I had like 1900-2100s applying for my 20s last night 
#protection
warm plinth
dusky canopy
We as puggers are to smart now
jagged pier
proper roost
i'm convinced that's what it is, it's people who only have like +15s done
complaining that they're never accepted to 20s
jagged pier
it is alot of the time
daring marlin
work your way up, peasants
dusky canopy
https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582
Shhh don’t make to much noise or you might scare it off
jagged pier
dont forget 20s is like top 7% or 6% or somthing
daring marlin
I'm good enough for 20s! Just gimme a chance!
jagged pier
its tiny amount of pppl
proper roost
they don't want to hear the uncomfortable truth that all you have to do is list your own key and u can easily just get carried the whole way
or play non dps
jagged pier
thats too much effort
daring marlin
People are kinda dumb anyway. My DK is...423? I guess? People don't sign up for the keys I post or decline me. shrug
Pugging is fuckin' weird.
proper roost
ye the gear curve being giga steep is weird
harsh trellis
I like to go into low keys to see the different type of drama unfold.
dusky canopy
I mean hey from a pug perspective I sympathize a little bit right like I’m more than capable of doing 21s-22s but good luck getting into one takes 20-30minutes per invite
But that being said
proper roost
cannot relate just play a healer
proper roost
literally instant invite to any 20-22s
daring marlin
Healers definitely have the free in this patch.
proper roost
at 430 i was getting insta invites into 20s it was glorious
completely getting carried too cuz i sucked
warm plinth
I don't even apply to groups on my alts anymore unless they already have a healer
It's bad right now
proper roost
it's so easy now that they've nerfed it so many times too
lusty grotto
ok kanga where apply
lusty grotto
i do help cause staring at this log output is driving me crazy
dusky canopy
Just turn on that old premade group filter “minimum healers 1”
crude notch
😳
sick sentinel
Master's Hammmer macro:
/use item:201366 Masters hammer:
/use 17 (shield)
/use item:201366
/use 16 (weapon)
Repeat for 1, 3, 5-10 for each armor tree you have put 30 points into
crude notch
add me
sick sentinel
confirmed it works
sick sentinel
just spam the button and it claims it fizzeld, but it repairs them
dusky canopy
Hasn’t dmd once
warm plinth
@sick sentinel you ready to tank a +20 this coming week?
sick sentinel
no lol
daring marlin
yogi
warm plinth
we gonna do it
crude notch
there now you can't say i didn't dm you
proper roost
YOGI PLEASE
warm plinth
I'm taking yogi to a +20 next week
dusky canopy
GUYS
warm plinth
And we will succeed
dusky canopy
Sylvannas in my DMs
proper roost
let me heal you yogi please
warm plinth
volcanic spiteful next week too, ez fucking game
warm plinth
hm?
toxic pewter
are bears considered good damage tanks in raid
dusky canopy
Let’s gooo
warm plinth
yes
dusky canopy
Fuck ya
toxic pewter
cuz a guardian owning in this heroic atm
dusky canopy
warm plinth
2nd behind VDH I believe
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
he did 90k on magmorax
proper roost
bears get fucked a bit by the magic dots and shit tho don't they? like thats the main thing in raid
warm plinth
@sick sentinel Better get mentally prepped. This is happening!
toxic pewter
like i did 77k and i was pressing my buttons as good as i can lol
proper roost
ok i still need 2 more keys after this
wtb dps
or like 4 tanks
that would also own
warm plinth
Bears have a lot of uptime on their DR. Magic is fine
vocal nimbus
@strong forum the 3% dmg thingy applies to forgestorm?
south zealot
i'm convinced that's what it is, it's people who only have like +15s done
this guy who had a couple untimed 18s and stuff applied to my 23 hoi
dusky canopy
Yeah look at nomes screenshot above
daring marlin
this guy who had a couple untimed 18s and stuff applied to my 23 hoi
bruh 
people be wildin'
dusky canopy
Maybe it’s just me but I like to go up 1 key level at a time for all keys right
So like now that all my 21s are done
I’ll start doing 22s
south zealot
dude somehow i died to the frog boss
crude notch
people just don't get that
daring marlin
That's how it should be, yes.
south zealot
i think i hit 10 stacks but i didnt even know that was possible
vocal nimbus
Yeah look at nomes screenshot above
cant find it :V
dusky canopy
where when
I’m totally joking btw don’t take bad advice
Pogstorm owns
Nome just had bad procs
In his SS
south zealot
fuckin owned
vocal nimbus
im just wondering if i should change my 441 forgestorm with a crafted 447
daring marlin
decimated
dusky canopy
im just wondering if i should change my 441 forgestorm with a crafted 447
So iirc 447 can be better in multi
It hasn’t been discussed in a while
south zealot
soemone told me 441 normal is better than 441 forgestorm in aoe
dusky canopy
To my knowledge that was the conclusion of the discussion
south zealot
and im an overall padder so irefuse to farm itr
modern gazelle
just asked for someone to craft me something and this dude tells me to send it to Wet
vocal nimbus
ye forgestorm loses on aoe
proper roost
lmao the dps
modern gazelle
how the hell was that not taken before TBC
warm plinth
Are you on some deadge realm or something
daring marlin
Shoulda waited for me
modern gazelle
nah, mal'ganis
dusky canopy
@modern gazelle what server
daring marlin
smh my head
dusky canopy
Wow
warm plinth
dang
south zealot
couldve bought the name
crude notch
It hasn’t been discussed in a while
it's definitely been discussed
dusky canopy
On MG
crude notch
it's inconsistent
dusky canopy
“In a while”
crude notch
we're forgestorm haters in this chat
dusky canopy
That I have seen
modern gazelle
couldve bought the name
dont feel like buying names was popular in tbc
daring marlin
We sorta discussed it like
south zealot
oh hes saying he got the name in tbc
daring marlin
...4 days ago?
dusky canopy
I own the name dorito
south zealot
my bad
dusky canopy
Anybody buying?
modern gazelle
thats not bad
dusky canopy
Jk btw classic doesn’t count
dusky canopy
Yeah it’s wildly in consistent
daring marlin
Pisstorm
dusky canopy
Me no likey
daring marlin
throw that shit in the trash
strong forum
<@192743144276623360> the 3% dmg thingy applies to forgestorm?
yeah
has to do over 3% of your dmg to be a gain
dusky canopy
3% is the general number for stats lost from proc items correct?
strong forum
well just from the loss of str
warm plinth
has to do over 3% of your dmg to be a gain
you do over 3% of my damage 
Trinkets give more main stat than 1h weapons
warm plinth
447 1h weapon is like 317 main stat. trinkets are like 500something
My 437 trinket has 550
south zealot
441 weapon 300 441 trinket 570
dusky canopy
So basically any trinket I use better do at least like 5% overall
Otherwise str loss isn’t worth
warm plinth
yeah basically
dusky canopy
Btw ghash Gz on becoming staff btw just noticed that
warm plinth
Kinda crazy how much more shadowflame does for me on rogue than it does for you guys
dusky canopy
I dunno man that shadowflame do go dumby sometimes
warm plinth
Oh, thanks. It's not really new though. I've been staff a few times and had to step down for various reasons
I basically just ask to be staff and I get it at this point 😅
warm plinth
Oh I'm dumb
I don't use shadowflame on rogue; it's the boots
Look at the damage of these things
fuckin dumb
south zealot
I don't use shadowflame on rogue; it's the boots
dusky canopy
south zealot
yeah toxic boots crank
dusky canopy
We give a pass
south zealot
warm plinth
what is that
south zealot
my insane weapon
south zealot
nah from amalgamation chamber
orchid mural
uh. u can reflect all of them
crude notch
(:
rigid badge
I have a question about Rend
I see so many people skill it, but I don't see anybody using it in his Rotation so I don't understand why to skill it? Or does anybody of you use it in his Rotation?
rigid badge
Ah ok now I get it! Thank you!
crude notch
nah today has taught me not to trust any of you
i trusted arth, then i trust nome, then i trusted ghash. All betrayed me.
rigid badge
I have one more question
Does it make sense to use Spell Block for Experiments (4th Raidboss)
It is pretty much magical damage there. Is there a difference between magical damage and "Spells" which is mentioned in the talent?
rigid badge
So it's useless for this Boss?
lusty grotto
i was laughing at the rogue
proper roost
think i need a smoke and a drink
dusky canopy
Do tell
lusty grotto
literally got hit by everything
south token
hey fellas
dusky canopy
Yoo
south token
is my warrior good enough for 16+ ?
rigid badge
but does very little
Thank you!
dusky canopy
No you need at least 1 more stat
proper roost
and i was just kind of dumbfounded spam healing him
lusty grotto
some carry was done on nelth, but my dps fucking blows 😢
south token
No you need at least 1 more stat
im serious
crude notch
is my warrior good enough for 16+ ?
more than good enough.
proper roost
mild carrying happened
crude notch
i mean what's your io
south token
on my dps its 2.3
proper roost
ok i need 15 minutes and then i can knock out the other 2
lusty grotto
was fun though
dusky canopy
They should accept
proper roost
this is like the only time i can do keys because i have raid later
lusty grotto
hmm i cant until 6 est
dusky canopy
Might have to apply for a bit
lusty grotto
got a few meetings now
proper roost
ok i will wait an hour
orchid mural
i trusted arth, then i trust nome, then i trusted ghash. All betrayed me.
how did i betray ya
south token
Might have to apply for a bit
let me ask u something
do you use 2 shadowflames embelishments or 1 shadowflame + 1 belt
like me
lusty grotto
dunno if people will accept you, hard to say
dusky canopy
I use 2x
daring marlin
Arth is a wise old man
lusty grotto
but you can do 16s easily
daring marlin
Like Todu
dusky canopy
However
daring marlin
Also his tenacity is unmatched
dusky canopy
It’s pretty inconsequential
daring marlin
idk how he stomachs the amount of pugging he does
orchid mural
oh holy shit - you are guilford lol
lusty grotto
Todu the guardian of #ui-addons-manager
orchid mural
sorry, stupid statement
daring marlin
LMAO
lusty grotto
just spam apply
daring marlin
👋
lusty grotto
one will eventually invite you
if you dont do good, you learn and do better next time
rinse repeat
crude notch
you got discord today?
daring marlin
nimchip
crude notch
hmm
daring marlin
adin
proper roost
ok are you coming to me and nim's key in an hour @crude notch
daring marlin
BUT WHY
proper roost
preraid nap (not ironic)
proper roost
it's ok we can do the megadungeon together
daring marlin
shit's gonna be hype
south token
what is a megadungeon ?
daring marlin
yup
south token
but do you get like special loot on it ?
lusty grotto
like you know how theres bytes
and then kilo bytes are 1000 bytes
and then mega bytes are 1000 kilobytes
sick sentinel
lusty grotto
so effectively 1000000 bytes
sick sentinel
i mean, i dont mind
lusty grotto
why you guys hating on rag
lusty grotto
just speak spanish
dusky canopy
Literal god disc gamer
I met years ago
Transferred from Rag
His reason
“People don’t invite rag”
lusty grotto
feelsbadman
proper roost
that's really common i think
like a lot of br players intentionally transfer out of brazilian realms when they start getting serious because of the stigma
so i've met a ton of br players on NA servers scattered here and there (and a few full guilds!) because the servers themselves get a bad community rep
daring marlin
I knew a killer rsham
He was from rag, transferred to A52 for the same reason
but he also said people on rag are dog
🤷♂️
daring marlin
I've invited some sick rag players
proper roost
like how brain drain happens irl lol
if the stigma is that good players aren't there, good players will leave, etc, perpetuates
but a lot of brazilian players i've talked to think it's mainly an availability of info thing
like class discords are all in english and if you're not fluent it's def very difficult to navigate, since even native english speakers have difficulty sifting through the info on class discs
daring marlin
like class discords are all in english and if you're not fluent it's def very di...
There's a reason for that
south token
whats wrong with rag ?
daring marlin
😏
proper roost
or guides are often written pretty obtusely since guide writers are chosen for their aptitude at the game or tc or whatever, not their writing skills
warm plinth
I tweeted at wowhead a few days ago saying they should really consider hiring translators for their guides so they're more accessible
warm plinth
wdym, they do
proper roost
they... do but they don't
it's complicated
the editors aren't checking for whether the information is fully comprehensible
or like guides are equivalent in writing skill, or the complexities of each spec are explained fully
ime they mostly just check for extremely big mistakes or big formatting errors
warm plinth
Well, that's not something you can really avoid. These guys aren't professional writers.
south token
as a new played who has been playing for 2 months my problems with the game is that its overly complicated, you require a shit ton of addons and third part websites to play the game at an acceptable level and the community is terrible
proper roost
yeah that's what I mean, that kind of makes hte translation thing difficult since translating normally is difficult already
translating bad or confusing technical writing is REALLY difficult
warm plinth
The game is only complicated on the surface. Once you get the hang of the general aspects of it, it gets a lot easier to adjust to the other shit
dusky canopy
like a lot of br players intentionally transfer out of brazilian realms when the...
My homies from Argentina
warm plinth
And you can play the game with basically no addons other than DBM/BigWigs
Maybe WeakAuras
south token
i disagree man, i have like 40 addons instaled, on top of weak auras, and on top of that i still require to go to third party websites like raidbots and whatever
its too much
warm plinth
I mean you don't need those though
proper roost
also I am saying "they" but i'm pretty sure the DF writers only really have maybe one or two editors looking over the entirety of each guide
warm plinth
I've been playing for 17 years and I don't even think I have 40 addons installed haha
proper roost
with a few more staffers overhead
as far as i'm aware, both classic and df freelancing process is very similar
south token
not to mention that if you start the game fresh without any friends who already play you have a really hard time
proper roost
from what i've talked to with the df writers anyway
south token
everything turns 10 times as hard
waxen frigate
Starting fresh solo seem insane
dusky canopy
Ok the simplest way to play wow is to install a boss timer addon I use bigwigs, you need Weakauras they’re invaluable, and lastly a damage meter so you can flex E peen
south token
yep
warm plinth
I have 16 addons that have an impact on gameplay. The other 10 or so are QoL/aesthetic shit
waxen frigate
Too complex
dusky canopy
Nothing else is required
waxen frigate
Going in with a guild though
dusky canopy
Also raidbots isn’t required
waxen frigate
Big difference
dusky canopy
Equip highest ilvl
south token
i wouldnt recommend to anyone to start this game like i did without knowing anyone who plays
its really really hard
waxen frigate
Agreed
crude notch
if you start a massively MULTIPLAYER online game solo it's a bit much
who would've known
crude notch
you disagree with what?
lusty grotto
it is non new player friendly, Blizzard has tried their best but its just not enough
crude notch
me saying what you said?
dusky canopy
Wow is known for not being new player friendly
south token
not to mention that ff14 community is about 2000x as better and friendly to new players
crude notch
i literally repeated what you said
lusty grotto
ffxiv is also solo player friendly though
crude notch
and you said "i disagree"
lusty grotto
they have shifted in that direction
crude notch
You disagree with yourself
south token
ffxiv is also solo player friendly though
yep
lusty grotto
but thats only recently
crude notch
i was going to say
warm plinth
FFXIV is also a game that came out 6 years after WoW, so they had newer technology and they could learn from what WoW had already done and could see what worked and what didn't
crude notch
ffxiv was never solo new player friendly any time i played it
lusty grotto
ffxiv community is nice when you do everything else thats not high level content, once you hit that... it's not much different than this one
daring marlin
not to mention that ff14 community is about 2000x as better and friendly to new ...
Not entirely true. XIV community is toxic in a different way.
lusty grotto
yeah jordan they shifted with the expansion
with trusts
so you can do dungeons with trusts instead of other people
proper roost
the toxic positivity of ffxiv community is a little overblown
lusty grotto
can kinda learn that way really, its a solid system
proper roost
it's just because the competitive scene there is a bubble
a very, very small bubble
proper roost
it is kinda really funny tbh that you can't make any remotely negative performance based comments there
lusty grotto
the amount of times ive seen some shit in PF on savage reclears, basically made me stop doing PF and just wait on my shit static to clear
daring marlin
fuck yeah bud lol
lusty grotto
i have enough shit in wow, i dont want it on 2 different games
the way i look at it, ffxiv is my time off
proper roost
imo blizz community just has a bunch of really weird giga addicts
who are in deep denial
lusty grotto
its a breath of fresh air before i dip in, i dont want to deal with toxic shit on both games
proper roost
and that kinda shifts the tone a lot
lusty grotto
my static are dumb as fuck, but they are funny so i have a good time
daring marlin
good
lusty grotto
and we still clear tiers albeit late
crude notch
lmao
proper roost
how about that t1 news though
crude notch
jesus
proper roost
truck stonks are UP!
crude notch
implosion
south token
in my experient it have been very hard to find a guild or people to play with
proper roost
they heard about the sub and thought the news was supposed to be about their org
south token
experience*
lusty grotto
in my experient it have been very hard to find a guild or people to play with
theres a lot of players so it will take time
daring marlin
in my experient it have been very hard to find a guild or people to play with
Plenty looking for new players. There's a looking for guild tab even.
lusty grotto
just keep trying as best as you can
also if youre applying to content guilds, keep in mind
usually guilds do not look for tanks
proper roost
its good tbh (gigacopium) maybe t1 will rebuild and actually learn to be a good team by being underdogs, instead of a giga overhyped team that fumbles at the finish line three times in a row
crude notch
reality is the way the internet is designed enables toxicity at it's core, there's largely no consequence of you saying some dumb shit, whereas in real life you'd get punched in the mouth.
south token
usually guilds do not look for tanks
oh
lusty grotto
yeah but jordan, its bleeding through
south token
that might be why then
crude notch
also what are you doing to actively look for a guild
if you're sitting around waiting for it to just happen, well
south token
no i made a few posts on wow groups
modern gazelle
what key level should you clear adds past 1st boss on underrot before going back?
lusty grotto
yeah that might be a good idea if youre interested in raiding with a guild, go dps then slowly change to tank if the slot opens
proper roost
You mean 2nd boss?
crude notch
i also feel like you'd benefit from joining wowmadeeasy.
proper roost
Always
crude notch
modern gazelle
2nd boss yeah mb
proper roost
Always wait for lust to be up to pull cragmaw
proper roost
Even if it means pulling third boss second
modern gazelle
what are you lusting before krag>
proper roost
Including wait for lust to be FULLY off cd
because lust on pull is way way way better than lust any time later on cragmaw due to the fight mechanics
lusty grotto
ohhhh i see
crude notch
first time i hear of it
toxic-free uh community that helps enable climbing in a free breathing area
modern gazelle
its a discord for non toxic people very helpful
proper roost
Ur first lust can either be first pack or first boss but first pack is like 99.999% better even on tyr because u get a third lust on last boss (also the only other hard part) and first boss is a joke
lusty grotto
nice
i had one ummm
perky pugs?
i used to just hop on whatever was posted there
modern gazelle
there is also one for EU players called No Pressure
dusky canopy
Yeah I checked it out it’s nice for newer players for sure
They do not allow any bullshit
You’ll just get removed
lusty grotto
thats cool
modern gazelle
i was able to get geared quick cause of WME made it wasy easier getting groups going and raiding without guild
crude notch
they do community raids too which is especially nice if you're new
lusty grotto
SO THATS WHAT WME MEANS
daring marlin
nimchip
crude notch
honestly the guild thing is so archaic
lusty grotto
ive seen it in keys and was like whtat the fuck
modern gazelle
yeah if you see WME in dungeon finder you need to be in WME to join, groups dont let you in otherwise, usually you have to type a password to join
crude notch
he was like yogi thought it meant warmode enabled
proper roost
lmao
lusty grotto
so like perky pugs
dusky canopy
Yeah you put the password in your note
lusty grotto
im glad those communities exist
modern gazelle
its worth joining, people are chill and ive found the m+ players better than randos usually
proper roost
dusky canopy
A lot of decent players hangout in there because they don’t want to deal with the shit brains that cry about every little thing you do wrong
Witch is the most common +16 key doer
daring marlin
mf is blepping
lusty grotto
yeah that's cool
daring marlin
NEED WATER
lusty grotto
mlem
crude notch
i'm hungy
proper roost
I had a big ol lunch
crude notch
what was it today guilford? chicken and what
proper roost
had a buncha korean food was dope
daring marlin
🐔 🍚 🍅
proper roost
probably justified tbh
crude notch
probably justified tbh
rood
toxic pewter
oops wrong chat
daring marlin
apb has spoken
toxic pewter
yes
daring marlin
🌮
toxic pewter
me hungry
sick sentinel
dont play underrot? okay deal
under rot is free too, yeah, for brain havers
im not one
modern brook
freehold is a a picnic
Freehold has more failure points than ur
Even for brainhavers
daring marlin
hell yeah
proper roost
that means you're ok doing a FH 20 with ghash later this week right yogi
daring marlin
I want in on that
sick sentinel
i am more relaxe in any dungeon than i am in FH
i have zero fears about that dungeon
modern gazelle
you guys ever talkent intervene?
sick sentinel
the only thing that scares me, is i don't know which stuff is a literal 1 shot 100-0% hp
on 20
modern brook
you guys ever talkent intervene?
It's in a rough spot and there aren't a lot of use cases to justify the point loss, you'd sacrifice a cc talent for it, likely int shout
proper roost
some seasons its really good and some seasons it does nothing
this season it does n
well u could maybe take it for fort UR but eh???
u kinda want intim shout instead for that trash
sick sentinel
i can riemeber why i do left after cragmaw on the trash to 3rd boss
modern gazelle
im pretty bad about using intim shout lol i am always worried the fear will push mobs to more packs
sick sentinel
instead of go right, i think its to do with theres a guy that CAN cast a fear and if's not kicked someone butt aggros left side
and id just rather not deal with any fear atall there
lime urchin
you guys ever talkent intervene?
I think I saw Sense intervening on chain boss in Neltharus
proper roost
the fear should never fear anything
its not classic, every dps has a lot of tick or aoe dmg that would instabreak it
modern gazelle
ah true
proper roost
Also none of those mobs social to cragmaw anyway
modern gazelle
nah i meant in general with intim shout
modern gazelle
bro i do like 500g
proper roost
and it costs literally nothing for the enchanter and everyone has it lol
modern gazelle
and its insta completed
proper roost
its extremely common
sick sentinel
thats the recommended auto-fill btw
warm plinth
I do like 5k on crests
sick sentinel
i don't have to have it crafted, i craft my self
modern gazelle
mine doesnt auto fill weird
but either way, 500g for any crest max
usually i pay like 2k for gear piees
there are plenty of crafters that work cheap
sick sentinel
well that was fast
dusky canopy
People are looking to fill orders for free all the time because they need skill ups
Just be patient
And find one of those
proper roost
its a VERY common drop and has like 50 skill req
dusky canopy
Don’t get robbed for a button click
proper roost
and also the aspect crest crafting
is the cheapest way to level ench
to like 95 or something i think
modern gazelle
i only public the enchanted crests
otherwise personal for gear
takes 3s to post in trade chat and find a good enchanter that will max it for dirt cheap
strong forum
public orders for crests get filled almost instantly
crude notch
pogg
sick sentinel
is VP first boss adds can be solved by the group forms an inward facing star/pentagram?
since u have to have the adds looked at
proper roost
Yeah, its not that complicated though
you only really need two people on opposite ends looking
sick sentinel
they nuked my party last time i attempted it, more scared of 2nd boss withvines
warm plinth
Yeah as long as you have a person on each side you shouldn't have any problems
You don't have to be scared of 2nd boss. The tornado knock-up will break entangling
warm plinth
got that shield ready for the 20 next week 
sick sentinel
no repair bill truly is the best experience
proper roost
He's choccin
south zealot
so much easier on tyran than fortified
proper roost
so much easier on tyran than fortified
sick sentinel
i reccomend you smiths try it
south zealot
yeah man its push week
south zealot
<:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
tanking it is easier on tyran *
sick sentinel
now if i fail a key, all im out is whaever i paid for the flask and food and maybe a rune
warm plinth
I don't think that's a particularly weird take
It's certainly easier as a tank to do tyrannical keys
proper roost
tanking it is easier on tyran *
Oh
yeah
south zealot
if u fuck up on fortified some packs u get FUCKED
dusky canopy
Yeah you plan for 3-5 hard parts not 30
south zealot
like if u get chomped or have a custodian bite on u on fort
sick sentinel
its more soul crushing on tyranical bosses
proper roost
i think tanking tyr is basically always easier this season on pwar
dusky canopy
Tyr way easier
proper roost
because the tank nuke bosses can all be SR lol
south zealot
its push week
warm plinth
Okay I need to ask you guys
sick sentinel
hes just killed the healer
proper roost
like, dargrul on tyr on a non pwar, REALLY scary actually
south zealot
yes
warm plinth
And do you pull it back to the top room?
south zealot
like, dargrul on tyr on a non pwar, REALLY scary actually
prot warriors payphone time
south zealot
And do you pull it back to the top room?
no i just pull them all on the stairs and walk down
warm plinth
like, dargrul on tyr on a non pwar, REALLY scary actually
It's pretty chill on ppal too
south zealot
you can leap through and run back up if you run out of room
warm plinth
You have a CD for every crash
south zealot
pwar on dargrul vs pwar on medihv
warm plinth
Oh I just pull them all back to the top and do laps around the outsie of the room
outside*
proper roost
i'm just imagining choco with the speedrunner meme rn
just absolutely chilling in tyr ulda as his healer is sweating
fuck healing tyr uldaman
daring marlin
Tyrannical is pretty chill compared to S1 I think
lusty grotto
no i just pull them all on the stairs and walk down
why, just stutter step
south zealot
its fine i had jak carry me
south zealot
why, just stutter step
by walk down i mean stutterstep down
i just walk down and dont walk back up bc im a pussy
lusty grotto
i see
strong forum
its push week
WHAT YOU PUSHIN BUD
proper roost
yea tyr s1 tanking on pwar was kinda spooky in a bunch of places, huh?
relative to this season
proper roost
this season is bing chilling
daring marlin
Whereas Paladin was 
proper roost
ok we going again or what @lusty grotto
crude notch
no one slept on it
warm plinth
@strong forum you going to watch the beauty of yogi's first 20 when I stream it next week
crude notch
it was just bugged af
warm plinth
@sick sentinel @proper roost @dusky canopy what time you guys available on Friday
south zealot
WHAT YOU PUSHIN BUD
gettin pushed out of the guild
warm plinth
and what do you play (besides yogi obviously)
warm plinth
pog
warm plinth
Sure he is
proper roost
its ON
warm plinth
Because it's a no pressure run
We will guide our young padawan
I'd like to get him a nice freehold since that's probably the easiest pwar key
Just to have a chill first 20
south zealot
freehold is the key i die in the most
i always jump/run into the traps like a moron lol
warm plinth
warm plinth
spiteful* not sanguine
proper roost
oh even better wtf
south zealot
spiteful volcanic
daring marlin
do u guys pull all the way to the crystal guy or not
that's spooky
proper roost
pad time poggers
south zealot
lolll
crude notch
bear laugh at traps
warm plinth
do u guys pull all the way to the crystal guy or not
Mmm, nah I don't think it's worth to do the hulk/chunk tbh
dusky canopy
<@456226577798135808> <@116366605818134530> <@224952758808215555> what time you ...
Hard negative Friday that’s the wife’s night but don’t let me stop ya if it works out for everyone else! 
warm plinth
The NL timer isn't tight and it's just a dangerous pull for no real gain
south zealot
ok ill just change my route then
warm plinth
Can do Saturday as well if Kanga can
south zealot
i would always try to go to the huylk and i would get fucked every time
warm plinth
and yogi ofc
proper roost
i've seen very high key pushes pull the hulk and chunk and lust because it saves time (the last area is all really inefficient count minus the scorps which are super dangerous)
yeh i'm free fri/sat
dusky canopy
Every other night if the week 8pm cst is my time
dusky canopy
Sat/sun as much as I can be in I’m on usually
proper roost
i've seen very high key pushes pull the hulk and chunk and lust because it saves...
i don't think this is good without like a prevoker or hpally though
because you need an external after like 30s
lusty grotto
lets go kanga
warm plinth
meaning I do the breaker/dominator/scorpion and the two scorpion pulls in boss room
warm plinth
Volcanic Spiteful
crude notch
i stg
dusky canopy
Oh hell yeah
daring marlin
freeeeeEeEe
dusky canopy
FREE
warm plinth
Last week of the rotation
lusty grotto
spiteful fort is lmao-time for melee
crude notch
every week is free when i'm in the key
proper roost
lmao what
warm plinth
yogi not responding
lusty grotto
poor nimchipadin
strong forum
<@192743144276623360> you going to watch the beauty of yogi's first 20 when I st...
i dont have an answer to that
warm plinth
daring marlin
warm plinth
I really hope he'll do it
south zealot
Mmm, nah I don't think it's worth to do the hulk/chunk tbh
something like this then?
proper roost
this is for this week right
warm plinth
Like this coming Saturday
proper roost
no no sorry i meant that route
warm plinth
oh
south zealot
just in general
proper roost
cuz you can double breaker on 3
to make it slightly faster, but
yeah i think that is like a pretty good standard path for pugs
south zealot
cool ty
vocal verge
What do you do in that nl route to skip the packs between pulls 5 and 6
south zealot
im like 95% sure u can mind soothe and walk past
warm plinth
something like this then?
Kinda hard to see on keystone guru but this is what I do
vocal verge
The only pull I don’t like in that one is pull 4
warm plinth
what's wrong w/ pull 4 D:
south zealot
the shard guy when its just him is fine to do
but in pull 1 u have to get agro on the guys that drop and theres so much shit hitting you
warm plinth
Man those worms are fucking tilting tbh lol
south zealot
is tyran neltharus hard
warm plinth
I hate that they drop aggro
vocal verge
Pull 1 is just crap bc of those no matter what
warm plinth
Uh...it's got some healer checks but
south zealot
Man those worms are fucking tilting tbh lol
true man i have like 30 buttons to press and i have to either charge over or taunt/heroic throw them
warm plinth
it's not really that hard
vocal verge
Pull 4 just has some big damage going out if ppl don’t play it right
south zealot
idk if i wanna just send it in a pug
ive done this dungeon literally twice
literally twice after knowing the chains exist*
did it like 3 times before that
dusky canopy
is tyran neltharus hard
People 4head chain boss in my experience
warm plinth
Pull 4 just has some big damage going out if ppl don’t play it right
Generally you just hard focus the pelter and then swap to the hulk
dusky canopy
Otherwise no
warm plinth
But I also play ppal so I can tank hulks for quite a while pretty safely
south zealot
in pugs do tanks generally do the chains or do dps run them into boss
warm plinth
Well, what I like to see is one DPS puts their chain on top of the boss
dusky canopy
I had a pug yell at me in a 21 NL the other day because I as Arms was pumping into the pelter
warm plinth
And then I pull him through the other 2
dusky canopy
He was like “wtf is this warrior doing targeting pelter”
warm plinth
nah fuck all that "don't target them because they leap" bullshit. They need to fucking die.
dusky canopy
I just said using my brain and everyone else lold
south zealot
on low keys i wouldnt target them but on anything actually difficult they need to die immediately
warm plinth
yeah
daring marlin
is tyran neltharus hard
If you set it up that people just pull the chains across it's lol ez
dusky canopy
Pelter go brr
daring marlin
like in a line
dusky canopy
People sleep on them
warm plinth
I am thinking about switching my route up a bit as I go higher though so I can split up the 2 pelter packs w/ CC
south zealot
im just gonna try to pugs someone elses neltharus
daring marlin
like you can preset world markers for chain boss
daring marlin
^
south zealot
i see
warm plinth
First one goes directly on boss so you don't have to care about his dumb jump for the first chain
daring marlin
As long as people pop personals it's gg
warm plinth
You can counter it but it's just annoying to deal with when you don't have to
warm plinth
Yeah smith mostly a heal check though
Since it's just constant damage the entire fight
daring marlin
fax
mellow bridge
He was like “wtf is this warrior doing targeting pelter”
Targeting pelters as a melee makes then jump away and split up
You should focus the breakers and cleave them down
mellow bridge
W/e
warm plinth
It doesn't matter if they jump; it matters if they die
mellow bridge
Enjoy splitting both of them up and then dying slower that way
warm plinth
I mean I do it all the time and never had an issue
idk what level of key you're doing but in high keys you don't even fight 2 pelters at once; that's how dangerous they are
crude notch
not to mention there's things that like counter leaps you know.
daring marlin
muyuu doing 24s
warm plinth
People just get hung up on "this works so we should do it" kind of shit
mellow bridge
muyuu doing 24s
*muyuu depleting 25s to really dumb mistakes 
proper roost
ye i fucking hate it on fort weeks when people dont target the pelters
daring marlin
daring marlin
just let the mage combooooost them
proper roost
let em jump theyre literally the only dangerous part of those pulls
warm plinth
COMBOOOOOOOOST
proper roost
my warrior is my main!!
warm plinth
*muyuu depleting 25s to really dumb mistakes <:gladge:963970137701109820>
like not focusing pelters down? I kid I kid
warm plinth
yeah just yoink em back 
Blizz not able to do what addons have been able to do for years LUL
crude notch
ursol's those hoes
crude notch
Blizz not able to do what addons have been able to do for years LUL
can't sell myself.
warm plinth
same though
warm plinth
16s for vault slots if you don't have 3 yet
proper roost
yes
well
on my shaman i did 13s
cuz that way i dodged the affix but it at least dropped 424 champ
lusty grotto
that dk almost died twice kanga
proper roost
or 421? eh, either way
lusty grotto
he had like 5 hp
proper roost
yeah ok one of the times i was typing in disc ngl
lusty grotto
haha
daring marlin
LMAO
proper roost
i'm extremely sleepy
warm plinth
You guys who type in disc mid-key are a different breed
lusty grotto
he was living on a prayer
warm plinth
Nah I feel that tbh
proper roost
when i dps low keys, i'm blasting, i pay like 120% attention because dumping on the meters is hilarious
when i heal, i am actually just asleep
warm plinth
I remember going into my first real key on my rsham in SL and being taken completely off guard because in lower keys I didn't even have to use cloudburst totem; that's how 💤 it was
proper roost
i ate like 2 mistral aoes because i was paying 0 attention
warm plinth
Literally just throw a riptide on someone now and then and I was good lol
warm plinth
YOGI
lusty grotto
lets gooo yogi
warm plinth
WHY YOU NO ANSWER PING
sick sentinel
i have commital issue
warm plinth
Fucking poggers
Come on yogi, it'll be super chill
if we deplete it doesn't matter
sick sentinel
warm plinth
Fuckin huge
sick sentinel
one of those lairs was over time
warm plinth
yogi casually was like nah fuck 14s fam, we doing 16s now
proper roost
ur a monster
south zealot
is using corrupting rage as a tank unethical
sick sentinel
need hero ring
uneven mason
is using corrupting rage as a tank unethical
Wat
proper roost
are you actually gonna have uptime on corrupting rage lol
warm plinth
uhh, kinda lol
proper roost
in a key
warm plinth
You'd have the dot a lot and your uptime would suck ass
south zealot
warm plinth
Even specs that use it need like 70+% uptime for it to be worth
south zealot
im just playin
even if i wanted to use it for damage my vers is so low i need vers phail
south zealot
assuming i had insane uptime
warm plinth
You can't survive keys without vers, everyone knows that Jordan
uneven mason
crude notch
I swapped to crit/haste on my burr because dodgegodx
warm plinth
Well, it is isn't it? Because ToI is super easy to get
Like you still take it; the build just isn't centered on it?
uneven mason
Right you don't have cocaine bear apm
crude notch
this the build tomorrow
crude notch
5 stack RnT back too.
uneven mason
Raze is the play
crude notch
well no shit
warm plinth
Why didn't you take raze in your build Jordan smh my head
crude notch
smh my helmet
you got your keybinds ready for having regrowth and maul/raze be separate buttons?
toxic pewter
ohh ursocs fury is back? i always enjoyed that legendary/talent lol
hallow phoenix
Even specs that use it need like 70+% uptime for it to be worth
My details buff uptime is 90+% for overall whenever I use corrupting rage
errant oriole
why is everyone so hyped for the bear?
warm plinth
Blizz pls 
