shrug its hard to go back after getting it
#protection
round pendant
I need the gold more
sick sentinel
80k for what just 67 mastery/haste or whatever yeah IDC
round pendant
or I could just buy a token and forget about it ig
lusty grotto
shrug
lusty grotto
or just get it after 3 weeks of farming with 6 alts smh my head
sick sentinel
How about NO CHEF
sick sentinel
Exactly
round pendant
ok time to see if I can get someone to recraft my shield for less than 10k gold
sick sentinel
or just get it after 3 weeks of farming with 6 alts smh my head
i thought farming in RS was stupid when it was first announced too
seems to be pretty popular activitiy though
lusty grotto
ah a yogi out of topic take
sick sentinel
lusty grotto
he wasnt
round pendant
i thought farming in RS was stupid when it was first announced too
Farming is a dope skill
lusty grotto
ghash screenshot that
cause that's gonna be real
i played the superior mmo as my 1st one
not some wish.com ultima online
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMV5WY5Z5CE for a very short amount of time i used to play this
like, it was very short due more to extreme off and on play
its only like maybe half as good as trailer shows
sick sentinel
it was the original one i mean, and it was like BAD BAD
like, you face a guy in fire armor so you put on a literal ice sword
or tree and you put on earth armor and fire sword
that video is more accurate slightly
sick sentinel
if i attempt more FH a8 today, wont stand in any rock throws
lusty grotto
ill be on after 7 pm
proper roost
ok we'll see then, might be goin to watch oppenheimer with a friend, might not idk
grim pilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMV5WY5Z5CE for a very short amount of time i u...
God I had like lvl 40 on that
When I was 7
Havent seen anyone mention this game anywhere in my life
sick sentinel
all i remember for sure is it would send me on some quest
and i could beat like some of the monsters
and then i'd get to one thats tought
and then everything after would just wreck my shit
daring marlin
yogi get the cloak yet?
BROTHER
oh damn keys are gonna be sick next week
Incorp/Spiteful lmaooooo
sick sentinel
me when afflicted week in 7 more days or we are worrying about some kind of external dispel, lust, or brez not being present in the group
sick sentinel
whats the difference if any between AP weaon stones and weapon runes
like is there a point where AP one is ever better
modern brook
whats the difference if any between AP weaon stones and weapon runes
one gives ap and the others give stats
modern brook
like is there a point where AP one is ever better
sick sentinel
one gives ap and the others give stats
i mean like in terms of dps, i dunno if they are on par with or not equal to runes
modern brook
i mean like in terms of dps, i dunno if they are on par with or not equal to run...
ADvanced sim-> paste this under your /simc
###################
### Weapon enchants
###################
copy="Weapon: (crit) Buzzin rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Weapons: (haste) Howling rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Weapons: (mastery) Hissing rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3
copy="Weapons: (AP) Whetstone rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="no weapon oil"
temporary_enchant=disabled```
proper roost
i love simming
robot is the only fun thing about the game (I don't actually think this but it is actually like 80% of my enjoyment)
modern brook
I love wow until I have to play it
proper roost
mythic prog in a bad CE guild is not that fun actually
soon i have to say goodbye to the robot though
south zealot
join a good guild then pusc
daring marlin
@modern brook do you need any KEYS?
modern brook
probably
proper roost
get a load of this guy
modern brook
I dont think i did much this week
crude notch
Here have some nerdy numbers https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/status/1685960897737502721?t=xUFmCtwhetw2Axli8mVSrg&s=19
modern brook
is that a real 8 hours or the kind of 8 hours where i wait 8 hours youre not on i go do 1 thing and you tell me i abandoned you
modern brook
i mean im down either way
crude notch
Definitely the latter
daring marlin
Feel free to YELL AT ME BTW
crude notch
Blood already knows
daring marlin
If I'm ever slow to get on I'm probably making food
modern brook
oh shit actually i might not be able to 8 might need to be 9
daring marlin
as I already got my leg workout in this morning
modern brook
i have to go to the store for tomorrow
daring marlin
🤝
crude notch
How those legs feeling
daring marlin
better than when I initially left
grim pilot
Here have some nerdy numbers https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/status/1685960897737...
Safe to assume top 5 will be over 90%, so its not even comparable to anything else from any previous season
No warlock no survi no anything
daring marlin
Pendulum squats are the devil
proper roost
where i wait 8 hours youre not on i go do 1 thing and you tell me i abandoned you
this literally happened to me all week and then guilford yells at me for not inviting to keys (after not asking)
(after yelling at me for me not asking)
:hmph:
crude notch
He's moved on kanga he's got his latest catch
daring marlin
this is hogwash
daring marlin
tsunderemeowster
more like
gonna open vault tomorrow as prot for 1h or shield on my pally and craft the other
Lack of pugs kicking is making me wanna lose it
modern brook
u just cursed yourself to 3 tank trinkets you know
proper roost
socket dn
proper roost
i'm a gnome now
crude notch
A gnome what?
crude notch
Ah
daring marlin
Manifesting a weppy or shield for you <@145702969990578178> 🙏
Bull already jinxed it
sick sentinel
Why prot F tier
strong forum
always F
modern brook
Frot
grim pilot
F to pay respect
strong forum
F to Ignore Pain
toxic pewter
is there any world where we can take enduring alacrity
sick sentinel
F means F***** Broken?
proper roost
gimme legion
plush tendon
Why prot F tier
F for fantastic!
proper roost
but with deterministic legendaries
daring marlin
but with deterministic legendaries
yes
mighty valley
is there any world where we can take enduring alacrity
sure! you just have to drop a way better talent for it
modern brook
is there any world where we can take enduring alacrity
i mean you can take whatever you want. ITs not recomended cause you need to drop damage, rage gen, or another surv node none of which can particularly be justified for slightly higher health pool
toxic pewter
doesnt the armor and haste it gives count for something
modern brook
yes
daring marlin
apb, serial harasser
toxic pewter
cuz we get more str from armor
mighty valley
it's 1% haste
modern brook
it counts for 1% haste
toxic pewter
seems it would give me roughly 50 str too
crude notch
modern brook
ok it counts for 1% haste and 50 str
mighty valley
sure, just... tell me which talent you'd drop for that
modern brook
^
toxic pewter
def tough.. thats for sure
modern brook
the answer is like Enduring defenses, swapping back to HR
which is stupid
because ur sacrificing haste and block for uhhh less haste, and less armor
and 50 str
toxic pewter
kinda just like the talent wish I could take it
daring marlin
bigbrainfango, gym rat
toxic pewter
but yeah just doesnt make sense
crazy how packed our spec tree is with good talents
crude notch
You're a good talent
grim pilot
2777
dusky canopy
Sure, joke would be the same
sick sentinel
Even 11s are super hard bro without those classes
I just about timed an 11 without a meta comp
Deffo gonna be fast
Okay i need to stop hating
"Be humble"
dusky canopy
Oh yes without a doubt
sick sentinel
Warrior support class when?
Give us some war drums to bang
Warrior bard
Hell yeah
dusky canopy
They will have oversight somewhere they’re only human
grim pilot
Give bl to war
dusky canopy
YES
grim pilot
First tank with bl
dusky canopy
Agreed
sick sentinel
but we have tank spec so nope
sick sentinel
if they give prot warr lust we still wont be picked
dusky canopy
Maybe
sick sentinel
Give us CR
dusky canopy
What comp would open up if we had lust as warrior?
sick sentinel
And lower rally to 2min
dusky canopy
Aug already brings lust
sick sentinel
HELL YEAH PUSSY PARTY
timber terrace
warrior isn't lacking utility the biggest reason it's not even considered right now is the meta dps are casters ,warrior buff doesn't do anything
dusky canopy
Yes but you have to bring Aug currently witch has lust
dusky canopy
Are we assuming a made up melee support?
lusty tiger
Outlaw might get reworked into a support
timber terrace
I really doubt blizzard wants to go through the nightmare of balancing several support specs and their interactions
lusty tiger
Well it’s unbalanced to have only 1 support spec
dusky canopy
They kinda don’t have a choice right?
lusty tiger
Correct
dusky canopy
They opened up the support roll door
Unless they close it by removing Aug they almost have to add more
lusty tiger
Arcane and affliction might become support specs also
sick sentinel
Remove aug make evoker tank spec gg
lusty tiger
I wish
lusty tiger
I want a polearm/shield dragon tank
timber terrace
they didn't ,they overtuned a spec and everyone is overeacting because it's currently op, but it would be impossible to have several support classes and balance it in a raiding environment with ppl knowing what they're doing
dusky canopy
I don’t think any existing spec would be converted to support, with the exception of maybe disc
lusty tiger
What converting the specs does is let triple dps classes actually have a spec that can find a group to gear out or push
modern brook
They said they didn't want to adjust existing specs in that way
dusky canopy
Right ^
sick sentinel
Blizzard are just monkeys
lusty tiger
Idk my buddy told me they were doing that
dusky canopy
They could technically go back on that ofc but doubtful
sick sentinel
Wow dead in 3 years
dusky canopy
Each existing spec has a fan base
proper roost
my uncle from blizz said they're actually gonna change prot warrior into a support class because it's useless already
modern brook
Except survival
dusky canopy
It would not be in blizzards interest to covert them
sick sentinel
RIOT mmo when
toxic pewter
riot mmo will be canceled
dusky canopy
Remember the combat to outlaw?
toxic pewter
not exactly sure on when
modern brook
Remember the combat to outlaw?
No I started playing after outlaw existed:^)
dusky canopy
No I started playing after outlaw existed:^)
Mannnnn killing spree combat
So much fun!
Rip combat
modern brook
Killing spree is my favorite cd I never get to play
dusky canopy
Exactly
sick sentinel
Combat was what i played
dusky canopy
Love that button
modern brook
S1 SL owned for rhat
toxic pewter
WoW is dead
lol, blizz actively working on wow 2.. sooo... yeah......
sick sentinel
Confirmation?
toxic pewter
lol? wat
timber terrace
Wow 2 but PvE is cancelled
toxic pewter
wow is almost 20 years old
why would you think they would not capitalize on a wow 2
at this point
sick sentinel
Internet says wow 2 is no
modern brook
Wow 2 was bc smh
timber terrace
why would they the game is ever evolving it had nothing to do with the initial game, be it graphics or gameplay wise
modern brook
Were on wow 10 quite literally
toxic pewter
all these new models of inns and crap and rebuilding of the world will be for wow 2
timber terrace
The models already evolve without the need to make a "new" game
modern brook
Wow will die the same way Diablo will die tbj
plush tendon
the only reason I would imagine they would do wow 2 would be so they could work develop it on a more modern engine or something
sick sentinel
I waited years for D4, Still not bought it
modern brook
Blizzard will make some heavily questionable decisions and an indie alternative will finally actually produce
plush tendon
but I imagine, that lots of players like me, would be salty as fudge to lose all of our stuffs from over the years
sick sentinel
WoW mobile game is WoW 2
timber terrace
Poe mmo
sick sentinel
WOW SHADOW LEGENDS
modern brook
Wows lasted this long because maintaining a player base in an mmo is fucking impossible
plush tendon
I thought riot had a MMO in development
toxic pewter
yeah, they do
sick sentinel
Riot do
timber terrace
can't come to raid I just bricked my tier set with a vaal orb
plush tendon
wow knows
sick sentinel
I bet all my gold
plush tendon
attachment to wow is still pretty hard to break at this point
mighty valley
my final wish on my deathbed will be that my great grandchildren have a good time playing the riot mmo when it comes out
toxic pewter
I bet all my gold
somebody mark this post
modern brook
my final wish on my deathbed will be that my great grandchildren have a good tim...
What's a Katarina grandpa
plush tendon
brokie!
sick sentinel
If i need gold which i dont i just buy wow token
toxic pewter
?
sick sentinel
I have 300k spread
All i buy is enchants and consumes
So a wow token every 2-3 months is enough
But i just rememebered I gotta play ESO
I forgot new expansion
round pendant
lmao doing a normal nelth for satchel
and my beacon did 50% of a bosses hp
that was satisfying
lusty tiger
round pendant
where's the portal in orgrimmar tho
round pendant
oh shit for some reason my brain didn't register crystalsong forest as a WOTLK place
mighty valley
Not a lot happened there
dusky canopy
Crystal song was basically some quests
grim pilot
Crystalsong was basically dalaran and thats it
torpid fiber
how many sockets do we need before we start looking at using lariat again?
jagged pier
we dont look at it again
toxic pewter
so in neltharus are people still doing that first pull to the chain or wat
proper roost
hey what level do i cash in the 400k profession exp
strong forum
Yeah, to get chain on CD
proper roost
is it 68.5 or 68
toxic pewter
Yeah, to get chain on CD
ok thx
proper roost
@crude notch i need help
strong forum
Help? In this economy?
crude notch
My data is supposedly out dated and only applied during the 50% xp buff (or so I'm told, haven't checked myself)
grim pilot
hey what level do i cash in the 400k profession exp
If by “that” you mean left side to chain then no, just go right grab shitton of mobs then chain
crude notch
Uh
crude notch
68.7 was last I did.
Or roughly 50k left to 69.
Ghash was saying it doesn't give a full level anymore but 400k > 350k last I checked.
proper roost
hmm
crude notch
I'd pull it up but I'm not at my computer sorry
proper roost
it's ok i hope u have a good day
lusty grotto
If by “that” you mean left side to chain then no, just go right grab shitton of ...
lol
red reply button missed
strong forum
that 1h sword looks sick
chilly brook
too many poop shields in this game
Truuuue
strong forum
the shield is what im eyeing
i dont like the roses on it
plush tendon
yea, the roses feel a bit much
plush tendon
Add some nice variation to my human heritage armor!
I went back to being a Dwarf Warrior
make room for Human Paladin and DK
daring marlin
LMAO
sick sentinel
pee-wee herman is dead
dusky canopy
And that shield, yo I’m kinda digging that shield ngl for the size
sick sentinel
warrior is about perfectly maintaining his armor and sword
crude notch
Brew you're such a size queen, I love it
crude notch
toxic pewter
bigger they are.. harder they fall
dusky canopy
That’s what we like
sick sentinel
i will say, i see alot more people named like onlyhealer, or boumheadshot, or like milkimommi was another that stood out
alot more of the really dumb names
dusky canopy
I’ve conceded to just always being brew lol
brittle owl
broo
dusky canopy
crude notch
My back hurts from carrying this discord
sick sentinel
My back hurts from carrying this discord
your like bat -person i guess? its 2023 then, the hero nobod asked for but we all needed
crude notch
That edit made me chuckle thank you yogi
lusty grotto
carry dn
strong forum
My back hurts from carrying this discord
crude notch
Went and did a 40 minute walk around downtown we vibing.
dusky canopy
Is that the farthest you’ve walked?
door dashes from a food place across the street
crude notch
Toxic
dusky canopy
Bro come on was that not funny?
brittle owl
germany is cringe weather
strong forum
Wrong
strong forum
We had good weather for a good 3 months
mighty valley
take some of our california sun
lusty grotto
from the middle of hell: i hate you all
strong forum
take some of our california sun
Pls gib
strong forum
I strive in +30°C
brittle owl
hot yermann
strong forum
Went on a 2.5hr bikeride at 38°C 2 weeks ago
crude notch
I'm definitely more physically active in 20 or lower
brittle owl
20-30 deg is bis no matter who you are i feel
strong forum
But I was kinda concerned when I felt cold despite being out in the open sun
On a bike
Going uphill
brittle owl
prob sweaty in the shade at speed
strong forum
Yeah
lusty grotto
please take some of this global warming with you
mighty valley
I'm going to vegas for evo and it's gonna be almost 45
crude notch
Nah 0 is peak for me. Love feeling that cold air in my lungs
strong forum
Cold is cringe
strong forum
Summer is bis
crude notch
Cold is bis
strong forum
I kinda want to get into mountain biking
Literally what I do
crude notch
Summer is cringe
crude notch
@me
strong forum
lusty grotto
how dare
dusky canopy
Yo that bike is sick nome!
strong forum
Yeup
crude notch
Is that a displate or a poster?
strong forum
Displate
dusky canopy
Any recommendations for like a beginner setup for that? Or should I spend some time like researching and watching YouTube and all that?
crude notch
Is that a candle holder???
strong forum
Ye
crude notch
Does it unlock a secret laboratory?
dusky canopy
I’m physically fit if that changes your suggestion
strong forum
Any recommendations for like a beginner setup for that? Or should I spend some t...
Uuuh, depends how hard you wanna go, technically you can go with any ol bike
I worked my way up from a basic 600€ only front suspension
To a fully, to this beast
I recommend a fully tho
dusky canopy
Front and rear suspension saves the “ass bone” right from like drops and stuff lol
strong forum
Scott and Cannondale have very good variety
strong forum
Front and rear suspension saves the “ass bone” right from like drops and stuff l...
Also just smoothes out the general ride
I can go over fucking brick roads with mine
And it doesn't feel like much
dusky canopy
Shoot man I might just make this freaking hobby happen then I’ve been tossing it around for a while now
There’s a few trails around me within like a 40 minute drive
Some closer some farther
strong forum
It's worth it
dusky canopy
True but I hate cardio and that’s a fun way to do it
strong forum
And going on trails fucks up your arms if you're not trained
dusky canopy
That’s why I’ve been considering
dusky canopy
I watched some YouTube on guys speeding through trails
And let me tell ya
It looks insane
They’re like dodging through trees and shit
strong forum
Kilian bron, Mountain of hell
sick sentinel
mythic keystone irl
dusky canopy
I’ll add it to my watch list for sure sounds sick just by the names!
strong forum
Helicopter/lift
sick sentinel
dusky canopy
That is sick!
strong forum
sick sentinel
or, hell mountain from zellda 2 for nes
crude notch
I love that they're previewing things to come well in advance
So that you can decide to hold or not
lusty tiger
Very over due but looks cool
sick sentinel
hunters and free hold don't mix
median tulip
Guys; I was on an Alt in Neltharion's Lair, and the tank did something I haven't seen before; instead of running away from the boss for Spiked Tongue, he ran around behind it and didn't die; anyone know how that works?
warm plinth
Was it a warrior or?
median tulip
He was a Pally
warm plinth
I'm assuming there's probably another safe spot back there; that would be my guess
median tulip
Presumably, I've just never seen it before
warm plinth
New to me as well
My first thought was that it was a BDK and he just found somewhere that was far enough away to just death's advance there lol
warm plinth
sigh, login issues again blizzard, really
median tulip
Behind a rock
Interesting; thanks for confirming
warm plinth
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-previews-new-class-sets-coming-to-the-trad...
Only downside is having to pick which sets to get and which you have to wait for to come back around. Plus I'm curious if we'll even have enough to get both the weapons and the armor in the same month
median tulip
Probably not as much use as just pressing Charge for us, but good to know about
warm plinth
Pressing charge?
chilly brook
Only downside is having to pick which sets to get and which you have to wait for...
It’s a good thing I’ve barely spent any
warm plinth
Griff with the giga brain strats
median tulip
Pressing charge?
after spkied tongue
warm plinth
Right, the point of the safe spots is not having to worry about using the puddles though. It's not so you can get back faster
grim pilot
warm plinth
The other safe spot is on the other side of the room from the boss
median tulip
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073346086749618178/1134894224538616031/0...
Nice, thanks
warm plinth
Ah, I assume they use that one because, at least on bear, you can still attack the boss
karmic plinth
might be balance affinity helping out there
or whatever the new passive is for extra range
astral influence
warm plinth
Yeah that's what I was meaning. I don't know if war would be able to attack from there, but still more convenient than going across the room or dealing with the puddles
She does have a decent sized hitbox though so it's possible war could
lusty grotto
wym
just dont have shitty pugs that bait puddles in africa
for sbg i mean 😎
also did nerf finally go through puberty because that's not the tone i remember
crude notch
yes he became british too
lusty grotto
oh nice
crude notch
_<
lusty grotto
what a turn around
also fuck sbg worm, that boss was so stupidly boring
my friends just randomly send freedoms/TLs just for shit and giggles during puddles
or sent, rather
lusty grotto
lol
grim pilot
also fuck sbg worm, that boss was so stupidly boring
That was the shittiest boss I’ve had to deal with
Took north of 10 mins to kill
Dealt 0 damage
And was buggy and annoying if you didnt remember which puddle was last put
lusty grotto
also its aoe hitbox was ass
grim pilot
If you used bladestorm after entering or were already bladestorming you were fucked
lusty grotto
rend wouldnt apply half the time with TC
lusty grotto
you literally had to be on its nuts
grim pilot
You had to stand in breathing distance to hit it
2nd boss was awesome too
You could play +40 without a healer if tank survived a frontal
dusky canopy
I don’t miss sbg
grim pilot
I fucking miss aa rlp av
Cos was fun to tank
I dont miss hov though 😠
Shit ass dungeon I depleted that key by 0.5sec
And couldnt time it till the end of the season
median tulip
SBG was the easiest dungeon of last season though
I ran it so many times when I needed to fill up my Vault and was feeling lazy
It was the equivalent of Theatre of Pain for S1DF
crude notch
👀
median tulip
I miss ToP
daring marlin
ToP owned
crude notch
ToP was good but it wasn't the vault filler
median tulip
Streets was a decent option for vault filling as well
toxic pewter
sl dungeons are better than df dungeons thats for sure
df dungeons actually my least favorite dungeons of all time
median tulip
I hated NW; Stitchflesh could go fuck himself
median tulip
sl dungeons are better than df dungeons thats for sure
Counter Argument: Plaguefall
dusky canopy
Tbh I don’t remember focusing one dungeon in SL for vault
I kinda just did them all and avoided SoA
toxic pewter
Counter Argument: Plaguefall
I will admit i did not like PF that much yeah but still better than DF dungeons
grim pilot
Well I only played df s1 and s2 but from the legacy dungeons either they are shit choice or df are just that good
toxic pewter
df dungeons just suck ass
grim pilot
U cant tell me aa av rlp are shit
south zealot
av is dogshit
grim pilot
Those 3 are s tier in my head
toxic pewter
.. yikes ...
chilly brook
AV is a cool dungeon
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
lol wat
chilly brook
Last boss kinda grody tho
chilly brook
RLP is gross
grim pilot
Bosses were kinda meh
dusky canopy
I liked AV a lot more once I figured it out
chilly brook
Dislike it
median tulip
AV got a lot better once we all started skipping half the dungeon
toxic pewter
Av was giga fun
in some countries you are actually arrested for saying that
grim pilot
in some countries you are actually arrested for saying that
Thankfully I am a polish person living in netherlands
There are more stuff I should be arrested for
toxic pewter
fair enough XD
grim pilot
Y’all just grumpy
median tulip
I absolutely hate Nokhud Offensive and Brackenhide Hollow though
dusky canopy
Tbh the only dungeon I truly hate in DF is uldaman
Hard agree fuck that place
grim pilot
It was enjoyable once every 30 runs
chilly brook
Not the best
median tulip
I hate Nokhud for the Same reason I hated Halls of Absolution in SL
chilly brook
Do enjoy the actual dungeon design
grim pilot
Nokhud is ok
Did you also enjoy hov
crude notch
Mists was horrid, RNG maze suddenly being able to add 3 minutes to your key, nice design.
SD was garbage and too dependent on buff.
ToP was a 5-boss dungeon, which are instant nos.
NW was done by weapon damage and not individual skill and let's not forget about dying with a weapon.
PF was the fakest non-linear dungeon ever, also gross dungeon.
Halls everyone said had route creativity once again fake non-linear and too many patrols.
SoA yeah good job create a dungeon where I have to wear sunglasses to even do it without getting a headache.
And DOS, LMAO if I wanted to go for a walk I'd go outside.
grim pilot
Whole fucking raid in there
crude notch
Every single DF dungeon has been better than any dunge in SL don't at me
toxic pewter
ToP owned wtf
toxic pewter
but yeah dos is one on of the worst dungens ever
chilly brook
Did you also enjoy hov
HoV is a cool dungeon ye
median tulip
Both NO and HoA are incredibly linear, no-choice dungeons where your route is entirely constrained by all of the trigger mobs/packs to make the bosses activate.
south zealot
streets and gambit owned
dusky canopy
Mists was horrid, RNG maze suddenly being able to add 3 minutes to your key, nic...
Hahaha true!
south zealot
Both NO and HoA are incredibly linear, no-choice dungeons where your route is en...
halls of atonement is linear?
toxic pewter
time will show that shadowlands raids and dungeons were actually really good, DF will go down as pretty bad
chilly brook
But that applied in legion too
grim pilot
HoV is a cool dungeon ye
They should lock you in mental asylum
chilly brook
Place was aids on tyran weeks
median tulip
streets and gambit owned
Streets was fun, Gambit was Meh
south zealot
i mean sure like 50% count you are forced but the other 50% y can kill whatever mobs in the courtyard you wanted
dusky canopy
I liked HoV
toxic pewter
tazavesh is so good
dusky canopy
As tank you literally back pedal and never worry about dying
chilly brook
time will show that shadowlands raids and dungeons were actually really good, DF...
No one really argued that raids in SL were bad or the dungeons kinda a weird take
median tulip
halls of atonement is linear?
Yes. There really isn't much choice in the route because of what you have to pull to activate the first boss
dusky canopy
Literally easiest shit
chilly brook
But that being said SoD was a dogshit tier
crude notch
Streets and gambit weren't SL dungeons, but if you consider megadungeons separately, TZV was the worst of the ones released
grim pilot
Neltharus would be pretty cool if last boss wasnt wack with charge weapon and every boss wasnt bugged as fuck
daring marlin
@grim pilot based king
toxic pewter
Streets and gambit weren't SL dungeons, but if you consider megadungeons separat...
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
daring marlin
AV owns
chilly brook
Also ngl Sepulchre was also dogshit because it was overtuned as fuck
daring marlin
lmao
south zealot
Streets and gambit weren't SL dungeons, but if you consider megadungeons separat...
they were shadowlands dungeons but i agree with the second half
toxic pewter
No one really argued that raids in SL were bad or the dungeons kinda a weird tak...
na, most people currently look back at shadowlands as the worst expansion blizz has ever made
south zealot
its one of the worst but that doesnt make it bad
all the mega dungeons have been great
chilly brook
na, most people currently look back at shadowlands as the worst expansion blizz ...
Because it was
WoD didn’t have content but it also didn’t have completely dogshit systems
toxic pewter
right LOL, time will prove that you are wrong ( will take some years for this)
daring marlin
na, most people currently look back at shadowlands as the worst expansion blizz ...
They do that EVERY SINGLE TIME
dusky canopy
What sword?
round pendant
nice dead fucking servers
toxic pewter
They do that EVERY SINGLE TIME
that is also true, lmao
south zealot
shadowlands from 9.0-9.1 had MAJOR issues
chilly brook
SL was truly bad lmfao
south zealot
9.1.5 is when the game got to a playable state
chilly brook
Like there really isn’t a debate around this
toxic pewter
na, soon everyone will look back at SL and see its positives
gonna take some more time
daring marlin
TOO BAD I QUIT BEFORE THEY PULLED WHAT RIPCORD???
toxic pewter
but it will happen
chilly brook
What positives
toxic pewter
???
crude notch
Covenant buffs alone ruined the dungeons
south zealot
What positives
season 4 was the best season of m+ ever, the raids and dungeons were solid
grim pilot
Neltharus would be pretty cool if last boss wasnt wack with charge weapon and ev...
A friendly list of bugged bosses
median tulip
na, most people currently look back at shadowlands as the worst expansion blizz ...
The thing with Shadowlands (IMO) is that it really suffered from the delays and working limits during Covid. Which is why the Dungeons and Nathria were good (designed beforehand), but the latter two raids were dogshit unfun
chilly brook
Again CN was good, SoD was dogshit and Sepulchre was aids when it released
south zealot
i wouldnt say it was a great expansion but it wasnt terrible
toxic pewter
sepulchre one of the finest raids theyve ever made
chilly brook
most nerfed raid in the history of wow
median tulip
sepulchre one of the finest raids theyve ever made
What the fuck are you smoking?
crude notch
A friendly list of bugged bosses
if you judge dungeon sets by their bugs, every dungeon set ever has been dogshit
torpid fiber
Again CN was good, SoD was dogshit and Sepulchre was aids when it released
sanctum was baller
toxic pewter
What the fuck are you smoking?
?
south zealot
sepulcher was incredibly hard
grim pilot
No neltharus is uncomparable
toxic pewter
sepulcer fucking owned
chilly brook
One of the lowest engagement rates
grim pilot
To any other df dungeon
south zealot
easily the hardest raid theyve made
grim pilot
That shit had 10 bugs
crude notch
I'm wondering the relevance of bugs
dusky canopy
SoFo sucked balls nobody changing my mind
grim pilot
I'm wondering the relevance of bugs
Its annoying, shows unfinished work
torpid fiber
SoFo sucked balls nobody changing my mind
sounds like you got bodied by halondrus
median tulip
Hallondrus, killer of Guilds
chilly brook
sanctum was baller
Sorry but no. The silly gem gear and the entire later half of the raid was terrible…….
south zealot
sounds like you got bodied by halondrus
everybody got bodied by halondrus
toxic pewter
I mean it was difficult yeah but you cannot deny it was a good raid
with some memorable fights
median tulip
Oh gods those fucking "everyone's a DK now" shards... that could all fuck right off
crude notch
Its annoying, shows unfinished work
what does this have to do with the discussion at hand?
torpid fiber
lets be honest though, tazavesh carried shadowlands
chilly brook
Only memorable fights are Halondrus and Star boi
grim pilot
what does this have to do with the discussion at hand?
Ranking of dungeons in one’s opinion
crude notch
If I gave an iota of care about bugs, I wouldn't play this game at all
south zealot
halondrus anduin and jailer before they got obliterated with a shit ton are 3 of the hardest fights ever made
torpid fiber
classic cthun say shi
south zealot
if you believe classic cthuun is a hard boss you are bad at the game
grim pilot
If I gave an iota of care about bugs, I wouldn't play this game at all
If every dungeon was bugged I would approach it differently, since nelth stands out I count it as part of my dungeon rating
torpid fiber
it was literally impossible for awhile lol
median tulip
lets be honest though, tazavesh carried shadowlands
All of the memorable parts of Shadowlands, for me, are Denathrius and Nathria
toxic pewter
at the end of the day I cannot help but still feel I had more fun in SL than DF though.. why is that
south zealot
it was only difficult bc raiders were dogshit at the game and had hamsters on wheels for their pc
south zealot
it was literally impossible for awhile lol
jailer was literally impossible until double legendaries were added like 3 weeks into the patch
chilly brook
I mean I had a lot of fun in OG wrath
grim pilot
Crack abuser
south zealot
the old game is old
median tulip
Denathrius should have been the main bad guy of the entire expansion. They wasted his potential.
torpid fiber
daddy d is still alive
median tulip
And the voice acting in Nathria was amazing. Far better than anything else in SL
torpid fiber
he will be back
daring marlin
And it’s worse than retail
facts bro
dusky canopy
I went back and played it
Yeah classic will never replicate OG WoW, we are all to sweaty now everything is min maxed
daring marlin
Denathrius should have been the main bad guy of the entire expansion. They waste...
Hindsight is 20/20.
crude notch
you're 20/20
chilly brook
Denathrius should have been the main bad guy of the entire expansion. They waste...
ThE jAiLeR hAd PlAnNeD iT aLl ThOuGh BrO
grim pilot
Relevance of classic was because it was new to people
south zealot
id say jailer had a memorable fight for the sole fact its arguably the hardest boss made
grim pilot
As content had to be made harder to keep people interested old raids and content are not the same
chilly brook
You’re missing the point, just because you had a lot of fun with one version of the game doesn’t mean it’s better than the current version
pallid quiver
Hindsight is 20/20.
i didn't need hindsight to think, when I saw Denathrius, "Damn, I wish this guy was the main villain. IT'd rock"
south zealot
Relevance of classic was because it was new to people
and bc people were bad at the game, you relied on other people a lot
toxic pewter
i think I am going to start chillin in oribos again, valdrakken suk ass
chilly brook
There are lots of things that factor into enjoyment
south zealot
there was more reason to communicate with people in the world
sick sentinel
no idea whats going on but done 2 freeholds so far, and both ended in a minute
chilly brook
SL has the benefit of being during COVID and people just had a shit ton of free time as a result
torpid fiber
JUSTICE FOR WOD CAPITAL CITIES
grim pilot
no idea whats going on but done 2 freeholds so far, and both ended in a minute
Timed within a minute
south zealot
dude imagine legion happened during covid
sick sentinel
2nd pull try to go around pillar, and then the guys to left get pulled also
crude notch
Oh by the way if you had to guess, which season of M+ do you think has been the most played season since BfA S1?
((Found this out last night))
chilly brook
S4 of SL
daring marlin
i didn't need hindsight to think, when I saw Denathrius, "Damn, I wish this guy ...
They only kept him alive because players loved him
dusky canopy
^
crude notch
2nd least played was S2 BfA.
chilly brook
Least played was S4 of SL.
Makes sense, most people were just burned out on SL at that point
sick sentinel
and then the hover over is getting pulled each time
i dunnno if its sometihng that was featured on TGP or wtf
chilly brook
S4 was genuinely the best thing to come out of SL but the first half of the xpac was just too taxing for me to care anymore
sick sentinel
and they are ninja pulling it expecting i already know
median tulip
Least played was S4 of SL.
I don't think that is likely to be because of the setup of S4; I think that's likely to be because a lot of people were dog fucking tired of SL and weren't playing.
median tulip
S4 was genuinely the best thing to come out of SL but the first half of the xpac...
Agreed on both counts
south zealot
Oh by the way if you had to guess, which season of M+ do you think has been the ...
season 4 bfa
crude notch
I'd agree with your sentiments if S4 BfA wasn't the 2nd most played.
chilly brook
I'd agree with your sentiments *if* S4 BfA wasn't the 2nd most played.
I don’t think BFA was as taxing personally
daring marlin
Most people were prolly like me. Having fun with corruption, geeked for SL and noped out midway SL S2.
chilly brook
It also compounds people were coming off legion, had a bit more patience and then SL happened….
dusky canopy
Bfa S4 that was definitely my favorite so far
crude notch
Yeah S4 BfA made people so hyped for S1 SL. Then turret dive.
south zealot
i think from 9.1.5 onwards shadowlands was a splidbexpansion
median tulip
SoD was the cause of a LOT of player churn in my guild
dusky canopy
Corruption was just so much fun
south zealot
solid expansion
sick sentinel
i'd not be so upset if it weren't an 18 key and fortified bolstering
crude notch
"Coming off legion" BfA s2 was 2nd least played.
chilly brook
i think from 9.1.5 onwards shadowlands was a splidbexpansion
So literally 1/3rd of the xpac was solid
south zealot
s2 was reaping right
south zealot
So literally 1/3rd of the xpac was solid
like 40%ish
crude notch
yea
south zealot
but yeah
south zealot
i didnt play before the xpac before 9.1.5 but from what ive heard covenant and conduit restrictions were omega dogshit
and korthia
chilly brook
"Coming off legion" BfA s2 was 2nd least played.
Legion was regarded as pretty good is what is being said by “coming off of legion”
And bfa S1 also pissed a lot of people off Tbf
chilly brook
GCD changes were kekw
south zealot
strange how not many played it
chilly brook
And s2 didn’t alleviate a lot of complaints
crude notch
We're not talking a little bit either
median tulip
I liked Prideful, but I know a lot of people disagreed
south zealot
i didnt play prideful but i know i would hate it
crude notch
Like the difference in people that played BfA S2 and BfA S4 is doubled
chilly brook
Also I think S4 is notable
median tulip
Whereas I really wasn't a fan of the BfA season 4 pillars affix
dusky canopy
I think prideful could have been better if they simply made them mini bosses placed throughout the dungeon instead of being tied to %
chilly brook
Unpopular opinion I like % based affixes
Not every seasonal affix should be one but I do enjoy them
south zealot
anything that dictates how i can pull is bad
any seasonal affix i should say
i dont really mind bolstering or bursting etc
median tulip
The only affixes I really dislike are Tyrannical and Fortified... that shit got old a very long time ago
chilly brook
anything that dictates how i can pull is bad
Well, you already are typically dictated on how to pull regardless
You have a seasonal route
Pulls that you almost always do
This just adds a bit of variance
crude notch
I wonder how much a pre-established meta impacted number of characters that logged a key in S4 SL
chilly brook
Nyalotha was sick
daring marlin
Corruption was great
dusky canopy
I’d also be in favor of them removing fort and tyr
daring marlin
man fuck xanesh
chilly brook
And second to last boss
daring marlin
I hate that I had to do kicking
chilly brook
But everything else was hype
daring marlin
Only bright side to xanesh was you could just wipe asap
median tulip
I liked the doggy
median tulip
Vexiona was fun too
chilly brook
Raden trinket OWNED
south zealot
shadhar was hella boring
daring marlin
ilgynoth owned
toxic pewter
meanwhile... in df... why do we even have an ingame city/hub.. why doesn't blizzard just have a loader to queue from like valorant or league of legends
median tulip
I never did get the Shield from Il'gynoth
toxic pewter
or even characters.. why even have them
should jsut have loadouts at this point
am I missing something?
crude notch
median tulip
There are lots of people who play Blizz money to just do open world content and maybe dip their toes into Heroic dungeon and LFR once in a while
Is what you're missing
Gotta remember than something like half of all WoW subscribers never do a Mythic dungeon or a Normal raid. Ever.
toxic pewter
wat they doin out there
crude notch
Zetakya is sipping the Apb juice i see
median tulip
The population of people on these class discord and doing keys is actually a minority of the people who pay blizz money
chilly brook
I think an important thing to note here too is that SL season 1 was the start of the GV
toxic pewter
isnt pvp/raid/m+ wat everyone doin tho
median tulip
wat they doin out there
I dunno man, I don't get it either. But it's true
chilly brook
So naturally that will drive up keys completed metric
median tulip
The Great Vault was a genuinely good change
crude notch
I think an important thing to note here too is that SL season 1 was the start of...
Ye it was also like 8 months.
crude notch
That kinda makes DF S1 numbers pretty impressive.
Considering it was 2 months shorter than SL S1 and 4 months shorter than BfA S4.
daring marlin
Seems like S2 gonna be one of the most completed by the end, yes?
crude notch
Most likely, ye
daring marlin
BuT nObOdY iS pLaYiNg
crude notch
That's another thing I noticed looking over the numbers. There was such a weird gap in BfA between like key pushers and vault doers so it messed with what would've been the title numbers.
Because in BfA the weekly "vault" was just from a +10
I think DF S2 might end up being top 3 just from the meta shifting.
BfA S4 i did keys on like 12 toons a week
crude notch
i pushed on bdk in that season lol
toxic pewter
why maintenance 4 hours again tomorrow
modern brook
Tfw my game is maintained :madge:
torn gulch
all the other season values are at the end of the season right?
crude notch
yes that's why DF S2 is highlighted
mighty valley
BFA s4 surprises me... is this just "oh fuck, a pandemic started, time to regress into WoW"
toxic pewter
are those unique characters
torn gulch
you can't know that
toxic pewter
wat u mean
torn gulch
someone might have 10 chars recorde someone might have 3 someone might have 1
you can't separate that
from the data
unless i understood wrong
what you meant
crude notch
you are understanding wrong
toxic pewter
how many persons sitting at some keyboard
mighty valley
no one's claiming this represents number of players
torn gulch
yes it's numbers of unique chars right?
cinder storm
Yes