protection

[lusty grotto]

im in it right now

[iron shuttle]

I hate the amount of dsync there is with players, people sliding all around

[sick sentinel]

i just, cannot fucking at all for the life of me

care about any part of it

every time i try, i just afk or struggle on some lvl 5 quest

[lusty tiger]

no dps meters no cool

[iron shuttle]

Wow needs to steal how ff14 telegraphs mechanics

Enough stupid ass swirlies on the ground

[sick sentinel]

nah swirls makes sense to me now

[lusty grotto]

what you mean

[sick sentinel]

lets not change what works

[lusty tiger]

ur PUMPIN

[lusty grotto]

not really

[lusty tiger]

what.... job??? are u

[lusty grotto]

w'ere progging

[iron shuttle]

What's the FF14 equivalent to 130kdps

[lusty grotto]

at the top end as SAM i should be doing 13k with bis loot

but im far from bis loot

[lusty tiger]

secret agent man?

[lusty grotto]

probably more if i have a dancer

[iron shuttle]

Mmmmm I like that, smaller numbers feel so much better

[sick sentinel]

surface to air missile

[lusty grotto]

SAM is also the more warrior-like job

[sick sentinel]

launched from the ground to take out planes and such

[lusty tiger]

ahh

Surely Armored More

[lusty grotto]

but dps

Samurai

[iron shuttle]

You telling me Sam is more warrior than marauder

[lusty grotto]

as dps

yes

WAR is more like BDK

self healing out of the wazoo

i was black mage up to this point

well this tier

but fights became so stupidly mobile that even with instant casts given to us its unbearable if you dont get mechanics to align with your placement

[iron shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-fat-cat-gif-25641116

Thank you for the help tonight gents. Goodnight

[warm plinth]

o/

[round pendant]

I'm a baaad maan

[south zealot]

Burning Chains no longer affect creatures outside of the Smoldering Barracks.

wast this posted

lmaooo

[mighty valley]

yeah... really weird fix

[warm plinth]

I am wondering if that is just an official post for the fix or if it actually means it won't work on wardens now

Because the wowhead article said wardens could still be hit by the chains (they just couldn't trigger them)

But this implies it won't hit wardens at all, since there aren't any in the barracks

[mighty valley]

either way I feel like it's a weird fix

feels very arbitrary for it to just not affect some enemies

[warm plinth]

Yeah, I agree. I was talking about it yesterday when the original wowhead article was posted. But oh well, fortunately it doesn't affect me since I wasn't using it on mobs outside of that area anyway.

[dusky canopy]

man randomly getting 10k ping 😄

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/elgatitochad-xddd-gif-26143830

[proper roost]

hmm

zero info on what that chain hotfix note means huh

[crude notch]

squishei hasn't tweeted anything either

[restive scroll]

Chargath is still bugged too

[proper roost]

bug dn

wanna play 2v2v2v2? @crude notch

[tawdry perch]

Good morning! Was wondering, if someone could look over my log from +21 uldaman. I havent tanked in a long long while, and decided to jump straight into the deep end by hopping to 21s. I died few times, and probs because i wasnt sure how big i could pull, some pulls could have been bit smaller im sure. But would preciate any pointers, where and what i could improve upon. Got to 2850 as fury, but im stuck now on not getting invites to a keys, and dont have much time to play or wait in quelines. So I decided to try if i could tank my rating a bit higher 😄 Any pointers about gameplay and my gear highly preciated, thanks a lot in advance! https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/p3XZRBj7MwVPAngc#fight=last

[mighty valley]

Hmm, you can be doing better than 80% blocked melee hits

[warm plinth]

Make sure you're not letting mobs hit you in the back. You blocked 90% of hits w/ shield block up which means you had mobs hitting you from behind. You also need to make sure you're prioritizing shield block at all times; you only blocked 80% of melees and you should be 90+. What is your talent build? It's not showing up on the summary page for some reason.

[mighty valley]

Ooh you're overcapping a lot of rage, you can be slamming Ignore Pain a lot more to cycle rage better

[warm plinth]

As far as your deaths go, one was I'm guessing a giga-bolstered geomancer just slamming 400k stone spikes into you. One was chomp (the dot the basilisks put on you); that is one of the most dangerous mobs in the dungeon because they can stack that bleed super fast. Make sure you're rotating your defensives on those; even going into defensive stance is not a bad idea. And the last one looks like maybe the healer didn't dispel you on a timereaver, but you also took some unblocked melees at the end.

[mighty valley]

Yeah, I also can't see your gear or talents in the summary, not sure what happened there

[tawdry perch]

Ok! Great pointers, just what i wanted! Thanks a lot! https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormreaver/Gride . Not sure why you cant see my gear though. Basicly my gear is just from what ive gathered so far, havent done any gemming / enchant switching yet. And my talents are straight from wowhead m+ build

[warm plinth]

ok yeah talents look fine

Are you actually main swapping to prot? Or just playing it on the side?

[tawdry perch]

Yeah noticed bunch of times while in the dungeon, that rage was full and then most likely overdid it and spend everything and didnt have rage enough for other stuff 😛

[mighty valley]

yeah, that's just practice, you kind of know how high your rage gen is and how low you can dump with IP

without starving yourself to where you can't revenge

[warm plinth]

This is also a potential problem. These were your casts with Violent Outburst active (gives you increased damage and rage on the next Shield Slam or Thunder Clap). Most of these should go toward Shield Slam unless you're fighting like 7+ mobs.

[tawdry perch]

Got a tracker for this , but many times i press thunder clap out of a reflex, which is a bad habbit, gotta work on that!

[warm plinth]

Yeah and you won't always be able to hit shield slam so you may have to use it on TC even in single target sometimes. You don't want to just sit there not pressing anything hoping for a shield slam reset

But shield slam should definitely be ahead of TC on that list

[tawdry perch]

Well the idea is definetly give prot a real go, but the idea for this came yesterday, so i didnt do any proper enchanting/redoing stats for crafted gear etc. Gonna do that today

[warm plinth]

Yeah you'd want to at least enchant haste and gem haste/crit

haste/crit for crafted shit too if you're redoing that as well

[mighty valley]

Haste is fine for the dps specs too generally

[warm plinth]

Yeah I assume he's heavy on haste/mastery because I think he said he was a fury main

Which stack haste and mastery

[tawdry perch]

how much haste am i looking for? Í do have plenty of haste gear on bags etc and cause fury been main spec, i got good rings/neck etc with lots of haste

[mighty valley]

It's our favorite stat until really high

Like, you don't need to prio other stats til 7100

But ilvl > all

[tawdry perch]

how about versa vs crit. Was checking the top warriors from raider io, and some has loads, some almost none

yeah ok!

[mighty valley]

Vers and crit are very close typically, in this discord we like crit because it usually has the damage edge

and parry is very relevant in m+

[lost nymph]

Weeeelp. Looks like I have a lot of recruiting to do

Recrafting*

[mighty valley]

what have you done

[lost nymph]

I just started prot last Thursday. All my crafted gear is haste vers lmao

[jagged pier]

No u dont, if u dont want too it barely matters 99.9% comes from play.

[mighty valley]

yeah that's fine, the difference is tiny either way

[lost nymph]

Oh okay, great to hear

I just barely started 20's today anyway; hardly relevant either way I assume

[mighty valley]

yeah, like jakey said

it's playing well >>>>>>>> ilvl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stat spread

[lost nymph]

Yeah, for sure. Appreciate the insight.

[warm plinth]

Please tell me you're tauren or hmt

[lost nymph]

Once upon a time. I main Shaman (also not Tuaren anymore)

[warm plinth]

but the name

[lost nymph]

Stoneform too strong brother

[warm plinth]

[lost nymph]

I know buddy, trust me

[warm plinth]

my war is dwarf too; I understand

Plus dwarf heritage is sick so

[tawdry perch]

Thanks a lot for the help / pointers , gonna get some practice under the belt, and then coming back here to some input again! 🙂

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/bpEm0.gif

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-book-of-boba-fett-this-is-the-way-the-armorer-mandalorian-gif-25545276

[modern gazelle]

just applied to a +11 that needed a tank, my friend also applied as tank

they kicked one of their dps and invited us lmfao

[daring marlin]

You're both toxic

[blazing condor]

as if its his fault lol

group leader chose to invite them

[graceful cobalt]

how much dps i lose if i play defens means all time on def stance?

[brittle owl]

toxic by association

[warm plinth]

~13-14%

[graceful cobalt]

hmm ok becouse i feel on some squeeshi and drop very fast. I Hold SB/IP up

than i will even lose dps but can stay alive longer

[jagged pier]

what lvl or stuff are u doing?

[graceful cobalt]

ilvl 440+ and run only 16/17

but most priobs with druid/Dizi Priest

[jagged pier]

then i can almost guarentee u arent keeping SB up

[graceful cobalt]

yes SB is on CD all time

[jagged pier]

i mean can only tell with logs

but there is no way u can feel squishy at that range in that ilvl if u are keeping stuff up

[graceful cobalt]

i do 65k HPS(Absorb) heals do 20-30k and i drop that fast and die with SW and all stuff on cd

[jagged pier]

right okay but i cant actually tell without logs what is going on

[chrome falcon]

Show your talents

And then try to log your next run

[graceful cobalt]

talents basic from wow head

[chrome falcon]

Because in anything below like a 21 you shouldn’t even need to press cool-downs

[jagged pier]

anything below a 21 talents dont matter that much ither

well weve even seen top io warriors run the wrong stuff

so im 99% sure its a player issue, but i cant tell without logs

standat wowhead one is the same as the pins now actually

[jagged pier]

yer not talents

[graceful cobalt]

someone told show your talents^^

only for nelth/Ulda i pick Spellblock

[lavish sphinx]

I’ve timed many 18s/19s sitting in Def Stance. It could be that the DPS in your group aren’t doing enough

[chrome falcon]

I mean yeah you can afk in defensive stance and time 24s probably

But if you HAVE to

It means you’re playing really badly

Which is a problem worth fixing

[lavish sphinx]

My biggest issue has been bad group members really

But I’m getting into stance dancing now I’m trying to push to 20s

I’m just lazy

[chrome falcon]

Yeah I feel you

[chrome falcon]

This is cope tho

Even if it’s true, which it might be

[lavish sphinx]

I guess… most of my bricked keys are cause of others butt pulling or failing mechs

At least the ones I remember

[toxic pewter]

Hmmm

[jagged gust]

This is true a lot of the time, we have access to a ton of CC/interrupts, but they only go so far when no one else feels like contributing in a dungeon, or if the healer isn't popping CDs on a risky pull. People who run with groups often forget how difficult a 17 can be when you're carrying the rest of the group on your back

[lavish sphinx]

100%

[toxic pewter]

Nah

Something very off about what’s happening

And at the end of the day the leader of the group has all the blame

Guy has bad attitude

Need to go look in a mirror

[lavish sphinx]

All I’m saying is Laatvik’s most significant problem is more likely bad group members than his own failings

[toxic pewter]

Na

[grim pilot]

Tank doing his job right is 90% of the key on fortified till 20

[jagged pier]

No this is a 17 i did yesterday

I died once to myself being bad

[grim pilot]

The other 10 are small heals and dps pressing random buttons

[jagged pier]

Nothing to do with healers

Or groups

[jagged gust]

man that monk went off

[toxic pewter]

calls self lazy… blames others for bricked keys..

Surely everyone else is the problem

LOL

[lavish sphinx]

😂

I’m not the one who said I was squishy

But point taken, I glossed over that line

[grim pilot]

You cant expect every tank to be pulling those numbers though

[jagged pier]

Its not about numbers

[jagged gust]

Destro locks have it so bad in low dungeons

[grim pilot]

But in 17 with proper gear even though you might be half good youre invincible

[jagged pier]

U can live a 17 with very little effort and the group still being bad is my point

[lavish sphinx]

I’m lazy so I sit in def stance most of the time but I’ve timed plenty of high teen keys with capable groups

[toxic pewter]

Oh oops Im mixing up two people LOL

awkward

[jagged pier]

And i linked the screenshot because ppl never believe when i say i pretty much exclusivly pug

[jagged gust]

Tanks running wild and fucking up their RoF, mobs dying too fast for their cleaves to matter, mfers should just swap to demo

[jagged pier]

And i can expect tanks to do that damage or close too everyone should be able to if u play correctly, there isnt much of a high skill ceiling on the spec anymore, which means u can be alot closer to the top ppl than in SLs and BFA defensivly and offensively

[grim pilot]

Dunno im shit tank I stopped at 2.9 in s1 because I hit my ceiling I guess but 130k does seem a bit much for some dungeons for a tank

[jagged pier]

Sure but i never said u need to do 130k in every dungeon as i said i was linking an example to show i do infact pug

And even with bad groups im not squishy and live unless i make a mistake myself then i die

Which takes us all the way back to the start where i said its more than likely a player issue than anything else

But its hard to tell without logs

[vocal verge]

Fact is. People don’t push their buttons enough. Keep your globals rolling and you can do 100k+ easily

[jagged pier]

Feel free to go look at the log of that run i posted

[grim pilot]

Tanking is least dependant on ilv from all 3 roles

So yeah if someone struggles then its a player issue

[jagged pier]

Cause i logged it

Like everyone should do ifnu want to improve or find out what is going wrong etc etc

[lavish sphinx]

And you just sit in Battle Stance Jakey?

[jagged pier]

Yes

[grim pilot]

In 17 you’re not taking much damage

[jagged pier]

Why would i go in d stance literally no point

In any content

[lavish sphinx]

The rest of us have fear lol

[jagged pier]

Except very high keys

[grim pilot]

There shouldnt be any fear

[vocal verge]

You need d stance for maybe the bleeds in ulda and that’s it

[grim pilot]

Keep your shit up and if you see you struggle swap stance

[jagged pier]

If u play correctly u literally cant die

[grim pilot]

Though you shouldnt struggle

[toxic pewter]

Wat u afraid of

[lavish sphinx]

I’m not saying it’s rational fear

[gloomy vortex]

just had a rough 21 Nelt and wondering if anyone could look over log to see why I kept taking so much damage/dying? timed it with 10 seconds https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nmW3KqPNV41kMX9C/ any tips appreciated

[toxic pewter]

You need to get out of defensive stance

It’s like a crutch holding you back

You’re losing a lot of dam

[lavish sphinx]

This is the talk I’ve needed

[grim pilot]

Shield block 75% uptime feels giga low

[toxic pewter]

Try remember damage patterns of certain dungeons and stuff

[jagged pier]

low blocked hits

not blocking slash

wasted a tone of rage

[gloomy vortex]

ouch that is far too low

[jagged pier]

please dont look at uptime

[gloomy vortex]

is this due to low uptime of shield block?

[jagged pier]

its blocked hits we care about

umm well due to not managing stuff correctly yer

[gloomy vortex]

but the more uptime the more chance of blocking?

[jagged pier]

like

u cast SC

19 times

in 32 mins

👀

thats part of your sb rotation

its used on cd

[gloomy vortex]

SC is shield charge?

[jagged pier]

looks at a run of min of nels which was 2 mins shorter

i had 32 casts

and yes

well yer casts are low

on like everything

[gloomy vortex]

only thing to block slash is spell block no?

[lavish sphinx]

Reflect

[grim pilot]

Isnt uptime supposed to be 90% in any case

[jagged pier]

yes but u blocked about 50% hard to tell if u could have blocked more 🤷

im not going into it too much but maybe

remeber spell block will cover 2 slashes before u need another cd

so u should use it first

but like your cd casts are low avatar, SC, dragon roar, ravager all low should be used on cd

so your missing a tone of rage

but your also not spending your rage at all

so your not fueling AM

this isnt a perfect comparison compare logs never is but this is my 29 min run vs your 32 min run

just look at the difference in number of casts

like u barely dump rage with IP at all

which causes the wasted rage linked above

and means u get less SWs and less avatars in general

[jagged gust]

Jakey do you ever try to line up your CDs with avatar? I used to but lately I've just macro'd Avatar and LS into shield block

[jagged pier]

right u dont do that

and 2

[jagged gust]

rip it and forget it

[jagged pier]

no u send on cd

avatar will ine up more than u think its 20sec buff

[gloomy vortex]

ok that all makes sense

I definitely felt over burdened that run which caused me to miss out on usual rotation

[jagged pier]

so just a comparison of rage economy,

in less time not only did i spend more rage I generated more rage

[gloomy vortex]

great, will try those points

[jagged pier]

sure but for instance uptime isnt useful because it take in down time in logs, like in the log im using to compared i had 92% uptime but i actually blocked 93% of melees against me

blocked hits is the only metric that really helps tell anything in terms of SB

[graceful cobalt]

one other question should i hold my 441 Forgestorm or should i craft me the Blacksmith weapon to 447?

or should i spent my other 2 sparks on Both rings? Wrist/Feet i have also the Frostfirebelt

[lavish sphinx]

Strengthen up your weakest slots

[jagged gust]

I think the general consensus prior to the last buff we got was forgestorm simmed higher in general for ST, crafted was better for clearing dungeon trash. Dunno how much the buff had an effect on that.

[lavish sphinx]

I think I found your profile on raider . io @graceful cobalt (EU Malfurian, right?)

Your gear is pretty good

I’d say either replace ascended frost ring with a Haste Crit titanic signet

Or Haste Crit crafted pants

I’m speaking without knowing your stats though

Says your Forgestorm is capped at 437 though, I’d replace that for 447 crafter wep

[brazen yarrow]

is it worth to save shield slam for a bit to do more dmg with shield block

[lavish sphinx]

Shield Block should but up often enough that you’re spamming Shield Slam

Shield Slam is your rage gainer anyway so it can get you a Shield Block

[proper roost]

Huh

Just always press shield slam

i was gonna say good morning vietnam but that answer upset me

😡

no good morning to any of u

[plush tendon]

the reality is you should already have super high uptime on SB (whether you are playing Heavy Reprecusasion or Bolster+Tier), and you just send SS on CD

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-jacket-gunnery-point-soldier-officer-gif-14307127

[proper roost]

boomer prot warriors need to be told to wake the fuck up

t b h

perma dstance enjoyers...

[plush tendon]

[toxic pewter]

I call on all warriors, of all specs, to join me in the great stance boycott of 2023

[plush tendon]

how bout no?

[toxic pewter]

Simply exit any and all stances going forward as we fight against these poorly designed and implemented crutches that hold us back

[plush tendon]

naw, I thinking having stances is good

[toxic pewter]

I will be here when you realize the truth

And welcome you with open arms

[plush tendon]

unless they just implement the damage reduction in other places so we get both

but otherwise, having a 20% DR on a 6 second CD kind of neat

[proper roost]

don't engage with apb

low effort trolling

[plush tendon]

but hes a mole with a hat.... I gotta respond

[toxic pewter]

I call on all warriors, of all specs, to join me in the great stance boycott of 2023. Simply exit any and all stances going forward as we fight against these poorly designed and implemented crutches that hold us back. If you are still skeptical, I understand as I was once you. I will be here with open arms for when you are ready to join this endeavor with us. We are waiting for you.

[jagged gust]

Honestly battle stance does fuck all anyways, I'll sign this petition

as long as we put turning revenge into swipe on the docket as well

[proper roost]

there was some point where

bstance gave 5% movespeed

iirc

or maybe it was when all warriors still had all 3 stances and it was berserker that did that, idr

Either way, good times

[jagged gust]

move speed and aa damage? sign me up

[proper roost]

stances have changed so many times incrementally that i don't even remember when that was. maybe like wod

or mop

it was before speed tert existed anyway so 5% movespeed on a stance was kinda nice but i'm pretty sure you never actually used it cuz one of the stances actually just gave dps instead of just movespeed

[toxic pewter]

Spread my message around to all the warrior channels

We will win in the end

I welcome all into the flock

[strong forum]

The average player can't handle 2 stances where buttons don't change

You expect them to juggle 3-4 stances where the buttons change per stance again?

Also all those stance dancings would legit just be macro'd to death these days

[proper roost]

whoa who was saying that

nome coming out guns blazin for nobody's argument

smh

NOT a good morning vietnam moment for sure

[strong forum]

Ah he's going for stance-less

I thought full stance comeback

[toxic pewter]

Nah stances just bad at this point. Obviously they have a cool history but they’re now just shadows of their former design and more of an annoyance at this point than any fun design or interaction

Just need to get rid of them they tried the experiment but they just don’t work

[plush tendon]

I think D-Stance came back cause Arms had it the last couple of expacs as a talent

especially for PVP.... so I bet Fury Warriors were like 'we want that!' and then prot got Battle/D Stance as well

for continuity

[dusky canopy]

Not me, macroing the required stance to each ability and never thinking about it again LIKE IT SHOULD BE

[proper roost]

lol brew macros shield slam to dstance

[dusky canopy]

If it is required to cast shield slam

Then yes

[plush tendon]

Battle Stance just feels kind of lame; 3% crit and a "no -10% damage"

[proper roost]

shield slam d

nevermind

[dusky canopy]

Go on

[strong forum]

There's no solution to stances

[plush tendon]

and D Stance is poop cause 10%- damage done

[strong forum]

That makes sense for prot

[plush tendon]

gross

[dusky canopy]

Imo what we have now is fine

Aside from just removing them again

[strong forum]

If b-stance is only 3% crit and d-stance doesn't have the penalty, you'll still sit in b-stance most of the time

[toxic pewter]

Yah the solution is just get rid of them… they created a solution to a problem that didn’t exist

[plush tendon]

my solution idea! D Stance gets Damage Reduction plus increase rage on damage taken and add Glad Stance with increased rage gen on our attacks, attack range and movement speed

[strong forum]

So what you're saying is

Perma glad stance

[plush tendon]

glad stance when not tanking!

but youll want the extra rage from D Stance

when taking damage

[proper roost]

writing a "solution" to stances implies that stances are a problem lol

if you can't even agree on what the problem is

[plush tendon]

semantics! Its a idea!

[toxic pewter]

I mean they are a problem to me

[proper roost]

then writing a "solution" is stupid

[plush tendon]

you dont like my idea 😦

[dusky canopy]

I respect that some people like the idea of juggling stances but I simply do not. I think it is awful design. I don’t give a shit about what stance I’m in I just want to mash buttons and win that’s why I enjoy this class as a whole

[proper roost]

yes an idea that just obfuscates a decision of what is better numerically because both do the same thing, is a terrible idea

but not only that, again, when you don't even agree on what the "problem" is, it's very bad because you're iterating a solution for no problem at all

[dusky canopy]

Not over capping rage and maintaining block is plenty of micromanagement. (Aside from planning defensive abilities in hard content) Why is it necessary to juggle stances?

It’s useless imo.

(Yes right now block uptime is free but let’s assume that won’t remain that way forever.)

[plush tendon]

[toxic pewter]

You guys are just overthinking this entire situation. It’s to the point where it’s awkward you’re having to make up paragraphs to justify them.. the simple and undeniable fact is:

Current iteration of stances is just not fun. Full stop.

There’s no getting around it you cannot argue yourself out of this.

[plush tendon]

I think Fury and Arms like it

[lusty grotto]

Stances are fine

[toxic pewter]

He said the f word

[lusty grotto]

Stance dancing shouldn't be a requirement however

[plush tendon]

seems to be a prot dilemma

[toxic pewter]

LOL my argument truly is sound

Anytime you pull out fine it is done

[lusty grotto]

And the whole kiss or curse thing is fucking dumb and outdated

[plush tendon]

[toxic pewter]

Yah exactly. They’re just dumb and outdated

Well said

[lusty grotto]

Remove this whole less damage and make it more in line with modern combat

[jagged gust]

give prot warriors ak47s, modernize the hell outta them

[lusty grotto]

Idk why they blizzard is so focused in kiss and curse shit tbh

The biggest problem is that it applies to certain classes only

There's enough of it in talent selection so why keep it for ability usage

Also fuck office work days I'm fucking bored

[toxic pewter]

Welcome to the boycott family

[plush tendon]

agreed

weekend soon though

[toxic pewter]

Cease using the stances going forward. We need to be the change we want to see in the world of Warcraft

[jagged gust]

16 hour flight on sunday, not looking forward to that

[proper roost]

🙏

[plush tendon]

ima snag some Teriyaki today though

for lunch

[proper roost]

today is burrito bowl day

[daring marlin]

egg whites and rice

let's go

[daring marlin]

work outside then

coward

[proper roost]

outside dn

[daring marlin]

There is no kiss/curse. If there were there'd be upsides. lol

[proper roost]

god i hate this discussion

but yeah dstance isnt a kiss curse that's like the worst way to look at that

[daring marlin]

[plush tendon]

spear lame; we know what we want

[proper roost]

blizz just doesnt want people camping in dstance while dpsing which u definitely could get away with if there was 0 damage penalty, losing the AA damage is not a big deal

[plush tendon]

[daring marlin]

with nerfed ass spear they gave us I agree

[proper roost]

Spear d

[daring marlin]

oh we're talking stances again?

my bad

[proper roost]

nevermind

[plush tendon]

[daring marlin]

I was under the impression it was something else not lame

[brazen yarrow]

we shouldve been able to pick between all 4 of the shadowlands covenant spells and not just spear imo

[plush tendon]

ancient aftershock knockdown was OP OP

[brazen yarrow]

just maybe make them not look shit

[uneven mason]

☝️

[brazen yarrow]

spear is a flashbang

aftershocj is agressively blue

condemn we still have

necro banner could just be any random banner

[lusty grotto]

I fucking am for the most part

[proper roost]

you're doing WHAT

[brazen yarrow]

spear could just be red (warrior color)
aftershock could be red or just cracked floor

[uneven mason]

Red is warrior color?

[brazen yarrow]

ravager

red

[lusty grotto]

Lol

[plush tendon]

Warrior is brown sir

Red is DK

[uneven mason]

[brazen yarrow]

dk is kidney stone color

[lusty grotto]

[toxic pewter]

Kinda would be cool if the ravager talents were badass

[plush tendon]

i agree

two capstone talents on that side

[toxic pewter]

Also I think prot should get bladestorm

[plush tendon]

which will never see the light of day

[lusty grotto]

Idk ravager does a metric ton compared to the initial iterations

[plush tendon]

Ravager itself is cool

but those two talents choices below it are poop

[uneven mason]

Bfa ravager never again

[lusty grotto]

I guess so

[crude notch]

If your kidney stones are maroon, you got more problems than just well kidney stones

[toxic pewter]

Should be able to throw our shield as a defensive ravager type ability

[proper roost]

they only allowed fury to have the good ravager talents

[brazen yarrow]

prot should get enraged regeneration and last stand as a swappable node where some random spell like idk revenge or hamstring heals

[uneven mason]

Why

[lusty grotto]

50% parry Yamorino gang lel

[crude notch]

Skyhold on one today.

[brazen yarrow]

give more buttons

[proper roost]

god u guys are competing for the worst takes

ong

[crude notch]

Must be the heat

[brazen yarrow]

me want more button

[lusty grotto]

[brazen yarrow]

my takes are amazing

[uneven mason]

Monks are a thing

[daring marlin]

I think I may get my wish of triple digits today

[crude notch]

You don't even press the ones you have wym

[daring marlin]

at least real feel

[brazen yarrow]

me want more useless button

[plush tendon]

All Wariors should have stoneform baseline!

[crude notch]

We cooking we aiming for 120 real feel

[uneven mason]

Sounds like an amazing day to be a roofer

[brazen yarrow]

we raining

[crude notch]

We get the 100+rain tomorrow it'll be banger

[brazen yarrow]

wtf is 120 in cejelsisus

[crude notch]

49

[brazen yarrow]

how do you live

???

[crude notch]

I don't

[plush tendon]

it rained a lot last night

so the forcast of mid 90s today is now high 80s

we gaming bois

[brazen yarrow]

i can barely exist above like

33

[proper roost]

well unlike EU we unlocked the secrets of air conditioning

so mostly that

[plush tendon]

tell that to the North East

[proper roost]

the climate bends to our will

[brazen yarrow]

also our houses have like

thicc

walls

so the temp tends to change slower indoors

so we eont really need ac

until its hot for weeks

[crude notch]

The North East has AC, wym

[proper roost]

yeah i think he might be thinking of the northwest

because yeah PNW generally doesn't have a/c in older homes

because it's a very mild temperate climate (usually)

northeast definitely does lmao it literally gets cold as fuck in the NE...

and hot as hell in NYC and shit

Atlantic ocean breeze bay bee

[lusty grotto]

Yeah fuck not having AC, murica baby

[plush tendon]

if you are from a old New England town where houses got dates on them from the 1600s, theres a good chance theres no AC

[proper roost]

ok just stop being poor then

[crude notch]

No AC is a choice

[plush tendon]

and if there is, theres a old window unit you stuff in the closet until it gets way too hot

[proper roost]

they dont got those in europe either

[crude notch]

And that's called an AC still

[proper roost]

a window ac unit

is still

an ac unit

[dusky canopy]

Currently 69C at my place

[proper roost]

🤯

[dusky canopy]

[crude notch]

Oh bb

[proper roost]

why did jordan donowall me on 2v2v2v2 invite yesterday

[dusky canopy]

Big bucks no wammies

[crude notch]

I donowalled you?

Oh look at that you pinged me at 1am about it. Oopsie

Sorry kanga ilu

[round pendant]

@warm plinth

[dusky canopy]

10/10

[toxic pewter]

Is that some sort of inside joke

[round pendant]

First poofrombutt, then sodomylover

and now analjuice

[proper roost]

No shot u weren't awake

[crude notch]

I was

[hazy bronze]

That's a very interesting way of spitting game

[proper roost]

first guilford doesn't wanna key with me anymore

[crude notch]

My discord is on DND so I have to actually look at it to see the notifications

[proper roost]

and now ignored for leggo legs invite

[daring marlin]

you were doing dungeons last night

???

Then I went to BED

[dusky canopy]

What’s sleeping?

[proper roost]

i was raiding last night actually for your information

[dusky canopy]

Ohhh sleeping sleeping,

[daring marlin]

raiding the mega dungeon

[dusky canopy]

Miss that old friend

[daring marlin]

[proper roost]

but for the next 3 days I am finally not raiding (and then I raid again for 4 days in a row)

[crude notch]

My new trainer says I need to get 8+ hours of sleep a night

[dusky canopy]

Lucky to get 6 here

Zzzzz

[crude notch]

No one asked

[daring marlin]

NEW TIRAINER

WHO

[proper roost]

is your new trainer that guy from twitter

[dusky canopy]

Disrespect.

[crude notch]

JK Brew ilu

[proper roost]

are you actually gonna get 8 hours a night

[crude notch]

No

Although if I start working out again I will

That was always the key for me in the past

[daring marlin]

based dean

Sleep is the bedrock of any growth

Recovery #1!

[plush tendon]

4 days

[proper roost]

well its

3 days of normal raid

then an alt raid

[dusky canopy]

They trying to kill that OF guy

Real quick

[proper roost]

it's not actually 4 days of actual raiding

[plush tendon]

like alt heroic raid

[proper roost]

also i forgot i raid on saturday too but that doesn't count because its like 1 hour

yea

[dusky canopy]

No mythic OF

You haven’t heard of it?

[proper roost]

i don't actually have to go to my thursday one i just do because it's fun

[plush tendon]

I mean, at this point in the tier... seems plausible

[proper roost]

oh wait

jfc

i just remembered i raid sunday too

ok so i kinda raid 6 days a week atm 💀

[dusky canopy]

Gamer

[plush tendon]

[proper roost]

but three of them are 4fun alt raids that i don't need to go to!

I can quit anytime I want!!

[plush tendon]

yall trying to finish the tier?

[dusky canopy]

I’m showing up to the power gain raids

Otherwise keys is where it’s at

[proper roost]

honestly I feel like reprogging with friends' casual guild adds a lot of enjoyment back into farm

if that makes sense

(it's not actual reprog but theyve only killed heroic sark like twice)

[dusky canopy]

Oh yeah that’s actually fair

Makes raiding more fun

[plush tendon]

Heroic with the bois is a good time

[proper roost]

they're not experienced with it so its fun to have them learn new things

[plush tendon]

Mythic Sark Prog is not

6 days of p1 loser death wipes

[dusky canopy]

What’s the mythic changes?

I don’t pay attention

[plush tendon]

p1 doesnt change that much tbh

but you gotta get hit by fire and frost

[proper roost]

i mean from what I understand, melee DPS on echo and sark is like

[plush tendon]

and its a lot more damage/healing required

[proper roost]

literally braindead lol

i mean echo for sure i'm like not doing shit

I memorized #5 spots and i'm donezo 😎 i just dps the things

Now waitge for everyone else to get the fight

dont even need to think about cd timings as fury i just send it permanently

[lusty grotto]

Stop it, get some help

[dusky canopy]

Ohhh so healers have to heal through a lot of of extra damage in p1 since people have to take both debuffs

[dusky canopy]

[plush tendon]

in p2, anytime you go downstairs, you leave a puddle which is a hole in the ground

[crude notch]

OF is the best fight in the raid don't at me

[sick sentinel]

i saw a shaman named thundercunt back in BFA

[dusky canopy]

💯

[sick sentinel]

thats the one instantly remember

[plush tendon]

honestly, it really isnt that much different then heroic, its just a very meticulous fight

[dusky canopy]

[toxic pewter]

Which fight is of

[plush tendon]

just more damage, and early deaths or going off script leads to a bad time

[dusky canopy]

You mean you don’t instantly recognize what we’re talking about Apb?

[sick sentinel]

and someone i knew had his name as donut 3 letter racist term, dunno how he didnt get banned for that

[dusky canopy]

Hmmmmmmm

[crude notch]

Imagine not being as big picture as you think

[toxic pewter]

I think it is meme or something but actually never knew what fight actually discussing

[crude notch]

Only big picture people know what OF is

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[toxic pewter]

I don’t discuss or chat in memes or anything of that sort

[crude notch]

Your entire life is a meme

Gottem

[toxic pewter]

Are you ok

[crude notch]

No

[crude notch]

This is known

Whoa

I saw that typo

[sick sentinel]

there i showed ytou my onlyfans

[crude notch]

LMAO

[sick sentinel]

i instantly saw it too

[plush tendon]

[proper roost]

but yeah idk

maybe I should dial back on my raiding now that I've realized how much of it i do

[sick sentinel]

im like ERRRRR

that aint gunna fly

[crude notch]

Kanga we about to have an intervention

[plush tendon]

its a lot

6 days

[crude notch]

For your raiding problem

[plush tendon]

no time for keys

[dusky canopy]

@toxic pewter Ok ok, some guy came in here yesterday talking about neltharion. And Nim and I assumed he was talking about dungeons. Then we realized he meant Echo OF Neltharion.

[plush tendon]

or league

[toxic pewter]

Oh right lmao

[sick sentinel]

well, i actually typed a bad word into discord one time now

[proper roost]

well idk

[sick sentinel]

i can say i have did that

[proper roost]

it is 6 days but for 3 of those days its <2h of raiding

[crude notch]

People are dumb you didn't call battle for dazzledorf, battle

[proper roost]

I feel like I spend less time raiding (not counting my real raid days) compared to puggers

[sick sentinel]

im a bit surpriseds a bot didnt evaporate me for that

[proper roost]

every time i've had to pug raid it takes like legit 6x the time to get the same bosses killed

[crude notch]

Same, yogi.

[proper roost]

i did just talk to one of my guildies about raiding friday tho...

that would be 7 days...

[crude notch]

Lol

[proper roost]

[daring marlin]

I gotta do a bunch of keys tonight

[crude notch]

[dusky canopy]

Have done 0 key this week

[proper roost]

the problem is

[dusky canopy]

[crude notch]

I have done exactly 1 key

[proper roost]

raiding is like the most time efficient way to fill vault slots on alts

like, by a LOT

[crude notch]

And it was to take a picture of my UI

[proper roost]

if i just go to a 2h heroic alt clear, my only tradeoff is i need to go to a scheduled one and bam 3 vault slots

as opposed to ~4 keys within 2h

my real issue is spending 3 days raiding on my warrior. if i could cut that out i'd have so much free time

[sick sentinel]

only keys im running currently are VP lair and FH (loot)

might attempt other keys for io, but i figure it will all go to shit very quickly

[dusky canopy]

Do I keep progging experiments and eventually rashok with the guild or do I jump to echo prog with bear buddies guild on the low

The latter is the selfish option ofc

[sick sentinel]

freehold doesn't drop gear, but it does drop the mount

[uneven mason]

Bear buddy

[crude notch]

Raid clear is better for gearing an alt, but 8 +16s gives you 441 so.

[daring marlin]

Wonder what pugging will look like

[sick sentinel]

deeply apologize to anyone that saw my offensive type-o and was offended

[lusty grotto]

Guild doesn't pay your sub, do your thing

[daring marlin]

hmmmmm

[sick sentinel]

i don't type shit like that random

[dusky canopy]

That’s what I’m leaning on too better raid times also!

[crude notch]

Bear buddy

That's my vote

[dusky canopy]

Hell yeah thanks homies that’s all I needed

[uneven mason]

If they're struggling on experiments.

[dusky canopy]

Holy Frick*

That’s a cool af Pepe

[crude notch]

That wicked sticker goes all out

Holy

Track suit and everything

[dusky canopy]

Mb forgot it’s pg in here

[crude notch]

Heck yeah it is

[lusty grotto]

What the heck

[lusty tiger]

The adidas Pepe swag

[crude notch]

No cursing in my Christian Minecraft server

[lusty grotto]

Gosh darn it

[vagrant oracle]

Last season I pugged through AOTC to better lead the guild group I was running with. It’ll make you a more experienced player.

[crude notch]

Beef stew whatchu benching

[sick sentinel]

i got the cheap walmart version of those

[lusty tiger]

I got some wicked sunglasses irl

[dusky canopy]

Yo orn I joined that sticker server

[vagrant oracle]

Easier to explain fights you’ve done a few times, callouts and see how other groups do it successfully.

[dusky canopy]

That’s just too good

[vagrant oracle]

About 12lbs

[dusky canopy]

Pepe swag

On point

[lusty grotto]

Inb4 EU members complain about the track suit

[lusty tiger]

Wdym just their style

[dusky canopy]

pimpin ain’t easy

[lusty grotto]

What do they call them again?

[dusky canopy]

Wait

That’s not pg

[jagged gust]

If a plaid longsleeve is a Canadian dinner jacket, that should be the slavic version

[crude notch]

Jumpers or something

[lusty tiger]

I bet Jakey has one of those in every color

[lusty grotto]

I know brits have a word for track suit users

[uneven mason]

Tried mythic on wends, had a hpal cryquit because the RL said mean things about people who drag beams into other people on the first boss, literally cryquit, wtf is up with these younger generations of gamers

[dusky canopy]

Yeah I’d basically be dogging guild for Mythic echo prog with a friends guild might even get to join if they like me

[lusty grotto]

Ch... Something, not chads

[lusty tiger]

CRY, like into the mic?

[uneven mason]

Yup

[jagged gust]

Imagine struggling on Kaz, not my group who went as far as to pop vantus, nope.

[dusky canopy]

Literal scream I imagine

[lusty tiger]

They obviously never got to cry from being yelled at in baseball practice

[dusky canopy]

@jagged gust have recleared two weeks now with this guild and we kill kazz with like 6 people alive at the end

It’s so cringe I hate it

Can’t get a decent log

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-baseball-there-is-no-crying-movie-night-gif-16019339

[dusky canopy]

[lusty tiger]

Epic

[uneven mason]

You think anyone born after 1999 has played baseball willingly?

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[lusty tiger]

I didn’t even play willingly so no

[jagged gust]

I swear I'll hear "brez 1 of 2 healers at 80% every second pull, mfer's out here making sandwiches instead of dodging swirlies

[sick sentinel]

we got giga rain

[crude notch]

I used to have one of those imalonerwithnofriends nets that'd bounce the baseball back to you

[sick sentinel]

blocked out my neighbours car

[dusky canopy]

YOGSTER

[plush tendon]

I did a similar thing this tier; the raid leader for the guild I had been with for 5-6 years quit the game and we were struggling on Rashok and everything was sort of up in the air. But a spot opened up with a friends of mine's guild where they needed a tank to start Echo... I ended up leaving

[dusky canopy]

That’s a lake fam

[plush tendon]

also helped that the raid times were a hour earlier

[crude notch]

Um we call that fight of here

[plush tendon]

so I was in bed before 12 rather then after

[vagrant oracle]

Mythic..?

[sick sentinel]

see, there, i was trying to hit a T and i still ended up hitting G, proof its a mistake earlier

[lusty tiger]

Yogi is that actually a lake on the other side of the road?

[crude notch]

Thank you

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[vagrant oracle]

I mean that’s progress.

[sick sentinel]

ya,

[jagged gust]

Ontario has a different lake every 200 feet

[sick sentinel]

all the land beside lakes is expensive as fuck

naturally

[crude notch]

Y'all out here Geoguessr'ing yogi

[dusky canopy]

It’s ok yogster we all make mistake, I will forgive

[lusty tiger]

Yogi in Vermont or Canada

[sick sentinel]

if i told you, you would know

so, clearly, we cant have that

[daring marlin]

Yogi is in Canada

[vagrant oracle]

Yogi what do you put on French fries?

[dusky canopy]

Holy shit this is the smartest take I’ve read so far today

🧠

[daring marlin]

probably a a newfie

[sick sentinel]

listen up you little shit

[vagrant oracle]

😂😂😂

[lusty tiger]

XD

[dusky canopy]

[sick sentinel]

its called poutine

[vagrant oracle]

Oh yeah. Straight Canadian

[dusky canopy]

That’s not what I call poutine

[jagged gust]

I used to do maintenance on railway infrastructure out in northern ontario, I could stand the rain but wind knocking over 3 million trees and lightning melting bungalows every month got real tiresome

[vagrant oracle]

Bros got that maple blood

[dusky canopy]

“Poutine” slayer

[uneven mason]

Or a river if you're near Gatineau

[daring marlin]

too many leafs in chat

[crude notch]

Do you have a pet moose yogi

[dusky canopy]

Wait that’s not PG

SMH

[crude notch]

Do you lick the maple syrup straight off the tree

[dusky canopy]

Wait no I’m good

[lusty tiger]

Or Christian or Minecraft

[sick sentinel]

and they way to properly make it is deep fry thick cut frenchfries, and use cheese CURDS, and gravy any gravy but you have to make the gravy more powder to water than water to powder like they do in america

[dusky canopy]

I’ll just say I mean French fries

[sick sentinel]

the reason cheese CURD specifically is cuz it melts over the fries and gravy

[lusty tiger]

Guys making me hungry

[crude notch]

Thanks yogi now I hungy

[dusky canopy]

A curd is solid cheese sir

[sick sentinel]

you CAN do it with normal block or shreeded cheese but it doesn't have quite the same effect

[dusky canopy]

A curd is not melted

[uneven mason]

You have to boil that shit down

[dusky canopy]

You doin it wrong

[uneven mason]

No you can't

[crude notch]

Don't boil your turds, it'll stink up the place

[uneven mason]

Wtf thats like the Americanized version

[dusky canopy]

Lmfao

[jagged gust]

the fries semi melt the curds, unless you get those costco poutines then they just squeak in your mouth when you chew em

[dusky canopy]

don’t boil yer turds

💯

[uneven mason]

Squeak cheese

[uneven mason]

That's what cheese curds are supposed to do bruh

[crude notch]

And people say I don't offer any good advice in here

Lol

[sick sentinel]

it should RESEMBLE this

not exactly

[crude notch]

Gosh dang

Phew almost went not pg

[jagged gust]

god I cant wait to go back to canada, closest thing you can find in a pub in london is fries served with mushed peas

[uneven mason]

St-albert or get that shit off my plate

[sick sentinel]

regular ass fries cheese gravy

you will fuck it up

and lose freinds

[crude notch]

Whoa

[jagged gust]

then you have the poutinery whos out there serving a whole ass thanksgiving dinner on top of a poutine

[daring marlin]

It is when you deep fry it

[sick sentinel]

mostly what it is used for is a heavy meal during like the spring and fall by like hunters and shit

[uneven mason]

Harvey's has a baller buffalo chicken poutine

[proper roost]

bro

[daring marlin]

Which every bar in Wisconsin does

[proper roost]

let me link u this log

of my second m kazz kill

[uneven mason]

Yeah most Americans see poutine and think side dish, properly done that shit is a full meal and a half

[uneven mason]

[proper roost]

think it was like world 3rd slowest kill

at the time

[crude notch]

Pog

[proper roost]

18 deaths on my log

[uneven mason]

Yeah I was like we were getting her to 10% at the 4m mark

[proper roost]

So we had like 4 people alive at the end and i was one of them

[sick sentinel]

its more akin to a mcdonalds meal for red necks if you get it at like a stop on side of road, comes in styrofoam boxe

[proper roost]

🫡

fury warrior unkillable

[uneven mason]

Then some fuckwit would panic and drag his laser through 5 people and 4 puddles and then it'd just me standing there

[daring marlin]

I see it and think damn that looks good, I want more protein tho

Speaking of funny regional dishes

[proper roost]

5 people alive actually and the warlock died like 2s before the end

[daring marlin]

Rochester NY has a goofy one

[proper roost]

so we 4 manned it with 1 healer, me, 2 tanks

5 man for the last 3 minutes

[crude notch]

Yo I need to go through each raid fight and get slowest kill. (Obviously can't on Zskarn anymore but)

[uneven mason]

Best takes though are when my cotank sends beacon right after I taunt

[vagrant oracle]

I cast beacon on 3 on the pull timer lol

[uneven mason]

Right

[jagged gust]

jfc, that's honestly impressive, I'm usually sacrificing myself for the raid kiting for 30 god damn seconds because some asshole dropped a portal midflight to africa

[dusky canopy]

Yo you right

[lusty tiger]

Poutine sucks give me a loaded baked potato

[dusky canopy]

They good too

[lusty tiger]

Never had putting poutine

[daring marlin]

oh shit

You just gave me an idea

[proper roost]

yeah the difficulty is you'll only get first kills right, so it's kinda hard to find

without going through every report

[daring marlin]

Loaded baked potato

[proper roost]

it is not that hard actually

[daring marlin]

but greek yogurt instead

[proper roost]

idk

[daring marlin]

[proper roost]

you just have to search all reports and start manually filtering

[lusty tiger]

Love me some sour cream

[dusky canopy]

The worst thing on KAZ is getting a beam as melee and the frickin* pool is out in narnia

[jagged gust]

That's why you get the quadruple bacon poutine, granted it's something like 3k calories, but you're not gonna be wanting for more meat by the end... Possibly some sort of ventilator though

[proper roost]

It's usually some chinese guild though (because they have way more players)

[daring marlin]

MF LOL

[proper roost]

god bless em the bad chinese guilds do not give up

[dusky canopy]

They do the same shit on experiments in our group, the bleed markers are out in narnia it’s like wtf are we doing????

[daring marlin]

Can't speak for on a potato but in spicy mexican food I genuinely can't tell the difference between sour cream and greek yogurt

[lusty tiger]

I have never substituted it probably is pretty much the same

What do I get on Uber eats today?

[daring marlin]

cheese stick and nuts

maybe a gatorade

[jagged gust]

Similar texture, greek yogurt is a bit thicker, but the flavour is pretty much identical

[vagrant oracle]

Cluster those markers on one side. If someone extra gets hit and they weren’t in middle of a spirit bomb style attack with spirit bomb level damage, give ‘em das boot

[lusty tiger]

I already ate too much of that yesterday

I ran out of actual food and I’m home sick

[dusky canopy]

No shit, I suggested moving the markers significantly closer right so they do it and then the range complained? And some of them continue to walk the bleed out to narnia

Frick* your melee I guess

[jagged gust]

aside from like... mm hunter? Is there any reason for ranged to actually be at range? I get avoiding melee swirlies but shit, it's not the hardest thing in the world to disengage/blink away

[strong forum]

No

[vagrant oracle]

Don’t know about you, but a short stack of pancakes, a couple of fried eggs, bacon, sausage, toasted sourdough and nice side of hash browns would probably hit the spot.

[strong forum]

The only reason a range sits at range is because of less required movement

[proper roost]

around a 15-20 yd range away from the boss is like the ideal ranged positioning on experiments

[dusky canopy]

………

[proper roost]

it minimizes overall required movement

the further you are, the more you have to move for the slam

the closer you are, the more swirlies you have to dodge

so yeah like 15-20 ish yds give or take 5

[dusky canopy]

Literal ass butt in that picture

The bad kind

Like swamp ass butt

Camping for a week

[proper roost]

why are u complaining about a guild ur not even raiding with anymore

[lusty grotto]

SIR

[proper roost]

smh

move on with ur life

[lusty grotto]

this is a christian server

[proper roost]

weirdo

[lusty grotto]

what da heck

[dusky canopy]

Lmao I haven’t technically stopped raiding with them

[proper roost]

brew is like "i had this one bad key on week 1"

[dusky canopy]

But you right

[proper roost]

move on!!

[lusty grotto]

you had a heckin bad time

its all swell and dandy now

[dusky canopy]

There you go nim

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto 70 on nimchippy yet?

[dusky canopy]

Christian approved

[daring marlin]

I wanna gear my lock

[plush tendon]

its also weird to separate melee and range when not needed... missing out on all of the aoe healing

[proper roost]

it's not really

mostly only prevoker cares about that and prevoker breath is literally

frontal cone

so its fine

[daring marlin]

wait no I don't

[proper roost]

we're very long past the days of healing rain being 90% of rsham healing or whatever

[daring marlin]

CDF sux

[strong forum]

Ranged players have an inherent need to be as far away from both healer and boss as humanly possible

[daring marlin]

Warlock shelved til S3

[plush tendon]

Im not too familar with healers, but I swear theres gotta be some ground aoe healing stuffs

like druid grass

[strong forum]

Shaman, druid, prevoker, monk

Paladin

[proper roost]

every healer has one now yes

[strong forum]

All like stacked up people

[proper roost]

but it's not really that big of a deal for overall rot damage

[strong forum]

Only one that kinda doesn't care is priest

[proper roost]

you're already stacked for everything that matters anyway

[daring marlin]

druid grass

[proper roost]

like magmorax

[daring marlin]

lmao

[proper roost]

and everyone's ramp is independent of stack

even prevoker

[lusty tiger]

SMH can’t order unsweetened coffee

[crude notch]

Druid grass I'm calling it that for now on

[daring marlin]

you mean black coffee?

[lusty tiger]

I like milk in the coffee

[daring marlin]

or do you adulter it with cream too?

weirdboi

[lusty tiger]

I also like black coffee

[crude notch]

Lies.

[lusty tiger]

Depends on the mood

[sick sentinel]

been trying to get back into diablo 2 tbh

[crude notch]

You've already exposed yourself

[lusty tiger]

Yeah

[crude notch]

JK I love you jeree

[lusty tiger]

❤️

[vagrant oracle]

What if you just like, got a bottle of milk with a black coffee and added it yourself?

[lusty tiger]

I don’t have any

[lusty grotto]

ye milk is good

cream is yucky

[proper roost]

Just go to blizzard workplace, i'm sure you can rustle up some milk

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[lusty tiger]

Hmmm

[lusty grotto]

ez

inb4 the gif

[daring marlin]

Are you under house arrest?

???

[lusty tiger]

Basically

[crude notch]

LMAO

[lusty grotto]

guilford its your duty, you have homelander as avatar

[proper roost]

well he is jared

i mean.................

[lusty grotto]

all im saying is guilford and me have the best banners

[lusty tiger]

My roommate goes clubbing almost every weekend

[daring marlin]

I'm just Ken.

[lusty tiger]

And now we have covid

[crude notch]

False, I have the best banner

[lusty grotto]

eww cooties

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-dead-inside-gif-25853869

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-milk-gif-26214114