@ role is acceptable
#protection
crude notch
@modern gazelle
warm plinth
There's a mentions tab
crude notch
There I at'd you
craggy pilot
https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=16647/dragonflight-keystone-explorer-season-one
"obtained by 34% of profiles" kekw
lusty grotto
not surprising at all
perception in class discords is always skewed
everyone assumes that the min key level for everyone in the discord is 20
when its so far from the truth
modern gazelle
mute server+these settings and its guuci
you can uncheck the suppress @role if you want those to show
lusty grotto
i just posted that above
modern gazelle
There I at'd you
thank you for @ing me really needed to feel wanted right now
lusty grotto
but no, i need role mentions
crude notch
https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=16647/dragonflight-keystone-explorer-season-...
This requires a major step that automatically will make this number inflated.
- connecting your Blizzard account to wowhead.
Yes, insert key level that you find easy heres are easy but most people just don't give a shit.
Imagine not
jagged gust
personally i prog on 2 seperate account simultaneously
jagged gust
I am a filthy casual tho, as one of them is a hunter
crude notch
Same radio, I'm secretly already 10/10 M for 10.2
Oops just spoiled there's 10 bosses
jagged gust
10.2 is so passe amirite?
crude notch
There goes my NDA
craggy pilot
what week are we at now? i got my AOTC just 2 days ago xD
jagged gust
I still remember the NDA's for WotLK like it was yesterday
craggy pilot
6th raid week ah ok
thought we were on 10 or so
for some reason im as burnt out as i usually am at week10
crude notch
Unironically I think DF will work reverse of what we're used to. Instead of progressively getting better, it's gonna progressively get worse.
lusty grotto
lol
crude notch
Yes we're halfway through the 6th week
craggy pilot
Unironically I think DF will work reverse of what we're used to. Instead of prog...
idk i feel like its getting better, but it just feels uninteresting to me for some reason
lusty grotto
ngl im a little burned out, but its also due to playing 2 mmos
jagged gust
I tend to get burnt out pretty quick on wow in general, I go balls deep for like a month, get fully geared then put it down for another year
craggy pilot
theres something weird in this seasons dungeon pool, and i cant put my finger on what it is
lusty grotto
and honestly i cant pick 1 or the other to quit, i like both
chilly brook
ngl im a little burned out, but its also due to playing 2 mmos
What MMOs
craggy pilot
i think what killed M+ for me this season is the amount of healers just plummeting
craggy pilot
like every key you wanna do, is 20+min wait for healer
chilly brook
Healer drought is real
lusty grotto
i think what killed M+ for me this season is the amount of healers just plummeti...
yeah its been very noticeable, and youre EU, its bad in NA
or worse, i would say
chilly brook
All I’m sayin is my dragon boi services as a dps or in .5 simpvoker are available
craggy pilot
but idk also want the dungeons on my warrior
lusty grotto
like i cant even commit my paladin to healing again, its just not fun
chilly brook
As long as you don’t raid tue/wed anyways
craggy pilot
like i cant even commit my paladin to healing again, its just not fun
holy shit man, i tried holy pala once
that shit is wack
crude notch
Yeah I've started vibing in mw. This spec is sick.
lusty grotto
i fell in love with hpal in BFA
crude notch
Can heal anything.
lusty grotto
was strictly holy until... this expansion
chilly brook
like i cant even commit my paladin to healing again, its just not fun
I like preservation evoker but man I feel so stressed while playing heals because I’m bad at it
chilly brook
Hence why I don’t really do it much
crude notch
Ah that's when you gotta vibe and turn it off.
craggy pilot
I like preservation evoker but man I feel so stressed while playing heals becaus...
haha yea i feel this as well
lusty grotto
i dont think i could play prevoker, the range shit alone is a huge turn off
crude notch
Healing you just follow along and pray people aren't stupid (they are).
craggy pilot
its like everyone dies and i still have Spirit Link rdy and im like "maybe i should have used this earlier"
chilly brook
i dont think i could play prevoker, the range shit alone is a huge turn off
You might be surprised
craggy pilot
Healing you just follow along and pray people aren't stupid (they are).
they always are
and then i cry
and delete my healer
chilly brook
Really the “hard” thing about it is just actually being smart about your echo heals and using them well
lusty grotto
its the same shit that turns me off from shaman, just look at this dumbass hunter all the way in africa
craggy pilot
and the healer problem got even bigger xD
crude notch
I'm never surprised by the Boomkin standing 45 yards away from mobs.
chilly brook
its the same shit that turns me off from shaman, just look at this dumbass hunte...
See that’s actually not a big problem
craggy pilot
its the same shit that turns me off from shaman, just look at this dumbass hunte...
you send a Chain Heal on him, thinking it will bounce, and it just goes "nope"
chilly brook
I literally use my rescue to forcefully reposition huntards
crude notch
Just because you have the longest range in the game doesn't mean you should use it bud.
chilly brook
craggy pilot
I literally use my rescue to forcefully reposition huntards
xD
"fuck you and your max range, stand here plz"
chilly brook
Quite literally I say “fuck you get in my heal”
lusty grotto
just looking at this alone on my alts is making me go like ughhhhhhhhhh
chilly brook
Hunters are the worst offenders
craggy pilot
just looking at this alone on my alts is making me go like ughhhhhhhhhh
i skipped Wyrm farm entirely
just went for Aspect farm
with 425-430 ilvl
chilly brook
Like bruh I need you to be in my breath if you wanna love
craggy pilot
Imagine not having 5 toons at 440+
i dont even have 1 i think
maybe 440 in bag
but not equip
chilly brook
It’s the weirdest thing the healer drought though
Like I don’t think it’s that crazy in terms of damage intake
But who knows maybe I’m just wrong
lusty grotto
healers have way too much responsability right now imo
chilly brook
Maybe most healers are truly like me and just get stressed out despite having played the role for years and not being a starter like me
craggy pilot
Like I don’t think it’s that crazy in terms of damage intake
did they buff dmg by 25% and everyones hp by 25%?
but not buff healing
hazy bronze
Yeah keys with a good v. Bad healer are noticeable
chilly brook
did they buff dmg by 25% and everyones hp by 25%?
Yea
craggy pilot
so basically healers got 25% more to do 😄
crude notch
That was the point of the buff
chilly brook
so basically healers got 25% more to do 😄
They complain about not having anything to do
lusty grotto
yeah that was the double down on blizzard's part
and it was due to off spec healing too
actually i would say that off spec healing was the entire point
craggy pilot
but yea its big difference between being in a +14 with people standing in everything, and a +18 with people dodging everything
jagged gust
off spec healing is the real silly shit
lusty grotto
instead of just fucking nerfing off spec healing to the ground in keys
crude notch
And they're nerfing off spec healing in .5
chilly brook
I don’t think it’s that bad for healers
lusty grotto
they did that shit
craggy pilot
We got dungeons being done with no healers
uhhh we still have that
lusty grotto
yup
chilly brook
uhhh we still have that
I’m aware
I’m saying it can’t be that bad for healers
If this is happening
craggy pilot
nah true
the thing is healers pick up other peoples mistakes xD
cus in <18 where shit dont oneshot
and you stand in it
you go to like 10% hp, and healer has to bring you up
Skitters on 1st boss NL can be an example there
crude notch
Well, who needs healers when PPal can do 135k HPS on Khajin
craggy pilot
on low keys Skitters is just a "tunnel boss, and let healer handle it"
also just feels weird theres some bosses where you literally ZZZZZZ as healer, and some where you have to fucking PUMP PERM
the difference is wild
idk when i play Heal compared to Tank, i just have a hard time staying locked in
cus its just zzz in periods
crude notch
Ironically the higher you go the less you need to heal. Because eventually that dumb rogue that apparently has no spacebar on Asaad just dies.
craggy pilot
Ironically the higher you go the less you need to heal. Because eventually that ...
yea cus shit starts to oneshot if you fuck it up xD
crude notch
Yes Nielsen that's exactly what I said
craggy pilot
its exactly what i said 3 messages ago 🙂
craggy pilot
cus in <18 where shit dont oneshot
^
crude notch
Difference being I didn't respond to your 80 lines of text
craggy pilot
oh well another day of staring at my toon in Valdrakken while doing no content, maybe tomorrow ill bite the bullet and buy Diablo 4
crude notch
Ain't no one gonna read when you're typing like that not letting people get a word in otherwise.
crude notch
Gamer
craggy pilot
Is this better? Or still more SS and less Revenge?
looking way better
jagged gust
thats like a 30% increase in SS CPM if im recalling correctly
icy atlas
Yeah lol
I now understand what ppl mean when they say you don't have to worry about IP
I had to press it constantly to stop from overcapping
so much more rage gen
craggy pilot
I now understand what ppl mean when they say you don't have to worry about IP
was your overall dam the same or higher now?
jagged gust
Then there's a certain point where you realize that shit is never gonna fall off unless you fucked up very very hard
icy atlas
was your overall dam the same or higher now?
It was like a 10% boost from what I usually do. On warcraftlogs I parsed a 97% for that key level
craggy pilot
It was like a 10% boost from what I usually do. On warcraftlogs I parsed a 97% f...
log parse for keys does not take DPS into account i believe
just compares your completion time and the key level to other people
icy atlas
Well regardless it was a very noticeable boost
warm plinth
Depends what parse you're looking at
icy atlas
Actually it was 20%, I usually do 55, did 68 that dungeon
warm plinth
The parse in the key log itself is comparing you to other prot wars for that key level.
icy atlas
craggy pilot
nice, youre beating the dps xD
daring marlin
oh well another day of staring at my toon in Valdrakken while doing no content, ...
D4 owns
craggy pilot
D4 owns
i kinda decided i want all 8 dungeon portals before i buy it
and just need 4
but was just on zzz mode today idk why
fresh igloo
craggy pilot
i have a few guildies i play keys with
but when pushing higher than 18 with them it just gets difficult
way easier to push my rating with pugs
sick sentinel
i think pug is the ideal scenario
craggy pilot
idk i think premade is ideal in some setups, but it just requires a lot to make sure everyone is on the same level and vibe
odd tree
but when pushing higher than 18 with them it just gets difficult
I feel this. Found out one of the dudes that raids with us doesn't use nameplates. Yea, your not coming to keys over 15 bud. No wonder your interrupts are so low.
graceful kite
I feel this. Found out one of the dudes that raids with us doesn't use nameplate...
lol what
odd tree
Yup, "clutters his screen"
graceful kite
i think new evoker spec is going to ruin wow for me and i should just quit the game
sick sentinel
i haven't been interrupting looks like
could be wide variety of reasons pummel doesn't connect and count as interrupt
graceful kite
tanks are usually topping interrupts
odd tree
i think new evoker spec is going to ruin wow for me and i should just quit the ...
How so?
sick sentinel
i think alot of my interrupts come in the form of stuns, rather than spell lock out
odd tree
I think it will take alot of balancing, and might be reworked to just another caster spec if it doesn't pan out
graceful kite
cuz u will need a pocket evoker to do competitive damage
and you cant do good logs without it
odd tree
Warcraftlogs will implement a filter I imagine
toxic pewter
im excited for the new support spec, I think it is cool
graceful kite
I cant play my favorite spec because i dont have a pocket priest and now they're rolling out a new one
toxic pewter
lol wat
toxic pewter
What do other players have to do with what you are finding most fun
graceful kite
I dont want to be bottom dps because I didnt get a "fun" proximity 15% main stat buff
toxic pewter
I think it will be great
graceful kite
In other words, that extra dps will actually log as the evokers
how if theyre litrally buffing your stats
odd tree
Fairly certain there was a blue post on it. They're adding additional combat logging options. Is it stats, or % dmg?
graceful kite
do you think details will calculate 14% vers 15% main stat 3% crit etc?
warm plinth
It's stats; idk how they'd add your damage to them...
sick sentinel
odd tree
Nvm, stats won't work
odd tree
No shout?
sick sentinel
no, curse-ed button
graceful kite
i dont use shout too
but im just too lazy to swap when only doing weeklies
tho bounding stride is pretty nice to have
sick sentinel
priests already got physhic terror or whatever, locks have a group fear, i know,
odd tree
It is honestly the worst CC we have
sick sentinel
if they would cower in fear more, it would be better
fleeing in terror is the worst mechanic ever, so many wipes to it in 2004 wow
graceful kite
isnt there a glyph for them to stand still
odd tree
Which one?
Bummed that augment evoker will target certain stats. Like PI all over again.
Won't quit over it, but that's kinda shitty
graceful kite
Which one?
foul menagerie
odd tree
Oh, wasn't that a bug?
urban portal
Bummed that augment evoker will target certain stats. Like PI all over again.
are they? dont they give tiny amounts of crit chance
and also giving vers (which is whatever)
sick sentinel
i dunno what dungeon that is for, but if thats X% crit + 15% crit thats a whole lot of parry for us, maybe, if its 15% flat no beuno
jagged gust
fleeing in terror is the worst mechanic ever, so many wipes to it in 2004 wow
LEEEEROOOYYYYYY
urban portal
They also give primary stat
Well primary stat treats almost all specs equally
So that’s whatever
cinder nova
Am I high?
Weightstones and Sharpening Stones are our BIS weapon consumeable right
or is it howling runes
toxic pewter
Howling rune all day
cinder nova
I'm kinda pressed to imagine 115 AP is gonna be worth less than a haste proc
I guess I'll have to sim later..
toxic pewter
It’s not a proc though, it’s a flat haste stat buff
cinder nova
toxic pewter
I forget the exact amount though
cinder nova
Wait what
silk kiln
310
toxic pewter
twin bramble
is there a piece for us to craft to 447 for every slot including rings/trinkets/back/neck etc?
hazy bronze
Yes but I don't believe the trinkets are very good
cinder nova
Also there's better shit than crafted gear in tons of slots.
I guess if you were desperate you can just buy your way into 447 full set with WoW tokens, but that's cringe af
sand hound
does our 4pc change how we use our Last Stand? is it worth using offensively now?
cinder nova
Yes.
Send it on CD.
We also change talents around it.
In fact, we change at 2p.
We pick up Bolster and UF for ST
Drop UF for M+
sand hound
sweet ty
cinder nova
And... by UF I mean Unnerving Focus
The one near the top of the right tree that looks like a glaring eyeball
thin phoenix
anyone know if spell block avoids the dot on rashok tank combo?
toxic pewter
Is there a dot
cinder nova
Yeah, but it's really not something to give a shit about.
Blocking it doesn't stop it.
The slap is your real concern.
toxic pewter
What dot though
thin phoenix
the tank debuff i mean
toxic pewter
Is it on mythic
cinder nova
It's a very short-form fire dot on Flaming Slash.
toxic pewter
No dot in heroic
cinder nova
Oh wait lol it's just the 3000% debuff
No, it doesn't stop the debuff on any difficulty.
Splock just lets you block the damage as opposed to eating it with your face.
thin phoenix
hmm guess it wouldn't matter though cause you'll block the whole combo right
cinder nova
Um... no? You'll die.
Only one we can take two in a row is Crush, but I woudln't recommend it.
cinder nova
Block works on crush iirc.
But I don't think I've survived two crushes without wall or crit block.
thin phoenix
hmm the spreadsheet says yes to both
cinder nova
You should read the color coding.
One yes is for Splock the other is for normal block.
thin phoenix
ohh missed that
cinder nova
That's why there's multiple columns.
Some mechanics can...
- Be blocked as normal
- Only be blocked with Spell Block
- Be reflected for damage
- Be deflected to avoid damage
- Avoid certain mechanics
And then reading the notes line for each mechanic if there are any may be relevant.
Honestly Rashok doesn't really do damage outside of his combo in regards to tanks.
As long as you have SR or Wall you'll be fine.
thin phoenix
hah it's kinda funny to see us take like no dmg to the combo in heroic
cinder nova
If you're worried you can just Def Stance for combo with SR and continue cranking, then swap back to Battle.
thin phoenix
while the dh 9/9 tank i'm with takes 80% of his hp
cinder nova
Flaming Slash can one-tap you if you aren't careful and aren't totally geared.
I wouldn't recommend taking it raw.
On M it'll absolutely clap you.
thin phoenix
yeah i just spell reflect and IP with shield block up
cinder nova
ShB doesn't really matter to Slash.
It matters for Crush, but Crush was never a danger since it's phys and we have a fuckload of armor and base mit to eat it.
I mean - obviously have block up, but it's not keeping you alive for Slash.
That's why you hit SR.
thin phoenix
yeah true
jagged gust
If I put a shadowed belt clasp on then recraft the belt, will it retain the enchant? Im looking to swap my shadowflame to the belt slot
proper roost
yes
jagged gust
fantastic thanks
crude notch
You're welcome
jagged gust
❤️ jordan
crude notch
I need a chiropractor to snap me in half, anyone else?
chilly brook
I need a chiropractor to snap me in half, anyone else?
jagged gust
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/661935971394125846/1005924754282270862/...
damn that is the spitting image of my PT
crude notch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/661935971394125846/1005924754282270862/...
Not what I necessarily had in mind originally but I won't refuse.
chilly brook
Damn lucky to have LBP as your PT
crude notch
warm plinth
Apparently that's harder than it looks
chilly brook
Apparently that's harder than it looks
modern gazelle
The fuck did I just come into
jagged gust
The fuck did I just come into
this too is a double entendre
waxen vale
so whats up with this stupid dam vengeance is doing
toxic pewter
Just your normal tank tuning imbalance nothing to see here
waxen vale
why is FH so hard for me
i would have thought prot warr would be good at fH
but i feel like i fkng suck at it
i think it's my lowest key. I also notice the top warrior parses are super low for FH
is it considered a hard one for us
toxic pewter
Prot warr is best fh tank
waxen vale
well it is a tank heavy dungeon isnt it
burden wise
i mean this week pack 1 can be diceey
toxic pewter
I mean it’s a mob heavy dungeon and yeah fortified can be tough sometimes
waxen vale
it just seems like randomly every pack can be a trouble
im not specificlaly hung up anywhere
toxic pewter
Yah just gotta get more comfortable in there learn what each pack does
waxen vale
oddly I played it in BFa
and i swear it was a lot easier
now theres just so much. that seems to really truck
also the player base limited knowkedge of it is not helping
jagged gust
Honestly its probably just fortified thats kicking your ass
But yeah pretty much every group you pull has at least one mob that does massive damage so you kind of always feel on your toes dodging the cones
crude notch
If you struggling on warrior in FH. Something is a miss.
Freehold was literally designed for PWar.
jagged gust
FH makes me feel nervous, its too open. I have dwarven sensibilities
I rather prefer to fight in tunnels
uneven mason
It has a few things that hurt if you stand in them, the real danger is the shooty dudes in the first area all targeting the same character at once and giving you some rng corpses
modern gazelle
i LOVE FH
could do that dungeon in my sleep, loved it in BFA and still love it now
are you CC'ing the mobs that need to be CC'd?
for me the only time i have trouble is when people butt pull 50 packs or the last group of mobs after the bridge is hit or miss in pugs
true portal
freehold's now my favourite one to tank as a warrior it's the BEST, though it deffo took me a bit of practice- the first week of fortified/bolstering annihilated me
halls of infusion however
i will never time that beast
proper roost
anyone want to tank TW?
yeah sure I got you
proper roost
it's ok I got a 415 weapon 😔
graceful kite
it just seems like randomly every pack can be a trouble
Not for a tank, tank I think only gets hurt from oiled blade boys in the end
All danger before that is frost bolts+blasts blind rage and enforcer aoe
Other than that trash just melee's you which you have a perfect tool for
ember tangle
if you pull a big boy with a harpooner it's important to stun the harpooner when he does the aoe
same if you pull a pack into the second boss
stun the harpooner when the big boy/boss does aoe
and it can be good to kick painful motivation in the last pack so the enforcer doesn't oneshot the group with shout
and reflect oiled blade
lyric compass
can you still block whilst channeling beacon?
i feel i just get decimated every time i use it in m+
crude notch
no you cannot
vocal nimbus
cc or pop a deffensive beforehand
agile pumice
Ez aggro
crude notch
and then just charge after
yes
daring marlin
can you use it at range before starting a pack?
best snap threat tbh
sick sentinel
freehold is the easiest and best dungeon of all times
for a wide variety of reasons
craggy pilot
https://mplus.subcreation.net/
how many people agree with this Dungeon Ease Tier List? it seems kinda odd to me 🤔
feel like Uldaman is by far the worst one... the bosses are hard, the trash is insanely hard as well
but the tier list might be based on 24-25 ?
daring marlin
warm girder
but the tier list might be based on 24-25 ?
Actually says in the subheading. 21-27s - so kinda top keys and specific to this weeks affixes which might change things from week to week.
craggy pilot
Actually says in the subheading. 21-27s - so kinda top keys and specific to this...
yea but still on 21 it shouldnt be much much different from the 18-21 that im doing
but i guess it changes a bit after doing 24 and higher
but idk maybe just Uldaman is way easier if you build the grp for it
warm girder
18 is absolutely not comparable to 21+.
I feel 22s is already a completely different story than 20s. Stuff you kinda get away with in 20s just insta brick your keys if you don't pay attention.
craggy pilot
yea the curve is likely steep from 22+, but 21 seems very much the same as a 20
and i guess its just in VP theres not a lot of decisions on where to double pull etc without having an insanely hard time
warm girder
Also, remember this is a tier list for keys for all classes. Not specific to you as a prot warrior.
Your personal tier list can (and probably will) most likely be different.
ULD is potentially unpleasant for pwar b/c reasons - while VP can be very tough on healer and DPS and more likely to be bricked.
craggy pilot
yea
just feels like VP is a very ZZZ dungeon with just a W route, and changes if you wanna push higher are likely not easy
i dont even know what you would change in VP routing for a better high push, like theres not rly any good stealth spots is there?
latent jungle
can only really skip the 2nd storm dragon in vp and pick up everything else, dragon just takes ages to kill faster to sneak past it and pull both packs of assasins either side of the first storm dragon but youll be 2% over count doing it but overall when we have done it works slightly faster than sat killing the dragon
twin bramble
Easiest to hardest this week out of NL, ulda, hoi? +17-20 range.
broken kite
Nl>uld>hoi
twin bramble
Oh cool some1 just charged article. Thanks!
twin bramble
Nl>uld>hoi
Nl easiest, right?
broken kite
Imo yeah
twin bramble
Agreed. Was curious if anyone else is struggling to time ulda lol
What’s the best way to pull the gnashers in the water in NL?
sick sentinel
lair has a ton of dmg in it
dps will die alot on 15-20 fort keys
cave ins, geode, grub, green rock dudes, scorpions, tons of crap to kill ppl in there
so many ppl die to cave ins
young moat
I would also die if I got a falling rock on my head
waxen vale
just did a 20 VP and felt majorly squishy with R druid
usually issues were on pull
like they couldnt respond to incoming dam on time, and I was trying really hard to make sure I had at least 1 defensive up going into a pull
but their numbers were high
idk
on some pulls both of us were healing 75K HPS lol
who would have though this from prot warr
are their certain healers we tend to do better or worse with
lusty tiger
Rdruid should be sending iron bark on pull/while you’re grouping
cerulean tusk
These ones
Either jump in and HT+taunt the far ones, leap back. Or just tell the ranged to fish 
lusty tiger
What else is he gonna use it on for fort week anyway
If you’re properly lifebloomed and ironbarked while pulling there should be 0 issues
waxen vale
i dont think he was ever ironbarking me
waxen vale
lmc
waxen vale
ok imn thinking of barksin which is their own personal right
cerulean tusk
They got both
lusty tiger
That looks more or less correct
cerulean tusk
Show auras
cerulean tusk
Like really bad 
waxen vale
yea same from the first area
where we were really wiping
only 1 cast
but it lasts 12 seconds there
lusty tiger
And there’s some strafing walking/jumping you can do to avoid back hits while pulling
waxen vale
ig maybe I died 4 seconds in on the first one i showed
or somethjing
and he said to me "ypu need to use your defensives better tank
and i was pretty embarasssed cuz hes probably partially right
lusty tiger
There’s a lot of nuance pwar can use
waxen vale
and also I don't have these issues normally haha
lusty tiger
Dstance weaving/ ravager throwing mid charge/ good LS/iv usage
waxen vale
grouping the first area is def sketchy to me
lusty tiger
Also health pots
waxen vale
yea
on CD with thos this week haha
when i posted logs last week someone criticzed my overlap of last stand wih other stuff
saying I was overkilling my defensive CDs, but I have been pressing last stand on CD Basically as an offensive thing isn that what we should do with 4 set
real kelp
Ahoy.
Is Freehold generally I a DMG heavy dungeon on Addweek or am I just bad? Attempted a 21 today and got hardgimped a few times. Especially the second to last pack right after the bridge to last boss. Anybody have any pointers for me maybe? Thx
lusty tiger
That packs fucks
With pugs it is easily a lust angle
Ideally a death log would help decipher the exact issues you were having
real kelp
Sadly can't provide that I wasn't really expecting that hard of fisting 😂
lusty tiger
Log every run is my advice
real kelp
Yeah good shout
waxen vale
i think with that post bridge pack its generally worth jst killing the 2 on the bridge first
then sending everything with the pat and the side pack
sick sentinel
anyone on NA had trouble connecting to wow
seems to be my internet in general, but i figured id ask
waxen vale
not today
real kelp
i think with that post bridge pack its generally worth jst killing the 2 on the ...
I'll give that a shot next time. It's really finicky anyway I guess. Not much space and the pat really adds to the pain I feel
waxen vale
also there are a lot of weird LOS issues in that area
lusty tiger
I'll give that a shot next time. It's really finicky anyway I guess. Not much sp...
You fight him by the wood docks that overhang the path you walk to get to that boss zone- tucked all the way in the back by the gold piles
waxen vale
for healer
twin bramble
Either jump in and HT+taunt the far ones, leap back. Or just tell the ranged to ...
Thanks!
royal obsidian
auras on details show buffs recieved by the player so that means he casted ironnbark on himself once
if you want to see how many times in total check cooldowns tab or if thats not tracking it you need to go thorugh auras on all palyer
keen stirrup
Shadowed Impact Buckler = really bad?
i want the first craft bonus but if its awful ill just use an old spark on a dumpster alt xd
real kelp
You fight him by the wood docks that overhang the path you walk to get to that b...
Thx I'll look into that. Much appreciated
sick sentinel
Shadowed Impact Buckler = really bad?
ill old spark craft it for the transmog
sick sentinel
the stats on it are ass for us and im not sure if the effect is worth it
hardy snow
looks like maybe 1 cast in that 10 minutes?
thats buffs on him, he used it once on himself, it doesnt mean he didn't use it on other people, you would have to check buffs uptime on other ppl in group, but its easier to just check in logs in casts tab 🙂
sick sentinel
one thing i will say about "easiest dungeon" discussion
is that its partly baseds on the loot thats in there too
you put shiny object in there, it means more people are gunna farm it on repeat en masse to get shiny item, and meta appears and it's now "easy" cuz everyone knows how you do the farm
waxen vale
thats buffs on him, he used it once on himself, it doesnt mean he didn't use it ...
are u sure about that? i cant find it at all in buff uptimes. I did look at "cooldowns" and see him using it 6 times all dungeon
hardy snow
are u sure about that? i cant find it at all in buff uptimes. I did look at "coo...
"auras" tab you showed previously is for checking buffs uptime on specific character, 1 there was just showing that he used it once on himself, the one that you check now is i guess indeed CDs uses so looks like he used it 6 times, which of one was on himself according to auras tab you showed on previous screenshot
waxen vale
Ok moral of the story then is i dont have to be scared of VP ig then haha
sick sentinel
with cheat gear im 437 now, need to wait till next catalyst for chest which is 4/4
wheat glacier
Are planning on crafting anything to 447?
sick sentinel
i have to do 16s to do that and to get my uh.... 4 hero pieces to 441
so i got 4 heros to do once with aspect, and then, 4 crafteds from 437 to 447
thats 25 timed 16's for me
viral elk
20 neltharus, overtime. anyone who wants to fuck my shit up, let me have it. never really had anyone else look at my logs, so I probably do a lot of silly shit without realizing.
echo egret
I remember seeing a good video during Shadowlands, explaining what to look for in a log to check one's own performance, made by @strong forum iirc ? Is it still availble and up-to-date ?
warm girder
i don't thingk you want to take spell block
I don't think @craggy pilot meant they chunk him but his group.
You need stuns, AOE stops etc. And then blast. If you don't have, consider going left. There's no 3 balls pull in there.
radiant dawn
what to do vs the 3x Apparatus in Halls 🤔
I've started just going left lol. They constantly all blast a single target and there's no outhealing that so I don't bother
fair elm
how much of a scrub am I if I use this macro?
#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cast Shield Block
/cast Shield Slam
ah ye left is good call tbh
but no death skip
i do early stuns on the cast right? cus its channel dmg not insta dmg?
but idk, this run we did mark one and insta kill that one
helped a lot
solar rivet
how much of a scrub am I if I use this macro?
```
#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cas...
guilty
craggy pilot
how much of a scrub am I if I use this macro?
```
#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cas...
thats kind of scrubby behaviour
waxen vale
Unfortunately the apparati have trusight so no skip
But they dont cast on the tank so why are we talking about spellblocl? For when the group inevitably wipes and they're all 3 casting on u ? 😆
teal heron
Boys at what point do we drop the onyx ring?
if at all
I've got a 444 version of the ring from halls and the one from freehold
waxen vale
When the nerf goes live ig or be like me and never get it. You dont have to drop it if u never got it
🧠🧠🧠
teal heron
true and fair
fair elm
scrub scrub
it just makes prot warrior so easy tho 😦
tropic gorge
woo 424 forgestorm
was helping a buddy that returned, and as it were it finally dropped for me
sick sentinel
i need 700 stones, for 2h weapon to 437, then im done with farming stones
viral elk
how much of a scrub am I if I use this macro?
```
#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cas...
Don't think it's scrubby at all. I tag shield slam on a lot of shit off gcd. I came to slam, so welcome to the jam.
strong forum
I remember seeing a good video during Shadowlands, explaining what to look for i...
@jagged pier did that iirc
lime urchin
gloomy vortex
any decent vids for going through logs?
jagged pier
I removed the vid link from my copy pasta
Cause its like an expansion out of date but meh can re link there just more to look for nowadays and more to say in the overall of 'logs' and understanding what your looking out mostly due to more talent points etc
I can still link if ppl want but it is a bit out of date i guess it shows the quick things to look at
craggy pilot
jeez the Runic Protector in Uldaman
blazing condor
new jakey vid
craggy pilot
this pull in Uldaman, would you split that in Fort?
like the bleed is just insane
but if i do 1 at a time, i can just outrange it perma
jagged pier
new jakey vid
blazing condor
go work
humble schooner
but if i do 1 at a time, i can just outrange it perma
one is easier, can do both if you are good in ranging the bleed
craggy pilot
man i feel Uldaman is a dungeon for my Festering Splinter, ran out of defensives for the Runic Protector real fast
jagged gust
how much of a scrub am I if I use this macro?
```
#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cas...
Honestly this always felt like a bad idea to me, it's pretty hard to miss a SS proc, SB is usually used off cadence with the GCD (Unless you're a clicker then I guess you need all the help you can get) and I'd rather be more in control of my GCD and not accidentally trigger one when I intended to go for a stun/CC and possibly miss kicking a cast
chilly brook
new jakey vid
New @jagged pier vid would be FIRE
jagged pier
Please no 😦
humble schooner
Honestly this always felt like a bad idea to me, it's pretty hard to miss a SS p...
yeah I wouldn't recommend it either, as sometimes you may not want to use the rage on a shield block if only taking spell damage
chilly brook
Please no 😦
Jakey, Jakey, Jakey, Jakey!
crude notch
Jakeypoo stream when?
twin bramble
Pretty new player and still have to figure out how to sim so apologies for the question. I have all 437 /441 gear currently. If I get a 441 with secondary stats downgrade like haste/vers to vers/mastery, is it still best to take the ilevel (on average)?
Looking at stat priority it says ilevel>haste>vers=crit but not sure if that’s applicable at last upgrade from 437 to 441
twin bramble
i forgot to unequip the chest before the key
Lol
echo egret
BH just before 3rd boss, I was told the pack with 1 hunter and 4 hyenas was skippable, anyone knows how ? (other than invi pot)
twin bramble
I ran NL a few times today. Not sure if I got lucky with groups but the timer seems free
sick sentinel
depends how good your group is at killing adds and standing behind everything
urban portal
Looking at stat priority it says ilevel>haste>vers=crit but not sure if that’s a...
Yeah ilevel is bis
twin bramble
Yeah ilevel is bis
Thanks!
urban portal
Unless it’s rings or trinket is where it gets messy
jagged pier
Jakey, Jakey, Jakey, Jakey!
Ill think about it
twin bramble
Not sure what happened but high keys are seeming so much easier currently. Maybe shield from 437 to 447 makes a bigger difference than I thought?
mighty valley
10 ilvls on a shield is pretty real but you’re probably just getting better
twin bramble
Are there some pieces that make a significant difference with survivability like that? Or is ilevel ilevel.
nocturne spindle
BH just before 3rd boss, I was told the pack with 1 hunter and 4 hyenas was skip...
just walk up the cliff to the left and walk past it
sick sentinel
zero haste first criit second necks MADGE
proper roost
depends what you mean by high keys, but ya you're probably just getting better
do more practice in keys get better (shocking!)
especially as tank the biggest noticeable diff is just when someone is actually prepared for a pack that will hit hard
and cds appropriately
warm girder
this pull in Uldaman, would you split that in Fort?
Nah, I actually chain these two into the third Refti Custodian (don't rush down, stutter step with the two inital guys). Just gotta be quick on your feet to never eat a bleed. But if you do accidentally, pop SW right away and make sure not to get a second.
jagged gust
you're a madlad
warm girder
Why? 🙃
jagged gust
Oh just because you've got a lot more balls than me going for that pull
tho tbh I'm pretty burnt on uld since last night, I think I had 1 run in 3 hours where I wasn't either first or second on DPS
fallow crown
haven't played protw since bfa
is not taking devastator a big loss? st rotation feels really empty (maybe changes at higher gear/with tier?) and I miss spamming it
jagged gust
you use revenge in place of devastate, you should never let a gcd be wasted as prot
then you spam thunderclap/revenge to proc shield slam resets
craggy pilot
haven't played protw since bfa
is not taking devastator a big loss? st rotation ...
sounds like youre doing something wrong in priority
toxic pewter
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen anyone actually want to play devestate
By all means my good man
undone verge
Nah, I actually chain these two into the third Refti Custodian (don't rush down,...
I skip the first two then pull all 3
true portal
it's not optimal but i usually do the first pack alone then the next two snakes together when pugging- it's worth taking it slow if you're not sure if the group can kill one of the snakes before you get to the third
warm girder
Oh just because you've got a lot more balls than me going for that pull
It's actually not that scary once you figure this pack out. They are very susceptible to stuns, so shockwave once all together goes a long way. Otherwise, just outrange their bleed which is rather easy as they don't move while they cast it. As warrior you can just charge back in for extra rage. Rinse and repeat till deadge.
cinder storm
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen anyone actually want to play devestate
When I started playing pwar I liked devastate because it was another button to press and seemed like a good idea at the time
warm girder
It's very rare these days that I don't have any buttons to press. I think it only happens in two scenarios:
- I'm not close to boss/mobs to generate rage/play rotation correctly
- I fcked up pretty bad on my rotational abilities and rage starved myself
toxic pewter
Yeah I definitely don’t want any more buttons to press
craggy pilot
is the 2nd pack of Ticks skippable in Underrot?
strong forum
You can walk past the ticks
Without going to the right side
Just hug the pillar on the left side
craggy pilot
oh
never had issue with ticks, and did +21 last week 🤔 but idk if its just good grp stun chaining them or what
today i got like 16 stacks of the bleed insta
what exta % should i take then hmm, the 3 lashers?
cinder storm
I would take them out of the route, its a waste of resources
Theres also the chance that someone walks too far and puts the pat or the pack on the right
toxic pewter
I avoid the ticks they can mess up the group but other people inevitably pull them so be prepared to pick them up
craggy pilot
yea but what to replace with? 3 lashers or 1 faceless corrupter?
proper roost
Don't pull fortified ticks, you 100% cannot do them in high keys
cinder storm
I pull that 1 faceless on top of the skelies and the worm, its only avoid frontal and kick work type of pack
proper roost
They will wipe your entire group minus you
toxic pewter
Yah ticks just a bad play
proper roost
ticks are really, really efficient count
but they will straight up oneshot your entire group at around 22+ even if you have major group defensives
And if you're doing lower than that your healer is no shot prepared at all and it'll still chunk everyone down to 5-10%
... with bursting existing
And other mobs
cinder storm
I would suggest if you really want to pull ticks, to consider having a frost mage in your grp, if you want to come with extra count, pulling the bats that are flying to the right of the 2nd skeleton pack is not a bad idea
proper roost
Hell no
You avoid all bloodswarmers as much as possible
they are terrifying even on tyr and cause the highest amount of variance in the key
this is the standard pug route, it's at 96.88%
To get the remaining count you must either pull the 3 lasher pack or 2 worms or 1 extra giant
Giant into 13 is efficient, skipping 14 worm with shroud is efficient, you can also skip 12 by pulling the giant
worms = inefficient
giants = actually really efficient
cinder storm
I cant recall what bloodswarmers did, I've pulled them a few times with skeletons and as long as you kick them its fine, it was a regular pull back in bfa, but again, I have 0 idea what they do
proper roost
They fixate on random people and jump on them
If you do any high keys they will 2 shot cloth rdps
Aka your mage
That freezes except the bloodswarmer literally jumps on them and two shots them
And even if they didn't do that all of your rdps need to lose a bunch of dps running around in circles kiting them
ofc as a tank you don't pay attention to this but bloodswarmers are what dictate your pace of pulling around Cragmaw
fervent bramble
how you guys are dealing with piercing shards in NL seems to hit me hard even with cd up
cinder storm
They fixate on random people and jump on them
Ah, they are the same as the spiders, I call those others next to your pull 9 bats, but they are the same thing
cinder storm
*dogs
jagged gust
That's definitely a dog
sick sentinel
bat
it has wings and it flies a bit
that thing is a spider and a bat made a baby and thats the result
jagged gust
so do flying squirrel, you dont see us calling them avians now do you
cinder storm
bird actually
proper roost
Anyway UR is like the most straightforward route
don't think any pug tank really deviates from this
Except for the dumbass dogshit ones that go left after cragmaw for some reason
Really a hold w key
cinder storm
Except for the dumbass dogshit ones that go left after cragmaw for some reason
it's so they can jump over the wall and avoid the casters that will never get pulled during the encounter with the boss with pugs 
crude notch
You need the count so you go right
Because worms are more inefficient than a discord argument
jagged gust
Actually i have a dumb question, whats the actual aggro range of cragmaw? Im always so fucking hesitant doing my pulls around him
crude notch
7.5 yds
cinder storm
You have to walk really close, but in my experience, its always a druid that pull it
crude notch
Actually I don't know because no one knows that shit
jagged gust
oh wow thats tiny
crude notch
Just pull shit
jagged gust
pull it for me
proper roost
the hardest skill of them all
crude notch
If you've ever looked with your eyeballs you can tell there's a decent bit of a distance between him and all the trash
proper roost
practice the key more so you find out for yourself
crude notch
And if you pull him don't freak out just heroic leap back towards first boss
He's quite easy to reset
jagged gust
oh thats good to know
Honestly ive been avoiding UR like the plague, so my experience is like 90% what I vaguely remember from bfa and even then I was a coward and hugged the walls doing my pulls lol
crude notch
Do a BfA route ain't no one gonna care
proper roost
literally have not seen a single person bitch about tank route in keys this season
even when it's dogshit
crude notch
Because 99% of non-tanks don't know routes lol
proper roost
just pull with confidence and don't instantly die when you charge in
no one bitches about tank routes you just psych yourself up in your mind
cinder storm
Because 99% of non-tanks don't know routes lol
and 100% of the time they think they do
sick sentinel
Because 99% of non-tanks don't know routes lol
"pull bigger" says one our dps when we are already struggling to keep a-float on baby pulls due to healer
jagged gust
literally have not seen a single person bitch about tank route in keys this seas...
That's true enough, I honestly haven't had a single bad experience this xpac, it's nothing but wholesome ass friendly players
proper roost
or you're doing some like +11 where nothing anyone says matters
No I mean I definitely bitch about tank routes in my head or in discord
But it's a pug who cares
sick sentinel
that was the key that i think is my fastest to date, was an 11 or 12 lair in 13:XX
proper roost
Will literally never see you again if you pull badly
toxic pewter
Any RouteLord that gives me shit, I immediately cease the run and converse with the individual
I try to understand them
And learn
sick sentinel
i only pully like a bitch when there appears to be a reason
proper roost
No let's not do this again
you do NOT need to DM every single person who declines you from their key and ask why
please
that is psycho behavior
crude notch
Lol
toxic pewter
I do that only sometimes
crude notch
I remember that
toxic pewter
But during the key
crude notch
I was like wtf
cinder storm
I cease any and all action
crude notch
That's childish af
toxic pewter
And converse with them at that time and place
sick sentinel
thats pathetic behavior tbh
toxic pewter
I must do it
proper roost
damn even yogi is flaming you for this one
sick sentinel
reeks of im not confident
toxic pewter
In order to learn
proper roost
taking a big L on this one chief
crude notch
You think they're disrespecting you because they don't agree with your route
proper roost
jordan should I gear my hpally or my healing priest? i only value your opinion and not my own (i have no opinion)
crude notch
Grow TF up
proper roost
i tried playing my bear and I really do not enjoy it
crude notch
Because of YOUR ego
cinder storm
I can't blame you, some dps literally stop playing just to chat for 15 mins about how they are the next imfireup or jpc, I wouldnt do it, but I understand why you'd do it
toxic pewter
I always must attain more knowledge
toxic pewter
No, it’s the opposite. I encounter and crave knowledge and i must learn more
So if someone wants to share it
I have to in that moment learn
Otherwise I cannot grasp it
sick sentinel
im still only gunnna play warrior personally as main
crude notch
Save that shit for the end of the key
cinder storm
This is the real always posting bait not the watered down version we've had for a while
proper roost
may i suggest that I think apb is just baiting 99% of the time and does not actually do anything he says he does
his name stands for Always Pe Baiting
post
post baiting
FUCK
it was right in front of me
cinder storm
master baiting
toxic pewter
No, if they want to chime in during the key, I will at that time and place be open to what they have to say
crude notch
No, if they want to chime in during the key, I will at that time and place be op...
Stop it
proper roost
can I get some serious input on the hpally vs healer priest thing? my shaman is done and I need a 3rd alt
toxic pewter
I’m serious though
crude notch
can I get some serious input on the hpally vs healer priest thing? my shaman is ...
Hpal
crude notch
I’m serious though
That's the problem
cinder storm
everyone is going hpal so go with priest
proper roost
ok nice my pally has CM set so it's gonna look swag
toxic pewter
I am able to take criticism, it is those of you who continue on and ignore them that actually is weak if you think about it
sick sentinel
i don't ignore anyone, you can learn even from the stupid and vile
toxic pewter
I learn the best in the moment when I actually have a conversation about what is occurring
proper roost
i ignore the vast majority of chat within keys which is turning out to be a bad habit when I need to know when my tank wants lust on fort
😔
daring marlin
i ignore the vast majority of chat within keys which is turning out to be a bad ...
Just ask before the key starts
ez
proper roost
it's usually just the 2nd or 3rd lust i missed it on
pallid quiver
I also talk about it before key starts
toxic pewter
Why put off until later that which can be done now
pallid quiver
Or I bring a DPS to just send it via discord vc
cinder storm
I've learned to ignore details for the past year and a half, watching others perform was tilting me more than depleting a key
proper roost
was doing a fh21 on wednesday and 30s into a double pull before 2nd boss I saw the tank typed lust
sick sentinel
hell no, i never played a lust class before, and i don't intend to start
crude notch
Bro are you ignorant
proper roost
and i was like oops
crude notch
Are you missing the key thing I've said 5 times now?
toxic pewter
Listen if someone calls me out I must confront what is said and have the opportunity to rebut
crude notch
No
sick sentinel
i let bloodlust ppl do blood lust things
toxic pewter
Ya
crude notch
Time
toxic pewter
???
crude notch
Because someone questioned your route
toxic pewter
Who said that what
crude notch
I've said it multiple times
toxic pewter
I do cease any and all activity in certain cases yes. In order to learn more
cinder storm
Bruh, I thought you had a table and chair toy and you sat to talk with the dps
step it up
toxic pewter
Knowledge is most important thing there is
crude notch
I do cease any and all activity in certain cases yes. In order to learn more
This is demon behavior
proper roost
don't give him any ideas, he's going to incorporate this into the next bait
crude notch
You can acquire knowledge after the key is over
daring marlin
This is demon behavior
Gonna have to agree here
toxic pewter
Nothing else matters
daring marlin
You can acquire knowledge after the key is over
THIS
toxic pewter
No
proper roost
it's 100% baiting because he's bored on discord
crude notch
apb the psycho that messages a girl every day after she rejects him
toxic pewter
I’m not baiting, if there is an issue with the route I need to attain it as soon as possible
The knowledge about what is wrong
daring marlin
If that's true you should record your runs and review them later.
toxic pewter
I can’t correct it until I understand it
crude notch
You don't have to obtain it mid key
proper roost
it is fiction.
toxic pewter
Yah sometimes I do though
crude notch
No you don't
toxic pewter
I do in certain cases
crude notch
You think you do
daring marlin
Because stopping in the middle of a run to converse with someone that criticizes your route is insanity
proper roost
daring marlin
Ignore the fuck and move on
daring marlin
waste of time
toxic pewter
With newfound knowledge
sick sentinel
Yah sometimes I do though
sometimes the less you think about MDT and look at MDT the better you do in your key
crude notch
You can't correct something you already pulled you idiot
daring marlin
in a timed environment
cinder storm
In other news I've been having so much fun with D4 Druid, the boulder skill makes me lmao every.single.time.
crude notch
Yes saved until after the key
sick sentinel
cuz you don't have the image onf this one guyt like ii'll use the green rock men and cave in bastards in lair around boss 2
crude notch
You can learn after the key
sick sentinel
and you get paranoid oh fuck hes got this spell its gunna wipe us
AND THEN IT HAPPENS
toxic pewter
If someone has knowledge that I do not possess it’s actually wrong to not learn it though
I’d be doing a disservice
sick sentinel
and your left with negative emotions about it
hazy bronze
You're wasting the time when you could ask after the timer is stopped
crude notch
No one is saying don't learn
toxic pewter
Yeah but not everyone learns the same way
I learn best in the true “heat of the moment”
proper roost
this is literally the same bait argument that happened last time when he said he whispers all group leads
toxic pewter
I do
proper roost
it's not real
sick sentinel
i only ever chased down like 2 or 3 people
toxic pewter
If I qualified for a group I’d like to know why I was declined
sick sentinel
asking them why they left key early or some shit
cinder storm
Y'all are masochist but I always enjoy these conversations
crude notch
If this is a bait I'm not sure if that's any better
crude notch
Then you need a therapist.
toxic pewter
Just to learn
sick sentinel
it was back in BFA and this was before i knew about this discord
toxic pewter
I mean I like to hear why they declined me if I feel I am meeting g requirements
sick sentinel
and i don't recall the scenario, but i ran this key and the guy left long story short
proper roost
toxic pewter
They don’t always respond
toxic pewter
I’m not baiting
sick sentinel
so i messaged him say wtf did i do wrong cuz he said i was doing it wrong.
warm plinth
I watched a dude on EU streaming and he messaged every group leader saying some variation of "big pp"
sick sentinel
after that i stopped doing it people would block me and whatever
proper roost
someone applied to my group earlier with the message "i will smash dps more than wow has smashed our social lives" and I thought it was amusing
he also had 0 timed 20s so i declined him tho...
sick sentinel
healer would get mad that i didn't do X mechanic and block me for whatever reason
toxic pewter
That is true also sometimes gotta do what ya gotta do
sick sentinel
I watched a dude on EU streaming and he messaged every group leader saying some ...
big PP meta works
warm plinth
I decline anyone who messages me tbh
daring marlin
Hi, I'm apb. You might remember me from such films as "What Timer?" "You Think You Can Decline Me?" and "Whose Route is this Anyway?"
sick sentinel
im telling you this, if someone as thier opener comes at you with hostility of any kind and you never spoke to that person
proper roost
the knowledge is how far you can bait people into thinking this is real
before they realize it's not
sick sentinel
immediately block them and never think about them again
toxic pewter
I mean you can believe what you want
proper roost
the current world record any% is 20 minutes
sick sentinel
not if they say fuck off, but if they are legit angry or you have to do my way or else
crude notch
I decline anyone who messages me tbh
same
proper roost
Anyway, tank egos are fragile and that's why no one bitches about tank routes even if you do the most demon terrible route known to man
toxic pewter
Lol
proper roost
exhibit A:
toxic pewter
Listen it’s not like everyone
But sometimes I wanna know
I guess I can never know
sick sentinel
i tend to be more poker face social in keysr
crude notch
You actually did that well apb
sick sentinel
hello when i join OMW when i travel who needs summons, GG TY at the end
crude notch
Lined that up nicely with Kanga's message
sick sentinel
every key
toxic pewter
Yes perfect timing lmao
strong forum
Anyway, tank egos are fragile and that's why no one bitches about tank routes ev...
🧢
sick sentinel
i would like to know what nomer thinks about the current discussion
toxic pewter
Fuk routelords. Gonna get that tatted on me
proper roost
being on the search for a tank that doesn't instantly crack when you say "hey next time we do this key could you press cds when the wardens blazing slash" is like finding a diamond in a haystack 🙂
sick sentinel
but seems like hes busy and can only watch on 2nd/3rd monitor
cinder storm
Fuk routelords. Gonna get that tatted on me
"Always W" that's what I would get tatted
sick sentinel
If i could get a tatoo it would say hold W
crude notch
Bro, one of two things are true right now:
- this was all a bait
- this wasn't a bait, you do this demon behavior because you're secretly a serial killer in training so you won't stop until you literally show up at someone's house to ask why they declined you then whack them with an axe
strong forum
Jabeted mon
sick sentinel
P O P C O R N
cinder storm
Bro, one of two things are true right now:
1) this was all a bait
2) this wasn...
Tobias Rieper
toxic pewter
I will do better
proper roost
i think you should live your life tbh
but next time use one of the picnic basket toys when you sit down and have a conversation with your dps
that way everyone can feel cozy and welcomed
toxic pewter
I will admit I sometimes phrase things poorly
I agree the end of the dungeon is the better place for criticism I suppose
crude notch
toxic pewter
HERES apb
crude notch
Apb you're like that guy in the heroic raid a couple weeks ago when I won Anvil.
Rogue - "I'll give you 200k gold"
Me - "Nope"
Rogue - "Just nope?"
"No sorry?"
"Learn manners f**"
toxic pewter
LOLwtf
proper roost
Powerful
crude notch
I shouldn't say you're like him this conversation just reminded me of him.
proper roost
I only got one whisper when I won rashoks on my shaman
crude notch
Lol
warm plinth
If you're not offering feet pics, you're not even trying, and you don't deserve my sympathy.
crude notch
Like I'm not gonna apologize for winning a dice roll.
And I'm certainly not gonna apologize if well I'm not sorry.
toxic pewter
I may or may not of bought eranogg ring with gold LOL
graceful kite
Anyway, tank egos are fragile and that's why no one bitches about tank routes ev...
all pug egos are fragile
I just stay dead silent for the entirety of the run
crude notch
The only way to know that is to have pugged yourself, so you call your own ego fragile
graceful kite
any word, any smileyface can lead to someone leaving
crude notch
🤔
toxic pewter
I will admit yeah sometimes I get triggered I am only human
warm plinth
Triggered by what
crude notch
any word, any smileyface can lead to someone leaving
that's when you hit them with the ellipsis
graceful kite
and uf wipe happens you should res and heroic leap forward
crude notch
You know you're in a group with me if you randomly start seeing someone type "..."
graceful kite
it happened to me like yesterday when i was helping out a friend and a apug turned away and moved towards the exit in vp
and here i come bounding stride and shit
warm plinth
I just don't say anything. There's no reason to encourage any sort of conversation. Just do it again or whatever.
graceful kite
yea
crude notch
Yeah just talk shit about them in discords or twitter.
warm plinth
Exactly
graceful kite
the exception is when ur doing weekly which might be untimed yo ushould ask if theyre fine with it
toxic pewter
that's when you hit them with the ellipsis
Does that actually work
crude notch
Work in what way?