that clearing diff of 6 stacks is huge
#protection
worn vine
craggy pilot
show logs maybe could help?
crude notch
do you have a wl and rogue?
worn vine
ya
jagged pier
and dk?
worn vine
yeah we got all 3
jagged pier
then u shouldnt have stack issues
worn vine
are any of those AA slows passives?
jagged pier
i mean dks is a talent
worn vine
ima be honest we arent the most S tier raid team as a whole if it aint passive they prob arent using it
jagged pier
warlocks is a curse
and rogues is a posion
warlock and rogues are 2 min duration
dks is 4 stacks and 30 secs duration
really not hard
crude notch
don't need an s-tier raid team to use utility that's p much passive.
gloomy hazel
DK has to talent for it which loses some strength for them to do it. Once we consistently had 2 slows up on each boss we killed it within like 10 pulls
jagged pier
im almost 99% certain AA slows are supposed to be used on that fight
no u dont
u need 1 lock
to put it up twice
gloomy hazel
I thought you could only have curse of weakness up on one target?
proper roost
it is literally passive for rogue (weapon imbue)
and its 1 gcd per 5 min or w/e on lock
gloomy hazel
oh no nvm it's one curse per target
left basalt
ya'll got any more of them vault screenshots
proper roost
Also if ur looking for help on fights and saying ur players wont help
Then what is the point
jagged pier
your literally a team
crude notch
if they won't help you, we can't help you.
jagged pier
if ppl dont want to help your never going to kill the boss
and yes dks has to loose like 1k dps from a talent to take theirs
craggy pilot
could share logs, it could be they are already using it 🤷
jagged pier
but that doesnt matter on a boss thats not a dps check
gloomy hazel
What do we sim for dungeon aoe, 5 patchwerk, 1.5 mins?
jagged pier
regardless of AA slows u should still be fine as mwahi did it without AA slows at like 420 ilvl or somthing
craggy pilot
What do we sim for dungeon aoe, 5 patchwerk, 1.5 mins?
Patchwek x3 1.5min (no lust)
Patchwerk x5 1.5min (no lust)
jagged pier
because his guild dumb
undone verge
HAHAHAHAHA lmao fuck off
lusty grotto
😡
undone verge
I ALREADY HAVE BOTH OF THEM
lusty grotto
i fucking hate you
undone verge
blizz can SMD
lusty grotto
that we can agree on
lusty grotto
ill take em
proper roost
undone verge
I want a little bitch slap from blizzard, like a cloak or bracers or something I dont already have
lusty grotto
it is when you get fucked every tuesday or perhaps you havent seen my messages
undone verge
blizz is giving me reach arounds on the daily apparently, I want them to be a little rough sometimes
lusty grotto
remember me getting strike twice last season?
oh yeah i cant remember it cause it never happened
undone verge
last season blizz didnt give me jack
lusty grotto
now lets see how good of vault my alt pally gets
lusty grotto
for once my pally didnt get something outrageous
still good vault
which bosses go up in ilvl after patch hits? echo and sark only?
heroic i mean
proper roost
Huh
lusty grotto
for vault loot
crude notch
what
nocturne spindle
none
lusty grotto
or was it just 17s?
crude notch
nothing goes up
nocturne spindle
mythic and 16+
proper roost
16s and up vault loot, mythic raid bosses only
nocturne spindle
thats int 10.1.5 or whatever though
lusty grotto
ah mythic only
crude notch
you can upgrade 441/444 to 447.
lusty grotto
yeah
nocturne spindle
maybe rare heroic items as well
proper roost
Maybe the 444 heroic sark cloak but unclear?
nocturne spindle
call to chaos and cloak probably
crude notch
Yo lemme upgrade my nelth's on my hunter pls
proper roost
dont the nelth trinkets drop at 437 or something
the heroic ones definitely are on hero track, i had to upgrade my shamans to 441
strong forum
its only mythic raid items
that you'll be able to upgrade to 447
so that early mythic raid loot actually has any purpose whatsoever
lusty grotto
roger
crude notch
well and some M+ vault stuff
jagged pier
ima be honest we arent the most S tier raid team as a whole if it aint passive t...
okay so i found a log your teams have AA slows, so its down to managing stack correctly and managing rage better to make better use of things, and running the correct talents.
first off let your co tank take the first boss and u only need to taunt off once or twice to get one stack to clear before the second boss comes down. then after thats with 2 bosses its very regular. when the debuff falls off, u only need to hold for eruption and u should have SW up for both eruptions as they are far enough apart.
your talents and your rage management are whats failing you, u arent generating alot of rage, so your missing out on a lot of casts. firstly a i suggest swapping out of BSV it wont be saving u. and your missing a lot a rage from rav to play with. i would also swap out of instegate and take unerving focus is far more rage and on a short 1 min cd with last stand making your rage gen every minute insane. your big biggest issue, is your outburst managment. your often spending your outburst on TC over SS which is a huge no no in raid, your loosing damage and rage.
so just a few things to fix really, also suggest get a big ass stack WA or TWM for the aoe debuff and infused strikes for your self so u can keep track of them if u arent. and mark both the tanks so you can find each other easily
lusty grotto
i dont think ive ever seen a jakey message so long
lusty grotto
proper roost
Huge post!
worn vine
okay so i found a log your teams have AA slows, so its down to managing stack co...
i appreciate this i just started prot war this tier and all of this was good and valid
lusty grotto
good shit
worn vine
i need a WA to track outburst, fix talents and fix my warrior brain 
jagged pier
fixes 99% of the issue we see in here doing that
youll get there is a hectic fight for a new warrior but get the basicas down now because zskarn will be worse
worn vine
zskarn hurted on heroic prog LOL
lusty grotto
sick sentinel
mikey was on drugs the entire original 80's cartoon
lusty grotto
so was shaggy
proper roost
rashok kinna hurts too idk!
sick sentinel
always talking about, mushroom and cotton candy pizza stumblin over his words dont know whats goin on half the time
half time time hes words are whoa dude
proper roost
Yogi let the man enjoy his weird pizza
worn vine
fixes 99% of the issue we see in here doing that
il let you know when we kill it so you can check the log lol
jagged pier
👍
restive fulcrum
Do you guys think the Voice of the Silent Stars cloak buff is worth the stamina drop? Might be raiding as tank in mythic soon and was curious on if I should swap to a normal cloak.
jagged pier
I use it on most bosses
toxic pewter
in 10.1.5 can upgrade my sark cloak to some mythic ilvl u think then it may be worth using
jagged pier
Ill use my 447 on zskarn and rashok
sick sentinel
baxter stock man was always a pretty terrifying villina to me, speaking of TMNT
the scientist that turns into a fly,
lusty grotto
he was a parody of the the Fly movie
sick sentinel
krangs body is what scared me even more as a kid
i had no idea what to think of that
strong forum
Do you guys think the Voice of the Silent Stars cloak buff is worth the stamina ...
on most bosses yes, but if youre progging i wouldnt wear it on experiments, rashok and zskarn
and in m+ absolutely hell not
restive fulcrum
Thanks, will probably be stepping in on Mythic Rashok so i'll swap it off
strong forum
if youre nowhere near in danger on most pulls, then you can slap voice on
or other way around
start with voice, if you find yourself into too much danger, swap off
depends how you wanna approach it
sick sentinel
When do i drop 2piece season 1
strong forum
mentioned in pins
sick sentinel
i have 3/4 2 equipped
strong forum
you unequip 2pc for new 4pc, or when you sim higher without old 2pc
sick sentinel
so only drop 2 piece season 1 for 4 piece season 2
cuz, thats what ive been doing, and thats the pland until catalyst in another week
sand kettle
is lariat worth it for us at full sockets over 2x shadowflame patch or nah?
crude notch
except clearly you don't know how lariat works now nim
lusty grotto
or if youre referring to the proc
crude notch
🖍️ 😋
sand kettle
aight ty
crude notch
🖍️ 😋
lusty grotto
but most people say full sockets dont mean all socketed gear
crude notch
they do when talking about lariat
sand kettle
yeah i meant full powered lariat proc vs shadowflame
lusty grotto
well i rather not assume they do
crude notch
p easy to be full socketed this season. just ask @waxen frigate
crude notch
Meant @waxen frigate
strong forum
cuz double shadowflame is just solid, especially where it matters
crude notch
All you N named people are the same
sick sentinel
i was considering making a normal necklace because then i can get a crit haste one without do raid
or same logic but haste versa cloak, or pants
lusty grotto
either way it doesnt hurt to do pins embelishments, at worst people will have to recraft to swap em, and by that time shadowflame will be cheaper
if it doesnt pan out
sand kettle
yeah im on double shadowflame now, just re evaluating now that im filling out all my sockets
i know some specs do still like lariat, wondered if we were one of them
tank stat scaling though
lusty grotto
i know my rsham got told fuck healing darts, just go lariat with fully socketed gear
lusty grotto
but anyway hes not fully socketed so hes just looking at it
he has spore
that was his first craft
sand kettle
the wrists are good too arent they?
strong forum
we are one of the better scaling tanks, so id assume that if you have full 7 elemental sockets that its alright
torn gulch
double shadowflame is solid enough
i find it pretty hard to believe that full lariat proc is better
sick sentinel
i need this helemt
strong forum
but like i said, didnt sim it for aoe
sick sentinel
its the dk boe appearance one
torn gulch
warriors do not wear helmets
sand kettle
what paramaters do you guys like to use when simming for m+ reasons?
sick sentinel
don't really want the lfr and mythic ones but i have heroic one, defintely need the normal mode one
nocturne spindle
what paramaters do you guys like to use when simming for m+ reasons?
5 boss 40 sec 1 boss 3 min find a nice middle ground
strong forum
1t 2min lust
5t 1min no lust
7t 1min no lust
10t 40sec lust
for bigger average, 5-10t 5-8 minutes with lust
torn gulch
this is how a warrior should be no helmet
strong forum
actually 2-3min bosses
sand kettle
ty, papa bless
waxen frigate
All you N named people are the same
daring marlin
That shit is sick
sick sentinel
nope, hlemet always on for me
crude notch
<:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
Oh wait that inadvertantly added Nome. Sorry Nome
lusty grotto
hey
chilly brook
they ruin all helms
not exactly true
lusty grotto
dont half ass it
sick sentinel
sounds like blizzard skill issue tbh
strong forum
waxen frigate
This lmao
chilly brook
the s1 warfront helmet oddly fits
vocal verge
are there not timers for 3rd boss HoI? Specifically for the frost shock.
lusty grotto
waxen frigate
Nomer why can’t I use external emojis in here
I’m angy about it
I pay for nitro I’m gonna Sue
lusty grotto
there are cd timers, just like sunder for 2nd NL boss
crude notch
Can't bear troupe in here that's the real crime tbh
waxen frigate
cuz racism
Racists ruining everything as usual
Speaking of racism, I’m getting offers from/applying to HOF guilds right now
lusty grotto
lmao
waxen frigate
I’m trying to do my due diligence before I accept a trial from a guild and join discord to just hear instant slurs
lusty grotto
i feel that statement can be swapped around for Rated BG groups in NA
strong forum
I’m trying to do my due diligence before I accept a trial from a guild and join ...
mixed in with the "are you a woman?" in the interview
waxen frigate
mixed in with the "are you a woman?" in the interview
Yeah the sexism isn’t ideal either. Or just yknow. General bigotry.
Unless it’s towards the French
In which case, anything goes
waxen frigate
jagged pier
are there not timers for 3rd boss HoI? Specifically for the frost shock.
little wigs has them
chilly brook
honestly idk why so many people are so fixated on it
waxen frigate
chilly brook
quite literally couldn't care if you're a woman or a man
just press your buttons
don't stand in bad
and don't be annoying
waxen frigate
quite literally couldn't care if you're a woman or a man
They need to know if they want to sexually harass u or not
daring marlin
not exactly true
sick sentinel
waxen frigate
and don't be annoying
Ok so that part I’m gonna fail
sick sentinel
heard this song last week or so, goes hard
chilly brook
current warrior tier helm actually looks good on tauren
sick sentinel
the lyrics are about, hes worked all week so hes gunna go to the club and drink pina coladas to relieve pain
toxic pewter
howd u get a pic of me
toxic pewter
time to finally buy this outfit so i can look my best
waxen frigate
time to finally buy this outfit so i can look my best
Tauren detected opinion rejected
sick sentinel
hey now come on lol
i was dwarve to start with
only the cow man cuz big tonk man + racials
some of our class ability icons are literal just a bull
delicate coral
hey i got a question
toxic pewter
I like th 2% extra crit dam so I switched to tauren cant go dwarf cuz thunderfury clipping issues
delicate coral
is 2 shadowflame embelished, better then 1, and frostfire ?
sick sentinel
i do think that crafting necklace haste crit is something i might do
strong forum
is 2 shadowflame embelished, better then 1, and frostfire ?
if you have eranog ring, there is virtually no difference between the 2
strong forum
yes
delicate coral
if i dont have ring which is better
strong forum
same answer
lusty grotto
no primary stat gem
sick sentinel
i got 3379 passive versa
nocturne spindle
das alot o vers
toxic pewter
called it
sick sentinel
aint theres is BS about i have to get a JC to do it and its bop and they have to have all knowledge into making that gem for it to be r3,w hich is only way its worth it
delicate coral
doing the siming between the 2 like you said its about a 80 Dps difference with the 1 shadowflame/frostfire coming out on top
toxic pewter
yeah but with 2 shadowflame u can choose the stats u want
and pick slots u want too
delicate coral
you mean the stats on the gear
toxic pewter
ya on the shadowflame embellished pieces
so it frees you up when deciding what to craft a bit more
delicate coral
i did hastecrit on both
toxic pewter
yah the slot for belt also is opened up if you choose not to do frostfire belt
delicate coral
i did bracers/pants for the shadowflame
toxic pewter
in the end it doesnt really matter I gues
nocturne spindle
bracers are terrible to craft their stat budget is so low
delicate coral
should i have done boots?
toxic pewter
bracers are a fine craft imo, i am making bracers next week
crude notch
On the contrary they're a good slot to craft on BC their stat budget is low. thus very unlikely to replace.
nocturne spindle
i mean with crafting going to 447 you will almost never replace a crafted piece with a drop
toxic pewter
eventually gonna have 447 crafted pieces in every slot except tier I guess anyway
shrug
unless u r mythic raider
crude notch
The point of this was the bracers
and needlessly point out that they're low stat budget
strong forum
doing the siming between the 2 like you said its about a 80 Dps difference with ...
yeah so literally within margin of error
pick whichever item you like more
sick sentinel
well shit, i guess ill get on getting at least 1 of those primary stat gems
no, i thought it only went in crafted necks
sick sentinel
right, well, 1 for the one i have now, thats at 437
and then for a future neck, TBD date of use, hasn't changed the gem we use yet, cant see it change to some new gem in 10.2/3
delicate coral
so i the forgemaster weapon from M+ for Damage for M+ what is the better weap enchant
crude notch
i'm kinda whatever
my bear is just weekly vault'ing it at this point. we'll see if i'm up to doing more with it with the changes.
delicate coral
is that when they are increasing warrior damage?
well pretty much all tank damage
daring marlin
you mean everybody's damage?
crude notch
a lot has changed in 9 days
delicate coral
yeah
strong forum
so i the forgemaster weapon from M+ for Damage for M+ what is the better weap ...
would need to sim that, its between shadowwreathe, sophic and wafting devotion
vocal verge
well I think warrior already does competitive dmg so adding that extra % from the patch will feel real nice
vocal verge
were other tanks still using the ring in aoe at high ilvls?
waxen frigate
were other tanks still using the ring in aoe at high ilvls?
Yes
At least some were
waxen frigate
Or it was very close to a 447
strong forum
for raw dmg you need a socket to beat annulet
crude notch
ye
strong forum
next patch you dont anymore
waxen frigate
And what target count
strong forum
then its full on bye bye annulet
crude notch
POG SOCKET!
crude notch
(:
waxen frigate
Get me out dude
nocturne spindle
just crafted ring ezpz
strong forum
no its r1 log
crude notch
yeah imagine looking at a nish log
waxen frigate
nish has a r1 thank you
Not anymore
crude notch
LMAO
crude notch
First loser
waxen frigate
I still have a few on heroic but lmao heroic
vocal verge
I like cool effects on items. The items that just deal extra damage is meh for me though.
crude notch
stat stick trinkets are also borrowed power, don't at me.
strong forum
borrowed power is alright when:
- it enhances your class
- is not required for your class to be playable
- is not just flat +dmg procs
crude notch
delete all gear
sick sentinel
borrowed power is best when its at the tail end of an expansion
is like a bomb going off at the end of a movie
crude notch
borrowed power is alright when:
- it enhances your class
- is not required for y...
Wait so your 4p is not alright?
strong forum
it is because it still requires you to push buttons to do anything effective
and you get more value out of it the better you play
nocturne spindle
idk.. just straight damage on stuff feels okay, as long as next tier has stuff that replaces it that does more damage.
crude notch
and you get more value out of it the better you play
ah k , makes sense
nocturne spindle
i feel like the onyx and the eggnog rings are annoying
but stuff like the patch feels fine
toxic pewter
is eranog ring gonna still be used in 10.1.5
strong forum
if 40-60% of your dmg comes from shit that has no interaction with your class and just does damage just because
its not okay
3-5%, sure
but not what we have this patch
sick sentinel
ring was too powerful for its own good
strong forum
the issue is that they made it flat procs
instead of stat procs
so they buffed it to such a degree that DPS actually want to use it too
not considering that healers and tanks get far more out of this dumb item as the result
crude notch
BDK class so bad they still gonna use it right?
nocturne spindle
lmao
strong forum
probably
waxen frigate
BDK class so bad they still gonna use it right?
For sure
BDKs will still cope they can hit 100k overalls
While ignoring other tanks hitting 140k
sick sentinel
plush tendon
BDKs will still cope they can hit 100k overalls
I got to like 90 or 97k on a Freehold on my Blood DK
was super proud
waxen frigate
I’ve done 132k freehold on brew 
waxen frigate
bdk can hit 100k
Yeah I’m not saying they can’t
plush tendon
well, you know what.... you can like.... I hate you Ion
waxen frigate
I’m saying it’s like impressive when they do
strong forum
highest dps ive seen so far is 138k from pwar
waxen frigate
But they’re like “see our Dps isn’t that bad”
plush tendon
waxen frigate
highest dps ive seen so far is 138k from pwar
I think highest I’ve done is 142k in bracken? On brew
But my route was ass
strong forum
neat
strong forum
idk highest ive seen from vdh is like fucking 120k
crude notch
More BDKs than Brews
strong forum
never seen a vdh do more
waxen frigate
Rly
crude notch
Hmm
waxen frigate
That seems low
waxen frigate
More BDKs than Brews
Well that’s sorted by key level then by Dps
strong forum
average dps im seeing from naowh and andy is around 100k
waxen frigate
And nobody plays brew
waxen frigate
average dps im seeing from naowh and andy is around 100k
Ya there’s definitely a wall where they lose dmg in order to live
strong forum
reholy does
crude notch
you played yoself
strong forum
hm
crude notch
let's not look up 20s
crude notch
yeah but you play brew (derogatory) so
crude notch
The real question is will we see PWar in TGP FH
waxen frigate
^
plush tendon
No one plays BDK either
waxen frigate
Freehold gonna be fun to see in TGP
crude notch
All the cups will be played on 10.1.5
strong forum
pwar wont see play unless you see bshout value comp
well okay we will see pwar in TGP
cuz nextback wants to go for it
crude notch
lol
waxen frigate
pwar wont see play unless you see bshout value comp
Wonder if you’d just see monk then 🤔 or just too squishy
If anyone gonna do it it’ll be equinox obv
crude notch
There will actually be no monk of any spec
waxen frigate
There will actually be no monk of any spec
Shush
strong forum
If anyone gonna do it it’ll be equinox obv
he needs a team for that he doesnt flame to shit
waxen frigate
he needs a team for that he doesnt flame to shit
LMAO
crude notch
Gonna subtweet em
waxen frigate
Tbf shantiana is somehow more insane
crude notch
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
waxen frigate
Her Twitter is actually unhinged
strong forum
shes banned on alot of shit for reasons
strong forum
ive been banned in max's chat for saying the word class discord
NA scene HATES class discords
strong forum
yeup
waxen frigate
Imagine being banned from anything ever.
Haha yeah like a class discord
waxen frigate
https://twitter.com/bansheeirl/status/1670388622401445888?s=20
It’s weird egos and tribalism on both sides
Ppl just feel the need to be at war
daring marlin
he needs a team for that he doesnt flame to shit
lmao he was justifying what he did to his last group he had it was pretty weirdge
plush tendon
Ppl just feel the need to be at war
well its wOrLD oF WaRCraFT
daring marlin
I have no idea just saw his tweets
I don't even follow the fuckin' guy just see them 24/7
crude notch
guilford doesn't even follow me D:
strong forum
the war of information exists pretty much everywhere
strong forum
simping
waxen frigate
I followed her to snoop on drama
crude notch
SARK NERF POG
waxen frigate
And she just randomly followed me back lmao
daring marlin
again?
waxen frigate
SARK NERF POG
Why today
daring marlin
I thought it was just swirlies in p1
waxen frigate
It’s literally HoF week
waxen frigate
Also idk if I’d say Zskarn is hard
plush tendon
idk Rashok is kind of a pain
waxen frigate
Just insanely rng
plush tendon
just a super tight dps check on that fight
waxen frigate
but they said no way 70 kills happens by the 27th.
Who is they
plush tendon
Zskarn I feel like is just the embodiment of frustration
waxen frigate
Zskarn I feel like is just the embodiment of frustration
Zskarn is the embodiment of mismanagement
Like
The designer fucked up
Instead of just accepting the L and moving on
Blizz did the worst possible solution
And made the boss harder for the worse guilds
plush tendon
better or worse then Queen Azshara?
nocturne spindle
was there actually a sark nerf?
waxen frigate
better or worse then Queen Azshara?
I only started in SL
nocturne spindle
i dont see news anywhere
waxen frigate
but between Nathria and now, as well as all my time in swtor
crude notch
was there actually a sark nerf?
yes
waxen frigate
Zskarn is easily the worst boss I’ve ever fought
crude notch
strong forum
I only started in SL
👶
crude notch
Zskarn is easily the worst boss I’ve ever fought
Did you do SLG?
waxen frigate
Did you do SLG?
Only fated
waxen frigate
Well for mythic
crude notch
We'll excuse you then
waxen frigate
I did heroic but heroic was whatever
waxen frigate
We'll excuse you then
Idk I’ve seen a lot of ppl saying Zskarn is worse
Slg afaik wasn’t a design flaw just buggy
Zskarn just sucks
Thoroughly
crude notch
I've seen it too, but they wrong
warm plinth
Anyone get a juicy vault?
olive bay
With bolstering this week, do you guys think the play in Freehold is still lusting the first pull and just hard nuking the Officer down so you don't bolster a bellow and kill the group?
crude notch
it's tyrannical
strong forum
on fort you generally lust first pull
nocturne spindle
Anyone get a juicy vault?
theres been like 5 447 forge bois
plush tendon
Anyone get a juicy vault?
I got a big haste/mastery ring : ^)
proper roost
yes, people even did that on fort week
successfully
you literally just need to not take the second bellow
olive bay
Yes, it's Tyr week but it's also bolstering and a bolstered Bello is going to nuke thegroup
strong forum
but on tyr you dont wanna lust that
crude notch
^
junior brook
Zskarn was good time compared to SLG, where you had waaay higher ~pulls
olive bay
okay, so you just have to kill the officer first then
crude notch
Yes, it's Tyr week but it's also bolstering and a bolstered Bello is going to nu...
It's tyran so it has no hp so you're not getting second bellow
olive bay
Andthat's on the DPS
warm plinth
Yeah you want lust to get him to p2 as fast as possible
Pistol shots will destroy you
olive bay
It's tyran so it has no hp so you're not getting second bellow
My guild group just wiped on it
proper roost
its tyr lol just kill the dude
crude notch
like dude has no hp
proper roost
usem dps cds
strong forum
thats a group issue
crude notch
bolstering doesn't do anything to hp anymore it's only damage, there's absolutely no reason he shouldn't die before second bellow
daring marlin
I got a big haste/mastery ring : ^)
big blocks baby
warm plinth
plush tendon
Zskarn cant be as bad as this
crude notch
Zskarn is definitely worse than Azshara
waxen frigate
Zskarn cant be as bad as this
Pull count doesn’t necessarily reflect dogshit
crude notch
And I say that as someone who hates LoS mechanics
waxen frigate
Zskarn is an easy boss but it’s so rng dependent
Like the Dps check is easy
Heal check isn’t terrible
It’s just so random
plush tendon
I guess the 40 hours of Queen Azshara and never getting the kill just makes me hate that period of my life so much
waxen frigate
I guess the 40 hours of Queen Azshara and never getting the kill just makes me h...
That’s fair tbh
crude notch
That was mekkatorque for us because we had like 4 of THOSE people
waxen frigate
I love Halondrus but I also hated progging it bc my guild sucked
plush tendon
That was mekkatorque for us because we had like 4 of *THOSE* people
was your raid leader colorblind to?
and couldnt do colors?
we had 4 people who could see colors
was really eye opening
velvet knot
This is my first vault as warrior. Should i open as prot or arms? I have 2 m+20 slots and 2 heroic slots. Neltharion was killed. I don't have any bis trinkets or weapons.
crude notch
Guess it's better than hearing colors
velvet knot
I have 447 shield.
crude notch
fury if you want forgestorm
velvet knot
Okay, thank you c:
olive bay
Fury for forgestorm and dps trinkets
olive bay
ah rip
lusty grotto
beacon is available to any spec
olive bay
Oh it is?
lusty grotto
no need to dps loot spec it
olive bay
I didn't know that
lusty grotto
yea
olive bay
That's good to know
jagged gust
I thought we were going fury for trinkets, isn't forgestorm listed as a prot weapon?
lusty grotto
only mark and anvil need dps loot specs
velvet knot
olive bay
I thought we were going fury for trinkets, isn't forgestorm listed as a prot wea...
fury can loot 1hs and not shields so you technically have a better change of getting it as Fury than Prot
Assuming trinkets are the same number
chilly brook
heck this discord
good I can bearly stand you
chilly brook
Any of this decent?
idk sim it
daring marlin
tank dies on rashok
waxen frigate
i have choker at 437 already.
Jordan is my choker
daring marlin
chad udk saves it
chilly brook
is a pun
waxen frigate
UwU
velvet knot
idk sim it
isn't simming for prot fucky?
velvet knot
i guess i take dwarf trinke tthen
chilly brook
the other 5% is small shit like rings or trinkets
crude notch
NO
chilly brook
or keeping a set bonus
toxic pewter
f that raidhorn trinket
velvet knot
'Sim it'
Raid horn sims best
"Don't take that"
chilly brook
obviously there are some inaccuracies
that happens to be one of them
sorry I didn't look at the screenshot
velvet knot
So if sim is inaccurate what do i take here?
daring marlin
'Sim it'
Raid horn sims best
"Don't take that"
There's a reason. It does good damage but it splits the damage between you and the mob if you eat it.
crude notch
The sim is accurate, you just have to not hit yourself
crude notch
So if sim is inaccurate what do i take here?
Is there nothing else on the sim?
like what
toxic pewter
last season I took dragongames equipment from my first vault and it sucked the entire season so dont do it with raidhorn
olive bay
The sim is accurate, you just have to not hit yourself
stop hitting yourself
crude notch
stop being an angsty teen for half a second and think
waxen frigate
last season I took dragongames equipment from my first vault and it sucked the e...
Soccer trinket was bis
chilly brook
just take the second best item
toxic pewter
Soccer trinket was bis
yah I just hated using it though just found it really annoying
velvet knot
Second best would be this.
chilly brook
while trying to make it hit the mobs
velvet knot
how dogshit are your trinkets though
crude notch
well
velvet knot
sweats
warm plinth
Do not take raid horn. Please God. I am stuck with it on my rogue right now and I would literally use a lingering sporepods if I could
velvet knot
Taking choker is tempting. It'd be perma bis i never have to worry about again. I can upgrade that to 447 next patch.
chilly brook
fr tho getting replaced if I ever continue doing things on my warrior this season
but I'll prolly continue being a dragon boi for the rest of this season
velvet knot
that ain't crit/haste
Isn't crit = vers
velvet knot
for m+ is crit or vers better?
jagged pier
and then I can be a simpvoker
wish u could be mine
chilly brook
and do more damage
chilly brook
wish u could be mine <:sadge:820202363359854633>
my services as simpvoker are for hire for anyone NA
jagged pier
crude notch
be my simpvoker
chilly brook
bet
crude notch
Have I told you Matt how you're my favorite person in all of Skyhold?
warm plinth
daring marlin
I should gear my warlock
daring marlin
jordan carry me
waxen frigate
there is no "bad" stat for prot
Agility
crude notch
ain't no argument here
crude notch
jordan carry me
i have a raid in an hour
later
wiat you're in aberrus
don't @ me
chilly brook
crude notch
430pm
lusty grotto
warm plinth
Vers isn't trash
chilly brook
tell that to jakey
daring marlin
uh oh
warm plinth
@jagged pier vers isn't trash
crude notch
oh snap
lusty grotto
warm plinth
I agree with you there
crude notch
conceptually nish is a trash wow player
cinder nova
Aged like milk lol
waxen frigate
conceptually nish is a trash wow player
That’s on god
chilly brook
@velvet knot if you want an actual illustration of why the outlook on vers has soured https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1118899927712530492/zNlYB1r.png
warm plinth
Wdym S? I was right
cinder nova
Jordie, I don't know why you see fit to ride my cock every Tuesday, but this is a nonconsensual exchange.
lusty grotto
idk about you guys but we all won on predictions
warm plinth
Jordan I am glad you took be kind out of your bio
crude notch
Misunderstandings are acceptable for people that aren't S
cinder nova
Still not fond of Bolstering. Usually can watch it rip groups apart anyway because DPS can't turn their brain on to focus the highest health or highest priority target.
warm plinth
Yeah you need to set wcl to show desktop site to even use it on mobile
crude notch
new bolstering is free af on tyran
cinder nova
I dunno, watching people not stun Clawmangle in a double on BH with Bolster is picturesque.
Also
ANVIL GAAANG
lusty grotto
😡
crude notch
I dunno, watching people not stun Clawmangle in a double on BH with Bolster is p...
this has nothing to do with bolstering whatsoever.
daring marlin
me need evoker legendary 😦
big F
crude notch
me need evoker legendary 😦
now you get to run an additional difficulty to roll for it!
daring marlin
do raid finder
cinder nova
You think people getting killed by an NPC with bolstered damage has nothing to do with Bolster
very interesting take
chilly brook
oh is that finally out?
crude notch
oh is that finally out?
ye
chilly brook
I missed two weeks cuz work trips
jagged pier
<@179993058186625025> vers isn't trash
just because it isnt trash doesnt mean its good
crude notch
just because it isnt trash doesnt mean its good
except you literally said it's trash
:pepega:
chilly brook
crude notch
does that mean jakey is trash?
daring marlin
lusty grotto
warm plinth
Jakey is good though XD
crude notch
but he's not bis, so he's trash
chilly brook
does that mean jakey is trash?
DON'T TALK ABOUT MY PANDA BROTHER LIKE THAT
daring marlin
https://tenor.com/view/online-classes-throw-away-computer-parks-and-rec-ron-swan...
best reaction ever
chilly brook
Jakey OG panda prot boi
lusty grotto
i respect your face
jagged pier
Jakey OG panda prot boi
im waiting for tuskarr
toxic pewter
yah I am switching to Tuskarr day 1
crude notch
tuskarr ain't happening fam, time to move on
warm plinth
Random bitching though
Why do people use stat food to drink in keys
So tilting
Waiting 8 years for mana to regen
warm plinth
what spec have you tried?
chilly brook
but is a bit daunting atm
chilly brook
what spec have you tried?
only preservation this xpac
warm plinth
oh, idk shit about preservation except it's annoying positioning-wise
toxic pewter
resto sham is most approachable healer imo
chilly brook
Pres isn't too bad
it's when shit goes sideways/huge intakes of damage where I need more guidance
I'm assuming it's down to proper use of echo but I gotta get someone to break it down for me barney style
chilly brook
spec seems hard
you can honestly press your two 30 second CD buttons on CD and it'll get you through a lot of content
proper roost
I mean thats true for all specs
there was that goofus french pwar doing 24s like two weeks ago that people kept idolizing
That had wacky play
chilly brook
Also use rescue to reposition pesky ranged players who think they should be off in narnia so that they're in your breath
cuz fuck them
proper roost
but if it dont click for me i don't want to learn it
rsham clicked for me like insta (tbf has been same spec for like a decade)
waxen frigate
rsham clicked for me like insta (tbf has been same spec for like a decade)
Bro I had this RSham last night in an 18 hoi
chilly brook
'use totems as necessary
waxen frigate
Unfathomably bad
toxic pewter
smh
chilly brook
Tbh only reason I'm trying to learn healing again is because healers don't exist this season
toxic pewter
gonna level my evoker now that you mention it in preperation of augmentation
crap timewalking over isnt it doh
proper roost
Is there a raid item weekly quest this week
toxic pewter
na its pvp
waxen frigate
POV: you spent 30min listing your +17 key and took the first available healer (2500io)
toxic pewter
lmao holy shit
waxen frigate
(And the key started at 9:48)
toxic pewter
..awkward...
signal perch
Hi, is Heart of Thunder a good dps trinket for prot warriors%?
waxen frigate
Yep
proper roost
is it really that dire nowadays
toxic pewter
Hi, is Heart of Thunder a good dps trinket for prot warriors%?
one of the better dungeon trinkets we can get generally, loses value if you are not actively tanking though
warm plinth
I couldn’t even be mad
tf did you guys die to?
waxen frigate
This was after the 3 orb pull in HoI (so 3 pulls in)
Oh sorry it was an 18 not a 17
proper roost
Oh
warm plinth
yiiiikes
proper roost
probably panic then tilt lol
waxen frigate
Like
warm plinth
vicious clawmangle 😬
proper roost
in uncoordinated groups in low keys u take literally like 3x dmg because no one uses aoe stops
waxen frigate
I was kicking
The second the stun ended
Just all 3 people die
This dude died over 6sec
And pressed a single button
One chain heal
proper roost
lot of damage tbh
Idk man I feel bad for healers doing low keys
That trash goes from 0 to 100 very fast
waxen frigate
lot of damage tbh
I mean
Ya just gotta heal through it
Hunter died through turtle
Like
What can you do
proper roost
idk what to say abt that its unironically hard to heal through even in 18s
and he doesnt know the key
hes doing 18s
Ur just punished more for that as heals than other roles
waxen frigate
I feel like
proper roost
for the frontloaded fort keys
waxen frigate
There’s been key power creep since I started playing
Like I remember in S1 SL an 18 was like
Not a cakewalk
warm plinth
blizz like we don't want to punish healers so much with affixes
blizz also like let's punish them with the dungeons instead
waxen frigate
Compared to now
waxen frigate
It’s just odd to me
Feels like the first like
15 key levels are literally irrelevant
proper roost
its legit hard to heal through fort hoi first trash area unless u know the packs already pretty well as a healer
signal perch
sorry, again. 1 more question. Is there a haste cap?
waxen frigate
But you’d think in an 18 they’d know them at least somewhat
daring marlin
at least all the trash after first boss is free
proper roost
U telling me u knew what every mob ability did by 20s in keys
waxen frigate
U telling me u knew what every mob ability did by 20s in keys
I knew the very basics of the first 3 pulls
proper roost
people doing 24s still dont know a bunch of abilities
waxen frigate
Most notably the unavoidable death beams
That you literally just have to heal through
Like there’s not even something to know on that pack
It’s just
Heal
No dispel or anything
proper roost
Idk what to tell u other than its not as easy as just heal thru it
jagged gust
sorry, again. 1 more question. Is there a haste cap?
There are tiers of soft caps, but unless you're a complete maniac with your gearing you'll never have to worry about it affecting your stat priority
proper roost
u can roll a healer alt and get it to 440 in two weeks
waxen frigate
I mean what else is there to that pack
proper roost
and see for urself
daring marlin
I got a rashok's on my pally
waxen frigate
u can roll a healer alt and get it to 440 in two weeks
I healed 18s last tier with no idea what I was doing 🤷♂️
daring marlin
might give holy a whirl
warm plinth
Several people are typing...
waxen frigate
Not clean but like
daring marlin
since healers don't exist
signal perch
There are tiers of soft caps, but unless you're a complete maniac with your gear...
I am sitting at 41% haste, wondering if I should switch some items
waxen frigate
Not that bad
warm plinth
I guess you're just a god then
proper roost
Hpally seems fun
proper roost
Beacon of virtue way simpler than planning cloudburst
warm plinth
I am sitting at 41% haste, wondering if I should switch some items
You should not, since that 41% is likely with a lot from talents.
daring marlin
My rotting flresh was just getting in the way!
waxen frigate
Faeline stomp + spin 
proper roost
like i said its easy to gear any alt 440 in 2 weeks now
gear a prevoker or rsham both are meta and easy
heal a high fort key
jagged gust
I am sitting at 41% haste, wondering if I should switch some items
well 40% is the second tier, personally i'd sit it at 40 because anything past that is working at 80% efficiency. 41 is whatever, i wouldnt worry
waxen frigate
I’m not saying healing is easy