protection

[sick sentinel]

hulks and chunks hit for too much on 20s?

[warm plinth]

I do the hulk pull on tyr weeks but I do it all together instead of it being 2 separate pulls

But in the average pug it's probably asking a lot

There's a lot going on in that pull

[proper roost]

yeah u cant really do that in pugs outside of like really high keys

feel like you need a healer in voice with you anyway for an external

[warm plinth]

People will standi n worm frontals or get hit by the chunk aoe or get frontaled because they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off

[round pendant]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-and-pvp-catch-up-boxes-now-available-buy-alt-gear-with-flightstones-and-334161

actually kinda poggies

[sick sentinel]

i like, move him from left to right

[round pendant]

aka "headless chickens"

[sick sentinel]

like that

[warm plinth]

Why do you move him at all

[sick sentinel]

since there is a green after he does the brown swirl

[round pendant]

I just skip that dude

[warm plinth]

Fracture will knock you out of the chunk circle

So you just move the pack wherever he knocks you

[proper roost]

hokay finally

[warm plinth]

But yeah in a pug I just don't think it's worth doing that pull, and it's especially not worth it as its own pull

[proper roost]

finished a good hoi 17

[warm plinth]

Because you're essentially fighting 2 mobs; the skitters will die hella fast and you're just left w/ the chunk and hulk

[proper roost]

gonna catch up to my shaman's io quick

[sick sentinel]

okay, well, i am going to take it into consideation

[warm plinth]

well, make sure you ask trade chat, since you trust them more than me

[proper roost]

Well the main reason you don't need to do that pull is because NL isn't a tight timer until you get to high keys

and yeah

💀

[sick sentinel]

trade chat has never ever lied to me

not once

[proper roost]

yogi and disregarding all skyhold advice but only listening to random people as if gospel in his +13s

on

GOD

[sick sentinel]

i did 2 17 freholds today

well, at least one

and i also did a 17 lair on time

[round pendant]

You get this in literally any place where people go for info, people literally like "But some random fucking guy told me the opposite of what everyone here is saying so I'm not gonna believe you"

shit's so annoying

it's like, then why the fuck are you here?

[empty inlet]

💀

[round pendant]

no offense yogi, love u bud

[sick sentinel]

well, if i didnt enjoy the game iand wasn't trying to improve, i wouldnt be here

[toxic pewter]

Yogi has made a lot of progress and even seen his logs before he’s done solid numbers

He’s been in purple parses for key level brackets

[round pendant]

pog

[empty inlet]

key parse 💀

[sick sentinel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k3ATZ2Gmq6zpNQYL/

this is a log i just created

has my failed lair 17 in there

gaps in my SB, only 91%

[round pendant]

The lair log seems broken?

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[round pendant]

I hope you're not looking at the buff uptime

You should look at the damage taken tab and mouse over melee (after selecting yourself)

and other blockable attacks

[sick sentinel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cxk1J4qGNBYb2pVz/#fight=last

thats the lair

[daring marlin]

Wild rain lol

I wanna reflect this deluge

[sick sentinel]

southern usa? there is huricanes coming in week or 2 i think

is like, around hawaii bremuda triangle area and i figur all that storm woudl send rain to southern usa

[round pendant]

What should I level: DH, Monk, Druid, Priest or Shaman

[jagged gust]

Feel the power of the bear

[sick sentinel]

its called, your car is called spell block right now

and the rain is the spell

[daring marlin]

Driid

druid even

[round pendant]

Ye I'm thinking druid since I kinda always wanted one

[toxic pewter]

I mean I look at damage done for key level

[round pendant]

I mean, you don't get a 95+ parse in dps by being shit at the game

So it's a valid metric in some way

Personally I'm not happy with anything below that if the key went well

Problem with keys is that there's a lot of things that can grief your parse

grats dude

What the fuck?

[sick sentinel]

RIP bozo

[round pendant]

I was so excited for a second

[toxic pewter]

Tankian parsed a 95 in freehold for key% damage

[proper roost]

Today is so fucking cursed man

[toxic pewter]

GOTTANG yogi pumping

[proper roost]

my group lead

for 2 different keys

d/ced mid key

what the FUCK

[warm plinth]

Yeah that checkmark seems very inconsistent sometimes. Usually happens to me when I'm trying a bunch of names in a short period.

[round pendant]

It was my first attempt :(

Oh well back to accents

They should really introduce the # system to char names tbh

just have it kinda faded out or hidden til you mouse over them

[warm plinth]

Accents are cringe. Just be more original smfh

[round pendant]

If by original you mean like

really fucking dogshit 3 word names

[proper roost]

i have no accents in any of my names and mine are not dogshit

yours just suck

[round pendant]

but every other name I've ever wanted has been taken

[proper roost]

be more original

[toxic pewter]

My name are best names

I just open up google maps and find some random street

That my new name

[proper roost]

ALRIGHT i go a fuckin gane

[daring marlin]

whatever you say rummel

[round pendant]

Is there literally any downside to playing on dead realms nowadays?

like I'm talking servers with <2k characters

[warm plinth]

You can still only get crafts from your server group

[round pendant]

Oh yeah that's an issue

Wonder how bad it is though

[mighty valley]

if you find a niche that has no crafters, you could become a god

[toxic pewter]

so I guess I take all kinds of map data into consideration

[jagged gust]

I maxed BS and later maxed JC in under a day, unless you want something incredibly niche you can be pretty self sufficient in terms of crafting

[round pendant]

That doesn't let you make 447 gear without some investment though, right?

[jagged gust]

Depends, if you're rolling a fresh alt it'll take you a few weeks to grind your reps, if you're transferring then it'll take you a max of 1-2 resets to max out rings and neck

[proper roost]

yesssss rewarded

[jagged gust]

I already had a few reps at 24 when I swapped from mining to JC so I basically had instant access to ~120 skill points

[proper roost]

socketed hero ring

[daring marlin]

Ticket unanswered?

or did they tell you to git gud?

[proper roost]

not answered yet

3 days

[jagged gust]

So long as you have hammer control maxed you only need 10-20 points into an armor to 447 it, a little less or more depending on embellishes and how much you want to rely on inspiration or Illustrious Insight

[round pendant]

Oh that's not bad tbh

I might stop fucking paying people 15k per item then

and just level this shit on my alts

[toxic pewter]

Wat fastest way get specialization points

[jagged gust]

oh yeah thats what I did, it's incredibly cheap to get to 85 crafting, then just use your alts and send yourself crafting orders with their free spark of ingenuities to max out your skill points

Loamm vendor sells spec points for boulders, 2 tiers I think, so there's 10, consortium sells them for mettle, 3 tiers for another 15, hitting 14 and 24 rep will give you another... I think it's 5? Maybe more for gathering professions per tier, so thats another 10, there's a good 25 or so from world items, just use handynotes to find them, the skilled people who give you a free 5 points, then the weekly 8-10 from weeklies, and then the 50 or so from your first crafts

It'll take you like 2-3 hours so long as the rep is already unlocked, otherwise you're timegated by the rep grind

[daring marlin]

Thanks bro

Gonna do this

[crude notch]

yw

[lusty grotto]

so apparently

details added predicted damage?

am i late to this?

[warm plinth]

They added "real time" damage which is basically useless.

[lusty grotto]

i see

[warm plinth]

It's basically the same thing that warcraftlogs shows in their graph on the damage done page. It's a 5 second average of how much damage you did in those 5 seconds. Hardly useful. The only possible use I can see is tracking burst windows or add damage in a raid but you can also just look at, you know, damage done to the add or damage done to the shield, etc.

[daring marlin]

not red

[toxic pewter]

Can’t play wow for 8 days

[daring marlin]

?

[toxic pewter]

Goin to Boston

[daring marlin]

A much needed break

[toxic pewter]

Yes

Should of left my pc on to Remote Desktop in and play though

🤔

[sick sentinel]

turn off eh bro.... lol

[toxic pewter]

What is that

Oh is that that elitist helper addon

🤣

[sick sentinel]

i would once again like to thank freehold

[dusky canopy]

M exp would you lust as soon as boss 2 spawns?

[south zealot]

you can do that

you can also lust right after the first round of mechanics

or on pull

[warm plinth]

Gotta broaden your horizons friend

[proper roost]

yeah this is where most people lust

[round pendant]

Anyone know which dungeons are most played for levelling? I just wanna dungeon spam to 60

[warm plinth]

Like which expansion?

[round pendant]

yee

[warm plinth]

Probably BFA

[round pendant]

yuckers

Those dungeons are actually effort lmao

[mighty valley]

legit just seems like classic, the quests are all in the front

[warm plinth]

Cata are good too if you're at the right level

[mighty valley]

and there are more of them so you get less repeats

[warm plinth]

Yeah, the dungeon quests are good

I'd probably do BFA first, then do Cata around the 35-40 mark since 35-45 are the relative highest required XP of the process

so you will have the dungeon quests to get you through it a bit faster

[crude notch]

👀

dungeon leveling you say

[daring marlin]

brown jordan

lmao

[crude notch]

eh cba correcting any of that

gn

[toxic pewter]

i m very strong

[daring marlin]

power full individual?

[toxic pewter]

Yes correct

[lusty grotto]

quest mains feeling good

seratonin surge

best feeling in wow 😄

[toxic pewter]

I want go home

[dusky canopy]

We keep getting insane dispell overlap with the breath from boss 3 spawning

like it seems wild

[proper roost]

yeah they just need to like

use AM and shit

big healing cds

do it before or after

🤷

does your group know to hold dps if they're behind the check on the initial spawn of boss 2?

the 0:58 check is really hard to hit

[dusky canopy]

were pretty consistantly getting thadius spawn at 1:00-1:03

thats with holding lust until thad spawns

[proper roost]

ya so that's really bad

thats like

literally the worst

way to do it

[dusky canopy]

First eruption on our best pull was 1:40 second was 2:35

[proper roost]

the eruption is w/e

its the fact that ur getting a debuff

insta

[proper roost]

yo wtf

you like 2 shot zskarn*

and magmorax

already?

[modern gazelle]

you guys kill mag too?]

or just assuming you wont wipe next week when you fight the hardest boss in the raid?

the last 22% is the hard part

[proper roost]

oh yeah for sure absolute joke

[modern gazelle]

mag gonna rip you apart

dont diss him

respect the loot goblin of the raid

he showers us in free loot

[proper roost]

i've literally never seen anyone talk about echo for pwar i think you are not an issue whatsoever

its just rdps learn to count

toxic

[modern gazelle]

only thing ive heard benching for is for sark

for the new stupid cheese

wish people werent so meta focused, druids are def best right now but every tank is viable at high end content for m+ and raids

people crutch on fotm too much

[dusky canopy]

@proper roost what do you achiev by meeting the 0;58 second timing?

does it cause better timing for violent eruption?

[proper roost]

(same thing but for later)

you should not get the 0:58 one you should just wait and get the 1:15 one or w/e it is

[lusty grotto]

afaik the only difficult part of echo is calamitous strike taunting

you can just bop and cancelaura to make it comfy

but that's p3 anyway

[dusky canopy]

Thanks homie, ill pass along the info and see if it helps the group

[hollow flower]

Does more haste more good still apply (even over 30%)?

[proper roost]

@lusty grotto

[narrow sorrel]

any advice for Deios in Dawn of the infinite?

I imagine it is due to it being mostly physical damage, the mobility is helpful to deal with sunder shadow, and Challenging shout for calamity strikes in p3. At least I assume getting hit by calamity strike makes you take extra damage from adds?

[slender terrace]

SR dmg in NL isn't counted in WCLs?

[dense hound]

Its not your dmg its his so in logs he is "just" hitting himself

[warm plinth]

Yeah the only reason it shows in Details as your damage is because they implemented a script that does it so that it shows on meters.

[pastel trout]

basics of prot war.... keep shield block up (can you get 100% uptime?) keep your IP shield full and dont over cap rage, is that kinda it or am i missing something else?

[proper roost]

Yes and parenthetical yes. No, yes

Respectively

[chilly brook]

press your cooldowns on CD (avatar/demoralizing shout/last stand)
press shield slam on CD
don't cap rage (keeping IP shield full isn't a "goal" it's just a happy accident sometimes because of high rage generation)
block as many hits as possible

[warm plinth]

ALL THE CDs

[proper roost]

griff forgot shield charge

[warm plinth]

And Thunderous Roar. And Ravager.

Griff is noob confirmed

[chilly brook]

[pastel trout]

but is 100% SB uptime possible
?

[slender terrace]

if you ran the extended SB talent

maybe

but kinda a waste

[chilly brook]

no

but you can get pretty close to 100% effective uptime

[chilly brook]

basically true, I bricked my 20 FH

[pastel trout]

its weird to have to time my SB after playing bear for a year

[round pendant]

damn guardian druid is actually pretty fun

[pastel trout]

yeah its a blbast

not swapping or anything, just found i really enjoy tanking so i thought i wouold level up my warrior

[warm plinth]

How did you do that @chilly brook

[chilly brook]

cuz I'm bad

but mostly because I died on 2nd boss as aug

[warm plinth]

😢

I still love and appreciate you

[pastel trout]

sorry weird question

do prot wars have any self sustain

[chilly brook]

kinda

[warm plinth]

We leech a lot

[chilly brook]

tldr you heal yourself through spending rage and you leech from damage

[pastel trout]

sorry if these are dumb questions

[chilly brook]

you also have a decent-ish heal on a 30 second Cd

but the goal isn't to heal back damage

[pastel trout]

Imp Vistory?

[warm plinth]

30% heal on 25 sec CD is also pretty broken

[chilly brook]

it's to not take damage

[warm plinth]

considering most specs have the same heal on like 3x as long CD

[chilly brook]

let me simp in your keys then

[proper roost]

how do you die on the 2nd boss of fh

hover

use the hover key

you even have a cd

[chilly brook]

you really don't wanna know

it's called breath of eons

and using it a tad bit too early

[proper roost]

literally 50% damage reduction during

[chilly brook]

during

during doesn't cover you when it ends

[proper roost]

don't breath into literally the one avoidable aoe during it

[chilly brook]

oh really

no shit you insufferable jackass

[proper roost]

cheat death haver...

[chilly brook]

fucking crazy that someone fucks up

as I understand you wouldn't know anything about that since your shit never stinks

[proper roost]

uh

are you ok

jesus lol

[warm plinth]

I would but pretty sure we basically never play at the same time

[brittle owl]

@chilly brook 2023 skyhold hits different

[chilly brook]

nah bro you're always so out of pocket

[tight dawn]

what are people generally using to sim m+? patchwerk 5-8 targets at what 40s?

[south zealot]

i dont

[warm plinth]

A 40s sim is basically useless. Frankly even 1.5 min sims are useless in my opinion. I sim longer periods of time (usually about 3 mins for both ST and AoE) because I want realistic sims. I'm not going to have CDs simultaneously for every pack so I get a better picture of what my average is going to look like if I do a longer AoE sim. And 3 mins is a pretty typical boss fight even on tyrannical unless you're doing really high keys. Outside of certain bosses ofc.

[tight dawn]

Thanks that's helpful. What's your target usually? I understand all dungeons are going to be different (brakenhide vs halls etc)

target count*

[warm plinth]

Target? Like number of targets you mean?

[tight dawn]

yah

[warm plinth]

You can do either 5 or 8 honestly you'll probably get a decent result either way, at least in terms of what item is better.

I don't think your stat priorities differ much, if at all, from 5 targets to 8

You might see something like Forgestorm fall off harder past 5 targets, but that's about it

[tight dawn]

awesome thanks heaps

[brittle owl]

out of pocket out of mind

[chilly brook]

Normally not super into blowing up on people on discord but like fuck me, dude always out of no where comes and pushes buttons

[narrow sorrel]

I would just like to add to use revenge when you don't need the shield, but make sure to use ignore pain to avoid overcapping.

and if anyone has any tips for Deios(Dawn) lmk.

[tardy lily]

hello, I am supposed ot tank on our mythic progress on Experiments. Any tips you can give meh here? OI know thatm osto f the stuff is magic dmg and I am anxious about it. My cotank is a Prot Paladin.

[warm plinth]

numbing poison, curse of weakness, and insidious chill

[pastel trout]

By shield you mean IP? At what point would you not need it? Isn't taking no damage the goal?

[orchid gulch]

Our main mitigation Is shield block, IP is the cherry on top if we can't block something, take unblockable (read:magic, bleed, etc) damage, if a huge hit is coming in or if we need to dump rage

If you play properly, Revenge and SB isn't enough to prevent overcapping so you'll cast plenty of IP in your regular rotation

[zenith vale]

why mastery is good for us now ?

[orchid gulch]

We can easily achieve 100% block uptime nowadays, so critical block is far from useless nowadays, so a bit of mastery is actually beneficial

[zenith vale]

Ah ok

[orchid gulch]

You probably shouldn't stack it though

[zenith vale]

Attack power doesn’t add a lot of dmgs for us ?

[orchid gulch]

It adds some of it, but haste in conjunction with AM and crit in general perform better than the AP gained from Mastery

[zenith vale]

Ok

[uneven mason]

All of our stats tend to be very close in value, stats all scale with each other so occasionally yes, you'll want more AP.

[zenith vale]

thank you

[crude notch]

Ah heck I missed some sauce

Oh that was five hours ago.

Dead channel kekw

[vagrant oracle]

Reference the pin on what’s blockable/reflectable. Don’t let them touch. Deal more damage than the altar boy with a shield.

[tardy lily]

already checked that, but besides this ii am a bit on the endge how to survive the constant magic dmg intake. is spell block any help there? i gguess not against the tank dot? should prot warriors thus maybe cleanse faster/on CD with cotank? 🤔

[jagged pier]

no

[crisp fractal]

You should always destack when the Debuff falls off, Spell Block does not help here its not bloackable. Do you guys not have a Pala heal?

[jagged pier]

u cant do that because u will get more stacks of the debuff

u literally combat it by using AA slows on the boss

so u never go above 6 anyway

[hazy bronze]

AA slows coming from rogues, DKs and warlocks

[jagged pier]

^

[tardy lily]

i see, and 6 is the ideal max? thanks

[jagged pier]

well no like anything below 10 should be managable

but with the correct AA slows and correct manegment of stacks u just never go above 6

[undone verge]

Call out for 2 weeks

[proper roost]

based

[undone verge]

But seriously, the scary part is when the third boss comes out, I ran echo trinket for our first two kills and it took us way too long to figure out that you should try to time stack clear with the third bosses breath

[proper roost]

echo trinket wtf

[undone verge]

Ward of faceless ire

[proper roost]

yeah

wtf

[crisp fractal]

i think first guy we did like this. CO-Tank starts, first Boss makes this rush to 3 People, I taunt. We destack after i am at around 6 to 7 stacks. He Taunts the Boss right bevor he dies und we destack as soon as the Dot falls off. I Start with second Boss and after that i dont rember exactly but always destack. The Dot on the Raid can always run as long as its only one stack.

[undone verge]

Dps trinkets are a crutch 🥱

[proper roost]

Ok nvm based

Bad melee dps smh my head

[crude notch]

gm kangaroo

[proper roost]

gm did you have fun in your 2v2v2v2's yesterday

[waxen frigate]

Kanga

[proper roost]

based

wait what happening to batman's hand

[waxen frigate]

Perspective

[proper roost]

apparently people were trying to post d4 devs' linkedins to dox and harass them

because they are that mad about the s1 patch

💀 blizzard fans are the most toxic out of any playerbase fr

[daring marlin]

bat grappel hook

fool

[crude notch]

People be wild.

[crude notch]

I did, thank you for asking.

[proper roost]

nice did you find a partner

[crude notch]

No, we fly solo to rank one

[proper roost]

Sadge

[crude notch]

With sweaty strats

[waxen frigate]

Guilford I’m still mad at you

[proper roost]

no... not the ali draven...

not like this..

[crude notch]

Who needs a partner when you can 1v2 as either Swain or morde

[proper roost]

yo so yesterday while i was holding chain lightning on aberrus trash I was thinking, you know

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-butcher-butcher-the-boys-karl-urban-evil-smile-gif-26061568

[crude notch]

Stakkik shiv meta?

[proper roost]

why don't they use the world event hooks to make raid trash more fun

like

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/grilled-parmesan-asparagus-vegetarian-delicious-gif-3417242

[proper roost]

you know how time rifts or w/e have multi stage events with varied thingamajigs

completion criteria

why can't raid trash be like that instead of always just shitty mobs you kill for no reason

i mean, having mobs is good and all but they literally have a system kinda set up for this and some dungeons do have this kind of thing to advance to the next area, like

uhh like halls of atonement for example, killing the golems to turn on first boss

why can't they do that for raid trash

maybe that's not a hot take, idk. Even in VOTI though the only non "just kill this trash" was the initial dragon assault gauntlet

which sucked

[daring marlin]

tldr

https://tenor.com/view/chris-evans-thegrayman-lloydhansen-gif-26865767

[crude notch]

We've had that for quite a few raids.

[daring marlin]

I wish all bosses had trash like flame leviathan

fuck them raiders

[crude notch]

The traps before Marrowgar, Flame Leviathan, Hellfire Assault, Champions of Light.

[proper roost]

yeah i was wondering if i missed a bunch of BFA raids that had this kind of thing idk

[sick sentinel]

like i say, its because those 2 dungeonms are basically fail proof and i need 447 items

[proper roost]

also didn't raid anything in SL

well ok so HFA sucked

[crude notch]

Yes

[proper roost]

marrowgar trash is still just dps things

[sick sentinel]

need 4-5 runs to get 4 aspect crest for the 447 item

[proper roost]

FL sucked

is Champions of Light antorus

[crude notch]

Nah BoD

[proper roost]

ah ok

[sick sentinel]

thats 2.5 hours and i can have a 447

so its just, fast and effective

[proper roost]

yeah idk I just wish there was more of it

more noncombat ways to clear to the next boss

[sick sentinel]

never been to florida

[proper roost]

like maybe something silly like "collect the sparks on the ground bring it to the glorb on the wall open the door"

[sick sentinel]

heard its nice

[daring marlin]

Temple of Sethraliss in a raid?

Sick

[proper roost]

yea i mean not all the time obviously

just like

for like one trash

Idk, I mean, even if it was overused, I think its way better than aberrus trash is rn. I just zone out and press chain lightning on my shaman

[crude notch]

Honestly bring back attuning

[proper roost]

on my warrior I just afk trash because ???

[sick sentinel]

temple is a key i dont want to run again due to 3rd and final boss

[proper roost]

carpal tunnel for fury is real issue and i'm not giving myself that

[sick sentinel]

3rd boss tyranical monka

[crude notch]

People gonna afk trash if it's gather 4 orbs or do trash.

Just be how it be

[proper roost]

well i'm fine with that

i'm just saying the raid trash is really uninspired

this entire expansion so far

[daring marlin]

Make more raid trash be like Ny'alotha

shit was gr8

[proper roost]

i just don't see why they can't do something like

like the researchers mini events

to clear a boss hallway

like that's a good mix of some combat, some non combat, not everyone has to participate

a miniboss or two

it'd be better

[sick sentinel]

lightning swirls on the final boss of temple was stupid

tons of random dead people to it

[daring marlin]

Yogi #1

[crude notch]

You're gonna have a hard time finding people that'll agree with you, Kanga. Most people are there to kill raid bosses and get loot, not piss around with trash and quirky put ball in hole mini games.

[proper roost]

that's literally what i'm saying tho

aberrus trash sucks

i'm not advocating for more trash i am advocating for different trash in place of the normal raid trash we would get

that way it sucks less

i think i'd find a ton of people who agree with me tbh

like probably 99% of raiders

[crude notch]

Well, Aberrus trash is mostly skippable

[proper roost]

because otherwise you'd literally just have to enjoy the trash

no its not lol

[crude notch]

Bruh what

[proper roost]

that's like saying sepulcher trash is "mostly skippable" because there were usually 2 parallel paths

[crude notch]

Most trash gets skipped in Aberrus m'dude

[daring marlin]

I thought trash was a way they previewed mechanics for bosses at times

[crude notch]

Used to be yeah

[proper roost]

yeah used to be but not anymore 💀

[proper roost]

ok literally show me which aberrus trash can be skipped and i'll show you that you still need to do 80% of it

the only skippable aberrus trash is because you go left or right and the other side doesn't need to be cleared

[crude notch]

This really ranks high on the dumbest discussions I've ever had

So you have fun

[waxen frigate]

Yea trash used to be mini boss mechanics

[proper roost]

it's not because you just haven't done aberrus

💀

[crude notch]

I've done Aberrus?

[daring marlin]

retvrn

[proper roost]

okge show me on the map where the skippable packs are

[waxen frigate]

@daring marlin I’ll kill you

[proper roost]

no you're just objectively wrong lol

[toxic pewter]

[proper roost]

not even 50% of the instance's trash can be skipped

[crude notch]

Even if I am wrong

[daring marlin]

Nish when I get back from the gym I'll post not undercooked chicken

[waxen frigate]

Probably burnt

[daring marlin]

you fuckin' weirdboi

[crude notch]

Doesn't mean you get to be a jerk

[proper roost]

it's more like 20-25% in total because you literally just don't need to go that way (just like sepulcher)

which hardly counts as being skippable

that's like calling 70% of M+ dungeons skippable because you literally don't even need to path that way

[crude notch]

Alright as I said, you clearly care more about this than I do since you resorted to trying to insult me.

So

Goodbye

[toxic pewter]

Attention any agencies: I am not associated with this individual whatsoever in any way shape or form

[waxen frigate]

Attention FBI apb is my handler I work for him

[toxic pewter]

That is not true

I want it on the record

[crude notch]

morning just Nish and apb

[waxen frigate]

Attention NSA apb is my dad

GM

[crude notch]

apb did you sell your drugs this morning?

[crude notch]

just M, no GM

[daring marlin]

https://twitter.com/johnny_onelung/status/1682138007443238912?s=46&t=pKJqAaes9gysilv22ZNTqA

Johnnyonelung (@Johnny_OneLung)

Reminder that streamers aren't real people:

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 9:18 PM

This you?

[waxen frigate]

Should I go get a breakfast sandwich

God that is the most krista clip I’ve ever seen

[toxic pewter]

Yes, yes you should

[waxen frigate]

Ok boss

[proper roost]

nish did you have fun pushing keys this week

[waxen frigate]

I haven’t pushed keys this week

[proper roost]

oh i thought you said you did like a 25 this week

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/top-top-of-the-mornin-to-ya-cats-gif-9436667

[waxen frigate]

I did on Monday

[proper roost]

oh ok did you have fun

[waxen frigate]

Ya

I’ve been gearing my Paladin in wotlk

[sick sentinel]

need 4 more sparks like, today, i want to say, but like by monday realistically

[proper roost]

gross

[sick sentinel]

fuckin,

[proper roost]

do you need help farming a soup

[sick sentinel]

crests

sorry crests not spark lmao, probably do need 4 sparks total

[waxen frigate]

@toxic pewter breakfast sandwich or cheesesteak

[daring marlin]

fat

[sick sentinel]

cloak, minimum 1 ring, and uhhhh...... maybe a trinket.... but i doubt it....

[waxen frigate]

I need energy to plot your downfall

[daring marlin]

I can't hear you

mumbling cuz fat

[proper roost]

christ i wish that was me

ok nish just ignored my offer of help that's cool too

[waxen frigate]

It can be UwU

Oh

Soul preserver

No I already have one

I’m swapping Ret tho

[proper roost]

based

not based

fuck you

[toxic pewter]

Unironically why not both? Breakfast sandwich first and half the cheesesteak. Then eat other half for lunch/dinner

[proper roost]

the ret pally guide isn't even wrote good

mine owns

[waxen frigate]

Bro I just hit the button that lights up

It’s Ret in wrath

[proper roost]

it's more complicated than that you have to glyph swap!!

[waxen frigate]

I’m yoinking a raid spot from a father of 3 who is beloved by his guild

[proper roost]

Hell yeah fuck that guy

[lusty grotto]

[waxen frigate]

My friend is the raid leader bc he’s a retail raider and it’s a dad guild

So I basically have giga privilege

[proper roost]

i stole my warrior's raid spot from an ex marine who spammed death threats at someone in a BG 2 weeks before season 2 started and got a 30 day ban

[waxen frigate]

Lmao

[daring marlin]

Prolly old

Hope it's true tho

[waxen frigate]

Surely fake

[proper roost]

fake as hell

[daring marlin]

I can HOPE

except everbloom

terrible

[crude notch]

you can hope to not do a full season of keys

[proper roost]

there is no way they redo grim batol bud

have you seen the textures in that zone

[toxic pewter]

Holy shit would love this so much if true

[daring marlin]

I want it

[proper roost]

blizz literally was like 1 of the main criteria for redoing an instance was that it doesn't look shitty

[daring marlin]

That dungeon and the bosses were sick

[proper roost]

and grim batol has literal vanilla textures

and geometry

[toxic pewter]

That’s a solid list of dungeons

[lusty grotto]

WHO DID THIS?!

WHO

[proper roost]

a bad liar is who

hmph

[crude notch]

someone got it from someone who got it from someone who won't provide a source, ofc

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[waxen frigate]

They were out of the breakfast sandwich that I like so I had to get a less good one

[daring marlin]

Nim lmaoooooo

[toxic pewter]

That sucks

[waxen frigate]

Apb do I have your permission to put a bomb in their mailbox

[crude notch]

i eat breffy sammich rn

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ

why you gotta be like this Nish

[daring marlin]

Bis dungeon list tbh

[crude notch]

that list is fakee doesn't have a 3-boss dungeon

[daring marlin]

Only cuz every week

[waxen frigate]

?

[daring marlin]

Every 2h guy will be like "another week of no getti :("

[crude notch]

lol ikr

[waxen frigate]

It’s impolite not to ask permission

[lusty grotto]

i guarantee we're getting MoS

[dusky canopy]

Ngl if this is the rotation I’m out for a season lol

[lusty grotto]

ill delete nimchipadin if thats not the case

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8jcfQtE948

[dusky canopy]

Or just perma no brain power dpsing

For the season

[daring marlin]

Brew I thought you were a based chad

[sick sentinel]

morshu is my thing

[daring marlin]

how unfortunate

[proper roost]

yeah if they ever do everbloom i'm not playing that season

Insanely bad dungeon

[daring marlin]

Everbloom only L in there tbh

[lusty grotto]

wdym just do mount evoker rescue skip

🙂

[dusky canopy]

I literately cannot stand everbloom or siege of boralas

[sick sentinel]

im tempted to RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and uninstall-quit on seing KR

[crude notch]

honestly should just be pure cheese dungeons

gimme

[toxic pewter]

Everbloom is good dungeon

[sick sentinel]

first boss KR tyranical, oh fuck

[waxen frigate]

That list is pure rage bait

[daring marlin]

GROW A PAIR YOU BABIES

YEESH

[proper roost]

it's not even the everbloom skip. Half the bosses there suck

[daring marlin]

nish how would you even know

SL BABY

[dusky canopy]

On the flip I actually like kings rest

Challenging but cool

[lusty grotto]

how dare you include Siege in that list brew

how dare you

[dusky canopy]

Just wasn’t a fan

[sick sentinel]

Oh what's that? you enjoy mchimba mechanics?

[crude notch]

we get kr i'm playing bdk

for getti

[sick sentinel]

or any of the dungeon except for final boss, only free part of the entire dungeon

[dusky canopy]

It’s fine whenever dungeons suck I just dps

[lusty grotto]

<- proud owner of mummy raptor

[dusky canopy]

Mummy raptor owns

[sick sentinel]

im scared of that big blue giant fucker after 2nd boss

[waxen frigate]

I just got back to my desk with my breakfast sandwich

[crude notch]

yogi, this sounds like a skill issue

[dusky canopy]

Yo that guy that jumps down from the ceiling yogi!?

[sick sentinel]

i don't like him lmao

[dusky canopy]

That dude is sick

[sick sentinel]

fuck that guy

[waxen frigate]

And my boss told me “stand by your life is about to change”

Monka

[dusky canopy]

It’s so funny watching people get yeeted to space

[lusty grotto]

100%

[toxic pewter]

I disavow this individual

[sick sentinel]

maybe they have com up with a good enough solution to bring back explosives or have a suitable replacement fo rit

[crude notch]

my favorite thing about kr is people eating the frontal from starting golems

[dusky canopy]

@daring marlin ok ok tbf I was much more noob when any of those dungeons were present so a second go around might change my opinion

So there’s a chance I’m more based

[lusty grotto]

ah yes the gatekeeper KR gang

[sick sentinel]

that 2nd room trash after those 2 is really gross

[lusty grotto]

luckily people have been trained by the UR dudes

[sick sentinel]

i still call it undersuck

[lusty grotto]

gets chain feared

[dusky canopy]

I disliked undr when it was present

But I like it now

[lusty grotto]

same same

i fucking hated underrot in bfa

[crude notch]

disliking UR is so cringe

[sick sentinel]

not a fan of that place at all, like UR isn't the worst ever, but its sure as fuck up there

[lusty grotto]

its comfy now

[dusky canopy]

Same nim same

[sick sentinel]

i always hated it

[crude notch]

you don't say

[daring marlin]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OVuiP3W6ZUE&feature=sharea

Metro had some funny tanking spots here

Me and the hpal were like ???

[sick sentinel]

my biggest gripe about UR is the 2nd and 3rd boss

[dusky canopy]

SPRIEST HPAL

No way

[sick sentinel]

more 2nd boss

[lusty grotto]

corruption hpal was sick

but idk about sp

[dusky canopy]

Hell yeah it was

[sick sentinel]

ticks is very skill check

[dusky canopy]

That’s when glimmer was op

[lusty grotto]

imagine attacking any ticks, i dont know what those are, they never show up on my runs

[waxen frigate]

Pog I didn’t get fired I’m just moving to a different department

[proper roost]

dude i think holy prism keeps pulling ticks in my hpally's underrots

[sick sentinel]

yeah i know right

but then you see them anyways

[proper roost]

i keep seeing one of my lasers just go

[daring marlin]

trolling

[sick sentinel]

like seagulls trying to shit on your car

[proper roost]

right into them

on the first pull

i have no idea why! it's not supposed to hit things that aren't in combat with you

💀

[rigid badge]

Is there any Site or something where I can find out which one is a good Def Trinket? Something like bloodmallet.com but for Def?

[waxen frigate]

Nope

[crude notch]

that's not measurable.

[sick sentinel]

there IS a way to stop ticks from dealing any damage, but fuck if i know how it works

[waxen frigate]

The current good defensive trinkets are from brackenhide and lair though

[sick sentinel]

its something about when they die, they do frontal cone that deals melee dot

[dusky canopy]

Generally you just have to ask around, the best option imo is talisman from NL followed by Splinter from BH

[rigid badge]

There are two on Lair, which one is the better one?

[sick sentinel]

and you can like cc them during cast, or out range it or some shit and you dont get hit

[waxen frigate]

Both are solid but talisman is generally better

The vers one

[crude notch]

smh vers

[rigid badge]

Thank you! 🙂

[sick sentinel]

but i also told someone here yesterday that reflect only does 50% dmg if u wall for 50% dr

so take what i say grain of salt

[lusty grotto]

maybe dont pull them?

like i said

i NEVER pull ticks in UR

ever

not once

[crude notch]

what about twice?

[lusty grotto]

yes, not twice

[sick sentinel]

i agree, just its like, you go fishing, don't anticipate to catch catfish most ppl

[lusty grotto]

not 2 time blockbuster videogame champion

[crude notch]

yogi wtf did i just read

[lusty grotto]

if your group cant fucking stomp em on crawg they dont deserve to time

thats it

[sick sentinel]

this is why i don't want to run KR

axe bitch

just simply axe bitch

all that needs to be said don't even need explain boss past that

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[daring marlin]

Everybody loves totem boss on tyrannical

[sick sentinel]

axe girl first is we win 100%

cuz then we have cds and possibly lust

[crude notch]

axe girl is fine if you know how to position the boss yogi, so

[sick sentinel]

i prefer axes first, and then totems last

the other i forget who he is or what he does but i have to DR him is what i remember

[lusty grotto]

yeah, that one guy

[crude notch]

chargy boy where you just dodge his charge

[sick sentinel]

can't allow him to knock off ledge, axes CAN do that but stupid if let it happen

[lusty grotto]

in that one place

[crude notch]

monk cheesed the charge

[sick sentinel]

isnt the actual mechanic for the charge supposed to be target needs to have a soak or 2?

soak in line i think

[lusty grotto]

yes but were prot

[crude notch]

ye

[lusty grotto]

and prot doesnt give a shit

[crude notch]

Backhand is the mechanic i'm thinking of

[sick sentinel]

im still way more afraid of first boss tyranical

[daring marlin]

Backhand was lit

just parry it

[crude notch]

yep

[lusty grotto]

ye

1st boss is the only problem we're gonna have because we dont have safeguard anymore

well

technically not our problem

[sick sentinel]

no, charge is NOT the thing i am thinking about on the trio

[lusty grotto]

just let paladins handle it

[sick sentinel]

he also does some huge melee shit

and it 1 shots you on a 20

[crude notch]

backhand

keep up yogi

[sick sentinel]

what is backhand i want to say he does 300% dmg on a 2second cast

[proper roost]

backhand d- hm

nevermind

[daring marlin]

It puts a physical damage vuln on the tank

[sick sentinel]

there might be a more backhand stacks thiong cant recall

[crude notch]

yes

that's why you had your dh taunt and blade dance dodge

[daring marlin]

I hope that list was fake

[crude notch]

it is 100p

[daring marlin]

It didn't have TD on it

We need TD

[crude notch]

Oh true

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/keyandpeele-fuck-fuckinghell-no-nope-gif-5053765

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto TD ganggang

[sick sentinel]

if blizzard puts in KR and TD im quitting the game forever

until 11.0

i understand how those dungeons work, but i hate them

[crude notch]

Tol Dagor
Plaguefall
Grim Batol
Junkyard
Atal'Dazar

Need a season where the dungeons do themselves

[sick sentinel]

motherload was fun

[daring marlin]

add ad in there since half the bosses kill themselves too

[crude notch]

oh true

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-wrong-whats-wrong-with-you-steve-harvey-gif-4517705

[proper roost]

should i level blacksmithing on one of my alts so i can be cheap and not have to tip other people every time i crafting order

[sick sentinel]

i want to negogiate TD with you

some of the obvious BS has to go

dc what there is bs in there, we all know it

keys is one of them

[proper roost]

i didn't realize how easy it was to be able to do 447 crafts

[sick sentinel]

like keys for the jail cells not for the gates

and cannons, we have like, 3 shots now? give us 5, or 10

[crude notch]

Willy bladeboy really did help us out there

[sick sentinel]

447 pants was literal 100% craft for me with insight and r3 mats

[daring marlin]

TD as is, best I can do.

[crude notch]

Bring back unlimited shots

[sick sentinel]

remove the tiny dungeon keys is the very minimum or make them way more and way easier to find

i don't want to have to filter dungeon by have to have rogue

[daring marlin]

bs/jc keys worked fine

[sick sentinel]

JC had an unlock? so did scroll makers i guess to

[daring marlin]

correct

[sick sentinel]

but, like, yeah, rogue was absurdly better than any of those options

[daring marlin]

hardly

[sick sentinel]

yellow boy unlock cast is 0.5 seconds

my cast is like 2

its not even remotely close at all

[daring marlin]

you only had to unlock like 4 cages

who cares

[sick sentinel]

6 i think, i know for sure 5

[crude notch]

yogi

[sick sentinel]

i want to say it was up to 7 cages if you wanted to 100% clear them

for tyranical say

or sanguine

[daring marlin]

literally

4

[daring marlin]

unlucky

[sick sentinel]

yes, but theres also cages with trash

[crude notch]

but you didn't clear those

[daring marlin]

you didn't want those trash

[proper roost]

i think 447 crafts minus embellishes are always 100% with insight

[daring marlin]

You had enough count without

[proper roost]

i just realized the main issue though is if i ever server transfer

getting an alt up is kinda pointless unless i also transfer them

[daring marlin]

kanga's yogi moment

ya love to see it

[sick sentinel]

the ones on jes howlis floor im pretty sure you did clear on bolster and sanguine weeks

[proper roost]

now i get yogi

[daring marlin]

LMAO

[proper roost]

everything you guys are talking about is entirely uninteresting

so just completely following my own conversational thread is owning

[sick sentinel]

jes howlis was a huge wipe point in BFA

[daring marlin]

https://cdn.apartmenttherapy.info/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto:eco,c_fill,g_auto,w_1500,ar_3:2/at%2Fart%2Fdesign%2F2020-08%2Fpivot

[modern brook]

[daring marlin]

Yogi rn

[sick sentinel]

hmmm im not sure i recall this 80's meme

[dusky canopy]

SMH

[modern brook]

friends was a 90s sitcom :/

[sick sentinel]

oh right friends, nope

[proper roost]

bro LITERALLY

[sick sentinel]

thats my sister

[proper roost]

who cares about bfa dungeon discussion

it was 3 years ago!! get over it!!

[sick sentinel]

I DO

[waxen frigate]

Nobody cares about your push week

[crude notch]

I laughed so hard

[sick sentinel]

presuming those dungeons return

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gunnars-mask-off-rage-world-of-warcraft-gif-22178131

[sick sentinel]

to fuck me over

once again

[daring marlin]

yes yogi

That's why

The devs are in the real world version of being john malkovich

Except it's being yogi123

[strong forum]

Identity theft is a serious crime

[daring marlin]

My gut hurts

LMAO

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-theoffice-identitytheft-not-a-joke-gif-4948829

[sick sentinel]

con air was good movie yo

i didn't realize there is a movie named "Being John Malkovich" watching trailer now, oh right, this trailer

i couldnt take it seriously last time and shut my brain off 30 seconds in at the 7 and half floor 2 feet tall

[proper roost]

it's a critically acclaimed movie yogi

[daring marlin]

speaking of movies with john malkovich in it

[proper roost]

how dare you

[daring marlin]

Yogi reminds me of Brad Pitt's character from Burn After Reading

[sick sentinel]

i prefer falling down

[daring marlin]

Is that the movie of your life if the dungeons you despise come back?

[sick sentinel]

this movie

[daring marlin]

Seen it multiple times. I know of it!

[proper roost]

god of course yogi would identify with falling down

that's honestly really fucking scary tbh

[waxen frigate]

We stopped serving breakfast

[waxen frigate]

Real

[lusty tiger]

I’m surprised I never saw this one

[daring marlin]

bruh

how

Have you also not seen American Beauty?

[waxen frigate]

It’s not that popular of a movie

[proper roost]

it either aged really poorly or really well depending on your point of view

[sick sentinel]

i like most action movies

[daring marlin]

[proper roost]

bruh

yogi looking at it like an action movie

[waxen frigate]

I think it’s a good movie

[proper roost]

and not the dystopian giga privileged

AHH

[sick sentinel]

rambo, 007, john wick all that type of shit

[proper roost]

it lacks

PERSPECTIVE

dude

[lusty tiger]

Correct, have not seen

[daring marlin]

????????

[proper roost]

and it has the most nihilistic bad world view

hmph

[sick sentinel]

well it doesn't want to be action movie but thats what it turns into

bunch of shoot outs and explosions

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/american-beauty-responsibility-resonsabilité-manager-burn-out-gif-19454743

[sick sentinel]

for instance, i recently a few months ago after years of critical acclaim hearing watched no country for old men

[waxen frigate]

John wick and falling down aren’t really what I’d call comparable

[lusty tiger]

I’m like 15

[sick sentinel]

and i found it interesting at parts but it left me completely unsatisfied with the ending

[waxen frigate]

@sick sentinel watch my favorite movie

Aguirre: The Wrath of God

[daring marlin]

movie is amazing

[proper roost]

ok i mean that's kind of the point yogi

[sick sentinel]

i was so let down it was unreal, i was expecting the sherrif or the guy to die

[daring marlin]

yogi it sounds like you didn't get the ending

but

Most people didn't

[waxen frigate]

https://youtu.be/K4Wq05AMSos

[proper roost]

it's like u didn't even listen to tommy lee jones' monologues

throughout the whole film

[sick sentinel]

i dont really get the ending your right

[proper roost]

!!!!

[sick sentinel]

he gets hit by a car

[daring marlin]

literally this

[sick sentinel]

jumps out

grabs clean clothes off kid

[lusty tiger]

Looks kinda lit

[sick sentinel]

and fucks off

and i thought it was so lame

[proper roost]

he literally explains the whole movie

[waxen frigate]

It’s a slow burn, 50 year old artsy historical epic

[proper roost]

Hmph

[waxen frigate]

But it’s amazing

And I guarantee you you’ll see the influence it had on several films that ended up far more famous

[sick sentinel]

i should probably watch it agaein some day

but my first viewing of it didnt really tell me fuck all

[daring marlin]

You should watch burn after reading

Movie is hilarious

[proper roost]

nish is like "watch 5 hours of lawrence of arabia you need to understand the lore"

(actually need to watch this)

[waxen frigate]

Aguirre isn’t very long tbh

But it’s literally a masterpiece and one of the most influential films of its era

[modern brook]

smh

Just watch the ring cycle and you can be even snootier about everything

[waxen frigate]

You’ve seen Apocalypse Now? Aguirre was the biggest inspiration for its cinematography

[sick sentinel]

have you guys played half life 1? or black mesa

and beat it

or pretty far in

damn thats a game

[dusky canopy]

Yogi are you serious

You don’t like no country for old men?

[sick sentinel]

i was mad at the ending

it felt like it was going in a different direction than what it was

all this killing and then he slinks away fucks off

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/seen-enough-internet-for-the-day-drop-computer-gif-15234015

[sick sentinel]

nothing happens

[lusty tiger]

All the old men adamant about this no country for old men

[lusty grotto]

bruh the narration tell you exactly what was going to happen

[sick sentinel]

im expecting the sherriff to come and sherriff dies to man and then the guy fucks off with his money

thats what i was waiting for entire movie

and was let down

[lusty grotto]

its a reflection of real life

the non-hollywood ending

thats just what happens (in real life)

randomness

[sick sentinel]

id have to watch again

[lusty grotto]

and murders being unsolved for the most part

[dusky canopy]

8 mile

A real life story

[waxen frigate]

You can’t tell me a movie with shit like this during its production could be anything but amazing

[lusty tiger]

Mom spaghet I sweat

These people were wild!

[daring marlin]

Javier Bardem is a phenomenal actor

Love that guy

[waxen frigate]

He’s very good

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-javier-bardem-no-country-for-old-men-coin-flip-call-it-gif-22017620

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/university-oral-exams-school-college-gif-12322131

[lusty tiger]

No “be cool” or “get shorty” enjoyers?

[lusty grotto]

wait

you havent watched American Beauty but you've watched get shorty?

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

[daring marlin]

RIGHT NIM???????

Next he'll say he's never watched the big lebowski

[lusty tiger]

I don’t remember it if I did watch

I was the 3rd son so my dad could only remember so many good movies each of me and my brothers got to see

[lusty grotto]

hmm

everyone at least remembers the plastic bag video recording

or at least that was the one thing that got constantly referenced

[lusty tiger]

Or like we’d watch them all together but I was 3 or 4

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dude-abide-the-big-lebowski-stir-gif-3523187

[lusty tiger]

@waxen frigate wanna see a chicken breast w honey mustard from April 17 2022

[daring marlin]

you a nasty bitch

[waxen frigate]

Yes

[lusty tiger]

It isn’t that bad with some protein powder

It pretty much taste the same

[waxen frigate]

Waiting

[lusty tiger]

But the first time drinking it you just have to get over the thought of how gross it is

[daring marlin]

Well you didn't show the protein powder!

[lusty tiger]

It’s a chicken from another timeline

[daring marlin]

also whey with water

disgusting

[lusty tiger]

It goes in after

No

Not whey

I use plant protein

Powder

[daring marlin]

lactose?

[lusty tiger]

Ummmm

It’s like pea I think

Idr

[daring marlin]

or just prefer it

I'm asking if you have lactose intolerance

[lusty tiger]

No

Buying milk is annoying

[daring marlin]

then why the fuck