wait until you find out what faction most high key players are now. (:
#protection
crude notch
jagged gust
I'll take bad players over having to play Shadowlands any day of the week
strong forum
always are 
waxen frigate
always are <:wicked:937093876857045012>
steel mist
wait until you find out what faction most high key players are now. (:
alliance
waxen frigate
ALLIANCE GANG
crude notch
If you think faction matters now when pugging you probably also consume crayons on the daily.
toxic pewter
I read in forums that Dragonflight is the least popular wow expansion to date. Classic has more players even
steel mist
even the allies pool were smaller but they were actually competent enough to do keys
waxen frigate
If you think faction matters now when pugging you probably also consume crayons ...
It def doesn’t matter now
But I’m talking right when xfac came out
strong forum
nobody can compete with taiwan tho, theyre on average 100-200 points higher than eu and 300-400 points higher than NA
waxen frigate
There was a clear difference
strong forum
their quality of high key pushers is quite staggering
sick sentinel
i shoulda stayed alliance
waxen frigate
nobody can compete with taiwan tho, theyre on average 100-200 points higher than...
Chinese truly are built different
sick sentinel
i could have had debuff removal or stun removal
strong forum
Chinese truly are built different
until they enter a tournament
steel mist
their quality of high key pushers is quite staggering
my guess that the ppl who were in china servers transferred there?
strong forum
waxen frigate
Tru
strong forum
extremely likely
waxen frigate
Chokers
strong forum
6/10 people in 10 top rated tanks are TW last time i checked
sick sentinel
i still think human is still one of the best if not the best race in wow,
waxen frigate
my guess that the ppl who were in china servers transferred there?
Not all but yes some
sick sentinel
remove stun is rediculous handy
waxen frigate
Lots came to NA too
crude notch
How many world titles in other video games does the east have to get before people realize they might be good at video games?
steel mist
even in eu
waxen frigate
How many world titles in other video games does the east have to get before peop...
I think most ppl know
steel mist
outland has a big chinese guild for chinese expats in europe
waxen frigate
The thing is because of the East/west separation it’s hard to like fully understand because there’s often different metas there entirely
jagged gust
How many world titles in other video games does the east have to get before peop...
oh yeah, when people think of china, they never think of video games
waxen frigate
And different ways of thinking
jagged gust
no sir
strong forum
everybody knows that asian discipline/culture is vastly superior when it comes to video games
except wow
for some reason
waxen frigate
Asia fell off hard in dota
crude notch
Because wow is the game you play if you're not good at the ones that make money
waxen frigate
Because wow is the game you play if you're not good at the ones that make money
On god
steel mist
most of them play LOL, dota and genshin impact
jagged gust
But it makes up for the lack of skill with a strong UI and transmog expression
strong forum
ill never understand the appeal of gacha
waxen frigate
most of them play LOL, dota and genshin impact
Chinese dota has been shit for years tho
crude notch
They're usually up there for live keys too, tbf.
strong forum
for live keys yes
jagged gust
who need skill when you've got good fashion taste?
crude notch
just tourneys it's like
strong forum
but somehow in tournaments
waxen frigate
Ya they just choke in tourneys
strong forum
they fully kick the bucket
steel mist
do you know why they choke
crude notch
I want to see a global release raid and then china win it.
waxen frigate
Granted in every tourney for the last what 3 years it’s just Echo >>> everyone else
strong forum
fucking last time china MDI was streamed, pwar with dogshit covenant + legendary choice in 25tyr gambit
toxic pewter
Wait didn’t wow stop in China
crude notch
"yes"
toxic pewter
Or we talking Taiwan
waxen frigate
Wait didn’t wow stop in China
Officially yes
steel mist
the pressure from their sponsors, parents,managers and government to win.
strong forum
Granted in every tourney for the last what 3 years it’s just Echo >>> everyone e...
7*
waxen frigate
Everyone in China under the age of 30 uses a vpn
toxic pewter
Oh they’re playing on Taiwanese servers or what
waxen frigate
And I mean everyone
crude notch
yes apb
waxen frigate
Oh they’re playing on Taiwanese servers or what
Mostly but also NA and apparently some EU
toxic pewter
Interesting
waxen frigate
I ran with a few Chinese players in wotlk and s1 df
jagged gust
I want to see a global release raid and then china win it.
a global release would be a great way to find the exploits as quickly as possible
waxen frigate
Who were refugees from the server shutdowns
jagged gust
let everyone have the opportunity to cheese from the start
waxen frigate
No achieves/mogs, low io, but cranking and doing mechanics perfectly
Asked if they were from CN and they said ya
Feel so bad for them losing all their shit
steel mist
i noticed some chinese people who like to play on eur servers since they feel european
toxic pewter
Any good Chinese prot warr
waxen frigate
In NA illidan is known as the main Chinese server
toxic pewter
Their ping must suk ass
waxen frigate
Like if u wanna use trade chat on illidan it’s basically required to install “block Chinese” addon
waxen frigate
Their ping must suk ass
Not much worse than OCE
As to why they don’t play on OCE… couldn’t tell you. Lots do
But mostly other countries not China
Vietnamese, Thai, etc players I know mostly play on OCE
toxic pewter
Aren’t there Korean servers if I recall correctly could maybe play there too
nocturne spindle
naw
waxen frigate
True but I think Korean servers are more insular
steel mist
nope
nocturne spindle
korean games basically require you to register with the government
to get onto servers
toxic pewter
I see
waxen frigate
Ah that’s why they’re insular
steel mist
korean servers require a physical address and an ID card to create an account for proof
waxen frigate
Wack
steel mist
thats why i could able to join games like ragnarok online and gunz when they were popular at that time
could not
crude notch
yo
waxen frigate
yo
toxic pewter
I played ragnarok online briefly lol. That game was fun
toxic pewter
What’s douyu is that like twitch
steel mist
now they are focused on gacha games like destiny child, nikke:goodess of victory with all the Boobas
crude notch
What’s douyu is that like twitch
yea
toxic pewter
Now that I think about that explains me seeing a lot of mandarin in dungeons here and there lmao
steel mist
well if they were good, cant they make a team without sponsorship?
toxic pewter
Didn’t make the connection they literally may be Chinese players on na servers
crude notch
The real play is for the CN players to set up a guild on NA
Skyline is TW rn though iirc
lofty mica
Does anyone here have a decent WA that yells when youre reflecting?
waxen frigate
Now that I think about that explains me seeing a lot of mandarin in dungeons her...
I mean that happened a lot before the removal of Chinese servers
toxic pewter
Yah true
sick sentinel
now they are focused on gacha games like destiny child, nikke:goodess of victory...
garuda fight on ff16
i saw bits and pieces of that on twitch, its really something else lol
urban portal
Didn’t make the connection they literally may be Chinese players on na servers
most chinese players on NA is physically in NA (or aus)
most chinese player in china plays on TW
toxic pewter
I guess Taiwanese language and Manndarin are really similar
urban portal
they speak a language thats 98% similar
its like northern US english vs southern
but even closer
toxic pewter
Ya I guess no one can tell where anyone is from
urban portal
if a brazilian player on illidan never types
how do you know hes brazilian
its like that
even if he types, as long as hes careful he'll never be found out
toxic pewter
Makes sense
sick sentinel
apparently you have never been in LFR EP
with 1 raganaros tank, that speaks english
and another from barthilas or somethin
that NOBODOY FUCKIN AT ALL
can speak his language
i personally tried messaging him in at least 3 different google translations of when to taunt
and we spent some absurd amount of time on that encounter like, 20 minutes minimum probably 40, before we downed the boss
this was for 3rd last boss in EP, the one where they are across room and you do a tank swap, council pretty sure
opaque oriole
Is there a website simulating survivability/self-sustain or healing of tanks like QE Live for my healer?
sick sentinel
nope, logs, make a log, even if its private view it, see how m any blocked attacks you have, under 90% blocked hits = bring it up, all the way to 100%
then its just, use cd's right and don't stand in fire
opaque oriole
Any way to compare fueled by violence vs brutal vitality?
sick sentinel
in a recent key, i only had 62% blocked hits overall, so i was opening my back side or not blocking nearly 40% of attacks, meaning i take more dmg and have to be healed more
opaque oriole
Backpedal more? 😂
waxen frigate
in a recent key, i only had 62% blocked hits overall, so i was opening my back ...
Hmm, healer, I’m trying to tank but I’m dummy thicc and the clap of my asscheeks keeps attracting autos
karmic plinth
Any way to compare fueled by violence vs brutal vitality?
the difference is very negligble
opaque oriole
the difference is very negligble
Also what it feels like 😊
sick sentinel
and for reference, this channel would refer to my 62-63% blocked hits as "low" i dunno about very low, but its not good right
opaque oriole
How much do you aim for in keys?
karmic plinth
i found FbV would be somewhere like 8% of my HPS in m+ and when running BrV i barely noticed that i didnt have it
it's worth saying that FbV can be wasted while BrV is less likely to by design
sick sentinel
opaque oriole
I’m a healer main, so lots to learn
urban portal
Is there a website simulating survivability/self-sustain or healing of tanks lik...
nah tanks are 99% feelycrafting
but its also just banking on you playing well
sick sentinel
here, 80% of dmg i took in the key was melees, i could have further reduced that dmg i would have taken by another 37%
karmic plinth
How much do you aim for in keys?
85% is the benchmark your want to aim for on blocked hits but in theory you should be at 100%
sick sentinel
that means healer is healing me less and can heal other or do dps themselves
crit rating for keys, yes
opaque oriole
I just sim for the most dps on raidbots anyway 😂
karmic plinth
crit is good because it's our best damage stat AND parry is really strong albeit unreliable
sick sentinel
thats about right TBH, because if you are doing your job well and blocking over 85% of hits, then there is no other job for you to do except contribute to killing the boss
opaque oriole
Why is crit better than haste?
urban portal
because it does more damage
opaque oriole
170haste/1% and 180crit/1%
sick sentinel
its not better than haste you would like haste first of all, and then you can collect crit, or versa, from there, not alot of mastery ppl
opaque oriole
Is mastery a defensive stat?
urban portal
so you blocked much less than 60%
karmic plinth
all of them are
opaque oriole
Is mastery the most defensive?
urban portal
no
haste
haste is your best stat until you get one shot
by melees
which can almost never happen
opaque oriole
haste is your best stat until you get one shot
Then what?
I’m just trying to learn
Mastery on healers don’t contribute to damage
opaque oriole
And it’s usually haste>crit>vers
urban portal
if you are getting blown up by a melee with shield block up
then you need more strength
not anything else
so just do haste>crit=vers
karmic plinth
mastery is our weakest defensive stat because it doubles down on what we are already strongest on. it does get strong when you have OBSCENE amounts (not something we will have available right now)
urban portal
mastery is actually quite crazy in general
opaque oriole
mastery is our weakest defensive stat because it doubles down on what we are alr...
👍
urban portal
because of the way the math works
sick sentinel
wait, where are you looking at % hit
urban portal
wait, where are you looking at % hit
hover over hits instead of daamge
karmic plinth
in bfa we had a trait that made avatar grant a shit load of mastery
urban portal
its just that its unreliable, and if you want unreliability you may as well get damage for that
daring marlin
yes yes bastion of might
opaque oriole
How do you use last stand and shield wall? On every pull on cd or timed with enemies abilities?
urban portal
so you didnt do too bad yogi
urban portal
How do you use last stand and shield wall? On every pull on cd or timed with ene...
last stand on CD with 2 piece
shield wall when you need it but be liberal
its only a 1 minute
sick sentinel
im still scared to all hell of that halls of infusion
frog boss got me all fucked up
waxen frigate
He learned from shawty
opaque oriole
Got 4500ish so far
sullen gust
How do you use last stand and shield wall? On every pull on cd or timed with ene...
I macrod Avatar and last stand together so if I forget it'll come back when I Avatar. And the button I press is just my "More damage" button in general
sick sentinel
pretty good idea to send SW on a large pull right after you pull it
opaque oriole
What about shield block, do you use on cd too?
sullen gust
What about shield block, do you use on cd too?
Shield Block you just want to use it when you're about to run out
sick sentinel
you use shield block when you are being meleed or can do shield slams (so 99% of the time anyway)
sullen gust
If you already have shield block up, pressing it again doesn't do anything except restarting the duration
opaque oriole
If you already have shield block up, pressing it again doesn't do anything excep...
Doesn’t it prolong?
karmic plinth
up to 3x duration
opaque oriole
up to 3x duration
👍
sick sentinel
if you cast 2 shield blocks they are worth 6 seconds each, yes, you get 12 seconds worth of SB
goes to at least 18 seconds, i think 24 is the max i duno
opaque oriole
Talented +2s
karmic plinth
our uptime is very good right now but we still need to be mindful of not wasiting charges
toxic pewter
39 seconds is max shield block you can get in theory
sick sentinel
the big reason you want shield block up in battle, is it makes your shield slam hit for even more damage
jagged gust
^ I was wondering, I've only ever managed to get it stacked to 32 seconds so far
karmic plinth
bolster ignores the 3x duration rule
toxic pewter
Yah in practice 39 pretty much really difficult/impossible
sick sentinel
besides to survive
karmic plinth
but using a charge above the 24s mark will waste it
opaque oriole
I just watched dratnos’ video on gearing alts. How do you get tier set as fast as possible?
I got one upgradable, normal cleared and am 415 ilvl
toxic pewter
Use catalyst I guess
jagged gust
but using a charge above the 24s mark will waste it
Honestly it doesn't matter too much, just send that shit on CD and it'll never fall off
sick sentinel
we get another tomorrow dont we
im pretty sure its been at least 1 full reset since we got the first catalyst
sick sentinel
every two weeks im told
sick sentinel
o rly theyt are just giving them out rapid fire
jagged gust
yee boi
daring marlin
o rly theyt are just giving them out rapid fire
yogi it was like that last season
lol
@crude notch I gotta get on the alt leveling train
that way I can get full sets!!!
sick sentinel
i have a very loose perception of time and how events truly unfold if left to my own mechanics
daring marlin
asap
jagged gust
i have a very loose perception of time and how events truly unfold if left to my...
I feel this comment in my bones xD
daring marlin
@warm plinth What is next week's affix combo again mr oracle man?
jagged gust
surely entangling
vocal nimbus
something, another thing and third thing
jagged gust
entangling spiteful, now that sounds like fun to me
sick sentinel
well, its also fort tomorrow/reset for eu
daring marlin
entangling/spiteful would be giga push
sick sentinel
so get those fort gross keys for IO out of the way on tyranical, imma probably try halls or somethin again
remote venture
Is this gusses or this is confrim?
crude notch
not confirmed
crude notch
He broke the servers
vestal cove
How valuable is the extra 5% DR that’s coming? Currently a 2300 bear but my true love is prot warr - does it bring them closer together?
toxic pewter
?
lime urchin
Uh oh
toxic pewter
You type as if we are some disabled janky loser tank
lime urchin
🍿
lime urchin
You type as if we are some disabled janky loser tank
Oi! Im in this sentence and I don’t like it!
toxic pewter
Wat u mean
vestal cove
Not at all, I know all are very close, but is this enough to bring them up closer to Bear/Pala/VDH
toxic pewter
We are just as good as any tank and excel in some areas they don’t
plush tendon
there is more to why Pal/Bear/VDH are just a better choice right now
Pal and Bear cause of their util and offheals
toxic pewter
A true prot warr lover isn’t fotm anyway
plush tendon
VDH just does lots of damage plus chaos brand; range/magic damage is very strong right now
toxic pewter
Yeah and dies when they jump into a new pack immediately LOL
plush tendon
VDH is finicky as a tank to play
sick sentinel
How valuable is the extra 5% DR that’s coming? Currently a 2300 bear but my true...
TL;DR : it doesn't really matter, cuz nothing hits hard enough until like 24+ keys to warrant pressing it
plush tendon
but a really good VDH is a boss
sick sentinel
so, it never gets pressed
plush tendon
its a lot like BDK
sick sentinel
and thus the change is meaningless
plush tendon
the 5% extra on dstance is still nice as a toggable defensive though
there are instances in 20s where you may use it
some Neltharus pulls and those big stone doods in Nathans liar
plush tendon
not to mention Experiments Mythic; I would use D Stance if the dot gets high
plush tendon
wheres a good example of where i might want to turn it on
those fortifide stone doods in Nathan's; that dot they leave slaps
and fire slash should your spell block run out or something
wraith hemlock
Prot war is trash F tier tank, saw it in a tier list!!!
(/Sarcasm)
plush tendon
Prot war is trash F tier tank, saw it in a tier list!!!
(/Sarcasm)
F tier in play rate
I dont understand why its not more popular tbh; its more fun then bear at least XD
lime urchin
🍿
wraith hemlock
Community perception?
plush tendon
Paladin I get; throwing shields like Captian America is awesome
wraith hemlock
Also furries love bears, maybe that's why bear is more played
plush tendon
toxic pewter
Go stand in your circle lmao
plush tendon
idk man
toxic pewter
Any prot pal I see I tell them go stand in their circle as I turn around and walk away slowly
And exit the situation
plush tendon
consecrate is both annoying and super strong at the same time
toxic pewter
Only thing that can ruin a nice day
plush tendon
at least it feels more free to place and move then a DK's Death and Decay
now fuck Death and Decay
jagged gust
I remember when paladins took like 2 months to level up and they were the only thing in existence that could hold aggro on more than 2 mobs at once
tropic gorge
laughs in thunder clap
Sorry I can't hear dk and paladin tears over the sound of thunder clapping enemy cheeks
See what I did there
toxic pewter
Nothin worse than a circle stander in my book
dusky canopy
My cheeks are clapping Thunder right now
plush tendon
it really does feel bad
dusky canopy
plush tendon
which, thank god, is being deleted
dusky canopy
Hard agree augusto
tropic gorge
I need to cast whirlwind during my raid tonight to fuck up log trolls
Someone is telling my guild officers I'm tanking in a dps spec. So I'm gonna do my part
toxic pewter
What’s going on
dusky canopy
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/1122932440281...
Lololol I missed the convo just popping in now
toxic pewter
Someone is telling my guild officers I'm tanking in a dps spec. So I'm gonna do ...
What you mean? Battle stance?
jagged gust
It's the best thing ive read all day 
dusky canopy
Someone is telling my guild officers I'm tanking in a dps spec. So I'm gonna do ...
Literally lack of intelligence, you cannot tank in a “dps spec”
tropic gorge
No, someone told a guild officer I happen to be e-friends with that the raid build in the pins is a dps tank spec
dusky canopy
I’m going to tell you the best advice you will ever get
strong forum
you dont play anything else in raid
dusky canopy
If you are told to do less damage
strong forum
cuz dmg intake is lmao
toxic pewter
No, someone told a guild officer I happen to be e-friends with that the raid bui...
Jfc these raid leaders and backseat gamers need to fuck right off
dusky canopy
Stay winning
jagged gust
One of my guild officers once shipped a computer halfway across America so our healer could make the raid while her comp was in the shop
tropic gorge
Yeah it's a dumb statement. There's nothing in my logs to show as such. My ehrps is always low. I'm doing just fine from what I can tell
toxic pewter
White knight detected
jagged gust
what im trying to say is officers are simps and not to be taken seriously
tropic gorge
Could I improve? Yes. Am I doing bad? Nah
toxic pewter
I hope to god you defend yourself during these accusations. Never let anyone try to make you artificially lower your gameplay ever. I would even consider leaving the guild if it comes to it
tropic gorge
I do. And I took the weekend to think of a proper response
dusky canopy
Inb4 “why isn’t he using double wall talent”
toxic pewter
Ok good
dusky canopy
Lmfao
tropic gorge
So I'll crush that shit this evening and be done with it
jagged gust
post SS's
dusky canopy
Just do 80k as Prot
jagged gust
we thrive on drama
dusky canopy
Humble the nerds
tropic gorge
Oh man. I do huge trash pulls
And talk to the dps during it
"guys come on I'm pumping hard"
dusky canopy
Do 300k on trash as Prot
tropic gorge
It's all in good fun
nocturne spindle
pulling like 400k on the first pull in FH is so funny to watch people be dumbstruck
waxen frigate
Someone is telling my guild officers I'm tanking in a dps spec. So I'm gonna do ...
I got rejected from a guild for parsing too high as tank
tropic gorge
Lmao
I regularly dps parse higher than dps players. But my guild is a small, heroic casual guild. So it's not like I'm setting records doing that
strong forum
damn they desperate
waxen frigate
sick sentinel
strong forum
zskarn is just prison
sick sentinel
gpt feels sorry for you
strong forum
lore accurate name
sick sentinel
holy crap, thats actually not a bad response it came up with
strong forum
chat gpt is good yes
sick sentinel
hello again :)
waxen frigate
hello again :)
sick sentinel
emails and policies no doubt
waxen frigate
Who r u
sick sentinel
<:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
wowww from the dk disc
waxen frigate
Oh
toxic pewter
even lawyers are using it to literally conduct law review and stuff
(granted apparently it has made up law cases that never happened or something LOL)
sick sentinel
laws is dont be a big stupid and you dont get the problems
sick sentinel
somber sky
yo this isn't the fanfic I signed up for!
I wanted some steamy colloseum action ;)
:madge
jagged gust
Is there a decent alternative to the giant basilisk pack in NL?
wraith hemlock
Still a better love story than twilight
jagged gust
or am i stuck kiting half a dozen bitey bleedy bois
sick sentinel
wont say it will work in 20s but i always just clear whatever % of the final boss room i need
scorpions and cave in dudes hurt group alot
vocal verge
If people don’t die to the first scorpion they can live another
somber sky
That can be arranged
sick sentinel
there is a red area i take them too
the whole entire floor section is red and yellow and bright, so its easy contrast for them to hopefullyt see an move out
jagged gust
wont say it will work in 20s but i always just clear whatever % of the final bos...
yeah I was afraid that was the answer
I think I trust myself kiting bleeds more than a pug to dodge literally anything tho
sick sentinel
this isnt the exact place, but its about it
on the path its all brown, and the circles are browm so nobody sees them in time and dies
hazy bronze
Yogi do you prefer elastic waistbands?
sick sentinel
never cared for them
hands is, they work so far, cant see them not working any time soon, leave it the way it is, cuz i see something about they provide support to wrists?
hazy bronze
Waist not wrist
sick sentinel
oh, i just use a normal belt
lusty grotto
Is there a decent alternative to the giant basilisk pack in NL?
be dwarf 
either way NL basilisks arent even that bad
they aren't uldaman's LEL
daring marlin
be dwarf <:okayge:917646812519739433>
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME
lusty grotto
idk i never have issues with the basilisks in NL
i even pull the water ones before wormyboy
all of them
and i definitely pull all 3 at the start
daring marlin
for sure
daring marlin
hah warrior go 
lusty grotto
i even forget im dwarf sometimes ngl
but i quickly get reminded of it after im in the grave
jagged gust
Dwarf would be great, if they weren't the same height as an orcs ass
cerulean tusk
Night Elf is the way
jagged gust
Belf and zandalar troll are also acceptable
both for their transmogability and sick dance moves
jagged gust
there was a time when nelf was the #1 dps choice for an alliance hunter
daring marlin
Belf and zandalar troll are also acceptable
ew feet
jagged gust
ew feet
oof I actually forgot about the dinosaur toes, alright it's settled in my mind, belf is the master race
They look so graceful executing in arms
warm plinth
<@255696891000389633> What is next week's affix combo again mr oracle man?
Incorp/sanguine is the most likely. Only other option is volc/spiteful
daring marlin
Incorp/sanguine is the most likely. Only other option is volc/spiteful
Volc/Spiteful would be yuge
fingers crossed
warm plinth
Well it's going to happen. It's just a matter of tomorrow or in 2 weeks :p
But since we just had volcanic last week, incorporeal/sanguine is more likely
dark lark
Why does the piercing shard from the hulks in Nelth Lair slap so hard even with spell block / shield wall
mellow bridge
cuz you cant spellblock the dot
only the initial hit
the hulks are some of the hardest mobs for us
dark lark
I did a 22 NL and I felt like I did everything I could there and still perished
Ended up making a route that skips the first one and the pelters
I felt like I could use spell block the crystal furies in azure vault and the dot was lower too, was I wrong?
warm plinth
Yes you were wrong. The dot in Azure Vault was stackable so it was smaller.
dark lark
Also, make the NL hulks stunnable 😡
sick sentinel
nnonoooooooooo
NooooooOOOOOOOO
this looks horrible , i hope we don't have to do it on keys lol
sick sentinel
might not be so bad, i've played games with worse mechanics
toxic pewter
I actually did it on ptr and I can confirm it sucked ass
Like if two or three people make it to end a portal opens up for the rest of the party though
warm plinth
This looks really easy though?
daring marlin
Agreed. That looks sick.
toxic pewter
I suggest trying it on ptr
I did not find it fun
If it makes it to m+ gonna cause a lot of issues lmao
daring marlin
why's that? Have the one dude with a brain do it and the rest take portal
toxic pewter
Oh is it just 1 guys that has to do it
Ok that’s not as bad but then makes you wonder why even have it lmao
Like 80% of the group just standing around waiting for some schmuck to dodge a bunch of nonsense
daring marlin
It predicting your movement is the coolest part
proper roost
or like cos rp (actually still think this is fun tbqh)
toxic pewter
How is standing around while a single guy does it fun
proper roost
Why would u stand around
daring marlin
You can ALSO try to do it
proper roost
since u tp the best chance is everyone goes
daring marlin
Like a game in the game to see who's the biggest brain
toxic pewter
Just bad
daring marlin
I don't see the issue
silk kiln
That’s like saying wait for some1 to catch the pig in FH
daring marlin
apb smol brain confirmed
daring marlin
That’s like saying wait for some1 to catch the pig in FH
It's not even remotely the same thing
toxic pewter
Nah I mean if you’re gonna implement a gauntlet either do it or don’t lmao got some half assed 20% have to complete it
torn gulch
toxic pewter
Just gonna end up one guy that claims to know how to do it while other 4 stand around
daring marlin
Sounds like you're just complaining for the sake of it
silk kiln
How? Evey1 attempts to do the mechanic
daring marlin
gauntlet sucks, I did it on ptr
toxic pewter
It’s just bad implementation and lazy
silk kiln
Sure it’s not a direct mirror but it’s similar
daring marlin
well there's a tp when someone completes it
toxic pewter
Time will prove me right in the end. Mark this post
daring marlin
well that's dumb too
proper roost
You complained about everyone having to do it just a second ago
toxic pewter
My point is either do it or not
proper roost
Now that there is protection from ur worst player youre complaining again
that theres a skip
Lmao
toxic pewter
It’s just a microcosm
proper roost
How about you critically debate yourself
Or are you too busy trucking the goalpost wildly left and right
daring marlin
yes kanga get him
toxic pewter
Either implement it or don’t
daring marlin
toxic pewter
That’s all I’m saying
daring marlin
curry good
toxic pewter
Are you ok
proper roost
I hongry
waxen frigate
How about you critically debate yourself
Reminding myself to heal an 18 or higher hoi tomorrow
toxic pewter
Posting random nonsense all of a sudden
daring marlin
apb I think everybody is ok here but you
toxic pewter
What you mean
waxen frigate
apb I think everybody is ok here but you
I’m pretty far from ok
proper roost
Having a great time rn
waxen frigate
lime urchin
What is all this noise? We discuss thunderclaps and stacking vers here.
toxic pewter
I’m talking about a gauntlet implementation in the next patch and this guy posting food pics
lime urchin
No go to guardian druid discord or smt
waxen frigate
No go to guardian druid discord or smt
I don’t play bear
I’m autistic but I’m not that autistic
waxen frigate
Are any of you guys German I got German food recently
daring marlin
for real
proper roost
damn pico de gallo sounds good af rn
proper roost
fug
toxic pewter
What is summer sausage
proper roost
Anyway cant wait for that dungeon its gonna be a fun way to break up what has become a somewhat monotonous patch
toxic pewter
Sounds good
latent jungle
today is a happy day, fianlly got my 441 forgestorm after so many runs... i could cry
toxic pewter
Nah 10.1.5 is dead in the water. Zaralek cavern actually going down as one of the worst zones they’ve ever made. Dragonflight definitely not doing well in my book
waxen frigate
it’s just vaguely German-American tube meat
waxen frigate
Nah 10.1.5 is dead in the water. Zaralek cavern actually going down as one of th...
Zaralek turbo shit
Dragonflight overall still great
waxen frigate
I’m missing her bro
waxen frigate
daring marlin
unreliable narrator tbh
toxic pewter
It’s true
waxen frigate
Bro pulled up the receipts from April
toxic pewter
I will admit I enjoyed df at first
daring marlin
Miss me with that shit
toxic pewter
I do I realized
daring marlin
You're a certified weirdo
daring marlin
play alts
daring marlin
Sounds like a you problem
toxic pewter
Any time I’m on an alt I think I could be getting cool stuff on my main
waxen frigate
Alts have been good to me this tier
waxen frigate
What about the first 2
tropic gorge
Sometimes the game just gets boring
waxen frigate
Yes
toxic pewter
Never actually tried it maybe it will help me
tropic gorge
May I suggest xcom 2 with long war. You won't quit out of bordem, but anger and frustration lmao
toxic pewter
How do I start rping
tropic gorge
Step 1: moonwhatever realm
toxic pewter
Yah
tropic gorge
Step 2: goldshire in
waxen frigate
Ok don’t do that
tropic gorge
Step 3: get. Lude.
toxic pewter
Do they require addons and stuff though
waxen frigate
I mean
waxen frigate
Do they require addons and stuff though
Yes
toxic pewter
Ok
tropic gorge
Real rp uses addons and such
waxen frigate
Best characters imo have very little backstory
tropic gorge
And true rp realms have rules
waxen frigate
And you build organically
toxic pewter
I see
waxen frigate
Just go walk around stormwind
toxic pewter
Is it newb friendly
tropic gorge
Rp players are some of the nicest I've ever met
toxic pewter
Right
tropic gorge
But I don't rp
toxic pewter
Gotta build trust
waxen frigate
Rp players are some of the nicest I've ever met
I’ve had some INSANE drama from RP communities
But same shit from pve
tropic gorge
So I've never been around or in a clique. I've pugged m+ with moon players before that had their rp addons enabled
toxic pewter
I need to watch a beginner guide or something
tropic gorge
I'm just glad I've yet to be in a group where anyone mocks rp.
I find great irony in mocking people in an mmo chat
waxen frigate
I need to watch a beginner guide or something
Unironically if u wanna learn to RP my dms are open
I haven’t RPed in a while but I loved it
toxic pewter
Ok appreciate it
daring marlin
I have like a main fomo when I play an alt
My brother in Odyn this is the exact expac where that doesn't happen
daring marlin
break the legion/bfa/sl conditioning
toxic pewter
My brother in Odyn this is the exact expac where that doesn't happen
I mean I obviously see your point but I also have this weird almost inferiority complex when I think of an alt
tropic gorge
I don't play alts because it feels like I'm missing out on making personal prog on the main
toxic pewter
Like alt <<< main
waxen frigate
Based
tropic gorge
Shit I tried to play my mage last week. Looked at the action bar and logged out lmao
proper roost
that's wild
waxen frigate
My name (Nish) comes from my RP sith character 🙂 Nisharahan
waxen frigate
Bonus points to anyone who can tell the inspiration for the name
tropic gorge
I was an arcane mage from the way back
I loved the opening of df. S1 was fun with arcane. Finally got it's time to shine.
proper roost
i'm of the staunch belief that all tank mains have to have a strong dps alt, that way you get some griefing tendencies out of raid
because you can definitely dps parsewhore a little too strong when literally ur only important raid job is to shut up, position right, don't die
daring marlin
100%
proper roost
have to play a dps you can pump on so that way you actually have a character that is legally allowed to dps whore on
waxen frigate
i'm of the staunch belief that all tank mains have to have a strong dps alt, tha...
Agree
sick sentinel
tried to run halls again
went fantastically until ice boss, healer got ringed, we died, someone leave
over in a blink of an eye basically
toxic pewter
That boss on tyran is actually pretty tough for healer
sick sentinel
one of those got him, looks like they got a bunch of move speed debuff and couldnt run in
toxic pewter
Ah didn’t move from the mechanic yeah not ideal
proper roost
the frost shock slow only goes on the tank
there isn't a slow for anyone else on that fight
did you get hit by that first glacial surge
🤨
sick sentinel
let me guess
if i get hit by th thing, it slows near by players and hits them for dmg
when we hide
proper roost
no it's just
a lot of damage
it isn't, at your key level
i'm actually kind of surprised that it did so little damage to you
modern brook
Nothing hit him he just jumped twice
Healers too busy casting flash of light or something to walk
proper roost
ah the back jump of male tauren
legit looks like the same animation as when you get knock backed slightly from a hit
cinder storm
yogi, stream when?
daring marlin
This is the question
warm plinth
@sick sentinel stream when
Also I named my paladin 'yogi123 skills' in details in your honor
sick sentinel
I think if i streamed i'd probably stream doom games
hardy snow
Can someone explain me why Second Winds is working on Rashok despite receiving damage?
warm plinth
Because you're amazing
hardy snow
Is tooltip badly written and it works differently than it says or what?
warm plinth
jk, but I don't know. It should not work.
hardy snow
warm plinth
Nah it's not supposed to work if you've taken damage
warm plinth
Oh, that's good to know
I guess
Lol
I guess it's potentially a lot of free healing on that fight
daring marlin
Same reason bursting and grievous didn't break SW.
warm plinth
I'd like to break you, if you know what I mean
daring marlin
which is goofy shit tbh
warm plinth
gottem
daring marlin
hardy snow
Are there any other situations (especially in raid) where it can be useful because its broken?
warm plinth
mmm, it's hard to say. Because a lot of damage that seems like it would be environmental is actually sourced from the boss itself.
Which would affect it I imagine
daring marlin
I did so many keys this week guys
I think I've done 4 total maybe
warm plinth
Slacker smh
crude notch
i did 69
warm plinth
13 on paladin, 10 on rogue, 13 on druid, 5 on priest, 3 on hunter, 3 on warrior, so 47 total
@daring marlin
I healed a 16 Neltharus which I was quite proud of. But tanked most keys on my druid
I tanked a 16 Neltharus and the group lead was like "are you sure you're good to tank this at 415?" I was like well I just tanked a 16 Uldaman and timed it so...
We didn't time it but it was not my doing. Shadow priest that we had died soooo much.
crude notch
4 hr maintenance tomorrow heck
daring marlin
<@145702969990578178>
Lots of keys to NOT INVITE ME TO
warm plinth
:sus:
toxic pewter
gotta level my evoker gonna augment people
warm plinth
Are we even friends on bnet?
oblique garnet
I think I've done 4 total maybe
Casual
warm plinth
apb weren't we just discussing that you need a break?
toxic pewter
I have a problem
oblique garnet
It doesn't count when they're all warriors
False
oblique garnet
warm plinth
Only took 3 pulls
daring marlin
Are we even friends on bnet?
We could be tho
warm plinth
We could be tho
Add me then and I'll accept when I get home. but I play at degen hours usually. Ghash#1346
oblique garnet
hey man I'm not gamin' much this week ok sheesh
Im just gearing up characters
Got the druid to 70 today
daring marlin
good expac for it tbh
oblique garnet
daring marlin
love it
oblique garnet
4 set on everything already 
daring marlin
I might actually do the dk
crude notch
look at all these bear fotm players smdh
oblique garnet
I need to do dk and dh at some point too
warm plinth
look at all these bear fotm players smdh
tbf I play resto more than bear usually XD
crude notch
We're up to 23 70s.
oblique garnet
look at all these bear fotm players smdh
Well yes i am indeed fotm andy since im tank now and well i play whats best
warm plinth
I actually leveled like...no characters this week. Just wasn't motivated.
toxic pewter
this is gonna be a looooooong season
crude notch
I did an evoker, lock, mage, rogue, and another dh this week
daring marlin
Why not 5 more droods?
toxic pewter
wat ur favorite and least favorite class
crude notch
Why not 5 more droods?
if they would let me level with the 10.1.5 I would.
toxic pewter
actually not bad idea leveling my fdk was fun and mine only lvl 36
daring marlin
Big breath pulls 
warm plinth
You don't play breath rn though
2h oblit is the main build
At least in keys, idk about raid
daring marlin
I know. I like oblit too.
Especially 3 target oblit.
yuge
great change they made and improved on in DF
sick sentinel
they made alot of good changes in dragon flight
i dont understand DK but mine is using this
cinder nova
wrong discord, yogi
daring marlin
unholy 🚩
toxic pewter
ngl just did a dungeon on my fdk and im actually havign fun
im back im not feeling burnt out anymore
granted I got vote kicked from 2nd dungeon so I gotta wait again to queue
the warlock kept trying to do the death summon thing
and I was like lets keep moving
daring marlin
toxic apb smh my head
toxic pewter
dude we were standing at rockmora
and this warlock kept doing that thing where everyone clicks it and a random dude dies
warm plinth
idk why that spell even exists anymore. I don't think it has ever been worth doing
toxic pewter
ritual of doom
warm plinth
At least not since way back in the day
warm plinth
lul
toxic pewter
I may not of said so nicely
warm plinth
Well
toxic pewter
but my point remains the same
warm plinth
Kinda deserved it then
warm plinth
Because it takes 0 effort to be polite
toxic pewter
but isnt it impolite to hold up the group with ritual of doom
warm plinth
I mean no one has to click the ritual. They could have just pulled the boss lol
toxic pewter
dude 3 out of 5 stood there clicking it
so I was like no, pull boss
then I may of said GO
or something
then i was back in org
pallid quiver
idk why that spell even exists anymore. I don't think it has ever been worth do...
It was specifcally brought back to be a fun ability to press; it's intentionally kept to not be relevant to playing well. It's just a pure flavor ability
I think things like that are nice if they could be sorted into their own page on the spellbook just to help show people that there's no need to keybind them
twin bramble
any1 struggling to get in pugs this week? every1 just want them pallys for afflicted?
cinder storm
It's a dead week for some people, its an ok week for others, pug your own key and invite 4 dispellers
twin bramble
lol
cinder storm
The 17-20 range is kinda of sus tho, be mindful of that
twin bramble
yeah. ive been looking for a 20
have been getting so many nubs in my 17-20 don't have the energy to level it back up
cinder storm
It's not a fun week tbf, most of the people I know only did some of their weeklies and are playing other stuff
waxen vale
yeah and I was like can we just pull the boss please
the last time that happened in one of my groups was a mists 20 in shadowlands dude ripped the whole key cuz somehow we wiped and it wasnt even worth it
sick sentinel
uneven mason
any1 struggling to get in pugs this week? every1 just want them pallys for affl...
Resto shaman - not even an affix
"Poison cleansing totem"
twin bramble
they need to hotfix over night and give warrior a dispell 😛
uneven mason
they need to hotfix over night and give warrior a dispell 😛
You mean give us back our dispell?
Oh, a cure
dusky canopy
Guess i gotta pass that one
fallow fern
What addon is that to show what classes are in the group?
fallow fern
Cool, gotta check that out
sick sentinel
i want that, plus, it shows number of battle rezes available and number of lusters (even if its just chance to rez, or drums, you can tick off if applies to you)
count self rez as brez maybe? dunno (shamans mostly)
lusty grotto
this week has been rough
just these 2 past days ive added more people to personal black list than any other week in DF
warm plinth
lusty grotto
the highlight of tonight was a healing druid, that left after a pally judgment the dumb first NL rock and i got giga bolstered in the ass
like why?
its like the 2nd pull of mobs lmao
proper roost
powerful
sick sentinel
everyone else get dc'd too?
proper roost
Apparently there might be another ddos
lusty grotto
anyway time to 
, heres hoping for a good vault for once
oh i forgot affix predictions
sick sentinel
it debating getting on for a 16 or 17 of ez mode key
lusty grotto
whats the call @warm plinth
proper roost
good luck nimchip I hope you get rashoks
sick sentinel
timed 16 freehold, so, soon enough ill have io to join 16s 17s
lusty grotto
lol
sick sentinel
15 fh sorry
lusty grotto
both my healers got rashok 2 weeks ago on the same week
one of them got it last week on his hpal alt
sick sentinel
i ran a 15 fh just now that went exceedingly well run
lusty grotto
so good luck for your healer alts
sick sentinel
minimal death, person being eltist doesn't suck at the game lol
proper roost
both my healers got rashok 2 weeks ago on the same week
Fuck you and I wish you a very good brick hoi
lusty grotto
sir i shall grant you the bestest of luck
warm plinth
whats the call <@255696891000389633>
Incorp/Sanguine most likely. The only other possibility is Volcanic Spiteful. The only reason I think it's Incorp/Sang is because it's been longer since the last Incorp week than the last Volcanic week.
proper roost
I need to do 4 more heroic bosses on my shaman before reset so I can get 3 raid vault slots
sick sentinel
i bricked like 2 or 3 keys learning how to run halls this week
lusty grotto
fuck i hope its not sanguine
warm plinth
And then last tyr week will be Entangling Bursting (only possibility)
sick sentinel
first time i bricked it on the first and second boss, second time oon 2nd and 3rd boss and 3d time we beat it
warm plinth
How does the tank brick either of those bosses?
3rd boss even doesn't really make sense?
lusty grotto
god i just cant take another sanguine week, fucking hate it, i need to get uldaman up too
warm plinth
Unless you just stand in something and die
lusty grotto
2nd boss? you mean mr frog?
warm plinth
Right but like...1st boss you can stand there. 2nd boss you can stand there. 3rd boss you can theoretically stand there aside from hiding/moving out of glacial surge
sick sentinel
yes, it totally fucked up the gulp
lusty grotto
just press spell reflect and sit on the green circle
sick sentinel
i kept running out of if the first time and then on the first boss i wasn't taunting the adds to the boss
lusty grotto
if your dps isnt kiting froggies under, that's their fault though
sick sentinel
so the adds just killed everyone
lusty grotto
oh wow
dusky canopy
BRO YOGI
warm plinth
Oh dear
dusky canopy
I timed a 20 HOI not standing in the frog circle week 1
lusty grotto
well at least you learned, just on the 7th week?
sick sentinel
i know i know, it just didn't click for me that its that important
warm plinth
I don't even know what happens if you don't stand in it
warm plinth
Oh
lusty grotto
and then fucks you up with the aoe
sick sentinel
or, in the cse of frog its just simple as, circle bad, move out
i fucked up, not muich else i can say
warm plinth
Okay can I ask you something yogi? What process do you go through to learn dungeons? Because we're literally about to start week 7 of the season and you are still clueless on mechanics?
sick sentinel
first boss screws with my head starting at 25% or 30% or whatever, every group i been in for that insta lusts on pulling him, i dunno about other classes but i can only execute at 20%
seems like it'd make more sense to lust a couple second after you pull, maybe it over laps with p2 then
warm plinth
On your level it makes no difference. On high keys you lust the intermission
sick sentinel
im clueless on how deadly some mechanics can be, sure,
warm plinth
You didn't answer the question though. How do you go about learning dungeons? Like, do you just go in and wing it and not learn? Because like I said, we're at almost week 7 of the season and you're still learning basic stuff
proper roost
i mean tbf i think yogi does like 2 keys a week
warm plinth
I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to grasp what your process is because you might need to tweak it
sick sentinel
i look at the MDT and view the things i need to pull, and then i attempt to remember all the important stuff
proper roost
that's definitely way too overwhelming i think
i think just at a base level you just try to remember boss mechanics first
sick sentinel
sometimes i read the paragarph they put on the weekly route site
warm plinth
I'm not talking about the route though. I'm talking about mechanics.
The route is secondary to knowing how to play the dungeon
sick sentinel
learn by trail of fire to some extent yeah
warm plinth
Ok let me ask this then. Have you just been running out of the frog's circle the entire season?
sick sentinel
i don't think so, but also i only ran it at a very low level until now