 hour reset huh

i wonder what stunning changes they could be up to

[crude notch]

"another" implies last week's was actually 4 hours when it wasn't even near that

[proper roost]

@daring marlin rate this transmog, I have to p2w $10 for it

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#fa8zM0zb89c8Mm8xT8Mc8yX8MV8x38Mo8tR8Ma8tZ8sX8z3B8Mq8gz8zYE8dLC8ac8z5W8Mk8ti8s18z4k8oe8tD8Ms8tP8fI8M3r8dN8MgE8aY8MR77q3vi808zMOZ8085xA808Klh87czMO187c2AA8MEz8zMSP80850j8082AB8MEz8zcYt8MUb808zcYt8MUb808zMSO8MOr87Mz

gorehowl not important mostly the legs and tabard combo that makes it chun li thighs

[toxic pewter]

wat costs $10

[jagged pier]

the legs

[toxic pewter]

i see

[proper roost]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

is that leg type rare or something

i actually own that set apparently

[proper roost]

yeah platekinis all have this weird kneecap armor bullshit

[toxic pewter]

i see

[proper roost]

those legs look fairly different

[toxic pewter]

they do look good

[proper roost]

but i'm not at home, would have to play around and see if platekini can substitute there so I don't have to pay bobby $10

[chilly brook]

I know you didn’t ask me but it looks good but the red on the legs really stands out since there’s not really any on the rest

[proper roost]

wait what red

Like the trim?

Oh wait like the sides of the knees

[chilly brook]

Yes the crimson

[proper roost]

Ok those are kinda hard to see between the boots and the weapons tbf

[chilly brook]

But I see it more on the hips

But that’s me I’m picky

[south zealot]

do u see dn

holy

[proper roost]

Uhh ehhh

Really minor tbh

Who's gonna be looking at the red bits when there's massive thigh

that's the important thing

well, massive relatively. it is still belf

[chilly brook]

Up to you at the end of the day

[proper roost]

i don't have half this gear anyway cuz it's SL raid gear

nathria or something

need to go to some transmog run

[toxic pewter]

some red on the cloak too but hair covering it tbf

[chilly brook]

I raided like all of nathria

And have almost none of that set

[brazen yarrow]

male orc

male orc hurricane thunder and lightning thighs

[proper roost]

idk if it's even possible to kill a mythic nathria boss right now without like, at least half a raid group

[chilly brook]

Idk

[brazen yarrow]

i think u can do them up until inerva darkvein or what shes called

but its gonna take time eitherway

[proper roost]

well good thing is the boots are the thing I want the most

and they're just off the first boss

so maybe doable

that boot model is bangin

[brazen yarrow]

might need to still get a second dude

[chilly brook]

I mean the only bosses that would be difficult as is without others would be sun king/slg/council

[proper roost]

AND the gloves are boe wtf

[brazen yarrow]

i mean next expac u can basically 1 shit them anyway right

[chilly brook]

Idk how much damage the bosses are doing though

[proper roost]

i'm not gonna wait for next xpac to wear this transmog

i demand instant gratification from my dress up doll minigame

[chilly brook]

[dusky canopy]

I’ve 5 manned Mythic Nyalotha in SL s4

I’m sure it’s easier now?

Oh I didn’t read.. “nathria”

[proper roost]

it looks like I mostly just need to farm first boss which might be soloable on mythic

or at least duoable with a healer

and maybe farm some trash for the boe or just buy it idk

why is the nathria boe still 200k 😡

[chilly brook]

Low key miss the goblin

[dusky canopy]

Goblin kinda goated ngl

But that having to swim in a random spot mid dungeon is thee worst with the small model toons lul

Would there even be any of that this season? I can’t think of a spot

[chilly brook]

Not that I can think of

But ye it was kinda dumb in SL with DOS

[dusky canopy]

I was Vulpera for a few weeks in SL and then I got cheeks clapped in DOS cause of swim

And then I changed lmao

[toxic pewter]

havnt really encountered any short race issues this season

[proper roost]

there are los issues

on the halls of infusion stairs

(unironic, run into this as a dwarf)

[toxic pewter]

havent really noticed that

[sick sentinel]

im tempted to open vault as prot for 447 heart of thunder

[dusky canopy]

Yeah I guess I haven’t noticed because I’m always in melee

[dusky canopy]

You could, might get lucky

But also might get total garbanzo

[toxic pewter]

which stairs are you mentioning anyway

[proper roost]

Like the initial ring

Ramps up and down

[toxic pewter]

ohh.. interesting

[proper roost]

Yeah mostly only bad as a healer

Not dps caster or melee obviously

[toxic pewter]

never realized.. will keep in mind though

[proper roost]

It's not really that bad but sometimes dps casters will be at like the bottom of the little dips

And then the tank is at the top

[toxic pewter]

can it prevent me from getting healed by a healer if i am at top of stairs and healer at bottom

[dusky canopy]

Yeah it’s good to note might help a random pug out sometime

[proper roost]

And if you stand on the lip of the ramps then the visuals of the geomancer stomps don't show up too good

Sometimes

tbf it might not just be a height thing it might just be in general to all healers. I just realized I do this by default on my pally too

[crude notch]

Blacksmith boy in nelth has height problems people don't think about as well

[proper roost]

OH GOD

YEAH

THAT ONE IS THE WORST

[south zealot]

why arent servers up

fix it

[proper roost]

holy fuck i have actually died so many times on my shaman because of that stupid fucking boss

and me having to reach people at the top

but also having no room

[toxic pewter]

wouldnt it make sense to just standardize all the races height... (internally/under the hood, i mean) is this just bad idea to do this or what

I guess would mess up certain animations or something?

[crude notch]

It's so obnoxious and I didn't find out until I started playing on my priest some.

[sick sentinel]

time for more kung-flu, loggin on me d2 assasin

[proper roost]

the worst part is that one is 100% a height thing

i have had zero issues on that boss ever on my human pally

only dwarf shaman

cannot fucking SEE high enough to chain heal people

[sick sentinel]

i guess you had short comings as a healer then

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/drums-troll-badumtss-badaboom-snare-gif-7191319

[sick sentinel]

assasin best alt in the game due to these

[south zealot]

servers up

[sick sentinel]

burst of speed is incredible

[toxic pewter]

thx

[crude notch]

OMG what a complete and utter surprise it didn't take 4 hours. Who could've possibly seen this coming!!!

[toxic pewter]

y they keep estimating 4 hour

seems like some intern gunning for a promotion..

[lusty grotto]

extending maintenance isn't "gunning for a promotion"

[toxic pewter]

wat u mean

[sick sentinel]

hope for the best prepare for the worst is i think why 4 hours

but only 1

gives them "fuck up" space

they always intend to have it done in an hour if its not a patch, but they are still preparing for dumbshit to happen and jim bob to lose his mount that he earned

[south zealot]

yogi you are a jim bob

[lusty grotto]

you have the right of it Yogi

[dusky canopy]

Good movie

[sick sentinel]

shoulda never swapped horde

[dusky canopy]

Yogi bro

Go back

Dwarf owns

[sick sentinel]

i was human, not because asmongold, but because, remove stun in specific, but racial abilitites in general

to me, stun is, you might as well be dead or afk

[dusky canopy]

I’m actually thinking about doing the opposite I dig the dwarf racial but kinda want to be a troll again and I miss the horde city’s/portals

[sick sentinel]

its so much better than it sounds remove stu n

[toxic pewter]

u guys think 1600 tender for both sword and shield sets worth it

[cerulean tusk]

So, it was because of Asmongold. Got ya

[sick sentinel]

shields is, i collect all of them

[sick sentinel]

originally created in cata, so, nope lol

[cerulean tusk]

Then why mention Asmongold, if he was not the reason?

[sick sentinel]

cuz human male warrior on warcraft = asmongold fan club

these days

[cerulean tusk]

Stop denying the truth in your heart, Yogi. It was because of Asmongold.

We all know it

you know it

accept it

[round pendant]

those fireplume stockings are pog

[cerulean tusk]

You are a "it's your boy, Asmongold" enjoyer

[sick sentinel]

honestly, the reason i started to play warrior start of BFA was cuz i remembered it from cata and mists being fun

[cerulean tusk]

Bad expansion to get restarted, but at least it wasnt Shadowlands

[sick sentinel]

never looked back since day 1 of returning to BFA

[cerulean tusk]

well, actually lucky - you missed Legion, so BFA might have been good

[sick sentinel]

BFA was amzing i dunno what your on about lol

like, i had skipped wod and legion, so some of the new city mechanics boat missions and whatever were fresh and new to me

[round pendant]

cat

[cerulean tusk]

Hoy, more kitty pics

Ty

[sick sentinel]

i thought bfa was amazing im sorry lol

[cerulean tusk]

Hey - we enjoy what we enjoy

You just didn't play legion, that had some insane power - just to be slapped back into worse class design in BFA... only to slowly build back up

you only had the buildup

So makes sense

[sick sentinel]

there was ALOT that went into i enjoyed bfa

asmongold streams daily, and i had voice friends to run dungeons with, felt compelled to do some level of raiding

[cerulean tusk]

[proper roost]

Yogi an asmongold stan

Jesus

So disappointed tbh

[dusky canopy]

Don’t worry yogi he’s disappointed by a lot of things

[sick sentinel]

even the dk tells me to open as dps lol

[sick sentinel]

well, used to be, i'm not even going to pretend like that statement wasn't at some point true

[dusky canopy]

DK speak truth

[sick sentinel]

pretty sure thats the pick i want

[proper roost]

Looks p straightforward

[sick sentinel]

i'm a beast429 ez

Bear is fun

I need to get prot logs

[dusky canopy]

429 bear doing Prot numbers

ION FIX GAME!

[violet flume]

indestructible socketed belt in vault nice

[sick sentinel]

all i want is to be 444

[violet flume]

wouldve prefered another tiertiary but i shouldnt complain

just upgrade one of your new items to 447

[sick sentinel]

such bullcrap

have to go to niffen crap and get a spark and craft something just to hit 444

I am 429 keeping up with 444 beart

How?

[violet flume]

beart?

[sick sentinel]

Bear

[violet flume]

you play better than him and he plays worse

[sick sentinel]

[toxic pewter]

nice thats not a bad trinket afaik

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmFw3cBetow

grandfather clocks always were a bit spoopy to me

ST 5 when

[sick sentinel]

[lusty grotto]

those are some shitty prot warrior numbers

[round pendant]

but I AM a nightborne

[lusty grotto]

stuck on loading screen

[sick sentinel]

log out for a few minutes to touch grass or cofee or whatever

[lusty grotto]

ty yogi

[sick sentinel]

thats what i had to do

[lusty grotto]

thats good advice

[waxen vale]

i figurd it was the old give room for fookups

but i can't shedule around that

decided to go into manhattan

get some sht done

[sick sentinel]

if you guys are on NA a52 is pretty bad for lag atm

still connectable

[proper roost]

Do not tilt over your vault nim

I have cursed them to be bad on purpose

As a joke

[lusty grotto]

i will tilt

[sick sentinel]

Bear op

Close to DK at 444

[toxic pewter]

wat boss is that

[lusty grotto]

still lower than my numbers lol

[sick sentinel]

Kazzara

99 parse for a bdk is 79k dps💀

[lusty grotto]

i mean not a lot of logs either so

[sick sentinel]

The prot parse of mine was on rashok and i think we went 3 tanks

[wide dragon]

we opening as prot or something else?

[sick sentinel]

Cause random pug and tank couldnt taunt so i went tank

Triple tanking bis

[lusty grotto]

fury for 1handers / mark of darg / grapnel

@proper roost well i got an OCE

vault opening depends on your shield's ilvl basically

[proper roost]

Ok now ur not allowed to be salty about vaults

Never again

[lusty grotto]

still no anvil though

[proper roost]

He did it

right away

not even 2 seconds since he got a good vault item smh

[lusty grotto]

lets see chipadin

[sick sentinel]

I pray for 447 weapon tomorrow if i dont get one imma scream

[wide dragon]

initial thought is 441 cloak, but i welcome thoughts

[lusty grotto]

lmao chipadin got fucked

[proper roost]

You know what I'm gonna do when I open my vault nim

I'm gonna see 6 bad slots

take a spark half

and be happy

because i can take a spark half

🙂

Like Bruce Lee said

your vault will suck be like water

[sick sentinel]

Always check your pockets for change before throwing them in the washing machine?

[lusty grotto]

no

[sick sentinel]

Thank god this is PTR

[lusty grotto]

cause i dont use change

cards or android pay ty very much

[sick sentinel]

I don't trust banks

[lusty grotto]

lmao okay

[proper roost]

Smh

So many boomers

in this spec

[sick sentinel]

Wait you can use whirlwind in prot spec

I am 25 not a boomer

I am a last species of millenial

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrfhsxxmdE

[wide dragon]

ok.....boomer

[sick sentinel]

you laugh but one day it will happen to you

[lusty grotto]

boomer mentality so boomer

[sick sentinel]

I honestly wish i could go back to primary school and relive my life and make different choices

Like play MoP

WoD

Legion and BFA

[lusty grotto]

you can with Classic World of Warcraft (TM)

[wide dragon]

id make the same choices but with more pizzazz

[sick sentinel]

Ok even PTR vault sucks

This game hates me

[uneven mason]

[fossil cloud]

They say it does enough damage?

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJ6N6xSECQ

heres hoping to a rotten and hosetown vault to all of ya'lll

bunch of shitty rings and 2h

https://youtu.be/UfnAOcBirAs

[proper roost]

Jfc

Boomers

[toxic pewter]

just won my first trial of style

with my cowboy outfit

[proper roost]

Link cowboy outfit

[toxic pewter]

ok

uhh what best way to link it

build it in wowhead?

[sick sentinel]

How you get 10 gallon hat

[toxic pewter]

loamm niffen trade boulders for it

to that one guy that wants boulders

i forget his name

[proper roost]

yeah idk

uh

no, you should be able to link dressing room ingame

and that'll have all the item names

Won't have a super close up of the character but it'll have all the transmog item names

[sick sentinel]

honestly, i cant fault it

[torpid fiber]

do we still use mythic eranog ring with frostfire belt?

[daring marlin]

socket on warrior

sick

[lusty grotto]

socket on chipadin

[sick sentinel]

i am so happy my hosetown magic worked on you

[proper roost]

Wtf this is like a default set

[toxic pewter]

lol

[proper roost]

This is like 2/10 effort

[toxic pewter]

I mean its simple yeah

[proper roost]

If I don't instantly win my first trial of style i'm gonna be PISSED

[toxic pewter]

but for plate some pieces hard to make look like jeans and stuff

[sick sentinel]

nonnono

its perfect and art

[toxic pewter]

for vulpera simple outfits work best a lot of the time too

ive noticed

[modern brook]

no, the stat loss from the ring hurts too much at a certain ilvl differential sorry i was thinking of the onyx ring - i think we still use eranog ring - ultimately sim yourself for you answer

[toxic pewter]

i still using eranog ring

[daring marlin]

23 Neltharus

pog

[toxic pewter]

to be fair I did not expect to win lmao

[sick sentinel]

i tend not to drop ilvl unless by 1 upgrade difference on rings and trinkets

refuse to use old low ilvl trinkets that aren't completely overepowered

[mighty valley]

unfortunately eranog ring is completely overpowered

[sick sentinel]

💀

[toxic pewter]

lookin fancy

[sick sentinel]

oh my god

so many shields

[crude notch]

yogi what was your vault?

i need people's vaults, I was out to lunch

[toxic pewter]

socket

[sick sentinel]

i put shit into it already

but, thats the end result

[proper roost]

What'd you have for lunch

[crude notch]

Sticks is the name of the place, i think it's regional.

I chicken and rice with hummus was what I ate.

[proper roost]

Ooh

sounds great

[daring marlin]

errbody loves disappointment boxes

[proper roost]

You guys who are so pessimistic about vaults

Smh

Loser mentality is what it is

I am always happy with my vaults

because I play the game to have FUN

[toxic pewter]

wat the deal with the boots from trial of style vendor why they comically large

[proper roost]

ALL results are a W

[daring marlin]

this is legit your emote tho

[proper roost]

because my life is a W

Without spurts of sadness, one cannot truly be happy

but vaults aren't my source of sadness because they're always something to look forward to

even those that are only a socket

Never look forward to failure

That's an L mentality

[crude notch]

I can't be disappointed 12 vaults into the season really.

[daring marlin]

This is why I play this game btw

[proper roost]

Did you see the transmog I linked you

ok donowalled but

[crude notch]

who?

[proper roost]

i linked guilford a transmog and wanted his opinion

[daring marlin]

where?

[crude notch]

lol

[proper roost]

#protection message

[daring marlin]

this mf

[proper roost]

Wtf

I literally pinged?

[crude notch]

😋

[daring marlin]

discord crashed

also your ping means nothing if I'm afk and it's on this channel on my second monitor

[lusty grotto]

Sim ST, i replaced it last week after my 447 rings simmed higher by 26dps in ST. We havent used eranog since forever for AOE, it doesn't matter if you have belt or not.

[daring marlin]

ANYWAY LOOKS GOOD

[lusty grotto]

even before the nerfs we didnt use it for AOE/keys

[chilly brook]

Speaking of mogs

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-solemn-watchmans-garb-transmog-available-in-shop-334402

Why is every mog set blizz puts on the store absolute dog shit

[daring marlin]

so you don't wanna buy it

😛

[daring marlin]

Hey, do it.

[crude notch]

Fireplume and Celestial ones were banger

Sprite Darter was funnny af

[lusty grotto]

lol new world mogs

[chilly brook]

This and the silly envoy one they did aren’t good

At all

$15 for this is an insult lol

[lusty grotto]

people still buy them

[proper roost]

I mean, all the store stuff is overpriced

It's nothing new

Just don't buy ezpz

[lusty grotto]

i mean people sub for a year even after some dumb shit messes

its wow things, people will throw money at it

[proper roost]

If dumbos like me will buy some shitty legs because they have a thigh gap for $10 then y'know

wcyd

[crude notch]

How are you buying those legs btw?

DM if ToS

[proper roost]

what do you mean

aren't they literally just on the store

??

[crude notch]

are they?

idk

i'm dumb

[proper roost]

allegedly

[crude notch]

oh those are the fireplume legs

lmao

[proper roost]

that's what I meant by $10 lol its literally just in the cash shop

according to the wowhead comment on it anyway

[crude notch]

fireplume is $20 p sure

it was on sale prob during that comment

[crude notch]

if they want to sell their mogs they really should just showcase it on female belf every time.

[modern gazelle]

mirror is not good correct? It sims so high for me all the time but it seems like it doesnt do much when i used it

like mirror+sandglass sim higher at 441 than my 447 anvil+dargrul or chromatic essence

[proper roost]

Mamma mia

Fuck

[crude notch]

i'll buy for you bb

[daring marlin]

wtf I'm shit

[crude notch]

guilford washed?

[daring marlin]

that bm hunter fucked me

mf

[crude notch]

LULUULULULULULUL

you lost to a bm

[proper roost]

Hol

y

you got owned by a bm hunter

Literally the worst singletarget dps in the game

[daring marlin]

I hate it here

[uneven mason]

I mean they got a 15% buff?

[proper roost]

Looks like you're a tank main now buddy

You're washed

[lusty grotto]

link sim

[proper roost]

Tank mains are all former DPS players who suck now

[modern gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eAXwKAUEakjX1jGfnTXwnY

just doing 5 boss 1.5min for aoe

[crude notch]

to specific abilities that netted a 1% dps increase in ST.

[lusty grotto]

i dont see a 447 mark

[modern gazelle]

no mark is 441

anvil is 447

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4e2mKM4VJpCW2rBWJ6d2D1

[lusty grotto]

i guess you meant 447 anvil only

[daring marlin]

big tauren boy

[modern gazelle]

dungeon splice

[lusty grotto]

fuck dungeon splice

[modern gazelle]

yeah i never use it but thought id check

i usually just do 1 boss 5min or 5boss 1.5min

[lusty grotto]

1 boss 3 mins with lust

[modern gazelle]

anvil and dargrul sim higher in single target

[modern gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hE1MVkbTJA17igwTdDXev8

same for the 5min

[lusty grotto]

yes of course

[daring marlin]

spiteful means

I bust out these bad boys

[modern gazelle]

but wondering for m+ what to run, cause i have chromatic in my vault at 441

[lusty grotto]

hard to say, do you pug?

[modern gazelle]

mostly

[lusty grotto]

even if you dont

how many people in the group will have OCE?

[hazy bronze]

Probs haste tbqh

[modern gazelle]

prob not many generally id guess

[hazy bronze]

Unless you got a buddy to run with

[modern gazelle]

looking for what trink not what attunment

[lusty grotto]

so sim accordingly

go with 1 flight to be sure then sim with 2, 3, 4 and then adjust to the situation

[modern gazelle]

well chromataic isnt simming highest either way but thought about taking it just in case we could use an extra one id at least have it

[lusty grotto]

equip it or not based on those results

[modern gazelle]

mostly wondering about mirror and sandglass

since they sim high but it seemed like the general opinion was they arent good

[lusty grotto]

OCE will increase other OCE wearer's dps though

maybe your sim isn't but i dont really give a shit about it, if i see 3 people wearing it im gonna wear mine

[modern gazelle]

Yeah i might take it just so that I have one, but if no one has one is what i mean

[lusty grotto]

theres no clear cut answer

[modern gazelle]

is mirror and sanglass worth?

[lusty grotto]

you also simmed without any others in the group

[modern gazelle]

ah, either way though, if we assume no one else has it, my main question is how is mirror or sandglass?

[lusty grotto]

shrug

i dont have them nor care for them

[modern gazelle]

are the sims correct or are they off cause the trinks are still fairly new? Mirror felt kind of bad using it but it always sims good

[lusty grotto]

use em and see how they go

[daring marlin]

guess I can't complain too much

all my tier is 447

[modern gazelle]

do we know how much a socket generally adds?

[daring marlin]

13 ilvl on jewelry

[modern gazelle]

damn, so coins are decent then?

been trying to avoid taking them

[lusty grotto]

bro

take

the

ocec

jesus

[daring marlin]

oce good

[modern gazelle]

i already took the OCE

im just asking about the coins lol

[lusty grotto]

13 ilvl on jewelry isnt as much as you think

jewelry provide the least amount of stats overall of any item in your character

and no primary stat

[modern gazelle]

true

[sick sentinel]

playin some boom shoots tbh

[modern gazelle]

how do i change the chromatic essence in sim btw?

to include more players

[lusty grotto]

theres no options to sim in between

its either no buffs or all buffs

interpolate between those 2

[modern gazelle]

ah okay

For tanking incorporeal is there anything you should do different to make it easier for the group?

[torpid fiber]

ya, not be a warrior

[modern gazelle]

what makes it so bad as a warrior?

[lusty grotto]

just ignore them

get an SP and thats it

[modern gazelle]

👍

[lusty grotto]

north worth talenting shattering throw for it

let the group deal with it

[toxic pewter]

its great being a warrior

dont even have to think about it

[modern gazelle]

lol

[toxic pewter]

XD

[modern brook]

Int shout and storm bolt can be talented for spot answers while your long cc classes wake up. Menace will make fear last long enough to effectively be a full cc. Shattering throw also works but probably not worth the cast time tbh

Not much to adjust as far as tanking, it's much more of an attention check than anything that needs to be played around

[mighty valley]

the main thing you can do is stun or interrupt to buy a little more time for real cc

[sick sentinel]

looks like there is supposed to be a running preview option

but its not fully implemented

just default poses

[modern gazelle]

thanks

has shattering throw ever been a useful talent? 3min cd for that damage seems god awful lol, yes it ignores stuff but damn man

[lusty grotto]

no

only in pvp really

no idea why its not baseline like before but blizzard had to fill the tree with stuff

[mighty valley]

the instant cast version on the node is worthwhile for bosses with shields you wanna burst down

[warm plinth]

I honestly hope no warrior ever talents that shit for incorp week so blizzard can see what shit that idea was.

They could have at least put it on wrecking throw so you had an answer every wave

[modern gazelle]

talents menace?

[modern brook]

shattering

[warm plinth]

You still won't have an answer every wave

They spawn every 45 seconds

[modern brook]

IDK

warriors complaning about incorp is very much a grown man in 2 feet of water complaining hes drowning

[south zealot]

i dont think every class needs an answer to every affix

its already super fucking easy

[modern brook]

we have a lot of solutions

they're just not poly morph

[warm plinth]

I don't care if we do or not, but blizzard did or they wouldn't have made the change. So either give us an answer or don't

[south zealot]

if you have a priest it’s also literally beneficial to the group

[south zealot]

fair enough

its common in the dps warrior channels to be infuriated that warrior doesnt have a consistent answer every time

[warm plinth]

Personally I just enjoy being able to ignore it lol

[proper roost]

Tier dn

[warm plinth]

It's basically a zero affix week for war tanks

[south zealot]

on tyrannical its nice to take 10% reduced damage too

its push week

[modern gazelle]

id just like them to somehow balance that each tank was actually unique enough to be the best at certain things

[proper roost]

based and true

[south zealot]

0 brain required to keep anvil

[modern gazelle]

like we have an answer other classes dont while other classes have a unique answer to mechs that we dont, but sometime they bloat the hell out of one or two specs and it ruins it

[south zealot]

i mean

its pretty close

[lusty grotto]

i agree, but i also dont think there should be 1 class that solves justa bout everything cough priests

[modern gazelle]

priest util is so bonkers lmao

[modern brook]

Tank balance has historically been very close and people still gravitated towards the best option

[modern gazelle]

"affix bad?" bring priest

[modern brook]

like the Majority of SL no tank was a clear winner

then dk tier came out lmao

[lusty grotto]

and jailer mace

[urban portal]

9.0 prot

[lusty grotto]

because thats a big one

[proper roost]

nim says this without knowing how insane bear is over prot warrior rn

on god

[south zealot]

u had vdh/bear then bear/pally then dk/dk then dk/dk

[modern brook]

9.0 is an exception because all tanks were dogshit

[warm plinth]

Yeah. People just have skewed perspective because in wow, if it's not meta or bis, it's trash

[urban portal]

Abyssal strike is the best defensive in the game

[lusty grotto]

i know how insane it is, im just not gonna reroll like a mongoloid

[proper roost]

i literally didnt have to do any healing on a 22 fort VP final pack with a bear last week

because he did over 100k ATW sustained hps

for the entire pack

like for the entire

pack

every single crashing stone got instantly group 300k

'd

[south zealot]

idk man maybe im just a fat warrior gamer but bear is like max 1 key level over the other tabjs

[proper roost]

by the bear

on the hardest pack in fort

(ok ulda has harder ones nvm)

[south zealot]

ok but what if u have a 3 minute cd rally

[modern brook]

🤔

[lusty grotto]

if gearing was strictly doing keys

instead of dumb fucking reclears every week for trinkets

i might do other tanks

but honestly i dont have time to fotm reroll nor am interested

[mighty valley]

trinkets, man

they're the only part of wow gear that isn't dull as hell. and that makes acquiring them feel awful

fix it, blizzard. good luck

[modern gazelle]

i enjoy prot warrior the most, and am a firm believer that any class is capable of doing any content basically, but the thing that sucks is comunnity perspective

why take a warrior when you can take a bear and they can solo the fucking thing lol

[sick sentinel]

i gotta do 1500 niffen quest today for spark

luckily havent had to take other vault half spark yet to catch up

[modern gazelle]

same issue with aug now, why take 3 dps when you can take an aug and 2 pumpers and just make the key feel 3 levels lower

[compact fiber]

Get the dog maps and side quests inside the dig. Easy 200 rep

[mighty valley]

everything that's held them back from making a "support" spec for a decade still held true. and they just made it anyway

[grim pilot]

If you know the player thats one thing

But if you have full pugs to choose from

Bear is invincible

Wars… in my experience not

[south zealot]

the tanks have pretty close tankiness

besides from what ive seen and heard from top brews, brew

theres no way that was grammatically correct

lol

[crude notch]

ye bear is the most replaceable part of the meta

To the point where if it didn't have mark, it'd probably not be the meta tank

[modern gazelle]

im not too worried about bear cause itll get nerfed, but aug is bad for the game

like it will either be the most meta class in the game or so bad that its unplayable

[south zealot]

i think aug is good for the game longterm

[modern gazelle]

there wont ever be a point of balance

[south zealot]

they just need more support options to choose from

[sick sentinel]

game box has a fucking dragon on the box, expansion name includes the word dragon, you can be a dragon..... ppl surprised when dragon OP

[chilly brook]

@proper roost this might be an alternative to spending $20

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bones-of-the-bloodhunter-august-2023-monthly-reward-for-completing-travelers-log-334396

[toxic pewter]

thunderclap 5 yard range... meanwhile bear: I SWIPA ALL ENEMY IN 16 YARD

LOL

[grim pilot]

No its the fact that bear is 3 button and invincible

I wouldnt trust pugs with anything more

[mighty valley]

idk if it is overall good if the standard group comp is reshaped to tank + heal + support + 2 dps, that worries me

[south zealot]

dragon is op rn because they want the mouthbreathers to have success on aug

dude

idk wtf is up with you

NOONE CARES ABOUT PUG BALANCONG

[grim pilot]

.

[modern gazelle]

yeah, i dont dps much but dps queues are historically bad, if there is only 2 full dps slots now its gonna be worse

[south zealot]

if i ever talk about the meta please assume i am not talking about how shit functions in pugs

[grim pilot]

Can u read in regards to what I wrote what I wrote

Ty

Swear reading with comprehension is very rare nowadays

[south zealot]

youre an idiot

[grim pilot]

Kek w

[crude notch]

ah myrtuu is at it again

[south zealot]

i literally told you a couple days ago i never discuss pug meta

[grim pilot]

Jordan youre on drugs half the time from what youre typing

Why are you even still saying that

[crude notch]

solo what?

[dusky canopy]

So true LOL

[chilly brook]

Meta tank literally doesn’t matter most of the time

Tank spec is literally least impactful thing in keys

[crude notch]

Usually meta tank is a product of the rest of the group, not because it itself is multiple key levels ahead of every other tank.

[south zealot]

common matt w

[chilly brook]

We do a bit of winning

[crude notch]

I think PWar in BfA doing double any tanks damage and BDK SL S3/S4 are the exceptions

[south zealot]

even in sl s3/4 prot warrior was still pretty fucking good

[crude notch]

ye

[chilly brook]

In s4 prot was actually most likely the best tank in the game

But no one wanted to learn it lmfao

[south zealot]

i think once u get to 31s and shit zul gamux was just too op

if u couldnt skip it u were pretty fucked

maybe im though

[proper roost]

ye im insanely excited to get home and do transmog shit

fuck keys fuck raiding fuck vault

transmog is the real endgame

[south zealot]

kanga casual

holy moly

[proper roost]

Bro

I raided for 3h yesterday and had like 12 pulls

Just kill me choco shut up

[dusky canopy]

You can sim it via the "Advanced Sim" option in RaidBots by adding the following text to the bottom of your SimC output:

dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/emerald/obsidian/ruby

copy=Emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/obsidian/ruby

copy=Obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/ruby

copy=Azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=bronze/emerald/obsidian/ruby

copy=Ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/obsidian```

[proper roost]

u dont know what its like buddy

[dusky canopy]

Pardon the wall

Helping a gamer out

[proper roost]

and half the wipes were to MELEE

GOING TO THE WRONG HEART POSITIONS

MELEEEEEEE

AHHHHHHHHH

[south zealot]

i know what thats like bc its me

[proper roost]

AFTER RAID I WAS LIKE "U GUYS ALL DID GREAT GOOD PROG GUYS

EXCEPT MELEE U GUYS FUCKIN SUCK"

[daring marlin]

kanga so wholesome

[south zealot]

i fucked up hearts like 3 times lol

[daring marlin]

crazy

[proper roost]

LITERALLY
ONE
SPOT
BRO

[modern gazelle]

if i wanted like 3 people would i just delete one of the lines?

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[proper roost]

GO TO THE ONE SPOT!!! WTF!!!

[south zealot]

its hard man

ask carlo about it

melee and ranged have same job on nelth

[dusky canopy]

Well actually no, that just compares them all at once

As far as like what would your dps gain be if you had 3/5 buffs? I wouldn’t bother it’s extremely small to worry about

[modern gazelle]

ah alright

[warm plinth]

No one knows what it's like

To be the bad man

To be the sad man

Behind blue eyes

[toxic pewter]

i no wat it like

it toughm but some1 got be him

[chilly brook]

Yeah sometimes prog be a kms moment

[proper roost]

3 more hours til I win trial of style

[crude notch]

imagine being this weirdo

[dusky canopy]

[crude notch]

Anvil is literally bis for bear in ST and only behind beacon in AoE

He then put me on ignore

[prisma crane]

at least he kinda toned it down at the end

[daring marlin]

jordan trolling

smh my helmet

[prisma crane]

the ignore part makes no sense

[dusky canopy]

He hits “hose” so that about sums up that guy’s credibility

[south zealot]

i think nerf uses anvil in like 29 keys

[prisma crane]

i've literally ignored zero people unless it was clearly a bot spam thing

[prisma crane]

there's 2 t's bruv

[dusky canopy]

Shh 🤫

[daring marlin]

This is the slowest heroic pug I've ever been in

I wanna die

[prisma crane]

oh yea, i only saw 1 now that i looked again

[crude notch]

we zooming we on zskarn

[prisma crane]

https://tenor.com/view/what-a-loser-gif-10887475

[daring marlin]

We're on echo now

but

holy fuck

[dusky canopy]

Heroic sark pugging

It’s lit

[daring marlin]

haven't bothered in months

lmao

[dusky canopy]

I refuse

Got bacon on first kill

Ain’t going back

[crude notch]

it's okay I'm responding to him ignoring me like a mature adult

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

10/10

Is that mid* boss fight???

[crude notch]

ye

[dusky canopy]

Gottem

[toxic pewter]

that me

[crude notch]

i wouldn't be shocked

he's just as

[toxic pewter]

ya i teach him the ways

[warm plinth]

GUYS ARE MY TALENTS OKAY

[chilly brook]

NO YOU SHOUKD BE TAKING THE RAVAGER TALENTS AND NOT SHIELD CHARGE

[warm plinth]

[chilly brook]

WHY ARENT YOU USING SPEAR

[warm plinth]

I have been in fury mode so long that I got a sword made for prot last night and this happened

51.7% chance to crit block bois, let's go

[dusky canopy]

Mastery gaming

Run a key like that

It should be next to impossible with those stats right??

[chilly brook]

HEY WE SHOULD BE STACKING MASTERY AND VERS NOT HASTE I MEAN DONT YOU SEE HOW GOOD CRIT BLOCK IS? AND IT INCREASES YOUR CHANCE TO BLOCK AND YOUR DAMAGE

[warm plinth]

yeah I don't have 13.63% vers so

Clearly unliveable

[dusky canopy]

[warm plinth]

Look how hot my war is gonna look w/ this month's mog

[dusky canopy]

[crude notch]

kinda hot

[south zealot]

hear me out

spear + roar but no roar talent

[opaque oriole]

What’s a crit block?

And does it work with spell block?

[chilly brook]

It means you block so hard you crit yourself

[warm plinth]

Oh shit we got into an 18 freehold

[south zealot]

block twice the amount

[chilly brook]

I only did one key last week

[modern brook]

its our mastery. it basically just doubles the amount blocked from a successful block. unsure if it works with spell blockable things, but i would assume it does

[chilly brook]

[jagged pier]

it does and unlike physical damage it isnt capped

[warm plinth]

It does work, and what's more, spell block crit blocks are uncapped 🙂

[modern brook]

thats pog

[jagged pier]

so it can mitigate 100% of the damage

[chilly brook]

19 VP I cri

[jagged pier]

instead of stopping at 85%

[warm plinth]

I stream the FH

[opaque oriole]

Why is mastery “bad” then?

[warm plinth]

It's not

[south zealot]

its less damage than crit

[chilly brook]

Had to literally rescue the warlock into and out of the grounding triangle I swear man how do people get io

[south zealot]

stats dont really matter

[modern brook]

none of our stats are "bad" in the sense that you want to skip out on them

[south zealot]

wait guys holy moly

[opaque oriole]

👍

[jagged pier]

where strum?

[south zealot]

i think im cooking

[modern brook]

MAstery is the least desired because of the efficiency of the point distribution

[warm plinth]

https://twitch.tv/dooteranopia

[modern brook]

most blockable things are also parryable

so crit does ~the same defensively, and much better offensively

haste is needed to condense rotation and supply rage

[jagged pier]

[urban portal]

The only difference is that crit doesn’t give attack power

[opaque oriole]

Alright, so basically sim the gear to see what does the most dps?

[urban portal]

So mastery is better vs magic damage

Very minor

[modern brook]

remains true for ever

[chilly brook]

Basically

[south zealot]

FYCJ

FUCK

im not cooking

[chilly brook]

I didn’t cook

I just bought a hibachi bowl

[modern brook]

more like a hibitchy bowl

[warm plinth]

oh shit almost went in without a stance

[south zealot]

taking uproar is more damage than having spear

[warm plinth]

that would've been awkward

[chilly brook]

Excuse me sir the filet mignon was great

[modern brook]

it looks bangin ngl

[south zealot]

lol dont do that

[chilly brook]

I was surprised it was only $13

But I wasn’t gonna complain

[daring marlin]

this game is garbage

[chilly brook]

Oof

Bet he was a shitter too

[daring marlin]

sure was

[chilly brook]

That’s how it always goes

[sick spade]

question, how good is warr for zskarn bomb duty compared to other tanks?

[chilly brook]

Bad from my understanding

[sick spade]

Okay, thank you

[chilly brook]

But idk I don’t tank this tier

I just simp

[sick spade]

I was on bomb duty during reclears, (first time) and I had issues staying alive and required externals. I was just wondering

[dusky canopy]

Damnnn what’d you roll for?

[young wasp]

Anyone know if Lariat is worth updating if you're 5+ sockets, or is double shadowflame just better regardless

[lusty grotto]

no

lariat isnt worth upgrading for us

[jagged pier]

its the worst tank for bombs

but depending on comp u shouldnt need 3 tanks

[undone verge]

3 tanks is just 10x easier

[jagged pier]

i dunno we found 2 pretty easy but we have a lot of immunes

[proper roost]

you should asked how much

and opened trade window first

[strong forum]

a dude said hes gonna report me cuz i won asscandy for tmog

and that im a piece of shit griefing and making others gaming experience worse

[daring marlin]

call to chaos

[proper roost]

tbh I just like that you can legitimately just tell someone to pay you straight up now

And now they show their whole ass when they inevitably cannot pay

[strong forum]

gdkp runs

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-omg-shocked-face-meme-gif-25585329

[south zealot]

i love how dogshit bear rerollers are

this guy in a 17 is just spamming swipe

exclusively

[strong forum]

^this is what would happen if pwar had a filler ability

[lusty grotto]

you mean devastate spammers

[strong forum]

yeup

[lusty grotto]

🙂

[toxic pewter]

yeah damn maybe 0 rage ww is just an awful idea

[lusty grotto]

well we have IP spammers

but kinda hard to say given our rage intake now

[strong forum]

it atleast does anything if you spam IP

swipe is just straight up trolling

[lusty grotto]

true

[strong forum]

youre better if you remove it from your bars

[jagged pier]

we dont they spamm revenge more and gen less rage and do less damage and waste more rage over a key

[strong forum]

cuz thats like 98% efficient

[jagged pier]

well we might

but i see revenge spammers more often

[lusty grotto]

yeah revenge spamming is more accurate

[proper roost]

ok nim bad news

i cannot key until thursday

[lusty grotto]

i raid xiv today and thursdays 🙂

[proper roost]

i am watching the historical film filled with oppenheimer fucking for some reason on tomorrow