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well
i mean idk how to put this kindly but guild stuck on experiments currently is generally gonna mean
The after raid chat finally got them to realize though
aRe YOu harASSinG yogi again?
they have multiple major issues
i mean this is true of any guild that didn't hof and plenty of hof guilds but more like
No you right absolutely
they aren't at that prog for no reason basically
I’m just getting some logs to move on up most likely
so can't expect too much, raid strat replanning midraid is very uncommon at that level
or like correct replanning
even though often times the correct play is to break for 5 minutes and look at logs
mostly poor diagnosis of what went wrong
I’m still learning logs tbh
I only understand how to look at my dps timing CPM etc
I do not know how to process boss timing and damage taken
This right here screams at me that the rl couldn't be fucked to read what the abilities do and just run off of whatever vod streamer they like
It’s a work in progress
I'm all for going in blind at the start of a season or on hc, because whatever, but if you wipe on the same timing every time I can assure it's not going to be "a healer problem"
Or in this case it was, but not throughput
Right I agree I think I have them convinced to look at that
We need to like stop dps on boss 2 or something until they get the timing correct
We kept missing the 0:58 timing on boss 1
And that was snowballing us
How long can people sit on the dispels?
well for that set not long cuz you have like 5 lol
The healer was basically dispelling like right as the breath was happening
Consistently
but thats the complicated part you have to preempt that you'll hit both boss spawns during an aoe timing so you dispel just before that
so you can get the next round of dispels during deep breath
which is like 20 seconds into the 3rd boss spawn
And then we couldnt kill the adds before umbral
ok well that's when you want to dispel tbf
are adds actually getting casts off? that sounds really bad
So is this a DPS issue of not getting them down fast enough
Here and there
yeah i mean that's kind of a dps issue
Yes
1 healer 1 shadow
or 3 ideally
Sounded like they were dispelling just before umbral
Lots of mages locks
yeah so you should always have a mass
if they're living through deep breath into next umbral
that's dps issue
Not in the mechanic before umbral
The breath keeps going over where the dispell happens
add dps in p3 is why i swapped to fury
So melee have downtime on the adds
yes that's normal
u guys been getting that bug where the wall doesnt break in p1 or p2?
been pissing me off
Because he gravitates to the largest stack of people iirc
Right right so that’s normal at least
Also how many beacons?

Because abusing those to burst adds can be a huge diff
Hmm I’ll have to suggest that
wait are we talking about experiments or echo?
what are we trying to figure out again?
Just chatting
I've noticed since I've gone dwarf I bounce off the wall occasionally
The guild I’m trialing in
Consistently wiping to p3 boss spawn
All the overlaps
Breath/dispel/add/ umbral
my raid lead actually got mega pissed at me cause he tried to tell me I never hit the wall and the reason it didnt break is cause I charged too early
That's possible
its possible but it didnt happen
we have replays and u can clearly see I got hit up and to the left when I collided with the wall
Coco I only have heroic pov but that is happened to me a ton
I’ve gotten kicked from pugs for that
Literally just a bug
I think using a movement ability borks it, also jumping just before seems to wig it out
To me it seemed like leap was consistently bugging it out
So I just stopped leaping for that
I literally went through the wall on p2 and got trapped in the other side but didn't break
Yep same
just seems silly to even attempt this
if it fucks up even 1% of the time
due to a bug
then give up your uptime lol ur literally a tank
and boss DPS in p1 and p2 doesn't matter
Yeah
that happened to me twice as well in p2
Nah it's about breaking the walls so you can phase
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c3NH6bRjFQYBKvnX#fight=40&view=replay anyway its here at 1:33
In p2 anyway
if something bugs 1% of the time cause I charge I'm still charging instead of losing mega uptime
1 out of 100 pulls is nothing
wildly cringe
nah, same reason Im not gonna slow dps if the other tank is loosing aggro, not my problem
mythic
ok lol wildly cringe
Here here, well said
Especially if their losing aggro to a warrior
I guess bdk?
Ppal
sland execute was so fun
My cotank is a ppal and I kept ripping aggro and was like "stop taunting"...one of the DPS had to point out I was doing double their damage
And I'm fucking clown shoes for damage
Like 90s at best
I went through all my screenshots the other day and found this gem
ppal you have to know what your buttons do
Yeah they fixed it and started keeping up
I guess the previous cotank didn't press buttons
We're going into mythic and I'm contemplating going in on the druid
But if I'm yanking aggro on the war already 
I dont like druid in raid
maul and ironfur competing for rage feels bad
They have a heroic beacon now at least
aoe is so fun tho with thorns of iron
having damage meters on DPS instead of damage dealt is psychopath behavior
Wat
Toi isn't for damage anymore
The patch shifted things so raze is your ae pumper
And if you really never need more than 1 stack
Unless you need to dump rage
well yeah but im talking about the fact that you dont need to chose between maul or ironfur in aoe
but ST you just send maul
Yeah
thats what feels bad

like theres no reason to press ironfur in ST unless ur bad, be like if IP was on the gcd and shield slam cost rage
Pressing button that slaps feel goid
can you believe there are tanks out there doing less dmg right now than you did in SL
Toi is a st ability that is divided between all targets
i don't believe that tbh
i want to see the logs of raid tank in at least heroic doing less than 7.5k dps
i do not believe it is possible
how is that possible
I miss fun execute phase also
Log
ur looking at my sepelchur trash dps when I was afk
but this is 19
oh
yeah i wanna see heroic raid logs of ppl doing less than 19k tank dps
cuz i'm pretty sure just autoing and passive damage is that much lol
and if not they need to be researched
Are you guys smoking crack?

Jeree’s screenshot
this is 10th percentile heroic tanks on kazzara
smoke dn
so its REALLY fucking close
ok those people are blasting, buff prot warrior
this is 10th percentile 420ilvl range

I don’t even begin to understand how a person does that little of damage to be honest

Race to the bottom is the true competition in wow
give them a break
tanking is hard and they need to focus on positioning
and taunting
you wouldn't understand elitism
gotta strafe
scripe said the other day that 90% of wow players can do first 3 mythic bosses
theyre just too scared to do so
well have you ever thought that maybe that makes them a better tank than you
they focus on movement and taunting. very impt
dude is so far out of touch with that one
my best mythic parse ever
90% is overstating it
Insanely out of touc
What percent of players even have aotc
theres a lot of bad players
My prediction is that I'll be getting helmet
stg all of you imposters main prot pally
Dang and this is generally considered an easy raid
A lot of people who say this raid is “easy” aren’t even raiding this tier
I feel like this raid is considered easier cause we got gear so fast this tier
cause the race to world first was so quick
there are normal and heroic progress guilds
^
Yup same
SFO was way too much and blizz openly admitted that
no id rather wipe 100 times because of 2 retards
I’m not huge on it just want the best gear
I have better success in pugs than guilds
Can’t seem to find a guild I actually enjoy
people calling raid easy because world first guilds clear it quickly are kinda weirdge imo
their prog and stumbling blocks are so wildly diff from the average mythic guild
even hof guilds
I don’t think it’s a walk in the park clearly since I’m still progging exp as a trial
But generally
It’s an easier raid
You should recognize that no?
So like there are guilds as I type this that are unironically and quite seriously progressing on bosses in normal?
I thought vault was easier until Rasz
i think its kinda pointless to recognize it
yes
rasz is harder than sark
esp if you're a mythic raiding guild its just kind of a toxic mentality to hold anyway
cuz ur just comparing to guilds that are way beyond ur own just like
play the game
Not trying to be rude in my question
Lots of fights this tier that are considered “easy” are very challenging for the vast majority of guilds
it would be equally stupid to be like "yea X top tank says Y key is super easy i'm gonna blast it" u dont struggle with the same things they do lol
See: rashok, magmorax
Particularly magmorax is absurdly underrated in terms of difficulty
you see how many people struggle with getting KSM/KSH
yeah like rashok is 100+ pulls for normal guilds now
It is a hard Dps check and unforgiving mechanics
just using other peoples' experience to make a statement about difficulty is just really pointless toxic and self defeating imo
and KSM and KSH are already pretty high achievements if you account the broad majority
you just dont see em
Yes, some friends of mine are rally casuals and don’t know what Details/WA/Addons are. They are progressing in normal/heroic and only play maybe 2/3h/week.
then average players SUCK
Correct
thats news to you?
tbh tho ksm and ksh arent hard, people just think they are, like S1 of shadowlands when I sucked 15s were kicking my ass cause I overestimated the difficulty
for alot of people it is
3800io pwarr ama
why
Why is it hard?
no why are you 3800
pretty sure that is not the majority of people
Why aren’t you 4000 io
God gamer
Ksm isn't too bad to get any more hero is sweaty
idk I got hero from just doing weekly 20s
Even yogi is an above average WoW player
And I think hero should have given flying mount master gives ground
yogi would have ksh if this game was more like doom
Gives players reason to push
71% of people that have done a singular key don't have KSM in NA/OCE.
Hell only 5% of keyers have done all 20s.
4.6% all 20s in Season 1.
does that 71% of players take into account alts tho? Cause like I have 7 alts who've done keys but dont have 2k io
Dang
It does but it goes both ways
High end players with tons of characters
Some have ksm some don’t
On their alts
if its from io its chars
true, but I feel like theres a lot more alts who dont have ksm but have run keys than do
not accounts
You have the portals for 20s and that’s cool 🙂 after that it’s a matter of pushing for the title only
but that wont scew the numbers too much
like it just highlights most ppl are pretty bad
5.5% in S4 SL. So it's pretty consistent
Interesting
S4 SL was busted tho, do you have s2 maybe?
6.7% S3 SL.
SL mythic plus was so good, sucked there was nothing else good about that xpac
Nah it doesn't track pre-title, that's something that'd require far more work from me and I already have enough projects that involve that
except nathria
I had more fun in shadowlands than df so far personally

But we don’t need go down that road
I played SL casually and it was pretty fun, I didnt really interact with any of the really shitty systems, no doubt its one of/thee worst xpac tho
What you had most fun in has a lot more variables than what objectively is a good expansion for the playerbase.
Like no matter what THD stans say AP is not objectively good for the entire playerbase.
project dn
THD, AP?
endless grind is never good, the thing about THD and ppl that say that joined the game during that time (im not sure about THD when he joined) but in general ppl that like AP literally new nothing else
so they got used to always having something to do
and when there isnt
they say the game is bad
I feel like if the legion artifact power was hard capped, but still a decent grind, and was account wide it would have been recieved positively
when for majority of ppl they dont want to sit in islands all day or constantly have to play
well thats the issue right so the way expansion are made are like a few years in advanced so they were making bfa and shadowland well ideas for SL systems at the start of legion where ppl didnt actually mind the AP grind
by the end of legion where ppl didnt enjoy it anymore
100%
systems like that need to give catchup options every 2-4 weeks behind
was too late to change that stuff
well they probably could have changed SLs imo
but im not a game dev
so
🤷
that's the thing BfA's AP HAD catchup but it still required grinding.
Like I would love a grind that I can do at the start of expansions to signifigantly increase my characters power. Would fix the complaint about characters feeling weaker do to scaling, but 4months/a year and a half into the expansion I dont want to do that same grind on my 5 alts
only every .5 patch
All catchup systems should work like sparks, tbh.
true
well no i can make a toon now that'd be 11 weeks behind and by end of day have all my sparks, that's what i mean
youre 1 spark behind if you dont quest i thought
1 spark behind, but thats like 10 minutes of doing the weekly niflin quest
imma say it in the .5 patch things should become account wide
"if you don't quest"... .5 a spark, yes.
100% especially with current patch cadence
this would also incentivize carrying +17s/16s to send the crests to alts
crests are a big offender and need to become account wide
NA servers just came back up if anyone here cares
inb4 yogi says "but they said it'd be 4 hours".
4hrs dn
typical blizzard, lying to the player base
frick blizzard
Can they just keep the servers down until I get home
if we all ddos the servers we might be able to make it happen
Ok
Does Dark Iron D work against sarka's debuff? Or only normal dwarf?
both dwarfs dispell the same stuff
Thank you
i think portals needs to be account wide
if you got it, you got it
it is kinda dumb that it is character specific yes
should be like, if you beat the mythic raid, you get fast travel teleport to the raid
as well
The mount is already account wide, why not the portals too indeed, I worked for that quality of like, let me enjoy it 🙂
open as arms again?
So, prot pally is currently doing more dmg in raids, but they are getting an 8% dmg bump while we are seeing 7%. Am I missing something obvious? This isn't a prot pally attack, happy for the buff, I just don't get the 1% difference.
It was to give you something to talk about
HUGE
Where's harrow
more leech than mastery
i got 2 vaults for the price of one

i need flight stones for 447
no
gloves
and u can catalyze gloves and hands
missing 2 pieces of gear 
gloves and hands
Lame
sheesh
shouldvers and hands
Nice 450 ashkandur lol
o wait im missing 3 ilvl on shield too

holyyyy
That's hot
sark gear dropping tonight and im looting both for sure
anvil
socket
true
was there a meta on which movie to go to first?
I think it was here it was being discussed
See, I want to watch both aswell
But I can't cuz shit isn't in english here
So it's just gonna be a worse experience
fly to usa to watch
Same as the Mario movie was just worse cuz it wasn't in english
It was alright, but not having jackblack bowser is a crime
smh
I hate RShams stealing my FR and my DS
meta is barbie first i think because oppenheimer is 5 hours long
but then again u could argue the other way around because of the length
if u watch oppenheimer first u can use your brain, then brain off for barbie
@lusty grotto Wellness check (he got bad vaults again)
which one are u gonna get blitzed at though
i would be asleep
how can you sit in a dark room for 9hrs without falling asleep
Yea
cmon now...
I’ve done 10 days of straight 10 hours
well i got up to pee and drink and grab a snack at least once- maybe wash my face
imagine getting up to pee
i mean
piss...holder?
ok whos doing keys on na
lolllllllllll
im 391 bear i can do 20s right
ye
MEOW
this guy uses the litterbox
Or do I spread it out over multiple days to fully grasp my birthday week?
happy birthday year
i love it
Mission barbiehemier when?
Actually Kanga you reinvigorated me to see all three I was gonna spread it out we're doing it live!
Ohhhh fuk
Bro that’s hot
Nah troll warrior actually cool imo
C tier warrior race easily
But dwarf
especially if you could be Orc or Tauren
Racial
Troll is hard trolling.
doesnt even have shoes on
I was troll up until I could be dwarf and still game with the horde homies
Yeah shoes is the L part
Honestly

yea, the tmog not doing any favors
nah
the tmog is sick dude
there are proper glasses transmogs that look nice
goggles dont fix that travesty
What race has the biggest weapon to character size ratio?
Would it be female human?
Human bis for all classes
I don’t think so
Depends on the sword though
Some of them are very reasonably sized
Let’s say nax* weapon
troll warrior is sick
nah they killed female human ages ago
how get hat
Yo bis mog
not red panda tail
L
choco really just making all the wrong appearance choices
left and right
It was a token item from the box like February I think?
kms
youll be able to get it again
storm eat dn
Don’t worry it’ll come back around
@brazen yarrow
how poggers is OCE?
might not be until next Feb
400/10
thats looks like a rogue
i wanna do keys but bolsteringggg
nish why are ur characters so shit geared
Alts
Ok link brm
My monk is like 446
Prove
Wow armory?
what the fuck are u wearing
also wait I just remembered
Why tf did ur guild have u go on bdk for zskarn bombs
and not brm
hard to complain
what
will it ever come back
or is hope lost
man this trader shit gives me mad fomo
wtf am i supposed to do today
did ur vualt get fucked
deleete all chars
and restorer them 1 week at a time
It’s fine I got a Zskarn kill anyway
But now I’m forever at 8/9 bc I quit
Blizz said it will be a rotation some things will come back others might not
just get ce
classic player
wtf
I was trialing for a guild
oh right its because he left to go join a classic guild doing normal mode toc
Realized I was so burnt out I just didn’t give a single fuck
smh...

I don’t like casters period
Mage is literally the meta spec u clown baboon
So
They got rid of that sunkings shit
It’s way better now imo
I mean you still have sunkings
It’s just different
i know bene guilds
It’s just a dad guild but
I get ez loot prio for being friends with the RL and a chad retail player
nerd
Ez clap
linking retail parses for classic is better than linking classic parses
Ya they literally think I’m a turbo chad
Meanwhile I’m just smashing whatever comes off CD as Ret
classic parses are such a meme tbh
most classic players cannot fathom retail
This dude prob doesn’t even know what spec I play in retail just saw a bunch of 100s

like actually classic parses are the definition of bullshit tbh
it would literally be the same here just play the correct class smh
though
my RL is ~r3 US spriest so he may not be as impressed
rank 3 us
and like r6 prev
holy
My raid lead is in DMG/formerly SPK in retail 🤷♂️
the prev is world rank because everyone rerolled hpal 
idk man he looked at ur tank parses
A movie about barbie has no business being that good
that's not a good sign
No no
Ur confusing the GM and raid lead
The raid lead is my friend
im ur friend
Who is well aware my tank parses don’t mean shit
it's dummy ez

Fr
its push week
whos pushing keys
they literally raided for like 8 hours straight on a 5 boss instance
Whatcha pushin bud
Where tf did they raid for 8hrs
week 1 of toc release
Tell it to the weirdos thinking it'll be hard cuz bolster.
i literally have the log pulled up right now
even tho bolster is free now
i'm hard because it's bolster (i will not be pushing this week)
i cant wait to omega bolster the big boys in freehold and get meleed from behind for fun

Kanga is soft confirmed
Have I been gaslit
i mean
it's complicated and i dont really wanna discuss it here because its cringe
but actually being good classic guild is completely different metrics and u have to look at random other shit lol
i mean agreedge but perhaps then dont join the guild that extended for 6h plus added a nonschedule raid day
to clear normal and then forced them to do alg
WTF
Surely it’s optional 
you definitely are conned rn
Didn't he say the rl is his friend?
but you won't realize until ICC
Oh well
if i look at ulduar logs it'll be even worse i'm sure
Worst case scenario I don’t raid
just raid with me stupid
finally a tank affix(Still a healer affix)
i log on for 2 hours a week with the boys and bullshit and it owns
If it goes poorly sure
But for now they’re helping gear me up at least
Baldurs gate 3 is next week anyway

too bad I'm going to be out of town starting the 2nd through the 9th
so I won't be playing until a week after release

What’s for lunch
chicken and rice
taco bowl
it will but only 3 months from now
which tbf i guess u dont really care about
but u'll miss out on 3 months of the boys
😔
🤷♂️
Chinese food
5 days a week
Older player. Been gone since Legion. Honestly didn’t, and still don’t, like the “speed run” feel the game went to with mythic+. Because my gf is playing now, I decided to try retail one last time, as the changes to Wrath made it completely unplayable for me. Hard to reminisce an old xpac when you change almost everything about it. SMH I don’t ...
based
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/tanks-healing-more-than-healers-is-bad-game-design/1638350/2
Throw heals at the tank anyway and waste globals/mana if you want to see hps go brrrrr. Tanks being self sufficent to an extent is fine as it allows you to focus on the other 4 people. A tank is NEVER going to outhps you on a fight like Bromach, Asaad, Emberon, Monstrosity, or the 3rd boss of HoI because they all kind of do negligible tank dama...
If they gave more effective ways to tank heal that’d be cool
This idea that dungeons are loaded with “unavoidable aoe damage” is clearly false.
no shut up
jeree is on block now
Nothing will piss off tanks more than if you remove the power for them to keep themselves alive again.
Inb4 prot warrior existing

If I remember correctly; all tanks require the same amount of external healing
or at least, within a standard deviation of each other
Well 1 standard deviation is a lot
shut up
mostly due to tuning
anyways yeah external healing req isn't that different per tank
or damage type
it's only noticeable if the tank is extremely bad
or like pwar eats a bleed
(lul)
I do think tanks should be able to keep themself alive
the greatest weakness to warriors... unblockable phys damage
Bleeds are the "tank needs healing from healer" check.
Like that's the design of dots/bleeds on tanks
I no longer know what healers want anymore
Obviously some tanks have ways of dealing with it themselves
do they want to heal a lot, do they not want to heal a lot, do damage, no damage
Healers don't know what healers want.
or just press flash heal and jump whenever they dont actually need to heal anything
jerees should be seen and not heard
LMFAO
actually they shouldn't even be seen
purge all jerees
Mila Kunis told me to buy a battle pet and honestly, I'd do it every time

Yes let me fund a war with my in game donations
Holy shit
You think that’s funding the war??
Ok I’m going to just skip this convo actually.
Inb4 valkyr
Ah ok I’m done
Just saying I don’t think donations to refugees and stuff through these kind of charities are very honest
Anyways, shut the heck up before I have to go get banned because you're ignorant
: D
sorry no swearing
People really out here getting big mad on both sides
i'm more like big hungy because i didn't have lunch!
truuuue
Big sandwich on the way
Mmmm
Alright if you've never been in a country that's had a war happening in it, don't weigh in on the topic, sound good?
anyways tldr buy the thing to support the thing if you want or don't, all up to you
Fried rice n chicken inc
the discord prolly isn't a great place to weigh in on your feelings about it either way
i'm getting big thing of noodles with my friend later
so i will suffer through hungy
i had some chocolate
Im making pasta and meat sauce tonight before raid
bro now I want jimmy johns
Ok a simple clarification can’t hurt right?
The buying a pet would support the folks over there who are suffering losses of any form due to the Russian invasion. HELLO?
Please use brain.
I don’t like blizzard’s use of that issue as a way to advertise buying something
I would assume it’s non profit on blizzards end no?
It's not the first time they've sold pets to help donate
Former President Donald Trump speaks with CNN’s Kaitlan Collins about the war in Ukraine and how he would handle the conflict as president.
Donald Trump urged Republicans to force America into an unprecedented default if President Biden did not make huge spending cuts, during a wide-ranging town hall when he doubled down on hardline positions ...
^
the discord prolly isn't a great place to weigh in on your feelings about it either way
i want everybody to stop DYING
first however many days is 100% revenue to said non profit iirc
No yogi don’t do that

Public forum
im not for war is my stance
ok cya guys later
Again
buy the thing if you want to support the thing
don't if you don't
move on
ez clap
Agreed simple and straight forward. @chilly brook
Sorry if someone brings up an idiotic take like "this is funding the war", they deserve to be called out.
I bought Daisy back in covid days or w/e just cuz I wanted sloth that I could have on my back
Because that's that dumb shit.

i think what blizzard is doing is moral
i dunno if im gunna get it or not but i wont make a statement if i do or not
From July 25 to August 29, 2023 Blizzard Entertainment® will donate 100% of the purchase price of each “Pet Pack for Ukraine,” to BlueCheck, less any chargebacks, refunds, and Value Added Taxes (VAT), or other similar taxes paid.
Yeah exactly
TLDR, they're not making money on it within that window
my favorite sandwich to make is chicken cutlet, bacon, bbq sauce on a wedge; can add cheese if you want
it's cheap marketing
its a fire sandwich
cheap af
I mean it's a charity drive, it's not new.
make it panko chicky breast and it starts sounding awsome
is bolstering bad? group i was with said it was one of the tougher affixes, felt non existent lol
That's a real sandwich
not anymore, they kneecapped it in DF
depends on dungeon
idk man i just get turkey, bacon, and black olives
i'd prefer 1 or 2 types of meat in a sandwich
that many meats the flavours start to mingle too much and it becomes a mess
is one of them... nvm pg server
how so?
and it would never drop
if you playrd the pack bad
Now you just gotta kill the guy before he bellows.
or you could bolster bosses
iykyk
Tanks going to love me this week
now since HP doesn't go nutty you can kinda just indiscriminently kill things
I’m still playing prio damage build
I love you every week breww
Freehold Bolstering is a bit whack
Fukem that’s why
prio dn
dem bellows slam
bolster dn
as long as you can kill other things without dying

GUYS I AM NOW HAVOC MAIN
wow
honestly, best bolstering dungeon is prob VP
No shot

grats; dps warrior sucks lol
insanely true and based
momentum is banned
bro on rashok i was like "man it looks like havoc is having so fun fr he's zip zop zwooping everywhere"
momentum is the most fun the game can offer
2-hander vault yay

reminds me of reprisal + banner 
momentum is fun part of most games
socket time lets go
Momentum on Terros and VP first boss 
Hard agree
WW owns
there it is
y'know what else is fun?
i play warrior cuz shield and plate armor
being a dragon
Logging off*
you know
shut up scalie
no, paladin is different
damnit brew beat me
the first time i played momentum on rashok i got hit by 0 puddles
fuck you, you know you like my buffs

usually i run into 2 or 3
paladins cant use fist weapons and daggers and pole arms and crosbows
its a buff confirmed
shut up scalie
so paladins suck
And staves
you're lucky blizz fell into sunk cost
yeah, should a holy paladin be able to use an intellect staff
they are casters and they use 2 hand weapon for ret
even if they deleted Aug, Dev is hella fun
2 handed intellect weapons don't also have strength yogi
they can't be reused regardless
sure, but why cant a paladin use a staff
They can use 2h swords pole arms maces and axes
but also holy paladin literally needs shield currently because of how the spec works
yogi do not try to bring sense into this, warrior cannot wield staves despite them being long handles of wood
bcs staves are for manlets
chads use hammers
Yes we can
you can in classic
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