protection

[lusty grotto]

its not a huge issue

[warm plinth]

I'll never stop reading OCE as oceanic

[lusty grotto]

yeah lol

it happens

[daring marlin]

Nish your chicken looks like you hit it with dawn before cooking

[waxen frigate]

I’ll hit you

[daring marlin]

[warm plinth]

Nish is the kind of person who eats medium rare chicken tbh

[waxen frigate]

???

[warm plinth]

👀

[daring marlin]

I'm losing it LMAO

[waxen frigate]

Gordon Ramsay literally follows me on Twitter

[lusty tiger]

Nish the type to drink honey mustard w his chicken

[warm plinth]

You definitely found that pizza in a school cafeteria

[lusty tiger]

That’s some lil Caesar

[warm plinth]

Hey don't knock Little Caesar's

[lusty tiger]

I mean

[lusty tiger]

Does it look better than that

[warm plinth]

Probably unironically the best pizza chain out there right now

[crude notch]

that's infinitely worse than little caesar's

[warm plinth]

The rest are shit these days

[lusty tiger]

What if that slice of pizza is low key the best tasting thing ever

[warm plinth]

Pizza Hut is flavorless, Domino's is 98% grease and 2% pizza

[lusty tiger]

What if it’s one of those fake cakes

[warm plinth]

Dude those things are wild

[daring marlin]

Makes it delicious

[waxen frigate]

I made this

[lusty tiger]

Seek help brother

[warm plinth]

Hey those are my nachos tbh

Except I do like a layer of chips, then some cheese, then another layer of chips, then more cheese

[waxen frigate]

Culinary god

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-jotaro-jjba-jojo-yare-gif-12243323

[sick sentinel]

we're there dude

[lusty tiger]

Bruhh

Nish listening to 2 different breakcore mixes at once coming up w these shitpost ideas

[lusty tiger]

This looks like when you get out of your room by the time the suns going down and you need to eat something

[lusty tiger]

Devil man crybaby vibes

[cinder nova]

Behold.

[lusty tiger]

2 plates

What are u

Not lonely

[cinder nova]

Yes.

Plating is a little sloppy, but eh.

[waxen frigate]

One of my favorite foods

[lusty tiger]

Ur fucking blocked

[waxen frigate]

Says the one insulting my mother’s cooking

[lusty tiger]

Dam I thought my mom was bad at cooking

[lusty tiger]

Based

[waxen frigate]

Looking for who asked

[cinder nova]

What is this mald?

[sick sentinel]

he is 200% mad

[chilly brook]

This is why you do your own cooking

[waxen frigate]

Looks burnt and there’s blood on it

[chilly brook]

Not blood smh

[cinder nova]

That's not blood.

[crude notch]

wtf

[cinder nova]

It's also not burnt, that's a rub.

Griff

Temp and time?

[waxen frigate]

Completely inconsistent color, probably a spoiled cut of meat

[crude notch]

Hey S

[toxic pewter]

ngl that photo makes me want to turn vegan

[chilly brook]

Just cooked thickest portion to 135 don’t remember how long

[crude notch]

i'm a spoiled cut of me

at

[cinder nova]

Was it in a smoker or foil-wrapped on a grill?

[waxen frigate]

Vegetables look plasticy

[chilly brook]

Grilled, indirect heat

[crude notch]

D fofm

S didn't say hi back

[cinder nova]

Yo

[crude notch]

too late now mfer

[cinder nova]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lusty tiger]

Smoked meats are dawae

[chilly brook]

Got da direct/indirect heat insert

[lusty tiger]

You can still do some light smoking on that

[cinder nova]

One of my buddies made some corn tortilla tacos with a really spicy habanero white cheese, house-made chipotle with charred and roasted peppers so it has a nice smoky flavor, and grilled shrimp.

Diced white onion

[chilly brook]

Did these for about 3ish hours on the indirect

[cinder nova]

Little lime and cilantro.

[chilly brook]

Turned out great

[cinder nova]

Scratch food isn't has hard as people think, honestly.

And it tastes so good.

[chilly brook]

Fr

[lusty tiger]

Some people are too non-meticulous and retarded to cook I’ve learned

[waxen frigate]

Why is there dirt on it

[waxen frigate]

Me

[lusty tiger]

Grow up

[waxen frigate]

[cinder nova]

Char and rub

You ever make burnt ends, Griff?

Smoked burnt ends with a sticky sweet but spicy barbeque sauce

Lord above

[chilly brook]

Not yet

[cinder nova]

Honestly, I'd steer clear, then.

It doesn't have its hooks in you.

The best burnt ends are made with nice fatty pork and it's awful for you.

But holy fuck its so good.

[waxen frigate]

Help my phone is at 4%

[chilly brook]

Lol bro I’d be grilling every night if it wasn’t 105 everyday

[cinder nova]

The only saving grace is that it takes so much prep and time to make them well that doing it with any frequency in a non-commerical setup is basically an ass and a half.

Pivoting...

I had an amazing Italian sandwich on hot-pressed focaccia, pickled artichoke hearts, a tomato basil sauce with chili peppers in it, provolone, spicy imported salami, and some smoked prosciutto...

It's been living in my head for the past 3 days.

[lusty tiger]

Last weekends smoking

[lusty grotto]

let me instruct you guys in the best food on the planet: Plantains:

[chilly brook]

Mmmm

[lusty tiger]

Isn’t that mufongo?

[cinder nova]

OI

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SICK OF?

AOLI

[lusty grotto]

yes its mofongo

[cinder nova]

Fuck aoli.

[lusty grotto]

also this:

[lusty tiger]

Love mofongo

[chilly brook]

I also got a cast iron skillet for the grill

[cinder nova]

It's just a fancy word for mayo and some other shit. I want real sauces again.

[chilly brook]

Gotta start doin some stuff on it

[lusty tiger]

Relax it’s an emulsion sauce

[ionic fern]

Is..is this #fury ?

[lusty grotto]

also this (sweet plantains)

[cinder nova]

There's a place near me that did an amazingly fresh-tasting and tangy jalapeno sauce and it was a breath of fresh air.

[lusty tiger]

U must live in the south or have a Spanish wife or something lol

[lusty grotto]

also this (friend plaintains aka "tostones")

[cinder nova]

Any of you apes been to New Orleans

[toxic pewter]

yea

[cinder nova]

I wanna take a trip there and just gorge.

How's the food?

[waxen frigate]

I’m not an ape I’m a sea cucumber

[toxic pewter]

pretty good, gotta get some poboy

[cinder nova]

I need that in my life.

[toxic pewter]

snowcone

[chilly brook]

I gotta try this bbq place out here in San Antonio

Curry Boys BBQ or something, basically Thai infused bbq

[cinder nova]

I think my favorite grilled meat so far was the jerk pork and jerk chicken in Grand Cayman out in Georgetown. There's a place right on the main road close to some hotels called Pepper's and holy fuck.

They have an amazingly good rub, they hit it with scotch bonnets too so it's got a good kick.

Fuck me, I miss that place.

[chilly brook]

Jerk chicken is fire bro

[lusty grotto]

fuck i need some drunken noodles pad thai now

i hate you griff

[cinder nova]

We #foodhold now

[chilly brook]

But it’s ruined for me, first time I had it was in Jamaica

[sick sentinel]

i cant promise good results but im going to be attempting more 16s and 17s of what im comfortable in

[cinder nova]

Same. Getting it in the actual Carribean fucks you up because anytime you get it mainland it tastes so half-ass.

[sick sentinel]

maybe 18s of fh and lairs, had a bad time first boss last times i tried 16 + tyranical VP

[cinder nova]

Flowers for Algernon'd our tastebuds buddy.

[lusty tiger]

The only time I’ve had it is made by local Jamaican immigrants

[lusty tiger]

Deep

[cinder nova]

Finding that is a gem, then. Give them as much business as you can.

[lusty grotto]

shit that looks really good

[cinder nova]

Wont know what you had till its gone.

[chilly brook]

They were James Beard semi finalists

[sick sentinel]

i have a 17 nelth in my bags but i dont want to run that key lol

[worthy urchin]

Is this the place to ask stupid questions about prot warrior?

[chilly brook]

So I’d asssume the food is fire

[sick sentinel]

thats a 5 keystone level jump on that key

[cinder nova]

Technically.

[worthy urchin]

Great

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

[chilly brook]

No, only questions about high end meats

[worthy urchin]

So does anybody now if you can spellblock the anti-tank of the first boss of Neltharion's Lair?

[lusty grotto]

being a carnivore is so good

[chilly brook]

That’s a joke please don’t take that seriously

[lusty grotto]

spell reflect it (thought he was talking about 2nd boss's sunder)

[worthy urchin]

The shards?

[chilly brook]

Check the pins, there’s a reflect sheet in it

Super helpful

[worthy urchin]

Got it

[lusty grotto]

Oh 1st boss

[worthy urchin]

Thank you very much

[lusty grotto]

just dodge it

sidestep to the side, thats it

[worthy urchin]

Doesn't the boss follow you with the cast?

[lusty grotto]

no

[worthy urchin]

Holy shit i am stupid then

[lusty grotto]

youll take some damage if it overlaps with glass floor

or w/e its called

but its minimal

[worthy urchin]

Thank you my friend

[lusty grotto]

[cinder nova]

Back to meats

[lusty grotto]

lets not do fish, i fucking hate seafood

birds and terrestial meat 👌

[cinder nova]

Hot take: a cattleman's cut and t-bone > filet mignon

[lusty tiger]

My dads grill setup^

[cinder nova]

I like my meats thick and I like to chew it. Something in my caveman brain turns on extra high when I got that.

Now, don't get me wrong - I like umptious tender meats.

But if someone put a gun to my head and made me pick

[lusty grotto]

im a medium rare enjoyer

[cinder nova]

Cattleman and T-bone every day

[chilly brook]

Hey man, ain’t nothin wrong with a good mahi-mahi taco

[cinder nova]

New york is too soft for me

[lusty tiger]

picanha is the perfect middle

[cinder nova]

Dry rub mahi mahi cranks

Holy fuck a well-salted spicy mahi mahi dry rub fucks hard

[lusty grotto]

i cant eat seafood, i just cant stand the taste of anything that comes out from the sea

[chilly brook]

I wanna get a rotisserie attachment

[lusty grotto]

its a weird take but its real

[lusty tiger]

They’re pretty dope

[chilly brook]

Well good news, mahi-mahi doesn’t taste like fish

[lusty tiger]

I mean…

[cinder nova]

SPEAKING OF SALT

MOTHERFUCKERS AINT SALTING SHIT ENOUGH THESE DAYS

Like, I get you can easily oversalt a dish, but salt is what makes your spices and herbs actually pop and gives your meat the crust and flavor you enjoy.

[lusty grotto]

ive been burned too many times

[lusty tiger]

The mouth feel is the same

[cinder nova]

I see some dumb bastards just use spices and no salt

Like ???

Bro

Season your meat you fucking ape

[lusty grotto]

this is true

[chilly brook]

“Salt is bad for you”

[crude notch]

man stfu

[lusty tiger]

Dry brining is a particular process

[cinder nova]

I'm here to enjoy

[lusty tiger]

That u kinda need if u want it to taste good

And meaty

[crude notch]

y'all acting like you know how to cook

[cinder nova]

Brining is actually good practice, especially on chicken

[lusty grotto]

lol

[lusty tiger]

Enjoy your eu communist rations

[cinder nova]

I always brine chicken if I can't marinate for long, it just really makes it so much better.

World difference.

[lusty tiger]

That’s a wet brine

[cinder nova]

I've never done dry brining

The fuck is it

[lusty tiger]

But dry brining does the same shit without getting your meat all wet ^^

Salt and sit

That’s all

U have

[cinder nova]

Just layer in salt?

What do you do with excess

[crude notch]

well it's wet bringing without the wet.

[cinder nova]

Just scrape it off?

[crude notch]

dipshit

[lusty tiger]

No scrape

[crude notch]

Where's Jakey

Straighten out these mfers

[cinder nova]

Do you just salt it like a winter road or what?

[crude notch]

tell them to go to #off-topic

[ionic fern]

Stop with the random swearing

Or go full mute.

🙂

[chilly brook]

Hot take, not enough people pull chicken off the heat early enough

[lusty tiger]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

not a hot take, it happens way too much Griff

[cinder nova]

I feel like you could oversalt a dish doing that. Do you dry brine any kind of meat, or just red meat?

[chilly brook]

Pull chicken off at like 150-155 and your chicken is golden

[cinder nova]

I can't imagine doing that to a chicken

[lusty tiger]

Usually just big pieces of red meat

[chilly brook]

Let it rest for like 5-8 minutes

[cinder nova]

That makes more sense

I can see that

[crude notch]

smh

[cinder nova]

How long do you let it sit?

[crude notch]

cares more about the swearing than the offtopic

[ionic fern]

Keep it up Jordan. You're really close.

[cinder nova]

I mean, nobody here talking or asking questons. The one guy that popped in got his info and bounced.

ezpz

[lusty tiger]

1-24hrs.
The salt pulls the liquid out of the meat, absorbs it, then redistributes the salty liquid amongst your cut

[chilly brook]

Prot has always done this for as long as I’ve been in Skyhold lol; we talk about other stuff and then drop it when people have real questions

[cinder nova]

🤔 Does that help with shrinking during cooking?

It's why Skyhold is king pp discord

[plush tendon]

guys, can you stop talking about meat... im still at work and its making me hungry 😦

[lusty grotto]

[lusty tiger]

Never thought about it tbh

[crude notch]

I can't decide then

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-coffin-burial-gif-12855021

[crude notch]

Poor Jakey

[cinder nova]

But you wouldn't dry brine something like a mid-sized steak, just season it well?

[lusty tiger]

U would

[ionic fern]

Stop acting like a child.

[lusty tiger]

You can just add pepper and garlic powder along

[ionic fern]

This is your final warning.

[lusty tiger]

Ok no more button pushing lol

[lusty grotto]

salt brine doesnt help with shrinking

shrinking will happen regardless

[cinder nova]

I'm actually curious - all the pictures of this I see look like just properly salt seasoning your meats.

But you also just let it rest first?

[lusty tiger]

Yes

[chilly brook]

https://youtu.be/yX79HU-zZvc

[cinder nova]

Oh that's... yeah, I been doing that just not the resting part. Figure I'll try that out.

[daring marlin]

damn I love jerry more

[lusty tiger]

❤️

[lusty grotto]

we dry brine for 24 hrs most of the time

and it applies to mostly salt and/or seasoning with salt

[lusty tiger]

Ye 24hr is good but if u just have like 1 steak 1hr is also fine

[lusty grotto]

its just better setting over night though

[lusty tiger]

Always

[lusty grotto]

also good with homemade burgers

[lusty tiger]

The full dry brine process finishing is chefs kiss

[lusty grotto]

especially with tiny onions

like ground beef etc

[lusty tiger]

Ur making me HUNGRY

[cinder nova]

I might go the extra mile for a nice expensive cut, but I grew up cheap so we'd get the meat that's just starting to oxidize from the 30% off part of the supermarket. It's perfectly safe to eat and the flavor is fine, just starting to brown a touch.

Throw that shit right in the freezer until you need it.

So I might try and do a couple hours ahead of time if I know I got space and nothing else.

[lusty tiger]

That Walmart clearance meat

[cinder nova]

You can get shockingly good meat for dirt cheap sometimes.

[chilly brook]

I’m trying to get into hunting

Get my own meat

[cinder nova]

People just have an overly heavy fixation on cosmetic appearance of some raw ingredients

NEVER TRY BEAR MEAT

[lusty tiger]

Thanks joe Rogan

[toxic pewter]

just realized last stand is reset after starting keystone, can get some uptime on 4pc tier pressing it right before keystone put in

[cinder nova]

It's awful. Even if you low and slow it for basically an eternity it's shit

[lusty grotto]

deer meat 👍

i cant stand preparing deer though

[cinder nova]

Venison is actually fire when prepped right

Deer sausage in Alaska was great in the winter

[chilly brook]

Yeah it’s 3m isn’t it?

[cinder nova]

Does it not clear the buff?

[lusty grotto]

no

[toxic pewter]

i just checked the buff is there

[cinder nova]

Interadasting

[lusty grotto]

i thought everyone knew this

[toxic pewter]

i didnt realize till now lol

[lusty grotto]

ive been doing it since i got 2pc

[chilly brook]

Anything over 2m is reset on key start

[cinder nova]

Nah I've been pushing 23s like a spud missing like free damage apparently

[daring marlin]

Brother Nim keeping the secrets to himself

SMH MY DAMN HELMET

[cinder nova]

rip in pepperoni

[lusty grotto]

i really thought it was common knowledge

[daring marlin]

what a guy

I can't believe it

[cinder nova]

Nim when have you seen anyone in SkyHODL stack INT

[toxic pewter]

i knew the 2 min reset but for some reason never thought to last stand this entire season lmao

[daring marlin]

Still hyped for the costco going in near me

[cinder nova]

Costco has good meats.

[jagged gust]

I'm a pretty slow guy, I can barely remember what the # minute cutoff is for resets

[chilly brook]

Costco is great

[toxic pewter]

would be cool if avatar reset

lol

[chilly brook]

You can get like $180 of meat for $110

You just gotta be prepared to butcher it a bit yourself

[lusty grotto]

remember you can rally also

and it'll reset

[cinder nova]

Nothing wrong with trimming and portioning yourself

[chilly brook]

Some would say it’s actually a benefit

[toxic pewter]

oh ya good reminder

[daring marlin]

Hoping they have similar ground beef to Sam's

[chilly brook]

I could check my freezer

[lusty grotto]

costco usually is slightly better

[cinder nova]

I'd tend to agree, but I'll be honest like 95% of American kitchens do not have knives sharp enough to do it.

[toxic pewter]

is it just those 2 that we can do (I do potion also) @lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[daring marlin]

$4.44 a pound for the individual 1lb 3packs are a hack

[toxic pewter]

ok

[lusty grotto]

remember Sam's = Walmart

[toxic pewter]

we can challenging shout also.. lol jk

[jagged gust]

Where would rally be a good place? FH? not too many places where I can gather my mobs in under 10 seconds

[daring marlin]

I'm aware SON

[cinder nova]

FH, BH

[crude notch]

heckin heck

[cinder nova]

I mean, it's 5s of extra HP

[lusty grotto]

i just do it everywhere lol

[jagged gust]

yeah fair enough

[lusty grotto]

pot + LS + Rally

[cinder nova]

yeah not a lot of mental gymnastics to make it work

Just extra stuff

[toxic pewter]

i wonder if disrupting shout resets since it is a 1.5 min cd from a 2min cd

[jagged gust]

I guess you can macro that all together too

[lusty tiger]

I miss rally+LS+fleshcraft pre key

[lusty grotto]

i think you can Spell Block too?

[chilly brook]

I just miss banner

[lusty tiger]

Same

[toxic pewter]

gonna test spell block rq

[lusty grotto]

but the only dungeon where you might want to do it is nelth

[jagged gust]

damn spell block would be lit

[chilly brook]

Banner was pog

[jagged gust]

I would appreciate the testing

[daring marlin]

Look at this mf

[lusty grotto]

well nvm uldaman might benefit from using it too

[daring marlin]

Like 5 inch wingspan

[lusty grotto]

right off the bat i mean

[toxic pewter]

i am about to test spell block and disrupting shout lol just for kicks to see how it works going from 2min cd to 1.5 min cd

[dusky canopy]

This is exactly why I hang around here too great people to chat with in general and when it comes to wow I also play warrior lol it works out great for me

[lusty grotto]

spell block is 1.5 no? so im thinking you cant

[toxic pewter]

spell block does not reset cd, disrupting shout is reset though even though its a 1.5 min cd from the 2 min challenging shout cd

[lusty tiger]

Y he so furry

[lusty grotto]

yeah the cutoff is 2m

so rallying + LS + pot

[lusty tiger]

Good macro

[jagged gust]

oh thats sad, spell block into big ulda pull sure would be neat

[toxic pewter]

bears incarn so strong

at start

its acutally wild

[jagged gust]

I started playing a bear last week, I probably say "Bears are so OP it's not even funny" at least twice an hour in discord

[toxic pewter]

what actually is so nice about bear is you can literally get hit from behind and shit all day lmao

[daring marlin]

bdk owns

parry owns

[jagged gust]

literally just run through packs booty swiping for days

[toxic pewter]

yeah bears just go where they want

they dgaf

[dusky canopy]

booty swiping

[toxic pewter]

meanwhile 1 mob behind me for 1 split second its bad time

[dusky canopy]

[toxic pewter]

relly considering spending likr 5 mil gold to get full tier 3 set

so i can be first vulpera in world with it

[dusky canopy]

Apb if you wait a while

People will have that market flooded

[toxic pewter]

i know i know

[dusky canopy]

And it will be cheaper

Don’t get suckered

[toxic pewter]

i want now

[crude notch]

pls don't get hit from behind as bear

[toxic pewter]

Lol

[jagged gust]

I'm already like 5/9 on my hunter from TBC grinding the raid, I feel like it would be a fiscally sound choice to invest at this point

[waxen frigate]

[toxic pewter]

well yeah I am not advocating ever getting hit from behind with any tank

[jagged gust]

The bears I know love taking hits from behind

[dusky canopy]

I sit while I’m tanking

[toxic pewter]

lol

[chilly brook]

it's not like bear can parry

so who cares

[toxic pewter]

the 20% dodge i guess

[daring marlin]

you nasty boy

[proper roost]

maaan

[crude notch]

the dodge?

[proper roost]

i want to get my portals this week but guilford has abandoned me

[chilly brook]

it's a joke

[crude notch]

maybe get new material?

[chilly brook]

because for some reason npc bears can parry

but player bears can't

[chilly brook]

smh....

[crude notch]

that's horrid logic

[dusky canopy]

Btw, @ionic fern Hope you’re having a great day guy

[chilly brook]

Mwahi is a beautiful bald man

[dusky canopy]

Hell yeah he is

Bros gotta get on that skyhold podcast vibe with nome and jakey

They did that one with the mercillion guys

I liked it a lot

[chilly brook]

one day when I start losing my hear I'll just be a man and go bald

until then long hair don't care

although I'm not even 30 and I have gray hairs popping up

[dusky canopy]

Bro same 27 and I got them all over

Lmao

[lusty grotto]

lol

fucking babies

ive been growin greys since 18

😄

[lusty tiger]

Everyone of us are a few years out from looking like Larry david I guess

[crude notch]

whoa

[dusky canopy]

My wife thinks it’s so hilarious to pluck them when I’m zoning into the tv or something

[chilly brook]

oof

[dusky canopy]

I’m like BRO WTF are you doing

And then we laugh

[lusty tiger]

Grey hairs mixed in are tasteful

[lusty grotto]

just tell her youll never get to be her silver fox

if she keeps that up

[lusty tiger]

Lmfao

[lusty grotto]

😎

[dusky canopy]

Lmao tru tru

[jagged gust]

I remember years ago Just For Men used to advertise this "Salt n Pepper" hair dye with this funky applicator that would make you look like you were going grey sporadically lmao

[lusty tiger]

Yea doesn’t work for me I’m blonde

[jagged gust]

I can just imagine some exec going through a mid life crisis thinking this will be the answer for all his problems

[daring marlin]

Not true

I'm WORKING

[chilly brook]

imagine working

[proper roost]

(seen on D4)

[dusky canopy]

Work life man

[daring marlin]

I was on lunch

[dusky canopy]

🤮

[lusty tiger]

D4 kinda committed seppuku

[proper roost]

where was the lunch key

hmph!

[daring marlin]

Was gonna make my dude

[crude notch]

poor kanga

being left on read

[chilly brook]

I'd rather work than D4 tbh

[proper roost]

at least nim never abandoned me

i think

mostly

sometimes

[chilly brook]

your aug is here boo

[lusty tiger]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/top-10-wow-wants/1635892

This is why they don’t have time to make more dungeons I guess

[crude notch]

huh?

[lusty tiger]

Lemme scoop previous one

[crude notch]

i saw the previous one

[lusty tiger]

The one about m+ balance ruining dungeons

And not making enough

[crude notch]

yes

[lusty tiger]

Idk wowhead forums is just a goldmine

[lusty grotto]

if only blizzard devs played their own game

[lusty tiger]

I feel like the op should just play ff14

[chilly brook]

you know what devs do play their own games?

[lusty grotto]

ffxiv doesnt have different body types

so no

[chilly brook]

Larian

[lusty tiger]

Just unisex body type in ff14?

[crude notch]

Is everyone just an apb alt today?

[lusty grotto]

i mean it has what wow has

[lusty tiger]

You can mod it though right?

I’ve never played

[lusty grotto]

a male shape and a female shape, you cant add variations to the body shit

that's still against the EULA

just never enforced

[lusty tiger]

Ah

[chilly brook]

I mean you can adjust chest size

[lusty tiger]

😄

[chilly brook]

but ye if you want more body customization that's like ESO stuff

[lusty grotto]

just play a game that's not from 2014

🙂

[chilly brook]

ESO is from 2014

[lusty grotto]

err 2004

[lusty tiger]

D:

[chilly brook]

so is BDO

[lusty grotto]

you know what i meant

[crude notch]

yeah imagine having desires for the game

Sheesh

couldn't be this chat

nope

[lusty grotto]

[chilly brook]

there's a lot of things I'd like to see come to wow

[lusty grotto]

it would be great if they could implement it

[chilly brook]

I just don't think they'll ever do it

[lusty grotto]

its not that they will do it or not, its an older engine

[chilly brook]

not without a "WoW 2" anyways

[crude notch]

ok so then what's the issue?

[jagged gust]

A definite lack of jiggle physics.

[chilly brook]

those actually exist in wow

[jagged gust]

Clearly I don't zoom in often enough

[lusty grotto]

what time does TGP start?

[chilly brook]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/908296-Breast-Physics-in-WoW

[jagged gust]

I'm used to the old /setcamera distance=max so the raid boss looks the size of a gnome

[lusty grotto]

anyone know?

[jagged gust]

I knew I shoulda race changed to a space cow

[lusty grotto]

ok tomorrow at 10 AM pacific

thats uhhh 1pm eastern?

[chilly brook]

sorry I did indeed not know

yes

or noon central

[lusty grotto]

nice nice

[daring marlin]

What is happening in chat

This seems like a fever dream

[chilly brook]

not work

[daring marlin]

go touch grass you weirdos

[chilly brook]

too hot

[left basalt]

If someone had 441 Mark and 441 Anvil, would you still roll on 441 Beacon if its only a .6% DPS upgrade, or pass to someoen else its a bigger game changer for?

[chilly brook]

Not touching grass in this weather

[daring marlin]

Like so

your turn

[crude notch]

nice veiny hands

oh bb

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-salem-blackcat-grass-cute-gif-9162167

[chilly brook]

I don’t go outside until night

To tire out this goober

[jagged gust]

nighttime sure does look bright these days

[lusty grotto]

what a nice doge

[chilly brook]

She’s a great doge

[sick sentinel]

free hold cannons hurt

[lusty grotto]

haha

how old is she griff

[chilly brook]

10 months

[lusty grotto]

nice!

pupper

[chilly brook]

Actually might be 11 now

[jagged gust]

Just make sure you don't miss her birthday

[lusty grotto]

true true

[daring marlin]

Should see them when I have a pump

[chilly brook]

She’s great, but she always hits a huge energy spurt right before bed time

[daring marlin]

[chilly brook]

Hence me adjusting to tiring her out on a long walk after the sun goes down

[lusty grotto]

can probably take advantage of that

just tire yourself out ez sleep after

[jagged gust]

Here's a man who never skips hand day at the gym

[chilly brook]

Ye

[uneven mason]

My 6m gsd pup thinks she's a cat, wanted to play at 3am

[chilly brook]

She tires out before I do

Prolly cuz all the fur

[lusty grotto]

also probably best youre walking her at night time, hot concrete fucking sucks

if youre in a concrete jungle

or suburbia

[jagged gust]

I remember thinking I could take my jack russel dachshund jogging with me in the evenings when I first got him, sucker would make me carry him after 5 minutes

[chilly brook]

Huge consideration tbh

[lusty grotto]

lol

[chilly brook]

She goes outside anytime she wants in the backyard but it’s all grass/dirt

Def don’t wanna walk her on pavement/concrete mid day

[lusty grotto]

yeah its weird

my last dog didnt give a fuck about hot concrete

but youre still kinda worrying about it

so idk if its just human logic or if it actually does them harm

i just tried to avoid it

[chilly brook]

they'll follow you but it's really not good for them

[jagged gust]

I had a dog who would try to play fetch with tiny boulders, sometimes they don't know whats not so good for them

[left basalt]

you can buy paw wax for summertime walks, that helps protect the paws on hot surfaces

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[chilly brook]

their pads can actually blister and burn

[left basalt]

we had a husky that was a princess about his paws

[chilly brook]

and for reference on 90 degree days pavement can get up to 150

[lusty tiger]

florida man?

[chilly brook]

I'm in Texas

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt help that weather has been fucking unreal this summer either

[lusty tiger]

my high school's turf field used to melt the bottom of my cleats

[chilly brook]

had that happen once back in CA

[dusky canopy]

Bro griff

[chilly brook]

feet felt like they were on fire

[dusky canopy]

Give your grandparents there comforter back

[lusty tiger]

because they basically were

[chilly brook]

lol it's not my bed/room

[dusky canopy]

LOL

[chilly brook]

she just decided to hop on my parents bed at some point

[dusky canopy]

Good doge

[daring marlin]

Storm clouds rolling in

sick

[lusty tiger]

any1 lifting today?

[daring marlin]

rest day

[chilly brook]

no 😦

[daring marlin]

so just cardio/foam roller work

dead hangs

[chilly brook]

I need to suck it up and join a gym here

only problem is the only non giga expensive one here in town is Planet Fitness

[daring marlin]

nothing wrong with planet fitness if that's all you really got

people poopoo the smith machine but if they do they're actually room temp iq

[lusty tiger]

The only down side I can imagine about planet fitness is that there’s too many people there when you go

[daring marlin]

griff strikes me as the guy to go at 1am

So he'd avoid the crowd

[chilly brook]

kinda not wrong

I prefer gym giga late or early

[lusty tiger]

Smith machine is great

[sick sentinel]

early is good

[lusty tiger]

Why would somebody dislike it

[daring marlin]

because people are really dunb

[lusty tiger]

I can barely get up for work so idk how I could lift before

[daring marlin]

easier than you think

[lusty tiger]

I need to eat before I lift

[daring marlin]

get a coffee, have a couple servings of honey or maple syrup

ez

[lusty tiger]

Hmm

Mayb I’ll try

But I go to sleep at like 12:30

Honey and some mixed nuts or something

Or rice cake I guess

[daring marlin]

Oatmeal is one I can have before lifting if I eat before

no bloating and gr8 energy

[lusty tiger]

How can you lift without food

My arms feel like toothpicks if I haven’t eaten

[daring marlin]

Accept the fact you can't lift as heavy in the morning, frankly. lol

[lusty tiger]

[hardy snow]

If I parry melee attack from Zskarn, does he still applies stack of dot?

[lusty tiger]

Any DKs in the chat?

[lusty tiger]

This is gonna make it a lot harder to reach my goal of 200lbs tho

[daring marlin]

Losing or gaining? lol

Losing just be in a deficit

ez

[lusty tiger]

Gaining to become 200lbs

[lusty tiger]

It’s says “cannot miss” on wowhead

[daring marlin]

gaining also ez just be in a slight surplus!

2-300 cals

[lusty tiger]

Yea eating is hard

Barely any water weight im at 186 rn

So actually going ham + decked on creatine and water weight 200 should be doable

[hardy snow]

it refers to dot's dmg itself, not application

[lusty tiger]

Hmm

It just says burns his current target

It might be independent from his melee swings?

[hardy snow]

its applied by melee attacks

[lusty tiger]

I literally cant find anything on it

[warm plinth]

Parries generally prevent dot application that are applied by the melee swings. Should be fairly easy to verify in a log.

[lusty tiger]

If you’ve done the fight you’re gonna have to check a log and mark down the time you parry/dodge/are missed while tanking

[lusty tiger]

For bleeds yea

I’ve never seen it with magic dots tho

[hardy snow]

yea, ive found in logs

it was still applied

[rustic tinsel]

Yeah it appears independent from my Zskarn log

Applies ~2 seconds assuming he’s not spell queuing

[lusty grotto]

thats odd

[warm plinth]

You're odd

[lusty grotto]

because if that were the case swing timer slows wouldnt work

[warm plinth]

He's talking about Zskarn, not Experiments

[lusty grotto]

and they do

[rustic tinsel]

I don’t think so, it’s still related to his melees, but the debuff likely can’t miss

[lusty grotto]

yes

zskarn

swing timer slows are also used

[lusty tiger]

It cannot says wowhead

[warm plinth]

Wait, why would it not work then

The dot is still applied by melee hits

So that's why slows work

But avoiding the hit is still a melee "cast", so the dot still applies in this case.

[lusty grotto]

he said its applied every ~2 seconds, that implies its not being done by melee swing

[rustic tinsel]

I mean im being meleed every 2 seconds

[warm plinth]

Well the boss's default melee speed is probably 2 seconds; that's a fairly common swing timer

[rustic tinsel]

Sorry for the confusion

We didn’t use a curse bc warlocks are braindead

[lusty grotto]

dk? rogue?

they all stack

[rustic tinsel]

Had a bdk

[lusty tiger]

Maybe they just have something like:
Period = swing timer

[rustic tinsel]

Regardless, application is definitely corresponding with when the melee happens, but the debuff isn’t capable of parried

And by extension I imagine can’t be dodged

But I didn’t play with a brm

[lusty grotto]

another dogshit anti warrior ability

[rustic tinsel]

So true bestie

Bad boss for war

[lusty tiger]

On wowhead searing claws is labeled as “cannot miss”

[lusty grotto]

well yea

that's basically the case

but its highly uncommon to have abilities like that, at least when applied by melee swings

either way

swing slows are the go-to

[lusty tiger]

Frick blizzard

[lusty grotto]

whoever designed zskarn is clearly out of touch, and doing way too much classic or something

[lusty tiger]

Yeah tbh

[toxic pewter]

Can’t play for a week

[lusty grotto]

and i guess experiments to a certain point

[toxic pewter]

Whenever designed spell block needs a promotion

[daring marlin]

Can't let DKs trivialize it with DRW lads

[lusty tiger]

Tbh spell block should just be part of spell reflect

[toxic pewter]

Spell block is one of the worst programmed abilities in the entire game

[mighty valley]

eh, would be a nerf in situations where we actually take it

[lusty tiger]

Spell block feels more like a bandaid

To how the content was designed

[lusty tiger]

It would be a poggers in m+ tho

[lusty grotto]

its just not consistent

but that's blizzard's fault

spell block itself is fine

the encounters not taking into account spell block is the problem

as in flat out ignoring it

[lusty tiger]

Next tierset:
2pc- gives HR
4pc- spellblock gained on spell reflect and spell reflect gained on spell block

[daring marlin]

tier sets should just give giga dam

[lusty tiger]

Bis is ravager added to AM

[south zealot]

4pc- spellblock gained on spell reflect and spell reflect gained on spell block

this will literally never be added lol

[lusty tiger]

A man can dream buddy ok

[proper roost]

do that set bonus but the entire raid tier only does physical blockable damage

😏

[south zealot]

i too dream of reflecting EVERY SPELL for 30 seconds

but thats clearly never gonna happen

[lusty tiger]

Well you could make it so the buff is only as long as the normal ability

[south zealot]

then thats dogshit

[lusty tiger]

Or 4 seconds like IO

[south zealot]

super bad 4 set

[lusty tiger]

What

[hardy snow]

just change our mastery that it makes % of blocked dmg goes to IP

[south zealot]

i sincerely hope none of you ever work at blizzard

[lusty grotto]

there clearly is a disconnect between the class leads and the encounter design team

[lusty tiger]

1000%

[lusty grotto]

seems to me

its like the encounter design team do the same old throw darts at the wall shit and whatever it lands on is put in

which is weird because you'd figure shit like Temporal Breath respects anti magic shell and shit and even SR's DR

maybe the warrior lead designer hasnt really communicated spell block well enough to the raid devs

🤷‍♂️

[lusty tiger]

Or block for that matter

[daring marlin]

Nim when I was looking at Sense's first log of Deios it looked like spellblock was working

[lusty grotto]

for the initial hit?

i know it works for the add casts

[warm plinth]

Yeah spell block works on the initial hit of the breath, but not the dot

But the dot is still scary af

[lusty grotto]

well

im sure they wont want to add blockable dots

sark being an exception

to be fair, thinking objectively

it would be a little insane

[delicate coral]

anyone offer Coaching

for raiding

[lusty tiger]

Infinite free log reviews

[warm plinth]

idk kinda silly because paladin can still "block" dots

It works a bit differently than before but they can still reduce dots

[toxic pewter]

Yeah mastery when standing in consecration

[warm plinth]

yerp

[mighty valley]

please make a tier where spell reflect is just fuckin bonkers

feels like every tank in theory has strengths and weaknesses, except ours never really work

so we're only top tier when we're doing busted damage

[rustic tinsel]

I’m always caught off guard whenever I get back on prot after playing VDH when it comes to bleeds and magic dots

Warrior just gets piped on some shit and you just have to pray your healers keep you up

(Looking at you experiments)

[daring marlin]

Nim randomly bopped me in Uldaman

mf thought I was a warrior

smh my head

[warm plinth]

[south zealot]

i got a 3 stack on chomp today

[warm plinth]

I got killed by my healer once because I planned on bubbling and she LoHed me

[modern gazelle]

Paladin brain size

[south zealot]

its ok i got cauterized

[modern gazelle]

@lusty grotto this is who you associate with

[daring marlin]

I do NOT run with hpals due to that

on my pally

[warm plinth]

I wish I'd recorded the 12 Underrot I did before work (just trying to do quick keys for weekly quest)

[daring marlin]

fuck that

[warm plinth]

It was a fucking train wreck.

[south zealot]

need to do 20s for fast keys tbh

[warm plinth]

I had to solo 2/3 of the last boss

[rustic tinsel]

Those keys below weekly key levels are

Truly demonic

[warm plinth]

And we had a full wipe on 3rd boss

Told them how to do 3rd boss, including not standing behind me with upheaval

[lusty grotto]

?

[warm plinth]

DH proceeds to keep standing behind me

[modern gazelle]

The big brain paladins

[sick sentinel]

people still dont kill rokmora adds

[daring marlin]

Joke's on you

Bring drums

who cares

[rustic tinsel]

I miss 25% haste drums

[daring marlin]

likewise

[rustic tinsel]

Actually one of the dumbest changes they made

[modern gazelle]

I do but didn’t feel like them. More so meant the 370 ilvl

[daring marlin]

I'd say getting rid of scrolls in general was worse

[modern gazelle]

Good luck not dying to everything at that ilvl in mega

[daring marlin]

Super dumb.

[proper roost]

🫣

[rustic tinsel]

I miss 1min pot cd

Light foot

[daring marlin]

Should bring them back and add touch/brand scrolls too

who cares

fuck 'em

raid buffs are lame af

[south zealot]

WE ARE COOKING TODAY

full off meta team

[sick sentinel]

wiping on lair first boss with lust used is such a huge nail in the coffin for that key

[rustic tinsel]

A raid comp being 1/3rd locked in before you even step foot in the raid is my favorite part of raiding

[south zealot]

this is why u lust first pull so that doesnt happen

[rustic tinsel]

(For legal reasons this is a joke)

[south zealot]

3/4 locked in

u have like 2-4 flex spots

[rustic tinsel]

Actually so aids man

[daring marlin]

trash design

[rustic tinsel]

Get rid of raid buffs/debuffs

My guild died on magmorax boys, do I even bother trying to finish this tier

[jagged gust]

Ah the ol' "I'm pretty sure the other guys are gonna kill the adds, I can just focus the boss" strat

[mighty valley]

i think no raid buffs would be better for your average guild of cool dudes

but i'd worry that the meta pug comp would be 13x the mathematically strongest dps please

[daring marlin]

Degens gonna degen

[rustic tinsel]

In a perfect world, blizzard would play their game and tune specs accordingly

[daring marlin]

They always have and always will

[rustic tinsel]

But neither of those things will happen

[mighty valley]

there's always gonna be a biggest numbers spec, perfect balance is a pipe dream

[jagged gust]

cough cough 22 augvokers

[mighty valley]

lmao, well

they fixed that, right

[proper roost]

no blizzard doesn't play their game

that's why his guild died on week 11

[jagged gust]

tbf /gdisband is a valid option if you're hardstuck on a loot pinata

[mighty valley]

"hardstuck on a loot pinata" is my favorite jimmy buffet album

[south zealot]

gigachad comp

[mighty valley]

subcreation robots are VERY mad at you right now

[sick sentinel]

the green on rokmora hurtrs alot

[south zealot]

dont stand in it

[sick sentinel]

ya i know lol, just, it hurts comparitively alot

so it makes it extra important not to stand in it

[daring marlin]

don't stand in it yogi

[daring marlin]

who let bomberman in there

[dusky canopy]

Don’t stand in it

[south zealot]

idkmustve been a bug

[daring marlin]

dude was pumpin'

he have rashok weapon?

[south zealot]

yes but only did like 1.5%

actually 1.0%

[solemn current]

Survival pumps as it is. Helps that virtually everyone still playing survival knows how to play it lol

[daring marlin]

The true fan affix

Same with FDK and a couple other specs

for keys in particular

prot warrior too

[tight dawn]

do we have breakpoints for our haste and crit or should i just stack as much as possible?

[proper roost]

@daring marlin hepl

[lusty grotto]

hello there

[jagged gust]

@lusty grotto

damn

[tight dawn]

ooh ok so its pretty safe to get as much haste as possible

[lusty grotto]

correct

[proper roost]

we died

[warm plinth]

Crit DR is even higher, but you want some mastery and vers as well just to balance it out. Going super hard into just two stats is rarely a good idea.

[proper roost]

the prot warrior doesn't know about spell reflecting focused deluge

i'm really out here right now guys.

[warm plinth]

It'll be okay Kanga

[lusty grotto]

i just ran a VP that had a prot warrior with decent talents and that did effectively well, i was surprised

i know they were from suramar

[warm plinth]

But did he spell reflect chain lightning is the real question

[lusty grotto]

no

sadly

[warm plinth]

[lusty grotto]

i got the 1st one and stood right beside him (a bit further out just in case)

its ok

im not gonna complain about it

[sick sentinel]

PANTS real pants this time

[lusty grotto]

gz yogi

i rarely talk in pugs other than answering questions about route and saying meowdy

[sick sentinel]

leaves, neck, future clok, future ring and possibly super future trinket to 447

[lusty grotto]

the only reason i say anything is if i get fucking blamed for some random shit that i didnt cause (like the dumb ret pulling and then blaming me on pulls on that FH a while ago)

[sick sentinel]

seems like sparks is better pulls from the vault to me than alot of the vaults im opening

[lusty grotto]

it do be like that sometimes

[sick sentinel]

i did this week, and if vault is shit next week gunna do it again

need a ring, need a cloak,

garunteed 447 , and you control stats

[proper roost]

i done it

hlep @daring marlin

the prot warrior never actually learned how to spell reflect focused deluge

Sigh

A tragedy in 2 parts

[sick sentinel]

delug u say, i will have to remmber this

[proper roost]

BRUH

LMAO

that HOI was so bad I didn't even get any io for it

even though I literally

don't have

a single hoi key

[sick sentinel]

i quit keys that are obviously going to crumple early

[proper roost]

it didn't even count as a +2

[sick sentinel]

like, dies to first trash mobs shit

[proper roost]

ok thanks yogi that was not the case

💀

[sick sentinel]

not on that pull, but that shit happens its like..... oh man....

[warm plinth]

54 minutes 👀

[proper roost]

ya so

devoker d/ced right after first boss

was doing ok

[sick sentinel]

DC i don't worry about under 60 seconds

[proper roost]

decided to just keep going cuz u literally can 4 man a 17 anyway

JESUS

YOGI

DIDN'T ASK

anyway

[sick sentinel]

LOL jeez fine

[proper roost]

and then the prot warrior (always prot warriors btw) walks out of the last boss's melee range

twice in a row

and i get autoed

[jagged gust]

Isn't there like a "Devastatingly overtime" limit? I thought it didn't kick in until 20 minutes

[proper roost]

the end

[jagged gust]

oh It's 40% of the timer

[sick sentinel]

my addon shows a MM:SS for each dungeon for +2 +3, its alot simpler

jeez 54 minute key

[south zealot]

why did my spell reflect not show on meters for worm boss

in nl

[jagged gust]

Like a true pug tank, I don't even look at the %, let alone timer

[sick sentinel]

the way i do it is that i remember the pulls, and how many monsters are supposed to be in each pull

[jagged gust]

Details just released an update a few hours ago, maybe something went screwy

[sick sentinel]

whcih do you reflect on the worm cuz i know you cant reflect the tongue

[jagged gust]

In NL, you can be +/- 1-2% depending on how many skitterers you aggro skipping the first hulk, kind of a niche thing though. Also might be a weird rounding concept

[sick sentinel]

is that the green blots near boss?

acid?

[jagged gust]

yes, in terms of what gets reflected

[warm plinth]

It's the toxic retch; the dot he applies to everyone.

Not the pools

[sick sentinel]

i prefer to do all th trash at the last boss room but its mixed reviews, they have cave in and cleave which is bad and its on a dark ground location, makes cave in harder to see

[warm plinth]

The pools are also spawned by the toxic retch but it's the dot that is reflected.

[jagged gust]

oh forreal? I've been misunderstanding that then

[sick sentinel]

pulling the 3 group to the right after first pull of 2 and a scorp is bad, the 3 humans, all 3 cast cave in

normally wipes

[warm plinth]

You shouldn't pull anything after 3rd boss unless it's required. You can pull the 1st 3 mobs together, and then you pull the two scorp pulls in boss room; that's it.

Anything else and you're just adding needless difficulty

[sick sentinel]

i definitely don't want any more of the dudes after boss 1 and before boss 2 than i already have on my route

[warm plinth]

Kinda scared to ask but what is your route

[sick sentinel]

its hold W is what it is lol

..... wtf..... this aint quite right

3 cave in bros at final is perfect 100% route trash if i do them, but i don't

cuz cave in

yogi lair route

8 is geode pack first and kill it, go to left group and kick whaever needs kick along way

[warm plinth]

Yeah don't do pull 17. That's not necessary

[sick sentinel]

best compromise i have is add 1 gnasher on pull 4 gnashers in pond after boss 2

delete pull 17

[warm plinth]

Only 1 count over instead of 7 in yours, and overall a lot easier.

[jagged gust]

huh, never considered grabbing the cave guy in pull 8