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warm plinth
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You can just do exile's reach instead of the starting zones, if you didn't know

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it's fast too

round pendant
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Yeah I know

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still, allied races are cool

warm plinth
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true, okay

round pendant
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Was thinking Nightborne

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or Vulpera

sick sentinel
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Vulpera is chad race

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Asian fox

round pendant
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I like nightbornes colours though

crude notch
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Fennec fox indeed.

warm plinth
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Nightborne heritage armor is way better than vulpera too

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if that matters to you

sick sentinel
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Asian fox

round pendant
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much cuter than the vulpera ingame

crude notch
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fennec fox

warm plinth
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I named my nightborne priest Dhalsim keks

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Because NE model has long ass arms

round pendant
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lmao

sick sentinel
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Corsac fox (Asian fox)

crude notch
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100% a vulpera

round pendant
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I just don't like how all the nightborne faces look like middle-aged people

crude notch
warm plinth
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Well they are like

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10k+ years old

sick sentinel
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That's an australian wombat quit lying

warm plinth
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Are you making male or female?

sick sentinel
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This is actually a vulpera

warm plinth
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warm plinth
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Ok, thinking cap activated, stand by

crude notch
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if i just start calling you daddy will people get scared when they randomly see it. @sick sentinel

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it'd be perfect because they don't know your name origin

crude notch
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well i wouldn't be your son

sick sentinel
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I know what race i want in wow

round pendant
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god yes please

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I will pay the $300 required to race change all my chars to clappyblappy

sick sentinel
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I want to be a Prot Capybara Warrior

warm plinth
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Are you a meme name or a fantasy name kinda guy

round pendant
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Indian dish name kinda guy

sick sentinel
round pendant
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my main is called hehe

warm plinth
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I was going to suggest Powerwordyam if you wanted a meme name

sick sentinel
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sick sentinel
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Belteshazzar sounds cool af

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Rub me 3 times and make a wish

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🧞‍♂️

crude notch
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🙅

sick sentinel
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I realized he was talking to yam

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Goodnight guys i go back to sleep

round pendant
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gn

warm plinth
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if you want an Indian dish you could do Tikkamasala

round pendant
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Powerwordyam is a fucking good name

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warm plinth
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lol XD

round pendant
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I also have Keema, Jalfrezi, Biryani

sick sentinel
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Bruh tikkamasla is my classic priest name

round pendant
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lmao

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I'm not original

warm plinth
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LOL

round pendant
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I just like Indian food

warm plinth
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I try to be original with most of my names

sick sentinel
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I like chinese food

warm plinth
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But some are kinda lazy

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e.g. Locksaredumb (which I have two of)

sick sentinel
warm plinth
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That's a good one

sick sentinel
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I'm a gnome too

warm plinth
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You'd have to be XD

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I have a gnome hunter named Huntmaster, which is also their Legion class hall title

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So he's Huntmaster Huntmaster

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His pet is a crab named McCrabberton that always has a shank

sick sentinel
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What is gear update

warm plinth
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It ports you to the major city and gives you level relevant gear

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But be careful if you want to do old content. Some legacy content gets locked like if you did a char boost

sick sentinel
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I feel bad for never levelling this toon

warm plinth
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I don't know what's included in that

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Plus tbh it's wasted on a 27 toon anyway imo. Just use heirlooms

sick sentinel
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Meh i boosted a rogue way back which i still have and played in S1

warm plinth
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I miss when heirlooms gave XP sadge

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@round pendant These are all my toon's names

warm plinth
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no idea, it's stupid af though

round pendant
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good to know my characters I recently levelled are now useless for that

warm plinth
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It's only for 24 hours I think

round pendant
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You need "Pinkydoll"

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ionic fern
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@warm plinth any fast way to lvl from 60-70 right now?

round pendant
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Timewalking rn I think

ionic fern
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Mmmmmmm

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I need to lvl a healer.

round pendant
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Timewalking is what I'd do

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just hope you don't get slow tanks

ionic fern
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Je.

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Should be fast queues as healer.

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Hopefully.

crude notch
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If I was EU i'd queue with you

warm plinth
crude notch
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I just spam TW, my concentration is too poop to focus on questing

lavish sphinx
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I don't know why I just sat in Def Stance before... timings keys way more easily in Battle and just bumped my 19 to a 20 for the first time

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Thanks for answering my dumb questions guys

crude notch
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yw that's why they pay mwahi the big bucks

warm plinth
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We specialize in dumb questions

crude notch
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i specialize in being dumb

torn gulch
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like 100k?

ionic fern
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What are they boosting in?

torn gulch
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brackenhide area

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you stay on the spot and they kill elites around you

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not in the dungeon outside it

sick sentinel
crude notch
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you can get 400k xp from that max.

sick sentinel
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Yeah but still good

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50% xp buff week was crazy with it

torn gulch
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Blizzard has recently capped the total xp you can gain from crafting professions to 700k xp 400k per character, but this is still enough for 2-3 1½ levels and it is somewhat cheap and takes very, very little effort and it can be done in ~10 minutes.

sick sentinel
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Got nerfed

torn gulch
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1.5 levels

sick sentinel
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Yeah still good tho

torn gulch
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yes

crude notch
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No one is saying it's bad

sick sentinel
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Do it while queuing TW

torn gulch
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but if you have the gold you can do 60-70 in 1.5h at most

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but again with TW it's pretty fast

ionic fern
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Mhm.

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Now to think which healer to lvl.

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What is the least FOTM atm?

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Outside of MW.

sick sentinel
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Holy priest lol

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Or evoker healer tbh

torn gulch
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play MW so you can punch people and heal

sick sentinel
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I had a Holypaladin MW he was a god

torn gulch
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HAHAHAHA

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trying to game the meta

sick sentinel
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Even had CR i think what a chad

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True Holy Monk

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OKAY

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my name is powerwordyam and I'm here to jam

chilly brook
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How tf do you play healers tho

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You just DPS your teammates right

sick sentinel
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But in serious if you play disc, Just dps keep up attonement and dps, Look how to use your cds and know when damage is coming

warm plinth
round pendant
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it's gonna be weird to learn this

sick sentinel
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Disc is fun af

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But you want mouseover macros which are now in the UI which is cool

round pendant
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learning new chars is kinda hard when you're a no actionbar andy like me

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Keep forgetting what keys my abilities are on

sick sentinel
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I got mouseovers too

round pendant
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I really despise Luxthos and Afenar WAs

sick sentinel
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I had a good one but gotta find it

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As i dont play it anymore

round pendant
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Smite is actually used?

sick sentinel
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Yeah

round pendant
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yeah I definitely need mouseover stuff

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tried to heal myself

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healed a random teammate I was targetting

lavish sphinx
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My main alt is H Priest and she’s going just fine. PI, flexible enough to account for pug’s fucking around and awesome in raid

sick sentinel
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Yeah Holy is not bad at all, disc is a lot harder in comparison and it's easier to tell difference between a bad/good disc. Holy is better if new to healing, disc is more rewarding

crude notch
sick sentinel
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Go away jordan

forest hinge
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Hey, I was looking for advice. I recently started playing prot in preparation for the next tier and while tanking the mega dungeon the last boss absolutely shreds me. Is there something I'm missing or is it just a bad fight for warrior??

ionic fern
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Anything that has constant magic/bleed damage is a fairly bad fight for new warriors.

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Rotating defensives, asking your healer for externals, pushing more Rage into IP.

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Ontop of your regular proper rotation to feed the Rage loop and keeping SB up.

forest hinge
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I believe I'm doing most of those things correctly but even at 440 ilvl it just feels like I'm at the healer's mercy more than anything

cerulean tusk
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Your job is to mitigate the damage, healers job is to heal the nonmitigated damage. If you want to play a sologame, BDK is the choice noahwhite

jagged pier
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If u have logs we can check if u your doing things correctly

neat blaze
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good morning warriors! for this week of m+ is better talent brutal vitality to maximize ignore pain or fuled by violence to get extra healing from deep wuond?

ionic fern
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Good morning Luigi,
Little known secret - it won't matter.

round pendant
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If the healer sucks you'll have a bad time

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Might want to camp def stance for that boss

toxic pewter
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Should let us use 2h

neat blaze
ionic fern
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Unironically i specced fury and had a 2h and shield equipped at the same time.

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Looked cool af.

toxic pewter
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Yeah I want to do that

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Blizzard should allow it

round pendant
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would be nice

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could be a capstone talent or something

toxic pewter
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Think it would bring a nice breath of fresh air to prot

lime urchin
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2h whirlwind tanking?

toxic pewter
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Yah we should also have bladestorm

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god I wish

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Though I think it'd be kinda bad for prot

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Since you're locked out of pressing anything during it

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Well actually you can still press oGCD stuff

toxic pewter
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Can make it so we can block still and use certain defensives

round pendant
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cross realm trading doesn't let you mail gold? lame

toxic pewter
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Yeah pretty lame

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Effectively need a middle man to trade gold to your own characters lol

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Just another awful, half-assed implementation by blizz

sick sentinel
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Why make gold sellers lives easier

toxic pewter
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? If they cared about that they would never of implemented it to begin with

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Everyone sees these half-measures and applauds.. meanwhile I’m like uhhh maybe just do it right if you are going to do it all? Lmao

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Also, blizzard is the largest recipient of all the assets resulting from gold selling for real money and shit do not ever forget that

sick sentinel
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Gms are corrupt?

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Wait what GMs

toxic pewter
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All roads lead to blizzard in the end

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Meanwhile it’s actually making normal rule abiding players lives more difficult when just enabling mailing would be fine as the rmt gold people transfer/launder their gold with ease anyway

remote venture
sick sentinel
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Ok i came to the conclusion with NL i suck

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Someone said i can reflect every toxic spit

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Lies

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Sunder is annoying af

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And molten crash happens when i have 1s CD left so i miss one

strong forum
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cant do every toxic retch

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only every other

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only sometimes back to back

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sunder you gotta pre-cast sometimes, and molten crash you also gotta use a tad early to snipe some of them back to back

sick sentinel
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Sunder seems to happen when im on GCD and raid timelines is a lie

strong forum
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well

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SR is off-gcd

sick sentinel
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Well i press it and nothing

strong forum
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just need faster fingers

sick sentinel
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Also does he sunder always after guess the totem?

strong forum
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ye

sick sentinel
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Ok imma about to have 50+ timed 17s NL runs of me just practicing

strong forum
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thats about 49 more than ive tanked

sick sentinel
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Also pelters are annoying af, I miss grip 😦

strong forum
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pelters jump away if you target them

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so if you cleave onto them from another target, they shouldnt jump(as much)

sick sentinel
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Hmm

strong forum
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you can also kinda bait them into a direction if you target them

sick sentinel
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I had them jump into breaker group right side of green golem

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Yeah i tried to get it to jump away 😦

strong forum
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they jump away from you, so if you face into the wall, they should also jump in that direction

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atleast thats my experience with em

sick sentinel
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I had my back to that pack though and it still jumped there

strong forum
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unlugg

sick sentinel
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DK i just grip

round pendant
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wtf Disc is fun

sick sentinel
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I told you

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Heres a tip for burst healing, PTW (Also goes to 2nd target) Use shadow word execute to do burst healing with a MB, It uses up like 5 seconds of duration fyi

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PTW, Radiance thing > Shadow pain (Exec) > mb > ptw > Shadow shit > Schism > Radiance (pref before) > Then pennance (Will be dark reprimand) > Halo > PTW refresh, MB with PTW (Exec too) smite when things off cd and for dps ST pref

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Huge heals

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I kept everyone full health on forge boss cause im a beast

round pendant
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PTW?

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I'm only level 20 lmao

sick sentinel
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Purge the wicked

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Ah

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Well save my info

round pendant
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I just let a DK tank die because I forgot to use flash heal

sick sentinel
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???

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Its a DK

round pendant
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I pressed shield and the mobs insta killed it

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yeah

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he's bad

sick sentinel
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They should heal themselves

round pendant
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I was like ok he'll prob just death strike now- dead

sick sentinel
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Only shield them, cant help attonement healing

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Sorry Nom i know prot channel

strong forum
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not like theres anything else going on

sick sentinel
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True, This channel seems dead this season sadge

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Evoker in my NL said "Never seen prot warr this season"

round pendant
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season's basically over so

strong forum
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most channels are, of classes that arent fotm

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a season hasnt been this dominantly one sided

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even SL was THIS bad

sick sentinel
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I miss season 1 prot although i didnt play it much

round pendant
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Honestly I get better advice on other classes in this discord compared to other classes actual discords lmao

sick sentinel
ionic fern
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Go to that classes discord and you have 10% of people who know what they are talking about followed by 50% of wannabe's followed by 40% of stalkers.

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And they all argue with eachother.

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MUch like we do here.

sick sentinel
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I said in hunter discord "Maybe look at top 10 players in M+ and see what trinkets they use" I then got called out 😦 I wasn't giving afdvice just a tip cause it's what i do to see what to use in each dungeon or whatever

ionic fern
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See, if you say that in here you'd get smacked.

sick sentinel
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Why tho not like it's bad advice

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Well

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I dunno

toxic pewter
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O_O

sick sentinel
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I look at top 10 prots i see Beacon/Dargrul

echo egret
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I saw some people talking about a +31 NL with a prot warrior, can I find the video somewhere ?

toxic pewter
ionic fern
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Various reasons:
1)99.9% of the players are not doing the content that top 10 are doing.
2)If there any any active trinkets you can bet your ass that people will forget to use them / use them ineffeciently.
3)People might log out in random gear which will reflect in r.io.

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Just to name a few.

sick sentinel
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Ok yeah as you put it like that makes sense

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NGl i do use Murlok.io and see various gear but thats just me, I run sims ofc

round pendant
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As with any advice like that, it's fine as long as people consider the caveats

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most people won't tho

sick sentinel
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I'm bad and i know it, Take what i say with salt okayge

round pendant
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Top logs are decent if you see a common trend

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but if the #1 guy is using some weird trinket then I wouldn't pay attention to it

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prob some niche use

ionic fern
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Just see what Sense is doing

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And do the same.

dusky canopy
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Yee was about to type that too lol

sick sentinel
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I think Murlok.io is ok but I don't follow it exactly, just a guideline imo

dusky canopy
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Sense is thee man

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Considered best Prot warrior in the game

jagged pier
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its okay but like subcreation it just gives u what is popular f

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but for a smaller player pool

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and give no other context

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or advice

sick sentinel
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Yeah subcreation is popularity

jagged pier
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so is murlok

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it just uses top 50

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instead of everyone

sick sentinel
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Yeah but you can at least click on players ect

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But meh

dusky canopy
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Isn’t it weird that F tier specs have done 26s?

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That should be impossible

sick sentinel
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Bruh people forget before augs 26s were being pushed with "non meta"

jagged pier
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well someone the other day was saying we are unviable because we were f tier

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yet a paladin hadnt done a 29

sick sentinel
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BS

jagged pier
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and

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where a higher tier

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it was subcreation so popularity

dusky canopy
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Oh yeah we have fun with those comments

jagged pier
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and they were taking it as gosbal

round pendant
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I fucking hate subcreation for that reason

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It's in F tier so it must be literally unplayable?

sick sentinel
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Screw subcreation fanboys

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For example BDK was like D tier for raid

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When it's self sufficent and you don't need to heal them

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That's S tier

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Healers can focus on other stuff

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But you bring UH then BDK does become useless cause only need 1-2 AMZ

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Or at least they think that

dusky canopy
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As an example, The highest rated player of X class could start using something that’s considered “bad” but because it shows them using it on the top of leaderboard a lot of people below them will start using it too

jagged pier
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^

sick sentinel
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Player > Meta class wicked

dusky canopy
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Witch causes sights like subcreation to provide bad information

sick sentinel
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Would you like to sign my petition to close subcreation?

round pendant
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Nah

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Just people need to stop taking it as gospel

jagged pier
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i feel like the sights just need to be a bit more open about what the data actually represents, but still it can be deasent as a starting point and then u can ask why x is take x talent or why warriors are taking x etc. but thats like guides guides are a starting point not an end all and be all

sick sentinel
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And people need to stop thinking F = bad, it just means top few hundred do not play it

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Misinformation website

ionic fern
sick sentinel
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For once I think wowhead tierlist is better

jagged pier
sick sentinel
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And atleast they say why it's in what tier

dusky canopy
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Personally, I like using the data as a point of reference. But like it’s been said don’t take it as the defacto choice in all things. It’s just one form of information, you should gather information from multiple sources and use your best discretion to make choices based on that.

sick sentinel
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What if i put it like this, A 3k prot warr + a 3k guard druid + 3k prot pala signs to your key. Prot war has 100+ timed, Pala 40+, Guard druid 30+, Who do you pick?

jagged pier
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i would pick which ever signed first

ionic fern
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PROT WARRIOR

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I'm biased tho.

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
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Ofc group composition matters slightly but meh

ionic fern
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And i want to secretly evalute how they play

dusky canopy
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Pick what you want to play of course

ionic fern
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I always pick Prot warriors for my groups tho.

dusky canopy
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That’s the point of video games

ionic fern
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Just because they run the wildest things.

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ANd then they argue with me.

sick sentinel
ionic fern
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Fun time for everyone.

dusky canopy
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Prot owns!

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
dusky canopy
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Prot warrior has the most exp in that scenario

ionic fern
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People who don't re-roll every time something becomes FOTM are great at their class..big surprise, i know.

dusky canopy
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Who’d a thunk

sick sentinel
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I started as rogue > went to pala ret/prot (Played prot S1) > went DK > Now i main warrior

sick sentinel
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Screw meta i play what i like

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Too many rets so i quit that like week 4

dusky canopy
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Doing 23s as arms this season

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that should be impossible

ionic fern
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I play prot because i cba waiting for queue times as a DPS for keys.

dusky canopy
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We’re the worst melee spec according to the data

sick sentinel
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Fury no get picked

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But if i do the group slacks and plays bad

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And i do not get picked

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I like to think i have a brain

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But they see 442 warrior they say no

remote venture
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If you are able to do well on 20 with worst meta spec, are you just a good player? 🤔

ionic fern
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You did not do good in the key unless the DPS/healer whispers you afterwards.

dusky canopy
waxen frigate
grim pilot
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Unholy, ww(?)

torn gulch
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worse than ww?

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nop way

grim pilot
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Arms is decent

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Its just

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Enha is giga rog is pretty huge

waxen frigate
torn gulch
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kek

grim pilot
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Subcreation put arms as highest anyway

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And its popularity contest anyway

waxen frigate
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Yea that’s why I was asking

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Wtf is this “data”

toxic pewter
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Arms owns right now

waxen frigate
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Arms is in a good spot

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Assa is prob the worst

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Or feral

grim pilot
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Feral huge wdym

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Feral is really good now

waxen frigate
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Oh right didn’t they get buffed

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Nvm then

grim pilot
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Even before buff they were decent ish

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Its just they are overshadowed by boomie

waxen frigate
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As is tradition

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Feral has to be beyond broken to be better than boomie

grim pilot
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But 7,5% buff is HUGE

mortal dagger
# strong forum ye

No, he s not. If it ll be hands in q and he went in the totem he ll use hands 1st after u ll guess the totem, so u ll lose prereflect

waxen frigate
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Ya I forgot about the buff for sure

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I haven’t played a lot since the mid patch

grim pilot
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Dont bother

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Unless some 20’s or something 4 fun

waxen frigate
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Ya I’m playing a new mage alt

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But back to my original point

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Assa is def the worst melee imo

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Outlaw down there too

grim pilot
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I started sp Pepexecute

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After im back from vacation full reroll

waxen frigate
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Tbh I’m mostly just focused on other games

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I do a key a week on my monk, then play classic on Ret pally and single player stuff

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BG3 this week yep

mortal dagger
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Soz wrong guy ping

sick sentinel
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ill probably post a log in a few minutes like under 30 for that 18 fh key we somehow depleted

toxic pewter
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he does cast sunder immediately after the first guess the totem phase but if you get a 2nd guess the totem phase he does not actually sunder immediately after that one

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based on what I remember and I did 60ish runs

sick sentinel
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like, one thing was, we didnt lust on thw first giga pull, and then on 2nd boss hunter died literal 3 times

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after ring pf booty warlock ass pulled all 3 groups

dusky canopy
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@grim pilot @waxen frigate just memeing I didn’t look anywhere before saying that

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I am surprised arms would be higher than WW though

sick sentinel
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i wonder qhat his name ia about now

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with heroic throw

dusky canopy
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Sin down real bad

grim pilot
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Check 25+ or 20+ for real class population imo

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Well with 25+ ignore obvious 3 specs I mean

dusky canopy
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Yeee

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Sin hasn’t done a 25?

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Oh shit

torn gulch
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assa you mean

grim pilot
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0,6% is what, 2 unholys? Kekw

dusky canopy
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No I mean ass rogue

dusky canopy
torn gulch
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2 unholy

dusky canopy
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Lmao

torn gulch
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yep

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survival more than arms, feral and both dk specs

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year of the spear baby

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oh you can do post 10.1.5

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that's the real data

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58.1 guardian
21.6 vengeance
8.3 prot pala
6.5 prot dk
3.7 brewmaster
1.8 prot warr

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it is what it is

dusky canopy
grim pilot
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Hpal is like 80% post 10.1.5.

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Thats fucking crazy

torn gulch
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75% on over 25's

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then next is shaman at 7.7% kekw

grim pilot
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Is there any real time data on how many specs are in the cutoff rn

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Like exact stuff

torn gulch
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i had a tweet

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a couple of days ago

grim pilot
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Ye but it was like 2 weeks ago or sth

torn gulch
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need to find it again

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well there is no real time data like that

grim pilot
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Couple days ago was when I was in the cutoff 😡

torn gulch
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europe is at over 3.4k

#

it's insane

grim pilot
#

Taiwan is insane

torn gulch
#

yea but there are like 200 peeps in the cutoff there

#

plus all the good chinese players are there as well now

grim pilot
#

Y but still

#

3.5+

torn gulch
#

gamers

#

pumping keys all day every day

dusky canopy
#

@crude notch is goated at that kind of data

#

I believe last time that data was shown here it was only the “exodia” specs or whatever nonsense people call it

torn gulch
#

the 3 forbidden dps specs make 65.3% of all the dps in over 25's in 10.1.5

torn gulch
#

that's the data

strong forum
#

last time i checked

#

it was closer to 90%

torn gulch
#

again

#

that is the data

strong forum
#

link

torn gulch
strong forum
#

ah they gave new bracket

torn gulch
#

yeah i took post 10.1.5 as that is the most accurate to the curent situation

strong forum
#

2 weeks ago within titile range 90% of all dps was the fotm group

#

but title range =/= 25s

torn gulch
#

yea title range is higher now

strong forum
#

with all 27s done you should be safeish

dusky canopy
#

Dislike that ALOT

torn gulch
#

it's like all 26's

strong forum
#

projection is ~3.5k for title

torn gulch
#

at the moment

#

so all 27's

#

more or less

strong forum
#

ye

#

unless more and more people reroll to fotm comp

#

and push

#

then itll obv rise even higher

#

if last seasons are any indication, i reckon its gonna end up at like 3550

dusky canopy
#

Unless they make those classes numbers just piss, idk how else they would stop the synergy they have

torn gulch
#

i have a feeling that if aug was not pushed like this in 10.1.5 we wouldn't have had this problem

strong forum
#

cuz last 2 weeks are always quite a rise to the cap

#

ye aug added +2 levels

dusky canopy
#

Heard

#

True

#

Real

#

When!?

strong forum
#

10.2 tiersets

torn gulch
#

in my opinion the introduction of aug in the current form completely ruined the season

strong forum
#

will be the decider

strong forum
torn gulch
#

or at the same time

strong forum
#

to cement the 1-1-1-2 meta

#

and give you options

dusky canopy
#

Support that supports melee better would be cool

torn gulch
#

could've delayed aug until 11.0

#

and make some more support specs

#

not in a subpatch and only one spec

modern brook
#

Releasing Aug mis season then nerfing it after it broke the game for two weeks is what ruined it

strong forum
#

the nerfs didnt do anything

#

in terms of possible keylevels

#

its people overstressing bullshit

torn gulch
#

they literally threw 30 specs to the trash can in m+

strong forum
#

anybody who says that "because they nerfed the meta comp classes, the keys done before that window arent achievable anymore and season is done"

#

is full on coping

dusky canopy
#

The limiting factor is surviving now right it’s still not limited by damage?

strong forum
#

yup

dusky canopy
#

Witch makes the nerf irrelevant

strong forum
#

the only key

#

thats limited by DPS

#

is VP

#

even in a perfectly clean run, people have only timed 28 with 1min left

grim pilot
strong forum
strong forum
#

all the same

#

they jumped alot of points during the last 2 weeks

grim pilot
#

Lots of people got ce very late

toxic pewter
#

someone just called prot warr OP LOL

torn gulch
#

echo timing 29 vp to win grand finals i said it first

grim pilot
#

Now its early

strong forum
#

people tryna push for title

#

itll always be like that

#

same for r1 arena title

grim pilot
#

Y but now it wont be 3550

strong forum
#

who said now

grim pilot
#

I reckon 3520 tops

strong forum
#

i said at the end

#

projection is 3509 iirc

#

with a steady increase

#

but its not a steady increase the last 2 weeks

#

thats when alot of people buy title and stuff

toxic pewter
#

wait

#

people buy the title?

strong forum
#

ofc

torn gulch
#

oh yeah

toxic pewter
#

wat

torn gulch
#

40 mill full title carry

grim pilot
#

Is it doable this season to buu the title

toxic pewter
#

????

grim pilot
#

Like

#

Its different

#

With aug

strong forum
#

arty is doing it right now

#

lol

toxic pewter
#

thats wild, like obviouly I am not surprised by this but didnt realize it

#

I am so out of touch

strong forum
#

people have been buying title, same as glad title

#

since they exist

#

same goes for CE

torn gulch
#

so for 40 million a team carries you over the line and keeps you over the line

toxic pewter
#

40 mill jeeze

torn gulch
#

of course you have to pull your weight

toxic pewter
#

ya

grim pilot
#

40m is scary

toxic pewter
#

thats actually a lot of irl money lmao

torn gulch
#

people either buy like a key for 3 to 5 mill

toxic pewter
#

according to my random crappy calulcations thats lik 2.5k dollars

torn gulch
#

or the whole pachage

grim pilot
#

Thats like 1.3k if you buy wow tokens

#

For that gold

strong forum
#

yeah but almost none of the whales buy gold

torn gulch
#

they make it

#

from crafting

strong forum
#

they accumulate it through play/boosting/advertising/transferring

grim pilot
#

Y lots of shit

torn gulch
#

or boosting other things

strong forum
#

especially now

#

since gold trading is region wide

#

boosting got alot easier

#

and whaling

torn gulch
#

a guy can boost m+ like crazy

#

and pay for a couple of keys fot title

#

etc tec

strong forum
#

iirc advertisers make more gold

#

than the boosters

#

if you get alot of people

toxic pewter
#

do people still buy gold outside of the wow token

strong forum
#

ofc

torn gulch
#

yea but the chance that an advertiser is good enough to pull it's own weight in title boosts is much lower

strong forum
#

but only desperate people

toxic pewter
#

i guess its cheaper but more risky

strong forum
#

cuz i aint risking my account just to have a better conversion

toxic pewter
#

I imagine

#

yea

torn gulch
#

g2g

#

kek

strong forum
#

and iirc its not even THAT much better

toxic pewter
#

yeah seems kinda dumb to purchase gold outside of wow token at this point imo at least

torn gulch
#

i still have gold from legion tables

#

and SL tables

strong forum
#

i never did tables

#

fuck that

#

hated those pieces of shit

#

glad its gone

grim pilot
#

Well unless you wanna buy millions of gold better buy tokens I guess

#

And whats the point of buying millions

strong forum
#

there isnt

sick sentinel
#

there is failed 18fh

strong forum
#

millions of gold serve no purpose in wow, the only gold you spend is for consumes and enchants, rest is just luxury

torn gulch
#

that's a good bm hunter

crystal mauve
torn gulch
#

already

sick sentinel
#

there is multiple points i could point to i can think of i/we might have failed the key

#

myself mistakes and others mistakes included

strong forum
#

yogi getting big

#

94% key parse

toxic pewter
#

wtf... yogi doing 18s now?

#

that is badass..

torn gulch
#

your dps's dps is pants

strong forum
#

dps isnt the issue

#

the 20deaths

#

more the issue

sick sentinel
#

probably didnt help i tried to bacon 3rd crusher

strong forum
#

hunter died 3x on 2nd boss

#

thats alot of wasted time

sick sentinel
#

moments before disaster

strong forum
#

and just before last boss nobody stopped squall

#

costing several minutes of time right there

grim pilot
sick sentinel
#

we all sort of stopped to ask if hunter was alive and awake

#

after 2nd boss

grim pilot
#

35% cuts so say you get a guy that wants +20 world tour

#

And you get 5 more people within an hour

toxic pewter
#

or the ones in trade chat you mean or what

grim pilot
#

Trade chat

#

Group finder? Lol

#

Who tf does that

toxic pewter
#

they are listed in there i see them a lot

grim pilot
#

Ive never seen one

torn gulch
#

the rmt ones

grim pilot
#

Lvl boost sure but not key boost

torn gulch
#

are there a lot

sick sentinel
#

after returning to wow in bfa i have never once paid for a dungeon or raid carry

#

not that i had before that either

grim pilot
#

Raid carry not the worst thing in the world if you find cheap

#

I havent bought one

#

But its free token + some vault shit last minute + maybe some items

#

I know a guy that paid 150 got 4set + ashk + some other shit

sick sentinel
#

I got one sark boost after I pugged it 4 times cause pugs are painful, I was alive whole fight where the other boostees all died at start lol

grim pilot
#

If you hate gearing

sick sentinel
#

one of my IRL friends in wrath, he went to naxx randomly one night and got immortal

#

so, i suspect he might have paid for it

#

Especially if you've already got curve multiple times

#

Saves time

#

but i never questioned him on it and its been 12 years now

#

If you pay for m+ carries then I judge you

toxic pewter
#

I still want to do the new megadungeon hard mode

dusky canopy
#

The purpose of millions of gold in wow is to buy boosts for things you otherwise couldn’t do yourself, or random BMAH un obtainable items

sick sentinel
#

i still have yet to do it deathless

#

i might start buyting more wow gold for um er... its difficult to explain the timing but mid raid tier

#

I have like 300k gold

#

the boe shit comes down in price, start of raid tier and after that nobody runs the content or everyone wants it anyways, so the price is elevated at that time

#

I only do raid and m+

#

like there is a helmet i want, but the dude is charging 400k

#

Meh

#

i could have probably got it for 200k during the raid time

#

If you buy boe buy helmet with socket make it tier expensive but still

grim pilot
sick sentinel
#

i want it for the transmog lol

#

Oh

grim pilot
#

Went back to 250 and started boosting again

#

Gold just goes soooo faaast

sick sentinel
#

I wouldn't mind boosting people for gold cause what else is there to do

dusky canopy
#

Yeah I boost my way to a mil and then pretty much only buy consumes, crafts, and repairs

#

When I get low I do it again

grim pilot
#

Lvl boost an alt + dracothysts + flavor pocket + gems enchants repairs and by the time youre 440 its -500k

sick sentinel
#

I did some in classic but stopped after gold banwaves + I got banned receiving gold in GDKP

#

So I don't trust where people get gold from

#

that reminds me

sick sentinel
#

i need to buy a dracothyst incase they go up on tuesday

dusky canopy
plush tendon
#

I like boosting; lets me more easily role play as a mercenary

round pendant
#

damn I should get in on that

dusky canopy
#

Yes yam if you’re able too it’s very easy gold

#

People will buy convenience

#

So you target any of those markets

grim pilot
#

Now there is no gold in boosting btw

#

16s are like 18k or sth

#

20s are below 40

dusky canopy
#

True yes

round pendant
grim pilot
#

Might start boosting 23’s otherwise its just dull

plush tendon
#

boosting is easy gold early in the tier

grim pilot
#

Its shit gold at the end of s1 and now apparently

#

since nobody needs 20’s

#

Except for portals

plush tendon
#

but its also a easy way to get weekly keys done and make a little cash on the side

grim pilot
#

If you can skip all the team takes 🤡

#

In +16

plush tendon
#

team takes?

grim pilot
#

Swear to god there should be a team take ban in +16

#

Yes

#

Premades getting the boosts

#

High prio over pugs

#

Aka ffa runners

plush tendon
#

oh, i run with a team

grim pilot
#

😠

plush tendon
#

I wouldnt boost without my bois

grim pilot
#

Though its annoying when you get into voice and the guys cant even speak english

#

And you cant leave

round pendant
#

I remember boosting +16s (or was it 15 back then?) in legion

#

easiest gold of my life

dusky canopy
#

Idk how competitive the prices are I haven’t done dungeon boosts this season

round pendant
#

120k for a +16?

#

just do 4 of those a week and you pay for everything + get your vault

dusky canopy
#

Well the trick is getting into a sale run

#

Because it’s basically a lottery if you get picked or not

lusty grotto
#

disgusting

#

fucking advertisers in lfg

#

brw

#

im so ashamed

dusky canopy
#

You have to spend a lot of time trying to get in

#

Lmao nim

lusty grotto
#

im serious

dusky canopy
#

I’m not advertising

#

He is asking about it

lusty grotto
#

yeah but youre part of the problem

round pendant
#

I mean, when I boosted in Legion I just did it with my friends

dusky canopy
#

I’m informing

lusty grotto
#

because you know these servers are advertising, if only they did it correctly

#

i literally report communication on every single one when i look for groups

dusky canopy
#

Yeah they sit in lfg and services chat and spam all day

lusty grotto
#

every time

#

fuck em

dusky canopy
#

Nim dont worry I do exactly that too

#

I hate all the lfg advertisements

round pendant
#

Where are you supposed to advertise yer boosting services

grim pilot
#

In trade chat

lusty grotto
#

no

grim pilot
#

Advertisers get 35%

lusty grotto
#

there's a new channel for it

grim pilot
#

Well service

#

Ye same shit

dusky canopy
#

I don’t mind advertising in services channel

#

But lfg I do not* like at all

round pendant
#

I wouldn't use some sketchy fucking discord server for boosting people

#

I'd just run my own groups with my friends

dusky canopy
#

Especially the RMT ones

round pendant
#

at least that's what I did in Legion

dusky canopy
#

Fucking RMT man

lusty grotto
#

yeah the problem with those discords is YOU know they dabble in RMT

#

every single fucking one

#

there's no exceptions

plush tendon
#

god, but they are so convienent

#

the benefit of doing it by yourself with a group though is you get repeat buyers

grim pilot
#

People who buy boosts do it via discord

#

And via advertisers they know

dusky canopy
#

Yeah I mean hate it all you want but it’s easy as hell gold so as long as it’s an option it would be stupid not to capitalize on it

plush tendon
#

used to have a little schedule for our boosts for our regulars

#

was fantastic

dusky canopy
#

Unless you enjoy spending irl currency on gold

#

Or wasting 100s of hours farming the real way

lusty grotto
#

ive sold runs before

#

pre SL

round pendant
#

It feels fucking brutal to make gold nowadays via intended methods

lusty grotto
#

we capitalized on it

#

but its just not something i support nowadays

plush tendon
#

I mean, some people enjoy making gold in wow rather then doing the combat-related activities

round pendant
#

and I think it's on purpose, they want you to just buy a token

dusky canopy
#

Yeah I hear that, and I do agree

plush tendon
#

I dont judge, you got gold and want a boost, have at it my dude

dusky canopy
#

If we could flip a switch and have zero boosting in the game

#

Making everyone’s achievements actually valuable

#

I would be for it*

plush tendon
#

destroying my Role Playing Experience

#

😠

round pendant
#

I kinda give up this season

#

it's like 40k per 447 crafted item

#

not even bothering with it

plush tendon
#

my warrior is all done with his crafts ExcitedBlushette

#

446 I level; just got that low I level beacon and mark

lusty grotto
#

40k? its free for me

#

blacksmith/miner and ench/tailor maxed

#

ez

dusky canopy
#

Crafts are very cheap on my server

plush tendon
#

I mean, there is a opportunity cost on the dracothyst

dusky canopy
#

I think I paid like 10k for my engi bracers this last week

round pendant
#

the enchanted aspect crest is like.. 15-20k itself

plush tendon
#

so sure you arent paying for it outright, but the mats you use couldve been gold

lusty grotto
#

i give my spores to my Alch friend, and its gg

round pendant
#

Then you have mats

#

then crafters charge 10-20k

dusky canopy
#

The only people who screw* you are the jewel crafters with there rediculous 10k+ mainstat gem

lusty grotto
#

so look for someone else

#

jesus

dusky canopy
#

Sorry shouldnt use that term(edited^)

lusty grotto
#

my server is dead and peopl dont charge 10k-20k

#

what kind of server are you on

round pendant
#

I am on Draenor and literally there's 1 dude advertising at a given time and they charge over 10k

plush tendon
#

lots of people try to screw you on crafts

lusty grotto
#

have you tried asking in trade

plush tendon
#

if their price is too high.... you dont buy it

lusty grotto
#

instead of going for the one advertiser?

round pendant
#

Yeah I've tried asking and get PMs saying "15k"

dusky canopy
#

Yam homie

round pendant
#

Like dude it's fucked

#

I hate it

#

I don't pay for it

dusky canopy
#

Literally put enchanted aspect crafts in public orders

lusty grotto
#

sounds like bullshit

dusky canopy
#

For 500g

lusty grotto
#

to me

dusky canopy
#

People look for those for skill ups

#

And they will do it

#

Don’t get robbed

round pendant
lusty grotto
#

yup brew

round pendant
#

on the public order

lusty grotto
#

what????

dusky canopy
#

You change the commission to 500

lusty grotto
#

LOL

#

are you serious

round pendant
#

And then why would it get completed?

lusty grotto
#

there's no set commission for public orders

#

he just said why

dusky canopy
#

Because skill ups

lusty grotto
#

the recipe is fucking ridiculously easy to get too

crystal mauve
lusty grotto
#

as soon as my pally got down to Zaralek he got the 2 dumb recipes dropping

dusky canopy
#

Public orders go insanely quick for most crafts because people want skill ups, your item just won’t be rank 3

lusty grotto
#

you screwing yourself yam

round pendant
#

Been like this for the last two days

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

BRO

#

NO REAGENTS?

round pendant
#

oh shit

lusty grotto
#

of course

round pendant
#

that makes sense

dusky canopy
#

Trust me just put it up for 500 with your own reagents

plush tendon
#

whoever takes that is getting cucked

dusky canopy
#

And it’ll be done in less than 30 minutes lol

round pendant
#

yeah that's fine, the mats themselves cost 10-15k tho

crystal mauve
#

make it 2k gold it's the next one to be done for sure

plush tendon
#

people will do work orders just to get weekly done

round pendant
#

didn't realise people could ever put in no reagents tbh

plush tendon
#

regardless of price as long as mats are all there

crystal mauve
#

also I do public order to get the reagents back and craft my shits for free

round pendant
#

Honestly I just saw the autocomplete for 8k and figured people were actually paying that on top of their mats lmao

sick sentinel
#

I provide mats cause meh

plush tendon
#

naw, those guys are scamming

dusky canopy
#

I always provide mats

plush tendon
#

trying to sneak a unsuspecting crafter

sick sentinel
#

I got scammed on slimy boots tho on rogue

#

2 star boots /spit

dusky canopy
#

Nah set min rank to 4

plush tendon
#

always min rank 4

sick sentinel
#

Not on public

crystal mauve
#

You can't set minn rank in public order I think

dusky canopy
#

Unless you’re buying a guaranteed

sick sentinel
#

And people were trying to get me to pay 40k

#

PFTTTTTTTTTTT

plush tendon
#

dude, leatherworkers are rediculous

dusky canopy
#

Well right that’s why you only use public for things that don’t matter

plush tendon
#

no issues with blacksmiths or weapons

dusky canopy
#

Like aspect crafts

sick sentinel
#

For what to them to fly to BH and craft it

#

Take 5k or leave it

plush tendon
#

but leatherworkers had the most people who were like 20k and me being like gtfo

sick sentinel
#

LW are scum

#

Plate crafters are good and so are JC

plush tendon
#

JCs be chill

#

Blacksmiths chill

#

LW, no chill

sick sentinel
#

LW scum /spit

plush tendon
#

and its always a druid LW

#

which just makes it worse

sick sentinel
#

Called some dumb name too

#

Furrypuss "I can craft it for 40k"

#

Growlgrowl "45k"

lusty grotto
#

LW the problem is they have to clear BH

dusky canopy
#

Idk man in my experience JC is what charges the most for there ONE stupid gem

lusty grotto
#

but 20k is fucking excessive for sure

dusky canopy
#

Screw those guys

sick sentinel
#

Pfftt they just lazy

dusky canopy
#

It should be next to free

#

Lmao

sick sentinel
#

I would come clear it for them

lusty grotto
#

my brother does it for 5k min

plush tendon
#

I can understand for the BH stuff

lusty grotto
#

anything less than that and its like "no thanks i have to clear BH for it"

plush tendon
#

charging a premium

sick sentinel
#

Only have to kill first boss

#

Thats it

#

Invis rest

lusty grotto
#

yeah but time is money

plush tendon
#

its still more annoying then what everyone else has to do

lusty grotto
#

the fuck am i gonna clear some dumb shit m0 for less than 5k

dusky canopy
#

Literally bought a primary/mastery gem last week and it cost me 10k

sick sentinel
#

Stardruid "45k guaranteed rank 5"

dusky canopy
#

RIP OFF

plush tendon
#

gotta leave Valdrakken, fly my ass all the way to the walrus, and then go into a dungeon for some booties?

#

GTFO

sick sentinel
#

Pussinboots "Yeah I can craft 100k no problem rank 5 first try"

lusty grotto
#

i could be doing keys

#

or playing other games

plush tendon
#

I could be doing laps around Valdrakken

#

or go back to Oribos and do laps there

sick sentinel
#

This what they look like IRL btw

lusty grotto
#

i mean thats on you

dusky canopy
#

Paying for someone’s time is pretty much the only thing I can respect when it comes to crafts

sick sentinel
#

Average druid player LW

lusty grotto
#

i log in to do something i dont log in to clear an m0 for free

dusky canopy
#

Anything that’s overpriced because they simply got lucky and have the pattern is BS imo

lusty grotto
#

thats just supply and demand

sick sentinel
#

I mean I would pay 15k max and clear dg for them idc but 40k pfttt

dusky canopy
#

True I get that

lusty grotto
#

i do sporecloak for any price i dont really care

#

if i had to clear some random shit dungeon though i would put a min price

sick sentinel
#

Actually i remember a DH said 11k to me and he did it rank 5

#

That was on my druid

round pendant
#

Man

sick sentinel
#

I forgot about that guy

round pendant
#

I've NEVER gotten a flavour pocket

sick sentinel
#

What a chad

toxic pewter
#

ngl once you go flavor pocket its hard to go back

dusky canopy
#

I will pay extra for a guaranteed craft so that my time isn’t wasted

toxic pewter
#

such a great quality of life

round pendant
#

I mean never got one as a drop

lusty grotto
#

i only got the one, and i did that feast with 6 alts

round pendant
#

from the soup

lusty grotto
#

so my pally has no flavor pocket

dusky canopy
#

It’s bad enough I have to buy that mats once

lusty grotto
#

🙂

dusky canopy
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Lol

sick sentinel
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I never used flavour pocket

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I like to eat