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dusky canopy
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But no dice lmao

proper roost
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well

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i mean idk how to put this kindly but guild stuck on experiments currently is generally gonna mean

dusky canopy
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The after raid chat finally got them to realize though

uneven mason
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aRe YOu harASSinG yogi again?

proper roost
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they have multiple major issues

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i mean this is true of any guild that didn't hof and plenty of hof guilds but more like

dusky canopy
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No you right absolutely

proper roost
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they aren't at that prog for no reason basically

dusky canopy
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I’m just getting some logs to move on up most likely

proper roost
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so can't expect too much, raid strat replanning midraid is very uncommon at that level

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or like correct replanning

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even though often times the correct play is to break for 5 minutes and look at logs

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mostly poor diagnosis of what went wrong

dusky canopy
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I’m still learning logs tbh

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I only understand how to look at my dps timing CPM etc

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I do not know how to process boss timing and damage taken

uneven mason
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This right here screams at me that the rl couldn't be fucked to read what the abilities do and just run off of whatever vod streamer they like

dusky canopy
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It’s a work in progress

uneven mason
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I'm all for going in blind at the start of a season or on hc, because whatever, but if you wipe on the same timing every time I can assure it's not going to be "a healer problem"

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Or in this case it was, but not throughput

dusky canopy
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Right I agree I think I have them convinced to look at that

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We need to like stop dps on boss 2 or something until they get the timing correct

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We kept missing the 0:58 timing on boss 1

proper roost
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eh you just hold the dispels for longer

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it's not really a huge issue

dusky canopy
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And that was snowballing us

proper roost
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it's kind of complicated timings

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the boss is very bad

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design

dusky canopy
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How long can people sit on the dispels?

proper roost
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well for that set not long cuz you have like 5 lol

dusky canopy
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The healer was basically dispelling like right as the breath was happening

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Consistently

proper roost
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but thats the complicated part you have to preempt that you'll hit both boss spawns during an aoe timing so you dispel just before that

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so you can get the next round of dispels during deep breath

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which is like 20 seconds into the 3rd boss spawn

dusky canopy
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And then we couldnt kill the adds before umbral

proper roost
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ok well that's when you want to dispel tbf

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are adds actually getting casts off? that sounds really bad

dusky canopy
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Yes

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Well

uneven mason
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So is this a DPS issue of not getting them down fast enough

dusky canopy
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Here and there

proper roost
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yeah i mean that's kind of a dps issue

dusky canopy
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Yes

proper roost
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well it depends ig

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do you have 2 priests

dusky canopy
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1 healer 1 shadow

proper roost
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or 3 ideally

uneven mason
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Sounded like they were dispelling just before umbral

dusky canopy
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Lots of mages locks

proper roost
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yeah so you should always have a mass

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if they're living through deep breath into next umbral

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that's dps issue

uneven mason
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Not in the mechanic before umbral

dusky canopy
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The breath keeps going over where the dispell happens

proper roost
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add dps in p3 is why i swapped to fury

dusky canopy
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So melee have downtime on the adds

proper roost
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yes that's normal

undone verge
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u guys been getting that bug where the wall doesnt break in p1 or p2?

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been pissing me off

uneven mason
dusky canopy
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Right right so that’s normal at least

proper roost
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yea

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you just have to kill it faster

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and have all rdps be on it

dusky canopy
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I’ll check last weeks logs in a bit

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I bet ranges are not swapping

uneven mason
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Also how many beacons?

dusky canopy
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Uh I think I might be the only one with it tbh

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lol

uneven mason
dusky canopy
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I’m not even running it

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I’m running oce Crit and anvil

uneven mason
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Because abusing those to burst adds can be a huge diff

dusky canopy
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Hmm I’ll have to suggest that

undone verge
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wait are we talking about experiments or echo?

dusky canopy
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Second bacon cast hold for first set of p3 adds

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Exp

undone verge
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what are we trying to figure out again?

dusky canopy
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Just chatting

uneven mason
dusky canopy
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The guild I’m trialing in

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Consistently wiping to p3 boss spawn

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All the overlaps

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Breath/dispel/add/ umbral

undone verge
undone verge
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its possible but it didnt happen

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we have replays and u can clearly see I got hit up and to the left when I collided with the wall

dusky canopy
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Coco I only have heroic pov but that is happened to me a ton

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I’ve gotten kicked from pugs for that

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Literally just a bug

uneven mason
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I think using a movement ability borks it, also jumping just before seems to wig it out

dusky canopy
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To me it seemed like leap was consistently bugging it out

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So I just stopped leaping for that

uneven mason
dusky canopy
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Yep same

proper roost
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just seems silly to even attempt this

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if it fucks up even 1% of the time

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due to a bug

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then give up your uptime lol ur literally a tank

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and boss DPS in p1 and p2 doesn't matter

uneven mason
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Yeah

undone verge
uneven mason
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Nah it's about breaking the walls so you can phase

undone verge
uneven mason
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In p2 anyway

undone verge
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if something bugs 1% of the time cause I charge I'm still charging instead of losing mega uptime

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1 out of 100 pulls is nothing

proper roost
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wildly cringe

undone verge
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nah, same reason Im not gonna slow dps if the other tank is loosing aggro, not my problem

proper roost
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wait

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is this

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heroic or mythic echo

undone verge
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mythic

proper roost
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ok lol wildly cringe

uneven mason
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I guess bdk?

undone verge
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Ppal

uneven mason
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I feel you

lusty tiger
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ppal fucks wtf

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i miss slands execute phase

undone verge
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sland execute was so fun

uneven mason
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My cotank is a ppal and I kept ripping aggro and was like "stop taunting"...one of the DPS had to point out I was doing double their damage

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And I'm fucking clown shoes for damage

lusty tiger
uneven mason
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Like 90s at best

undone verge
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I went through all my screenshots the other day and found this gem

lusty tiger
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ppal you have to know what your buttons do

uneven mason
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I guess the previous cotank didn't press buttons

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We're going into mythic and I'm contemplating going in on the druid

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But if I'm yanking aggro on the war already sadge

undone verge
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I dont like druid in raid

lusty tiger
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AS>wings>judge>sotr>judge>HoW>MoG>AS>DT>BoL
opener

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this opener or theyre toast

undone verge
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maul and ironfur competing for rage feels bad

uneven mason
undone verge
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aoe is so fun tho with thorns of iron

proper roost
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having damage meters on DPS instead of damage dealt is psychopath behavior

uneven mason
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Toi isn't for damage anymore

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The patch shifted things so raze is your ae pumper

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And if you really never need more than 1 stack

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Unless you need to dump rage

undone verge
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well yeah but im talking about the fact that you dont need to chose between maul or ironfur in aoe

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but ST you just send maul

uneven mason
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Yeah

undone verge
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thats what feels bad

uneven mason
undone verge
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like theres no reason to press ironfur in ST unless ur bad, be like if IP was on the gcd and shield slam cost rage

uneven mason
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Pressing button that slaps feel goid

strong forum
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can you believe there are tanks out there doing less dmg right now than you did in SL

uneven mason
proper roost
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i don't believe that tbh

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i want to see the logs of raid tank in at least heroic doing less than 7.5k dps

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i do not believe it is possible

strong forum
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7.5?

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hes doing 19k

toxic pewter
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I miss fun execute phase also

proper roost
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what huh

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that screenshot shows him doing 4.9

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i'm confused

uneven mason
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Log

strong forum
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idk what youre looking at

undone verge
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ur looking at my sepelchur trash dps when I was afk

strong forum
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but this is 19

proper roost
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oh

proper roost
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yeah i wanna see heroic raid logs of ppl doing less than 19k tank dps

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cuz i'm pretty sure just autoing and passive damage is that much lol

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and if not they need to be researched

dusky canopy
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Are you guys smoking crack?

waxen frigate
dusky canopy
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Jeree’s screenshot

strong forum
dusky canopy
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Shows 19k

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Lol

strong forum
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this is 10th percentile heroic tanks on kazzara

proper roost
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smoke dn

strong forum
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so its REALLY fucking close

proper roost
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ok those people are blasting, buff prot warrior

dusky canopy
strong forum
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this is 10th percentile 420ilvl range

toxic pewter
dusky canopy
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I don’t even begin to understand how a person does that little of damage to be honest

jagged pier
strong forum
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reminder

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with 420ilvl we simmed 65k dps last tier

dusky canopy
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You could literally press only SS and nothing else and probably beat 26k

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Lol…

toxic pewter
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Race to the bottom is the true competition in wow

proper roost
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give them a break

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tanking is hard and they need to focus on positioning

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and taunting

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you wouldn't understand elitism

dusky canopy
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Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think I press a movement key on kaz heroic

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Lmao

undone verge
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gotta strafe

dusky canopy
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Ok tbf

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The knock back

strong forum
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scripe said the other day that 90% of wow players can do first 3 mythic bosses

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theyre just too scared to do so

proper roost
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well have you ever thought that maybe that makes them a better tank than you

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they focus on movement and taunting. very impt

strong forum
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dude is so far out of touch with that one

lusty tiger
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my best mythic parse ever

undone verge
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90% is overstating it

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
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What percent of players even have aotc

undone verge
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theres a lot of bad players

sick sentinel
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My prediction is that I'll be getting helmet

proper roost
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stg all of you imposters main prot pally

strong forum
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maybe less

dusky canopy
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Negative ghost rider

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Warrior through and through

toxic pewter
waxen frigate
undone verge
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I feel like this raid is considered easier cause we got gear so fast this tier

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cause the race to world first was so quick

strong forum
dusky canopy
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I personally like the difficulty this season

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Sofo imo was to much

strong forum
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i love a raid thats easy

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cuz i dont like raiding

lusty tiger
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^

dusky canopy
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Yup same

waxen frigate
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SFO was way too much and blizz openly admitted that

lusty tiger
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no id rather wipe 100 times because of 2 retards

dusky canopy
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I’m not huge on it just want the best gear

toxic pewter
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I have better success in pugs than guilds

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Can’t seem to find a guild I actually enjoy

proper roost
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people calling raid easy because world first guilds clear it quickly are kinda weirdge imo

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their prog and stumbling blocks are so wildly diff from the average mythic guild

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even hof guilds

dusky canopy
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I don’t think it’s a walk in the park clearly since I’m still progging exp as a trial

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But generally

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It’s an easier raid

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You should recognize that no?

toxic pewter
undone verge
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I thought vault was easier until Rasz

proper roost
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i think its kinda pointless to recognize it

undone verge
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rasz is harder than sark

proper roost
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esp if you're a mythic raiding guild its just kind of a toxic mentality to hold anyway

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cuz ur just comparing to guilds that are way beyond ur own just like

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play the game

toxic pewter
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Not trying to be rude in my question

waxen frigate
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Lots of fights this tier that are considered “easy” are very challenging for the vast majority of guilds

proper roost
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it would be equally stupid to be like "yea X top tank says Y key is super easy i'm gonna blast it" u dont struggle with the same things they do lol

waxen frigate
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See: rashok, magmorax

toxic pewter
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It’s just so hard to gauge sometimes how expansive wow is

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For me at least

waxen frigate
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Particularly magmorax is absurdly underrated in terms of difficulty

strong forum
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you see how many people struggle with getting KSM/KSH

undone verge
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yeah like rashok is 100+ pulls for normal guilds now

waxen frigate
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It is a hard Dps check and unforgiving mechanics

proper roost
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just using other peoples' experience to make a statement about difficulty is just really pointless toxic and self defeating imo

strong forum
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and KSM and KSH are already pretty high achievements if you account the broad majority

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you just dont see em

crystal mauve
waxen frigate
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Exactly

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That’s your average player

lusty tiger
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then average players SUCK

waxen frigate
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Correct

strong forum
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thats news to you?

undone verge
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tbh tho ksm and ksh arent hard, people just think they are, like S1 of shadowlands when I sucked 15s were kicking my ass cause I overestimated the difficulty

strong forum
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for alot of people it is

waxen frigate
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Hard is relative

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I think they’re very easy

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But I’m not the majority of players

brazen yarrow
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3800io pwarr ama

undone verge
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why

waxen frigate
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Why is it hard?

undone verge
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no why are you 3800

brazen yarrow
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pretty sure that is not the majority of people

toxic pewter
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Why aren’t you 4000 io

brazen yarrow
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noob

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just get 4kio

waxen frigate
sick sentinel
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Ksm isn't too bad to get any more hero is sweaty

undone verge
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idk I got hero from just doing weekly 20s

waxen frigate
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Even yogi is an above average WoW player

sick sentinel
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And I think hero should have given flying mount master gives ground

undone verge
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100%

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hero should drop the mount not ksm

lusty tiger
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yogi would have ksh if this game was more like doom

sick sentinel
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Gives players reason to push

crude notch
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71% of people that have done a singular key don't have KSM in NA/OCE.

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Hell only 5% of keyers have done all 20s.

toxic pewter
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Is it around those % every season

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Or can vary you think

crude notch
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4.6% all 20s in Season 1.

undone verge
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does that 71% of players take into account alts tho? Cause like I have 7 alts who've done keys but dont have 2k io

toxic pewter
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Dang

waxen frigate
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High end players with tons of characters

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Some have ksm some don’t

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On their alts

undone verge
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true, but I feel like theres a lot more alts who dont have ksm but have run keys than do

jagged pier
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not accounts

crystal mauve
jagged pier
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but that wont scew the numbers too much

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like it just highlights most ppl are pretty bad

crude notch
toxic pewter
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Interesting

crystal mauve
crude notch
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6.7% S3 SL.

undone verge
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S4 of SL was actually so good

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the most fun ive ever had in m+

toxic pewter
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Honestly shadowlands seasonal affixes owned

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I think they added a lot of fun

undone verge
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SL mythic plus was so good, sucked there was nothing else good about that xpac

crude notch
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Nah it doesn't track pre-title, that's something that'd require far more work from me and I already have enough projects that involve that

undone verge
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except nathria

toxic pewter
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I had more fun in shadowlands than df so far personally

toxic pewter
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But we don’t need go down that road

undone verge
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I played SL casually and it was pretty fun, I didnt really interact with any of the really shitty systems, no doubt its one of/thee worst xpac tho

crude notch
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What you had most fun in has a lot more variables than what objectively is a good expansion for the playerbase.

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Like no matter what THD stans say AP is not objectively good for the entire playerbase.

proper roost
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project dn

lusty tiger
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THD, AP?

undone verge
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THD lock

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artifact power

jagged pier
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endless grind is never good, the thing about THD and ppl that say that joined the game during that time (im not sure about THD when he joined) but in general ppl that like AP literally new nothing else

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so they got used to always having something to do

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and when there isnt

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they say the game is bad

undone verge
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I feel like if the legion artifact power was hard capped, but still a decent grind, and was account wide it would have been recieved positively

jagged pier
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when for majority of ppl they dont want to sit in islands all day or constantly have to play

jagged pier
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by the end of legion where ppl didnt enjoy it anymore

undone verge
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100%

lusty tiger
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systems like that need to give catchup options every 2-4 weeks behind

jagged pier
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was too late to change that stuff

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well they probably could have changed SLs imo

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but im not a game dev

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so

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🤷

crude notch
undone verge
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Like I would love a grind that I can do at the start of expansions to signifigantly increase my characters power. Would fix the complaint about characters feeling weaker do to scaling, but 4months/a year and a half into the expansion I dont want to do that same grind on my 5 alts

crude notch
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All catchup systems should work like sparks, tbh.

lusty tiger
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^

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fasho

undone verge
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true

lusty tiger
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2-4 weeks behind max

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reward grinders but dont hard punish casuals

crude notch
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well no i can make a toon now that'd be 11 weeks behind and by end of day have all my sparks, that's what i mean

lusty tiger
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youre 1 spark behind if you dont quest i thought

undone verge
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1 spark behind, but thats like 10 minutes of doing the weekly niflin quest

jagged pier
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imma say it in the .5 patch things should become account wide

crude notch
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"if you don't quest"... .5 a spark, yes.

jagged pier
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crests should be account wide

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i dont want to grind them again on alts

crude notch
jagged pier
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like 50 aspect crests on main

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i cant do anything with

lusty tiger
undone verge
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crests are a big offender and need to become account wide

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NA servers just came back up if anyone here cares

crude notch
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inb4 yogi says "but they said it'd be 4 hours".

jagged pier
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4hrs dn

undone verge
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typical blizzard, lying to the player base

waxen frigate
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But they said it’d be four hours

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😦

lusty tiger
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frick blizzard

waxen frigate
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Can they just keep the servers down until I get home

undone verge
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if we all ddos the servers we might be able to make it happen

waxen frigate
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Ok

undone verge
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trash loot

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beacon and chromatic

sudden palm
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Does Dark Iron D work against sarka's debuff? Or only normal dwarf?

strong forum
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both dwarfs dispell the same stuff

sudden palm
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Thank you

sick sentinel
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if you got it, you got it

strong forum
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it is kinda dumb that it is character specific yes

sick sentinel
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should be like, if you beat the mythic raid, you get fast travel teleport to the raid

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as well

crystal mauve
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The mount is already account wide, why not the portals too indeed, I worked for that quality of like, let me enjoy it 🙂

crude notch
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yogi

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vault?

sick sentinel
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4 hrs tho

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3 now

crude notch
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I will literally

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Slit

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server is up yyogi

sick sentinel
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open as arms again?

hushed harbor
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So, prot pally is currently doing more dmg in raids, but they are getting an 8% dmg bump while we are seeing 7%. Am I missing something obvious? This isn't a prot pally attack, happy for the buff, I just don't get the 1% difference.

crude notch
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It was to give you something to talk about

sick sentinel
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thats the easiest fuckin pick of my life

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go catalyst that

crude notch
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Isn't

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Isn't your current helm 441 with socket?

sick sentinel
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hero

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this myth

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you are technically correct however

south zealot
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sheesh

sick sentinel
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HUGE

crude notch
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Where's harrow

sick sentinel
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more leech than masteryxan

south zealot
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i need to make a belt now

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fuck i dont have a socket item

sick sentinel
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just be gigachad like me and loot myth socketed helm

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WYM

south zealot
sick sentinel
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i got 2 vaults for the price of one

dusky canopy
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Y’all got any of them vault pics

proper roost
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wait

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isnt the helm tier 450

dusky canopy
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Not M+ slot

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Raid slot would be

proper roost
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choco is ce

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so we can laugh at him for not having 450 helm

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
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i need flight stones for 447

south zealot
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gloves

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and u can catalyze gloves and hands

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missing 2 pieces of gear deadge

crude notch
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gloves and hands

proper roost
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Lame

crude notch
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sheesh

south zealot
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shouldvers and hands

proper roost
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Nice 450 ashkandur lol

south zealot
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o wait im missing 3 ilvl on shield too

crude notch
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Yo are you max ilvl yet?

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ye

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was gonna say

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WTF

south zealot
crude notch
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bracers?

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hello?

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int'ing?

proper roost
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No 457 sark cloak either

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Bad palyer lol

south zealot
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holyyyy

strong forum
crude notch
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kekw what a loser

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441 bracers, omegalul

south zealot
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sark gear dropping tonight and im looting both for sure

nocturne spindle
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AWWW SHIETTT

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i dont even know what to pick

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447 anvil or dargrul

south zealot
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anvil

crude notch
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socket

nocturne spindle
crude notch
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was there a meta on which movie to go to first?

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I think it was here it was being discussed

strong forum
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Anvil

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By a long shot

strong forum
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But I can't cuz shit isn't in english here

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So it's just gonna be a worse experience

lusty tiger
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fly to usa to watch

strong forum
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Same as the Mario movie was just worse cuz it wasn't in english

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It was alright, but not having jackblack bowser is a crime

crude notch
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smh

strong forum
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Slt can kill a bdk

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Very funny

crude notch
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I hate RShams stealing my FR and my DS

proper roost
crude notch
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lol

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Yeah everything I'm hearing is oppenheimer second more because of the weight

strong forum
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Do the full offmeta

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Watch Mission impossible first

proper roost
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but then again u could argue the other way around because of the length

crude notch
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TRUE

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lmao

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I was actually thinking of doing that

proper roost
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if u watch oppenheimer first u can use your brain, then brain off for barbie

strong forum
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Wrong

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Barbie is full brain on cuz it's literally me

proper roost
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@lusty grotto Wellness check (he got bad vaults again)

crude notch
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MI @ 250p, Barbie @ 6p, Oppenheimer @ 930p

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I think that's the angle

proper roost
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which one are u gonna get blitzed at though

lusty tiger
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i would be asleep

strong forum
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Well planned day

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But also my legs would kill me

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From so much sitting

lusty tiger
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how can you sit in a dark room for 9hrs without falling asleep

crude notch
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I'd go for a nice 30 minute walk after Barbie

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EZ clap tbh

proper roost
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have u guys never done a 10 hour continuous key grind before

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full degen

toxic pewter
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Yea

proper roost
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cmon now...

toxic pewter
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I’ve done 10 days of straight 10 hours

lusty tiger
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well i got up to pee and drink and grab a snack at least once- maybe wash my face

crude notch
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imagine getting up to pee

lusty tiger
#

i mean

proper roost
#

Thats literally what the piss holders in the seats are for

#

hello??

lusty tiger
#

piss...holder?

south zealot
#

ok whos doing keys on na

crude notch
#

lolllllllllll

south zealot
#

im 391 bear i can do 20s right

crude notch
#

ye

charred valley
#

MEOW

lusty tiger
#

this guy uses the litterbox

crude notch
#

Or do I spread it out over multiple days to fully grasp my birthday week?

lusty tiger
#

happy birthday year

proper roost
#

happy birthday

#

I'll come watch mission barbieheimer with you

crude notch
#

i love it

dusky canopy
#

Mission barbiehemier when?

crude notch
#

Actually Kanga you reinvigorated me to see all three I was gonna spread it out we're doing it live!

proper roost
#

let's go

#

I'll buy you drinks

dusky canopy
#

Bro that’s hot

plush tendon
#

we not gonna talk about how ugly Troll Warrior is

dusky canopy
#

Nah troll warrior actually cool imo

plush tendon
#

C tier warrior race easily

dusky canopy
#

But dwarf

plush tendon
#

especially if you could be Orc or Tauren

dusky canopy
#

Racial

crude notch
#

Troll is hard trolling.

plush tendon
#

doesnt even have shoes on

dusky canopy
#

I was troll up until I could be dwarf and still game with the horde homies

#

Yeah shoes is the L part

#

Honestly

proper roost
#

its not his race thats ugly

#

its his transmog

plush tendon
proper roost
#

Firelands pally tier recolor set

#

🤮

plush tendon
#

yea, the tmog not doing any favors

dusky canopy
#

Yo but the engi goggles bro

#

Those are sick

proper roost
#

nah

south zealot
#

the tmog is sick dude

proper roost
#

there are proper glasses transmogs that look nice

plush tendon
#

goggles dont fix that travesty

proper roost
#

now

#

they are funny

dusky canopy
#

What race has the biggest weapon to character size ratio?

#

Would it be female human?

waxen frigate
#

Human bis for all classes

waxen frigate
#

Depends on the sword though

#

Some of them are very reasonably sized

dusky canopy
#

Let’s say nax* weapon

south zealot
#

fire mogs

lusty tiger
#

troll warrior is sick

proper roost
south zealot
brazen yarrow
#

how get hat

dusky canopy
#

Yo bis mog

proper roost
#

not red panda tail

L

#

choco really just making all the wrong appearance choices

#

left and right

dusky canopy
waxen frigate
brazen yarrow
#

kms

plush tendon
#

youll be able to get it again

proper roost
dusky canopy
#

Don’t worry it’ll come back around

waxen frigate
dusky canopy
#

@brazen yarrow

uneven mason
#

how poggers is OCE?

plush tendon
#

might not be until next Feb

dusky canopy
plush tendon
south zealot
#

i wanna do keys but bolsteringggg

proper roost
#

nish why are ur characters so shit geared

waxen frigate
proper roost
#

Ok link brm

waxen frigate
#

My monk is like 446

proper roost
#

Prove

dusky canopy
#

My mog is super lazy

#

I’m just in wotlk set and a pirate hat

waxen frigate
#

444 equipped last I logged out

#

Because eranog ring

proper roost
#

so they know who theyre dealing with

dusky canopy
#

Wow armory?

proper roost
waxen frigate
#

???

#

I look good

proper roost
#

also wait I just remembered

#

Why tf did ur guild have u go on bdk for zskarn bombs

#

and not brm

sick sentinel
#

hard to complain

proper roost
#

literally the best tank for it

#

???

waxen frigate
#

I wasn’t bombs

#

I was grip duty

proper roost
#

Wow

#

Thats cursed

brazen yarrow
#

will it ever come back

#

or is hope lost

#

man this trader shit gives me mad fomo

south zealot
#

wtf am i supposed to do today

sick sentinel
#

did ur vualt get fucked

lusty tiger
#

and restorer them 1 week at a time

waxen frigate
#

But now I’m forever at 8/9 bc I quit

dusky canopy
proper roost
#

just get ce

lusty tiger
proper roost
#

wtf

waxen frigate
proper roost
#

oh right its because he left to go join a classic guild doing normal mode toc

waxen frigate
#

Realized I was so burnt out I just didn’t give a single fuck

proper roost
#

smh...

dusky canopy
#

Man if I was 8/9 there’s no way I wouldn’t see it through

#

SMH man

#

Rip

proper roost
#

just roll a fucking dk mage and join mine

#

ur in such a bad

#

place

waxen frigate
#

Mage kekw

#

No

#

I want to assert dominance over classic andies

dusky canopy
#

Yo nish fire actually kinda slaps right now

#

Like gameplay wise

waxen frigate
#

I don’t like casters period

proper roost
#

Mage is literally the meta spec u clown baboon

waxen frigate
#

So

dusky canopy
#

They got rid of that sunkings shit

#

It’s way better now imo

#

I mean you still have sunkings

#

It’s just different

proper roost
#

no we're talking about the bad version of the game

#

Sadly

waxen frigate
#

Also again

#

My guild is 50/50 togc

#

I just pugged normal

#

Bc I’m not geared yet

proper roost
#

doubt

#

purchase 50k legally (not) and go to a gdkp

#

with a mage

waxen frigate
proper roost
#

i know bene guilds

waxen frigate
#

It’s just a dad guild but

#

I get ez loot prio for being friends with the RL and a chad retail player

lusty tiger
#

nerd

waxen frigate
#

Ez clap

chilly brook
#

me no wanna raid togc tonight

south zealot
#

linking retail parses for classic is better than linking classic parses

waxen frigate
#

Meanwhile I’m just smashing whatever comes off CD as Ret

chilly brook
lusty tiger
#

most classic players cannot fathom retail

waxen frigate
chilly brook
#

like actually classic parses are the definition of bullshit tbh

lusty tiger
#

i mean they tell a little bit

#

but at the top end they are bullshit

dusky canopy
#

You engibomb pre cast banner and a pot?

#

Well rip your parse bro

proper roost
#

though

#

my RL is ~r3 US spriest so he may not be as impressed

south zealot
#

rank 3 us

proper roost
#

and like r6 prev

south zealot
#

holy

waxen frigate
#

My raid lead is in DMG/formerly SPK in retail 🤷‍♂️

proper roost
#

the prev is world rank because everyone rerolled hpal keks

daring marlin
#

Barbie fucking owned

#

wtf

proper roost
#

idk man he looked at ur tank parses

daring marlin
#

A movie about barbie has no business being that good

proper roost
#

that's not a good sign

waxen frigate
#

Ur confusing the GM and raid lead

#

The raid lead is my friend

proper roost
#

im ur friend

waxen frigate
#

Who is well aware my tank parses don’t mean shit

chilly brook
#

who cares tho

#

it's classic

proper roost
#

if the RL was in dmg why did they wipe 30 times in a row to anub heroic

#

:susge:

chilly brook
#

it's dummy ez

waxen frigate
waxen frigate
south zealot
#

its push week

proper roost
#

have you seen that log?

#

buddy

south zealot
#

whos pushing keys

proper roost
#

they literally raided for like 8 hours straight on a 5 boss instance

waxen frigate
#

Whatcha pushin bud

proper roost
#

r u sure u wanna call that a dad guild

#

r u sure

waxen frigate
#

Where tf did they raid for 8hrs

proper roost
#

week 1 of toc release

daring marlin
proper roost
#

i literally have the log pulled up right now

daring marlin
#

even tho bolster is free now

proper roost
south zealot
#

i cant wait to omega bolster the big boys in freehold and get meleed from behind for fun

waxen frigate
daring marlin
#

Kanga is soft confirmed

waxen frigate
#

Have I been gaslit

proper roost
#

i mean

chilly brook
#

my classic guild sucks

proper roost
#

it's complicated and i dont really wanna discuss it here because its cringe

#

but actually being good classic guild is completely different metrics and u have to look at random other shit lol

waxen frigate
#

Bro I’m just tryna game

#

Now that I’ve achieved r1 pwarr raiderio

proper roost
#

i mean agreedge but perhaps then dont join the guild that extended for 6h plus added a nonschedule raid day

#

to clear normal and then forced them to do alg

lusty tiger
#

WTF

waxen frigate
#

Surely it’s optional clueless

proper roost
#

you definitely are conned rn

chilly brook
#

Didn't he say the rl is his friend?

proper roost
#

but you won't realize until ICC

waxen frigate
#

Oh well

proper roost
#

if i look at ulduar logs it'll be even worse i'm sure

waxen frigate
#

Worst case scenario I don’t raid

dusky canopy
#

What a time to be alive, fort bolster

#

Push week”

proper roost
lusty tiger
#

finally a tank affix(Still a healer affix)

proper roost
#

i log on for 2 hours a week with the boys and bullshit and it owns

waxen frigate
#

If it goes poorly sure

#

But for now they’re helping gear me up at least

#

Baldurs gate 3 is next week anyway

chilly brook
#

too bad I'm going to be out of town starting the 2nd through the 9th

#

so I won't be playing until a week after release

dusky canopy
#

What’s for lunch

modern brook
#

chicken and rice

daring marlin
#

taco bowl

proper roost
#

but u'll miss out on 3 months of the boys

#

😔

waxen frigate
#

🤷‍♂️

lusty tiger
#

Chinese food

#

5 days a week

proper roost
#

based

lusty tiger
#
World of Warcraft Forums

Throw heals at the tank anyway and waste globals/mana if you want to see hps go brrrrr. Tanks being self sufficent to an extent is fine as it allows you to focus on the other 4 people. A tank is NEVER going to outhps you on a fight like Bromach, Asaad, Emberon, Monstrosity, or the 3rd boss of HoI because they all kind of do negligible tank dama...

proper roost
#

so based

#

yo anybody love tank healing :batchest:

lusty tiger
#

If they gave more effective ways to tank heal that’d be cool

plush tendon
#

yo, we got some classic Wow forum posts

#

always full of hot takes

proper roost
#

This idea that dungeons are loaded with “unavoidable aoe damage” is clearly false.

crude notch
#

jeree is on block now

#

Nothing will piss off tanks more than if you remove the power for them to keep themselves alive again.

lusty tiger
#

Inb4 prot warrior existing

lusty tiger
#

Inb4 monk existing

#

Expel harm strike so based

crude notch
#

Jeree

#

You opened with

dusky canopy
#

Literally remove tank healing I want to keep myself alive

#

As any tank

plush tendon
#

If I remember correctly; all tanks require the same amount of external healing

#

or at least, within a standard deviation of each other

lusty tiger
#

Well 1 standard deviation is a lot

proper roost
#

shut up

plush tendon
#

mostly due to tuning

proper roost
#

anyways yeah external healing req isn't that different per tank

plush tendon
#

or damage type

proper roost
#

it's only noticeable if the tank is extremely bad

#

or like pwar eats a bleed

#

(lul)

lusty tiger
#

I do think tanks should be able to keep themself alive

plush tendon
crude notch
#

Bleeds are the "tank needs healing from healer" check.

#

Like that's the design of dots/bleeds on tanks

plush tendon
#

I no longer know what healers want anymore

crude notch
#

Obviously some tanks have ways of dealing with it themselves

plush tendon
#

do they want to heal a lot, do they not want to heal a lot, do damage, no damage

proper roost
#

i want healers to be nerfed

#

they are too strong this season

#

unironically

crude notch
lusty tiger
#

??

#

Really healers r too strong?

plush tendon
#

or just press flash heal and jump whenever they dont actually need to heal anything

proper roost
#

jerees should be seen and not heard

lusty tiger
#

LMFAO

crude notch
#

actually they shouldn't even be seen

#

purge all jerees

#

Mila Kunis told me to buy a battle pet and honestly, I'd do it every time

lusty tiger
#

Wtf

#

Fk Ukraine

dusky canopy
crude notch
#

uh

#

choose your next words wisely jeree

lusty tiger
crude notch
#

the mod ping is a hovering

#

Yes, I was literally talking about that.

lusty tiger
#

Yes let me fund a war with my in game donations

crude notch
#

Holy shit

dusky canopy
#

You think that’s funding the war??

#

Ok I’m going to just skip this convo actually.
Inb4 valkyr

lusty tiger
#

Ah ok I’m done

#

Just saying I don’t think donations to refugees and stuff through these kind of charities are very honest

crude notch
#

Anyways, shut the heck up before I have to go get banned because you're ignorant

lusty tiger
#

: D

crude notch
#

sorry no swearing

chilly brook
#

People really out here getting big mad on both sides

proper roost
#

i'm more like big hungy because i didn't have lunch!

dusky canopy
#

Mmmm

crude notch
#

Alright if you've never been in a country that's had a war happening in it, don't weigh in on the topic, sound good?

chilly brook
#

anyways tldr buy the thing to support the thing if you want or don't, all up to you

lusty tiger
#

Fried rice n chicken inc

crude notch
#

You're not supporting a war if you buy the pet

#

So stop being ignorant

chilly brook
#

the discord prolly isn't a great place to weigh in on your feelings about it either way

proper roost
#

i'm getting big thing of noodles with my friend later

#

so i will suffer through hungy

#

i had some chocolate

plush tendon
#

Im making pasta and meat sauce tonight before raid

chilly brook
plush tendon
#

but didnt pack a lunch today.... but good thing I got Granola Bars

dusky canopy
#

Ok a simple clarification can’t hurt right?
The buying a pet would support the folks over there who are suffering losses of any form due to the Russian invasion. HELLO?
Please use brain.

lusty tiger
#

I don’t like blizzard’s use of that issue as a way to advertise buying something

dusky canopy
#

I would assume it’s non profit on blizzards end no?

chilly brook
#

It's not the first time they've sold pets to help donate

sick sentinel
#

Former President Donald Trump speaks with CNN’s Kaitlan Collins about the war in Ukraine and how he would handle the conflict as president.

Donald Trump urged Republicans to force America into an unprecedented default if President Biden did not make huge spending cuts, during a wide-ranging town hall when he doubled down on hardline positions ...

▶ Play video
waxen frigate
#

^

proper roost
#

the discord prolly isn't a great place to weigh in on your feelings about it either way

sick sentinel
#

i want everybody to stop DYING

proper roost
#

yogi

#

jesus christ

chilly brook
dusky canopy
#

No yogi don’t do that

plush tendon
dusky canopy
#

Public forum

sick sentinel
#

im not for war is my stance

proper roost
#

ok cya guys later

chilly brook
#

Again

#

buy the thing if you want to support the thing

#

don't if you don't

#

move on

#

ez clap

lusty tiger
#

I’m not telling anybody how to spend their money

#

Do what you like

dusky canopy
#

Agreed simple and straight forward. @chilly brook

crude notch
#

Sorry if someone brings up an idiotic take like "this is funding the war", they deserve to be called out.

chilly brook
#

I bought Daisy back in covid days or w/e just cuz I wanted sloth that I could have on my back

crude notch
#

Because that's that dumb shit.

chilly brook
sick sentinel
#

i think what blizzard is doing is moral

dusky canopy
#

Btw griff

#

Big ole Sammies

sick sentinel
#

i dunno if im gunna get it or not but i wont make a statement if i do or not

dusky canopy
#

Are the best

#

Like foot long with the works

chilly brook
chilly brook
#

TLDR, they're not making money on it within that window

plush tendon
#

my favorite sandwich to make is chicken cutlet, bacon, bbq sauce on a wedge; can add cheese if you want

brittle owl
#

it's cheap marketing

plush tendon
#

its a fire sandwich

brittle owl
#

cheap af

crude notch
#

I mean it's a charity drive, it's not new.

brittle owl
modern gazelle
#

is bolstering bad? group i was with said it was one of the tougher affixes, felt non existent lol

crude notch
#

That's a real sandwich

dusky canopy
#

Time to devour said sammich

#

😈

chilly brook
south zealot
#

idk man i just get turkey, bacon, and black olives

brittle owl
#

i'd prefer 1 or 2 types of meat in a sandwich

plush tendon
#

and depends on what you bolster

#

and when you bolster it

brittle owl
#

that many meats the flavours start to mingle too much and it becomes a mess

crude notch
modern gazelle
crude notch
#

no longer increases hp

#

only damage

chilly brook
#

bolstering used to be dummy bad lol

#

HP increase meant pulls lasted 10 years

plush tendon
#

and it would never drop

brittle owl
#

if you playrd the pack bad

crude notch
#

Now you just gotta kill the guy before he bellows.

plush tendon
#

or you could bolster bosses

crude notch
#

iykyk

dusky canopy
#

Tanks going to love me this week

chilly brook
#

now since HP doesn't go nutty you can kinda just indiscriminently kill things

dusky canopy
#

I’m still playing prio damage build

crude notch
#

I love you every week breww

plush tendon
#

Freehold Bolstering is a bit whack

dusky canopy
#

Fukem that’s why

proper roost
#

prio dn

plush tendon
#

dem bellows slam

brittle owl
#

bolster dn

chilly brook
#

as long as you can kill other things without dying

dusky canopy
south zealot
#

GUYS I AM NOW HAVOC MAIN

crude notch
#

wow

plush tendon
#

honestly, best bolstering dungeon is prob VP

dusky canopy
uneven mason
dusky canopy
#

Gtfo

proper roost
south zealot
#

THIS SHIT IS SO FUN

#

caps

proper roost
#

insanely true and based

plush tendon
#

the sheen will wear off in about 30 mins

#

VDH is where its at though

crude notch
#

momentum is banned

proper roost
#

bro on rashok i was like "man it looks like havoc is having so fun fr he's zip zop zwooping everywhere"

crude notch
#

Momentum enjoyers are absolutely the most cringe players in WoW

#

frfr

dusky canopy
#

zip zop zwoopin

south zealot
#

momentum is the most fun the game can offer

lusty grotto
#

2-hander vault yay

dusky canopy
south zealot
#

reminds me of reprisal + banner gladge

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
#

momentum is fun part of most games

lusty grotto
#

socket time lets go

lusty tiger
#

Momentum on Terros and VP first boss deadge

chilly brook
#

WW

dusky canopy
#

Hard agree

south zealot
#

no dude i cant ply that spec

#

it just doesnt work for me

dusky canopy
#

WW owns

proper roost
dusky canopy
#

I play warrior and when I’m not playing warrior I play monk

#

Best classes in game

chilly brook
#

y'know what else is fun?

sick sentinel
#

i play warrior cuz shield and plate armor

chilly brook
#

being a dragon

dusky canopy
#

Logging off*

crude notch
#

you know

brittle owl
sick sentinel
#

no, paladin is different

crude notch
#

damnit brew beat me

south zealot
#

the first time i played momentum on rashok i got hit by 0 puddles

chilly brook
dusky canopy
south zealot
#

usually i run into 2 or 3

sick sentinel
#

paladins cant use fist weapons and daggers and pole arms and crosbows

south zealot
#

its a buff confirmed

proper roost
sick sentinel
#

so paladins suck

brittle owl
sick sentinel
#

yeah, should a holy paladin be able to use an intellect staff

#

they are casters and they use 2 hand weapon for ret

chilly brook
proper roost
#

2 handed intellect weapons don't also have strength yogi

#

they can't be reused regardless

sick sentinel
#

sure, but why cant a paladin use a staff

uneven mason
proper roost
#

but also holy paladin literally needs shield currently because of how the spec works

#

yogi do not try to bring sense into this, warrior cannot wield staves despite them being long handles of wood

brittle owl
#

chads use hammers

proper roost
#

wands*

chilly brook
brittle owl
#

BUTBUTBUT

#

dual weild staff