still id pick trinkets
#protection
lusty grotto
torn gulch
yea i am trending towards that as well so i can play with heart/mark
and using talisman in particularly hard keys
lusty grotto
what the fuck lmao
torn gulch
imagine the wq not giving rep
lusty grotto
i just did it on alt and didnt give shit
torn gulch
garbage
lusty grotto
i was like HUH
sick sentinel
talisman seems really solid, only had like 1-3 keys with it at most
torn gulch
it's decent but again it's a defensive trinket
lusty grotto
its a defensive trinket
torn gulch
if you want to blast you play double offensive
lusty grotto
🤷
torn gulch
there you go
sick sentinel
double defensive trinkets is pepega
modern brook
If you want trinkets to contribute towards your defensiveness you should just opt for stat sticks
It will have a larger impact than poorly planned on use shields or rng healing procs
sick sentinel
nothing wrong with having 1 tank trinket, 2 is often questionable
modern brook
There's a lot wrong with having a tank trinket just for the sake of it
sick sentinel
i tend to only do 2 tank trinkets if they are automatic, or at least 1 is automatic
modern brook
It's a huge opportunity loss for basically no gain
torn gulch
i never played with more than 1 tank trinket depending on scenario
modern brook
Tfw glasses
odd nimbus
how good is the back piece from last boss?
modern brook
Mid
sick sentinel
modern brook
It's as good as any cloak of It's ilvl and then a little better than that
sick sentinel
i mean, its less cursed now, but still
modern brook
In m+ the uptime is ass
lusty grotto
how good is the back piece from last boss?
only good for raids
torn gulch
seems the trinket is wrong on sims
shows on sims that is doing 61k damage on proc but the 447 version in game shows me 69k
interesting
lusty grotto
it procs like twice on a boss during raid
if youre lucky
im not planning on using it for keys
torn gulch
what would be a good aoe sim to see the number for this trinket?
lusty grotto
this is concerning the sark cloak btw
lusty grotto
if the numbers arent fitting the description, you might need to talk to simc guys
heart
modern brook
Against what?
lusty grotto
versa affecting it perhaps?
torn gulch
in sims the 447 version of the trinket shows that is doing 61k per proc in game it shows 69k
modern brook
OK no I get that
torn gulch
it should not be affected by vers according to wowhead
lusty grotto
ah
modern brook
What is the proc hitting in game and what is it hitting in the sim
modern brook
Aight well a) tool tip b) kvalues
Mmm maybe not kvalues persay but raid bosses take less dam from things than say random mobs in the open world
Like hell if you have warmode on the numbers probably change
lusty grotto
thats actually true
modern brook
Trust your sim then your details before you worry about a tooltip
torn gulch
i ended up going with the 447 heart
a belt can be crafted at 447 after all
and socketed from vault
sick sentinel
i ended up going with the 447 heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVZzXgMdXs thunder bros
dusky canopy
Are you serious bro you got both the items I’m after in the same kill….
daring marlin
https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235
based
sick sentinel
digibyte
warm cloak
can you block zskarn bombs, I have been chosen as torture victim for our progress
warm cloak
big sad
warm cloak
if only they would read, maybe they will
modern brook
Are not be spell block
lusty grotto
thanks, corrected it
it do be like that sometimes
whos the actual raid designer at blizzard
i cant keep track, does anyone know?
errr lead designer i mean
olive bay
man, I'm jealous. I have 137 kills and still no mount 😦
olive bay
errr lead designer i mean
There isn't one - they quit
lusty grotto
found him
olive bay
Or was that a different lead designer?
frosty mist
well, 441 ring in the vault with another 441 ring in the bag, gain 8k dps in aoe, think it's fine 😄
crystal mauve
Do we know when the nerfs to Annulet are coming?
daring marlin
10.1.5???
lusty grotto
when the patch hits
daring marlin
lmaooo
plush tendon
crude notch
Well certainly not -1 week from that date.
toxic pewter
Oh right
Revised my date
Could even be surprise late June like 2 weeks from now… that would own but prob not right
sick sentinel
Got both in my first kill i didnt realiE it was rare
fervent bramble
nocturne spindle
annulet and 441+ rings were already pretty close for us at least
its literally just free DEEPS
ocean yoke
Bit surprised they touched the amulet but left eranog ring as is
jagged pier
who knows
vocal nimbus
where*
jagged pier
dont think anyones looked into the numbers
sick sentinel
may have to run halls for the haste versa ring for haste versa set
daring marlin
haste vers gross
waxen vale
Thanks for looking into it. Are you sure on those occasions where i didn't it wasn't up from shield charge? Not saying it's not likely I'm sure i have gaps
I always use the talent that makes charge give block
And if I'm doing that is def because I'm a noob bit I'm also pretty freaked out to get aggro at the start of some pulls often
So i just feel compelled to use big dam
Aoe abilities
Its def more complicated getting aggro as a warr than pally
So that's kind of new
modern brook
I always use the talent that makes charge give block
It's the same buff if it drops its cause you dropped it
waxen vale
Usually i spam the button for shield block
While doing other stuff randomly
It seems like there's no reason to hold charges?
It just increases the duration anyway right not refresh
modern brook
There is a cap, hitting it is unrealistic
You don't spam it cause it's rage thay could gone towards resetting shield slam
Also cause dumping both charges and then shield blocking while walking to the next pull makes you miss blocking, for example, 28% of the hits you tank
warm plinth
To be fair, that's not the only issue here.
It's more just the fact that you're dropping charges of shield block when you just don't need to. I bet you had a lot of uptime in between packs that was just unnecessary because you're doing shit like this:
Like you just got 15 seconds of shield block; why would you press it again 2 seconds later
lusty grotto
like i said before, hes panic reacting
thats why he sends 4 different defensive cds at once
warm plinth
yeah, and he's just not pressing buttons correctly, or enough
51cpm, revenge is his top cast
warm plinth
compact forum
Anyone got a WA for tracking shield block?
warm plinth
Just make one. New WA, from template, pick either bar or icon whatever you prefer, choose shield block under buffs, boom, you got a WA
hazy bronze
unreal arrow
Thanks for looking into it. Are you sure on those occasions where i didn't it w...
I am not sure, just had a quick look on my phone, looks like you pressed shield block twice a minute so I assume it's not got 100% uptime, some people pulled some data out and saw you took melee hits which weren't blocked which means shield block not up or mobs behind you
Yeah I get aggro issues just have faith that thunderclap/shield charge is gonna grab all the aggro, you would do well to start pulls with last stand to have shield block up, then few revenges would be more acceptable
mighty valley
if i pre-ravager and everyone knows the prio target, i don't really get aggro issues, even if i don't shield charge til after demo and TR
you can shield block off've the charge + avatar rage, or make sure you're not totally drained from the previous pull
frosty mist
Hey guys, for my first try on experiment hm, these debuff hit me so hard, how much stacks I'm suppose to take ? Both tank with 10 stacks ?
fresh igloo
is "hm" heroic?
lusty grotto
5 stacks on other tank? taunt
then hug
blow up
take 5 stacks
have tank taunt
blow up
rinse and repeat
just dont blow up too early to stack the aoe
i keep it under 2 aoe stacks if possible, very doable with just having 1
and in case you dont know, every time you hug the other tank and you both have stacks <--- that's what i mean by blowing up
it clears both of your stacks
but it adds an aoe dot
that stacks
its a fun fight
frosty mist
At 5 stacks ? Ok, will try that next time. Ty
lusty grotto
then blow up with your tank remember
fresh igloo
buddy system
mighty valley
blow my tank, got it
lusty grotto
modern gazelle
this week is def rougher than last week tanking lol
bursting hurts
timed my first +15 this week though on BH with a healer who had only done +13's
mighty valley
can get away with a lot of bursting with dps timing and mass dispel
but yeah fort generally requires more tank knowledge than tyran
but brickwalls keys less
modern gazelle
do you guys swap routes on fort keys?
mighty valley
no not really
you still want most percent for least dps generally
but if you don't trust the squad you should probably pull smaller for bursting
sleek current
I change one pack in Nelth for Fortified because those bonecleavers or whatever they're called are nasty.
So, I'd rather skip 'em.
lusty grotto
but bonecleavers get yeeted by chains
sleek current
The ones upstairs?
round pendant
wait, this is the good trinket right? when people were talking about it I thought they meant the grapnel lmao
lusty grotto
hmm i dont remember them upstairs
sleek current
I'm talking about the ones that charge and throw an axe at people
I can't remember what they're called.
modern gazelle
i had been using quazii routes but dont love some of his, is there a place you guys get your routes or do you just make them?
lusty grotto
its funny when they jump on the same person
sleek current
i remember the ones you say, the patrol
Yeah, I just skip 'em on Fort because if the two pack hits the same person. Boom, they're gone. 😂
lusty grotto
yeeted and deleted
modern gazelle
i adjust as i do more and people show diff things but if there is a good place to get routes that would be great
lusty grotto
quazii is as good as it gets as a starting point
sleek current
Aye, Quazii is my go to and then I kind of just play around and experiement or... Fail a key hard and figure out what went wrong. 😄
round pendant
I mean if everyone watched Quazii videos, dps included, the entire playerbase would be like twice as good
modern gazelle
i binged all of his vids before i started tanking lmao
the 1min tricks are the best
sleek current
Yes but, they often get patched within a day of him releasing the video. Haha
modern gazelle
bugs yeah but a lot are just mechanics
like moving neltharion lair boss to place both totems, or insta stunning mob etc
saves a lot of damage/time
sleek current
Aye, his tip for last boss of Ruby Life Pools last season was a saver for me. I would've never put two and two together. 😂
modern gazelle
i also use his WA and adjusted it with my own ui, but i like his buff and SB placement
sleek current
I'm curious how other tanks deal with Forgemaster because I just stack the fire circles all on top of each other and charge out.
modern gazelle
thats what i do
first place then walk out, second leap or charge out, 3rd leap or charge out
sleek current
I use Luxthos for my WeakAuras. I'm not keen on Quazii's just a style thing though.
sleek current
The one that has the anvil and bangs it three times then immediately throws his shield.
round pendant
I use a modified quazii WA for prot warrior with Nome's SR tracker
pretty good tbh, I don't like the other ones, they all feel awkward to modify
sleek current
I like Luxthos custom options.
round pendant
The one that has the anvil and bangs it three times then immediately throws his ...
the dude that pushes you away and jumps on you?
sleek current
round pendant
Is that boss even remotely challenging ever? it seems really simple
sleek current
the dude that pushes you away and jumps on you?
That's the one, aye
sleek current
Is that boss even remotely challenging ever? it seems really simple
It can be pretty harsh for the healer because there is a lot of damage going out in a short period of time and if for example, I couldn't just charge on a longer fight (which is often the case in 20's) you can really restrict the space for the players
proper roost
it's the biggest healing check in that dungeon on tyr, and there are major los issues
so highly dependent on tank positioning the slams in the correct areas imo
the anvil LoSes which is really cool 🙂
sleek current
Infurating init. 😂
round pendant
I never thought to stack the fire though tbh, I usually just went around in a circle
but I haven't done any high keys yet so maybe that runs out of room if you have poopoo dps
sleek current
Aye, just stack it right on top of each other. Get knocked back, wait for the circle to appear and charge before he jumps.
proper roost
it's not really about running out of room, bad slams are just if you go opposite the anvil
and then as he runs back, everyone los healer because they just went from opposite sides on the anvil
round pendant
it's really weird if the bosses own anvil can los its own mechanics lmao
proper roost
no just the healer
round pendant
oh right
sleek current
Aye, just the healer and us. 😂
sleek current
I wish we could LOS him. The hammering to shield throw is pretty brutal. I clench my arsecheeks every time.
warm plinth
The puddles disappear every like 2 heating strikes anyway
proper roost
as long as you use either side (where the blacksmith trash was), you're fine
it's even very safe to just do 1 side trash
the only danger is that you can very easily pull the patting trash up top
if you skipped that but get slammed into that direction
so
don't do that
luxthos known weakaura terrorist
warm plinth
I don't really care for his WAs. He uses way too many glows and outlines
proper roost
5 million unnecessary trackers, a bunch of custom code for very basic functions so editing it is a nightmare, every single thing glows
warm plinth
If everything glows then it defeats the purpose of the glow
warm plinth
5 million unnecessary trackers, a bunch of custom code for very basic functions ...
Someone actually asked about changing something and he basically told them if you don't like it, don't use it
So, kind of a dick too 🙂
proper roost
idk why there can't be a popular class package wa maker that doesn't overbloat their shit by a ton
warm plinth
Meanwhile Afenar's is SUPER customizable
Everything is nice and separated and you can delete what you don't need
proper roost
will have to try that out for alts
sleek current
I don't mind it. Pretty sure I'm the reason the demo shout glows.
sleek current
So, I remember it exists.
round pendant
I remember it exists because it feels bad if you don't demo shout before shield charge
sleek current
Revenge glows in base UI, I'm pretty sure that's why that's glowing and the SS is probably just a reset.
warm plinth
I remember it exists because it feels bad if you don't demo shout before shield ...
this
Revenge glows when it procs, yes
When you have Revenge!
round pendant
I don't like Revenge as a skill
proper roost
i mean honestly biggest issue i have with luxthos packs is they HAVE no cd rage dumps like that displayed on screen
warm plinth
It's not just the glows though; why the fuck is everything outlined
proper roost
knowing that revenge is free is good, but there is literally no reason to have the revenge button up there ALL the time
like why. you can just press it lol
warm plinth
I don't like Revenge as a skill
Whirlwind is the superior spell obviously
sleek current
Pretty sure they're outlined because I'm using them. 😂
round pendant
Whirlwind is the superior spell obviously
Where's that guy who said he used whirlwind just cause he liked the sound it makes
sleek current
Stylistic choice init.
warm plinth
If I see a duration on it and it's saturated, that tells me it's active
Why do I need an outline
sleek current
That works for you. Personally saturated buttons for me tell my brain I don't have enough rage. Which for example if I didn't have rage for IP it would grey out.
round pendant
Glowing borders when it's active is just dumb
Things should glow when they need your attention
fresh igloo
That works for you. Personally saturated buttons for me tell my brain I don't ha...
i think you mean desaturated?
sleek current
Of course
sleek current
I'm aware, I just wrote the wrong thing in response to someone.
warm plinth
well yeah, I will never argue that personal customization isn't important!
If you like how it looks then you'll be more apt to look at it
I'd rather a lot of people in here use hekili than what the fuck they're currently doing 
sleek current
If it works... I mean who really cares.
It's just elitism for the sake of elitism.
warm plinth
Well, tbf I don't know a lot about hekili. Like does it actually use defensives properly, does it actually follow the correct up-to-date APL, etc.
fresh igloo
i used to roll my own WA for everything but it turned in to a lot of work. not a fan of how hekili presents data though.
proper roost
do you really think criticizing overbuilt weakauras and screen alerts that turn into visual noise that you start disregarding, is elitism
oh you meant hekili
lusty grotto
whoa did they fix crusading strikes?
warm plinth
Fix it how?
fresh igloo
Well, tbf I don't know a lot about hekili. Like does it actually use defensives...
it's generally following current APL for rotations but it can't tell you anything about proper defensive use
lusty grotto
thats why i was using Templar for ST on Ret
modern gazelle
I use a modified quazii WA for prot warrior with Nome's SR tracker
yeah i use spell reflect essentials to let me know when something is reflectable
lusty grotto
hmmm... this guy just beat me using crusading strikes
warm plinth
@lusty grotto https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49-odyssey-oled-g95sc-dqhd-neo-quantum-processor-pro-0-03ms-240hz-curved-smart-gaming-monitor-ls49cg954snxza/ do I buy?
Maybe he's just better than you
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49-od...
sure
oh
i figured it out
crusading strikes + ST ring
i dont have ST ring on my pally cause i didnt really give a shit
round pendant
<@131897531251556352> https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49-od...
absolutely not
ultrawide is cringe
modern gazelle
i dont feel like quazii ui is bloated, this is what mine looks like without being in party
daring marlin
FRESH MEAT
modern gazelle
with party it goes on the bottom left below my health and i just have everyones interrupts attached to their names, with boss/ability bars on the right next to quests
round pendant
i dont feel like quazii ui is bloated, this is what mine looks like without bein...
You've seemingly modified that a lot?
the WA I mean
warm plinth
Newer OLEDs have technology that reduces the luminosity of shit that it detects has been on the screen for a while to avoid burn-in
modern gazelle
You've seemingly modified that a lot?
i just use his for the buffs and bar and stuff i removed his WA for abilities cause i like having my keybinds show, so i placed my action bars there
round pendant
I mean it has burnin but if you're using it properly (not leaving static shit on the screen for ages) it won't affect you til you're happy buying a new one anyway lmao
round pendant
i just use his for the buffs and bar and stuff i removed his WA for abilities ca...
oh right, I stopped using action bars cause I felt they distracted me from the game
daring marlin
did they fix crusading strikes?
I thought they fixed that garbage a month ago
I haven't been playing much tho
round pendant
This is literally all my WAs show
modern gazelle
oh right, I stopped using action bars cause I felt they distracted me from the g...
arent they teh same as WA except it shows keybind?
round pendant
As you can see, there's a lot of things not on WAs that I still press
modern gazelle
i like having my keybinds and with that setup i just couldnt track everything i wanted without making it look bad
sleek current
I mean that's basically everything, what else you pressing? Haha
warm plinth
I know all of my keybinds but for some reason I can't give up my action bars. Idk what it is
modern gazelle
interrupt, stun, trinkets, intimidating shout
lusty grotto
I thought they fixed that garbage a month ago
oh yeah
sleek current
Oooh yeah. 😂
modern gazelle
and the way i organize my stuff is diff, i dont like how he has them, so i tried to move them around but i ended up with too many on bar 1 and not enough on bar 2 to make it look nice
round pendant
I mean that's basically everything, what else you pressing? Haha
That's definitely not everything, pots, trinkets, fear shout, taunt shout, battle shout, some other stuff
Tho I do have my trinkets showing actually
My WA in m+ spec
warm plinth
It can be super irritating to move shit in some of those WA suites too because they have everything dynamically positioned
sleek current
Yeah, dawn said. I've been raiding some of that stuff has been out of mind.
modern gazelle
It can be super irritating to move shit in some of those WA suites too because t...
his isnt BAD, but its still more annoying than just putting my action bars there which serve sthe same purpose takes up barely any extra space and still lets me see my keybinds
round pendant
Yeah but seeing your keybinds is bad
warm plinth
Why
sleek current
I only use action bars for my resto druid so I have buttons left for my damage abilities.
warm plinth
Why is seeing your keybinds bad
round pendant
For things you use often, it's fine, like your rotational or regular CD buttons
but what if it's something you don't use often? you have to literally look at your bar and read what button it's on
warm plinth
Why do you have to do that 🤔
modern gazelle
no i dont lol i know all my buttons i just LIKE seeing the keybinds
round pendant
And if you don't need to do that, you don't need to show the keybinds
warm plinth
I know all of my buttons
It fucks with me if they're not there.
Even my mouse buttons which are not even like...useful
Because they're shit like [ and ;
modern gazelle
i press every button with my mouse and an augment
round pendant
I guess everyone's brain works differently
I personally feel like I get to enjoy the game more when I hide my bars
modern gazelle
0-9 are on my mouse, then i use alt/ctrl/shift to augment buttons
sleek current
I think if we've learnt anything here... It's definitely that everyone's brains work differently. 😄
modern gazelle
i never tak emy hands off wasd except for Q E F and R
warm plinth
I cannot use a mouse for rotation. It's super fucking awful
Puts so much strain on your hand too
round pendant
yeah that sounds like a recipe for RSI to me
warm plinth
I use my mouse for defensives and utility
modern gazelle
G502 feels amazing to me for pressing all buttons on mouse
round pendant
I don't use my mouse at all
warm plinth
My main rotation is all on keyboard
That's even worse; you don't even have that many buttons on a 502
round pendant
mouse4 is autorun, that's it for me
sleek current
I've used my mouse for rotation since I started back at the end of TBC. I don't have RSI. Haha
modern gazelle
3 thumb buttons (with gshift thats 6) and then i use middle mouse to the sides and down for an additional 3 buttons
round pendant
god that sounds so awful
sleek current
I use a 12 button mouse
round pendant
but if it works it works
warm plinth
Same Naidak
modern gazelle
how is that horrible?
warm plinth
I use the G600
round pendant
People say my keybinds are bad
sleek current
Naga Trinity here
modern gazelle
i press shift with my pinky and then press thumb button on mouse for example
modern gazelle
it take sthe same time as pressing any other key without having to take fingers off movement
round pendant
I use 1-6, ctrl1-6, shift1-6, alt1-6, qerf, shift-qerf, ctrl-qerf
That's all my keybinds
modern gazelle
I use 1-6, ctrl1-6, shift1-6, alt1-6, qerf, shift-qerf, ctrl-qerf
yes
sleek current
Yeah man! Could never go back. Haha
round pendant
actually I don't use alt-6, I switched it to alt-e
my alt buttons are all things I press less than once per minute though
modern gazelle
how do you click enough buttons if you dont use augments even
round pendant
or at most once per minute
modern gazelle
i have like 18 buttons, how the hell are you using 18 keybinds
proper roost
well first of all
warm plinth
I have big ass hands and pressing alt 6 sounds terrible
proper roost
unless you literally have no left hand (possible)
you have the entire left half of your keyboard available
modern gazelle
I have big ass hands and pressing alt 6 sounds terrible
you press alt and 6 is on your mouse
so you press alt with thumb and press 6 on mouse
warm plinth
That just doesn't make sense. What if you accidentally press the mouse button before the modifier
proper roost
or you could press X and have the same left hand movement and not have to press mouse button
🙂
round pendant
I have big ass hands and pressing alt 6 sounds terrible
Yeah it was the worst part, like I said I switched it to alt-e
modern gazelle
That just doesn't make sense. What if you accidentally press the mouse button b...
just dont?
see i dont like these cause i misclick too often
sleek current
That's my mouse! 😄
warm plinth
That sounds terrible. I mean good on you if it works for you but god damn
modern gazelle
round pendant
and like I said, the alt buttons are all things I don't press often
modern gazelle
this is all i need
warm plinth
Idk my mouse has two concave sides and has raised ridges for the middle 2 buttons
Very very easy to identify the buttons
modern gazelle
i can bind 12+ keys comfortably on my g502
round pendant
The alt keys ARE definitely the worst part of my setup, everything else is pretty good tho imo
modern gazelle
Idk my mouse has two concave sides and has raised ridges for the middle 2 button...
i tried once at a store and it hurt my thumbto use
warm plinth
I actually use uh, 14 buttons on my mouse
modern gazelle
The alt keys ARE definitely the worst part of my setup, everything else is prett...
really? control is harder for me than alt
alt you just click with thumb
warm plinth
My mount opie wheel is on the right mouse wheel and my set focus is on the button below the wheel
sleek current
I can reach control with my pinky, I can't comfortably press alt with my pinky.
warm plinth
Bro I was about to be like what the actual fuck
warm plinth
Read the entire message dawn lol
modern gazelle
oh, ctrl is hard cause i have long fingers so i gotta like bend it in a little
shift and alt are easier cause pinky sits on shift and thumb is near alt/space
round pendant
I wonder if I should switch my alt binds to capslock
I just hate using capslock as a bind in games
sleek current
Capslock! Blooming heck, the light coming on and off would drive me bonkers
round pendant
cause it toggles capslock on lmao
warm plinth
The only time I used modifiers as a normal part of my rotation is when I had the normal mouse with just the forward/back buttons on the side, and I bound forward to alt and back to ctrl
modern gazelle
cause it toggles capslock on lmao
this is why i dont use it
i only use it as map in fps
warm plinth
cause it toggles capslock on lmao
fwiw you can actually disable caps lock in the registry
round pendant
but my keyboard lets me just rebind capslock as a completely different button, like rn it's FN for me
warm plinth
And use it as a normal button
round pendant
well, it's FN when I hold it down for more than 150ms
sleek current
Tilde, which isn't a tilde for me is my heroic throw
warm plinth
Wait your caps lock is your function key?
warm plinth
Ohhh
sleek current
Z Last Stand, X Avatar, C Ravager
round pendant
Yeah I used to use tenkeyless, 60% is nice because I have so much more desk space now
I do miss my F keys sometimes, and arrow keys
arrow keys for me is hold caps and use WASD now lmao
sleek current
This is my tilde button. No idea what it is.
warm plinth
I use this keyboard https://www.razer.com/gaming-keyboards/razer-huntsman-v2-analog
sleek current
`¬
modern gazelle
for the longest time i wanted 60% or 10 keyless, but then i found out that numpad is amazing
i use it WAY more often than i used to
warm plinth
Yeah I love that shit
sleek current
Blackwidow Chroma V3. I like the numpad existing despite literally never using it.
round pendant
useless for wow but the low actuation I can set + instant depress makes my shmovement feel snappy on games
warm plinth
The customizable actuation point is awesome
round pendant
Razer make some ok stuff nowadays
modern gazelle
any other brand 👍 but razer just breaks
sleek current
I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with them. 😂
round pendant
I don't like their GAMER aesthetic tho
warm plinth
I've had it for like a year and a half. I had my black widow ultimate v2 for like 6 years and it wasn't even broken when I stopped using it.
modern gazelle
i use hyper x keyboard now but will never swap off logitech mouse
sleek current
I only replaced my V2 because I spilt water on it. Haha
warm plinth
rip lol
modern gazelle
mainly like my hyperx cause my last keyboard design was not anti spill proof and this one is lol
sleek current
I have HyperX when it comes to headsets. Never let me down
warm plinth
I spilled a glass of tea on mine and just removed all the keys and wiped everything down and let it sit out to dry and it still worked after that
sleek current
My copper on the mouse wheel wore down once but, they sent a replacement part for free.
daring marlin
WHY ARE EGGS SO GOOD ON ENGLISH MUFFINS
modern gazelle
easy to clean quiet keys area must for me
daring marlin
This shit should be illegal
warm plinth
I do miss the side keys from the black widow ultimate though
sleek current
I do miss the side keys from the black widow ultimate though
I could never find a use for the macro keys on my V2 to be honest. They felt awkward to press as well.
Might just be that I wasn't used to them though
warm plinth
I just used the top one and the middle one because they were easy to identify by touch
jagged gust
Only razer stuff that breaks for me are headsets
oh god yeah the headset was nice for a year then went kaboom. Keyboard Ive been using for like 6 years without an issue
warm plinth
I would have liked if they had some distinction to them
Also can't recommend this headset enough if you don't mind it being wired (I don't): https://www.astrogaming.com/en-us/products/headsets/pc-mac/a40-tr-mixamp-pro-bundle-gen-4.html?irclickid=xx330D0IWxyPWyCVAnRwNQcwUkFxxEwWryj5w40&utm_source=radius&utm_medium=affiliate&irgwc=1
I have an older version but it's lasted me for like 8 years. Worth every penny
Very very comfortable too
modern gazelle
astos are overpriced as fuck
sleek current
Yeah, I'm using the trinity now and it's been a banger for sure but, I am prone to not using the mouse wheel if I can avoid it now because I just don't want it to die. 😂
modern gazelle
i really want a good headset with an external mic but i hate having a mic in front of me
jagged gust
ayyy fellow sennheiser enjoyer
sleek current
I've considered getting a standalone microphone but, I can't justify the price for the sake of two raid nights a week and occassionally chatting with mates while playign Civ6. Haha
warm plinth
Over-ear right?
On-ear people worry me
I have a blue yeti but honestly iv'e never even used it. I just don't know how people have their mic not in the way
sleek current
Your earmuffs have to be square and fit over your entire ear or you shouldn't get it. 😂
warm plinth
Yeah exactly
sleek current
Nothing worse than walking away with absolute pain in the tops of your ears because they were folded.
warm plinth
On-ear hurts so fucking much
daring marlin
here I was, about to log on and do a key
until I realized helltide was about to start again
jagged gust
On-ear hurts so fucking much
I mean you get what you pay for
warm plinth
jagged gust
I can wear my senns a day straight and the only thing that would bug me is the fact that I just stayed up 24 hours playing wow
sleek current
Very true. 😂
warm plinth
My only complaint is that I'm balding so periodically I have to go through with a lint roller
sleek current
Except... It's the guilt my wife will be staring into the back of my head.
modern gazelle
On-ear people worry me
how the hell do people use on ear???
like bro that shit hurts
warm plinth
Dude idk
And they're almost all shit quality too
Like please spend more than $15 on your headset
sleek current
Wireless is the shit as well.
warm plinth
I'd rather use earbuds but those hurt my ears after a while too
sleek current
I can't go back now.
jagged gust
God i forget the names of products like 2 days after buying them lol
daring marlin
I only like wired stuff.
sleek current
At first... Yeah but, I got used to it.
warm plinth
I use wired for everything. I cba worrying about something dying
jagged gust
I built my computer from scratch and couldn't even remember what brand of motherboard i had lol
daring marlin
I'd rather use earbuds but those hurt my ears after a while too
Same here. Despite that I bought a pair of IEMs for the gym because my headset I had died.
jagged gust
obvs 😆
daring marlin
I've had loads of ear problems, especially in childhood. I gotta not be lazy and clean my ears regularly so earbuds are super bad when I'm being lazy!
sleek current
How do you clean your ears?
daring marlin
modern gazelle
I've had loads of ear problems, especially in childhood. I gotta not be lazy and...
bro same, i had my eardrum burst 5 times when i was a kid
daring marlin
I bought one of those pumps online and flush 'em.
I had 5 sets of tubes in my ears as a kid. It was fantastic.
jagged gust
I replaced my kraken with an arctic cooler recently, best choice ever.
daring marlin
drainage problems, yada yada.
sleek current
I had gromits as a kid because I had too much wax but, hasn't been an issue as an adult.
sleek current
I bought one of those pumps online and flush 'em.
That's good was worried you were sticking cotton buds in there. Haha
daring marlin
I had gromits as a kid because I had too much wax but, hasn't been an issue as a...
Same lmao. AND COTTON SWABS ARE THE DEVIL!
jagged gust
oh nice, I went with the 360 and then had to buy a new case to fit it lmao
sleek current
Same lmao. AND COTTON SWABS ARE THE DEVIL!
Indeed they are and Doctor Mike on YouTube has plenty to say about it. 😂
jagged gust
I kept going, oh I should get this, oh but this cooler i have isnt compatible with this motherboard, guess I gotta upgraaade... Then 1500 bucks later I had a second computer😆
well like 3000 if you count the GPU
fucking hell did i ever buy at the wrong time
sick sentinel
is it worth me slamming a bunch of halls keys for the ring?
modern gazelle
is it worth me slamming a bunch of halls keys for the ring?
we dont discuss that stuff here
we protect our bodies
jagged gust
prot warrior chat talking about ear issues lmao
Thunderclapping is an OSHA violation
modern gazelle
Thunderclapping is an OSHA violation
i have my sound at 20%
heroic leap is still loud af
sick sentinel
well, versa makes me live longer
kappa
Is Rend used in the prot ratation? I don't see it listed in the rotation on any guides.
sleek current
You know when Zaqali lands down... I don't know if it's me or him but, there is like 3 - 5 rapid thunderclap noises in a row. Those are too loud.
jagged gust
Is Rend used in the prot ratation? I don't see it listed in the rotation on any ...
nah bro TC applies it for you
modern gazelle
Is Rend used in the prot ratation? I don't see it listed in the rotation on any ...
thunderclap with blood and thunder talent does it
remove that and slam from your ability bar
sick sentinel
Makes sense, thank you
modern gazelle
and whirlsind
sick sentinel
cuz, what im thinking, is its a thing that can and will drop for ANY class
sleek current
I love the sound but, it's a lot of noise. 😂
SS spam is lush though. When you get like 3 resets in a row.
Mmm, love that sound.
modern gazelle
speaking of sound, whats up with big wigs having moan as an option for a sound...
sleek current
Gamers are weird mate. 🤷 Haha
It's a real struggle finding a descript sound for something in WA's. I basically always just end up back with Sonar.
modern gazelle
i had to go back to dbm i hate ALL of the sounds in big wigs
so trash
and voice is shit announcing EVERY ability
sleek current
I thought you had to have a specific voice pack for that
pastel sleet
Is 6% enough to make up for annulet?
Yeah, but will we be net weaker +(6% and ring stats) - anulet
Cool
Ty
jagged gust
Im just honestly glad I dont have to see some ugly 420 sticking out like a sore thumb
pastel sleet
I reckon i could sim it and math it out myself. You right
jagged gust
suffer is what all tanks do well
sleek current
What's this? We're getting another 6% to replace the annulet?
lusty grotto
im worried about skull dents
sleek current
I'm just lost
jagged gust
im worried about skull dents
its a good place to store nacho dip
lusty grotto
well not that worried about skull dents, more about headphones causing loss
of hair
i dont wanna turn into mwahi
im jk Mwahi ilu
jagged gust
trust me, it was gonna fall out one way or another
sleek current
Ah, cool. 6% ability damage.
jagged gust
the lies we tell ourselves
sleek current
I guess now the question is... What classes as ability damage for us. Any button that we press?
jagged gust
if you press it and it do damage
sleek current
Would that include rend despite "not" technically pressing it?
jagged gust
Would that include rend despite "not" technically pressing it?
ooh got me with the technical, but yes
sleek current
Primordial stones counts for like... a lot of my damage. 😂
12.9%. I guess we'll see.
hushed harbor
Am I crazy or did the latest update say 14% aura buff?
sleek current
We lost 5% on defensive stance though. Sad we never got it back
I use it more like a CD these days.
hushed harbor
The datamined for 10.1.5 shows 14
jagged gust
12.9%. I guess we'll see.
Like somewhere in the range of 35% of our damage is from non-abilities, so it's like a 4% overall damage boost? That just means our new rings need to make up for the other 9% damage loss 
sleek current
Like somewhere in the range of 35% of our damage is from non-abilities, so it's ...
Cheers, that's helpful. 🙂
hushed harbor
Does this or does this not say 14%
At least for the listed abilities, which I think is all of them
jagged gust
well 8+6=14
hushed harbor
Ohhhhh that’s how that’s written. The more you know 🌈
sleek current
Started a little grapnel collection
Wonder how many I can get before the season ends. 😂
torn gulch
round pendant
On-ear hurts so fucking much
I switched from expensive over-ears to expensive in-ears and I don't regret it one bit
on-ears are psycho shit
jagged gust
in ears just sorta fall out on me
round pendant
use bigger tips I guess
warm plinth
Yeah idk, in-ear just hurt me after a while; not sure. I've tried various tips and stuff and they all seem to cause discomfort after a while.
jagged gust
nah, ive tried everything, my ears are built diff'rent
warm plinth
But I usually game in like 4-6 hours stretches so could just be overuse
round pendant
I wear my earbuds for hours and hours, they were uncomfortable for like the first week I had them
but I guess my ears got used to them and now I never have any issues
red otter
Maybe a bad question but while scrolling through server history people said the talent "battle-scarred veteran" is bad. Why is that?
sleek current
It's not necessarily bad it's just not as good as other options and unless you're doing gigakeys I don't think there is much use case for it.
modern gazelle
Maybe a bad question but while scrolling through server history people said the ...
buggy and bad is all i was told xD
doesnt work like people want it to
sleek current
Oh that sounds like information I should save in my brain as well.
humble valve
Guys, one question. In order to know if an item is an upgrade do you sim it with raidbots?
warm plinth
Maybe a bad question but while scrolling through server history people said the ...
It's likely not bugged at this point, but the problem is how it works. The 30% threshold is met by pre-mitigation damage. Which means if I take a 500k hit that's mitigated down to 80k by shield block/IP/whatever, if that 500k would have brought me to sub-30%, the talent procs.
Yes.
Defensively we just care about item level over everything. So we generally just sim for damage. Survival for this spec is 99% gameplay anyway.
warm plinth
It's likely not bugged at this point, but the problem is how it works. The 30% ...
This results in the talent proccing even though your health barely moved.
sick sentinel
welp, im done with farming halls, already got the haste versa ring
last place i need to go is brackenhide, for bracers
sleek current
I got that ring in my vault today at 447.
warm plinth
yuge
red otter
It's likely not bugged at this point, but the problem is how it works. The 30% ...
Gotcha
I was comparing it to GOAK cheat death in pallys and for the life of me couldnt understand why it could be bad lol
warm plinth
Yeah if it procced like theirs then it could theoretically be useful in super high keys. But as it stands, it's completely useless because it never procs when you want it to and procs when you don't need it to
hardy snow
It's likely not bugged at this point, but the problem is how it works. The 30% ...
I would say it is bugged. Tooltip says it activates when your health drops below 30%. And its not working as per tooltip. So its a bug in my opinion.
strong forum
warm plinth
It was already "fixed" and still works like that. At this point we're pretty sure it's working how they want it to.
It's just working in a stupid way.
hardy snow
then they should correct tooltip accordingly
if skill does something different than tooltip says, its a bug imo, either in skill working or tooltip
warm plinth
They explicitly stated that the reason they added it was to make it a comfortable pick for new players who are learning. Which to me seems like they intend it that way because they're planning on it proccing for newbies that aren't using Shield Block properly.
Not that that makes it an acceptable talent because obviously it's still going to proc when they ARE using SB properly.
hardy snow
good thing this shit is at the end of the tree so we can just not take it 
warm plinth
sleek current
Whoever designed the pathing in Aberrus is an absolute turd
What do you mean "No Pathing" when I get knocked past the platform on Magmoraxx.
Also... I can't heroic leap over the water in Halls of Infusion? Absolutely sacraligious.
silk kiln
I hate how we can’t jump over the lava to get down to echo
jagged gust
It's insane how bad leap feels lately
sleek current
I hate how we can’t jump over the lava to get down to echo
Yeah man! Just jump to the bottom!
silk kiln
Oh now I’m swimming at the bottom of lava
sleek current
It's insane how bad leap feels lately
For real
modern gazelle
meanwhile i found out htat on the final boss in freehold you can jump from the left side wooden platform all the way back to the bridge, it will bug the boss for 5s or so and tp you back
so clearly they arent consistent with "no path"
sleek current
Pathing was the absolute shit in BFA, I could Heroic Leap all the way up a mountain mate.
jagged gust
just another thing i miss about bfa
never thought id say that
leap pathing and dragonflight have the wonkiest pathing mechanics
sleek current
Honestly mate. 😂 Now if I can heroic leap up something I'm flabbergasted.
sick sentinel
7000 raw haste with a phail buff and weapon consumable
warm plinth
Why are you still getting more haste dude lol
fresh igloo
Mix it up with some crit!
jagged gust
dont stop the haste, I wanna see you schmoove
warm plinth
You hit the 20% DR going above 39%. You're just wasting secondaries at this point.
sick sentinel
normal equipped set i have 6556
sleek current
No idea where you're getting it all from. 😂
I'm at 35% without Into the Fray and I have Haste on every piece.
warm plinth
I think he has engi bracers
sick sentinel
food buff haste, weapon buff haste, RNG 1 of 4 for 1 minute of X haste (550 at rank 1) chaos phials
sick sentinel
which is the main stat food again
warm plinth
deviled eggs
sick sentinel
isnt it expensive compared to the others
sleek current
No idea, if I have main stat food it's the feast. 😄
sick sentinel
i go for main stat or 105 stat buff food if its provided
sleek current
Yusa's Hearty Stew? Maybe
sick sentinel
but i dn't go out of my way to get beyond basic food buff
warm plinth
Feasts are still more expensive than deviled eggs
modern gazelle
dude timewalking dungeons are nuts wtf
boosting my friend up through them right now and i can clear a dungeon in like 5min just pulling everything
sick sentinel
whats the deal then? are the deviled eggs less stat? i know its singular buff
sick sentinel
costs more?
warm plinth
I just said it doesn't 🤦♂️
sick sentinel
700 gold for 100, so i'll use them 100 times and if i like them, keep using them
sleek current
RIP
warm plinth
pretty sure kalu'ak feasts rn are like 200g
sleek current
Honestly, I'm hoping for some more physical bosses in the next raid. Experiements has me crying inside and out.
Yeah, we're on wipe 28, I think.
sick sentinel
well you guys know me, im more about the dungeon and world aspect
raid is big and scary to me
pvp is dumb
warm plinth
Yusa's is terrible. It gives you 70 to your lowest secondary.
sleek current
The room is absolute chaos, I can barely see my cotank and sometimes we get unlucky and accidentally double stack because we get hit as we're crossing each other.
I think I'm going to turn on that raid outline but, I'm not sure if it works for my raid mates
I've got the cross mark on him because it's the highest contrast for the room and I'm still struggling. 😂 I'll see if I can agree something with the RL for owning a space.
Yeah, I quickly banged out a WA for the stack count next to the co-tank WA
He was a Paladin but, I think he's full committed to DH now.
Yeah, he takes the lions share of the stacks if we can dance it that way
That's about how it's fallen, aye.
warm plinth
Make sure to have numbing poison/curse of weakness or w/e it's called, etc
sleek current
We're very close to a kill, so looking forward to just moving on either way. Haha
warm plinth
Helps reduce stacks
warm plinth
Think DK has something that does it too, but I can't remember the name of it
sleek current
I haven't been running spell block, when I checked the spreadsheet it was basically two abilities I can just avoid in the first place
Thanks for the tips
Big for the Curse of Weakness, completely forgot about that
sleek current
Sorry was doing a quick dungeon on my Paladin.
Only a little prayer, you say? 😂
I suppose I'll see. It's been a real struggle keeping IP up with experiements and Kazzarra was a little shitty initially while I was getting used to the fight.
twin bramble
can some1 please help me understand how getting out of sheep works in bracken 1st boss? do i need a dispell? do they need to kill totem? both?
sleek current
So...
Gash saps you, trick does something to healer, big dude charges
Destroy totem to free healer, healer dispells you, you stand infront of charge
twin bramble
got it. thank you!
sleek current
No worries. 🙂
warm plinth
I believe you can also spell reflect the blind
bitter schooner
dusky canopy
Damn boys did the goblin event end?
solar rivet
Hey so when i have avatar popped and haste buffs make it so I can thunder clap on GCD, should I be doing so?
warm plinth
You can't cast thunder clap on GCD
It will always be every other GCD because the GCD decreases at the same rate the cooldown does.
solar rivet
Is every source of damage reduction multiplicative?
Like Block + Ignore Pain + Shield Wall
mighty valley
yeah, no 100% DR sadly
solar rivet
- Armor as well I suppose
so an attack doing 100,000 base damage, -50% armor
now 50,000, then shield wall -50%
25,000, then 50% block
12,500, then Ignore Pain 50%
6,000 damage?
Did I math that correctly or does it not work like that?
warm plinth
Like Block + Ignore Pain + Shield Wall
It does not work like that. And Ignore Pain is not calculated in that because it's not a DR; it's an absorb.
Ignore Pain will always reduce the remaining damage by 50% up to its current shield amount.
solar rivet
so if it were 20,000 damage after all other DRs, would ignore pain make it 10,000 effective hit point damage taken?
warm plinth
Yes, as long as you had 10k absorb available from IP
solar rivet
Ok, so the absorb also is counting post DR damage?
warm plinth
Yes absorbs always happen last in the calculation
solar rivet
Awesome, thanks
So my ignore pain shouldnt instantly get its absorb stripped if DRs are active
mighty valley
unless the hit is just that big
warm plinth
Well, depends on what you're taking damage-wise.
Like you're not gonna reduce a non-blockable 500k hit to 20k
mighty valley
with tier set you should be using last stand on CD
warm plinth
With tier, you should be using LS on CD
solar rivet
or are there scenarios were you just need that HP buffer
mighty valley
rally is usually for big full group damage events
warm plinth
Once the effect ends, you lose the HP it gave you.
solar rivet
Ah well I havent actually seen what tier even is yet
sleek current
You don't lose the HP it gave you
solar rivet
I always understood it as raising your max HP and then healing you for the HP gained afterwards
So only LS works that way?
warm plinth
It's worded that way in the tooltip but it's not actually how it works.
Yes, LS works that way
mighty valley
rally gives your healer breathing room to prevent the squad from dying, then they top everyone off when things after the big damage is over
lilac sandal
What’s the best way to not get absolutely clapped by Rashok? I feel like the tank combo hits me like a truck and if I don’t have a full ignore pain and shield block up in d stance I die
mighty valley
it can be an absolute "i will die if i don't press anything" last resort though
warm plinth
Yeah might buy you a little time for the healer to wake up at least
solar rivet
just read tier bonus, wow thats nuts
Does that 5% reduced damage they deal stack with multiple slams within 5 sec?
warm plinth
I actually don't know, but I doubt it. More likely just refreshes it.
crude notch
Usually things that stack say they stack.
solar rivet
Now does the 15-30% increased slam damage also affect the "wave of force" from the 4 set?
warm plinth
No, the wave and SS are not in any way related other than that SS triggers the wave.
solar rivet
Gotcha
warm plinth
They're completely separate sources of damage
In logs I believe it's called like earthen smash
With the buff it gives called Earthen Tenacity
It is grouped with SS in logs though (click the little down arrow next to SS to see the breakdown). Not sure why.
mighty valley
we're big fans here
solar rivet
Shocker
Super eager to get that 2 set rolling soon, new revival catalyst should let me have it by next week
Another big damage CD to work in the rotation
Do people just macro LS with Avatar since its not on GCD?
sleek current
Nah
mighty valley
nah I don't macro anything
sleek current
The cooldown could and will likely be at wildly varying times
Don't Macro them together.
solar rivet
Maybe I just macro it to thunderclap
hushed cobalt
Can't find sith Kermit "do it" meme
mighty valley
macro whirlwind to slam
solar rivet
I've macro'd ignore pain and shield block into a couple buttons that give me a big surge of rage 🤐
sleek current
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
/cast [mod] Ravager
/cast [nomod, @player]Ravager
These are the only macro's I use, you can macro IP to SS as well to grab SS Proc snipes.
I think you have to put SS second
solar rivet
Ignore pain to shield slam you say? Is it just instant reset sometimes?
mighty valley
since it can reset off devastator auto attacks, it can randomly happen immediately after cast sometimes
sleek current
It's just so you can snipe some SS procs instead of having to press another button, sometimes they come up at the same time saves you a small amount of time. 🙂
solar rivet
Ignore pain I feel I'm pressing so often just to rage dump as fast as possible lol, I shouldve bound it to a more convenient button
sleek current
Yeah, that'd be a good idea.
solar rivet
I have a weak aura I made that screams at me when I'm rage capped
been very good at teaching me
sleek current
Oh, that'll flip. You'll want a weakaura that screams at you for wasting rage on a shit cast of IP when you wanted Shield Block. 😂
solar rivet
I've got 2 bars I made that constantly show my IP and SB uptime, that helps me a lot too
Never let the bars fall and I never die ez
mighty valley
a weakaura that thinks several GCDs ahead for you to figure out how long you have to burn you rage down to to avoid overcapping in the first place
solar rivet
All in all prot warrior I think has surpassed my former evoker main. This is the first time I've played WoW seriously since MoP
sleek current
Chicken with dragon wings that mate
sleek current
Hahaha
solar rivet
I've only had a level 70 warrior for about 12 hours, but I knew it was destiny when my first pieces of 400+ ilvl gear were a weapon and a shield
sleek current
On that note... Just full send a 447 shield.
solar rivet
```#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
```
```#showto...
The moment I unlocked ravager I put it on a primarily self cast macro lol
sleek current
Honestly, I can't be arsed with all that placing it down nonsense, mouseover or not. 😂
solar rivet
I'm already in the middle of all of them
sleek current
Yeah, exactly. There are a few good use cases but... Zug Zug
sleek current
I use a weakaura that puts a circle on my mouse so I don't lose it because I camera strafe.
solar rivet
I forgot you could attach things to your mouse with WA... maybe I should put my taunt and interrupt CDs on there...
kind urchin
I got this sweet crosshair wa for my mouse from a guildie.
solar rivet
Just stuck all these to my mouse 
modern gazelle
```#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
```
```#showto...
why not ravager at cursor
/cast ravager [@cursor]
solar rivet
because aiming
proper roost
Yeah but who asked
be nice
modern gazelle
yeah but sometimes you want to put it further away
solar rivet
No I dont think I do want to put it farther away
mighty valley
but you can throw it down before charging into a pack
mighty valley
warriors who want to save a gcd on the pull
given that we have a billion buttons to press in sequence
sleek current
Zug Zug
solar rivet
Are you supposed to alternate thunder claps between the big opener buttons after popping avatar/demo shout?
pallid quiver
also it helps when you have hunting havoc children to get threat since the first thing you do is actual damage
solar rivet
Or just press all the big damage CDs and then do thudner claps
mighty valley
CDs first then normal prio
solar rivet
Gothca, I've been making it harder/worse for myself for no reason
pallid quiver
otherwise you can not get full value from the press/miss casts through fight/instance
cinder nova
FUCK THAT ENTIRE ENCOUNTER
sleek current
Congrats mate
Currently progging that myself and I don't enjoy it. We're only 28 wipes in though. Apparently it's a 40 pull boss. We're pretty close as well, so expect to have it down on Monday
cinder nova
I'd honestly rather eat my shoes than deal with that shit. Actually terrible boss design to just leave warrior out in the cold with 3 heavy magic DOT fights
proper roost
grats, rashok is easy to tank
cinder nova
At least M Kazz you can block
cinder nova
We might have a BDK just tank with the pal so I can roll my face in the bombs
sleek current
3? Where's the third?
proper roost
"easy"
cinder nova
M Kazz is a fuckload of magic damage, but of the total 3 (zskarn, exp, kazz) it's blockable.
Exp has blockable stuff, but not being able to block the dot is miserable
solar rivet
I'm so proud of myself for putting spell-reflect right beside my kicks on my mouse-attached WA
solar rivet
cause like, I'm already looking at the cast bars, so its good to see if I could just reflect it too
its like a little swiss army knife right on the mouse cursor ready for whatever
I dont think i can go back to evoker. That class just feels so... simple in comparison
4 buttons
6 if youre sweaty
cinder marsh
hey yall, do yall got any sugestions for twitch streamers or even youtubers that i should look at for prot warr mythic plus guides?
proper roost
i think sense streams occasionally
cinder marsh
is " sense " the twitch streamer?
noble shard
Hey all,
Having a debate among guildies and friends, so asking for the discord opinion.
- i have 5 piece with hands as nonheroic
- im mostly an m+ player, and i pug heroic aberus
- sims have pointed to gloves.
- current trinks are normal anchor and hero dargrul
votes have been going to anvil so far due to difficulty in getting them in pugs, and scoring high in prot and will probably never unequip.
444 gloves will get me better "endgame" due to 10.1.5's upgradeability and good on fury, but not the highest allocation of stats in terms of gearslot, and higher chance of getting more 444-447 items along the way for catalyzing given i comfortably do 18s and eventually 20s.
thoughts?
thanks in advance 🙂
warm plinth
I would probably stick with the trinkets you have. Anvil needs ramp up time and if you leave combat for more than a few seconds, you lose your stacks. Makes it annoying to use in M+ unless you're chain pulling like mad
toxic pewter
what do you guys do when you feel burnt out
cinder marsh
try out another class
toxic pewter
yeah hmm
cinder marsh
db4 si out
toxic pewter
yeah i think its time for that for me
proper roost
i took like a two week break from keys and it's been pretty fine. still in my break period i think
toxic pewter
my guild has ceased mythic because of attendance and people leaving
proper roost
alting was really fun for me, tbh
cinder marsh
a guild needs alot of communication and dedication to work out
most guilds dont make it
cinder marsh
im a gm and building a mythic plus team
toxic pewter
yah guilds are tough
proper roost
and i got to heal seriously for the first time since cata, was very enjoyable to finally heal keys
toxic pewter
yah maybe i will play my r sham a bit
proper roost
later this tier i think i'm gonna alt a non pwar tank
toxic pewter
ive always enjoyed it