I'm just curious because you say that it's bad circle move out, but I've watched you just stand in ragestorm in Brackenhide like it doesn't exist (which don't get me wrong; that's fine because it's blockable anyway)
#protection
warm plinth
proper roost
ok tbf that one is understandable
sick sentinel
yeah, on that first attempt this week, for whatever reason my brain said get out of the circle and was having cognitive dissonance about it
proper roost
those guys come with a bunch more mobs
sick sentinel
went away on second run
formal elbow
i tanked after a very very long break again, i understand why much pals stopped tanking...people have no patience anymore..its super annoying in dungeons :<
sick sentinel
The worst trope is someone who is a noob or you are in a group with noobs and he on purpose goes and pulls more for you not like a butt pull or they don't know how or when to pull more for u
warm plinth
I pull like a fucking madman and I still have people try to pull shit for me.
uneven mason
I pull like a fucking madman and I still have people try to pull shit for me.
The best part is they'll bitch when a caster they pulled fucks their couch because they couldn't be bothered to kick
formal elbow
i just go with my +kind of tanking+ if someone does not like it, shit happens....and i did only lvling dungeons so far...i am a bit afraid of m+ ^^
oh ya a question: the wowhead guide for prot warrior seems a bit outdated..or is the neck of s1 crafter neck still good? when i check good warriors who tank mythic raids, not 1 of them is wearing it....which crafting items i should aim for? maybe 1hand+shield or neck?
fresh igloo
have you looked in the pins here
warm plinth
oh ya a question: the wowhead guide for prot warrior seems a bit outdated..or is...
The wowhead guide is often outdated tbh. Pins here are always your best bet (as well as #268491842637660160)
fresh igloo
lariat isn't really a thing anymore, yeah. crafted pieces are like shield, belt, boots, wrists, etc.
warm plinth
You want 2x shadowflame for embellishments this season
Or 1 shadowflame and frostfire belt
fresh igloo
^
formal elbow
ok thank you guys 🙂 will check pins
jagged gust
What's the timing to not miss a reflect on Dagrul, should I just be popping SR the moment landslide goes off?
shit always feels so tight
warm plinth
Just pop it as you're running back. You have like 2 or 3 seconds easy
Or as you charge, idr if it knocks you far enough to charge
hollow scroll
Just pop it as you're running back. You have like 2 or 3 seconds easy
Running back... charge is your friend
Okay u saved it
warm plinth
I don't play pwar right now
hollow scroll
Sadge
crude notch
Deadge spec
warm plinth
Well, not entirely true I guess. I do a key as prot now and then but I'm enjoying fury rn
hollow scroll
Refuse to believe pwar is dead,I played it s1 of SL and I'll continue to play it forever
jagged gust
getting the reflect is easy, I just mean if I pop SR as he's casting i'll have like .5 seconds before its off cd for the next one
hollow scroll
Fury hurts my hands too much now 😦
hollow scroll
Old washed up pwar
hollow scroll
getting the reflect is easy, I just mean if I pop SR as he's casting i'll have l...
This, reflecting 2nd boss is the hard one 😦
restive scroll
getting the reflect is easy, I just mean if I pop SR as he's casting i'll have l...
Yeah you can reflect first and second, cd third.
Gotta precast the first one for this to not be too tight.
But you can also reflect first and third, and cd second, as the magma wave gives you plenty of time for the next p1
warm plinth
Yeah you can't reflect them all anyway
Just every other
Well, third and then 4th because magma wave
restive scroll
That's probably better as it should give you a shield wall for 5th or 6th that way.
Haven't checked the timing of the reset of sw
warm plinth
It's around a minute
w/ proper play ofc
But you also have a landslide w/o a magma crash either right after the wave or maybe the next one? Idr off the top of my head
crude notch
GHASH HOW AM I TO LIVE WAITING SO LONG FOR MY VAULT
warm plinth
idk Jordan but I am ready for mine too
crude notch
How many vaults you have this week?
My phone kept trying to autocorrect that to balls
warm plinth
6 I think? Pal, Rogue, War, Druid, Priest, Hunter
crude notch
Mage, Warlock, Rogue, Hunter, Warrior, DK, Druid, Monk, Pally.
9 vaults. That serotonin hit.
warm plinth
feelsgoodman
Jordan I did very poorly with leveling this week
😢
(the 68/69 ones are gonna be 70 once I do professions)
crude notch
Enoper 
warm plinth
I was pretty proud of that one. And Evochra till I found out I misspelled okra 
jagged gust
Just every other
Okay yeah SR every second with a SW in between felt a lot cleaner
it really feels like you can SR them all though with proper pre casting
crude notch
as of this very moment there is exactly the same number of Prot Pallies as Vengeance DHs in title range in EU/NA.
proper roost
vdh confirmed dead spec
crude notch
what?
proper roost
huh?
crude notch
Smallest io jump for title range too this week, season ded.
Coincidentally the two smallest jumps in title io were afflicted weeks. Guess that's the worst affix this season.
warm plinth
I don't mind afflicted personally but know a lot of folks who hate it
crude notch
Yeah i'm more likely to contribute the two smaller jumps to D4 release (first afflicted week) and TR access granted (this afflicted week) than actual disdain for the affix.
I think if VDH doesn't run away with it after TGP, this could end up being the most "balanced" season for tanks in M+ ever.
In a wizard meta are PWars and Monks just destined to be bottom two in popularity no matter their strength?
remote venture
I don't mind afflicted personally but know a lot of folks who hate it
The main issue that some classes can't do anyhting on them but I like it better then Incorpation
crude notch
More classes can do something to incorporeal than afflicted, though.
remote venture
More classes can do something to incorporeal than afflicted, though.
The main issue that you can stack CC on the same incorporeal, that can't happen wih afflicted. But yes, more classes can do something about it.
I like both affix makes us use abilties that we didn't use any more because CC trash is somehting we don't do
proper roost
incorp is good
afflict is meh
i've had a few fun tense moments with incorp where we had to perfectly sync kicks for one
and that was cool
would not be surprised if afflic does not make it to s3 but incorp does
I still would like 2 different colors for the incorp, so when 2 spawn you can coordinate more easily than "near/far"
crude notch
idk we're in the mail it in part of the expansion
proper roost
maybe
people are speculating the slowing release schedule is the consequences of the like
10.0 wfh employee kerfuffle
or rather slowing balance changes and shit
crude notch
I actually don't think they'll remove any affix after one season of it actually. I don't believe in the mail it in meme.
proper roost
idk afflic and incorp are just too similar but one is just way worse
i'm sure they can think of a cool different affix to try out
crude notch
But what makes you think they'd delete an affix after one season sample size?
We've had bad affixes last multiple expansions, so one lasting more than one season isn't really that wild.
proper roost
mostly because i feel like it's too similar to incorp
crude notch
Is entangling getting removed too?
proper roost
but yeah maybe 1 season sample size is too small to shake things up
crude notch
Because it's equally similar to volcanic
proper roost
no i think entangling is actually reasonably different from other affixes
remote venture
I like entangling. It's better quacking
proper roost
being able to clear it via snare clears is kind of interesting
warm plinth
The main issue that some classes can't do anyhting on them but I like it better ...
Well, if I'm on a spec that can do it, cool. If not, I just pretend the affix doesn't exist.
proper roost
i like the affixes that let you use class utility to clear em
remote venture
My party dieded in Season 1 Halls when we teleport the same time and quacking was trigger ☠️
proper roost
entangling is a joke affix (mostly) for sure but idk
remote venture
Well, if I'm on a spec that can do it, cool. If not, I just pretend the affix d...
Yes, that is true. It become issue when people don't get you in PUGs.
crude notch
Affixes being similar to each other (which I don't consider afflicted and incorp to be) isn't really a reason to remove them
warm plinth
Yeah, tbh I haven't had a huge amount of issue with it outside of I think one key
proper roost
we will have to see how afflicted is next rotation around 🧐
crude notch
Dispelling and CC'ing are quite different interactions.
proper roost
well of course not
crude notch
The only similarity they share is a mob
remote venture
People seems hype for no affix week when Blizzard forgot to set them. It would fun just for one week to see how it goes 🤷♂️
proper roost
but they are eating a gcd on occasion, insofar as "affix that yoinks your attention every 30/45s" it's very similar imo
just my opernyun
crude notch
People seems hype for no affix week when Blizzard forgot to set them. It would f...
it'd be fun for one week sure
warm plinth
No affixes would be boring as hell in my opinion.
proper roost
yeah no affixes suck
crude notch
But after a week, it'd be like welp what do we do now.
warm plinth
Yeah no affixes just means everyone would giga push that week and then you'd just...have nothing to do lol.
remote venture
That is true
warm plinth
And if it was only for one week, then what's the point in doing keys any other week because you aren't going to do keys as high with affixes than you would with none
remote venture
I was thining like still Trash week and Boss Week. But it will be push weeka nd maybe too easy
crude notch
That'd be horrible design
You'd be encouraging your players to NOT play any other week
warm plinth
A lot of the difficulty of keys right now comes from fort and tyr. I'd say those are a good ~60-70% of the difficulty of a dungeon, if not more.
Especially with some affix combos
crude notch
rampage
winter kiln
oh mb
remote venture
You'd be encouraging your players to *NOT* play any other week
Yes, I agree. It would be no affix for the whole season. I agree affixes makes it more fun for M+.
jagged pier
Thats fury mindset right there
winter kiln
yeah sorry !:
jagged pier
KEKW
crude notch
We love you spitfire.
winter kiln
Thats fury mindset right there
the spec was made for me
warm plinth
Yeah uh
Why are you pressing so many buttons before your first CDs 👀
should be Ava+Reck+Charge>Ravager>Rampage>Spear>Rampage
winter kiln
ok, thanks for that already
crude notch
why doesn't timeline show half the CDs
wtf
hello WCL?
oh because it's set to damage done pepega
Is this true @warm plinth ??
the strat for hoi first boss is now to drop the puddles on the boss as a group, and all 5 run out of the puddles with the boss?
warm plinth
why the fuck would that be the strategy lol!
So 5 people can take damage instead of 3???
crude notch
apparently someone's response was
This is the meta strat regardless of comp. Typically you will have a priest MD the debuff instantly and everybody will run out of the puddle. Lock gate can be nice for this
warm plinth
"regardless of comp" "typically you will have a priest" ok dude
proper roost
that does seem to be the strat for high tyr
you just use movement cd for every one
cuz yeah the dot tick is way worse than just mding it off
crude notch
but then it's not regardless of comp
warm plinth
Yeah, it's "if you have a priest"
proper roost
err yeah saying regardless of comp is weirdge
but even with a spriest they run oom after a bit so you have to use self snare dispels and shit
warm plinth
oom from what?
warm plinth
errr
I'm just thinking how many casts you have to do. Does the shortened CD have it up for every overload?
Because that'd be a 25 sec CD
proper roost
it's always available, you just run oom on a long tyr fight because they regen slow
warm plinth
idr how close they are
proper roost
Idk exactly how many mass dispels you get before you're oom
proper roost
but spriest has self dispel with fade as well and prot pally and shit
so i think you're supposed to just rotate
crude notch
rio's new vod feature is so pog for something like this
warm plinth
🤔 Does snare removal remove power overload? It's not a snare or root?
proper roost
ah maybe i'm just remembering dwarf or some shit. it's been a while since i've watched my friend do them
crude notch
You have it for every one
and the mana for it for every one.
as long as you're spriest
and not any other kind of priest lol
crude notch
Oh they're not consistent
proper roost
but they save major movement cds every time
proper roost
It's kinda wild they did 24s so early and it's slowed down so much now
crude notch
i mean i don't need a vod of someone else's run when I can see 80 of them rn
proper roost
vod dn
crude notch
It's kinda wild they did 24s so early and it's slowed down so much now
really not that uncommon.
proper roost
I wonder if the healing requirements this season are like
something they really intend going forward
crude notch
Especially considering like, you don't have avoidance on TR.
Is Neltharus Fort freer than Freehold? Because of chains.
proper roost
i hear high fort freehold is kinda wacky with the damage intake, like lots of random sources of damage
with the ricochet daggers mob w/e it is
crude notch
I think "we" have to find a new route in there.
proper roost
isn't the giga high pull strat for nelth fort just insane chain abuse
crude notch
yea
4 minutes under on a +27.
I just don't think you live a +28 of some bosses even on fort.
proper roost
bruh what
the highest nelth clear was 4 minutes
under time
tf
It's literally just that team
minmaxing the fuck out of nelth
amazing
crude notch
I hope we get some of these TW teams in TGP
Wonder what the Echo bois are cooking up
Why is this of all the seasons the one I want to get back into healing
proper roost
its fun tho
Challenge is fun
is just a bit mentally taxinf
Can spam keys on tanks or dps but healer kinda need a break after like two
queen agate
hello guys !
jagged gust
aho young warrior
jagged pier
👋
queen dock
any decent vids for prot tanking? General priorities, rotation and cd use cases? My brain turns off reading text dumps.
crude notch
Well priorities and rotations are the same thing
And cds just mostly use when they're up, a bad cd usage is better than no cd usage
queen dock
Alright I guess. Coming from XIV tanking so it's obviously more different than I thought.
warm plinth
Ok I will give you very short cheat sheet that will get you started
jagged pier
warm plinth
Protection Warrior - Cliff Notes Edition
1. Use the builds in the pins (pick the one for the content you're doing).
2. Keep Shield Block up at all times.
3. Use all offensive CDs (including Demoralizing Shout) on cooldown. This also includes Last Stand once you have 2pc of the current tier set.
4. Use Shield Wall frequently; it has around a 1 minute CD with proper play.
5. Priority rotation is Shield Slam>Thunder Clap>Revenge regardless of ST or AoE. Revenge is your primary rage dump. If you're at risk of overcapping either because you can't dump fast enough with Revenge or you're getting a lot of SS resets and can't cast Revenge, you use Ignore Pain.
6. Refer to this for mechanics that are blockable, reflectable, or spell blockable. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS26lkSc_eaulHX7-UY8Uu-7DAHvkScxh3npd0kQn3uvvWsgsQm9ducLUi4R2mb7ieNluVilyq5sQe5/pubhtml#
remote venture
Pinnable
warm plinth
@queen dock ^
dark lark
Holup let him cook
jagged gust
The urge to turn down a 10ilvl upgrade because it has vers and mastery on it
jagged pier
🤔
lime urchin
Uh oh
sick sentinel
**Protection Warrior - Cliff Notes Edition**
**1.** Use the builds in the pins ...
on the flip side, things to look out for that you might be doing bad as protection warrior
warm plinth
That's helpful too, ty yogi
crude notch
kekw
frank condor
guys prot warrir stat in dungeon is crit haste?
sick sentinel
guys prot warrir stat in dungeon is crit haste?
haste + x, crit is slightly better than mastery or versa
frank condor
thanks
crude notch
I can die happy ghash added me
warm plinth
jagged pier
Who does the pinning? Nome and Jakey?
Pins are already full and we tend to try and avoid long messages in them, can ask nome to update the faq with it tho
warm plinth
I make smol
Prot War Cliff Notes Version - #protection message
How Block Works - #protection message
Common Mistakes - #protection message
jagged pier
But that might also be a no as it has max char length
So having the links saved probably the best thing
warm plinth
I'm just gonna paste this from my disc every time someone asks a basic question
jagged gust
can probably consolidate some of the pins, too
warm plinth
tbh we should use message links more in our pins. like instead of having a giga long pin, you just pin a message that's just a link to message you want to pin
jagged gust
Like the IP WA doesnt need it's own pin
jagged pier
tbh we should use message links more in our pins. like instead of having a giga...
True
jagged gust
or Stance swapping macro
warm plinth
Like instead of this wall, we could have like:
Common Questions: #protection message
strong forum
Tbf that shit is just copy pasted from FAQ
jagged pier
I mean that is the faq
flint plank
lmao
strong forum
And people struggle to find that so I'm just very lazy
flint plank
i agree i think we need a FAQ section
strong forum
We have one 🙂
jagged pier
I mean ppl dont check the pins ither
strong forum
It's 1 long post, not very thematically linkable
warm plinth
THAT PEOPLE DON'T CHECK PINS?
strong forum
Besides linking the entire thing
flint plank
i think most of the annoyance comes from people just not knowing much about pins
discord should give pin walkthrouhs
flint plank
now ur expecting people to do mechanics to get to the pins
jagged gust
maybe it's one of those things where people don't understand what a pin means
flint plank
ya i think that too
jagged gust
Like how kids dont know what the save file icon is
flint plank
lol
warm plinth
I mean, you gotta pick your battles. We're not gonna have Discord 101 classes in the prot war channel XD
uneven mason
Like how kids dont know what the save file icon is
It's funny because it's true
queen dock
you dont see that on mobile
flint plank
true
warm plinth
Again, gotta pick your battles.
Our job is to teach prot warrior, not teach Discord for Beginners
crystal mauve
Would you say that the overall is higher or lower in tyranical vs fort? Did 85k in HoI 21 yesterday and felt kinda good about it but some tell me that for high keys I should pull t least 100
warm plinth
Fort, because you're hitting multiple targets for longer than you are on tyrannical.
And you do more damage in AoE than you do on ST
uneven mason
Our job is to teach prot warrior, not teach Discord for Beginners
Job... wait we're supposed to get paid
I'm just here because of the daily
jagged gust
Job... wait we're supposed to get paid
An RPer invites all of us to Goldshire inn every sunday for a job well done
sick sentinel
your gunna get paid in flightstones and shitty gear you dont need and your gunna like it
warm plinth
yogi spitting facts today
ok it's time for 
Good night friendos
Love you @sick sentinel
Love you @crude notch
crude notch
sleep well king
mellow bridge
Would you say that the overall is higher or lower in tyranical vs fort? Did 85k ...
Always higher on fort
sick sentinel
4 hour down time heads up
proper roost
good luck on your vaults kings
jagged gust
who needs luck when you've got the homies winning for you
undone verge
Who needs luck when you get insanely lucky on your prot warrior then get told to reroll dh cause dh better for sark 😢
proper roost
sounds about right
Tbf it's never been a better season to be a raid tank main. Insanely easy to gear up an alt
Doesn't really matter if your main is shelved for a couple bosses almost zero gear diff
jagged gust
Yeah the crafted catchup system is pretty legit
lime urchin
If you want good vault, don’t play for 4 weeks and watch blizzard bait you back with juicy gear in the vault
Works every time
twin bramble
If we’re crafting for 447 gear, are the crafted trinkets crap?
crystal mauve
If we’re crafting for 447 gear, are the crafted trinkets crap?
Unless you have full 447 in all non tier slots I tribu you are better farming trinkets. That being said it probably won’t matter too much unless you do really difficult content
proper roost
considering the vast majority of 447 crafts are (minus M Echo/Sarkareth 450 loot) actually fully BiS
it's kind of a waste of sparks to make trinkets out of them, which are all easily replaceable by farmable dungeon trinkets
Especially since in 2 weeks megadungeon releases which ALSO has 441 trinkets
twin bramble
Gotcha. I just hit everything 441 and ran out of goals. So thought I’d try for all 447. Lol
But wasn’t sure if the trinkets were useless
twin bramble
Got it. Thanks!
waxen vale
4 hour downtime means 12 pm est?
twin bramble
Especially since in 2 weeks megadungeon releases which ALSO has 441 trinkets
What is mega dungeon??
waxen vale
Or 1 pm?
twin bramble
Ooo thanks!
vocal nimbus
A megadungeon is a million dungeons
twin bramble
It looks like it drops 421 gear?
sick sentinel
its not today tho right
if i have to do that maze crap today, im guna lose my mind
proper roost
lol no it's in 10.1.5
hazy bronze
July 11
sick sentinel
i feel like it should be like, if its only 1 guy makes it but rest can skip, like, its like you have to take a slow ass bubble
the bubble skip of shame
jagged gust
shun, shun the bubblers
sick sentinel
yah, begon paladins
proper roost
i feel like it should be like, if its only 1 guy makes it but rest can skip, lik...
I mean there is a skip
I'm not sure how many people need to finish the maze
but once like 1-2 people get to the end there is a portal or some shit
it's really not an issue
daring marlin
Are servers down now?
sick sentinel
very very soon
unique cobalt
server will be down?
sick sentinel
within moments
unique cobalt
fuck
sick sentinel
rip push week, i should have pushed alot harder
proper roost
i think the statistics showed it was very much not a push week
unique cobalt
how do you get into +20 group? I've been lucky to join one, timed key, other no in time, and can't find single group to accept me , am 2.5K rio and 441 ilvl
twin bramble
I had the same issue
443 ilevel and 2500+
Got into like 2 all week because I’m not a pally haha
unique cobalt
some group state ( only pala or bear )
sick sentinel
i got quite alot done this week, gained about 95 io
unique cobalt
I guess i need an alt now 💔
sick sentinel
i need ksm before i need an alt
unique cobalt
hahahah
proper roost
I mean, just use your own key
You are a tank
If you solo post a key you will get a hundred signups
Even if you have to wait 5 minutes to fill your key what difference was there from waiting 5 minutes to get into someone else's key
crude notch
First off, the fact that you think you're getting declined over ONLY pallies, proves you're just blowing smoke out your ass
Because I hate to break it to you but Pally isn't the meta tank any more.
proper roost
I truly don't get you guys whinging about 2500 io not using your own key. It literally won't matter what key you run you literally just need ANY keys at 20
sick sentinel
i see a ton of variety in sign ups for keys for low keys below 15
unique cobalt
thats true, am sorry mr @crude notch .
proper roost
So what if your key is a tyr hoi or whatever. Brick it and you'll have learned
sick sentinel
every tank except dk gets lots of invites, tons of bear druids some reason
tons of warrior
crude notch
You're not the only tank applying and if you're sitting at 2.5k you're not the highest io person applying, stop being weird and blaming the spec and the meta.
proper roost
stg people treating their own key like its some holy grail and literally never use it
sick sentinel
i tried using my own key in 9.1
unique cobalt
jordan, that's too personal man, am just chatting with people
proper roost
it's really not because you're not unique in your complaint
sick sentinel
that didnt work well , so im not as much a fan of that method, not invalid method, i just don't prefer it
proper roost
this is like the 500000th "i'm X io and i think my spec is why i'm not invited!" complaint
Ever since M+ was put in
And it's literally still not true
crude notch
Yeah this isn't aimed exactly at you @unique cobalt
proper roost
actually before that people bitched the same way about raids and regular heroics and shit too so
crude notch
Notice how I didn't hit reply on anything you said or pinged you
unique cobalt
Notice how I didn't hit reply on anything you said or pinged you
True, am sorry again.
crude notch
Wait, you weren't even the one that said you were 2.5k and blaming pallies so Idk how you viewed that as me going after you.
LMAO
sick sentinel
i think alot of us are forgetting the terrible raid experiences we had in original TBC
proper roost
they are, jordan
proper roost
Anyways if your gear sucks and you don't enjoy the class then reroll, this season is great for it
cinder storm
The noob is still prevalent, we just have more addons
crude notch
Kanga
twin bramble
You're not the only tank applying and if you're sitting at 2.5k you're not the h...
I think you misunderstood my point. Not talking about meta at all. It’s because pallys have dispell this week and we don’t.
sick sentinel
so invite a ret pala or hpal
lime urchin
Make friends and play together. M+ isn’t made for pugging
sick sentinel
problemn solved
proper roost
I think I take socket like 3 weeks in a row on my warrior and I am very happy for it
crude notch
VDH and BDK don't have the dispel either
proper roost
i just need to do enough keys to get a 441+ helm sometime within the next 5 weeks
sick sentinel
well played ret paladin is a god
crude notch
Now incorporeal week now that DK can CU it, good night. lol
Yo kanga
I did my own key
On my MW
and was like y'know what I"m a gigachad I can do this without any dispels
unborn hedge
Quick question: do you generate more rage in battle stance than defencive stance or is it the same amount?
proper roost
If you're so pressed about afflicted, use your own key and invite 4 other people who can dispel
twin bramble
I’m so confused about the blow up haha
crude notch
never again
twin bramble
I did use my own key all week
proper roost
and was like y'know what I"m a gigachad I can do this without any dispels
💀 even on my shaman I don't do this
sick sentinel
use the weak aura that shows whos already in the group
so you can see whats in the group BEFORE you join
sick sentinel
and then you don't run into that problem as hard
twin bramble
Someone said they were having issues getting invited this week. And I said I am too. Because people keep telling me they aren’t inviting because I’m not a pally with dispell. That’s all. Chill bruh.
proper roost
if you're using your own key then why are you having trouble getting invited
The story don't match up chief
crude notch
doesn't MW have trouble healing the second spirit too
Literally the only thing in any key I ever have to focus
proper roost
You do the invites
crude notch
lol
cinder storm
He keeps getting his key depleted so he tried to apply to some keys he needed for io
proper roost
I mean
cinder storm
He's said it before
crude notch
Only time I use soothing mist on a target is when it's an afflicted soul.
proper roost
If the key depletes it is like 90% of your fault
If you have invited people who would deplete the key
Wait 2 more minutes and invite someone who is higher io, who is higher ilvl
You have no obligation to invite the 422 dps to your +18
sick sentinel
There are listing things you can do to attract people into your group more easily
twin bramble
Lol I was just replying to someone who said they were having issues getting invited.
sick sentinel
+14 LAIR healer, works
twin bramble
And I helped explain why.
unborn hedge
Can anybody assist me with something. I'm aware we have to be in battle stance for m+ but do you generate more rage in battle stance, defencive stance or is the rage generation the same regardless of which stance?
proper roost
Rage is the same
cinder storm
Doubt, theres bad dps on 21s as you'd find on a 17, io makes no difference
proper roost
You just want to minimize Dstance usage because damage clears content, tank damage is substantial
Removing 15% of your damage is not good
Generally you should not have to dstance ever below like 22s given that you're appropriately geared for the content (i.e. not doing 20s at 420 ilvl)
unborn hedge
So battle stance just for dps increase but the rage is the same regardless of stance
cinder storm
I have to agree, best way to move forward is to make friends, reduce the pug affix by having more people you know are solid
crude notch
BStance is more a defensive gain than DStance because a dead mob does no damage. Don't at me.
proper roost
Everything else works the same sure. It's literally just the passive effects listed on each stance
daring marlin
TLDR yogi implying dk worst tank
crude notch
yeah idk, i never have problems running my own key maybe I just know what to look for
daring marlin
kinda weird
uncut thunder
How many spark of shadow flame should we have at this point?
crude notch
4.5
daring marlin
kanga I'm prolly taking socket this week on warrior
sick sentinel
well no, i dunno, i see alot of of the other classes and it doesn't seem like see alot of dk, i see alot of variety and not only paladin and bear
is the point im after
daring marlin
Crafting mat for pally tho
proper roost
There was some guy a few weeks ago who complained that he depleted his own key from a 21 to a 14
daring marlin
Gonna make 2h
proper roost
And like idk man. At what point do you recognize that you are the problem
daring marlin
There was some guy a few weeks ago who complained that he depleted his own key f...
NO SHOT LMAO
proper roost
It was in here
daring marlin
dude paid for a 21 boost the week prior
crude notch
Thanks. And what is the catch up mech if you did not do the quest each week?
Just do stuff
keys raid
uneven mason
Thanks. And what is the catch up mech if you did not do the quest each week?
Just do content
daring marlin
That's crazy
crude notch
raid is the most consistent
proper roost
oh yeah that sounds way more likely than what I was thinking
uncut thunder
Ok I feel like I’m off one or so. I have crafted 2 pieces and have one left.
sick sentinel
gets a 20 boost, gets a 21 key, giga deplete, seen it coming from a mile a way and story old as time aint it
daring marlin
Ok I feel like I’m off one or so. I have crafted 2 pieces and have one left.
Check your bank
crude notch
Yeah I never really thought setting up a group was a skill but the more I hear people's horror stories about depleting their own keys the more I realize, maybe it is.
proper roost
kanga I'm prolly taking socket this week on warrior
Honestly it's really comfy knowing that I WANT to take socket multiple weeks in a row rn. if I get the like 2 out of 400 items that are good, then it owns, but otherwise I mostly want socket
daring marlin
Yeah I never really thought setting up a group was a skill but the more I hear p...
wait wait wait are you telling me I should actually VET the applicants to my key?
twin bramble
if you're using your own key then why are you having trouble getting invited
I’m so lost. I did use my own key. Pushed from 2200 to 2500 this week with my own keys lol.
sick sentinel
i don't
proper roost
I had to do some last minute heroic pug on my shaman last night at 2 am to get 3 vault slots on my shaman though 💀 that was so cursed
crude notch
Ask them their star sign
sick sentinel
first people that sign up are typically first ppl i invite
uncut thunder
Check your bank
Yeah I’ll look again if I have the splinters and didn’t realize. I did 2/9 n and 8/9 heroic and about 10 M+ this week and I don’t think I got a splinter
proper roost
i went through 6 different heroic groups
to get 4 boss kills
and wiped three times on magmorax of all things
crude notch
I did a rq 13 FH On my BDK and was top dps.
sick sentinel
but i don't put the keys together any more, i just join keys i know i can time
crude notch
By 20k
daring marlin
yo what's your sign? I gotta know if we can comingle or not
undone verge
crude notch
cinder storm
daring marlin
first people that sign up are typically first ppl i invite
Yogi I also don't vet people in the sub 15s I do on my rat alts
cinder storm
/gquit
daring marlin
Because nobody fucking signs up
proper roost
i'm kinda afraid to gear up my VDH because 11-15 horror stories are kinda wild. however i also suspect people complaining about 11-15 keys are uh, running into personal skill issue
also if i just hit 70 at 10.1.5 then surely there will be more people playing again
crude notch
bro 11-15 on a mon(na)/tue(eu) is pinnacle rat city
daring marlin
can confirm
proper roost
yea def do not want to do it on monday
daring marlin
Did it on my dk a few weeks ago
undone verge
“Comfort pick”
daring marlin
Made me not do keys on him since
proper roost
but i mean, 11s you can time with the tank doing 80% of the dps so it should be ok
the real problem is when the character needs to spam 17s for 441 gear...
twin bramble
Just use your own key, keep bringing it down to 11 and call it “crest speed farm” then pull like a mad man. Got really good people in groups constantly.
uneven mason
Wtf 4 hour maintenance
daring marlin
16/17
primal crypt
is prot viable now
cinder storm
“Comfort pick”
Thats lingo for "healers are saying you are hard to heal but we are not willing to blame them so we blame you instead"
proper roost
the other thing that has been kind of weird about VDH to me is that they take like 3 GCDs of setup to establish threat in aoe, which is kind of spooky
daring marlin
is prot viable now
It was always viable in your hands big boy
crude notch
but i mean, 11s you can time with the tank doing 80% of the dps so it should be ...
Yeah we still +2'd the FH 13 with me doing 80k and the dps doing 60k, 40k, and 30k ezpz.
uneven mason
is prot viable now
No, absolute trash
jagged gust
i think alot of us are forgetting the terrible raid experiences we had in origin...
idk, I applied for a guild, got into one, carried them to server second, was a good time for me Fucking Vicarious had to show us up at every corner though
primal crypt
It was always viable in your hands big boy
❤️
daring marlin
modern brook
is prot viable now
Not for you
daring marlin
everybody bullyfango time
primal crypt
Not for you
modern brook
More like shamorino
primal crypt
shhhhhhh
daring marlin
proper roost
the VDH aoe threat setup KINDA feels like ppal to me
proper roost
in that optimally you don't want to AS early so you can pool resources
but maybe i am just bad at ppal
crude notch
they need to give VDH bloodletting
primal crypt
I've been dpsing on my warrior and I hate it
proper roost
also I guess a major difference is that ShoR does big aoe dam threat
daring marlin
Jordan can I actually play my prot pally now without people calling me a fotm reroller?
primal crypt
but I quit for too long and the tank slot taken in guild
modern brook
Wild dps war is so fun rn
daring marlin
have the leather bdsm hoes overtaken the pinkmen yet?
primal crypt
dps warr is good
daring marlin
Wild dps war is so fun rn
FUCKING TRUE THO
daring marlin
arms owns
modern brook
Both specs are really hitting their stride in like tuning and gameplay
modern brook
Unfortunately that fury dies without its teir
crystal mauve
I wish prot felt as good as arms
You mean you wish Arms felt as good as prot, no?
daring marlin
Fury next tier = 
proper roost
really? i think pwar still feels pretty good, my biggest and continual complaint is just demo shout GCD
cinder storm
All they had to do with afflicted was "If afflicted casts you get -x% haste, if you dispel afflicted you get +x% haste" boom
daring marlin
You mean you wish Arms felt as good as prot, no?
I said what I said
proper roost
i guess I also don't really like timing damage cds around demo shout
don't like that part at all
but it's all mostly because demo shout gcd
modern brook
I'm so tired of affix complaining ngl
crystal mauve
i guess I also don't really like timing damage cds around demo shout
Just don't, send on CD 👍
primal crypt
prot warrior feels good tho
proper roost
literally if it just wasn't on gcd all of my issues with prot instantly gone
primal crypt
wat
modern brook
Just fucking dispel the ghost
proper roost
Just don't, send on CD 👍
Yeah, if you do this, you are losing like 20% of your dps unironically
undone verge
Thats lingo for "healers are saying you are hard to heal but we are not willing ...
hard to heal? I just dont get healed lol
daring marlin
Not saying prot feels bad
crystal mauve
Yeah, if you do this, you are losing like 20% of your dps unironically
Not really tho, you better have one more cast overall rather than 1 less but better cast overall
daring marlin
I jist love how arms feels
cinder storm
hard to heal? I just dont get healed lol
daring marlin
YA DIG?
primal crypt
arms does feel good for sure
proper roost
you don't lose any casts if you sync it with demo shout
primal crypt
Im a digger for sure
proper roost
demo shout's cd literally lines up with all of your dps cds...
that's
why you dont take thunderlord
proper roost
💀
primal crypt
all the time
undone verge
we were 5 healing experiments and I was recieving around 5 million less healing than4 heal groups, as I was hiting like rank 1 healing parses
primal crypt
no holding
modern brook
demo shout's cd literally lines up with all of your dps cds...
So why would you have to hold it then
crystal mauve
why you dont take thunderlord
Thunderlord or not, you just send it. If it aligns, great, if it doesn't don't think about it
undone verge
just sync it with shield charge once and dont think for the entire fight
primal crypt
kanga think demo shout is end all be all
undone verge
thunderlord is like a useless talent
primal crypt
have to hold and sync all the things
proper roost
So why would you have to hold it then
huh? i never mentioned holding
primal crypt
full send
primal crypt
jagged gust
hold w, dont look back
primal crypt
never look back
sick sentinel
only look back when there is a mistake
primal crypt
only look back when there is a mistake
even then you just push forward
sick sentinel
so you can learn from mistake to not make that mistake again
crystal mauve
thunderlord is like a useless talent
It might be a bit less damage in AOE but it's more uptime on a 20% DR. If you need the DR it's good. You do loose some damage in AOE but gain some in ST. It's not a big enough deal to be thinking about it too much to
proper roost
truly, I am constantly reminded of the primary reason why I never invite prot warriors
every day
daring marlin
crystal mauve
truly, I am constantly reminded of the primary reason why I never invite prot wa...
Cause you are already a prot warrior in the key?
primal crypt
daring marlin
primal crypt
plays prot warrior, never invites prot warriors
undone verge
It might be a bit less damage in AOE but it's more uptime on a 20% DR. If you ne...
if u need more demo shout there are bigger problems
crystal mauve
if u need more demo shout there are bigger problems
Say that to the R1 prot warrior I guess lol, he is using it often
crude notch
<:dandy:809705852658253844>
one day i'll understand this emote
modern brook
Weird take
primal crypt
undone verge
Say that to the R1 prot warrior I guess lol, he is using it often
we're not talking about the r1 prot warrior cause anyone who needs their class discord to help with talents isnt the rank 1 prot warrior
primal crypt
daring marlin
My sides hurt
waxen frigate
Aww shit I tuned into prot cord at the right time today
primal crypt
lmfao
waxen frigate
waxen frigate
https://tenor.com/view/oh-popcorn-eating-gif-18107571
Why is this so scuffed the fuck
crude notch
AH SHIT
jagged gust
Aww shit I tuned into prot cord at the right time today
we're like half an hour into downtime and chat's already lost it's fucking marbles
waxen frigate
we're like half an hour into downtime and chat's already lost it's fucking marbl...
We were discussing genocide and milkshakes simultaneously in fury earlier
crude notch
stfu William Knifeman
waxen frigate
crystal mauve
we're not talking about the r1 prot warrior cause anyone who needs their class d...
I'm just answering the comment about thunderlord being useless, it has it's uses if you need it. Also I just said before it's not a big deal anyway
jagged gust
this is what happens when you delay people's vaults
primal crypt
thunderlord garbanzo beans
primal crypt
garbanzo
waxen frigate
Imagine being an Andy Andy
crude notch
Nome and Andy were tlaking
About a turtle build
that included TL
so heck you TL haters
jagged gust
stfu William Knifeman
stfu, I'll ride you down, all rugged like
primal crypt
who the hell is andy
waxen frigate
I talked to Naowh once 
crude notch
I'm definitely gonna need to turtle up in my +9
crude notch
who the hell is andy
Yo daddy if you don't stfu
daring marlin
undone verge
This is that stupid taszavesh trinket all over again "Well the top players are using it in their 29s"
crude notch
You have no power over me
crude notch
This is that stupid taszavesh trinket all over again "Well the top players are u...
not even remotely close
primal crypt
modern brook
<a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
Thanks
crude notch
And honestly you're obviously new if you think codex was the first time this discussion has been had
waxen frigate
This is that stupid taszavesh trinket all over again "Well the top players are u...
I still use codex
crystal mauve
This is that stupid taszavesh trinket all over again "Well the top players are u...
Not really tho, NONE of the prot warrior were using the trinket in their high keys
waxen frigate
On my frost DK
crude notch
vers amp v. td. etc etc etc
proper roost
waxen frigate
Heh
primal crypt
anals
waxen frigate
Anals
jagged gust
anals
undone verge
Not really tho, NONE of the prot warrior were using the trinket in their high ke...
they definitely were cause every five seconds someone would come in here and remind us of it
proper roost
there was that french prot warrior in week 1-2 of M+ that was doing wacky shit in 24s and people kept begging questions why they were playing wacky shit
That was a fun couple weeks
undone verge
its such a bait like if you need thunderlord for content you're either bleeding edge for keys or playing your class wrong
jagged gust
nut in the annals
primal crypt
anal nut
undone verge
just do dam
daring marlin
need more weird
primal crypt
no
crude notch
dumb bish
daring marlin
quick, someone insult nerf or something
primal crypt
bully them
jagged gust
I run TL and use whirlwind to aoe
proper roost
it's not worth debating, this is literally the one tank discord that's hellbent on wanting to play badly
modern brook
High key, tlords will not break your talent set up
undone verge
I run TL and use whirlwind to aoe
based
daring marlin
something something his team carries him
crude notch
it's not worth debating, this is literally the one tank discord that's hellbent ...
what the heck
proper roost
prot warrior attracts the boomers
waxen frigate
it's not worth debating, this is literally the one tank discord that's hellbent ...
It’s not
Trust me
modern brook
Nah he caught us
crude notch
like you're not really losing much going SL over SoF as long as you press your damn demo shout
crude notch
the worst one is HoW don't at me
proper roost
does blueprint still play
daring marlin
the worst one is HoW don't at me
TRUE
proper roost
That guy owned on ppal
crude notch
yeah he's playing evoker
primal crypt
nerf is best prot warr ever seen
daring marlin
nerf is a beast
waxen frigate
Nerf
primal crypt
never die
crystal mauve
I've checked the top 10 prot warrior, with a quick search I was able to find at lest one +24 key for all of them with TL in the talent setup. You do what you want with that information now 🙂
undone verge
its such a bait like if you need thunderlord for content you're either bleeding ...
^
primal crypt
after testing
crude notch
I've checked the top 10 prot warrior, with a quick search I was able to find at ...
can you not read?
primal crypt
crystal mauve
can you not read?
I guess I missed your message 🫤
daring marlin
can you not read?
No
primal crypt
no reading andy
jagged gust
I watched a stream with a dude running 24's on the weekend, died at least 3 times per dungeon standing in choreographed aoe
Therefore standing in aoe is mandatory to run high keys
crude notch
here i'll say what i said in another chat
lime urchin
🍿
proper roost
bated breath rn
crude notch
Reality is it's not the build that makes that level of key work, it's the player. For the most part, you can take one of numerous builds for BrewPWar and achieve R1 keys for the spec (especially when it accounts for less than 5% of all current title eligible tanks) as long as you and your group are good enough. That doesn't mean the build is ideal for everyone, nor does it mean it's the best at all key levels. It means one guy with one build found four other gamers and smashed some keys.
Somehow Blizzard has made Brew's (and some other tanks really) tree flexible enough that you can succeed with pretty much any build within reason. (Someone comes in here and says "What about a non-BoF insert ridiculously required button build?" I stg)
This season we're not reaching the key levels (yet at least) where damage done or tank survivability is what matters. So things are gonna be more flexible because the wall on highest keys currently is group damage and there's not really anything Brew can do for that.
So at the end of the day, does it make Equinox'sinsert pwar's name you're referring to build objectively bad? No. Does his success on it make it objectively good? Also, no. It just makes it good enough as long as YOU'RE good enough.
primal crypt
Reality is it's not the build that makes that level of key work, it's the player. For the most part, you can take one of numerous builds for BrewPWar and achieve R1 keys for the spec (especially when it accounts for less than 5% of all current title eligible tanks) as long as you and your group are good enough. That doesn't mean the build is ideal for everyone, nor does it mean it's the best at all key levels. It means one guy with one build found four other gamers and smashed some keys.
Somehow Blizzard has made Brew's (and some other tanks really) tree flexible enough that you can succeed with pretty much any build within reason. (Someone comes in here and says "What about a non-BoF insert ridiculously required button build?" I stg)
This season we're not reaching the key levels (yet at least) where damage done or tank survivability is what matters. So things are gonna be more flexible because the wall on highest keys currently is group damage and there's not really anything Brew can do for that.
So at the end of the day, does it make Equinox'sinsert pwar's name you're referring to build objectively bad? No. Does his success on it make it objectively good? Also, no. It just makes it good enough as long as YOU'RE good enough.
crude notch
your copy failed
proper roost
well i mean i think you start needing a decent amount of external tank healing from like 22+ but not on tyr mostly
especially since pwar spell reflects most of the tankbusters this season
crude notch
Where did I say you wouldn't need an external
proper roost
damage done is definitely not an issue in keys this season yet, which is kinda funny. people not having issue with timer when pushing
literally just living through shit or not
toxic pewter
So what build is best right now for prot warr
daring marlin
cram it apb
daring marlin
yeah but
toxic pewter
And even now you read my very words
toxic pewter
Too late
crude notch
always posting bait
toxic pewter
It is done.
daring marlin
but have you CONSIDERED
proper roost
I appreciate apb's chaos.
toxic pewter
What if I told you they’re not fake or bait
daring marlin
We have apb and yogi chaos posting daily
proper roost
it is very entertaining
crude notch
I appreciate apb's chaos.
yeah well I appreciate you!
daring marlin
keeps this chat alive
crude notch
<a:keksquad:766690598635044895>
I knew you'd appreciate that.
daring marlin
yogi is our resident koolaid man
proper roost
i wish I had the time to play more i really want to try brm and hpally before the season ends
crude notch
SERVERS UP WHEN?
proper roost
but no shot i have the time for it
waxen frigate
Yogi is the champion of the arena
undone verge
So what build is best right now for prot warr
crude notch
HELLO SERVERS?
waxen frigate
The ai confirmed it in his duel with Nomeratur yesterday
daring marlin
slams through the wall, says some goofy shit, fails to elaborate and disappears
proper roost
when yogi said he gained 95 io this week, i was hype af
i'm subbed to yogi's m+ adventures
waxen frigate
Literally an infinite % gain from zero
daring marlin
@sick sentinel we need a video today
jagged gust
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPBFVRVVFRUVQoAQFCBUOVVE...
Barbaric Training is going to be a necessity at some point, mark my words
toxic pewter
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPBFVRVVFRUVQoAQFCBUOVVE...
I like it
undone verge
made it myself, im somewhat of a theory crafter
daring marlin
fuckin' useless lmaooooooo
waxen frigate
now the real question is how do I weasel my way out of zskarn prog
Free boss now
Zzz
jagged gust
It's such a shame you have to take Booming Voice just to activate BSV
toxic pewter
Just /gquit
waxen frigate
Ok so slightly less free
toxic pewter
Just pug instead will be better than your guild
waxen frigate
But it’ll be easier than rashok surely
undone verge
we have like 90 pulls 1.2% on rashy
proper roost
our dps is so bad
undone verge
at least we're not bdk levels
waxen frigate
My old old guild
proper roost
the worst part is
people in my guild being like "we're over the average # of pulls for rashok!!"
crude notch
Are there boss nerfs this week?
proper roost
and honestly I don't think that's true once you exclude hof guilds
crude notch
Good
waxen frigate
and honestly I don't think that's true once you exclude hof guilds
I think rashok is realistically an 80-100 pull boss personally
40-60 for the really good guilds
undone verge
proper roost
I mean idd in theory but guilds at this level don't have great rosters
Like half our pulls happened with no druid in the raid
crude notch
Is this it? With the accidental over nerf on Sark, will they need to nerf anything else ?
waxen frigate
Is this it? With the accidental over nerf on Sark, will they need to nerf anythi...
Rashok
It’s the wall now
undone verge
I think rashok is realistically an 80-100 pull boss personally
rashok lava ways prob
iron island
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPBFVRVVFRUVQoAQFCBUOVVE...
why not use avatar anymore ?
crude notch
Yeah was thinking maybe rash
proper roost
well, there's somewhat of a soft nerf in 2 weeks with the myth track gear, right?
proper roost
also aren't there usually much heavier handed nerfs near the end of a season
undone verge
why not use avatar anymore ?
fake build dont use that
waxen frigate
Mid 300s world rank
proper roost
i'll see you all with CE with 2 days left in the season 🫡
waxen frigate
I’m starting my trial with a HOF guild tonight
undone verge
cant wait to binge another race to world last
waxen frigate
crude notch
I wonder if we get 10.2 on PTR soon
undone verge
probably whenever they announce 10.2 itll be ptr so maybe a few weeks after 10.1.5 id think
crude notch
They started 10.1 PTR before releasing 10.0.5.
iron island
fake build dont use that
oh, okay, but do u have a good build for sarkareth ? i didnt got my aotc, im receving a lot of dmg for some reason, my ilvl is 434
waxen frigate
I predict
proper roost
i need to find a good 2 night guild but it's really hard to get into a 2 night guild, let alone a good one
and my parses suck dick
waxen frigate
i need to find a good 2 night guild but it's really hard to get into a 2 night g...
Ya I want a 2 night guild
Yet here I am joining a 4 night
sick sentinel
video takes 40 minutes + 100 minutes
waxen frigate
🤡
proper roost
that's a nightmare
sick sentinel
100 is for HD render
crude notch
I want a 1 night 4 hour HoF guild who's with me
proper roost
the worst part about being 3 night is we already waste so much time
like in terms of actual in-combat time it is basically same or even less than a 6h 2 night guild but there is legit just 3h of buttheadery every week
jagged gust
I want a 1 night 4 hour HoF guild who's with me
boring
crude notch
Who wants to start an 8 hr Saturday night guild with me.
daring marlin
I want a 1 night 4 hour HoF guild who's with me
yes
jagged gust
If I'm not wiping 40 times a night for 5 days a week, whats the point in raiding?
undone verge
oh, okay, but do u have a good build for sarkareth ? i didnt got my aotc, im rec...
if you want theres a few talents you could swap, like instigate for impen wall, or unnerving focus for impen wall. Could also drop like sidearm or overwhelming rage or pain and gain to pick up intim shout to deal with adds
waxen frigate
If I'm not wiping 40 times a night for 5 days a week, whats the point in raiding...
If I’m shitting daily what’s the point in wiping?
iron island
if you want theres a few talents you could swap, like instigate for impen wall, ...
ty man
proper roost
are servers up yet
undone verge
no
waxen frigate
Is “Born to shit, forced to wipe” too long to be a guild name
proper roost
I need people to post 447 tier vaults and be like "this is the worst vault I have EVER had please just KILL and MURDER my family for this bad rng"
waxen frigate
I have like
undone verge
My vault was terrible last week and I got a 447 forgestorm and beacon
waxen frigate
3 total vault options across all my characters this week
undone verge
I had to take tokens
jagged gust
Probably, I had to turn "Fuck you and the server you rode in on" into an acronym and I hate it
remote venture
Push the trash out of sanguibe week
iron island
what is the afflictions this week ?
undone verge
still hella annoying
daring marlin
necrotic is ez
waxen frigate
🧑🚒
toxic pewter
Ya sanguine is worst affix
crude notch
Of note dk can ams Afflicted so I don't care if people don't dispel
undone verge
necrotic just stupid affix. I dont think ive done a key of necrotic since the nerf
crude notch
what
proper roost
yeah fort sanguine sucks
crude notch
do you know what necrotic did ip?
waxen frigate
IPissandOfferCum
proper roost
should i fill out 16s on my warrior to attempt to get a catalyzed 447 helm for 10.1.5
hmmge
waxen frigate
More like it haha
crude notch
Also, kekw to necrotic as UFR bear
daring marlin
Only time necrotic was annoying was mobs that were cc immune
and in those situations have a paladin
like c'mon now
crude notch
necrotic was only annoying when it was paired with bursting because you couldn't get healed lmao
proper roost
just bubble/spellward the necrotic off??? lmaooo so stupid!
uneven mason
Reduced healing, when you don't rely on self sustain to begin with?
daring marlin
nah just have them bop it off you
crude notch
spellward necrotic, this ain't legion
daring marlin
yep
crude notch
ye
daring marlin
in bfa
proper roost
💀
crude notch
because of bdk
proper roost
LMAO that sucks
daring marlin
"wait we were the best tank for necrotic noooooooooo"
crude notch
That's okay Ursoc's Fury ignored necrotic reduction so bear was just lmao
You could get 99 stacks of necrotic in Halls of Atonement and just never die
daring marlin
really tho post nerf in SL necrotic was an absolute joke
even in ardenweald
stack every other melee? like bruh lmao
waxen frigate
That's okay Ursoc's Fury ignored necrotic reduction so bear was just lmao
Lots of stuff did tbh
Pally shield throw absorb, brew koth
Pwarr just blocks 4hed
daring marlin
hell yes warrior bros we can shattering throw incorp this week
crude notch
Yes bulwark fell under the same category
daring marlin
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
proper roost
The "can someone link a spec with shattering throw for this week" questions
They will come
crude notch
bdk just CUs
proper roost
You cannot stop it
daring marlin
I just don't understand why they didn't tack it onto wrecking throw
do they even play their own game?
crude notch
yeeeeeeee
waxen frigate
toxic pewter
Pwarr is best for these new affixes because it’s great I dont gotta do shit
Let the other losers take care of it
daring marlin
Even if it was wrecking throw it'd still be worse than pretty much every other class cuz it's way longer cd lmao
daring marlin
Pwarr is best for these new affixes because it’s great I dont gotta do shit
I agree but still
I agree more from a dps standpoint
tank wise I'd like to be able to assist
toxic pewter
at first I thought that then I realized fuk it lmao
crude notch
The gap is pretty noticeable now actually
olive bay
So .. What's a safe talent to drop this week so I can help with Incorp?
crude notch
You don't
proper roost
Is it incorp or afflicted that's 45s cd
i literally only did one key last week on my shaman so idr
crude notch
They have similar CDs
proper roost
one is 30 and the other is 45 but I can't remember which off the top of my head
olive bay
okay, so say I want to help - what do I drop
toxic pewter
Just fear the incorp when it’s almost done casting
jagged gust
So .. What's a safe talent to drop this week so I can help with Incorp?
our beloved, beautiful bounding stride 🥲
olive bay
one is 30 and the other is 45 but I can't remember which off the top of my head
incorp is 45s and disappear when you drop combat
toxic pewter
Toss a storm bolt
proper roost
oh then wrecking throw would be insane for incorp guilford
ur wRONG
it would literally be the best ability for it
daring marlin
it would literally be the best ability for it
? ? ?
CC can't be broken
So it basically would do the same thing
crude notch
Yeah idk about being the best
proper roost
ok i double checked afflicted is 30s cd