Hunter can literally solo two
#protection
crude notch
crude notch
You're not taking turn evil AND repent though
daring marlin
you could
proper roost
yeah but actually removing one makes it more idiotproof for when 2 spawn and your idiots overlap cc on one
which is relevant when you only have cd ccs
crude notch
Apologies Kanga
you are right
Afflicted now seems to be spawning on 30 second intervals, but isn't required to spawn every interval.
proper roost
i was certain of the 30s thing i just looked it up
delicate lake
Kanga is always right
proper roost
yeah it just sometimes picks 0 because lol
olive bay
Afflicted now seems to be spawning on 30 second intervals, but isn't required to...
They also spawn out of combat. Incorp disappears once you're out of combat
crude notch
ok?
proper roost
i mean i legitimately think wrecking would be one of the best if it worked, it's just that it's really skewed one way or the other. shattering is dogshit and wrecking would be maybe too good
crude notch
I quite literally
was having that discussion earlier
with Kanga
Saying they weren't
LMAO
olive bay
Yeah I was just responding, that's all
olive bay
I wasn't trying to correct you - you didn't say anything wrong
olive bay
aoe fear doesn't hit them
crude notch
i mean i legitimately think wrecking would be one of the best if it worked, it's...
But how when you have classes that can literally deal with both by themselves?
proper roost
yes it does, you just have to target them
olive bay
they are imune to all aoe aren't they?
daring marlin
aoe fear doesn't hit them
If you target them it does
proper roost
the primary target fear works
olive bay
Ohh
crude notch
Like hunter can pre-trap, how is that NOT the most busted?
olive bay
I didn't know that part
proper roost
But how when you have classes that can literally deal with both by themselves?
i mean being "one of" doesn't mean it is the best, but yeah
crude notch
you said too good though
proper roost
i legitimately just think removing one entirely so CD ccs can't get wasted on it would be really good
crude notch
If IT"S too good then 3 other entire classes are too good
proper roost
uh ehh
it's a whole package thing imo
if hunter or warlock were actually good in keys then I think maybe you could argue that
crude notch
Also Druid can spam hibernate as it has no cd so it's not worried about overlaps at all
proper roost
yeah i mean it's just situationally really good ofc
acoustic oasis
Can bears hibernate?
daring marlin
warlocks stay winning
acoustic oasis
Or just dps/healers
crude notch
Can bears hibernate?
Yep in bear form too
It's still a cast in bear form though
so it's unideal but
acoustic oasis
But you dont go non bear?
crude notch
You're a bear so your main mit works
acoustic oasis
Gotcha
acoustic oasis
Just wanted to clarify :^)
crude notch
ik you're good
proper roost
it's 2023 they just cast a bunch of shit in form now
crude notch
i'm in pre-vault mood i'm full fiesta rn
unless you're a cat
🙂
Feral can't cast rebirth or hibernate in form
proper roost
fwiw i don't really think being able to do both incorps is that valuable, maybe that's a hot take
proper roost
but 2 people using 1 gcd each is way better than 1 person using 2 gcds, although
obviously hunter pretrap is way less opportunity cost
but also trap ofc has issues with
triggering on actual mobs sometimes
crude notch
Sounds like a skill issue
I've never had my trap fail on Harlan
maybe i'm just a legend
proper roost
I don't know, is it really a hot take to say that 2 people using 1 gcd each is better than 1 person using 2 gcds?
crude notch
Nah
proper roost
if a warlock has to do 2 frequently they're having a really bad time
crude notch
BM Hunter is like the one exception
And at that point you've narrowed it down
So it's like ok
proper roost
yeah but as I mentioned hunter is just bad for keys in general right now, it's ok for them to have this one thing
i mean survival owns in dps but they also just diege so
crude notch
I blast in my keys as BM but yea
proper roost
and why would you want a sv over like, literally almost any other melee dps minus cat maybe
proper roost
i hope so, my guild needs a second druid of any flavor and kitty cat is kinda fun to play
crude notch
But they are definitely the worst of the 4 specs so
4 druid specs*
Resto, Balance, AND Bear all looking nice for keys in 10.1.5
proper roost
Idk pretty impossible to say in a vacuum that wrecking throw killing incorps would be really good, but at least for both DPS specs you can and would take it 100% for incorp weeks if it was a thing
and just drop fear
daring marlin
100%
crude notch
too bad kanga i put it into the twitterverse
proper roost
maybe "too good" is an overstatement BUT i think actually removing it is actually really good for uncoordinated groups
and/or because sometimes double incorps are kinda messy even with coordination
proper roost
And also wrecking throw is instant unlike most other hard ccs
daring marlin
proper roost
although i guess it has a travel time
daring marlin
play d4 with me
primal crypt
daring marlin
qt
primal crypt
NIM
lusty grotto
nooooo
daring marlin
fuck nimchip
daring marlin
a true studadin
lusty grotto
crude notch
surely you drop Fast Footwork and Shout right?
wait
i was looking at the wrong choice node
proper roost
hasn't nome been talking about how he hasn't been running pain and gain for ages or something
someone has definitely talked about how they have not been running that talent as prot for ages
crude notch
It's in his pinned build
lusty grotto
i just perma talent intervene because im lazy
crude notch
doesn't even believe in his own build
daring marlin
hah intervene perma
crude notch
Nome hasn't ran a key in a month so can we really trust him
proper roost
i think dropping fear is just the lowest impact thing there, if throw didn't have a 3min cd
daring marlin
nimsimp
crude notch
:kappa:
proper roost
i wonder what cd shattering would need to be good for it
1m30s could be ok
really debatable
lusty grotto
i just like to get annoyed at people kiting fixates when i intervene them
its the 1 constant
proper roost
actually, no, I don't think I would take it even at 1m30s
crude notch
its the 1 constant
well yeah most people aren't running with a pwar
People don't even know they can stun the fixate in FH to stop it
lusty grotto
tell that to runners on s1, on fenrir
lusty grotto
at 20+ i would expect it yes
proper roost
people just hate using a single gcd to prevent damage
i still constantly think of the time I was watching my friend's stream on HOI last boss
two inundates casting
4 aoe stops available
Whole group wipes because no one wanted to press them
strong forum
I don't run pain and gain cuz im a member of the bounding stride gang
proper roost
lusty grotto
two inundates casting
lmao
strong forum
Playing without that talent is literal pain
crude notch
at 20+ i would expect it yes
that's on you. there's world first players that don't know how other specs work.
Bounding Stride bis
primal crypt
Playing without that talent is literal pain
a friend of mine said he used your WA
I was like I KNOW THAT GUY
strong forum
😎
crude notch
Nome, also no shockwave?
lusty grotto
that be me
primal crypt
Yes chef
daring marlin
bfa reunion
strong forum
Nome, also no shockwave?
Only in raid
proper roost
I thought the play around dropping P&G was for titanic throw or whatever
crude notch
Ah API issues then in that BH 19 from a month ago lol
strong forum
Ye I just wanted to get the highest overall possible, that was what friends hat
But we wiped on first boss So I lost a small bit of overall
daring marlin
I wish helltides had more densitry
daring marlin
LMAO
proper roost
i'm curious if this refers to anything other than hoi last boss
i mean, definitely tyr hoi last boss I can see it
strong forum
trell is not wrong
proper roost
but mostly wondering if giga long boss slog happens on any other bosses
on high tyr
daring marlin
I could see final boss tyr VP being super long
crude notch
He made up for his tweet earlier in the week
crude notch
yes
proper roost
yeah pretty much 100% a bait post
lusty grotto
ngl that shit is funny
strong forum
I wish helltides had more densitry
im always in a bit of a struggle with them cuz theyre itself not bad
but then you have like 1hr where you go ham and min-max that zone for 1hr
thats exhausting so you then do smth else and chill
and then by the time youre gaming again, next helltide spawned
crude notch
ngl that shit is funny
it got a little more heated with him saying people are delusional if they disagree (no one did, fwiw), but yeah it was hilarious
lusty grotto
lol
crude notch
I think people mistook my "this is a bad way to test" for "Brew is fine defensively"
daring marlin
and then by the time youre gaming again, next helltide spawned
yeah lmao
crude notch
Because brew has always been bad at tests like that
daring marlin
muh mystery chests!
strong forum
like by itself theyre awesome
proper roost
all i know is, good brms seem to randomly fullheal themselves as if they're mini BDKs and I have no fucking idea how to heal them
and bad ones seem to rot like fucking crazy and never purify
daring marlin
I think it'd be cool if they made them more lucrative but spaced them out more
proper roost
like sometimes i'll just get some insane brm that never requires any external healing from tankbusters
and the other times i'll get some chuds who can barely live like 2 nonfort mobs
crude notch
all i know is, good brms seem to randomly fullheal themselves as if they're mini...
yeah they're more like bdk than bdk is rn
proper roost
on like absolutely non tank busty mobs
proper roost
Nice
left basalt
first one to login always gets the loot
uneven mason
Only 1 per universe
proper roost
Also I called it, someone posted 447 (catalyze) tier in fury and bitches about it not being good enough
Classic
daring marlin
LMAO
crude notch
i'm in a lol game
left basalt
444 legs or 441 2hander hmmm
lusty grotto
im capping tomes on the weeb gamne
left basalt
mouse cursor
soz
proper roost
what's with all the magmammoth scales in vaults 💀
left basalt
hot garbo
sick sentinel
bdk main new prot alt here, do we open our vaults as prot or another spec usually?
sick sentinel
im a brand new
nocturne spindle
craft shield open as fury
lusty grotto
open as prot if youre not planning on crafting shield (which you should)
lusty grotto
the only reason you open as fury is for anvil/mark/forgestorm combos
lusty grotto
once you have mark/anvil not worth opening as fury, and anvil is kind meh for keys
left basalt
once you have mark/anvil not worth opening as fury, and anvil is kind meh for ke...
but it makes such a nice sound 
sick sentinel
once you have mark/anvil not worth opening as fury, and anvil is kind meh for ke...
i want forgestorm no?
nocturne spindle
anvil for keys has been good for me
nocturne spindle
you just gotta get good at chaining and knowing when to hold it between packs to keep it STACKED
sick sentinel
only managed to do a heroic on my warr last week but i think chromatic is good for now 
nocturne spindle
yea
lusty grotto
anvil no bueno for keys sorry
sick sentinel
def better than this :kekw
proper roost
bdk main new prot alt here, do we open our vaults as prot or another spec usuall...
Always arms, it's the same with BDK, you should always be opening as unholy
Well
sick sentinel
Always arms, it's the same with BDK, you should always be opening as unholy
yeah i only open as unholy as bdk but prot uses 1handers so i guess fury is better if i dont have forgestorm and dps trinkets
proper roost
almost always, in some weird scenario where you have all the bis dps trinkets you might want to open as blood
sick sentinel
yeah
exactly
my bdk is pretty much bis geared now
now what do we usually attune the essence to?
proper roost
the forgestorm thing is whatever, it's a bit overrated
crude notch
do you have a 450 beacon
sick sentinel
do you have a 450 beacon
sir im raiding with friends in a casual mythic guild :P ill be lucky to see one https://raider.io/characters/us/malganis/dadge?utm_source=addon
thats my dk
should i be using crit on my Essence or is another stat better?
lusty grotto
haste
sick sentinel
oh ok
lusty grotto
crit is fine too
crude notch
sim it
sick sentinel
ty
copy="all secondaries"
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=obsidian
copy="haste"
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=bronze
copy="crit"
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=emerald
copy="mastery"
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=azure
copy="vers"
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=ruby
got it
crude notch
pog
lusty grotto
i mean doesnt raidbot have that in anyway
proper roost
it won't let you sim all of them at once
lusty grotto
oh right
proper roost
but yeah, unless you have some really bad haste value, it should almost certainly tell you to go crit for dps
er I guess it always would actually
sick sentinel
whats your haste at
all the gear is gonna get changed this week hopefully besides trinket boots and wep
crude notch
Another week. Another vault with raid horn.
anvil
rustic tinsel
Any shattering throw enjoyers against incorporeal 
proper roost
no.
rustic tinsel
Can’t believe that was the solution to warrior needing a counter to the affix
urban bane
🙅
lusty grotto
oof
lusty grotto
do you have ITF stacks?
proper roost
Don't rain on his parade let him have the 20% haste
lusty grotto
well he can have more, so im curious
velvet knot
So how does anvil work. How do I use it?
uncut thunder
I see many people use the Ionized Choker - i know most people will say low or no Vers is best but whay is that a common selection?
I have to pick between two necks here -
velvet knot
Idk every top player is using ironized.
undone verge
woo 5 vaults, 5 dissapointments
lusty grotto
you do pretty good damage
but if you drop combat, after 15 secs? you drop your stacks
uncut thunder
Tailsman SIMs higher and does have avoidance on it too
velvet knot
so basically I should chain pull and make my healer cry for mana in m+?
Got it
Say no more
lusty grotto
you need to continously bang the anvil to get stacks
until 5
then you can just stop if you want to
its meh for keys but absolutely great for ST
velvet knot
should i just bind it to avatar or give it its own keybinding?
uncut thunder
I guess teh DPS is not massive diff
velvet knot
I'll just bind it to avatar and track the cd of the trinket with a wa
lusty grotto
i like to micro it a lot more than that
velvet knot
ez fix
sick sentinel
well he can have more, so im curious
im 400 ilvl with gear that was gotten in the last 2 weeks of last season
i am by no means done gearing :p
lusty grotto
ok thats not what i asked
but thanks for the info
im just curious why you went crit enchants while gearing
sick sentinel
do you have ITF stacks?
idk what this means
lusty grotto
into the fray
sick sentinel
wtf already
this is my raid build https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eoY9UZZv3bjPDaokhCsurx
velvet knot
This or rocks?
lusty grotto
on you when you posted the screenshot of your haste
velvet knot
i was told dreadplate is ass
sick sentinel
i might have cause im at 22% haste now?
crude notch
yogi you're aware that maintenance NEVER lasts as long as they say right?
uncut thunder
This or rocks?
Both not great
lusty grotto
ok so with ITF at 5x, you will have a decent amount of haste
crude notch
yes
lusty grotto
dont use crit enchants on new gear though
dark lark
We playing wrecking throw for incorps right
unkempt rover
lusty grotto
yes type "into the fray" in the search thing at the bottom
sick sentinel
what should i enchant sims are going to tell me crit im p sure
bad neck back cloak, boots i already have crafted food
unkempt rover
good?
lusty grotto
@sick sentinel #protection message Pins
proper roost
kinda late, but you do not want to bind Anvil to a 0 GCD ability (like avatar)
since it has a cast time, it'll just... give you a cast time on it
sick sentinel
<@456226577798135808> https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1488979418...
gotcha but haste until what %? or is it always a haste chant angle
lusty grotto
until never
proper roost
also you want to hold onto the stacks between M+ pulls, which requires holding off on its uses entirely after 5 stacking
lusty grotto
you go haste forever
proper roost
Basically you always want to bind anvil separately
and you want to use it while you're mid gcd
crude notch
bind anvil to dn
lusty grotto
thats a good one
sick sentinel
you go haste forever
oh ez
proper roost
no, D and N are terrible keybinds for a trinket
crude notch
no, D and N are terrible keybinds for a trinket
ironically i bind trinkets to D
proper roost
That's insane
proper roost
Wait I have a really funny dn interaction that happened recently, but it's in the context of classic so it's a bit cringe
sick sentinel
my DK binds lol
proper roost
lusty grotto
similar to mine
lusty grotto
i do 1 through 5 and qertfcxz with modifiers too
proper roost
fully confirming the stereotype that only stupid boomers play classic
jagged gust
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/811975858801737759/1122979511563206756/...
GOT EM
proper roost
i guess what elevates the post even more if you know the context is that all of the achievements they are bragging about is pretty much the equivalent of saying that your guild cleared normal mode raid before the end of the season
which granted, I'm sure that's still very much a minority of the playerbase, but still
sick sentinel
ill take the sockets in a little bit
warm plinth
@lusty grotto top tier affix prediction
warm plinth
means we know the rest of the rotation is entangling bursting then volcanic spiteful
sick sentinel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/811975858801737759/1122979511563206756/...
You know he has that shit saved for copy paste ease of access
hazy bronze
Nah spent 5 minutes typing it out
crude notch
this my ring situation on my bear
sick sentinel
need more
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> top tier affix prediction <a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
good job sir
hazy hazel
My raid lead said I should get the sporecloak for mythic prog 🥺
lusty grotto
lol
proper roost
As prot????
vestal harness
so does prot not care about haste dr after 30? do we just stack as much haste as possible?
lusty grotto
as much as possible
vestal harness
so stack as much haste as possible and try to keep crit/verse even? or just commit to one depending on if you want survivabililty or dps
jagged pier
U cant get any amount of vers to keep u alive
lusty grotto
both are surv stats, both are dps stats
lusty grotto
you dont have to keep it even, just pick whatever hast haste AND crit or haste AND vers
as a prio, other stats are good as well
yeah parry is really good
vestal harness
alright cool, thx 🙂
tropic gorge
I'm thinking of going back to the vers flask for raids
lusty grotto
?
lusty grotto
what flask were you using?
strong forum
for raid u use corrupting rage or vers flask
if you use anything but any of those 2 youre kinda trolling
lusty grotto
^
formal pagoda
Might be a silly question, might not be. Is there a reason to not just macro shield block whit other spells?
strong forum
if you play well, no real downside
but if you wanna play optimally, you dont macro it
formal pagoda
Can you elaborate?
lusty grotto
so you are SBing 2x on whatever abilities you have? you will have gaps that are only covered by LS/SC
formal pagoda
So using bouth charges at same time doesnt extend duration, ok, gotcha
strong forum
you can just oversend SB and waste it just before moving towards the next pack in m+
strong forum
So using bouth charges at same time doesnt extend duration, ok, gotcha
it does
lusty grotto
it does
formal pagoda
K, tnx
lusty grotto
if the packs youre pulling last long enough, you will have problems
both defensively (major) and offensively (minor)
restive scroll
if you use anything but any of those 2 youre kinda trolling
Only for raid right?
For mm+ the storm one seems pretty okay to me (stat per enemy attacking you)
urban portal
Not all of m+ is aoe
restive scroll
I meant in general
lusty grotto
i use vers in both
urban portal
Also vers is so absurdly cheap
lusty grotto
yup
restive scroll
It's mostly because it's so cheap
urban portal
If you want to really try hard
jagged gust
chugging phials like you're a witcher
restive scroll
I don't have that kind of gold, so i cannot be a Witcher? :(
strong forum
Only for raid right?
For mm+ the storm one seems pretty okay to me (stat per ene...
primarily yes
gloomy vortex
seal of questionable loyalty 441 or onx ring? I ready somewhere above 440 a diff ring the stats work out better for dps?
for raid
434 crit and 900 haste
crude notch
sim
daring marlin
holy shit people tunneling nelth in heroic is aids
shadow barrier as the second add is up
zzzzzz
warrior with 447 weapon beat me on ashkandur
sick bro
lusty grotto
time for vault
gonna open pally first
well i guess i dont have to do sark on pally anymore
fuck it ill take it
447 tier piece it is, great vault!
daring marlin
pogchip
lusty grotto
wait i dont even use legs
excellent
just two 2 handers this time
maybe next week
😄
ill take it in stride and take the no more sark on pally win
Kanga should i pick the legs or socket, cause im leaning towards socket ngl
stupid hasteless legs
getting a small amount of rage buildup
i suppose double haste BR bracers make up for it kind of
fuck it legs it is
crude notch
Shadow Priest meta much?
warm plinth
seems alright
crude notch
Only 38% of all title holders
That's actually a higher % than any tank or healer.
jesus
jagged gust
good thing they buffed their single target, I was getting worried for them
hazy bronze
But they nerfed the aoe:pepega:
waxen vale
whats the thought on our tank tuning (6% dam buff)
kind of strange to me the way they are doing tank dam buff
waxen vale
well they gave some classes more or less
DK 8%, pally 4% dh 4% warr 6%
monk 7%
also a lot of other changes for other classes
kind of weird to me they would find monk damage lacking
warm plinth
good thing they buffed their single target, I was getting worried for them
They nerfed their single target
crude notch
kind of weird to me they would find monk damage lacking
read again
warm plinth
They completely missed their goal
sick sentinel
sanguine.... god.....
crude notch
It's to compensate for the ring nerfs
waxen vale
i think farming keys and getting annulet would be being an idiot
at this point
but anyway i'm still parsing high
crude notch
yes at THIS point, you're right
jagged gust
I think what I'm gonna miss most when losing the annulet is randomly 1 shotting quest mobs with heroic throw
crude notch
But annulet has been bis for well months
waxen vale
i just started prot warr this patch
yesterday I got a 97 parse with paladin on sark without it so ig its not that good
he has his but i refuse to use
sick sentinel
still do the big triple pull on freehold to start right
crude notch
You're also talking about heroic parses on a tank.
waxen vale
i assume the parses would be lower for mythic
jagged gust
still do the big triple pull on freehold to start right
with lust
crystal mauve
Shadow Priest meta much?
Cool graph, would you mind letting me know where you found it? 🙂
sick sentinel
oh, so how does that work if u lust the first pull then what
crude notch
Cool graph, would you mind letting me know where you found it? 🙂
Yeah I found it from the graph I made 🙂
sick sentinel
whats the other thing u lust, assuming a boss
crystal mauve
Yeah I found it from the graph I made 🙂
oh lol nice job man looks great 😄 Do you have Tank and healer too by any chance?
crude notch
Shameless plug, here's the tank and healer ones. https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/status/1673721266459787265
crystal mauve
Thanks a lot friend 😄
jagged gust
should be able to lust around the pirate trio and last boss once his ability enhance starts. Or alternatively the big pull before final boss, that always feels good to burn down asap
crystal mauve
cut off is only 3085, I thaught it was much higher than this 😮
sick sentinel
main thing i care about right now is get io for 2k to get ksm
warm plinth
Friendly reminder that the remaining affix weeks are:
Tyrannical, Entangling, Bursting
Fortified, Volcanic, Spiteful
uneven mason
So we can counter a single incorporeal once every 3minutes
queen agate
uneven mason
Why is this not exciting
left turret
what are the weakness of prot warriors at m+ atm?
warm plinth
I'm not even running shattering throw. It's insulting.
warm plinth
twitch.tv/nextback_
warm plinth
what are the weakness of prot warriors at m+ atm?
They're not prot pally, vdh, or bear
urban portal
“No utility”
uneven mason
what are the weakness of prot warriors at m+ atm?
People who can't press buttons
crude notch
warm plinth
Less cheese than pally, less damage than vdh, less damage than bear (especially with the 10.1.5 changed)
uneven mason
Huh, is irideus fragment any good? Guessing not since we press a lot of buttons
crystal mauve
Huh, is irideus fragment any good? Guessing not since we press a lot of buttons
Nope
warm plinth
It's pretty bad on anything that doesn't do a lot of passive damage as far as I know
uneven mason
That's what I figured, not that I'm hurting for trinkets but one popped in the vault
jagged gust
bro I want upheaval to be good so bad
lusty grotto
whats the other thing u lust, assuming a boss
captains or trash since its fort
daring marlin
they slightly buffed hellhammer
maybe a phat 820 hellhammer with other proper stuff could make it useful
ionic canyon
Will I be gimping myself too much if I have 3 haste mastery crafted pieces so I can share with fury? I m+ tank but dps raid
crude notch
sir this is a wow chat
daring marlin
lusty grotto
Will I be gimping myself too much if I have 3 haste mastery crafted pieces so I ...
eh, haste mastery is fine
crude notch
you're fine
lusty grotto
but if you want to optimize make a 2nd set
lusty grotto
pls dont remind me of vault
uneven mason
two weeks in a row of sockets
At least sockets are a thing now.
daring marlin
It'll be 447 in no time
uneven mason
Getting that sweet gold from SL vaults as you cry on your m0 shield 8 weeks into castle nath prog
lusty grotto
i completely blocked that off
but at least we had 9 options in SL s1
1 option, 1 chest was fucking pain
uncut thunder
Shameless plug, here's the tank and healer ones. https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/...
Did not realize how rare we have become. Dang.
Oh wait that’s not overall that’s for high m+ title I believe.
lusty grotto
right
uneven mason
1 option, 1 chest was fucking pain
Especially when dealing with azurite gear
sick sentinel
"tank is noob, dh is trash"
sick sentinel
Shadow Priest meta much?
what site is this lol
sick sentinel
Shameless plug, here's the tank and healer ones. https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/...
oh nvm this was you :pog
insta follow for data driven gamers
sick sentinel
lusty grotto
🤔
sick sentinel
17% crit oy
proper roost
No yeah you enchanted speed on boots and not stam??
lusty grotto
dont care, gotta go fast
daring marlin
me go fast
daring marlin
dont care, gotta go fast
🤝
proper roost
Smh
junior brook
leech gamers 🤝
opaque hearth
is the enduring dreadplate worth anything? I have avil, splinter, and grapnel already.
urban portal
Not really no
opaque hearth
didnt think so going by the pins, but i figured I would ask hehe, guess another socket this week
sick sentinel
i wonder wtf that guy meant im noob
crude notch
Ayo how you got 10% speed
you think he's gonna share his dealer like that?
proper roost
Who said that to you yogi I'll fight them
crude notch
we'll mess em up
sick sentinel
i dont think i'll get ksm this week but im most likely hit 1900+ by next reset
need about 170 to go
toxic pewter
nice you got this
proper roost
Nice! do you have a h sark kill
if not, if you get 2k you'll get a heroic tier piece token
lusty grotto
youll get it this week yogi
daring marlin
yogi do you post your own keys or join others mostly?
sick sentinel
more often than not cherry pick something interest in
restive fulcrum
A bit of an odd question, but how odd is it running with anvil/beacon in raid/m+? Two on-use seems a bit annoying and wasnt sure if I should only use one and a passive like ominous essence or if its better to use both the on-uses.
proper roost
anvil doesnt really count as an onuse for the purposes of cd
its on a separate cd to all other onuse trinkets
sick sentinel
im usng heart of thunder in place of anvil as automatic trinket
restive fulcrum
Ahh interesting
proper roost
Just sim it for raid
sick sentinel
and then i got, dread plates on at the moment they stop a ton of dmg is why
lusty grotto
A bit of an odd question, but how odd is it running with anvil/beacon in raid/m+...
anvil + beacon is bis for ST
i really dont like anvil for keys
mark + beacon is what ill eventually use
twin bramble
anyone know which two are the best if crafting for 447 gear?
sick sentinel
i gave up on seeing mark drop
lusty grotto
anyone know which two are the best if crafting for 447 gear?
sim
gear compare
and thats it
with so many good trinkets from raid and keys, i wouldnt craft a trinket though
warm plinth
@crude notch
Paladin: Socket
Hunter: 444 weapon to replace 415
Druid: 441 chest to convert to replace 415 tier chest
Warrior: 441 wrists to replace 415
Priest: 431 legs to replace 376 
Rogue: Socket
warm plinth
yerp
warm plinth
Yeah paladin is 442 though so not surprising
And rogue really is just being held back by two 421 t29 pieces
sick sentinel
lusty grotto
man i dont know how you can do it, these raid reclears kill me
sick sentinel
new shit dropping on the trader thingy
crude notch
yeah that's august
warm plinth
I never remember, ilevel calc is add all, divide by 16 right?
daring marlin
I was wishing for neltharus
daring marlin
although apparently it's fun as dps warrior
proper roost
I got a 22 uldaman on my shaman last week and that's when I knew I would not do any keys that week
proper roost
Kinda yeah but you have to just send sr when the ability is off cd and pray
daring marlin
that shit is ludicrous
proper roost
I haven't tried it on a high tyr key yet but I'm definitely getting a dps war for that key
Same with VP
Just suddenly have to do 10x less healing if the warrior gets the mechanic
warm plinth
The number of fury wars I've played with who don't reflect chain lightning...
or lightning lash
lusty grotto
yeah
warm plinth
Had one today went into the grounding field, remembered he could SR it, ran back out, SRed during channel 🙂
lusty grotto
theres a lot
daring marlin
imagine not taunting bosses and reflecting tankbusters
warm plinth
insta-died lul
daring marlin
lazy ass warriors mang
lusty grotto
but theres also the prots that go into fury/arms circles and then go oh
not gonna name names
warm plinth
You gotta yoink their dam
lusty grotto
but ends with p
proper roost
I am way too afraid to taunt bosses for spell reflect currently
Do not trust pug tanks in 20s
warm plinth
lusty grotto
just do what i do
on pally
see a motherfucker dropping in africa, bubble and kite beam to them
and then go "oh sorry, i was looking for a pool"
make sure you bubble so you stand on their lifeless corpse while staring them down
and then haul ass lol
daring marlin
LMAO
proper roost
i kinda love kazzara tbh
I think the amount of chaos it causes is hilarious
I mean, is it like a good, consistent fight, no
but it's like all personal responsibility = I get to watch my entire raid team fail consistently as everyone keeps making multiple wrong decisions in a row
Which is comedy gold tbh
waxen frigate
Kezzara is the best first fight since shriek
proper roost
it's unironically my favorite fight this tier
(i do not have a high opinion of the boss fights of this tier)
ripe seal
Sludgefist best boss
waxen frigate
Sludgefist best boss
Halondrus > sludge
proper roost
I mean
is there even a fight this tier that's fun as tank lol
i actually think zskarn looks kind of fun to tank
idk about on mythic tho
waxen frigate
Zskarn isn’t fun to exist on
lusty grotto
i love getting yeeted in echo its just what it is okay
proper roost
but i was kind of having fun tanking it on heroic last week
proper roost
i feel like they have almost never really had a tank main on the encounter design team and that side of it has often been dreadfully boring
proper roost
i didn't really play S1 and i didn't raid bfa/sl, but the last time I remember really having fun as a raid tank and like, actually having a good amount of agency was like
ripe seal
Still something
proper roost
spoils of pandaria
daring marlin
spoils certainly was a fight
lusty grotto
sire was a fun fight
waxen frigate
i feel like they have almost never really had a tank main on the encounter desig...
Tanking raid is either
Literally fighting for ur fucking life
Or afk
proper roost
yeah I mean idk
I don't even think it's really that hard to have tanks do fun stuff
they just don't really have a tank main on the encounter design team or something idk
waxen frigate
I I I
I I I _
waxen frigate
they just don't really have a tank main on the encounter design team or somethin...
I don’t think they have a tank main on the entire dev team
proper roost
Extremely old throwback but my goto example was firelands (not biased because that's the expansion I started tanking in)
spider boss, offtank kited add around const did fun shit
bird boss, both tanks had to do fun stuff with add positioning
there was just a lot more things to do1! it was fun!!
tropic gorge
I don’t think they have a tank main on the entire dev team
Sure feels that way. And they seem to use druids for testing
sick sentinel
i put a video of 15 fh on youtube, but the thing is it has AI presidents debating, wasn't sure if i was gunna post the link or not
is adult language
warm plinth
youtube doesn't care about adult language as long it's marked not for kids
waxen frigate
youtube doesn't care about adult language as long it's marked not for kids
Not true
You get demonetized very easily still
warm plinth
proper roost
Why does it have AI presidents debating mid key
warm plinth
Because yogi listens to weird shit while keying
proper roost
I see
crystal mauve
i put a video of 15 fh on youtube, but the thing is it has AI presidents debatin...
Wanna post a link to it into promotion maybe?
sick sentinel
well these are all privated videos anyways, unlisted
waxen frigate
Don’t elaborate yogi
proper roost
Yeah it literally doesn't matter unless you're trying to monetize them yogi
warm plinth
Yeah it's not like he's getting monetized
waxen frigate
Where do they draw the line(s)
waxen frigate
Yeah it literally doesn't matter unless you're trying to monetize them yogi
True
I mean if it has like slurs prob don’t post it
jagged gust
I I I
I I I _
Is this loss?
sick sentinel
it's biden calling trump a tiny brained dick weed
waxen frigate
Is this loss?
Whats that
waxen frigate
it's biden calling trump a tiny brained dick weed
sick sentinel
waxen frigate
Before I go home from work
sick sentinel
hes not wrong about i listen to weird shit in keys some times
cinder storm
sighs
waxen frigate
hes not wrong about i listen to weird shit in keys some times
Me, listening to the AI deepfake of pokimane telling me to kill myself to help me fall asleep every night
cinder storm
you could've added idk, he-man 10hrs heyeyey
crystal mauve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbFQptCdqqk
I’m only 1min in and loving that shit lol
jagged gust
"You can take your spicy word salad and shove it up your orange ass"
cinder storm
~~you could've added idk, he-man 10hrs heyeyey ~~ I'm loving that video so far
crude notch
Me, listening to the AI deepfake of pokimane telling me to kill myself to help m...
you too huh?
cinder storm
And you have the FH music kinda soothing
proper roost
Me, listening to the AI deepfake of pokimane telling me to kill myself to help m...
Link this or else
waxen frigate
Link this or else
I will not link it in a public discord bc it does contain a slur (from the original clip)
But I can DM it if you want
waxen frigate
IT GOT TAKEN DOWN???
Ok alternatives include Emiru, amouranth, and Valkyrae. Take your pick
crystal mauve
Is there any reason why logs don’t consider spell reflect damage in the logs as part of our damage?
daring marlin
oh my god what the fuck yogi LMAO
crystal mauve
It's damage the mob does to itself.
It does make sense now that you put it that way 😦
lusty grotto
presidents ranking smash characters was a fucking riot
waxen frigate
Ya but
lusty grotto
thats the only one ive seen so its the greatest one
waxen frigate
Have you heard the SpongeBob ft. Peter Griffin cover of “in the end” by linkin park?
lusty grotto
also ranking zelda waifus
lusty grotto
lmaoo
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZUHT6wN78 i dunno how they do it but yugioh music is always fuckin bumpin
tv, game, doesn't matter, always has good music, acceptable at least
daring marlin
yogi there's a WA that prevents you from jumping when you have the debuff in FH
I need to grab it myself lmao
sick sentinel
i don't know the don't jump debuff you mean
crude notch
yogi there's a WA that prevents you from jumping when you have the debuff in FH
wait there IS
sick sentinel
which boss does it? or its trash leading up to
sick sentinel
ohhh, that crap
lusty grotto
fuck i just got randomly reminded of the dumb bananas in siege
crude notch
gimme siege and shrine
lusty grotto
except without the bananas please
sick sentinel
siege was such a heart break dungeon
lusty grotto
i bet its going to be AD though
sick sentinel
it was, if you couldnt clear the first boss without anyone dying, it was a sign the key would implode on 3rd and final boss
daring marlin
i bet its going to be AD though
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
sick sentinel
2nd boss hurt alot, but 3rd and last were turbo walls for timer
crude notch
gimme siege, shrine, coen, and skyreach
sick sentinel
axe bitch would destroy so many pugs
daring marlin
totem bullshit
crude notch
you just want KR for gettiku
daring marlin
the council boss itself will be the best
sick sentinel
i had soooooo many wipes on that stupid axe woman
uneven mason
You know they'd nerf the snot out of shade of zul
daring marlin
zul will make people mald so much
sick sentinel
i think 2nd boss is worst part of KR
it can be a really really tough fight on tyranical
uneven mason
"how do you deal with zul on fort"
Pop all CDs
Pump aggro for 6s
Leap and try to los before SW drops
proper roost
sometimes I feel fomo from having missed bfa
sick sentinel
is zul final?
proper roost
And then I remember how much bitching everyone did about azerite gear
daring marlin
azerite gear was shit bro
uneven mason
He was a trash mob before last boss
sick sentinel
like, what kills ppl on zul, its not the ceiling trap
daring marlin
It was shit until the very end even
proper roost
so much bitching that I wasn't even remotely playing wow and I heard about it daily from friends
daring marlin
it never got better
proper roost
🙏
sick sentinel
oh, right, that dude
proper roost
also it unironically feels like I'll just eventually do all of the bfa dungeons as keys by the end of df somehow anyway
sick sentinel
theres also the lightning dudes after first boss was really gross too
daring marlin
you already got to do mechagon in SL right?
sick sentinel
that whole room 4 packs, you dont know which are going to spawn, that was pretty rough
proper roost
Yeah SL had mechagon in s4? i think
uneven mason
Azerite gear was an entire expansion of refarming the same chest shoulders and helm because they had the perfect set of traits
uneven mason
Until corruption
proper roost
i didn't actually play s4 more than like a week but mechagon looked cool
daring marlin
more like 40ish% but yes
toxic pewter
s4 of bfa was great, one of my all time favorite patches so far
daring marlin
because nyalotha was pretty fun and awakened was fun
toxic pewter
yah that sums it up perfectly, it was just fun
proper roost
Was it bfa that put shield block and shit on gcd
uneven mason
Yeah I caught the tail end of bfa, enough to get aotc and see the meme
toxic pewter
wasnt avatar on gcd too
proper roost
I think I quit before prepatch in protest cuz shor was put on gcd and I was certain it would make ppal play like shit
Never found out if that was true or not
daring marlin
It was all pretty shit
uneven mason
wasnt avatar on gcd too
Yup everything was GCD
toxic pewter
season 3 and 4 of shadowlands also owned
daring marlin
IP managed to stay on until 8.1?
proper roost
Wild
uneven mason
They gave us azerite that let avatar buff mastery and cast IP to compensate for it being on gcd
daring marlin
yeah so like
your avatar windows were basically alternating ip and TC
cuz tc was yuge in avatar then
proper roost
The funny thing is I have run into so many people now that only started playing in bfa or their first time playing competitively was in bfa, it's really fascinating considering how old the game was even then
daring marlin
we're old
compact radish
Is Undulating Sporecloak a good embellishment for us?