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crude notch
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for a game

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that isn't even a thing

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JFC

toxic pewter
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Well the future is coming

dusky canopy
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Reaper rogue spec when?

toxic pewter
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Wow 2 will be a thing

crude notch
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Will it?

dusky canopy
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reinhardt warrior tank when?

balmy pawn
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That's what he's been arguing for the entire time. Is some different game that isn't world of warcraft.

crude notch
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Not if you're at the helm

toxic pewter
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Yeah for sure

crude notch
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He cries for the olden days, disses modern wow, but wants an even more modernized wow

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wtf

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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once again

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big picture thinking

toxic pewter
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Lol

lusty grotto
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im a genious

toxic pewter
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It just happens that way

lusty grotto
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"you just cant grasp"

crude notch
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How are you this egotistical?

balmy pawn
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Check out the big brain on Brett.

toxic pewter
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That’s what happens when you talk to people

dusky canopy
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World of Warcraft Azeroth reborn

toxic pewter
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Just end up with new ideas

dusky canopy
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WHEN?

toxic pewter
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Yah wow 2

lusty grotto
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you just say blanket statements like that to people all the time apb?

mighty valley
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big picture thinking like "what if we were all nice" as a system of government

toxic pewter
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Like what

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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you just tell them how youre so much better than them and they cant comprehend you?

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dont you think that's a problem bro?

toxic pewter
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No I didn’t mean it offensively

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I am just thinking as it comes

crude notch
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You're actually a moron

lusty grotto
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in this conversation you've literally said you're more capable like 30 times

crude notch
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Not many people get that distinction from me

toxic pewter
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I agree now current wow doesn’t have what I am looking for

crude notch
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But you my friend

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are a moron

lusty grotto
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go ahead count them, ill wait

toxic pewter
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Lol

lusty grotto
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shit im gonna go ahead and put them in a meme

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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cause this deserves it

toxic pewter
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I’m not trying to be moronic

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Just having discussion

dusky canopy
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Cant wait for them to remove all my mounts and transmog

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😄

crude notch
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You know for as big picture as you are you have no ability to actually think about the impact of your big picture

toxic pewter
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At first I thought the fourth role for wow was a good idea but alas I agree it isn’t

toxic pewter
crude notch
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stop randomly putting words together that don't make sense

toxic pewter
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Ok

dusky canopy
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three blue square hot

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😄

crude notch
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Think about what you're saying

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Process what you're saying

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Do critical thinking

dusky canopy
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im doing maths pretty good hey?

crude notch
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Instead of thinking you're the second coming of christ

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actually think about the implications of what you're saying

toxic pewter
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I never thought that… everyone has their strengths and weaknesses

crude notch
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jfc

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are you sure you're not a bot?

toxic pewter
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??

dusky canopy
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BOT dn

toxic pewter
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Just had some ideas and we talked about them and I have changed how I viewed certain things.. have you?

crude notch
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have you ever considered

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that maybe

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when everyone thinks you're constantly baiting

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that you might just not be this big thinker that you think you are

toxic pewter
daring marlin
crude notch
toxic pewter
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Yah see

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That’s how discussions are meant to go

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It’s a good thing

crude notch
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stfu

toxic pewter
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Ok

lusty grotto
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oof

dusky canopy
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god dayum

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giving apb the hate today are we

mighty valley
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me when i put ketchup on the birthday cake

dusky canopy
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"Ketchup on the birthday cake"

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now thats something

mighty valley
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"time will prove me right" i say as the 6 year old child bursts into tears

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actually some kids would probably love ketchup cake

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never mind

dusky canopy
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omg

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lmao

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you want some mustard and or a hotdog to go with your cake little johnny

toxic pewter
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Mustard on hotdog only

dusky canopy
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literal vomit

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however

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mustard sauerkraut and brat

balmy pawn
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Ketchup is fine too. I guess I just have a more sophisticated and larger outlook when it comes to hotdogs.

dusky canopy
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pretty good

lusty grotto
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lmao hakks

dusky canopy
mighty valley
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i've recently come around to a pickle spear in a hot dog

toxic pewter
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Who love Costco hotdog and drink 1.50

mighty valley
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i love when someone at costco suggested raising the price on the hot dog combo

lusty grotto
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now that we're talking about food, what fucking sriracha are you guys buying now that Huy Fong is hard to get

mighty valley
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and the president of costco said "i will kill you before i raise the price"

toxic pewter
daring marlin
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I buy one sauce and it's chipotle tabasco

lusty grotto
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ive tried like... 10 of them and they are all shit compared to huy fong

dusky canopy
waxen frigate
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None because sriracha is overrated

lusty grotto
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even chick fil a sriracha is meh

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it is overrrated

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ngl

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but its just the better of the ones around sadly

waxen frigate
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The four horsemen of overhyped food:

lusty grotto
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IPAs

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Sriracha

waxen frigate
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Bacon, sriracha, Nutella,

lusty grotto
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hold up

waxen frigate
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And I forgot the 4th tbh

lusty grotto
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how dare you

dusky canopy
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no way bro

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nutella toast is the shit

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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why must you put bacon there

dusky canopy
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also bacon is delicious

crude notch
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that's how you know you have a bad take

waxen frigate
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Bacon is good

crude notch
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when apb agrees

toxic pewter
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I’m over bacon

waxen frigate
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It’s just overhyped

daring marlin
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meh

waxen frigate
daring marlin
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I eat turkey bacon

toxic pewter
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Sriracha is good though

waxen frigate
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Gonna walk that one back

lusty grotto
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nutella is def overhyped

waxen frigate
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So that I no longer agree with apb

lusty grotto
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well turkey bacon is pretty good too

waxen frigate
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Also what the fuck was the fourth I had something specific in mind

toxic pewter
daring marlin
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turkey bacon always comes out perfect in the air fryer

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bacon would too but it's pork so hard pass

waxen frigate
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No

daring marlin
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kale is foul

lusty grotto
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velveeta?

toxic pewter
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Avocados

waxen frigate
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Nobody actually hypes kale up as “good”

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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apb said avocados so guac?

toxic pewter
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Cheoterie board

waxen frigate
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And also not really hyped

toxic pewter
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Maybe wagyu beef

lusty grotto
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could be guac ngl

waxen frigate
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Haven’t tried it so no opinion on wavyu

lusty grotto
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feels like its overhyped too

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guacamole i mean

toxic pewter
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Is it hotdog

waxen frigate
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No hot dogs are good

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And not hyped

toxic pewter
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Is a hotdog a sandwich

lusty grotto
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szechuan?

daring marlin
waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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hmmm now you got me thinking

waxen frigate
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I’m literally actually mad that I can’t remember

balmy pawn
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Like the entire cuisine? Szechuan food blasts off.

waxen frigate
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No presumably the ruck and mortu sauce

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Because Sichuan food is rly good

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I agree

lusty grotto
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yeah i was referring to the rick and morty sauce

toxic pewter
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Chinese food so good

lusty grotto
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and also agree with you guys

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sushi?

waxen frigate
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No

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Sushi bangs

lusty grotto
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ok ok lets keep going

balmy pawn
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There is a lot of mid sushi in the world, but good sushi is v good.

waxen frigate
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I’m thinking like foods there are hyped way out of proportion

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Like people try to put Nutella and bacon on everything

lusty grotto
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gluten free shit?

waxen frigate
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It’s just tiring

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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true

waxen frigate
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Lmao

toxic pewter
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Is it chipotle

waxen frigate
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Chipotle

daring marlin
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nutella is so fuckin' bad for you

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just

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lmao

waxen frigate
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Is not what I was thinking but is way overhyped

toxic pewter
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Caviar

waxen frigate
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It’s mediocre food and way too expensive

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Never had caviar

toxic pewter
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Frosting / icing

waxen frigate
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You’re just naming foods

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At this point

toxic pewter
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Pumpkin spice flavored things

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Ya

waxen frigate
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Not stuff that’s actually omega hyped up

lusty grotto
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pumpkin spice IS overhyped

crude notch
waxen frigate
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I agree

crude notch
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breathing is bad for you

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everything is bad for you

waxen frigate
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I don’t like pumpkin spice at all

crude notch
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If you do too much of it

lusty grotto
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i dont either

waxen frigate
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Honestly avocados were probably the 4th thing I was thinking of

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Maybe A1 sauce

toxic pewter
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I was trying to guess the 4th thing

crude notch
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wow is bad for you

lusty grotto
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guacamole

crude notch
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yet here we are

lusty grotto
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honestly

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like avocados in general arent bad

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but people like guac on everything

waxen frigate
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They’re not bad

dusky canopy
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birria tacos is where its at

waxen frigate
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They’re just overdone

dusky canopy
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with consume

toxic pewter
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What better queso or guac

waxen frigate
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Is good

mighty valley
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avocados are bad if they have to travel a long way to get to you

lusty grotto
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why not both

mighty valley
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otherwise they rule

toxic pewter
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Have to pick 1

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I pick guac

waxen frigate
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Queso for me

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I’m not big into guac

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I only generally enjoy avocado in sushi

mighty valley
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guac 80% of the time, queso 20%

crude notch
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queso is poggies

mighty valley
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queso is just. a lot

waxen frigate
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Also notably queso is not that fuckin velveeta ass canned shit

lusty grotto
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hope not

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that's an insult

toxic pewter
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Yah velveeta is gross

crude notch
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grid

toxic pewter
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lol

mighty valley
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that shit's grid man

toxic pewter
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Even bots make typos

waxen frigate
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I live in south Texas I have strong opinions on tex mex

toxic pewter
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Oh nice I’m in Texas too

crude notch
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starting to make more sense here apb

toxic pewter
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I don’t get it

crude notch
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labels and everything

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living in texas

dusky canopy
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ive applied to any and all 21s this entire rant

toxic pewter
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Oh

crude notch
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highly full of yourself

dusky canopy
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not a one accept

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lmao

toxic pewter
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LOL

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I’m from ny orignally

crude notch
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all coming together

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oh god

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even worse

toxic pewter
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LOL

mighty valley
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oh you have new york taste in hot dogs

dusky canopy
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WISCO bois

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lets gooooo

mighty valley
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this all makes sense

daring marlin
toxic pewter
crude notch
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Guilford a new yorker too

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jesus

dusky canopy
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bro I CANT

crude notch
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All I know is

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Go Sox.

dusky canopy
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they have a town named

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YONKERS

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LOL

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
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So nearby you

crude notch
daring marlin
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I grew up in Wisconsin tho

median tulip
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last boss of HoI is a complete twat

daring marlin
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town of 1700 baby

toxic pewter
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Wisconsin seems cool

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No pun intended

daring marlin
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Wisconsin is the best

crude notch
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Graduation class of 26, beat that.

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
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My class had like 900 somethin

waxen frigate
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Or is that the wrong brand

daring marlin
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Mine was probably 90ish

median tulip
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Is there any way of managing the spawns of circles? I got so many around me that I couldn't stay in melee and one of my DPS got punched to death

mighty valley
crude notch
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I was top 25 in my class

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get owned

toxic pewter
waxen frigate
crude notch
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give it time

daring marlin
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:)

waxen frigate
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On god

mighty valley
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i fled, everyone else should

median tulip
dusky canopy
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bro wtf

toxic pewter
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I lived in Florida for 3 years

dusky canopy
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LOL

median tulip
waxen frigate
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I think we should just glass the planet tbh

dusky canopy
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HEY LOOK AT THAT GUYS "boggybottom" after taco bell

toxic pewter
mighty valley
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look at this shit

dusky canopy
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how in the hell

toxic pewter
waxen frigate
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Cockplay

dusky canopy
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are those town names

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LOL

median tulip
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I used to live in a place called Lumbutts. It was just up the hill from Hawes Wood

dusky canopy
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literally ROFL

daring marlin
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Brew signed up to one of my keys earlier

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he cancelled it tho

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
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wait did I?

daring marlin
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:^)

waxen frigate
dusky canopy
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bro ive been signing up for any and all 21s

waxen frigate
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Texas towns

dusky canopy
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no invites

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its what happens when youre lazy early season and dont grind the io latter

lusty grotto
# waxen frigate

theres a town in africa called Yabewtie or something like that, my static was joking about it

dusky canopy
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lul

mighty valley
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imagine growing up here

lusty grotto
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haha

waxen frigate
dusky canopy
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@daring marlin lets run a key then what you got?

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i got 20 FH in bags

crude notch
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brew is friends with guilford but not me

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wtf

median tulip
# dusky canopy are those town names

When AoL first started offering internet in the UK there were several towns where you couldn't get them to accept service because their payment software would try to censor the town names. Places names "Clitheroe", "Peniston", "Lightwater" and "Cockermouth" being particularly notable

toxic pewter
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I’ll be ur friend

crude notch
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i'd rather unalive

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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Peniston is bis

dusky canopy
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That just shows how much more mature the EU folks are apparently

lusty grotto
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but fuck i cant stop laughing at Titty Ho

dusky canopy
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US could never get away with that

balmy pawn
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I'm partial to Cockermouth

lusty grotto
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case in point

median tulip
crude notch
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that strat actually worked wtf

median tulip
daring marlin
lusty grotto
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lmao

daring marlin
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I shoulda grabbed you over the lock

crude notch
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Hoo Hole

daring marlin
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dude legit did 99k overall

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bdk did 80k

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lmao

dusky canopy
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oh bro ez

median tulip
dusky canopy
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i did 135k in my last Nelth i think

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i also ran the wrong build though

lusty grotto
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these names are so fucking good

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lol

dusky canopy
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ToM BS in Nelth is bad

daring marlin
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I recall a funny street called Pleasure Mansion in Virginia Beach

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Gaslight Court too iirc

waxen frigate
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There’s a street near me called Wind Walker

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
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i might sandbag

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but im down

mighty valley
daring marlin
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nvm Gas Light Ln

median tulip
daring marlin
lusty grotto
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sounds like me every tuesday

dusky canopy
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np np ill just keep queing

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😄

toxic pewter
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Who here eatin some chickie nuggies

dusky canopy
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had a protein bar and cottage cheese a bit ago as snack

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not sure about dinner yet

toxic pewter
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Nice

sick sentinel
toxic pewter
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Sir this is a Wendy’s

crude notch
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🐔 🍚

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Gang gang

crude notch
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Your face is a skill issue

sick sentinel
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is what is

dusky canopy
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ayooo

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21 undr boys

toxic pewter
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Nice

dusky canopy
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maybe ill start getting some 21 invites now that i have one

sick sentinel
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thats the same copium logic im using for 17's running 16's

dusky canopy
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LOL tru

jagged gust
dusky canopy
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^^^^^

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This

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wifes currently blushing as I asked her what she thinks

sick sentinel
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one of the AI bidens catch phrases is "let me make something clit slapping clear"

jagged gust
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"The only clitheroe I need is you babe"

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That's beautiful yogi

sick sentinel
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there was some key i posted a video of with the presidents and they got trump to make a bunch of strange noises and i started to lauigh so much i lamost lost it and wiped the key

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when he's making fun of the oomploompfloompa guy

waxen frigate
median tulip
median tulip
crude notch
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Disregard thinking of Uldaman

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But yes a majority of the circles spawn on you

drifting mountain
crude notch
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The player

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So if you stand on one side you can go to the other side after ezpz

orchid mural
# median tulip Yeah

best thing is to have your group be in same quadrant. when swirls spawn move to other side.

for tank buster, when you get your alert, hit spell reflect. if u miss the reflect, taunt, because even though u are out of range the boss will still be fixated on you for the duration of the taunt

crude notch
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That

orchid mural
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the reflect means u won't be punted.

crude notch
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Isn't what they were referring to

orchid mural
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it's what Zetakya

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is

crude notch
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If you step out of melee range someone else in melee range gets punched, it's not about the knockback

orchid mural
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If you taunt the boss b4 u step out of melee range

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he will not punch other melee

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because the boss is fixated on you

median tulip
orchid mural
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for the duration of the taunt

median tulip
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No, the punt I reflected; it's the circles giving me nowhere to stand that was the issue

orchid mural
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so if u need to do a cool dodge manuever, hit taunt, or aoe taunt, or leap and taunt.

median tulip
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Oh I see, that makes sense

crude notch
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Don't be surprised when it doesn't work though

median tulip
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I didn't realise taunt would override the "punch the melee DPS" part

orchid mural
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or be surprised when it does (cuz it will)

crude notch
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I mean they won't be surprised when it does

lusty grotto
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once again, reflect the hit after the punt

crude notch
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Yeah

lusty grotto
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entangling on that boss is a fucking nightmare, same with 1st VP boss

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but at least

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the knock can help you get out of an entangling

orchid mural
crude notch
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There's nothing to say for no punt

median tulip
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Entangling was a non-issue that run; Monk healer

lusty grotto
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absolutely nothing for no punt, you gain rage when charging

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its a bad take to avoid the punt

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we're warriors

jagged gust
lusty grotto
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and the dot does so much more damage its not even a question

crude notch
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If you think reflecting the punt is the play #arms #fury here you go

median tulip
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My favourite punt mechanic this season is the blacksmith boss in Neltharus; he punts you, you charge out from under his slam and /mock him

lusty grotto
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uhh

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so you place puddles near the anvil?

median tulip
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No

crude notch
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Nah

jagged gust
lusty grotto
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are you moving him out of the anvil area?

crude notch
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What

median tulip
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You wait like half a second, the red swirly appears where he punts you to, THEN you charge and he misses you entirely

crude notch
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Nah he knocks you back into the wall and you wait a half second and charge

lusty grotto
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if you insta reflect

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err

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charge

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you can drop the shit near the anvil instead

crude notch
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Yeah you wait

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I've done the same thing on Bear. That's fun killing the homies

lusty grotto
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lol

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ive done intervene out and fucked people over

crude notch
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LMAO

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That's cursed

sick sentinel
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i don't feel intervene is nessecary in my keys

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so, ya

crude notch
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What kind of warrior are you

lusty grotto
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hmm yogi

crude notch
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Intervene gang

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Rise up

lusty grotto
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yeah fr i dont even drop intervene on my builds anymore

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well maybe for ST builds

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because fuck it

median tulip
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Intervene was fun on Fenrir, but is there any need for it this season?

lusty grotto
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theres like 3 fixates

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bloodswarmers, BH fixates, FH fixates

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BH first boss you can intervene the pounce (not the jumps with the bleeds)

median tulip
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The fixate in Neltharus doesn't count, it dies too fast to matter; just stun it

lusty grotto
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but gotta be careful with the cleave when you do it

crude notch
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Warrior support spec when?

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let me intervene all the homies

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no cd on intervene

lusty grotto
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what fixate in neltharus

orchid mural
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TBH i run intervene all fights / raids - the ability to possibly zoom out of danger or to danger makes me smile.

median tulip
crude notch
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ah yeah

lusty grotto
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uhh thats magical damage though

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so intervene does nothing

crude notch
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yep

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you intervene and then tell your hunter to drop a trap anyways

median tulip
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Assuming your hunter is competent

crude notch
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As competent as intervening a magic damage fixate

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warrior can reflect azerite shot right?

strong forum
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if you mean FH, no

crude notch
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oh

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that's saj

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So then lock is probably better for their strat then

strong forum
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only flat dmg reduction from SR

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but no reflect

crude notch
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There's currently more TW teams qualified than NA teams. Kekw

sick sentinel
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trying to apply to UR 16's not getting invites yet, do i need to do a 14/15 first? ugh

crude notch
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Does VDH/PPal survive the double tank strat or is that unironically a team that did it without the cheese, you think @strong forum ?

sick sentinel
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im not content with doing under 16s, i think im capped on t3 crests

strong forum
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which pretty much every tank can do

crude notch
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yeah

strong forum
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BDK just does it the easiest

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and has CC for add + can go full UH ST burn for first boss to get out of p1

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its pretty handy to have a UH DK burst 300k dps on boss to get out of the dangerous phase noahwhite

south zealot
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i dont think u can switch specs mid key in tgp though

crude notch
#

In competition since you can't swap, surely you don't do BDK though right? Because of ST?

strong forum
#

uhm

crude notch
strong forum
#

you know a handy feature

#

called town portal

south zealot
crude notch
#

Yeah actual competition you cannot

south zealot
#

im aware you can physically do it i meant i thought its against the rules

crude notch
#

You cannot swap during actual competition

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It's against the rules for cup play

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It's not for Proving Grounds because they can't enforce it

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Because you can't have hundreds of admins

strong forum
#

which is even more degen

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"lets abuse a strat that we likely cant do during the actual cup"

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that being said, it might be possible to be pulled off

south zealot
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

strong forum
#

with double tank from the get go

crude notch
#

It'll be the play to just double tank even during cups

dusky canopy
#

what are we double tanking i dont pay attention

crude notch
#

If they don't fix something this week

crude notch
#

+30

strong forum
#

depends on how long the dps can survive p1

dusky canopy
#

what is the reason for double tank?

crude notch
#

bombing

strong forum
#

harlan cannon abuse

crude notch
#

harlan

dusky canopy
#

ohhh the cannon thing

crude notch
#

ye 🧀

strong forum
#

1 tank sits at harlan, rest kills entire dungeon with cannons

chilly brook
#

Isn’t that out of the question for competition anyways?

dusky canopy
#

right right so the idea is bdk sits at harlan and the cannon damage is greater than having a 3rd dps

#

makes sense

#

doubt they do that

sick sentinel
chilly brook
#

Iirc they enforced 1 healer, 3 dps and 1 tank

strong forum
#

comps arent limited to 1-3-1

crude notch
#

nope

#

not limited

strong forum
#

nah they got rid of that rule in SL

chilly brook
#

Since when?

strong forum
#

for some reason

chilly brook
#

Oh

sick sentinel
#

i forget, i think i also get hit by shark, which also would trigger dbm

chilly brook
strong forum
#

in SL or DF

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cant remember when

crude notch
#

Yeah one of them

strong forum
#

but they removed it

crude notch
#

idk which

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Originally it was put in to prevent Tettles from 4-manning

dusky canopy
#

weird rule to remove honestly

strong forum
#

yeah its why we had 1-4 comps in S1

crude notch
#

They'll probably put it back in if they don't fix the cannon range

strong forum
#

they should

#

its dumb

#

they still uphold the spec rule

crude notch
#

Yeah even the competitors are like, f this.

dusky canopy
#

im honestly suprised this wasnt a thing i heard about in bfa

strong forum
#

cuz in BFA they implemented the rule

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in legion people did 1-4 tournament keys

crude notch
#

yep

dusky canopy
#

so no one bothered with it makes sense

strong forum
#

so they stopped that with implementing 1-3-1

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then after BFA

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they implemented "no spec stacking"

crude notch
#

"Oh this is why we put this rule in"

strong forum
#

cuz 2-3x outlul and 2-3x BM comps

crude notch
#

Yeah because triple BM hunter keks

strong forum
#

then they got rid of 1-3-1 again

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but spec rule is still in place iirc

dusky canopy
#

so I guess I can see them wanting more class representation but like

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from a competitive stand point

#

why does it matter how they do it?

strong forum
#

its cuz twitch chat cried 24/7 "uuh same comp again"

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cuz they dont understand

dusky canopy
#

as long as its not abusing actual bugs

strong forum
#

how a tournament works

crude notch
chilly brook
crude notch
#

Falco much

strong forum
#

i can understand it

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its annoying to triple stack the same DPS

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but look at what they did in SL

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2x warlock + surv hunter instead

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:bearclap:

crude notch
#

But also comps are gonna be the same no matter what. Also you can't see the gameplay anyways so what does it matter what color the party frame is.

strong forum
#

yeah

chilly brook
#

I mean I think the real solution is just to make another tournament

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Have regular mdi which is anything goes

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The great push

dusky canopy
#

well thats kinda what i think as jordan said

chilly brook
#

And then something where you do one of those but add in an extra limiter

crude notch
#

The limiter is in place and it still is the same comps

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much variance, many wow

chilly brook
#

Something like once x is played you’re locked into playing something else next dungeon

crude notch
#

yeah screw that

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you don't do things that run competitors off even more

dusky canopy
#

the thing is like everyone is going to run whatever is considered "best"

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so why even limit in the first place

chilly brook
strong forum
#

where you couldnt play the same spec 2x in a row

chilly brook
#

This isn’t being forced

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I’m arguing to add another tournament

strong forum
#

or class even

#

idr how it was

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but people switched class/spec every single game

astral whale
crude notch
#

People just want to see their class color represented in the party frame, but won't just say that

strong forum
#

biggest issue of the tournament scene is just the lack of being able to do your own for fun tournaments

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the lack of "custom games"

crude notch
#

Yeah dealing with blizzard esports for tournament creating is part of the problem

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Everything has to go through them.

chilly brook
sick sentinel
chilly brook
#

Since you don’t want to use your best comp on a bad dungeon

astral whale
#

Or just where you use a certain class

strong forum
#

blizz is somewhat pushing wow as an e-sport but doesnt give you the infrastructure to treat it as such

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:pepega:

astral whale
#

Like Prot warrior for reflect or where you want holy pala

crude notch
#

(:

dusky canopy
#

Maybe could be interesting if there were dungeon specific comps

astral whale
#

Made comp choice pretty cool

chilly brook
#

Since you only get each comp once per round

dusky canopy
#

right

crude notch
#

The practice for that sounds so tedious you immediately cut out 90% of people that would sign up. It's already bad enough as is imo.

strong forum
#

yes

astral whale
#

It works great for MDI but it’s stupid for great push since tgp is all about pushing the limit of key level

#

Honestly MDI needs a refresh

dusky canopy
#

participation is low becuase the ceiling required to compete is absolutely insane for the average person

strong forum
#

if you cant nolife

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you cant compete cuz there is only 1 bracket

chilly brook
#

I think you’re looking at it wrong anyways

crude notch
#

Yes looking at it from the competitors standpoint is crazy talk

#

i know

chilly brook
#

You don’t necessarily build these around the competitors

strong forum
#

you can play make believe every few months for 2 weeks

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and thats it

chilly brook
#

It’s a factor for sure

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But at the end of the day esports lives and dies on if it’s fun to watch

crude notch
#

Which requires people that are fun to watch

dusky canopy
#

You build the "esport" to be entertaining to watch for the viewer. and anyone who wants to compete will adjust

crude notch
#

If you don't think personalities has a place in competitive scene, idk what to tell you

strong forum
#

Matt, if you cant relate to what youre watching, how can you even start to enjoy it

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dota/csgo/valorant/lol

chilly brook
strong forum
#

all play the exact same game as you do

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but wow vs tournament wow

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are 2 different games

#

and an average player cant even comprehend whats going on

chilly brook
#

WoW also just struggles to be watchable unless you know the game

strong forum
#

MDI and TGP would also just find more viewership, if people could make their own shitty funny tournaments

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same as you have shitty low rank tournaments for other games

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to get people engaged

chilly brook
#

At the end of the day blizz just needs to do better

strong forum
#

yes

crude notch
#

If they want to

dusky canopy
#

literally my wife when i put mdi on in the living room

#

"oh cool they killed that thing"

#

its not even remotely relatable

#

for a non wow player

crude notch
#

The thing is there's no one encroaching on the MMORPG esport scene, so they aren't being pushed to be better

strong forum
#

yeah unless youre legit in-the-know

#

you cant tell how impressive echo is

#

same as me watching football

chilly brook
#

Yesnt

strong forum
#

"yeah ok ball went into goal"

#

👏

dusky canopy
#

^ same literally

crude notch
#

HOMERUN!

dusky canopy
#

lmfao

chilly brook
#

The problem is they are actually incentivized to make it better

crude notch
#

I also don't think people realize where the esports financial stability arrow is currently pointing

#

strong forum
#

wow is literally the biggest meme e-sport

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cuz unless youre literally the best team in the world

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you just are at a loss

#

even as a streamer if you say push for a living

crude notch
#

now those fuckers are taking over EU AWC too

strong forum
#

who is

chilly brook
crude notch
chilly brook
#

For a multitude of reasons

crude notch
strong forum
#

whos cho

crude notch
#

echo*

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sorry

#

lmao

strong forum
#

ah

crude notch
#

They've won like 3 cups now i think

strong forum
#

i didnt know echo had a pvp team

#

is it just whazz again

crude notch
#

Yeah they're sweeping the EU scene rn

sick sentinel
#

ah yes, now i remember undersuck

#

i really trly remember now

dusky canopy
#

So maybe its just me but seeing "echo winner of this years mdi" is getting old

crude notch
#

when i look i didn't remember any of their names

sick sentinel
#

i forgot how bad, but now i know

chilly brook
#
  1. people pumped it financially way too hard, it was a bubble that wasn’t sustainable
  2. and probably the more important aspect imo, you have way too many dev teams that actively make decisions to hurt competitive play because they think they know better
strong forum
crude notch
#

ye

strong forum
#

formerly method

crude notch
#

chanimal still has c9 in his handle, nice.

#

LMAO

chilly brook
#

Great example is Siege esports

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Used to be a super large growing esport and game

strong forum
#

siege is super beginner unfriendly

crude notch
chilly brook
#

But Ubisoft devs literally said “if we’re making pros lives harder then we’re moving in the right direction”

strong forum
#

i wanted to get into siege so many times

#

but fuck me its a hard game

chilly brook
#

Like active disdain for competitive players

strong forum
#

the people playing that game are cracked

#

literally see 1 pixel

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and identify it as a player

#

unreal

chilly brook
crude notch
#

🪃

strong forum
#

ive bought like 3 season passes of the game but i could never get into it

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cuz knowledge in that game is just

#

more than any other FPS

crude notch
#

From a sponsor angle it's more profitable (and easier to scam) if they work with individuals instead of whole franchises.

#

So that's another ordeal

median tulip
#

The big problem wiith the esports scene isn't the pros; it's the wannabes that leech all the actual fun out of casual play

strong forum
#

well, the first and foremost issue is the companies making active pro play harder

median tulip
#

like I stopped playing League because you'd run into hyper neckbeard "it's a competitive game" types in the lowest brackets that just drained all the entertainment out of the gameplay

chilly brook
#

Literally me

strong forum
#

only solution is to git gud

#

and btfo people

crude notch
#

GRIFF A GAMER

chilly brook
#

I used to be

crude notch
#

Once a gamer always a gamer.

strong forum
#

dafuq

dusky canopy
#

damn griff

#

pog

crude notch
#

That shot

#

I watched it 4 times

#

i can't

strong forum
#

is this "we have proplay at home"?

chilly brook
chilly brook
strong forum
#

thats a thing?

chilly brook
#

Ye

lusty grotto
#

man its too bad siege is just full of hackers nowadays

crude notch
#

Was gonna say Collegiate R6 has like 200+ universities

strong forum
#

esports getting endorsed?

chilly brook
#

Some colleges ye

crude notch
#

Oh yeah there's collegiate league here too

lusty grotto
#

thats pretty awesome

chilly brook
#

Full sail was like one of the first that has an esports arena on campus

strong forum
#

in germany you get bullied for playing video games, and in NA you get actually endorsed

#

wtf

crude notch
#

lmao

#

yep

lusty grotto
#

you still get bullied in NA

sick sentinel
#

i've been attempting to play stalker, but surprise, surprise, im too fucking dumb for that game as well

crude notch
#

Definitely do

sick sentinel
#

its still a pretty unclear game to me what i actually gotta do

crude notch
#

It's far cooler to play video games than it was say 20 years ago, but you still get bullied.

lusty grotto
#

yeah

#

it has slowly changed

chilly brook
#

Ironically I started competitive play with PUBG

lusty grotto
#

big payoffs on tourneys and later streamers are a big part of that change

crude notch
#

I lost a lot of sleep to the PUBG craze

lusty grotto
#

pubg was fucking fun

crude notch
#

I had to uninstall

#

It was getting bad

sick sentinel
#

been shootin nazi's since 1992

strong forum
#

i got alot of sleep from pubg craze

lusty grotto
#

i heard that they put revive in recently

strong forum
#

lotta streams to fall asleep to

lusty grotto
#

lol

crude notch
#

so true.

lusty grotto
#

cmon now, its not towelie

strong forum
#

no i mean that in a positive way

dusky canopy
#

ngl pubg

#

was so much fun

lusty grotto
#

at least the doc was fucking entertaining

strong forum
#

i despise playing BRs

lusty grotto
#

and still is kind of

strong forum
#

but watching pubg was aight

dusky canopy
#

that was the last time all the boys were online together

#

good nostalgia there

strong forum
#

watching people play stressful games is way better than playing stressful games

strong forum
#

cuz you can just chill

sick sentinel
#

quake 3 arena was actually the best game of all time for its time, same for unreal tournament 2000

lusty grotto
#

i used to dislike BRs until i played them, i love em now

strong forum
#

i played 1 round of pubg

#

i won it

#

100% winrate

dusky canopy
#

I agree totally wit that take nome

strong forum
sick sentinel
#

for the time that they were new were literal the best game as a whole

strong forum
#

never played again

chilly brook
#

I miss pubg

strong forum
#

i miss old dayz

#

the birthplace of BRs

chilly brook
#

But it’s another example of a game that was better before it came out officially lol

lusty grotto
#

the only shooter im actively playing right now is BF2042

chilly brook
#

Devs changed a whole bunch of stuff no one asked for with 1.0 release

strong forum
#

dayz mod was peak

lusty grotto
#

kill me for it but i think the changes have been good and its fun

#

for BF i mean

#

anything else is just eh

#

same old

#

CS/Valorant and/or Warzone/Apex/BRs

strong forum
#

nothing gave you as much of an adrenaline rush as seeing a player in dayz

lusty grotto
#

and of course Siege

daring marlin
dusky canopy
#

how is updated bf42?

sick sentinel
strong forum
#

totally worth the 3 hrs of just scavenging

daring marlin
#

new stuff is garbanzo

dusky canopy
#

i was a preorder guy and at launch it was hella dry

lusty grotto
#

im actually waiting for The Finals, it seems like it'll be interesting

strong forum
#

still waiting for a good survivalgame

sick sentinel
#

100% acheivements and like lvl 30general

strong forum
#

that could encapsulate what dayz mod was

lusty grotto
sick sentinel
#

general ranks are paragon

lusty grotto
#

so i was kinda excited for ark 2

strong forum
#

ark is too goofy

#

and too much rpg

lusty grotto
#

until they announced all the dogshit

strong forum
#

we just need a good dayz again

lusty grotto
#

yeah i get what youre saying

#

dayz was fun

#

actually good proximity voice too

strong forum
#

just plain zombies, weapons, gigantic and beautiful and harsh world

lusty grotto
#

like pubg

#

not this stupidly bad proximity voice warzone 2 has

strong forum
#

well player unknown is the guy who made dayz mod

sick sentinel
#

zombies is fun for a while then it gets boring

lusty grotto
#

ye

strong forum
#

so yeah

#

was bound to be somewhat good

sick sentinel
#

even a good zombie game after while its just same shit

strong forum
#

just too bad they all had a shitty engine

#

and its too bad that dayz SA is built on arma2 engine

#

and not arma3

sick sentinel
#

go through a door, loud noise, tons of zombies,zombies die or you die

lusty grotto
#

yeah that's true i forgot about the arma2 engine thing

strong forum
#

and they made it too realistic

lusty grotto
#

true to arma 🙂

strong forum
#

need the correct ammo type + correct magazine + all parts need to be in good condition

sick sentinel
#

i played a bit of americas army

#

thats a superhardcore game

strong forum
#

if they kept dayz SA akin to dayz mod, just like a few ammo types, not seperate from magazines, just standard water/food meter, and simple crafting/health managament

dusky canopy
#

arma for me is aesthetically cool but i just cant get into it because i spend 90% of the time running around and dyeing before even getting to shoot at someone lol..

strong forum
#

yeah thats part of the appeal

#

it being just very hardcore

dusky canopy
#

I understand the appeal of army sims

#

just isnt for me i guess

lusty grotto
#

yeah i dont like them too much either

#

survival games are another thing but arma-clones are just not my thing

strong forum
#

my ADHD is too powerful these days to still enjoy the slow part of dayz

#

i just tried it today

sick sentinel
#

there was a time when the military was training on VR doom 1

#

us military

strong forum
#

and i just starved cuz my player got sick

#

and i was eternally on catchup from the rain tryna heat back up and scavenge for food

lusty grotto
#

i havent played it in a big while, but the last thing me and my friends did was just to capture people and feed em rotten food

sick sentinel
#

same as doom , but it was just zombiemen far as i know, pretty nuts stuff if you ask me

dusky canopy
#

yeah see.. if im playing a shooter i want to shoot things not collect food and water

#

lol..

strong forum
#

well its not a shooter

#

its a hardcore zombie survival game

dusky canopy
#

fair yes

strong forum
#

with insanely intense pvp

#

cuz boy you cant trust anyone

sick sentinel
#

play how to survive

dusky canopy
#

you might dig project zomboid if youre into that hardcore zombie survival thing

sick sentinel
#

thats a good zombie game

strong forum
#

i used to

#

but project zomboid only looks fun with friends

#

cuz you can fuck around

sick sentinel
#

it gets easy at the end, i beat that game tho

dusky canopy
#

yeah i played it with a group of 3

#

we made it fun for sure

strong forum
#

all my friends refuse to play anything that isnt wow

#

and im kinda over wow currently

sick sentinel
#

i wouldn't play rust because i would be in one of those weird rust guy clips on youtube, dunno if i'd be the attacker or defender

dusky canopy
#

i feel that i just got over my "not into wow" funk

#

found some spice playing arms

sick sentinel
#

i don't play alot of games like that any more where its you collect a bunch of stuff make a base and then you die

strong forum
#

yeah nah i was never into base building

#

i wanted to get into tarkov but it didnt take my email address to register account

#

so i just dont

dusky canopy
#

Tarkov is actually really cool

#

but it falls under the run around for a while and get 1 tapped from 200 yards

#

im actually a founder for that game

#

I bought the 120usd pack and played early alpha

#

er maybe it was a beta test idr lol

#

either way got in early and i get a shit load of stuff every wipe

strong forum
#

i remember them saying they would go open world a few years ago

#

but i lost hope

#

i wish they did, and didnt do the loot hoarding vendor shit

#

and went more dayz style, but i lost hope

dusky canopy
#

that game going more dayz style sounds way way cooler

strong forum
#

yup

dusky canopy
#

i feel like everytime i play that game its like hmm im going to go in as a scav and see if i can catch somebody off guard and get all there stuff

#

instead of risking my own

#

it just sits in the menu inventory

strong forum
#

yup

dusky canopy
#

and or ill do the polar opposite and bring all my shit, die with it

#

and then stop playing until next wipe

sick sentinel
#

i dunno how to check logs for position

#

like that one guy did, but i got hit for 795k creeping rot

lusty grotto
#

click replay

crude notch
#

replay

lusty grotto
#

probably not the best for creeping rot

#

but if you got hit, you got hit

#

nothing to look for on a log

crude notch
#

It fires from her butt

#

That's the part that is tricky

#

It's like Bear's Raze.

proper roost
#

what am i

#

reading

#

oh nevermind i see the context now

crude notch
#

lmao

#

hi kinga

#

well

#

that was unintential

#

hi kanga, how are you?

sick sentinel
crude notch
#

do you have a log?

sick sentinel
#

probably , its not been looked at by me

#

we had multiple points of failure in the key

crude notch
#

Either way based on your quite cluttered screenshot, it looks like you're standing close enough to be considered IN her hitbox.

sick sentinel
#

im responsible for some of it

#

stuff didnt get kicked, ppl die to maggot

#

i might not have a log

#

looks like this log died

#

logs actual dead for me atm

proper roost
#

good i've been playing a deplorable game

#

got a sick belt

#

yeah yogi, on underrot first boss you want to max range melee the boss at all times pretty much

#

and for creeping rot i attack from the side since the attack starts like slightly behind her

sick sentinel
#

no idea

proper roost
#

the animation is a little misleading except as an indicator for which direction the boss is facing

sick sentinel
#

cant be bothered to care

proper roost
#

well i'm just

#

letting you know for the next time you do ur idk

#

it's useful to know

sick sentinel
#

thats the last frame before i took 795k, or should be in the last like, 10 frames before it went off

proper roost
#

yeah the animation is just not exactly it

#

it looks like you're slightly too close to her hitbox from the back there

#

but kinda hard to tell since cow

lusty grotto
#

wait yogi if you cant be bothered to care, why are you posting here?

proper roost
#

don't be mean to yogi

lusty grotto
#

im not being mean its a genuine question

proper roost
#

it's his prerogative to take the advice!!

#

he learns by himself not by being told

#

it's respectable tbh

mighty valley
#

does he learn?

proper roost
#

ye

hazy bronze
#

Yogi deserves mvp