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strong forum
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meaning, you can just take more dmg

proper roost
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i think maining fury just made me a worse player, i spam buttons way too much and don't get punished except when i don't play fury sadga

waxen frigate
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Blood shield wild

proper roost
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keep spellqueuing the wrong thing when I play blood

waxen frigate
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The most I’ve done as BDK this xpac is Zskarn and brood

strong forum
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people seriously undervalue that play

waxen frigate
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BDK made brood such a fucking joke man

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“Oh no a heal absorb! Good thing I have a million blood shield that doesn’t give a fuck”

strong forum
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of intentionally taking undangerous magic dmg to take more dmg that gets fed into bloodshield which then immunes physical dmg

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seen reholy literally tank the sharks on FH 3rd boss

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so his group doesnt have to play around it

waxen frigate
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Chad

south zealot
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letting blood bolts snd stuff through to take less damage overall

strong forum
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and he just immunes the phys dmg

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so wild

south zealot
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i wish i was better at blood dk

crude notch
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Does anyone know how much of a gain nelth weppy is for bdk in like a key?

waxen frigate
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Blood DK is really really easy to be decent at

sick sentinel
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bdk also has MC undead

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which is powerful

sick sentinel
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depends what monster if any you can control but when its good its reallyt good

crude notch
inland garnet
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So bdk is the play next season(s)?

crude notch
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🔮

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We shall see.

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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lol

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have you tried asking in acherus instead of prot warrior discord?

crude notch
waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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and instead of taking a reply from the token brew

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a meme reply 😉

crude notch
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Sheesh

strong forum
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BDK will get OP tierset

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🧢

crude notch
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Guaranteed

inland garnet
waxen frigate
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Unlike the warrior 4 set which only gives you stacking haste on shield slam

crude notch
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Nah, it'll be the magic S word that makes BDK meta

south zealot
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shadow priest

round pendant
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"Prot Warri is the worst tank tho and when playing it you feel it."

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Redditors are weird

south zealot
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sinfinite dancing rune weapon

crude notch
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The word that poor mandl had to write an article about

waxen frigate
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Sinfinite scaling strength

daring marlin
lusty tiger
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based

round pendant
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pwar to me feels about the same as it did in season 1 where it was apparently very good

daring marlin
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I am bdk enjoyorrrr

south zealot
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redditors are fucking morons

proper roost
waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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yam cmon, reddit comments are always super misinformed

south zealot
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even on “competetive”wow

strong forum
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but to answer the question more truthfully
the requirements to become "best" tank are:

  • big dmg output
  • good fit for the dungeons dmg profiles
  • good fit for the group composition (buffs/utility/cc)
waxen frigate
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Competitivewow is worse than normal WoW

proper roost
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no that subreddit owns

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it's hilarious

south zealot
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good reads for sure

waxen frigate
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But also I barely use reddi anymore

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Since they killed mobile

south zealot
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but people are dumb

round pendant
waxen frigate
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I’m a Twitter Andy now

crude notch
proper roost
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i especially love how people always comment on mythic fights when it's clear they've only done heroic or sometimes not even that

waxen frigate
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Which is objectively worse but wcyd

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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“Acherus is so easy” - 8/9H raider

proper roost
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or sometimes people will just show their whole ass and be like "i have only healed this on a +18 but it's a joke of a fight idk how you're having issues"

strong forum
inland garnet
south zealot
proper roost
waxen frigate
crude notch
waxen frigate
modern brook
inland garnet
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S3 would be so worth playing if they add KR or AD back

crude notch
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And reality is the "hints" about SoB can literally just be making it doable with horde and alliance

waxen frigate
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We’re also ofc getting the 4th Evoker spec (infinity, the tank spec)

strong forum
lusty grotto
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idk if you guys remember but they DID rework a bunch of dungeons on a previous ptr, including MoS

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this was before s2

inland garnet
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If Evokers gets a tank spec

waxen frigate
strong forum
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they wont

inland garnet
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Prot warriors are benched for the next 2 years

south zealot
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my first “real” tier i got like 7/11m

lusty grotto
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and the beer factory i cant fucking remember the name

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from MoP

south zealot
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but i had some like small stints playong here and there

south zealot
strong forum
modern brook
crude notch
proper roost
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this one comment says "spriest is mandatory" (because of the Morchie mind control) and someone responds "have you seen how many magic debuffs there are in the dungeon, yeah it is"

literally the only magic debuffs that go on more than 1 person at a time are on timeways (if you dispelled both of these simultaneously on a high key you'd wipe), tyr (probably good actually), and... no that's it

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Hmph

modern brook
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more so than the actual difficulty of the content, especially around now where you're very comfortably not dealing with a numbers issue

strong forum
waxen frigate
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Hot take from a shadowlands baby: large raids are essential to wow’s identity and should always be the pinnacle of pve content

proper roost
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anyhow time to go watch ellesmere's 2 hour long 10.1.5 holy paladin video

modern brook
waxen frigate
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If mythic is reduced to 10man it’s a huge L imo

modern brook
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no matter when or where

strong forum
lusty tiger
strong forum
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10 man is shit to balance dps wise

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
waxen frigate
round pendant
strong forum
proper roost
lusty grotto
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class balance in EQ was non-existent, shit i even made the secret dev forums as a druid

proper roost
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ok grandpa

lusty tiger
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seriously

waxen frigate
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But to me having been on the outside and only starting WoW in Nathria, I always saw WoW as big raids and intense progression

strong forum
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nimpa

modern brook
lusty tiger
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wartime is over

daring marlin
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I can't keep up with chat

waxen frigate
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If they do 16 or 10 man like

proper roost
waxen frigate
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I feel like that’s a big identity loss

daring marlin
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y'all wild

modern brook
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Like i just had to cancel a bunch of my trials cause my schedules getting shifted and i can no longer commit to the raid times

waxen frigate
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For WoW

modern brook
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and its like "if i could just progress whenever i needed"

waxen frigate
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I think an option is ok

round pendant
daring marlin
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@proper roost Why do you think I'm bad

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rude af bro

strong forum
lusty tiger
strong forum
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and cata aswell

lusty grotto
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like i understand class balancing around 10m is gonna be rough, but it wouldn't if class balance itself was done better to begin with, they have made strides in quick fixes though so its possible

waxen frigate
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I actually really love small raid groups

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I came from 8m raiding in swtor

proper roost
round pendant
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small groups is best

waxen frigate
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But there’s something iconic and epic about larger raids

daring marlin
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That's the beauty of bdk

proper roost
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also remember when nim was like "???" when you did a slightly weird route

lusty tiger
proper roost
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when have i

daring marlin
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calculated 10%->100%

proper roost
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EVER

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questioned your route

daring marlin
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lmaooooooo

lusty grotto
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coughyourroutesareshitcough

strong forum
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i never understood the beauty of "massive amounts of people do raid"

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its always just a cluster fuck

proper roost
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i'm a guilford route enjoyer

strong forum
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and the bigger the raid, the easier the mechanics have to be

daring marlin
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Nim got annoyed at one neltharus one

south zealot
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i like 20 man, but ive also only ever done 20 man

daring marlin
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eat shit nim

inland garnet
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10m Wraths had subpar loot

south zealot
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so i have no point of reference

strong forum
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if you have smaller raid sizes, you can make the raid more mechanically demanding

inland garnet
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It was a bit disappointing

lusty grotto
round pendant
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Do I still not have a heroic sark kill because pug groups are always 20man? is that why the baits are always on top of the group

south zealot
strong forum
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the larger the raid, the easier it has to be because of coordinational difficulties

inland garnet
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Also boring to do a big raid and a small raid every week

lusty grotto
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yeah nobody wants that

waxen frigate
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I just think having a 20+ person group is way cooler conceptually

lusty grotto
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its just reducing the current one

daring marlin
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I just press W

strong forum
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thats a personal thing

waxen frigate
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And it’s one of the main things that drew me to wow

strong forum
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i really really dislike large groupings

waxen frigate
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I definitely don’t want 40m or anything back

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I think 20 is good

modern brook
inland garnet
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40m were a clown show, me included

modern brook
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its werid to me that a 10 man raid is 2/2/6 but a 20 man raid is liek 2/4/16

lusty grotto
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20m was a good evolution, but we need less

strong forum
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i see nothing epic about it, cuz its not realistically doable in games to give you an experience where you as an individuum matter the larger the raid size becomes

waxen frigate
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Part of something bigger

strong forum
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conceptually from an RP perspective

waxen frigate
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To me at least

strong forum
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sure it looks cool

south zealot
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theres like 5 guys in the raid that do mechanics bc theyre good

strong forum
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but it doesnt fit as a game mechanic

daring marlin
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10man was best

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don't @ me

south zealot
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i dont do mechanics bc im baddeadge

waxen frigate
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I would probably enjoy 10m more than 20m but it would make me sad still

crude notch
waxen frigate
crude notch
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Ah lol

inland garnet
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In 10m even hunters will be forced do mechanics

waxen frigate
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Dead game couldn’t get 16 ppl together

inland garnet
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Imagine

waxen frigate
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8m was the predominant mode

strong forum
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technically

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hunters are the more reliable and better targets to do mechanics

waxen frigate
strong forum
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cuz they dont lose as much dps doing so

daring marlin
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TRUUUUEEEEE

crude notch
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100%

daring marlin
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fuck them hunters

crude notch
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I love doing mechanics on my hunter

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Just let me live them

daring marlin
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Warlocks too if they ever bring back KJC_please do this and make mages mad_

inland garnet
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I know they are technically good at it, but some of them are a bit chill 🙂

strong forum
daring marlin
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KJC was the best shit ever

daring marlin
lusty grotto
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people are barbara streissanding it

crude notch
waxen frigate
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@crude notch did I ever show you my raid prog vid from swtor that I still have

lusty grotto
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cause nagura and co said "IF I READ ANOTHER EVOKER QUESTION IM GONNA X"

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so naturally

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the dad meme is in full force

jagged pier
strong forum
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obv a joke

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from both

south zealot
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twitch chat is actually in on a joke this time

crude notch
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Ya

lusty grotto
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the good ole days was heals scoundreling in huttball

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and/or operative

crude notch
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nim is there a game you haven't played?

lusty tiger
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no dps meters shit game

lusty grotto
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lol 😢

strong forum
lusty grotto
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i played at the start

crude notch
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Did you play Wildstar?

lusty grotto
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i couldnt but my crew did

inland garnet
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Where do you read all the updates for S3? I have a lot of time nowadays since I don't get invites in 21+ either on the prot or fury 🙂

daring marlin
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@proper roost push tonight?????

lusty grotto
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"where are the prot warriors?"

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did you guys hear that

round pendant
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Fuck guys

round pendant
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I just stepped on a snail

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I feel so bad

crude notch
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yyet

lusty tiger
round pendant
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I didn't mean to!!!

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I was trying to pick up my cat and I heard CRUNCH

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and I was like ohno

proper roost
crude notch
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going for rank 1?

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guilforddk r1?

proper roost
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yeah we're gonna be the only bdk/hpal title combo

crude notch
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||as long as you ignore the others||

proper roost
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the only one

sick sentinel
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critcake mentiuon on srema

lusty grotto
crude notch
vocal nimbus
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does anyone know

crude notch
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Probably

vocal nimbus
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why my inspect window closes sometimes after a few sec on its own?

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when inspecting others

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even close characters

crude notch
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Normally it's a range thing, i've always wondered the same when they're close, I've always just assumed they changed something so i resets the screen, idk

proper roost
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this 2 hour long ellesmere video is really good actually

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learning big rn

crude notch
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yeah

sick sentinel
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did wow take a shit

jagged gust
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RIP the greg push

sick sentinel
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feels bad

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from twitch chat

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he keeps spamming it lol

jagged gust
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these auggys pushing 40-50k dps single target

dusky canopy
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Nim Nish lmfao why is that so accurate wtf

lusty grotto
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how dare you

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i am not a token brew

dusky canopy
dusky canopy
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
sick sentinel
dusky canopy
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Holy shit I decided to do some actual work at work for like 90 minutes right and all of a sudden valkyr are in here and nomes telling us to behave again

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What in the hell today is all fired up lol

sick sentinel
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dont over cap on rage

dusky canopy
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Jokes not on me I “secretly used cheat engine” to disable my rage cap

waxen frigate
waxen frigate
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HUTTBALL BIS

crude notch
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Brew

waxen frigate
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swtor war zones >>>> wow bgs

crude notch
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you beautiful human

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how are you?

dusky canopy
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Steady chillin as always 😎

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Friday is always date night with the wifey so rip gaming

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But we’re getting wings witch I’m obsessed with

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So it’s a fair trade

crude notch
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Niceu

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love wings

lusty tiger
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u gotta eat two wings you know why?

dusky canopy
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I’m trying to visits buffalo New York

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Just for the wings

waxen frigate
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Based

dusky canopy
waxen frigate
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Had wings at the potluck

crude notch
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Catch a Bills game

lusty tiger
dusky canopy
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Lmfao

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There it is

crude notch
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not with that attitude you can't

dusky canopy
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What if you have one REALLY BIG wing

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If you flap it enough you could probably stay afloat

lusty tiger
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no

waxen frigate
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A flying wing is a tailless fixed-wing aircraft that has no definite fuselage, with its crew, payload, fuel, and equipment housed inside the main wing structure. A flying wing may have various small protuberances such as pods, nacelles, blisters, booms, or vertical stabilizers.
Similar aircraft designs, that are not technically flying wings, are...

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You just blow in from stupid town?

lusty tiger
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dude

dusky canopy
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Lmfao

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Roasted

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
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if you knock my dad's dad joke ONE MORE TIME

crude notch
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such a toxic discord smh

echo egret
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Dagrul Tyrannical +21, should I save and rotate LS/DS for the combo when reflect is on cooldown ?

waxen frigate
sick sentinel
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DUH

lusty grotto
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you dont really need wall for anything else there

echo egret
lusty grotto
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just use wall and d stance, thats it

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you only have 1 missable crash

jagged gust
lusty grotto
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you can reflect every crash basically

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
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the 2nd crash is the one most of us miss only because of spell queue timings

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
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he can indeed fly

echo egret
jagged gust
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Reflecting every crash requies you to sort of precast is doesn't it? The timer is super tight

lusty tiger
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this song kinda fucks tho

lusty grotto
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every one after that is easy reflectable

dusky canopy
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It lasts long enough where if you pre cast it you can reflect all of them

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Unless boss is like 7 minutes

crude notch
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Press reflect right after landslide finishes

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You'll hit it every time.

dusky canopy
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In witch case you’re doing a 29 and you wouldn’t be asking us

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Lol

lusty grotto
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but hes not talking about the first ones

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
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hes talking about apparently every other crash

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which SHOULDNT happen

sick sentinel
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sepiroth lore goes BALLS deep man

echo egret
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Actually stupid landslide has killed me too

south zealot
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why

lusty grotto
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just block

sick sentinel
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you can reflect all of them

south zealot
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that shouldnt kill you

sick sentinel
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but you have to precast reflect

dusky canopy
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Yeah star if you keep your block up you should be good my man

lusty grotto
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yeah its possible youre dying to other things or bad play

dusky canopy
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For the landslide

echo egret
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Landslide is magic, I can't block it

sick sentinel
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if you DONT have reflect, Sw, or IP

echo egret
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Bad play is totally a possibility, but hard to pinpoint sometimes in the heat of the fight

lusty grotto
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a log would help

sick sentinel
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doesn't matter, he does crash after he does landslide

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and it has to be precast like i said to get the next with reflect also

lusty grotto
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idk landslide shouldn't kill you at all, maybe in 25+

dusky canopy
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Huh I guess I never have had to look into landslide because the molten crash is what’s killed me when I mess up my reflect and healer doesn’t have me topped

sick sentinel
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the only way landslide kills you is if you point it at your group

lusty grotto
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its spell blockable

echo egret
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yes but I don't take spell block in that dungeon

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*didn't

lusty grotto
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i dont either

dusky canopy
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Yeah at 21 I don’t think you really need it

lusty grotto
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ive done 23s there with no issues

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tyrannical week

echo egret
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There has to be some bad play somewhere, but sadly I don't have logs

lusty grotto
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actually my 1st 23 to be fair

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and this was pre-augvoker

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yeah idk kinda hard to say then

south zealot
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idk ive just never had to worry a out landslide

lusty grotto
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me neither

dusky canopy
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@wicked rune you tripped me out bro my old bnet used to be boost when I was selling leveling dungeons back in legion lmao

south zealot
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if you need to, can throw it in dstance

dusky canopy
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I’m like no way this guy knows that

sick sentinel
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ya,

lusty grotto
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either way

sick sentinel
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if ur really in a pinch d stance

lusty grotto
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that's beside the point

echo egret
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I should only switch to def stance for molten crash, right ?

lusty grotto
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the point is you can reflect every crash

south zealot
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you can reflect molten crash

dusky canopy
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Well ^

lusty grotto
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so you only need wall for one of them if you miss the pre cast

echo egret
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*if my refect is not up

sick sentinel
south zealot
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might as well use dstance on both if youre gonna use it on one

lusty grotto
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your reflect will be up for all of them outside of the first 2 if you miss the pre-cast

daring marlin
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@proper roost maybe we make brew dps some 22s

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
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its tough to get ALL of them

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but you should reflect 80% or more of them

echo egret
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I guess I'll just go back there and see

dusky canopy
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Sorry not trying to give mixed answer I’ll let the homies fill you in

proper roost
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come dps some 22s @waxen frigate

lusty grotto
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im telling you

waxen frigate
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I’m at work

echo egret
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Once the servers are back up

lusty grotto
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we've done this key so many times

proper roost
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i literally can't even log in right now wtf

lusty grotto
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this isnt even a maybe

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its a fact

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it WILL be up for all of them

proper roost
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what's going on with wow servers madge

dusky canopy
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All 20 million accounts are logged on afk in town while watching tgp ofc

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DUH

lusty grotto
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and once again THE ONLY exception to that is the first two if you miss the precast

proper roost
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Doesn't the second molten crash come too soon

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or do you have to precast for the first one like 3s in advance

south zealot
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almost too soob

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soon

lusty grotto
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goddamn it i feel like ive said this last line like 3 times already

proper roost
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Sorry I just got home

echo egret
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haha

proper roost
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no bully

crude notch
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Yeah I just watched Sense's 28 Fort, he's got splock for other stuff though so it's ezpz.

dusky canopy
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WE WANT CLARITY NIM

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SMH

proper roost
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god i hate the term splock

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What does Sense have splock for in fort neltharus

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neltharion's*

south zealot
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can u spell block hulk boys

proper roost
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just checked, u can but

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the dot is 80% of the damage

south zealot
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can u spellblock the dot

proper roost
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so seems like kind of a strange pickup for just the initial hit?

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no

crude notch
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well it verywell might be just for dargrul then

south zealot
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i mean you can heal through the dot

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you cannot heal a oneshot

proper roost
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nim is better than sense comfirmed

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i mean honestly it's kinda based to take splock for literally 3 mobs in the whole instance

dusky canopy
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mother splocker

south zealot
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he also takes bsv and avatar shield wall thing for them too

crude notch
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idk if i like splock or spblock more. 🤔

dusky canopy
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SpB

south zealot
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the hulks are the only hard part damage doesnt matter

proper roost
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thats an absolute state of prot warrior moment right there

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tbh

dusky canopy
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I’ve been trying to instill that for months now

south zealot
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splock will carry you anyway

dusky canopy
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SpB makes the most sense

proper roost
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i bet bears literally dont take anything for it

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they just press FR

crude notch
uneven mason
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It's Splock

south zealot
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you might take pulverize on tyranny

uneven mason
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it was decided long ago to be Splock

dusky canopy
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Fucking delete demon hunter alread

proper roost
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is pulverize good now

dusky canopy
proper roost
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back when it was first introduced in legion it was beyond a meme

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like

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GIGA meme tier talent

south zealot
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it has uses but not very many

uneven mason
crude notch
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back in legion was when it was best because it was a buff.

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now it's only on the target

dusky canopy
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You know how sick pulverize would be if it was a buff again

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Golllyyy

proper roost
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idk if they buffed it during legion but it used to be really like

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giga dogshit tuning

dusky canopy
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Bears eatin good

crude notch
south zealot
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are servers fixed

chilly brook
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or just a VoD?

crude notch
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nah vod

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he's got all his vods on his rio page

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really easy to pull up for questions

chilly brook
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here I was hoping we'd have something other than a bear in TGP

crude notch
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good luck with that

south zealot
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sense played prot last tgp

crude notch
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ye

toxic pewter
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Just landed in Boston wat I miss

crude notch
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wait

south zealot
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for iron docks

#

think everything else was bdk

crude notch
#

he didn't play splock for his 25 Tyran, so Idk what he's playing it for

#

in a 28

#

fort

south zealot
#

hulk

crude notch
#

ye

south zealot
#

or maybe just forgot to change talent

crude notch
#

bear can't reflect. Bear reflect when?

south zealot
#

reflect dn

crude notch
#

Their fur is Iron afterall

#

(:

proper roost
#

sigh

south zealot
#

how r u in gsme

#

srent servers fucked

chilly brook
#

I should put in a ticket

#

"where evoker lego"

proper roost
#

yeah they still are fucked

#

i just retried a few times

jagged gust
#

I love how aside from like 1 boss the druid outheals the pally by like 60% in tgp

strong forum
daring marlin
#

I believe

#

They swapped jeb's sword

south zealot
proper roost
#

yeah

#

if you look at the log

#

i guarantee you its literally like 90%+ tank healing

#

it's not ATW healing the group

#

the higher the key goes the more the tank needs to selfheal is kinda normal

south zealot
#

though guardian does do a lot of aoe healing, mostly normal tank mitigation

proper roost
#

you would definitely see some different numbers on say Khajin, but you'd also see WAY more ATW healing

south zealot
proper roost
#

ATW just overheals a lot

#

Oh hey just logged in and got a ticket response

lusty grotto
#

"get fucked"

proper roost
#

yep

crude notch
#

90% of top tyran HoI was self-healing.

#

for bear

proper roost
#

ok time to appeal

#

sighdge

#

Sorry for making everyone's tickets longer!!

#

😡

crude notch
#

Now on Khajin ATW did 24k hps

daring marlin
#

rip mckinney

proper roost
#

pretty good

#

how much healing did the hpally do on khajin

#

man HoW mods are fucking useless

daring marlin
#

HoW is one of the worst discords

#

easily

proper roost
#

Like how do you write so much

#

of a nonanswer

#

Multiple times in a row

#

he didn't even answer right at the end

#

ellesmere says to use blessing of seasons off cd so that you can cycle to Summer

proper roost
#

which is the good one

#

HUH

#

how long was the fight

crude notch
#

3:38

proper roost
#

and sorry what key level hoi was this

crude notch
#

28 tyran

daring marlin
#

sick

jagged gust
#

augpriest obviously

crude notch
# proper roost

i know this is worth nothing, but i just do what his WA tells me to do lol

proper roost
#

ya i have the WA but it only seems to activate when dps have cds rolling

#

outside of that it just waits

#

also just checked, it's actually only 207 on khajin

#

"only"

#

maybe different log?

crude notch
#

and i said 28 tyran

proper roost
#

oh i'm a goofy lil goober

proper roost
#

HIS MANA

#

WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK

strong forum
#

what about it

lusty grotto
#

that talent that gives you mana back

proper roost
#

yeah

#

It's insane

strong forum
#

paladin rarely drops below 80% mana

proper roost
#

he's doing 234k hps while using 40% of his mana

lusty grotto
#

i forget the name im still working

proper roost
#

So fucking dumb man

lusty grotto
#

well they didnt use shit before the rework

#

they use a bit more now, but totally recoverable

strong forum
#

now they use even less

crude notch
#

you can see the daybreaks lol

south zealot
#

seeing hpallys go oom in m+ is sadge

strong forum
#

they dont even need to play rashoks now

#

most of the time

crude notch
strong forum
#

if your hpal is casting

#

hes doing it wrong

crude notch
#

yupppp

proper roost
#

in that log

#

arty fucking has 437 beacon lul

#

toxic

south zealot
#

i dont remember what they were doing

proper roost
#

no 441 sadga

#

and yeah zorthash in that tyr 28 log has OCE + beacon

#

actually so insane

#

this spec needs to be deleted tbh

#

melee healers were a mistake

#

reverse course

crude notch
#

instant cast healer is bis healer

#

does arty not like awakening?

strong forum
#

is bait

proper roost
#

no shot it's bait

strong forum
proper roost
#

zorthash got it

#

whomst to trust

strong forum
#

idk who zorthash is

#

so i trust arty

proper roost
#

idk he just did a higher key

#

higher key doer

strong forum
#

dps isnt whats limiting keys rn, and i guess the other talent is just more consistent for healing

proper roost
#

hm

daring marlin
#

hmge

south zealot
#

perplexed is fucking the competition up right now

#

holy

warm plinth
#

how do they even stream the TGP? Is it still head to head?

south zealot
#

6 teams all playing at once

warm plinth
#

ahh

south zealot
#

they cycle between 4 showing on screen

warm plinth
#

gotcha

proper roost
#

when home @daring marlin

south zealot
#

does anyone know why toys and shit that change your character model dont work in m+

#

like burgys blackwater hat or whatever its called

crude notch
#

Because cheese

dusky canopy
#

CHEESE

south zealot
#

lame

#

i just wanna be a pirtane gnome

#

or hot nelf

dusky canopy
#

Anything but pirate

crude notch
#

I like my chances that if the healing from sunwell isn't needed in a 30 then it's not needed in a 27. /Shrug

south zealot
#

oh actually mandatory is doing well too i didntnotive

crude notch
#

Yeah dumb dumb

south zealot
#

they were on break or some shit didnt see any information for like 10 minutes pusc

jagged gust
#

mandatory absolutely inted their final NL run

modern gazelle
#

Is the tournament going on?

round pendant
#

BOYS, what addon is this?

modern gazelle
#

Mythic raid tools

round pendant
#

ty king

sick sentinel
#

neck 447 now, all my crafts to 447 (used ones anyway)

daring marlin
#

LET'S GOOOOO YOGI

cursive prawn
chilly brook
#

Nah fam

#

It’s Exorsus Raid Tools

lusty grotto
#

Nah fam

cursive prawn
lusty grotto
#

its Echo Raid Tools

crude notch
#

Mine is actually a WA that you can click on

sick sentinel
#

i used to have one that said, its missing on 4 players

#

i don't think im ever finding that one again

round pendant
#

some weirdo hunters attacked me in Loamm and I got the entire fuckin town on my ass

#

killed em both tho and then dungeon finder popped

charred valley
#

so prot is op for m+ right?

sick sentinel
#

teleports away "....you may have beaten me this time but i will return!"

charred valley
#

that says so

round pendant
#

"op"? not really

#

everything is good

sick sentinel
#

op is bear

#

ret was mad that i traded weapon to holy

#

i guess i really should have given it to ret

#

i figured that weapon drops all the time anyway

round pendant
#

why would he want that weapon

#

it's haste/vers

#

Unless there isn't a decent 2h for ret in the m+ loot pool

sick sentinel
#

this was their gear

warm plinth
sick sentinel
#

i just didnt check the gear

warm plinth
#

who cares what stats is on it if it's higher than yours

crude notch
#

isn't haste/vers like bis for them anyways?

round pendant
#

oh I misremembered ret's stat prio anyway

#

ye

sick sentinel
#

it was ilvl and track upgrade for them

#

is why they wanted it

#

hes got a haste mastery one, i dunno how good mastery is for ret

round pendant
#

I yoinked a heroic ashkandur from someone who mains dps spec

lusty grotto
#

doesnt matter

round pendant
#

when I tanked it

#

heheheh

lusty grotto
#

ilvl > all on weapons

#

stats dont matter until you get an equal ilvl

#

sorry ghash i know you said it 1st

warm plinth
#

Yeah people who care about ilevel upgrade weapons having x stats are weird

sick sentinel
#

well, the holy accepted trade right away

#

vendor spec or not

crude notch
#

toxic yogi

#

ruining a ret pallies day

#

smh

#

giving it to a meta cuck

warm plinth
crude notch
#

ghas you beautiful human, how are u?

sick sentinel
#

holy asked "do u need that" didnt specfy which thing

warm plinth
#

I am doing pretty well today. Finally cancelled my gym membership that I haven't used in 5 years keks

#

Gonna get one at the gym in town

sick sentinel
#

sometimes people leave really quickly after a dungeon is done

#

before they start hearthing

crude notch
#

I don't understand blizzard man

sick sentinel
#

blizzard are cold snow storms

#

they happen during the winter

crude notch
#

They're saying the reason D4 1.1 feels bad is because they only released half of the patch they meant to release.

#

admitting to releasing a half-baked patch on seasonal launch is so bizarre

sick sentinel
#

is asmongold still reeeeeee'ing about d4 bs?

crude notch
#

idk he's your buddy

sick sentinel
#

i stopped caring at this point

crude notch
#

I've never watched Asmon in my life

#

GGG has absolutely no pressure to make a banger with PoE 2, now.

round pendant
#

Never had any

#

D4 was only ever gonna last 3 months max

sick sentinel
#

i prefer d2 game play up to about lvl 70 or so

crude notch
#

They had pressure. Seasonal content being strong makes the world of difference, but D4 just fumbling the bag.

sick sentinel
#

after lvl 70 d2 sucks ass

#

repair bills are too big then, you need too many reistances, everything hits for wtf dmg

crude notch
#

@proper roost How does this hit?????????

sick sentinel
# crude notch <@116366605818134530> How does this hit?????????
#

thresh top keks

#

AD thresh first patch of him

#

that's what dks think they are doing with death grip btw, or is like the fantasy

crude notch
#

Pretty sure Thresh was the first 6300 champ i got and that's probably because of dk

sick sentinel
#

i stopped playing that game years ago

daring marlin
#

morde the og wannabe dk

proper roost
#

hokay

#

i

#

passed out watching the ellesmere video

#

way too boring

#

keyge guilford?!

waxen vale
#

anyone know if when ppl are AFK sitting down and I thunderclap right on them they can hear that?

proper roost
#

donowalled critcake

waxen vale
#

i am dark iron BTW

#

serious question tho

#

is the voiceover yell just for us

#

or do al our groups get to hear that nonstop

crude notch
#

WTF

proper roost
#

no

#

holy

#

paladin

crude notch
#

Bear deadge

proper roost
#

nerfs

#

🦀

crude notch
#

Brew nerfed

waxen vale
#

bro are u fuking kidding me

#

more BDK buffs

crude notch
#

Shadow... something'd

waxen vale
#

oh yea lets just casually give blood another 10%

#

wtf

crude notch
#

PWar buffed

#

Poggers me doggers

proper roost
#

Fate Mirror’s chance to occur reduced to 15% (was 20%).
i thought this was already the case lol

crude notch
#

PWAR IS META

waxen vale
#

thats barely a druid nerf btw

violet flume
proper roost
#

yup

#

bdk needed it

#

🦀

lusty grotto
#

why the fuck do we always get the lesser dmg buff

violet flume
#

7% damage buff puts us at 82k

#

comfortably way below dh monk and guardian kek

#

shouldve buffed us to 92k like guardian imo

lusty grotto
#

prot pally OH YEA 8% just 1 more to piss off nimchip

crude notch
#

Cannot believe they didn't nerf bear damage. keks

violet flume
#

oh lmao protpal 8% and us 7% when theyre slightly ahead

#

i guess difference is minimal tho

proper roost
#

oh prot pally got buffed

#

lol

lusty grotto
#

"hey lets just give the class with LESS utility LESS damage"

proper roost
#

🤪 back to ppal meta let's go

#

YES

#

RSHAM

#

META AGAIN

#

LET'S GO

daring marlin
#

Bro LOL

proper roost
#

are u uh

#

doing

daring marlin
#

HOW MANY IS THIS

proper roost
#

21 nelth xan

crude notch
#

BM ST buffed @warm plinth

plush tendon
violet flume
#

i just noticed

plush tendon
#

find out on my podcast

violet flume
#

they nerfed brewmaster damage

plush tendon
violet flume
#

buf not dh or guardian

#

iw onder why

daring marlin
#

turtleman is the goat

violet flume
#

they all perform equally

crude notch
daring marlin
#

jesus christ prot pal and prot war lol

crude notch
#

Close as Clutchmates got slammed

#

They nerfed the wrong abilities for Brew.

proper roost
#

ok well i'm gonna be on all night guilford!~!!

#

!!!!

daring marlin
south zealot
#

hey guys how good are the buffs

proper roost
#

damn dude wtf its 9 pm

#

ok well i'm running this 21 nelth first i think

daring marlin
#

I had to pick stuff up

#

I WANT IN

proper roost
#

u wanna come dps it

#

i have

#

a 444 bear tank

daring marlin
#

oh have him tank then

#

I'll go next

#

bear op

proper roost
#

warmup key

south zealot
#

prot highest dam tank

#

sheesh

daring marlin
#

choco gonna be slappin

#

more than usual

#

what a lad

#

They keep making pisstorm worse

proper roost
plush tendon
maiden ravine
#

grats on the buffs! I'm enjoying my protwarrior

plush tendon
#

soon bois

#

also, no one talking bout the hunter ❤️

sick sentinel
lusty tiger
#

are there m+ crates that you can send alts yet?

crude notch
#

Massive 2% buff in ST for Beast Mastery

sick sentinel
#

i think so

lusty tiger
sick sentinel
#

fuck, i cant recall

crude notch
#

spinoa in loamm 250 flightstones gets you a 398 random piece

sick sentinel
#

yeah

#

what he say

lusty tiger
#

tyty

sick sentinel
#

time to se what BS i get on my dk

crude notch
#

@chilly brook most of the community has no idea wtf these words mean for Auggie, what is the numerical impact, do you know?

crude notch
#

what does this mean?

#

dad halp!

chilly brook
#

oh

#

20% prolly too heavy handed

toxic pewter
#

Osnap just was able to read 7% buff nice

#

Wat else I miss

plush tendon
#

BDK is now op

#

and bear is trash

crude notch
plush tendon
#

obviously

chilly brook
#

will let you know actual impact soonish

#

in raid

crude notch
#

thanks bb

lusty grotto
#

i really want to hear their reasoning for putting our damage buffs below prot pally

toxic pewter
#

Oh nice they nerfed augmentations rallying cry encroachment even more

#

Hell yeah

lusty grotto
#

makes no sense

#

if anything it should be up 1% more than prot pala

#

not the other way around

toxic pewter
#

Omg I skipped over paladin

#

8% u kiddin me

crude notch
#

smh

#

mad at prot pally getting a bigger buff, but not mad that bear didn't get their damage touched lol

lusty grotto
#

i mean if the idea is for other tanks to be at bear's level, im ok with no nerfs

#

so long as they nerf AtW and shit like that

crude notch
#

Blame Sense

lusty grotto
#

we are basically the tank with less utility

sick sentinel
toxic pewter
#

Hope this makes the tanks more balanced in the end

sullen valve
#

Bro
Prot warrior is SAVED

sick sentinel
#

blizzard paladin favoritism

sullen valve
#

WE ARE OP

lusty grotto
#

we dont have brez, we dont have grip, we dont have off healing/freedom/sac/etc

#

id say brew is close

crude notch
#

@south zealot wait

lusty grotto
#

to our level of uselessness utilitywise

sullen valve
#

But does prot paladin have me working on their wowA?

crude notch
#

are you in imperative?

sick sentinel
#

i love hunters

sick sentinel
#

hunters are my most favorite part about wow getting to play with hunter

plush tendon
#

make hunters great again!

crude notch
#

@south zealot basically your 120k FH +24 becomes 126k. HUGE

warm plinth
#

Already had like 2 people be like ooh BM buffs

#

And I'm like yeah, they buffed everything except what matters

sick sentinel
#

BM hunter lgeit might be the easiest spec of wow

warm plinth
#

As a BM player, probably

crude notch
#

yeah a massive like 1.5% buff in ST

#

HUGE

#

GINORMOUS

sick sentinel
#

15

#

not 1.5

crude notch
#

no yogi

warm plinth
#

No, 1.5%

crude notch
#

it amounts to 1.5%

sick sentinel
#

so 4.5% dps

crude notch
#

no

sick sentinel
#

cuz 3 abilities

crude notch
#

1.5%

#

Kill shot literally does 700 dps in ST

sick sentinel
#

1.5% is still a number

warm plinth
#

This is the breakdown for a ST boss

#

in key

#

Kill Shot buff is basically jack shit

#

And the other two aren't much better.

sick sentinel
#

i liked MM and bm

#

survival omegalul

crude notch
#

cool you can still like them

sick sentinel
#

a well played hunter can just really make the group or not

proper roost
#

yo that was a gamer group the tank didn't even do chains correct but we +2'd lol @daring marlin

#

we literally only used 2 chains entire key keks

#

ok log on

#

please

#

🥺

crude notch
#

I think I BDK main the rest of the seaon.

sick sentinel
#

again i will say this a billion times over

#

a well played bdk is amazing

#

they make it things very nice and easy for groups

crude notch
#

WW buff also only 2% kek

plush tendon
#

WW are on life support

#

someone help my 5% phys dam buff please ❤️

proper roost
#

:aaaaaa: where guilford!!

sick sentinel
#

blizzard holding child up above water evoker tag drowning child monks and whatever else sucks right now

#

so us, enh, etc

toxic pewter
#

Ngl the tank balance will be best it’s ever been starting Tuesday

#

Can’t wait

#

These are good and thoughtful buffs

charred gyro
toxic pewter
#

Lookin good to me

charred gyro
#

Sure try to survive a 30% first pull lair pull on warrior

crude notch
#

Uh

plush tendon
#

I imagine guardian is gonna get another nerf soonish

toxic pewter
#

Bdk got 10% but in order to even get max dps on that spec you have to actually know what you’re doing

chilly brook
#

@crude notch

toxic pewter
plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

i have no issues with that pull

plush tendon
#

we make up for it with some meaty reflects on the last boss

lusty grotto
#

of course i dont pull furies because fuck em

sick sentinel
#

dratnos video about the nerfs already

toxic pewter
#

Yeah exactly why even pull them

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

surv isnt the problem

#

except for the dumb magic dots and bleeds

#

as always

plush tendon
#

its all about Quazzi 1 min tik toc guides

sick sentinel
#

wasnt he in todays tgp?

crude notch
sick sentinel
#

i could be wrong

plush tendon
#

maybe another nerf in 2 weeks

#

and one in 4 weeks

sick sentinel
#

another 2 more weeks you say

crude notch
#

Nah they'll wait until after the third group

#

In tgp

plush tendon
#

would rather they not send the vengeful wrath of god on Bear and knock em down too hard

crude notch
#

But then before grand finals in August

#

They'll nerf maul/raze next and that'll probably be it

lusty grotto
#

no doubt about it, the reason they didnt apply hotfix right now is that TGP is running

#

i dont even know why that's still a consideration

plush tendon
#

they usually dont hotfix stuff like this... do they?

lusty grotto
#

"e-sports"

plush tendon
#

like, that seems like a tuesday reset type thing

lusty grotto
#

i guess so

plush tendon
#

to a extent

lusty grotto
#

well its advertisement for the game

#

so yes it does

plush tendon
#

but of course, missing out on all the great 10-15min content videos complaining about nerfs mid TGP from the players

#

sooooo

crude notch
#

uh

#

They commonly do this

#

Announce nerfs on Friday, do nerfs on Tuesday

#

No matter what's going on