but is the evoker supposed to do less dps than the heal kekw
#protection
craggy pilot
daring marlin
yup
daring marlin
but is the evoker supposed to do less dps than the heal kekw
?????????
craggy pilot
like aug evoker on 28k dps on bosses
thought it would be semi decent DPS, while buffing others
daring marlin
may as well be doing 150k+ himself
He's giving them THAT MUCH DAMAGE
This is giving me flashbacks to disc in ulduar before details counted absorbs
craggy pilot
still thought Evoker would be above tank dmg atleast
craggy pilot
since its taking a DPs spot
lusty grotto
that sounds resonable
strong forum
but is the evoker supposed to do less dps than the heal kekw
augvoker is bugged on details
craggy pilot
augvoker is bugged on details
ah ok
strong forum
that augvoker did like 150k dps in that key
waxen frigate
strong forum
and dorki did less than that
waxen frigate
strong forum
cuz all the dmg the augvoker benefits the group, doesnt get attributed to augvoker on details
proper roost
in an average key
strong forum
only on logs
proper roost
prescience isn't FULLY attributed well because crit has extra interactions
so actually even more of the dps is the aug's
craggy pilot
cuz all the dmg the augvoker benefits the group, doesnt get attributed to augvok...
oh so his own dps is still like 48k overall, meanwhile the "buff" dmg is like 90k?
strong forum
yes
proper roost
think there's a few debuffs that they put on mobs that make them take more damage
and shit like that
craggy pilot
damn details has a lot of work to do xD
strong forum
details CANT do it
proper roost
it would just lag you even more to parse all of that midfight
strong forum
until blizz changes how it works
proper roost
yeah idk if it's even possible ig
strong forum
its literally blizz' fault
craggy pilot
it would just lag you even more to parse all of that midfight
everyone loves lag right?
lusty grotto
log results seem to me like they actually did a good job with the class
craggy pilot
people still play D4
proper roost
anyway, it literally doesn't matter, aug is fine, even casuals know that the actual dps is from the buffs
well not "fine"
but
it's fine as in no one is gonna be like "lol they only do 20k dps"
craggy pilot
ye i know Aug is like a bunch of buffs
proper roost
more expecting the mage nerfs in a couple days
craggy pilot
but thougt they would at least be slightly on par or above the tank
tardy sequoia
on vp last boss
lusty grotto
they're a dps class, they need to deal damage too
tardy sequoia
is it better being stunned by the entanglement than going outside the triangle right?
craggy pilot
they're a dps class, they need to deal damage too
yea my point exactly
proper roost
i don't understand what you're not understanding tbqh
lusty grotto
id say i have no problems with them being on top of tanks
craggy pilot
like doing 30k dps is kinda weird
proper roost
is it better being stunned by the entanglement than going outside the triangle r...
yes, if you walk outside you will just straight up die
daring marlin
kanga
tardy sequoia
because they happened simultaneously
daring marlin
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills right now
tardy sequoia
idk if it is intended by blizzard
proper roost
idk what you mean by intended
Sometimes affixes interact
A 2 second stun is not gonna wipe you on asaad
or pretty much any boss honestly, not as a tank
asaad literally least of all because he like literally doesnt do anythign to the tank
and he never spawns a star immediately out of a lightning field
toxic pewter
anyone know if can run the dungeon again to get no deaths achievement (in the same week, I get wouldnt get loot and all that 2nd time)
toxic pewter
dang really
lusty grotto
would make no sense
toxic pewter
wait is it set to a lockout like mythic raiding
proper roost
yes it's a mythic 0
toxic pewter
or like heroic raiding where per boss
proper roost
it works the same as literally all other m0
toxic pewter
ok
proper roost
well idk about the lockout honestly cuz i've never
craggy pilot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Zw7YQKgzxJbBr24d#fight=1&type=damage-done
like what am i missing here? The Ebon Might is 40k dps, so the Evoker is 90k DPS natty? or what?
do they have more buffs than Ebon Might?
proper roost
I don't know the exact details of all of augvoker's rotation, but yes it has at least prescience (crit buff), ebon might, and like a few debuffs and other buffs as well
so no ebon might is not all you can literlaly just mouseover the tooltips in that log
i don't really care to learn anything about aug tbh at least right now
craggy pilot
ah ye i see Shifting Sands and Prescience
real hard to see what is buffing others and what is buffing themself though
Breath of Eons also seems to buff allies
lusty grotto
id say that
if you wanna learn, try to check if evoker has an augmentation channel or just level/play one
its day 1, so
craggy pilot
wdym augmentation channel?
craggy pilot
oh thought he meant like a channeled spell 😄
toxic pewter
craggy pilot
guess its never a good idea to bring 2 Augvokers then xD
1 Augvoker buffing another Augvoker
dusky canopy
ebon might is 15% prime stat in 5-mans
lusty grotto
yeah i meant evoker discord
dusky canopy
Dragon simps my favorite
lusty grotto
the only one here that was planning on playing avoker was @chilly brook
chilly brook
strong forum
people are getting kicked
or people are leaving group
cuz augvoker dmg looks bad on details
lusty grotto
lol
dusky canopy
People Ree that’s ok
lusty grotto
here comes the gif
dusky canopy
Just bring them to your own groups and pog out
lusty grotto
craggy pilot
bunch of nielsens running around
literally just asking questions and you clowning me wtf
augvoker not even live on EU yet
lusty grotto
let us beta test!
daring marlin
<:detective:912341312907378689>
warm plinth
cuz augvoker dmg looks bad on details
Surely no one could see this coming
warm plinth
Idk why the fuck they're doing those keys; blizz is either going to invalidate them or ban for the blatant abuse
craggy pilot
hpal got buffed on dmg or what happened this patch?
strong forum
hpal got a massive rework
warm plinth
Nothing is working properly with augvoker. So the specs it's buffing look amazing and the augvoker looks like shit
strong forum
what a fucking mess
craggy pilot
i just need to speedrun journal, and then go on vacation for 2 weeks 🤣
warm plinth
Probably the buggiest patch they've implemented in a while
craggy pilot
need those tendies
warm plinth
At least this expansion for sure
young wasp
So uhh. Am I dog water or is the annulet nerf neglibile to a 447 ring? Literally feel like I'm doing less damage with the 447 despite the nerf
chilly brook
Nothing is working properly with augvoker. So the specs it's buffing look amazi...
it do be working
daring marlin
haha funny dragon man make me go brrrrrrrrrrrr
clever heart
If we have two 447 rings, we 100% dont use Onyx ring now right ? even in raid ?
daring marlin
annulet big stinker now
clever heart
Praise
strong forum
annulet is in the dumpster now
craggy pilot
break the meta, and keep using annulet
strong forum
but we still run eragon in raid
craggy pilot
why not
clever heart
but we still run eragon in raid
WAT ! did the nerf not go through ? or even with the nerf it's still good ?
dusky canopy
WAT ! did the nerf not go through ? or even with the nerf it's still good ?
Bingo
clever heart
lol WHICH
strong forum
WAT ! did the nerf not go through ? or even with the nerf it's still good ?
its just that good
ultimately just sim
lusty grotto
im about to test it out
craggy pilot
isnt the point of the Annulet nerf not to do better dps with a normal ring, but to do whatever dps we would have always done with a normal ring, and just the annulet being worse
lusty grotto
too bad im not in avoker's group 😭
strong forum
but eragon + frostfirebelt is likely the play in raid still
clever heart
nooo.
screw it. ima admit im a stupid warrior who cant read, and just intentionally decide to stop using it. im so sick of it.
idgaf i have a 421 socketed one. it's going into storage
craggy pilot
nooo.
screw it. ima admit im a stupid warrior who cant read, and just intentiona...
overall ilvl looks good because zug zug
clever heart
ZUG ZUG ❤️
craggy pilot
Dorki doing VP now, and the Augvoker actually doing higher DPS than the HPal xD
dusky canopy
That boi slammin
proper roost
guess its never a good idea to bring 2 Augvokers then xD
not in keys, but in raids they can't really do that
their buffs prefer DPS
but yes would be dumb to bring 2 aug to a key
daring marlin
getting loam rep is ass
dusky canopy
I refuse
craggy pilot
not in keys, but in raids they can't really do that
yeye meant in M+
dusky canopy
I just stay a week behind
daring marlin
I need a ring
dusky canopy
Can miss me with all that RPing shit
daring marlin
when the hell does this researcher crap give you rep
modern gazelle
How do the lockouts work on the new dungeon? someone in my group has to leave on 5th boss...
can i get another person to join then just help them do the first 4 later, ill just be loot locked?
dusky canopy
Wait, word!?
daring marlin
yeah for the half piece
dusky canopy
I might actually catch up if pvp weekly gives me enough rep
daring marlin
pvp weekly straight up gives the shard
proper roost
ya its ur first pvp weekly or loamm weekly
daring marlin
splinter w/e
dusky canopy
:pog:
daring marlin
faction brain
proper roost
megadungeon in 30 minutes? @daring marlin
dusky canopy
So like que BGs for X honor or something?
lusty grotto
weekly is world pvp iirc
proper roost
the rep is pretty fast tbh
dusky canopy
Killing rares?
proper roost
i've done both and i am pretty sure researchers is faster
no you just do researchers, killing rares literally doesnt give u rep
researchers event gives ~1300 rep and then you do one dig and its done ~15min total
lusty grotto
@chilly brook do you know how avokers work in raid? is it group only or raid wide? im guessing group only right?
craggy pilot
from what i heard its proximity?
chilly brook
<@133532617940140032> do you know how avokers work in raid? is it group only or ...
4 nearest
lusty grotto
ah fuck
craggy pilot
similar to Warrior Banner
chilly brook
But you can also “smart” target two targets
dusky canopy
It’s kinda rip because they won’t play in melee
craggy pilot
ye smart target 2 targets, other 2 are "nearest"
chilly brook
Prescience makes it so you can target two people
craggy pilot
"wtb augvoker buff and PI"
craggy pilot
and WFT
dusky canopy
And monk..
craggy pilot
gotta get the full juice
dusky canopy
Boy we got a lot of asks
craggy pilot
In logs aug gets all the damage
who looks at logs, everyone drooling over details
round pendant
boys is there an addon that lets me quickly look up players logs?
dusky canopy
I wonder how they can make that work for Aug but not pi
craggy pilot
I wonder how they can make that work for Aug but not pi
i guess prim stat is easier than haste
craggy pilot
because haste = CD reduction in some cases
chilly brook
I wonder how they can make that work for Aug but not pi
Haste very hard to attribute
proper roost
crit is as well, prescience definitely isn't fully attributing
craggy pilot
and haste = more resources in a lot of cases (ours fx)
proper roost
the CD reduction ability def has no way to attribute as well
so there's a bunch of dps gains there that aren't going to attribute
chilly brook
Aug is basically almost all flat damage increases
dusky canopy
Yeah that makes perfect sense
craggy pilot
CD reduction of Pala Blessing
chilly brook
the CD reduction ability def has no way to attribute as well
Very very rarely going to take that though
proper roost
like 90% of it is attributeable, 10% isn't
Wym isn't it like literally a baseline spec talent
chilly brook
No
round pendant
I just checked all the people applying to my key on wcl
and they're all parsing like <20 in heroic
this must be why I get such awful players
craggy pilot
VP +25 😄
strong forum
theres gonna be a new partition of logs isnt there
craggy pilot
200k dps Ret and Havoc holy shit 🤣
strong forum
200k dps Ret and Havoc holy shit 🤣
~30-50k of that belongs to the augvoker
craggy pilot
yeye ofc
dusky canopy
Oh yam absolutely always refresh the applicants part of the WCLs app
craggy pilot
Details be like 🤪
proper roost
why isn't the augvoker guide written by preheat
craggy pilot
Smallest target count
exactly xD
chilly brook
@proper roost you talking about this ye?
dusky canopy
Even besides the fact that it’s reading incorrectly on details
craggy pilot
its dorki key, not mine @dusky canopy
dusky canopy
It’s about to be HUGE
dusky canopy
its dorki key, not mine <@224952758808215555>
Ye I see dorkibear
proper roost
<@116366605818134530> you talking about this ye?
ya, is this one not taken?
proper roost
i'd kinda prefer if it wasn't because it interacts very poorly with fury
and i'd imagine a lot of other classes since you're kinda used to your existing cd syncs lol
chilly brook
Desyncing CDs and also just generally not useful on a lot of them
chilly brook
The idea is solid
proper roost
its like the hpally one, kinda fucks up recklessness cd for fury
chilly brook
Just doesn’t hold up in practice
craggy pilot
like do people do 150k dpg overall in VP 25 without Evoker?
chilly brook
Dorki just casually doing 122k
craggy pilot
ah ok, guess its been too long since i did keys xD
chilly brook
chilly brook
Hard to say for sure without logs
lusty grotto
well depends which dungeon hes tanking
craggy pilot
yea sad hes not logging
proper roost
are a lot more people gonna log keys because of evoker
that would be fucking hilarious
dusky canopy
Inb4 key logging becomes meta
proper roost
ISH
proper roost
u have 2 characters!!
proper roost
Man.........
uneven mason
i got xiv raid tonight sadly :\
I'm shocked you got through the msq, literally worse than solo leveling a ranger in 1999
craggy pilot
everyone deleting Details and starting logging and just looking DPS after the key xD
chilly brook
I'm shocked you got through the msq, literally worse than solo leveling a ranger...
MSQ is fire tf
dusky canopy
everyone deleting Details and starting logging and just looking DPS after the ke...
Honestly I wouldn’t mind this, more focus on key not epeen size mid key
craggy pilot
Honestly I wouldn’t mind this, more focus on key not epeen size mid key
agree
just give us ingame version of "post key screen" that shows DPS after the key
and after a boss kill
dusky canopy
Although I’d miss that 900k opener in FH
craggy pilot
maybe make it show a time based graph of each persons DPS or some shit
"this guy did 900k dps on opener in FH"
dusky canopy
Yeah that me be kinda cool
uneven mason
I only run details for kick counters, the only epeen that matters
craggy pilot
I only run details for kick counters, the only epeen that matters
100%
craggy pilot
but also hovering over deaths and seeing what killed people (or me) is usefull
dusky canopy
Nome is an animal
craggy pilot
Nome is an animal
which animal?
dusky canopy
And then theirs the rest of us
craggy pilot
honestly the default wow UI is so close to being good, but i feel theyre fixing the wrong things for Keys/PvP
if they just did colourable nameplates based on threat/enemy type
pallid quiver
alright, ladies and gents, someone throw me at the best link for catchup if I skipped the season so far and am just getting back in
dusky canopy
They should just buy Weakauras and officially support it in the base game
craggy pilot
and a possibility of hiding different buffs/debuffs on nameplates etc
chilly brook
25 brackenhide
dusky canopy
And plater
craggy pilot
stuff like WA and Plater just has way too much options for the normal player
dusky canopy
Magic comp meta inbound
chilly brook
TLDR he’s contributing like 125k damage outside his own
Kinda nuts
Well dps not damage but you get it
craggy pilot
like if there was just a blacklist of buffs/debuffs to hide from nameplates/target frames
and then colourable nameplates based on threat or target type
that would make M+ way easier to the normal player
and PvP as well
crystal mauve
They should just buy Weakauras and officially support it in the base game
I think it would make it worst as they would not have as many people working on it and fixing it tbh
dusky canopy
Fair and tru ye
craggy pilot
I think it would make it worst as they would not have as many people working on ...
if they just implemented it, while making it open source
so whenever they had issues, randos could help
but that would require a shit ton of maintenance
crystal mauve
so whenever they had issues, randos could help
It’s getting into a delicate territory of people being able to modify game files and such, no? I’m no It guy but that seems close to opening doors we want to keep close
orchid mural
anyone know why i was able to upgrade my class trinket from Neltharion, recieved in raid, to 447, but not my beacon, also recieved in raid?
dusky canopy
Base ilvl has to be 441
craggy pilot
It’s getting into a delicate territory of people being able to modify game files...
nah they could have game files locked, but "base addons" be open source
shoudl be doable to have parts of the game open source, and parts not
but requires someone to sift through the public contributions ofc
dusky canopy
Nice how they widened the gap between heroic and mythic raiders with the new upgrade crest aye?
craggy pilot
isnt the new crest just making everything obtainable from M+?
didnt read much into it but thats what i heard
uneven mason
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
It's just 6ilvls
uneven mason
"rare"
craggy pilot
god damn i hate how casual Dorki sounds in his voice everytime he speaks even if hes doing fucking +26 🤣
he sounds like theres no issues in the world, its insane really ❤️
warm plinth
isnt the new crest just making everything obtainable from M+?
didnt read much in...
From vault, not from M+. M+ loot caps at 431 and it has to be 441 to be Myth track.
craggy pilot
From vault, not from M+. M+ loot caps at 431 and it has to be 441 to be Myth tr...
yea from vault +16 right?
warm plinth
Yes
chilly brook
time to log in and fix up my simp spec
warm plinth
Apparently my server is one of two that had issues preventing login 🙂
Which is why I couldn't get in earlier
lusty grotto
ive wait 2 times on sark lol
warm plinth
Also how the fuck does this happen
lusty grotto
i fucking hate myself
craggy pilot
Also how the fuck does this happen
WHAT HAHAHAHAHA
that is insane
"oops we fucked up guys tihi"
modern gazelle
gauntlet unironically hardest boss
warm plinth
chilly brook
<@133532617940140032> what are you maining these days?
my evoker
dusky canopy
It's just 6ilvls
I know it’s only 6 ilvls it just floors me that mythic raiders get special ilvl
I recognize it’s not a popular opinion
But is what it is
I don’t like it
warm plinth
They've gotten extra ilevel since like... start of SL or something
chilly brook
none cuz I took a few weeks off after I got pulled back into wotlk
but like I was doing 16s?
chilly brook
coming back after about 3 weeks or so
I could def do higher but mostly was limited by the group
warm plinth
what's your ilevel?
dusky canopy
Yeah ghash I’d like heroic to be the cap and I’d like M+ to give the same cap
That’s just me though
chilly brook
what's your ilevel?
bad 😦
warm plinth
I have no issues with it as long as it's a small amount
chilly brook
427 lol
warm plinth
Gotcha
chilly brook
honestly going to start getting back into retail somewhat seriously
warm plinth
That'd be cool
chilly brook
would like to get back into mythic
real thunder
For fortified weeks and if you wanted to keep SpellBlock, would you give up BatteringRam for Bloodsurge (more rage for more IPs) doing 22-23ish keys?
warm plinth
I was gonna ask you to help with the +20 we're shanghai'ing yogi into on Saturday but we'll probably need blasters for it
chilly brook
I am a blaster 😛
round pendant
define "blaster"
warm plinth
You'd give up bloodsurge
chilly brook
nah nah nah
warm plinth
idk someone capable of doing a 20
warm plinth
shit, let me know if you feel good with it by Saturday and we'll do it
chilly brook
I'm bad at pres but me would like to give Aug a big shot
warm plinth
I'll kick you for doing low damage though
It's the right thing to do
Augvoker needs to do 100k+ obviously
round pendant
???
warm plinth
Imagine caring about r.io at this point in the season. Everyone's playing fuckin alts. Just see if they've done the key on that level (or at least 1 below)
craggy pilot
For fortified weeks and if you wanted to keep SpellBlock, would you give up Batt...
check the pins, but yes its probably Bloodsurge in Tyr
round pendant
second boss of freehold, is there a pattern to where the little fucker jumps to?
or is it random
proper roost
random
i mean it's always far
maybe it's semi random i haven't really paid attention to it because its really braindead on warrior
craggy pilot
i always clear the patrol before doing 2nd boss FH
proper roost
literally just always leap behind it gg no grapeshots the end
craggy pilot
what a gamer
chilly brook
shit, let me know if you feel good with it by Saturday and we'll do it
already getting situated
proper roost
lusting 2nd boss is the ideal situation anyway
sick sentinel
craggy pilot
already getting situated
wait people actually use the default talent setup interface? 😮
chilly brook
wait people actually use the default talent setup interface? 😮
bro I honestly use a lot of default ui
craggy pilot
get the hammer control my man
chilly brook
it's functional enough
sick sentinel
which one
chilly brook
I dropped elvui as soon as they upgraded default ui
sick sentinel
therte is 3 under that
round pendant
yeah obv I can just leap behind the grapeshots
just wondering for my poor holy priest friends sake
lusty grotto
FUCK MY LIFE
proper roost
M+ is disabled lmao
proper roost
fucking NA beta testing patches for EU lmao
craggy pilot
each points gives you 1 skill in EVERY armor piece
sick sentinel
okay cool
craggy pilot
after you can do Poignant Plans, giving bunch of Inspiration
nimble sluice
I thought I read that Seal of Diura's was getting a nerf, yet still sims as my highest ring (against my 441s of all stat combos) is that right or raidbots not changed yet?
harsh light
any homies able to help me figure out what trinkets to use in M+?
I have 441 Heart of Thunder, 441 Treemouth splinter, or 441 Dreadplate, looking to figure out to use as a defensive trinket alongside Mark of Dragul
harsh light
sim does defense?
craggy pilot
Heart of Thunder not simmable tho
strong forum
treemouth is the better defensive trinket
more reliable
however
dreadplates is also insanely good defensively until a certain point
chilly brook
M+ is disabled lmao
what was the bug anyways?
strong forum
is the mega tldr
sick sentinel
my 437 heart i saw it hit for 135k to 142k
strong forum
heart does ~5k-6k dps in keys
harsh light
heart of thunder can do alot of damage
so for dam io should use mark and heart? im using mark and windscar now lol
strong forum
treemouth is a reliable absorb every 1.5min
sick sentinel
its the thing that sucks is that its a vers a item
craggy pilot
so for dam io should use mark and heart? im using mark and windscar now lol
Windscar from last season? XD
sick sentinel
so you lose dmg on abilities a bit, kinda
craggy pilot
aw man i remember when i was clowned for using Windscar because my loot RNG was dogshit
sick sentinel
str is better basically, if heart had main stat str instead of versa, would be perfect for me
harsh light
Windscar from last season? XD
it does more dam than the newer trinks i have, with less annoyance
strong forum
heart does more
harsh light
so splinter tho ultimately tho, for the couple keys where i feel like i need a extra defensive button
uneven mason
I know it’s only 6 ilvls it just floors me that mythic raiders get special ilvl
True, big cosmetics opportunity lost
chilly brook
wait people actually use the default talent setup interface? 😮
see me am mostly default andy
craggy pilot
i ran Splinter for keys where i feel i needed the extra Defensive CD for intensive bosses or mobs, something like Nelth wardens etc
craggy pilot
see me am mostly default andy
those are soem massive WAs for a default andy ❤️
harsh light
yeah wardens and lairs furys is places im thinking of using for extra defensive
chilly brook
well like I said "mostly"
craggy pilot
well like I said "mostly"
and you dont even show Nameplates here 😉
uneven mason
Basic + wa, the gentleman's ui
chilly brook
and you dont even show Nameplates here 😉
only enemy nameplates
uneven mason
Oh and plater
proper roost
the whole point is that the first 4 bosses only dropped 441 ilvl loot lmao
craggy pilot
only enemy nameplates
default?
uneven mason
Because blizz plates slurp butt
warm plinth
see me am mostly default andy
eh, nothing wrong w/ default as long as you aren't one of those no WAs/boss mods type of people
craggy pilot
maybe omnicd if doing high end shit idk
warm plinth
I played with a dude who didn't use any dungeon WAs or littlewigs
And just got hit by everything
chilly brook
eh, nothing wrong w/ default as long as you aren't one of those no WAs/boss mods...
definitely not that guy lmfao
craggy pilot
but man just buffs/debuffs being very hidden between a bunch of bloat is my biggest annoyance in M+
like i just wanna know when im hit by 10x bleed or when i have a 100% dps buff
instead i need to know whenever i have 9min left of sated permanently
chilly brook
I actually really like blizz's personal resource display
but they've never improved it
if you could attach certain spells to it it's be better than WAs for a lot of people imo
craggy pilot
that was 100% my point when i said they just need to do black/whitelist of buffs/debuffs
make it on personal resource display or something idk
but just a way to list what you want to show and not show
sudden sable
instead i need to know whenever i have 9min left of sated permanently
You can blacklist sated in elvui, thank God.
chilly brook
but just a way to list what you want to show and not show
also adding basic CD tracking as well
craggy pilot
Yea, and do the same on nameplates
guess im gonna try some Augvoker keys after tomorrows reset of EU
dusky canopy
the whole point is that the first 4 bosses only dropped 441 ilvl loot lmao
That’s besides the point
I would advocate for mythic to be cosmetic
Similar to ultimates in FF
strong forum
i kinda agree and not agree
cuz a large part of raiders do care about the loot from mythic
but the higher ranked guilds primarily care about the raiding itself
from what i can tell, could be wrong
dusky canopy
Correct the point of mythic is to flex that you can do it
It shouldn’t need a special ilvl imo
Just one opinion of many
strong forum
i dont disagree
dusky canopy
Nome you playing avoker?
sick sentinel
they changed alot of crap in this patch
strong forum
new dungeon
daring marlin
I believe that's from the time rift vendor
daring marlin
also would engi helm/bracers with mastery be bis for augvoker?
orchid mural
441 Forgestorm or 447 w/ haste vers. hmmm.
sick sentinel
is the 447 a crafted?
lusty grotto
does it matter?
sick sentinel
i don't think its worth dropping 6 weapon ilvl
lusty grotto
447 for keys 441 forge for raid according to my raidbots
sick sentinel
personally
orchid mural
i wonder if 447 forgestorm exists :p
modern gazelle
is there a trick to mochie?
i watched quazii guide
but she is still tough, phases go so fast, and add damage is bonkers
hollow yacht
So i have a spark and do not know what to craft. I have crafted a neck, belt, boots, and both rings. I no longer need a shield(got a 444 out of vault). Any suggestions?
sick sentinel
shield first
daring marlin
He can make the shield 447
hollow yacht
yeah, i need maybe 2 +16s and shield will be 447
sick sentinel
is 4 runs for me
hollow yacht
I do have a 428 weapon, but it's hero 1/5
hollow yacht
thanks my dude
sick sentinel
did they borkt'd m+ again
sick sentinel
omegalul
strong forum
Yeah last update I heard was M+ turned off
Pretty sure it's gonna take atleast 12hrs
daring marlin
Nooooooooooooooo
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdXoWTyK5MA 17 freehold key, this ones with the paladin healer
theres links to another key right after, with logs
dusky canopy
I mean do it for the fun
fluid beacon
whats that
dusky canopy
daring marlin
dont need to enter the new dungeon at all then for gear eh
uneven mason
I mean do it for the fun
Imagine doing hard content for cosmetics, because that's legit what this place screams at me, just a big source of old xmog
fluid beacon
good
dusky canopy
Imagine doing hard content for cosmetics, because that's legit what this place s...
Nah hard content for cosmetics is perfect!
Flex that you did it and others haven’t
fluid beacon
i saw a some short clips of the new bosses in the new dungeon.... idk but im getting league vibes with some of the animations and colors. the new UI buttons also are more colorful and cartoonish almost. league like
fluid beacon
na i joined them in wrath
lusty grotto
oh
fluid beacon
but i have some of those OGs still in here
lusty grotto
they were in arthas in wotlk
lusty grotto
if you see any OG tell them Sold Out says hi
fluid beacon
ryan is in disc, chicken too
they just joined the disc again recently for D4
im the GM there since legion though
kitiff was raiding until recently too. he was here since vanilla lol
lusty grotto
nice
fluid beacon
supa smoll
torn gulch
Not upgradeable kinda sus though
I think all the items at the time rift vendore are veteran 402
and upgradeable
warm plinth
ah okay
lusty grotto
well tbf we had to transfer off in TBC to mal'ganis
cause the server was just so fucking loaded raiding was just ass with server network problems
during AQ/Naxx
fluid beacon
ah. that long ago i was still a CSS nerd lol
fluid beacon
and then we xferred to BDF and back to Arthas
daring marlin
I think all the items at the time rift vendore are veteran 402
not even champion
fluid beacon
there, message was relayed
daring marlin
for shame
torn gulch
yes i have confirmation fron wowhead guide
that all items from vendor are 1/8 veteran 402
that go to 424
lusty grotto
tell them Medalla (the og SO GM) still plays with me but hes all over, he has a god prevoker named Gorddy
torn gulch
i think that's enough for alt started gear
fluid beacon
i just did. if you ever wanted to talk to them they are in this disc. jsut lmk and i send you an invite
lusty grotto
https://raider.io/characters/us/thrall/Gorddi thats Medalla, he runs keys with us sometimes
lusty grotto
i just did. if you ever wanted to talk to them they are in this disc. jsut lmk a...
word
modern gazelle
any tips on final boss of new dungeon?
im getting deleted by tank buster and adds
popping cds right before tank buster to mitigate but even with shield wall up im getting obliterated at 437ilvl
modern gazelle
its the tank buster dot after the first ball hits and causes me to take 400% damage
south zealot
r keys working yet
uneven mason
its the tank buster dot after the first ball hits and causes me to take 400% dam...
The debuff only affects the damage from the nova itself, don't let more than one go off within 5s of eachother
But also don't let one go off just before he blows chunks in your mug
modern gazelle
i just took 500k from a temporal breath
after i had already eaten like 4 temporal breaths
im running out of CDs for these lol and i dont mean 4 ticks of the dot
i mean 4 breaths and then one randomly did 500k
and i was in def stance
uneven mason
Huh let me check this tooltip
daring marlin
gomen
uneven mason
i mean 4 breaths and then one randomly did 500k
Your right lol the tooltip says infinity nova, but the spell data is literally just "arcane"
#whatitlookslikewhenyoufireallyourQA
modern gazelle
idk what to do to tank this im literally just dying cause its too much damage
uneven mason
It's probably a timing issue, but 500k should be livable just feeling like this is a "healer press button" moment like we had on the AA bird
modern gazelle
well i swapped to ST Spellblock build and got it 50k but the keepers ended up deleting me lol
daring marlin
Mirror 1% upgrade for me
uneven mason
Sounds appropriately difficult
daring marlin
uneven mason
Mirror 1% upgrade for me
modern gazelle
so has anyone beat the last boss?
and has tips, cause its just a stupid amount of damage coming in, im trying to time my cds, im playing in defensive stance, but its literally deleting me
round pendant
bro my primordial ring does shit tons of damage in m+
it feels absolutely awful dropping it for a normal ring
my crutch 😢
lusty grotto
its dead everywhere
glacial skiff
sadge
round pendant
it got taken out back
glacial skiff
i dont have tank rings lmao
south zealot
wdym tank rings
glacial skiff
just crit/haste ones for arms D:
round pendant
that's ok you don't need tank-anything
south zealot
thats what i use
round pendant
crit/haste is bis
glacial skiff
versss
round pendant
just eat a tepid vers flask
daring marlin
🤝
mighty valley
you should have to sign a document vouching that you understand that vers is not a magic tank stat before you're allowed to post
uncut thunder
Is M+ still disabled?
uncut thunder
Dang was hoping to crank out a hand full of 16s so I could craft a ring oh well
uneven mason
It's a pp slap
daring marlin
there's a bug?
The bug was people completing dungeons in 5 mins
by like
zoning in and out, apparently
uneven mason
kinda fucks
Unless you're bdk, but are we shocked
round pendant
fascinating
hazy bronze
You mean that +31 isn't legit?
modern gazelle
still struggling on last boss, either i die or everyone else dies at transition
has anyone here beat the final boss of new dungeon?
round pendant
I just appreciate that this dungeon has varied colours
and is bright
and not some dank cave/dungeon/whatever
toxic pewter
still struggling on last boss, either i die or everyone else dies at transition
I beat him
daring marlin
classic apb
proper roost
apb is a certified owner
toxic pewter
classic apb
I mean just cuz I find the dungeon dissapointing doesn't mean I won't do it lmao
daring marlin
I didn't say you wouldn't do it!
toxic pewter
oh I misunderstood
toxic pewter
has anyone here beat the final boss of new dungeon?
what part of the transition is not going well for you
be sure to let him do his frontal before you chase after the 2 mobs that spawn
modern gazelle
what part of the transition is not going well for you
we finally got him to 12% we were dying when he flies up every time when 2 keepers spawned
toxic pewter
ya
modern gazelle
i havent even been chasing mobs, letting everyone else deal with it cause i can barely live
toxic pewter
yeah be sure you take spell block, I also took defender's aegis for another shield wall
proper roost
ok now i can do it on my waryur @daring marlin
modern gazelle
can you share your build?
proper roost
🙂
modern gazelle
i have sb on but the cds are slim pickings
its like im barely getting them back up in between frontals
toxic pewter
ill whisper u what I ran sure
toxic pewter
basically did a raid single target build
modern gazelle
basically did a raid single target build
i have my raid st build with sb on lol
modern gazelle
we mighta just fucked up a lot
moochie was tough, and final boss are tough
mortal strike boss was a bit tough but we 2 shot it
toxic pewter
i have my raid st build with sb on lol
fair enough, I suggest getting another shield wall if u want to try it and be sure take spell block
proper roost
pretty sure thats nerfed like tomorrow
modern gazelle
turn off nameplates and find her easier, also the way adds spawn is important, they spawn where she first casts the ability, then they are always where they got traped
toxic pewter
also be sure u using defensive stance
modern gazelle
fair enough, I suggest getting another shield wall if u want to try it and be su...
i have shield wall as well
toxic pewter
for the frontals
proper roost
i'm not 100% sure if
toxic pewter
need bolster
proper roost
i'm supposed to be doing 100k hps on every fight lol
daring marlin
Not having anvil is super annoying tbh
toxic pewter
put battering ram back on and drop enduring alacrity
and that is basically similar build I killed him with
modern gazelle
k thanks
south zealot
did a nice pull in raid
sick sentinel
its gunna take time getting used to new chennling and tageting cions over spells
all kinds of action bar updates i ssee
crude notch
i've returned from the movies and bears are solo'ing +31 HoIs???
((Yes I'm aware it's a bug))
proper roost
did you enjoy the movie
daring marlin
no bug bear just that op
dusky canopy
BIG BEAR
toxic pewter
into the ground bear must go
dusky canopy
bear leaving hibernation
proper roost
so
for some reason i thought you could socket gloves
so i took a socket but i have literally nothing to use it on except a 441 5/5 tier helm
dusky canopy
if you play wotlk you can
toxic pewter
pop it in helm
proper roost
crude notch
immortal denos drops myth gear????
daring marlin
wat
proper roost
all of the bosses do
it's all 437 4/5 myth gear
my shaman got like 5 pieces actually it was nuts lol
(they all sucked)
crude notch
oh last boss drops 441
crude notch
thanks guilford at least someone reads wowhead
proper roost
need to go take my preraid nap i'm sleepy
crude notch
smh my helmet
proper roost
ok so the only upgrades
from the first few bosses of mythic for me
are catalyze helm and anvil
think i'm gonna wait on the helm socket
crude notch
are keys still down?
dusky canopy
Tank/heals optional
daring marlin
damn it
proper roost
yea mage is pretty insane rn
proper roost
are keys still down?
still disabled
just checked
whats a fast way to get a single spark
as catchup
modern gazelle
FYI on final boss, i learned you can out range the tank buster with heroic leap
so that can save you a ton of damage
crude notch
you be looking good
dusky canopy
proper roost
no
waxen orbit
I take it if you got Windfury combo'd with Mark of Dargrul the melee procs go insane
(my situation)
proper roost
also no
waxen orbit
Oh nice the melee's from it don't proc Mark?
dusky canopy
hey what was that pvp weekly thing i can do for my spark half
waxen orbit
I mean not always been the case
waxen orbit
Got it
proper roost
like 99.999% of shit in the game
crude notch
wait that means heckin mirror can be upgraded to 447
waxen orbit
like 99.999% of shit in the game
No need to get like that dawg was just a question
proper roost
yeaaa
its super toxic actually to require 0 deaths
0 wipes, actually reasonable and still hard
i think
0 deaths, kinda cringe
waxen orbit
I told bears they'd be OP from their tier set before this patch dropped
They called me a madman
And I'm right again
crude notch
That's not why they're OP
waxen orbit
proper roost
:icant:
crude notch
So you're still a madman
waxen orbit
You're actually delusional
dusky canopy
Thwumper no thwumping
crude notch
Please cease talking
waxen orbit
Literally give it one week
waxen orbit
The slinging pseudo-intellectual terms over a video game is wild
south zealot
i mean their tier set is good
but they are op bc they are a second healer
with no downsides to other tanks
waxen orbit
^
south zealot
and they have vers buff
crude notch
Don't hurt yourself with that backpedal
waxen orbit
Not a backpedal
It has been implied that bear has better utility and offheals than other tanks with the exception of prot pal since the dawn of M+
My not saying that isn't backpedaling kekw
crude notch
lol
crude notch
I told bears they'd be OP from their tier set
proceeds to list other actual reasons they're op
waxen orbit
Jesus Christ you people are dickriders
crude notch
Sorry I only ride things I can see.
waxen orbit
The rash you're giving me says otherwise
waxen orbit
No idea
First time actually talking in this disc legitimately in several months
And it's a PVP-enabled zone
Glad to see shit ain't changed
modern gazelle
BEAT IT!!!!!
invited some pumpers, had a 431 heal before and invited a 443 along with higher dps and we one shot it
lusty grotto
beat what
modern gazelle
new dungeon
serene steppe
Beat my meat
modern gazelle
last boss was kicking ass for a bit
lusty grotto
sir, im officer nimchip right now
waxen orbit
Beat my meat
🫡
dusky canopy
I logged into wow M+ is disabled
crude notch
And it's a PVP-enabled zone
You've stated falsehoods multiple times and are in turn saying we're the problems for calling you out on it?
waxen orbit
You've stated falsehoods multiple times and are in turn saying we're the problem...
Where was the falsehood
Tell me with a straight face that if bear did not have this tier set
They'd be anywhere near where they are right now
crude notch
They'd be exactly where they are right now
waxen orbit
Like basic class utility is a piece of nuance I figured people were able to remember
Didn't think I had to handhold every single minute point
Shit's wild
waxen orbit
People are casually forgetting that HotW offhealing was a thing
waxen orbit
Chronically online
crude notch
HotW