protection

[toxic pewter]

Oh wait haven’t they played on some non updated tournament realm before or am I misremembering

[crude notch]

And that's a client issue

TR is on live realms

It's connected to live client

is the problem

[toxic pewter]

Ok

[crude notch]

It's not like other games that actually separate their clients

[toxic pewter]

I see

I guess they see it as everyone has to encounter and deal with the changes at the same times so at least it’s fair

Lol

[crude notch]

It's incredibly cursed because they start getting access here this week so no matter what they're starting practise on 10.1

[craggy pilot]

@strong forum just had a +20 BH, i died once with Hyena hitting me for 60k, while it was being blocked, but was with no IP it looked like

probably wasnt the Hyena reason i died

but seems shit is hitting for 120-150k in +20

and block takes off 60k or so

[strong forum]

without logs this is all just feelycraft

[haughty swan]

Which set peices are the prot bis? Im assuming all the ones with haste on but might be wrong

[olive bay]

Ohhh, I got logs to look at from last night

[craggy pilot]

yea all i had was i died, and checked Combat Log, and it said 60k (55k blocked)

[strong forum]

ye all the haste ones

[hardy snow]

the ones with higher ilvl

[strong forum]

but generally ilvl as jawor said is just king

[haughty swan]

k

[craggy pilot]

and otherwise you can sim it

[toxic pewter]

Those pants with all that crit tho..

[craggy pilot]

shoulders have quite low Haste 🤔

[olive bay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9wgV7vHKqzTfJtYQ#fight=3&type=damage-taken&source=7&target=50&ability=1

[craggy pilot]

and its high mastery :<

[olive bay]

From my 20 last night - average hit was 42k and 88% was mitigated

Oh you probably meant Vicious Hyena - I think the boss ones are different. That was 50k average with 85% mitigation

[craggy pilot]

ye the 1st area Hyena

not boss ones

[olive bay]

yeah, looks like the first area and boss ones are both named Vicious Hyena

[craggy pilot]

they are the same, but i guess the boss ones dmg less because its Fort

[limber prawn]

any suggestions on a possible spark here. I have the tactical cleaver in the bag for possible 441

[craggy pilot]

@strong forum finally i can try out D4 tho ❤️ do i just go straight to Barb or what? xD

[crude notch]

Gotta get 3.1k for the title

[craggy pilot]

title?

[craggy pilot]

which Embelish do you have?

[olive bay]

I did the campaign on sorc (world tier 1) on HC and never came close to dying. I hear Warrior is solid though

[craggy pilot]

Frostfire Belt could be an option here tbh

[craggy pilot]

was thinking of trying Assassin

did Assassin in my D2 remastered runthrough, and that was fun as fk

[olive bay]

That would be Rogue

Rogue is dope as fuck, got nerfed but it's still fun af

[craggy pilot]

is it combo point based?

arent they like Rogue/DH/Assassin mix? with Trap, Dagger and Ranged Weapons all in a big mix

[olive bay]

I think there might be CP later, but early there definitely isn't

Just run the same build everoyne does from Maxroll and you'll steamroll everything

[craggy pilot]

first runthrough im not gonna look at builds

maybe later when i get into higher lvls

[waxen frigate]

its one of the specializations yes

[waxen frigate]

based

[waxen frigate]

I think the specializations are Combo Points, Momentum, and idk the third

[crude notch]

Do you ever think someone will be wild enough to make a D4 PoB? @strong forum

[broken crater]

titles neither 3.1k nor at a fixed score

[crude notch]

@broken crater looking cute

[jagged gust]

There's something special about rolling druid and infinitely trampling everything in sight with landslides

[crude notch]

i'm aware

as someone who's been tracking it every week

I'm well aware

[waxen vale]

Ive kind of accepted once you get to this point gear doesnt matter

[broken crater]

tbf nelth is kinda useless to compare with due to chain abuse

[cerulean tusk]

Hoy, lada. Last boss in HoI is slapping ppl down with melee attacks, even as I am in melee myself. What do?

[broken crater]

:uwu:

[craggy pilot]

where can you track it?

and what was the breakpoint in S1?

[broken crater]

click me, first link

[craggy pilot]

3180

hmm

[broken crater]

🤔 its 3112/3060 atm

for EU/US respectively

and S1 was 3336 / 3302

[craggy pilot]

doesnt it say 3221 for today?

ohh thats expected outcome

[icy atlas]

What key level does that roughly correspond to?

[broken crater]

some 26s, all 25s

[icy atlas]

Dayum

[broken crater]

3280 is all 25s

[icy atlas]

And this is for the top 0.1% title?

[broken crater]

yup

[icy atlas]

I'm almost there

2200

[broken crater]

soon ™️

[crude notch]

Basically there really

[icy atlas]

😂

[crude notch]

There's like no difference between you and those other 10 pwars in title range

The real question is will this week end with more PWars or more BDKs in title range

[toxic pewter]

How much uptime does vdh have on fiery brand

[strong forum]

in aoe close to 100%

in ST like 60%?

ish

maybe more idk

[toxic pewter]

pretty solid

[waxen vale]

Pre patch people were saying dh looks op if you can spec into dam but the y didn't think it would be possible in high keys

Due to 4 set i guess

Idk if that's actually the case

There was also talk of defensive rotational choices killing dam

[sick sentinel]

mark does not exist

[strong forum]

cuz lunchboxing existed

where you could do stupendous amounts of damage with it

[limber prawn]

double shadowflame

[strong forum]

but now an easier to play defensive build has creeped its way up where you dont have to play around frailty stacks to get by a more consistent demon spikes build

so DH got easier and more stable in a sense for certain high keys

[waxen vale]

Wut lunch boxing

[sick sentinel]

chillin at the pvp upgrade and spoted a literal buttonmasher doin his thing

he was doing this for at least 3 minutes on various dummies

[dusky canopy]

A lot of micro management for fiery brand glad it’s gone

[strong forum]

It was a bugged interaction of 4pc and fiery brand

Which got fixed 12hrs before 10.1 launched

[cerulean tusk]

Ah, the infinite stacking brands tech

I remember it

Was a bit too volatile and broken

[waxen vale]

Lmao nice gear

[sick sentinel]

the thing that routinely makes wow worth re-subbing to is you never can expect what kind of bullshit you are going to see

random nobodies doing npc stuff, or huge loot drama over boots

[waxen vale]

I can't even tell what he's doing

I've only dabbled in fury

But i def think the term button masher safely applies to even the good ones lol

[sick sentinel]

something that involves 100% enrage uptime anyway, he never lost that buff in combat from what i saw

[waxen vale]

Had he cracked the code

[toxic pewter]

sees fury warrior, turns around slowly, walks away at fast pace

that is what I do every time

[ruby steppe]

Hey guys, how much do I have to pay to get shadowflame aspect crafted and then to recraft 424 shield to 447? Don't want to get scammed 😄

[strong forum]

5-15k tops

Should be very little

[sick sentinel]

what mechanics about melee or whatever exit about the worm boss in lair

healer got hit by melee, we did beat that boss that attempt and timed key

[hardy snow]

if you move out of melee range too early (for pull mechanic), he will melee close target

[sick sentinel]

i guess soon as i move out of melee range it targets nearest, thats what the recording shows

[hardy snow]

you have to move away when he starts casting, and return before he starts meleeing ppl

but we have leap so its not a big problem

[sick sentinel]

ah, i just backpedaled a bit too much to avoid goop

[hardy snow]

you can leap and hide behind eggs on the side

[sick sentinel]

but i have to stand at that boss the whole time until he does tongu,e or she melees ppl

the green puddles infront of the boss kill alot of my group mates

[azure temple]

How do you deal with the bleeds from the basilisks on uldaman? When I kite I have had people complain but 2 stacks on a 22 pretty much kills me in seconds

[toxic pewter]

Just gotta do whatever you can to survive

Then tell the people to shut the fuck up

Kiting those mobs is a perfectly valid strategy imo

I usually do like a loose circular kite on that pack of 3

[mental scarab]

@azure temple just Do the old jump in and pop all you got then leap the fuk away

[uneven mason]

TFW the healer says "I go fast bro"
Begs me to stop so they can drink every other pack....

[frosty mist]

to get a relevant sim with annulet (so aoe setup), patchwerk 5 target 1min30 ? or something else

[karmic plinth]

5 target 1m30 no bl is a good benchmark

[sick sentinel]

ignore healers and hold W

[left basalt]

what if your healer is your wife?

[gloomy hazel]

this resto shammy wants me to only prioritize haste/vers and is angry when I like crit.

[proper roost]

who cares, it's a pug you'll never see again

if he won't trade it to you gg go next, it's only week 6 of the season and you have 14 more weeks to get a better ring

never expect pug to trade loot anyway

[gloomy hazel]

I mean I didn't expect it, which is why I asked, and he didn't need it, which is also why I asked.

[proper roost]

most people don't know how to play their own class that well so it's not really news that they don't know how other classes work

[gloomy hazel]

Fair point

[sick sentinel]

lust on worm or final alir

im luster

drums

[proper roost]

it's much safer to lust on the worm

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-arthur-joaquin-phoenix-you-get-what-you-fucking-deserve-gif-15915948

[sick sentinel]

my group comp

[proper roost]

What a comp

[daring marlin]

I said what I said

[proper roost]

Don't be mean to yogi

he's trying his best

[daring marlin]

[sick sentinel]

boomys blowing enemys behind me

deserve

to

get

shot

[next yacht]

3k done boys

[daring marlin]

yes, very good

[proper roost]

Grats 🙂

I see that Neltharus fear though

[sick sentinel]

got to cast lust 2 times that key

almost never use drums my self

[queen agate]

gg @next yacht

[next yacht]

Thank you @queen agate

[dense verge]

Fucking love that Anvil trinket

[restive scroll]

Great job!
Doing it in pugs?

[next yacht]

Yes @restive scroll ,only pug

[restive scroll]

Damn, that's an even better job then :p

[green bronze]

i personally try to start the pull with my offensive cds, you start popping them 2-3 seconds before you get chomps and start spamming IP, should be enough to live through first 3 chomps

then you just jump away and kite

or can try to facetank a little more with SW, but try to avoid getting 2 stacks at that point

worked in my 21 key today

[uneven mason]

DPS who bitch about kiting should be answered with "I wouldn't have to kite if you did more damage"

[dense verge]

Tell em to use a slow and they won't move as fast

[proper roost]

It depends more on how you kite than whether you are kiting or not

Just off the top of my head uldaman has a fuckton of pillars and i have seen dog awful tanks pillar kite for no reason

if you do this, you are actively griefing your group

[hazy bronze]

Fax no printer

[unique osprey]

What are 2 trinkets to go after for raiding? Just heard I am tanking instead of fury. Want to know want trinkets to go after. And also haste versa is bis stats?

[jagged pier]

haste crit

and dps trinkets

[unique osprey]

I have vial + ominous at 441, just keep them?

[urban portal]

sure

[vocal nimbus]

hey @shut summit whay build did you use for zskarn progress?

[versed nebula]

Finally killed experiments and jesus christ i never want to tank that fight again as warrior

[proper roost]

Good news

Zskarn exists

[versed nebula]

I have never felt so miserable in my life

Nah im quitting wow now anyways so i survive zskarn too

[sick sentinel]

3 paladin 14 lair was quite the experience

[proper roost]

how'd it go

[sick sentinel]

we beat the timer i suppose

lost a HUGE amount of time between boss 1 and 2 as you can see - 8minutes

and then we wiped to final once, got up and lusted

is it a good idea to not do this pull in 15 and above forts?

someone said i should get the breakers first alone i guess, and just alot of death on that pull in general

[fresh igloo]

is that the first scorpion rider right before the last boss arena?

[sick sentinel]

first of them

right after worm

[fresh igloo]

depends on your healer and group. something like a 20 fort scorpion rider can drop a lot of damage, and adding on top of that the avalanches from the breakers at a bad time

I could see it being a problem quickly if people aren't prepared for it.

[sick sentinel]

i think part of it is the enrage like thing the scorpion does, (it can be de-enrraged by druids and huners and dragons and rogues} , with the cave in + scorp cleave

is a high skill check for some people maybe

[warm plinth]

I pull it even on +20. People should be avoiding avalanche by then (and if not, they're just gonna die anyway), which makes the scorpion the only source of damage

[craggy pilot]

i usually take 10k comission as blacksmith
the mats are probably 1-2k for an armor piece
shadowflame embelish costs like 7-8k
enchanted aspect crest costs around 15k (this is if you go straight to 447)

so it will be a bit costly if you add it all together
(these prices are what it is on my server in EU)

[crude notch]

People are charging that much for enchanted aspects?

[craggy pilot]

not what they charge, its what the mats cost

idk what people charge, i get them for free xD

mats alone are 16k on my server

[crude notch]

oh that's right dracothysts

[craggy pilot]

Dracothyst are very expensive on my server

yea 7.5k each

so if people charge 3k commission for Aspect Enchant, then its a total of 40k for a 447 with Shadowflame

[warm plinth]

I assume you're EU Nielsen?

[hardy snow]

its region wide price

currently 7,6k in eu for dracothyst

[craggy pilot]

on EU then i mean xD

[warm plinth]

It's 4.6k on NA right now

[craggy pilot]

buy a ton, transfer to EU

sell

profit

[warm plinth]

[subtle sigil]

Is there a haste soft cap for prot ?

[warm plinth]

40% from rating

[subtle sigil]

ah cool, so the extra ~15% from talents/rune etc are still functional ? thanks

[warm plinth]

rune is rating

[subtle sigil]

😅

[daring marlin]

https://twitter.com/jdotb/status/1670931155984478209?s=46&t=pKJqAaes9gysilv22ZNTqA

jb (@jdotb)

I understand echo's frustration about a short tier but let's not pretend the conversation wouldn't go like this

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 11:06 PM

luhmao

[sick sentinel]

yeah

wafting weapon enchant gives haste and move speed

but i decided to drop it for sophic, str proc

same with elemental chaos phial, one of the 4 buffs is a 1 minute long 600 haste buff

[hazy bronze]

Or eots

[daring marlin]

I am a fool

[sick sentinel]

no idea wtf a eots is without google

[graceful kite]

it was 9k like 2-3 days ago

so its cheap now

im thinking about holding mine to sell on wed

[graceful kite]

gold is cheaper on eu so everything so everything costs less on na

[graceful kite]

which server are u on

I can craft it on ravencrest and tarren for free if u want to

[craggy pilot]

damn i just bought D4, but now i wanna dive into this Drama wtf 🤣

[humble valve]

Hey guys one question, how much versa % is recomended?

Or the minimum

[craggy pilot]

there is no minimum

[humble valve]

So what would be the go to?

[craggy pilot]

like wdym?

you shouldnt go to anything

you should go tank

you need a shield

and then you vibing

[humble valve]

haha

Im getting tons of items without versa and if I keep replacing these items

I will drop bellow 10%

[craggy pilot]

so?

Versa is not all

[humble valve]

kk just asking

[craggy pilot]

Versa dont rly mean much currently

you can stack it if youre scared, but shouldnt have to

[humble valve]

And in order to know if an item is an upgrade, do u just go and sim it?

[craggy pilot]

usually yes

but sim is for DPS only, while defensive is not rly possible to sim

so just know that ilvl > everything

except for some specific cases like Forgestorm, Annulet, Diurna Ring etc etc

[humble valve]

Okey

I´m asking about the sims specifically when u loot a same ilvl item but with different stats

and u gotta choose for example between a haste/versa or haste/crit 441 item

[craggy pilot]

i would go with haste/crit

cus its more dps

but you can go haste/versa also

its personal preference

but vers is not a magical stat

[humble valve]

Okey, thanks for the tips

[daring marlin]

Oh no vers is most definitely a magical stat

It makes people assume it's the best shit ever

[last pebble]

placebo is v powerful

[warm plinth]

vers and crit are about the same dps. vers is fine. Idk how this mentality happens where it's like oh we need to stack vers, so we argue and fight to change that mentality and now it's like avoid vers like the plague

[humble valve]

In pvp u want to play with 30% versa, and at that point you lf other stats for example

Thought that in pve it could be similar that´s why I asked but as I can see this is not the case

[warm plinth]

Yeah vers is important in PvP because you want as much damage reduction as possible so you don't just fall over. Stats are much more important in PvP for that purpose. In PvE, gameplay matters far more than stats for survival.

[craggy pilot]

Vers is also 40% more powerful in PvP because of the set

but ye Vers MIGHT be good DPS, but thats why he should sim it

[warm plinth]

and ofc as a non-tank in PvP, you're getting hit a lot more than you would in a dungeon or raid scenario

[humble valve]

and do u sim with dungeon slide, patchwerk or custom mdt route?

[kind urchin]

I usually run more vers in magic heavy dungeons if we don't have a lot of kicks. Other than that I go for more crit.

[craggy pilot]

do you have 2 sets saved? like a vers set and a non vers set?

[craggy pilot]

sim Patchwerk for ST

[warm plinth]

patchwerk ST/multi-target

We don't use dungeon slice

[craggy pilot]

for AOE you can sim Patchwerk x3 1.5min (without BL) and Patchwek x5 1.5min (without BL) and make a qualified assumption of a mix between those 2 + the ST sim

[humble valve]

Okey thanks

[kind urchin]

Yes

[craggy pilot]

sick, thats a lot of gear xD

assuming its same ilvl

[kind urchin]

I have one ring and a neck that's one upgrade lower.

[crude notch]

lol

[pallid quiver]

I stack crit over vers when given the choice because ha ha funny big number

other than that i put my faith into the robot overlords

[sick sentinel]

hard to tell exactly how or why, but pally got aggor on this guy and died i gues

then immediately after, the healer got targeted by 2 spells and died

[torn gust]

oof

[crude notch]

hmmmm

[vale escarp]

7%?

[sick sentinel]

Who's log is that I womder

[torn gulch]

7%?
did he even try?

[last pebble]

"Help, im dying every pack and im not sure why? Any ideas?"

[sick sentinel]

not my key

[warm plinth]

7% is 100% just shield charge

[torn gulch]

yea i haven't had a key under 90% in forever since my clicker days

[toxic pewter]

been doing a lot of legacy content for transmog and apparently I sold my 447 trinket by accident

lmao

cant restore till tomorrow cuz i restored something 6 days ago

[torn gulch]

well it is what it is

[toxic pewter]

indeed

[proper roost]

have you tried sitting blizzard down midkey and having them explain to you what happened to your 447 trinket

[toxic pewter]

Are you ok

[gritty ether]

Hey guys, comin back 2 prot, I feel like theres times where I can't hit something and i don't feel like I mismanaged my rage. is that a haste thing?

im 424ilvl 25% haste

[proper roost]

no, trinket didn't drop again..............

[mighty valley]

Nah, should definitely have buttons to press every gcd, your rotation is off somehow

[vocal verge]

Yep. I often get annoyed when I want to revenge but pressing ss or tc is more important and they usually up

[lusty grotto]

@warm plinth whats the prediction for tomorrow's affixes

entangling + ?

could be bolstering

but im leaning to entangling

[crude notch]

yeah I'm liking bolstering entangling

or bolstering afflicted

[lusty grotto]

damn

lots of choices

[crude notch]

i got all the money in my wallet on bolstering 100% tho

[lusty grotto]

yeah i think that's a good call

tyr bolstering week

feels bad this week was kinda easy but our SP disappeared

so i couldnt push anything

[crude notch]

heck

[proper roost]

bolstering week

no pls

i need to push next week

[lusty grotto]

tbf bolstering tyr is okay

we will see

rather have it this week than next fort week, but im sure everyone feels the same

[proper roost]

already had a fort bolster likely not getting it again

[lusty grotto]

right

[crude notch]

you can push with new bolstering no prob

especially on tyran

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[warm plinth]

Afflicted Bolstering is my guess for tomorrow; they're not gonna do entangling/bolstering because we had that combo in week 2 with fort

These are my predictions for the remainder of the season

We can't have Afflicted Bursting because Blizzard said they wouldn't punish healers like that

[crude notch]

oh wait

yea

it's afflicted bolstering 100p

[cerulean tusk]

I want afflicted bursting, finding healers is already too easy

[warm plinth]

[crude notch]

entangling bursting tyrannical is the juice

[warm plinth]

Yeah I figured entangling/sanguine would also be kind of annoying

[crude notch]

can i dispel afflicted as a hunter with a pet?

[warm plinth]

So I'm pretending Blizz doesn't hate us that much

No, the pet can only dispel itself

[crude notch]

oh wait

[warm plinth]

and you have to use a spirit beast which is pretty meh since they fucked spirit mend and gave hunters tranq shot

[crude notch]

nvm your list is right.

[cerulean tusk]

You can heal it with Hati tho

[crude notch]

yeah it won't full heal it

ain't no world that happening

[cerulean tusk]

Neither will rally

[crude notch]

hmm i can't remember how much hp it has

my spirit mend is 24k altogether

man that's bullshit give hunter a dispel 😛

[cerulean tusk]

Like 2 healing surges worth

[crude notch]

if i can't deal with every affix i'm useless, i'm not a warrior afterall

[toxic pewter]

hunter next in line for a refresh

except survival sorta

[proper roost]

oh i didn't know afflic + bursting wouldn't be possible

that's nice

Incorp sanguine would be such a free week...

[cerulean tusk]

I rather just keep bursting sadly healers don't enjoy it

[hallow phoenix]

Finally got mark of dargrul and then talisman in back-to-back runs Gave talisman to our rdruid tho cause he squishboi

[toxic pewter]

grats

[lusty grotto]

seems like a solid prediction

[crude notch]

I think you getting garbage in your vault is also a solid prediction

[ionic fern]

Can't get garbage in the vault if you don't do activites that give vault.

[undone verge]

Real

But then my raid leader gets mad at me

[ionic fern]

Mine got mad because i wasn't putting in enough effort (read, i was too low ilvl in their mind).

So then i crafted some pieces, got to 442, and am chillin' again.

[undone verge]

Mine are more mad at me cause forgotten experiments was a rough fight lmao. Died way too much

And I forgot to enchant the new legs I got 2 days ago

[ionic fern]

Oh, jeah, the good old "shit tank".

"WHY DO YOU DIE WARRIOR? MONK AND BDK ARE FINE!!!!".

MUST BE BECAUSE PLAYER IS BAD.

[undone verge]

They can’t expressly call me bad cause

:flex:

But they’re like “why aren’t you in dstance” and I’m like I was in dstance when I died. You can’t just look at how long I was in bstance vs dstance and be like, “must have died cause no dstance”

And I looked at logs and I was taking avg dtps, 90+ hps, doing like 10% more healing to myself, but taking like 4 million less healing overall even though we were 5 healing experiments

[ionic fern]

Nice one.

Of course they can.

They can and they will.

Cause you died.

And tanks are not expected to die.

[undone verge]

Well they call me stupid, but not really bad

[ionic fern]

Lets be honest, majority of people don't know how other classes function.

I've also been called out for "focusing on dps" too much.

But they don't realise that "focusing on dps" means you press your buttons correctly which in turn leads to more rage which in turn leads to more indom/ip/AM reductions which in turn leads to less damage taken.

But nah

"BAD TANK DOING DPS BAD STOP "

[undone verge]

My raid leader told me that I died because I dropped ignore pain

[ionic fern]

[undone verge]

Idk I still don’t know if experiments is just me, or if all pwarriors are loathing that fight. Cause

[ionic fern]

Next time tell him "Jeah, but healing taken from external sources feeds into my existing IP, so it's the healers fault".

[undone verge]

Lmao

I found out after the night that I wasn’t getting beacon or earth shield, and both beacons were going to hunters and earth shield was on the dk

Like we were 5 healing and I was receiving around 4 mil less healing

Than groups that were 4 healing

[ionic fern]

Jeh. No one is a better log analyser than a person being blamed for something.

"You take too much damage because your low ilvl!!"..
Checks logs..ok, but i took less damage than other players with higher ilvl.

"LOW ILVL I SAID".

[pallid quiver]

I just don't understand what some people see when they look at logs

like, they just don't understand when one number is smaller than another or something

[warm plinth]

Killing us smalls

[proper roost]

that was a rollercoaster

[jagged gust]

Well it does bone like 95% of the community

[warm plinth]

By that time people should have spare sparks to just make a ring

[jagged gust]

Yeah, easily accessible ring anyone can earn vs. run 17+ mythics and also drop rng

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[jagged gust]

oh nice, I can never keep track of them

I'm just occassionally surprised by a nice ilvl upgrade

[crude notch]

with 10.1.5*

[crude notch]

But also, if you're in this category you're also still just better off running annulet.

[crude notch]

Same

[torn gulch]

you'll probably end up crafting both rings long term

at least one for sure

[sleek current]

We clapped Experiments last night and honestly... Curse of Weakness and Insidious Chill meant 2 stacks less by first charge. 6 stacks less by time Thad had dropped. 4 stacks less by the time Thad was dead. It changed the fight for me. I didn't need much healing at that point.

Rashok is going to be painful. Flaming Slash can one shot me without SR. Even with it, it's like 80% of my health.

Demo Shout is assumed, I won't have shield wall for every flaming Slash. I want to avoid spell block if I can. I definitely think there is some pressure on the healers though as they need to be ready to top me.

We did some test pulls last night, I think once I'm happy with movement it will all fall in.

I've seen people dropping Unnerving Focus for it and I'm not sure what that equates to in terms of rage generation what the exact numbers are on that.

[jagged pier]

look its easy

externals are your friends

jobs done

i time die first

[sleek current]

For sure. Haha

[jagged pier]

SW second

bark + stoneform 3rd

doesnt matter if i take 1 hit or 2

use them at the same time everytime

u wont die

they should do that

its their job

[sleek current]

Is his tank buster spell queued or does it happen at the same time every fight?

[jagged pier]

and externals arent used on anyone else in that fight

they just need to make a focus macro

its not spell queued really

the mechanics

happen in the same order

every time

they dont change

[sleek current]

My healers are great at externals. It's still early doors but, I'm going to see if we can get a rotation up so I don't need to ask.

Cheers

[jagged pier]

spell queuing is when the boss could cast 1 or 4 abilities randomly because it has 4 spell ready

yer its a cast variance same as any boss

spell queuing is different

[sleek current]

Yeah, that's what I meant. My bad

Terros was on the dot every time. Made for a bit of a boring fight but, you knew what was coming and when. Haha.

Aye those orbs are going to be a game in of itself. Haha.

[vocal nimbus]

can you guys recommend a zskarn prog build?

[jagged pier]

the same one

as the normal build

[vocal nimbus]

warcraft logs show 30% of spell block usage on mythic

when theres nothing blockable there

[jagged pier]

because ppl are dumb

and spell block isnt in the normal build ither

[vocal nimbus]

the doc says that searing claws arent blockable by anything

i guess that means only the stacking dot part right?

the melee hit itself can be blocked?

[jagged pier]

the melee is blockable by SB

but spell block does nothing on that fight

i guess it can reduce the knockback damage every now and then

[vocal nimbus]

not gonna lie im scared

[ionic fern]

3 tanking i take it?

Just remind your co-tank to taunt when appropriate so you don't get unnecessary stacks, and avoid bombs at all cost.

[crude notch]

Mwahi you're beautiful ily, keep up the good work

Jakeypoo you're wonderful ihu, keep up the great work

[thorny stone]

same time, what i do is:

1. sw 3 to 4 seconds BEFORE he starts the tank busters + SR.
2. spellblock+sr
3. sw is back babyyyyyy

[waxen frigate]

ya i would recommend the 'uninstall' talent

[hazy hazel]

Running 20 keys, I feel like my damage is so lack luster. I avg 85-90k overall a run. Yet when I fury with VDH tanks, they're sustaining dps numbers.

[latent jungle]

US peeps, what's the affixs for this week? Sincerely eu friend

[waxen frigate]

3hrs

[crude notch]

Nish hacking?

[strong forum]

onlihack

[sick sentinel]

Tyranical

Kappa

no idea what else, but tyranical is a given

[proper roost]

good luck on your vaults

what kind of tacos do i get for lunch

[uneven mason]

Because vdh has a insane set bonus and hasn't had any substantial nerfs, doesn't need em TBH

[uneven mason]

The answer is always steak

[proper roost]

Naw best tacos are al pastor

But also they got cheap quesabirria tacos here

[cinder monolith]

Can’t trust logs with prot warr for some reason

People do dumb things on this class

[proper roost]

pwar always has the most amount of boomer tanks

[uneven mason]

You're not wrong

I'm so boomer I scew the statistic

I remember when we didn't have an internet

[cinder monolith]

Pwarr players also seem to more be the tanks that give zero shits about their dps

And just take anything that’s defensive

[jagged pier]

🤔

[uneven mason]

But I at least press buttons and slam damage as much as my arthritis let's

[uneven mason]

Wat

[crude notch]

Oh?

what's your logic on this

[cinder monolith]

I was dead 15s on nelth kill and got r1

Confused me

[uneven mason]

Legit most pwar that don't come to skyhold run defensive stance

So I get where they're coming from

[crude notch]

except you can still pump in dstance so

[uneven mason]

Right

[crude notch]

still

[jagged pier]

i mean i dunno just check R1 and he didnt die

🤷

[cinder monolith]

My guild private logs

[jagged pier]

well done u got to cheese on adds I guess

[crude notch]

and ip literally feeds into offense so that's dumb

"my guild private logs trust bro"

[uneven mason]

But you pump ~15% less in dstance

[crude notch]

and SB

and everything

[hazy bronze]

"You don't know her, she goes to a different school"

[jagged pier]

"sure"

[cinder monolith]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/j7qHg2mTw3R8MYvn#fight=21&view=rankings

Unlisted

[uneven mason]

I've got more CE than your guild combined - on my other warrior

[crude notch]

we got em boys

1 out of 13!

woohoo

is that also the first post buff kill i can't check i'm in a game

[jagged pier]

i mean its 500 dps more than unprivate R1

so i dont know what u mean by

[crude notch]

lmao

[jagged pier]

ppl do no damage

[cinder monolith]

It’s not first post buff nah

Only 2 kills were pre buff

I believe

[jagged pier]

well done u did more damage on adds than the other tanks

not really relavent damage

[cinder monolith]

From my experience, tanking with other Prot warriors, they tend to turtle a lot more than required

It’s different in hc

People pipe in hc

[jagged pier]

i mean u and 2 ppl im looking at are running nearly the same talent exactly

so no i dont think we do

[crude notch]

what's it like making shit up completely

and shooting it into the abyss

[jagged pier]

lets look at r4 oh samne build as u

but again u did more add damage

[cinder monolith]

Man I’m not attacking anybody

[jagged pier]

your not no

but you literally just generalized everyone

and got the generalization wrong

[cinder monolith]

But I also did more to boss

[crude notch]

Not more to boss than Ze

Catch that L

[jagged pier]

like less than 1 mil in the case i saw

vs 1 - 2mil more add damage

[crude notch]

why do you private logs btw?

[jagged pier]

your ring

did 1 mil more damage

than r3

[cinder monolith]

Had some mad log whore incident before

[jagged pier]

dps is literally rng nowadays

like yu go lucky procs

well done

[cinder monolith]

Forgestorm is awful also to play with

Things all over the place

[ionic fern]

Don't have forgestorm + eranog ring + good Annulet RNG?

Get rekt

[jagged pier]

u have WF as well

not everyone gets it

well i didnt actually check your in WWF group

but its free extra 4k or somthing

[uneven mason]

"I got a good parse for the first time, I'ma go make a generalized statement without any understanding of statistics to call attention to it."

[crude notch]

YEAH GET REKT NERDS

[cinder monolith]

[ionic fern]

Regardless.

Good job.

[cinder monolith]

I’ve tanked for longer than this tier

[ionic fern]

I think?

Or sorry.

I'm not entierly sure what this discussion is about.

[ionic fern]

I'm just tilted because of RNG parsing in general.

[vocal nimbus]

also

[sick sentinel]

wtf happened here? far as i can tell it was ret activates wings and attacks gets aggro dies

[vocal nimbus]

first out of 13

[sick sentinel]

then healer seems to get hit by 2 spells at once

[cinder monolith]

It’s the only boss I’ve tanked this tier so far

[uneven mason]

Good job eggnog ring, you're exactly the tank we need!

[jagged pier]

he said all warriors go turtle build pretty much @ionic fern was the generalized statement

[cinder monolith]

I don’t have eranog ring

[jagged pier]

because he got r1 on echo

[cinder monolith]

I said they generally go more turtle than required

[jagged pier]

but none of the warriors i looked at have

on that fight

[cinder monolith]

To respond to people running spell block on every boss

[ionic fern]

That's not really true. 👀

[uneven mason]

That's where you moved the goalpost after Jakey corrected you

[proper roost]

idk what's happening but I still hope all of u have good vaults

[hazy hazel]

We do? With the state of warriors right now, any actually in mythic raiding are certainly not so off the reservation they're tanking fully in d stance...sounds like some FOTM Season 1 shit right there.

[sick sentinel]

the 2 key moments of this fight, frame the paladin died, and when healer is double targeted with spells

[proper roost]

or worthwhile sockets

you can stun those yogi!

[jagged pier]

i dont tank in dstance at all in mythic

what?

[uneven mason]

VP can be toxic AF during fort

[hazy hazel]

I mean I use it as a cooldown...

[jagged pier]

they always do

[ionic fern]

I swapped to dstance on Experiments.

No bully.

[cinder monolith]

You rarely want to go dstance

[jagged pier]

yer but u did it without AA slows

[blazing condor]

[jagged pier]

cause u dumb

[cinder monolith]

Im using dstance p2 sark towards the end

[sick sentinel]

so, VP fort on 15 + is a high chance of a dead key?

[ionic fern]

No, guild dumb.

[jagged pier]

true

[proper roost]

no u just gotta help kick and cc the wind bolts yogi

as pwar you can solo stop like half of em at least!!

[uneven mason]

If shit isn't kicked/stopped and people don't use defensive when they're getting tsrgetted

Like legitimately boomkin is my favorite DPS in VP during fort because solar just fucks those packs with chain casters

[cinder monolith]

Noticed if you hop into that pack slightly early on your own you can force target the Prince on you to reflect the charge it does

Chunks the thing down majorly

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opADNvgeZYY for now i'll chalk it up to that i simply am incapable of beating airman

[crude notch]

you mean tHIS ?

🙂

[cinder monolith]

Ye

That

Soldier not prince

Mb

[sick sentinel]

at least i have a full week to prepare for next potential fort VP

[cinder monolith]

They cast it early into the pull, so if you’re on your own for 3s or so it’ll target you

[dusty monolith]

i like ur transmog yogi

[proper roost]

where is the group that they are 3s behind

Sheesh

[crude notch]

playhing roblox

[waxen frigate]

Forgestorm rng is so cringe man

[jagged pier]

u also forgot WF and beacon/becaon crits in here

[hazy bronze]

Asking why they weren't invited to other keys or something

[olive bay]

Let's go boys! Used your advice from yesterday and got two more portals last night

[uneven mason]

Finishing the previous pack

I'm All like, SW is back up, time to leap into the next pack

[junior brook]

used it few pulls, felt pretty useless, just go without tbh

[strong forum]

It does nothing on that boss

Only time it does anything is against the knock back, other than that it literally doesn't work

[craggy pilot]

holy shit, your camera is zoomed in to almost First Person view here

no doubt you cant see what happened to anyone

[waxen frigate]

The chad way to play

[craggy pilot]

with the camera like that, im surprised he pans it into the wall to get an EVEN CLOSER LOOK

cursed POV

@sick sentinel do you have a log from the run or? because youre only hovering over the Monks death, not the Paladin...

the monk did stand in the circle that you lept out of, and he got hit by a cast (not 2), and he got hit by Storming.... makes sense he died honestly

oh he also got the DOT on him from the Gust Soldier, which should be dispelled 😄

oh he doesnt even get hit by the swirley, its just Dispel + 1 Cast taking him 100-0

[sick sentinel]

wtf i dunno what going on, but all over my youtube and google im getting "billionaire missing in submarine headed for titanic"

omg, the news is going crazy rn, but about prot warrior stuff, i got somethin cookin

[proper roost]

Hell yeah get it yogi

[waxen frigate]

Ya some British dude

Literally went in a metal shoebox to go “see” the titanic (it didn’t even have windows so???)

Now he’s prob deadge

[cinder storm]

why didnt he rent the movie Titanic, is he stupid?

[waxen frigate]

.

[cinder storm]

its a meme good sir

[crude notch]

one lest billionaire

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[sick sentinel]

the tragic part is

the machine was a one and done

[cinder storm]

Acktuahlly, some or someone will end up getting his assets

a billionaire dies, another is born

[sick sentinel]

its the only machine that can go down that far that isn't military, and its made by one dude

[cinder storm]

such is the cycle of life

[sick sentinel]

so if something happend to him down there GG

gunna be hard time get him back or the craft

[cinder storm]

- Titan, the missing tourist submersible was operated by a video game controller and had parts that were described as “off-the-shelf components.

[modern brook]

Actually who gives a shit

[proper roost]

yogi i think

[crude notch]

AND I CARE WHAT YOGI CARES ABOUT

[proper roost]

[crude notch]

Bullfango more like Bullcringo

[cinder storm]

yeah, tell him jordan

[jagged gust]

The funny thing is, xbox controller have better control capabilities than what the military produces

So this wasn't actually a bad idea

[cinder storm]

TIL

[jagged gust]

Like the rest was obviously, the sub was bolted from the exterior so in the off chance they make it out (They're presumed to be stuck inside the wreckage) they still can't open their pod for air

[waxen frigate]

This was a Logitech generic controller

[crude notch]

LMAO

[waxen frigate]

F710 I think is the model

[jagged gust]

Logitech? You know he's a real gamer

[proper roost]

aren't some military drones controlled via xbox controller

or w/e

[waxen frigate]

Yes

[jagged pier]

lots of things are because they are easy to control and interface with please everything as well

[waxen frigate]

As someone who now works for the military

The military is fucking stupid

[jagged gust]

My works loves recruiting former military

So like at least once or twice a year I'll have some former tech as an apprentice

[waxen frigate]

I’m a contractor for the Air Force rn

Started about a month ago

[crude notch]

contract dn

[jagged gust]

The fucking stories these guys have would drive a normal person batty

[waxen frigate]

Had our weekly meeting this morning

“Ok folks this week, we gotta move some boxes on Thursday. Other than that, try to stay awake and be on time please”

[waxen frigate]

Ok

[twin bramble]

Hulks are crushing me in NL high keys. Anyone know if it’s the fracture or piercing shards doing the bulk of the damage? And any way to make it easier like spell reflecting piercing shards?

[cinder storm]

Yes

[twin bramble]

Thanks! Yes piercing shards is the culprit?

[cinder storm]

Yeah, it chunks

[twin bramble]

Do I use spell reflect for the initial hit or the bleed?

[cinder storm]

From Sense's spreadsheet - Spell block only works on initial hit - will not work on the following DoT, which is the dangerous part

[proper roost]

it's mostly the dot

there's only two "required" hulks in the route (you can technically skip both but no one does, and you should generally skip the very first one in pugs)

so just make sure you have a cd going into it

it can be dicey to pull the hulks back to back for cd timings but you can hug right and pull that pelter and/or geode to slow down the pace slightly for cds

Kinda depends though

after the first hulk if you have 2 cds then you just send it on second hulk

[uneven mason]

It only does 120,000DPS on +20 after an initial hit of 500k 🙄

brutal

[jagged gust]

That's like a whole 3 seconds before you die, no worries

[uneven mason]

right

I mean, you should have SR and DS up for the initial hit

and then slap IV right after

might be a good opportunity for defensive stance to shine

(I Know, ugh so dirty)

[proper roost]

the main key on the hulk pulls is to not be max range when tanking it, so your melee dps can kick the add

otherwise the add scooches too close to the front of the mob and mdps can't kick it without eating the frontal too

Always just want to move back into the center of its hitbox after a fracture

[jagged gust]

SW+LS, victory rush, lock rocks n' pots, who even needs a healer really. Just take those shards to the dome like the champ you are

[uneven mason]

Then when the DPS can't kill it and he does a 2nd one

[remote venture]

Did something happen in this channel that made you change your nick? :D @uneven mason

[jagged gust]

then you DC ragequit and play hearthstone for the rest of the night

[proper roost]

2-3 is pretty common in high enough keys on fort

Just has big hp buff

[uneven mason]

#protection message

[jagged gust]

I love the random Yogi monologue throughout that entire convo

[uneven mason]

It's the dill seasoning that makes Skyhold great.

[remote venture]

[proper roost]

yogi has actually slowed down on the random tangents lately I feel like. he used to blog about random old games more

i guess he's having fun pushing keys kinda pog

[uneven mason]

Right

[rancid ember]

What's that? Doom mods are what's happenin? lol

[crude notch]

brings a tear to my wee lil eye

[uneven mason]

NGL, I've got serious nostalgia for Doom, ya'll gamers nowadays don't know how good you have it, can just click some button and you have a working game.

Back in my day we had to read F**KING manuals and learn about jumper switches, rewrite autoexe.bat files to free up DOS memory and learn which IRQ and DMA channels our SoundBlaster worked on...or just listen to the BLOOP BLEEP of the PC system speaker.

[crude notch]

doesn't hit the same

[uneven mason]

NA up

[jagged gust]

If by that you mean have my older brothers friend do all of that for me then I totally agree

you youngin's these days

[proper roost]

servers have been up for a bit I think

10 more minutes for vault tho

[uneven mason]

Do I open vault as prot this week...hmmmm

[proper roost]

[uneven mason]

just for a shot at Craigshaper

[cinder storm]

I've become what I swore to destroy, a one vault man

[olive bay]

Is it possible to outrange the front in NL?

Or is it always just going to suck ass

[uneven mason]

nope

[waxen vale]

You mean the giant elementals

[olive bay]

yeah - not the first boss

The elementals

I didn't even know you could dodge it on the boss until I did it by accident last week

[waxen vale]

Oh yea if u dont dodge boss u dead lol

[olive bay]

You can't dodge the trash version of it so I didn't think you could the boss's

Typically, that's how it works

So I was eating that shit

[waxen vale]

The trash version you might be avle to los around the ramp corner jf ur fast

Or up top let the fjrst part of the combo knock u down the stairs and maybe that would los the shards

But you'd also los your healer and possibly die

[olive bay]

I mean... If I don't get hit by the frontal nothing could kill me

And if I do I'm dead as fuck

lol

Get knocked off up top - then leap away

be 80+ yards away

[proper roost]

looks like the piercing shard ability on wowhead shows as having 100 yd range

So I mean

Technically yes, definitely no

[unique kelp]

Easy, just have a group of Priests/Evokers. Make yourself a WoW-version of D&D's Peasant Railgun.

[crude notch]

just run 100 yds

ez

[olive bay]

lol

So bolstering is basically a non-affix for us right?

It just gives them more damage, not more health, and we have mitigation to cover most of their increased damage

[craggy pilot]

im torn between M+ and D4 😄 fuckin hell

barbs in D4 doesnt seem to be able to wear shields, whaaat

[cinder storm]

I enjoy D4 more, you get to do stuff right away, m+ requires pugging, waiting, hoping things go smooth, hoping people press their buttons

[proper roost]

@strong forum you were right for this week

prediction game strong

[craggy pilot]

true

[proper roost]

and I guess should be 100% right for next tyr week as well so the only unknowns now are the two fort weeks (kinda)

[craggy pilot]

cant settle on what class i wanna play tho xD

[crude notch]

why nome

ghash predicted

smdh

[proper roost]

Oh dang

[crude notch]

giving nome ghash's credit

[proper roost]

Stolen valor

[cinder storm]

play whatever you want, don't read builds until you finish your campaign, play it the way you enjoy it

[balmy pawn]

Re: weapon enchants ... Does it come down to Sophic for M+, Shadowflame for ST?

[waxen vale]

fuck

[nocturne spindle]

oof

what a choice

[daring marlin]

M+ this season is legit sitting around for healers

[nocturne spindle]

forge probably better doubt youll ever see it again

[daring marlin]

It's garbage

[waxen vale]

yea beacon is annoying af

and forge is unfarmable

currently havea 441 wep too

[toxic pewter]

Grats on the forgestorm

[waxen vale]

i guess i have to take it ?

[toxic pewter]

Can get a beacon real quick just kill sark

[cinder storm]

yeah, healers are struggling and its not their fault

[strong forum]

Hm?

[proper roost]

you were not the person who predicted it was ghash

[strong forum]

Predicted what, vault loot?

[proper roost]

no the affix rotation for the last 4 weeks

[strong forum]

Ah

[proper roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/1120544567821860934/image.png

if true, sanguini fort next week is going to be pain

[toxic pewter]

I predicted it would be tyrannical this week

[nocturne spindle]

volcanic spiteful though

ezpz week

[waxen vale]

best enchant for Forgestorm?

[jagged pier]

[waxen vale]

does frozen devotion slow

[crude notch]

sanguini fort is better because when you full heal the boss to 100% hp it's still not as bad as doing it on tyran.

[waxen vale]

the fire with the ice is kind of a cool mem

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[proper roost]

true

when it was sanguine tyr the other week I had harlan heal like 20%+

[crude notch]

healing trash just ups your parse, right?

[proper roost]

because the tank pulled the previous trash into him

and then harlan stood still casting in the enforcer pool for a bit

it was gr8

[crude notch]

love it

[proper roost]

actually I wonder now if harlan keeps his buffs if he gets healed up

[cerulean tusk]

Fair question

I would presume so

[crude notch]

the answer is yes

don't ask how i know

[cerulean tusk]

[waxen vale]

im really about to spend 3000 gold on R3 enchant more for 20 more DPS

[crude notch]

do it bish you won't

[chilly pulsar]

What's the go-to spec loot to try for the Forgestorm?

[toxic pewter]

? 3k gold isn’t that much

[sick sentinel]

YOGI PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS: 3 paladin 14 lair on fort https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8I7QVw3d_U

[crude notch]

yogi

what's your vault

[sick sentinel]

im using drums to lust cuz 3 pally

[left basalt]

3000 gold is like .05 cents🤔

[crude notch]

asmongold is raging for you comparing it this way

[sick sentinel]

open as fury i guess yeah? haven't got to vault yet

[left basalt]

🤷‍♂️

[chilly pulsar]

Prot hajs shields whilst Fury has 2 handers

And I think there are more 2 handers than shields

[crude notch]

fury has better trinkets

[sick sentinel]

that video should be HD very soon, at least thats what it said on the uploader

[chilly pulsar]

Yeah I'm looking forward for the Landslide trinket

[toxic pewter]

That’s a good song

[proper roost]

Hell yes hell yes yogi vod

[opaque hearth]

do you find the OCE better than the grapple or anvil?

[proper roost]

Watching this during lunch for sure

[sick sentinel]

say no more, thats the only item i needed to see

[balmy pawn]

Everybody gets a Forgestorm but me.

[crude notch]

grats yogi

your hardwork and dedication pays off

[left basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-nodding-nod-yes-yup-gif-13973219

[daring marlin]

I did a single key an hour ago

surely I'll get a sick weapon

[crude notch]

i belieb

[cerulean tusk]

Gz Yogi

[daring marlin]

bamboozled

game sux, I'm going for a walk!

[crude notch]

ye go touch some grass loser

[proper roost]

nice i did one 20 on my warrior for the week and raidlogged

it owned

this week is probably hard dodge any keys week because fuck tyr

[jagged gust]

I hope he doesn't lose any more hair over it

[toxic pewter]

Is everyone basically down to doing one key lmao

I am too

[pastel sleet]

aight socket for a 447 tier helm that i wont be replacing OR a 441 sidegrade 1h (not forgestorm) that will be upgradeable to 447 in 10.1.5?

[jagged pier]

[crude notch]

that's the dumbest response ever

[proper roost]

ok rude

anyway dont forget u can craft also

without any other info sounds like a socket angle

[crude notch]

i'd go socket or splinter ye

[twin bramble]

Thanks so much for the intel!

[long chasm]

Is there a way to skip the Aberus campaign on an alt? Want to gear my resto druid but I really don’t wanna slog through that again

[modern brook]

Just don't do it :^)

[lusty grotto]

two fucking 2handers

why do i even do this

[toxic pewter]

still pissed i upgraded over my ashkandi 2h heroic mog

those paladins i won it over must be laughing at me

[lusty grotto]

look at this shit

every week 0 trinkets

[delicate forum]

any thoughts? I'm wondering if I should take the 447 ring for 10.1.5 to substitute onyx annulet, but the 2h-weapon and 447 vial looks really tempting as well lol

[strong forum]

do you not need essence?

cuz thats better than vial

the ring is alright aswell, but picking a ring from vault is kinda yucky

getting a 441 ring + socket/leech is infinitely better than a 447

[crude notch]

also, grab the ashkandur if you dps like ever.

[strong forum]

also good for tmog

[crude notch]

that too

[lusty grotto]

im probably grabbing the dumb ashkandur

[strong forum]

oh right nim

[toxic pewter]

got 6 tokens from vault, apparently can buy a spintered shadowflame thing.. but still socket is better right

[strong forum]

its between askhandur for mog, shoulders for ilvl, weapon for m+

[lusty grotto]

yeah im not gonna sweat it over 1 hander cause crafted

[strong forum]

ah

yeah then tmog or shoulders

[lusty grotto]

yeah :\

[strong forum]

(i personally would pick mog)

[lusty grotto]

leaning towards that

[proper roost]

heroic ilvl ashkandur is a low tier vault pick unless u only pug imo, theyre not that rare from raid

[crude notch]

it's long term versus short term situation ye

[toxic pewter]

yeah I just did a socket.. splinter would of been cool though get a new item a week sooner

[gloomy hazel]

Would y'all take gloves for the extra stam/stats or trinket?

[sick sentinel]

that trinket is gross

[lusty grotto]

gloves honestly but shrug

[craggy pilot]

the trinket is pretty much simbait compared to your Anvil/Grapnel

[crude spruce]

is there a point for DR with haste?

30%, 35?

[lusty grotto]

no

[jagged pier]

7100 rating

[crude spruce]

cool

[jagged pier]

is when u stop

[lusty grotto]

^

[gloomy hazel]

I kind of thought so, seems like it wouldn't be better in raid or on tyrannical weeks for sure.

[crude spruce]

okay so there is one it's just very high

[vale escarp]

DR Starts at 30% (without buffs and talents) as far as I remember, but we dont care about haste DR

[worn vine]

yall got any tips for how to handle the damage on forgotten experiments?

i feel like im gettin clapped on that fight

[jagged pier]

yer AA slows

swap to d stance if u have too

[worn vine]

im riding d stand+defensive trinket and still having surv issues

[jagged pier]

then your or ither playing incorrectly or dont have AA slows or both

[worn vine]

prob AA slows tbh and im tanking chadion the entire time

[craggy pilot]

what difficulty?

[worn vine]

mythic

[craggy pilot]

ah then i have no clue 😄

[jagged pier]

so am i, i tank thadion the whole time and im fine

[gloomy hazel]

not having attack speed slows is the difference between clearing at 10 stacks and clearing at 4 stacks.

[worn vine]

do you have a hpal in your healing comp jakey

[worn vine]

thank you

[jagged pier]

no that he touches me much

[lusty grotto]

just parry

TM

[worn vine]

we got the double hpriest pvoker and rdruid

[crude notch]

ok?

what's the relevance there?

do you have a log?

[jagged pier]

pretty good healer team that

2 GS

1 bark

[crude notch]

If you're dying through 4 Externals, omegalul

[jagged pier]

time die doesnt do much on that fight as its continuous damage anyway

[worn vine]

honestly i think the aa slow is what im missing