protection

[sick sentinel]

week 1 LFR ghuun was so fucked

[crude notch]

Call it "tis only a flesh wound"

Replace uh wannabe cheat death with that

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-calling-nope-telephone-whos-this-gif-17539920

[sick sentinel]

if it worked as intended and got balanced, then, we could like, i dunno, use it?

[crude notch]

Ain't no one asked.

[plush tendon]

I feel like bitter immunity was supposed to be that... it just doesnt cover everything

[sick sentinel]

well, that talent wouldn't be any good anyways because we never take damage to begin with

[daring marlin]

bitter should be 2 min and remove bleeds too

ggez

[lusty grotto]

like in beta

yea

[crude notch]

I noticed this across multiple classes, but I think there's a handful of class tree things that get painfully tuned for other specs that just fall short for the tank spec because of this and because of tanks being second class citizens

And the easy fix is just add text for if you're in the tank spec.

[uneven mason]

Can we change BV/fbv choice node to just be "ignore pain is 75% more effective against damage over time effects"

[crude notch]

TGP starts on Friday.

[uneven mason]

Bears on parade

[dusky canopy]

good song

;P

[uneven mason]

Raze train

[daring marlin]

BDK gonna be opop in S3.

🔮

[strong forum]

d4 season start on thursday

[daring marlin]

nome knows what's up

I still need to get my lilith statues and finish renown though

[strong forum]

dont need to finish renown

only uncover 100% of map and all statues

[daring marlin]

oh really?

[strong forum]

ye

[daring marlin]

[proper roost]

apb is thd

confirmed

[toxic pewter]

I m very power full individual

[proper roost]

the best part about that tweet is

people are instantly so on edge that they didn't see the entire point is wrong

since artifact power was essentially weekly gated, not daily

so it was still only a weekly activity

[lusty grotto]

thd has been saying that since SL

its a bait he has done on max's streams too

[strong forum]

tbf i kinda miss logging on and being able to gain power

i was never against AP

[dusky canopy]

same

I like ap grind

[strong forum]

same as i was never against tforging

it was just the EXTREMES that were shit

[lusty grotto]

meh at having to log on

[strong forum]

didnt really have to

since BFA AP was pretty well done

[proper roost]

i can't decide if i feel like if proccing tertiaries/socket is better or worse vs titanforging

[strong forum]

well you had both

[proper roost]

as a general system, ignoring the extremes

[lusty grotto]

im glad i have time to do other things

[proper roost]

i never played in a world where both existed, i quit in legion

[warm plinth]

Titanforging was good, fight me

[strong forum]

legion had that too kanga

[proper roost]

did it? i thought tf was just ilvl

[lusty grotto]

titanforging was okay, if you didnt fucking sweat it

[strong forum]

socket/leech random rolls were always existant

[lusty grotto]

like if you were required to farm TF

[strong forum]

well not always always

[lusty grotto]

but thats the extreme

[proper roost]

i fever dream forgot about most of my legion gameplay. idk

[strong forum]

but like in the past 4 xpacs atleast

[lusty grotto]

and people just look at it from extremes

[crude notch]

God we need a new tier already, takes are getting more cooked by the day

[lusty grotto]

lol

[warm plinth]

Don't be mad at titanforging Jordan

[strong forum]

sorry i always had that take jordan

[crude notch]

I'll never be mad at TF.

[daring marlin]

TF was good.

[crude notch]

Any take that says AP was even remotely healthy for the game is just

[dusky canopy]

TF gave you something to always look forward too

i also liked it

[proper roost]

so the issue is

the same thing could be said about very rare loot

[daring marlin]

Johnny WQ got a max TF arcanocrystal? good for him

[proper roost]

so i'm not sure

[dusky canopy]

it also made lower level conent desirable becuase you could get lucky and proc a mythic item level

[proper roost]

anyway if TF just couldn't happen to trinkets and weapons, i feel like i'd be more ok with it

[strong forum]

if you cant control yourself in grinding only whats necessary instead of chasing 1% upgrades for 20hrs a day to get it 1 day before raid release

thats a you issue

[proper roost]

although probably blizzard's metrics are like

[strong forum]

i was always just fine with my AP power

[lusty grotto]

tf should just be tertiaries

[dusky canopy]

the artifact weapon in general

[proper roost]

"people LOVE it when they get a tf weapon and it's worth it to keep those players even if we lose a bunch of players who burn out"

[lusty grotto]

like now

[dusky canopy]

i liked that alot

[strong forum]

never really behind those ultra sweatlords except for like 2 levels that didnt affect any power gains

[lusty grotto]

except a tad more frequent

[daring marlin]

I didn't go past the DR of ap farm tbh

so same nome

[dusky canopy]

same i never weant past the dr farm

[proper roost]

yeah tbh I don't really remember AP being that bad for anyone except giga sweatlords

[dusky canopy]

just stayed current

and it felt great

[lusty grotto]

i just dont like logging in to do chores

i despise it

i dont care if its gated or not

[dusky canopy]

the guys in the 90s before they increased the ap gain was like insane

[lusty grotto]

you shouldn't feel forced to log on

[dusky canopy]

COULDNT be bothered

lmao

[proper roost]

the vault is a much better system in that sense, yeah

[toxic pewter]

Really miss having stuff to work on/toward

[proper roost]

it's good to be able to just raidlog once a raid clear

[crude notch]

The content should be the driving force behind why I log in, not filling up this bar.

[warm plinth]

I mean tbf, the big problem with TF in Legion was the stupid ass relinquished tokens

[strong forum]

getting stronger is why i log on, not the content itself

[toxic pewter]

Nah it’s the rewards

[dusky canopy]

exactly nome

that is my drive in the game as well

i want to feel powerful

i want to gain power everytime i play

if i can

[daring marlin]

I like both. I...admittedly lean towards getting stronger.

Hence why I like playing alts.

[strong forum]

i dont like doing content for the sake of doing content

[daring marlin]

and getting new gear

[strong forum]

if its not tied to a greater goal, i see no point in doing it

[lusty grotto]

i cant agree with any of this

at all

just dont log on

thats it

play other things

watch other stuff

[daring marlin]

That's what I'm doing pal

[strong forum]

thats exactly what im doing

[toxic pewter]

Dragonflight is so great you don’t even have to play it anymore!! LOL

[daring marlin]

I'm happy

[toxic pewter]

df my least favorite expansion

[warm plinth]

I think my preference would be to make gearing slower on main and faster on alts once main gets gear.

[crude notch]

"I don't like doing content".

🙂

[warm plinth]

Gearing was WAY too fast on mains this season

[toxic pewter]

I like talents and stuff but there’s no fun systems

[daring marlin]

fun==systems

[lusty grotto]

what is even the point of getting stronger if you dont use that gain to do the same content?

[toxic pewter]

Ya for me

Systems are fun

[lusty grotto]

such a weird take

[strong forum]

to live your powerfantasy

its the journey

not the destination

[proper roost]

ye i mean idk it's just a difference of what people play the game for, shrug

[crude notch]

But you just said

[daring marlin]

I think...that's Nim's point, actually.

[strong forum]

once ive reached my destination i stop

[proper roost]

the gearing up journey for my alts is a lot more fun rn than trying to push keys on my rsham i think, mostly just because of mental effort required

[strong forum]

jordan

[crude notch]

"If there's not a greater goal"

"it's the journey not the destination"

Those are contradictory

[strong forum]

no those align, its all about getting somewhere, and once youre there youre done

[toxic pewter]

? The greater goal extends the journey

That is what is fun

[daring marlin]

Yeah, plus I stopped caring about pushing after I got portals week 2 cuz pugging is meh.

[lusty grotto]

journeys are never infinite

and shouldn't be

[proper roost]

i think the main issue for me is

[toxic pewter]

I mean life is one long journey

[crude notch]

stfu apb

[proper roost]

pushing keys until last like 6 weeks feels kinda meh

[lusty grotto]

apb what the fuck, life isnt a game

[crude notch]

lmao

[toxic pewter]

?

[proper roost]

the population of keyers atm is so different from week 1-5

[lusty grotto]

or a video game, or an mmo

[proper roost]

It was insane how many players that actually cared played on weeks 1-5

[lusty grotto]

and EVEN THEN ITS FINITE

[daring marlin]

are you saying in last 6 weeks we push for title?

[toxic pewter]

Mmo is effectively a duality of life

A mirror

[proper roost]

[lusty grotto]

jesus fuck

[toxic pewter]

?

U guys ok

[crude notch]

oh god he's going all "big picture" on us

[strong forum]

pushing keys is pretty dumb rn anyway unless youre meta

[lusty grotto]

the wow addict andy has been baited into this garbage

[proper roost]

in the last 6 weeks my hpally will be strong

or well more like 2 weeks

[crude notch]

not if you have a team.

[proper roost]

[daring marlin]

I'm chillin' gearing my dk

[crude notch]

Pushing keys with the homies is always fun because you're doing something with the homies.

Regardless of your comp

[daring marlin]

tfw no homies so no pushing

rip

[proper roost]

tbh if bdk did more damage i feel like its a great pairing for rsham, I suck at healing tank

so having bdk is really comfy

[toxic pewter]

Nah most fun way to play wow is the pug life actually

[proper roost]

well ppal does the same thing but with sac but what can u do 🙈

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-gif-18068749

[ionic canyon]

Ppal deadge

[daring marlin]

Pugging is okay in one way

[toxic pewter]

? It’s not bait. Pugging is the most pure form of wow

Makes you a better player

[lusty grotto]

ima just shut off discord for a few hours

[proper roost]

you get to post dps meters in discord after every key and be like "lol i'm owning these idiots"

[lusty grotto]

cya later guys!

[daring marlin]

The incredibly tiny chance you can meet cool people

[proper roost]

hemk

i was close

i met this one crazy ppal a couple weeks ago who added me, but I've donowalled him for a while since i haven't felt like doing keys on my shaman

[daring marlin]

that's a close second kanga

@lusty grotto bye love you

stretch your shoulder

[crude notch]

I love how shit just got worse after I posted this lol #protection message

[toxic pewter]

Playing with friends every now and then is ok I guess but how will you meet new friends and encounter exciting situations?

[crude notch]

I'm not entertaining this bait apb

[chilly brook]

By going outside and touching grass

[daring marlin]

motherfucker if you're just pugging then you're not playing with said friends

[toxic pewter]

? Talking about in game

I just said every now and then it’s cool to play with some friends sure

[waxen frigate]

A microcosm

Is the word ur looking for

[toxic pewter]

But going it alone is infinitely more fun

[toxic pewter]

Ya thx

[daring marlin]

I'm gonna turn this key around...

[crude notch]

NO NISH

[daring marlin]

better not say anything about my route!!!!

[crude notch]

Nish is chaotic evil, I hate it.

[toxic pewter]

Yah you get the funniest stories with pugs too lmao

I got so many

[crude notch]

|| I hate it because I love it ||

[waxen frigate]

Yes and?

[crude notch]

#protection message

[waxen frigate]

Yes and?

[toxic pewter]

Just reading some of this thd guys takes on Twitter. He’s right on about a lot of stuff that’s for sure

[proper roost]

heal the key or coward

[toxic pewter]

Just followed him

[crude notch]

I want to level a blood elf dk but I don't want to go through the old school starting zone D:

[proper roost]

Why not

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[proper roost]

I like the blood elf starting zone

[crude notch]

?

[proper roost]

??

[crude notch]

You don't go through the belf starting zone

with a dk

Dweeb

[proper roost]

oh

can you not choose

i haven't made a non allied race dk in a long time

Highmountain Tauren just spawned me in front of bolvar like

[crude notch]

Nah you have to go through the old school slow trodge

[proper roost]

"hey bud, here's your sword, new lich king is me, later"

[crude notch]

Yeah bis starting experience

Unironically had the thought of creating an allied race one and instantly race changing

LOL

[toxic pewter]

Just make a void elf

[waxen frigate]

Bobby rubs his hands and licks his lips

[crude notch]

Bill Gates is our daddy now

[toxic pewter]

Gross and awful

🤢

[crude notch]

Almost as sickening as your takes

[dusky canopy]

Baits?

wait wait

Bates

[cinder storm]

No thanks

[dusky canopy]

do we have to call him master?

[toxic pewter]

I just really don’t respect or like bill gates

He’s done some shady shit

[dusky canopy]

what like buy up about half of the US farm land?

lol

not shady at all

[cinder storm]

Of all the billionaires I've read about, he's like the tamest of them all

[crude notch]

Which is a low bar

[toxic pewter]

O_O

Tame is not a word I would use for that individual

[strong forum]

turns out, to get rich you gotta be an asshole and do some scummy shit

[cinder storm]

Yep

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-meme-shocked-pikachu-pokemon-gif-16898675

[crude notch]

No one called him tame you putz

[toxic pewter]

Wat u mean

[crude notch]

It's the same as saying someone's shit is the nicest smelling shit

It's still shit

It still smells bad

[dusky canopy]

Like could of said “least bad”

[toxic pewter]

Still not a word I associate with the situation

But I see the point

[sleek current]

Rashok dead pre-nerf! Whoo

[strong forum]

i dont think hes gonna get a nerf

[dusky canopy]

Pre post nerf

[strong forum]

but grats!

[crude notch]

He gets one toorrow

[dusky canopy]

Hellll yeah

[crude notch]

dummy

[strong forum]

he gets a nerf?

why

[crude notch]

Yes

Because he's the biggest wall rn

[sleek current]

Thanks! 🙂

[cinder storm]

Healing nerf no?

[strong forum]

wtf is that wowhead post

[sleek current]

We did have a Shaman with the new broken trinket so... That might have factors. Lol

[strong forum]

no

pls

thats illegal

[crude notch]

fortnite + wow crossover

let's go

[toxic pewter]

I can finally become ninja

LETS GOOOO

(am I fortniting right)

[strong forum]

forknife

[strong forum]

based

[waxen frigate]

The most based wowhead comment ever

[crude notch]

tencent does own 4.9% of Blizzard 🙂

((And 40% of Epic Games))

[waxen frigate]

Should I stir the pot and tweet it @ asmongold

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[crude notch]

Ask THD's opinion

[toxic pewter]

Just hope we can do building

In wow

[waxen frigate]

I tweeted it

[crude notch]

This is how we get player housing

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[waxen frigate]

WE GOT A

NUMBER ONE VICTORY ROYALE

YEAH FORTNITE WE BOUT TO GET DOWN (GET DOWN)

TEN KILLS ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW

JUST WIPED OUT TOMATO TOWN

MY FRIEND JUST GOT DOWNED

I REVIVED HIM NOW WERE HEADING SOUTHBOUND

NOW WERE IN THE PLEASANT PARK STREETS, OPEN THE MAP GO TO THE MARKED SHEETS

TAKE ME TO YOUR XBOX TO PLAY FORTNITE TODAY

WE CAN TAKE MOISTY MIRE

BUT NOT LOOT LAAAAKE

ID REALLY LOVE TO

CHUG JUG WITH YOU

WE CAN BE PRO FORTNITE GAMERS

(That was from memory )

[toxic pewter]

New tgp trailer is badass. Sick shield slam at 40 second mark https://youtu.be/uIlnnV7GhkQ

[lusty grotto]

just jump the waves smh my head

[proper roost]

goddamn it nim

my discord break was longer than your

s

[toxic pewter]

That me

[lusty grotto]

guilford and jordan tagged me and i couldnt hold back

[waxen frigate]

@lusty grotto fortnite fortnite fortnite

[lusty grotto]

calm down satan

[proper roost]

bless ur heart i love u

[lusty grotto]

no u!

[crude notch]

blame me?

[daring marlin]

nimchadadin

[proper roost]

i should probably put together a UI for my paladin

i've been tanking this whole time without my holy power showing

or cds in any visible area

[strong forum]

[crude notch]

Oh that's right PPal isn't meta anymore, I can play it now

[proper roost]

well i mean if u literally just press shor whenever it's available

ur ok

[waxen frigate]

CDs nuts

[toxic pewter]

Do you at least have your bubble and hearthstone on ur bars and easily clickable

[proper roost]

not even joking

[crude notch]

good this is a serious discor

d

[waxen frigate]

Fortnite

[daring marlin]

When I play my dk I always forget to use ibf

[proper roost]

tbf i forget to use lichborne

it didn't used to have the 20% dr

just the leech buff iirc, which was really weak

[daring marlin]

Don't use that either

vamp owns

[proper roost]

i need to bind it somewhere better i think

its really good now

i mean

ibf 30%

lichborne 20%

[daring marlin]

yes

[proper roost]

same cds basically

it owns

[daring marlin]

They're good

[proper roost]

how could u suck at the game smh... anyway what color should i make my holy power tracker

gold is lame

[daring marlin]

feels like vamp and drw are always up in keys

lmao

make it green

like fel fire

[strong forum]

pink

[daring marlin]

@proper roost

shut up hoe

[toxic pewter]

Dang that’s some solid uptime

[sinful glen]

Haven't tanked on my prot warr this season. There a good guide for DotI that focuses on pwar?

[proper roost]

ya and i once had 95% crit chance with 35% crit on sheet

suck my farts through a straw

[daring marlin]

[proper roost]

with the cap on!!

[sick sentinel]

if you critical 100% of your hits, the boss dies twice as fast

works everytime!

including the healer does hots (that are also 100% crit) on you and you critical block 100% of the hits, allowing the dps to get 100% critical hits also

[proper roost]

hell yeah yogi that's what i'm sayin

ok i'm 423 now

i'm ready to do the megadungeon

[daring marlin]

kanga is having a schizophrenic episode

I should do megadungeon again tonight on warrior

[sick sentinel]

i only want to beat the second boss, become haste god

[daring marlin]

why stop there?

pssshhhht

besides, I'm already the haste god

GET IN LINE

Holy fuck guys

get fucked hpal

[dusky canopy]

BUYING 21/22 FH invite

ffs

[mighty valley]

overall megadungeon seemed less hard than tazavesh hard mode to me despite the hype

[daring marlin]

agreed

[mighty valley]

I bet Morchie is a pug killer though

[daring marlin]

The bosses are pretty basic

Morchie gonna get adjusted

[dusky canopy]

the only boss that seemed hard was last boss and i didnt even know what was going on the healer and tank handled everything

i just zugzug brain boss

[daring marlin]

Morchie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>literally every other boss

[dusky canopy]

and we won

[mighty valley]

last boss jumpscares you with a legit tankbuster, plus there's a mechanic that one person has to be aware of

lothar was honestly the biggest disappointment, felt like a dungeon boss from classic

iridikron was a sick fight though

[daring marlin]

I thought iridikron was the most disappointing

[mighty valley]

lmao, well then

[daring marlin]

there's like two things

bring aoe to chromie

dodge spikes

the adds are a huge nothing

[mighty valley]

the solo tank soak is just a neat spin

[daring marlin]

It is sorta neat

[mighty valley]

and for our group the shield burn phase was tuned well

well... i say that, but one of our dps ate shit

so we barely made it and it was hype

[daring marlin]

The burn phase is pretty sick

I can admit that

[mighty valley]

i've completely forgotten the 3rd boss

so can't have been too great

[proper roost]

i think i shouldn't have crafted sporecloak @daring marlin

ngl I legit thought they would only nerf damage for hpal not healing

also hey uh

am I supposed to get a full on 2s lag spike when I hit divine toll on the first pull of freehold lmfao

[sick sentinel]

it was fun while it lasted

hpal being meta again

[crude notch]

hpal still meta

[daring marlin]

skill issue

SP and Guardian next

fuck 'em

[crude notch]

kapp

[daring marlin]

sp disrespecters rise up

[lusty grotto]

lol

[proper roost]

no but seriously

about the divine toll lag spike

lol

[lusty grotto]

yeah uhh

that shouldnt happen

[proper roost]

wtf

[crude notch]

no kanga

that should definitely happen

[proper roost]

i even have all my dungeon settings down to almost nothing for raid

and non shitty compy

strange

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk

an addon maybe?

[proper roost]

maybe

literally anytime I press divine toll on a large pack

game stutters

[strong forum]

tfw you get literal highest dps ever done in FH as pwar

but its still way behind bear and brew...

https://tenor.com/view/patrickpain-patricksomuchpain-patrickfleas-spongebobpain-spongebobsomuchpain-gif-18151897

[proper roost]

true

[crude notch]

you washed nome or?

[strong forum]

fuck that

yeah i mean i gave it to as close to the source as possible

nothing else one can do

[sick sentinel]

how come you get more dps in fh as pwar

[waxen frigate]

How much

[strong forum]

123k log dps

[sick sentinel]

is it to do with parry

[waxen frigate]

Details Dps

[strong forum]

149k

[sick sentinel]

recount

[waxen frigate]

Warrior down bad

[sick sentinel]

my bdk friend used, or still uses, recount

he's pvp 50/50 tho

[crude notch]

augvoker or no augvoker?

[strong forum]

with aug ofc

[crude notch]

so nome washed

gotcha

[sick sentinel]

dragon in some regards over rated, not bad, just, sometimes id rather have another pure dps

[waxen frigate]

Where are the BDK mains coping that their dmg isn’t that far behind

[strong forum]

highest bdk ive seen in FH was 130k iirc

[waxen frigate]

The thing is a lot of them legit still act like it’s not a big gap between them and other tanks

It’s bizarre

[crude notch]

nome was one of them wym

[strong forum]

i mean prior to current patch

the gaps between tanks were closer

but now bear and brew are just turbo ahead

[waxen frigate]

Closer but still not very close in terms of BDK

It’s not like brew shot up 30%

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

cuz the highest rio ones are full pillow must go max EHP andies

so by default they do sub 100k dps

[waxen frigate]

Tru

[sick sentinel]

bdk is alot of fun i think

even though it sucks

[waxen frigate]

BDK is fun in raid imo

Just because of how easy it is

[lusty grotto]

what are you clocking at now Nome?

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/stable-ronaldo-dance-gif-18658322

BDK pov in raid ^

[strong forum]

average is like 100-110k

BH and FH obv higher

[waxen frigate]

Oh I should mention the pic I linked is a 20 FH

[lusty grotto]

how much in FH/BH?

[strong forum]

ive not done BH with an aug yet

[lusty grotto]

i cant get above 70k on NL

on logs

[strong forum]

yeah okay

[lusty grotto]

its weird

[sick sentinel]

there are a few really good packs for AOE in BH

[strong forum]

NL is just fucked

and ive not done NL as tank yet iirc

[waxen frigate]

brackenhide is wild

[lusty grotto]

yeah vp is also a cursed one

[strong forum]

VP 100k should be doable

[waxen frigate]

I did 140k on brew there back when bok first got its double buff

[sick sentinel]

VP 16 was a joke

[waxen frigate]

At like 435

[lusty grotto]

i gotta check logs, all i know my NL numbers are giga sadge

i wish i had beacon 😦

[strong forum]

BH i did 103k log dps apparently

[lusty grotto]

and anvil

[strong forum]

last week

[astral whale]

prot is the worst tank 😦

[lusty grotto]

[jagged pier]

[toxic pewter]

do people like augvoker

[lusty grotto]

yes

[strong forum]

yes

[toxic pewter]

or is it just a necessary evil

[frigid valley]

am i blind or is there no animation on the 4set dmg?

[strong forum]

its tiny iirc

[jagged pier]

U blind

[toxic pewter]

y people like augvoker but complain about 'borrowed power'

[lusty grotto]

whats more noticeable is the sound

[strong forum]

cuz augvoker doesnt do alot if you yourself suck

[astral whale]

is aug voker getting deleted next season?

[jagged pier]

No

[strong forum]

and that

[astral whale]

borrowed power goes away

[crude notch]

why you lie nome?

[astral whale]

support classes should be expanded

[toxic pewter]

yah but doesnt borrowed power also help bad player be better

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ho-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-ho-shit-gif-19145957

[crude notch]

you said you did 123k log dps

[astral whale]

its a good concept

[strong forum]

ye?

[toxic pewter]

i feel like theres a disconnect occurring somewhere.. surely.. it cannot be me..

[strong forum]

in the log itself its 126k

[astral whale]

right now aug is a nice bandaid for bad healers

[strong forum]

but on the leaderboard its 123k

dont ask me why

[astral whale]

so it makes things easier

[toxic pewter]

?

[strong forum]

borrowed power is bad when its just flat dmg procs that dont interact with your spec at all and enhance your experience

borrowed power is done well when its like necro banner and SL tierset, it enhances your playstyle and is only an actual power gain if you play well

[crude notch]

imagine being 20k behind a bear with fragment and dice

LMAO

fooking loser

[strong forum]

its bad if your spec RELIES on borrowed power to function

its good if it just enhances it

[toxic pewter]

Ok, I see your point. That makes sense and that is why I guess making blanket statements 'all borrowed power is bad' is probably bad to do also

[strong forum]

all this skill but no fruits to bear

[astral whale]

or when things are balanced with borrowed power

[lusty grotto]

jordan, hold me

[astral whale]

like a crappy spec getting a huge 4set instead of a rework

[crude notch]

also 440 ilvl?

[astral whale]

ala BDK in SL

[toxic pewter]

y they take away our str from aug armor

[strong forum]

yeah like i said

if your spec relies on borrowed power to function

its bad

[astral whale]

yup

[strong forum]

ive done almost alot of keys!

[toxic pewter]

how would banner be in current prot warr design with our talent trees

[strong forum]

literally the same thing

[lusty grotto]

those are rookie numbers

[strong forum]

but too easy

[toxic pewter]

ya

[strong forum]

if they give us banner + glory, they need to nerf glory

[toxic pewter]

would need to make keeping up banner harder or something

ya

[strong forum]

cuz i could EASILY stack up a several minute long banner right now

[crude notch]

I'm more worried by the fact that more geared pwars aren't outdps'ing you. like

[strong forum]

my longest banner in DF pre-patch was like 4 minutes long stacked up buff duration

[crude notch]

y'all losing to a dude with champion gear in two slots

[strong forum]

yeah thats the sad part

im behind by like 5 ilvl

[toxic pewter]

banner warr is what made shadowlands more fun than df for me

[strong forum]

yes

agreed

[astral whale]

does anyone still play pwar at this point in the season?

besides nom

[lusty grotto]

banner war was fun

ngl

[toxic pewter]

i wont lie in the moment I even had some criticism for banner, but looking back I was just foolish

[lusty grotto]

why are you trying to bait so much jesus christ

[astral whale]

🙂

[toxic pewter]

it was just really solidly designed

[strong forum]

like going from the turbo spec that SL s3/s4 pwar was

[crude notch]

jakey got 5 ilvl on you

[strong forum]

to sleeper DF pwar

[crude notch]

smh

[strong forum]

is sad

jakey is also more a raider

than m+er

[toxic pewter]

is there any tank that plays like banner warr right now

[strong forum]

nop

[toxic pewter]

or any spec even

[crude notch]

his 18 was 19 minutes, ain't no way he shoulda lost to you

[strong forum]

all tanks are quite easy, brew just has alot of buttons thats why its "harder"

[crude notch]

gods bless had this discussion earlier in peak

I was trying to tell them that more buttons =/= harder inherently

[lusty grotto]

its a good thing they decided to make tanks easy but healers 5 times as hard

great idea all around

[strong forum]

its why i played preservation for a bit in s1

cuz it had whatever crumb of skill expression left

but then i realised

that most healers are just afk when it comes to dmg output

getting 95-100 dmg logs as healer when 20ilvl behind

is not ok

even in mythic raid

[lusty grotto]

ah yes, a fellow Warrior has declined me

[strong forum]

need aug

clearly

wait tank

[lusty grotto]

😢

[strong forum]

need bear

sorry

[dusky canopy]

ahhh yes

[lusty grotto]

yeye

[dusky canopy]

the average warrior lfg appearance

[astral whale]

bear or vdh or no invite

[crude notch]

that key is depleted there's no auggie v

imagine signing up to a key without an augvoker though amirite

[toxic pewter]

what addon/weakaura is that shows the class roles

[dusky canopy]

spriest/aug/war kinda slaps

[lusty grotto]

raider.io?

[dusky canopy]

and you always get the pi with that comp

[crude notch]

LMAO

[dusky canopy]

brrrr

[toxic pewter]

no the specs i mean

[lusty grotto]

smh

[toxic pewter]

holy, etc

[crude notch]

raider.io

[lusty grotto]

its raider.io

[crude notch]

it's in settings

[toxic pewter]

whoa really

thx

[dusky canopy]

ok ngl i actually didnt even know rio did that

ive always had premade group filter

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/DSKzDEe.png

[dusky canopy]

10/10

[lusty grotto]

well i have PGF too

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

me poor dorf legs

[astral whale]

all those poor people still playing pala

wow

[strong forum]

this does include 10.1 data

[astral whale]

fotm rerollers should all be bear now

[dusky canopy]

this is my tab appearance

[strong forum]

10.1.5 data would be even more skewed

like 70% bear or some shit

[crude notch]

ye this is current title holders

that pally number literally got cut in half from last week to this

[dusky canopy]

that many vdh?

i didnt even know

[astral whale]

its been really funny to watch everyone start 10.0 as pwar, switch to pala for 10.0.5, then switch to vdh for 10.1 then switch to bear for 10.1.5

[dusky canopy]

is that becuase magic comp?

[crude notch]

ye this week by week

[crude notch]

ye

[past summit]

prot warrior here, having some trouble keeping up with dps since the patch ... can anyone give me a hand?

[astral whale]

FOTM rerollers

[crude notch]

why not

it's so easy to reroll rn

[lusty grotto]

do you have logs?

[toxic pewter]

all those paladins lmao they all went fuck this im out

[past summit]

no

[chilly brook]

Isn’t the first time nor the last time you’ll see it lol

[lusty grotto]

ok then how are we supposed to help you

do you have anything we can work with?

[crude notch]

We've unironically had 3 different #1 tanks in 10 weeks.

[past summit]

sorry, I guess I came to the wrong place

[strong forum]

any numbers or keylevels

[astral whale]

ye 10.2 needs to be brew with the rework and then 10.2.5 can be BDK, then we can come full circle back to pwar

[chilly brook]

Speaking of paladins

Kekw holy getting a nerf bat

[lusty grotto]

im very confused

[toxic pewter]

fire mage needs more nerf

[strong forum]

came along a little aggressive i guess

[dusky canopy]

This is the correct place to ask for information however if you do not provide us with any information at all how are we supposed to offer advice?

[crude notch]

we can't help you execute better without knowing what you're doing wrong

[dusky canopy]

"hey im struggling with damage"

[lusty grotto]

perhaps so nome

[dusky canopy]

does not allow us to help you

[past summit]

I dont have logs, what do you want to know?

[lusty grotto]

how do you know youre struggling with dps?

[crude notch]

What buttons you're hitting

[lusty grotto]

lets start with that

[chilly brook]

Quite literally everything

[dusky canopy]

we need to know your casts

your block uptime

cd management

etc

[crude notch]

Your CD usage

[strong forum]

aight dont pile up

[dusky canopy]

all in logs

[chilly brook]

What buttons you’re pressing, how often said buttons are being pressed, rage generation/waste etc.

[past summit]

yikes, ok bye

[dusky canopy]

?????

goodluck to you then

[strong forum]

if you get hit by 4 diff people asking 15 questions this can come as too aggressive

[dusky canopy]

doesnt get any better than where youre asking right now

[lusty grotto]

cant help if you dont give us anything to help with

[dusky canopy]

oh yeah just to clarify nobody is hating

[toxic pewter]

@past summit come back

[lusty grotto]

i mean fuck

[chilly brook]

@dusky canopy I love Texas bruv

[crude notch]

My best advice without further context is reading the icy-veins guide and looking at the rotation area. We're unable to really help you much beyond that without knowing much else, sorry.

[dusky canopy]

Texas owns my guy im trying to be there

wife aint having it

[chilly brook]

Oof

[dusky canopy]

wisco is next best ofc

[crude notch]

don't do this

[toxic pewter]

?

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

World of Warcraft player gets shooed off by apparent aggressiveness in a text chat

more news at 11

[crude notch]

If you're incapable of reading what nome is telling you and having the ability to read from that perspective you shouldn't have been responding in the first place.

[chilly brook]

I just invited the federal gubment to crawl up my ass today

[lusty grotto]

jordan can you tell me where i was being aggressive?

point it out

[crude notch]

If you're incapable of reading what nome is telling you and having the ability to read from that perspective you shouldn't have been responding in the first place.

#protection message

[lusty grotto]

i mean its a text chat

of course there's gonna be a few people

[chilly brook]

Look

I get the guy might have been a little overwhelmed but no one was rude or anything

[dusky canopy]

ohhhh boy

what did you do?

[crude notch]

Anyways, the point was perspective.

[dusky canopy]

this

[daring marlin]

haha pink class go

[crude notch]

ikr

That graph is funny

[dusky canopy]

we are honestly one of the more helpful groups

i have frequented many spots when playing around with alts

this is THE place to be

[crude notch]

No one is saying you're not

[strong forum]

yeah but imagine youre going into a room with like 300 people, you get to voice 1 question on stage and suddenly get 5 people jump in your face with you on stage and pull on your clothes and ask your questions

[dusky canopy]

for info

[lusty grotto]

lmao nome cmon

[strong forum]

thats what it looked like to me

[lusty grotto]

i get what youre saying but

its just words on the internet

[crude notch]

there is no but

[toxic pewter]

who cares about logs they having trouble keeping aggro

[dusky canopy]

I recognize nomes point

[lusty grotto]

he didnt say that apb

[proper roost]

hi wh

oh

[lusty grotto]

he said he had problems with dps

[chilly brook]

I purchased a forbidden whisper pickle

[proper roost]

yikes!

[strong forum]

yeah and you could instantly read the situation needed to be taken slow after his first reaction

[daring marlin]

BDK🤝WAR🤝Brew

[lusty grotto]

look

[daring marlin]

True fans stay together

[proper roost]

jesus

nim is having a day today

[crude notch]

PPal about to join them

[lusty grotto]

people have said that this discord is the more helpful of all the tank discords combined

[crude notch]

I wonder if PPal will get down to the teens

No one is saying it isn't

[daring marlin]

If it does

[lusty grotto]

how much more do you want us to be, if a guy instanly quits on this discord hes gonna have an extremely bad time on the others. I get being overwhelmed, but we're also not mind-readers

[daring marlin]

I may push on it again

I might shoot for 3k on multiple tanks near the end of the season

[strong forum]

well yeah absolutely

but gotta be a bit slower in pulling out the information from em

step by step kinda deal

[crude notch]

If Nome was able to read it that quickly, surely the rest of us could of. (This is no slight on Nome)

😛

[lusty grotto]

well i was trying to get to it

[strong forum]

yeah i know that

but he wasnt

it came off as aggressive to him

evidently

[crude notch]

You know what they say

It is

What is

[daring marlin]

Toxichip smh my damn helmet

[crude notch]

RIGH

RIGH

[strong forum]

well obv

[crude notch]

KANGA

[strong forum]

nobody is owed anything in here and it depends on both sides to come to a good discussion/conclusion

[crude notch]

Let's do this 27 FH

[proper roost]

i think it was mostly from nim saying "well what are we supposed to do then" about the log question

[crude notch]

My eye hurts help

[daring marlin]

who has a 27 FH tho

[proper roost]

which tbf... is true...

but

🙈

[crude notch]

Yo Kanga tryna beef

SMH

[lusty grotto]

yeah but my follow up up was #protection message

i just didnt follow up quick enough i guess

[strong forum]

some people you gotta lead on with a trail of snacks

[daring marlin]

Ooh piece of candy

[proper roost]

i mean tbf it kinda sounds like he just wanted validation

not advice

you know, like yogi

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/candy-candy-trail-p-iece-of-candy-gif-5016759

[strong forum]

🤷

[crude notch]

Tbf we do be getting bored in here lately, so we saw an opportunity to help and got all baby puppy anxious

[proper roost]

like a good ol "yeah i suck too prot warrior sucks echo chamber suck suck suck"

[lusty grotto]

oh

[strong forum]

🤷

[lusty grotto]

id rather not assume that's the case lmao

[crude notch]

Kanga doing a lot of sucking there buddy

[lusty grotto]

we have enough headbaskets here

😎

[proper roost]

you know what doesn't suck

[crude notch]

I'm normal

[strong forum]

not as long as im around

😎

[proper roost]

the new alt i'm playing this week

[lusty grotto]

shut up normie

[daring marlin]

[proper roost]

and then the next week

[crude notch]

smh

[proper roost]

whatever new alt I play then

also owns

[crude notch]

I ain't taking any advice from people that can't beat a 440 PWar in damage, js

[lusty grotto]

yes yes

[crude notch]

JUST

SAYIN

Y'now

Y'know

[proper roost]

439, best I can do

[lusty grotto]

[crude notch]

beat a*

[proper roost]

tbh class discords becoming circlejerks is the worst part about them

[crude notch]

If you losing to a D4 main in damage, you gotta evaluate yo life really

[proper roost]

i've said it before but if i listened to rsham discord they are literally worse than garbage

heal the boss instead of healing raid

[lusty grotto]

oh boy look at that

yet another warrior brother going with the only tank

[strong forum]

its hard to not have that

REALLY hard

cuz the people "in power" gotta be able to take an L

[proper roost]

you just have to curb anytime someone is woe-is-me'ing

but yea

[lusty grotto]

wait what the fuck is it with fury warriors listing uldamans

[proper roost]

also ig it's often perpetrated by the TCs

[lusty grotto]

or arms i mean

[strong forum]

its not just the TCs

[proper roost]

it's a difficult line to walk to self-advocate but not doom

[daring marlin]

nim tank for my ret

I'll bring 1min sac

[crude notch]

Imma keep it a buck fifty, this channel pretty litty as far as tank channels go

[lusty grotto]

nice nice

[strong forum]

basically gotta try to keep your ego at a low, which i obv also am not the best at but i think im kinda ok

just bragging here and there about my damej

[proper roost]

if pwar was bis people would still complain about things like demo shout cd or getting spell block being really expensive or BSV being wrong

[crude notch]

I'm also gonna keep it a buck fitty, I used to hate like all of you

[proper roost]

so there's always something to complain about

🤔

[crude notch]

Jakey, Nome, Nim, all y'all

For no reason

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-haters-club-bad-things-gif-8241805

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/good-good-jimmy-o-yang-laugh-track-ok-okay-gif-24913763

[lusty grotto]

i love me the haters ball skit

[strong forum]

i remember SL jordan

[crude notch]

LMAO

I used to hate on you so bad for literally no reason, i can't even explain it looking back. idk y

[daring marlin]

Not me. I haven't been active here since muh viability.

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-ihate-you-i-dont-even-know-you-i-hate-your-guts-hate-gif-5004602

[crude notch]

Basically ^

[strong forum]

jordan would just pick fights with everybody

[toxic pewter]

yah he would

[lusty grotto]

chappelle show continues to be the GOAT

[strong forum]

it truly is

[daring marlin]

jordan loves to poke the bear

they're gr8

[strong forum]

i remember checking out MTV so often just for chappelles show

only to miss it for years and years

[crude notch]

Listen sometimes you gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette... or somethin.

[lusty grotto]

you could rewatch it now and it still applies

[daring marlin]

fuck yo couch

[lusty grotto]

hell start with clayton bigsby, still applies

darkness

[daring marlin]

DARKNESSES

[toxic pewter]

is wayne brady gonna have to choke a b*?

[lusty grotto]

lmao

fucking wayne brady had me in tears the first time i saw that

[toxic pewter]

that my fav episode

and thats saying somethin cuz they are all amazing

[lusty grotto]

angeldusttttt

[sick sentinel]

so, what happens if i come back to dawn, i have to re-clear it?

[toxic pewter]

it saves like a raid lockout, each boss you have killed will be gone when you re-enter the dungeon. You should be 'teleported' roughly to where you 'left off' when you enter

[sick sentinel]

i was in a group and i found second bosse too hard, so i gave up

i'd say i watched the video, but i didnt

[toxic pewter]

yah that boss can mess groups up thats for sure

[lusty grotto]

hmm im scared of healing priests

[chilly brook]

@dusky canopy do you get what I’m referring to?

[dusky canopy]

i have no idea homie LOL

[lusty grotto]

so far its either been extremely fucking ridiculously good discs, or just flat out bad any of them

[dusky canopy]

sounds very uhh.. interesting

[chilly brook]

A suppressor

[dusky canopy]

ohhhh sick!

[sick sentinel]

it takes me to tyr

[crude notch]

@strong forum the worst part is Equinox is doing 157k in a FH 28 with double def trinkets the damage gap prett funny

meanwhile in peak

[lusty grotto]

hmm.. but didnt they lean out the rotation?

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-evil-smile-gif-13030909

nerf

[crude notch]

https://twitter.com/Squishei/status/1681065198789042177?s=20

Squishei (@Squishei)

FYI if you're doing last minute raid/key pushing, the Echoing Tyrstone hotfix just went live a little early.

• 70%+ increased healing split among nearby allies.
• Can now crit.

Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 10:15 PM

[lusty grotto]

i thought blizzard reworked it for this patch, or is that wrong?

[sick sentinel]

looks like the group i was in got as far as morchie before giving up

[crude notch]

they gave it a talent that numerically is weaker but yeah it cut out two buttons (1 CD 1 rotational)

[lusty grotto]

i see

[crude notch]

Then they got rid of dampen for 10% dodge.

[daring marlin]

Why did you quit anyway?

Don't be a quitter!

[crude notch]

So effectively you lost like 3 buttons as brew if you're playing the "meta" build

Nish don't read this

[sick sentinel]

because, i didnt know the mechanics and was harming the group more than helping

[lusty grotto]

are brews really so complex? if looked at non-biased

[toxic pewter]

so wait is press the advantage actually the pick or no

[daring marlin]

How many times did you wipe?

[sick sentinel]

ive seen first 3 bosses on yt now

[lusty grotto]

my perspective is that they just had way too many abilities

but again that's just from off-hand commentary

[sick sentinel]

wiped twice on second boss, died on first boss to leap

[crude notch]

it's very hotly contested rn. It's numerically not the best option butttt it's close enough to where it doesn't matter really

[sick sentinel]

so, i have to learn

[toxic pewter]

ok thats good to know i def plan to run it if i play my brew again

[crude notch]

You also get giga burst from RSK because of it, which is nice on certain bosses (totem, star)

[daring marlin]

yogi how are you supposed to learn if you give up?

[crude notch]

Honestly Equinox has always just ran whatever he wanted, bis or not.

Which like people are dumb and incapable of understanding, if you're good enough at pressing your buttons and you have 4 other people that are good enough at pressing their buttons and your schedules line up, you can do pretty much anything in this game.

[toxic pewter]

i click

[lusty grotto]

yeah pretty much

[daring marlin]

🤯😱🤯😱

[toxic pewter]

im a spell book clicker

[crude notch]

Like if someone went out started timing 27s+ with no ravager, people would start coming in here dissing on how we say to take ravager in keys despite XYZ not taking it.

People be dumb.

Bronzies struggle to realize it's not your build holding you back it's your hands

[strong forum]

as much of a meme equinox is

he knows how to do dmg/pad alot

[crude notch]

ye

He's causing quite the fuss in Peak lately

Without even saying anything lol

[strong forum]

and that is technically also true, cuz from what i heard tanks were all supposed to be that strong, but only 1 class dev actually pulled through

[strong forum]

lately? he always does

[crude notch]

TRUEEE

[crude notch]

nice edit

[strong forum]

cuz its important to mention

[crude notch]

Lasher damage anyone

[strong forum]

50dkp minus if anybody touches lashers!

[sick sentinel]

AND IF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IT I'LL KICK YOU OUTTA THE GUILD!!!

[strong forum]

[crude notch]

Listen I pool rage for Lasher Razing

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73wc2V-5PA

same guy raging

but it has a funny ending

[daring marlin]

yogi

why are you a quitter bro

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-running-why-are-you-running-away-pretty-liars1-nollywood-gif-16102856

Guilford to Yogi

[sick sentinel]

i already did a ton of keys this week

it would only be doing the mega for loto and achievements really

[daring marlin]

mans joins a dungeon and leaves four people hanging

ya hate to see it

[sick sentinel]

i also don't want to be bain of my group

keep them in there 7 hours cuz i cant get mechanics

[daring marlin]

Were people raging?

[crude notch]

wait you left a group hanging with a lockout?

[daring marlin]

How many wipes?

[crude notch]

hate to see it

[sick sentinel]

not really, but i didnt have any clue what was going on

[daring marlin]

messed up bro

[sick sentinel]

it's tough so far

i mean, it did say this dungeon is significantly harder than previous ones

[daring marlin]

Tazavesh was harder