protection

[craggy pilot]

and nothing will drop

also my Rings have socket, so they outsim almost all 441 rings 😄

at least the HC Diurna does

[crystal mauve]

Those trinket and rings are so sadge lol

[uneven mason]

I mean - they're not THAT sadage

[crystal mauve]

You should get Annulet as 2ring btw

[crystal mauve]

It’s your BiS and take 1h to farm

[craggy pilot]

idk man farmed it on my Paladin and cba to do it on here

[crystal mauve]

Thé 431 flask you have should sim well, no?

[craggy pilot]

sims well in AOE

not so well in ST

so idk if i wanna invest in it

its on a "maybe" for me currently

[uneven mason]

call to chaos is spotty as fuck for uptime

15% to 30% in raid lastnight

[crystal mauve]

Oh you are looking for raid trinkets? You can get the mark of Dargrul is really solid

[craggy pilot]

been spamming Lair bro

😄

last season i did 80+ COS before i got whetstone

dont wanna do that shit again

[crude notch]

lol nielsen

[craggy pilot]

so guess im just gonna be happy with shit trinkets

[crystal mauve]

From what I’ve seen it’s exactly the average other people have too

At least you have an excuse if your numbers are shit lol

[crude notch]

I mean you can boost it to 428 for discounted flightstones and nothing else.

[craggy pilot]

which we talking about now?

[crude notch]

The one you were tlaking about where I responded 🙂

[craggy pilot]

Vial is alrdy 431 tho

wdym 428 then

xD

i never said any name

you said Flask

[crude notch]

I didn't say shit my guy

Dadou did

lol

smdh

back to farming NL for you

[craggy pilot]

oh ye

🤣

or i just wear Festering Splinter and do poopy dmg but never die

[crude notch]

If it makes you feel any better I got Mark of Dragrul first try on my Warrior earlier

[craggy pilot]

i got Mark of Dargrul on my paladin

and Anvil

and Forgestorm

💔

[crude notch]

Oh and I have grapnel on my warrior too

[craggy pilot]

i was so happy when i saw 97 roll on Bacon

i was so sure it was in my bag

[crude notch]

are you 4p at least?

[craggy pilot]

im so mad at that noob evoker who stole it

[craggy pilot]

ye thx to the 2k token

not the best setup, i still need the helmet

[crude notch]

Yeah my pwar literally started gearing this week and if I get tier in my vault I'll have 4p on Tuesday

[craggy pilot]

i think best to replace is Legs no?

[craggy pilot]

nice

i took socket 2 weeks in a row now

got only capes

[crude notch]

How disappointing that's not in faq

You raid and M+ and you're only getting cloaks?

[craggy pilot]

it likely depends on what other stats you have

[craggy pilot]

mainly m+

lemme try to find picture of my vault

[crude notch]

not at all

There's gonna be a defacto piece you'll drop for sure

[craggy pilot]

this week

[crude notch]

Is there a slot that's vers/mast? that's probably what you'll drop.

[craggy pilot]

last week

was actually tempted to take the 441 2h 🤣

[crude notch]

Is your current weapon 441?

Nope

Could've been a free upgrade

[craggy pilot]

437 Forgestorm

[craggy pilot]

huh?

its Arms wep bro

[crude notch]

yes

[craggy pilot]

i dont play Arms 😄

[crude notch]

2H unlocks 1h+oh

[craggy pilot]

my Forgestorm is 8/8 Champion

cant be upgraded

[crude notch]

I'm saying the next forgestorm you got could've been upgraded to 441 without the aspect

[craggy pilot]

i have enough aspects crests

[crude notch]

AND you don't have annulet

wtf

bracers not enchanted smdh

[craggy pilot]

oh fuck youre right 😄

i just crafted them yesterday haha

[crude notch]

I have all my sparks rn on my warrior waiting until vault before I start crafting things.

Get a non-helm non-chest tier piece on Tuesday from vault and I can slam 447 Shadowflame chest piece.

[craggy pilot]

made my Frostfire belt 447 🙂

now all my focus is rings/trinkets, and vault

and just waiting for my guildie to come back to make STR gem for my neck

or should probably put Str gem in my Belt 🤔

[crude notch]

Slamming 4 crafted pieces on Tuesday will feel great

[quiet minnow]

Could also make haste trinket

If you have plenty of sockets

Which you do

[crude notch]

does he?

[quiet minnow]

Only one he’s missing is helm

Belt, both rings, wrist

Would be 36 ilvl increase in str and a pretty considerable haste boost

[waxen vale]

I got 2 dope weapons with avoidance/speed so i tried going fury and did 36k in nelth lair

Tbf fair tho i was dead half the time. Not usually my fsult

Terrible tank doing bad pulls and swinging frontals around and bad heals

[crude notch]

you're quite the piece of work debit

[waxen vale]

I'm not lying

Definitely was eye opening seeing boss 1 though from a melee dps perspective

He made sure to cover the entire platform with sht

Just cuz of that boss allone i assume u never want more than 1 mele dps

[crude notch]

Do you know how first boss works?

[night scroll]

Make sure to seize on the purple dance floor

[waxen vale]

Yea ofc i know, kill adds

Have you ever tried that as a melee dps

When i tank it i try to get as many as possible to die under boss then move him so theres always space

But even so its probably hard to for melee to swap

[sick sentinel]

no idea why, but monk said they get 5 fps on evry boss in vp

so he flopped and now that key did a big flop

[waxen vale]

that sucks

i have a shitty laptop and the only part of DF dungeons I drop frames heavily is the gauntlet in halls

ig altarius can be a big choppy

and 1st boss a bit

[sick sentinel]

mostly farming for champion gear and wyrm crests, but i want heart and X (talisman or ???) , also gloves, chest, better cloak

[craggy pilot]

its not very good

🤣

[night heron]

Hello! I was wondering if for 23 and above tyrannical keys it'd be worth taking ST Onyx annulet instead of a 441 M+ ring, just for the additionnal damage on bosses?

[waxen vale]

if you like looking at your ILVL and seeing it be trash

xd

i just use a 447 and its better in all cases than annulet

[sick sentinel]

Would you guys rock anchor or dargul with OCE on m+

Feel like the str on anchor and burst AOE is better than darguls procs

[quiet minnow]

I like anchor for certain ones like vp and bh a lot

Big prio damage

[sick sentinel]

i wonder whats worse trinket..... 437 signoll or 437 spore pods, i have both

[waxen vale]

prob pods

pods is kind of a defensive trinket though not bad in that regard

[sick sentinel]

both seem equally as bad, need heart of thunder or anvil

[waxen vale]

heart of thunder is trash too

[dusky canopy]

Yo guys for the diablo event in wow do i just run around any major city?

[sick sentinel]

i even saw one in the open world

showed up in plains

[waxen vale]

dargruols may sim higher, but a lot of the time the landslide happens at bad moments

so in reality i think using anchor well gives u more dps

and priority as noted

and of course strength

[sick sentinel]

grapnel?

[waxen vale]

yea

[sick sentinel]

i don't know if i want the boat anchor or not

[quiet minnow]

call to chaos works for tc only?

or rather, which abilities does it all work with

[fresh igloo]

Grapnel and anvil are my usual trinkets of choice.

[craggy pilot]

honestly this season seems really bad for trinkets 🤔

very few good ones

[waxen vale]

thats pretty unpopular opinion

id say

[left basalt]

It’s not

[waxen vale]

maybe its simming wrong then

[left basalt]

It is

Usually 6-7% of damage done in 16+

[waxen vale]

thts vs cragshaper

but ig its wrong

i dont have a dps trink yet on warr

so ig id take it

[night heron]

I have 441 bis rings and in pure ST they're worse than Annulet; that's why we still use annulet in raid on ST as well I think

[waxen vale]

but do u have socketed 447

of good stats

i think that might beat annulet

like wyrm matron or nelth ring mythic

[night heron]

Yeah I'll have to check it out, but the 447 items i got from vault were not ring so far :/

[frosty mist]

damn, got an 1h axe 441 in the last vault and now I'm droping forgestorm in +16 (437 max), it's still a upgrade but why droping now 😢

[tired girder]

Rng Blizzard.
My theory is that this RNG is not a RNG at All.

[sick sentinel]

TL;DR rng aka peusdo RNG is not RNG at all like you say

[timber nest]

prot warrior builds still the same?

[sick sentinel]

but, for the vast vast majority of cases iits used in, never becomes an issue.

haha

[tender carbon]

Hey guys, I love prot, still in baby keys, but enjoy tank and dps - is allied wrist guards + shadowflame patch a decent combo for prot and/or fury?

[nocturne spindle]

double shadowflame is better

[dusky mica]

https://www.wowhead.com/today-in-wow will show where the goblin will be.

[dusky canopy]

Found it but thanks!

[strong forum]

boblins still spawn?

[dusky mica]

yeah they added a week to it I think

Greedy Emissary event will be active from May 25, 2023 at 10:00 AM to June 14, 2023 at 10:00 AM

[toxic pewter]

Grats

[sick sentinel]

gunna be able to start looting in fury soon

[dusky mica]

shouldn't play with All the things active tbh, it murders your fps!

[sick sentinel]

but it makes the noise when i collect a thing.....

[dusky mica]

the hearthstone loot addon is better for that tbh

[sick sentinel]

i dunno, i only ever known this addon

700 some versa after i pump it to 437, only 597, not even 600, weak.

[dusky mica]

what's your other trinket going to be?

[sick sentinel]

i have these for current trinkets

top row all but treemouth is 437, treemouth is 424 veteran

[torn gulch]

upgrade treemouth asap

and play treemouth and heart

then try to get mark

the rest is noise more or less

[sick sentinel]

is heart of thunder good or baad lol

ive seen people say either

[torn gulch]

decent

it slightly worse because of vers instead of strenght

[sick sentinel]

it calms the pug brain

because versa reduces dmg which is a tank thing

its dumb, but some of them think that way

[torn gulch]

versa is way too overrated

some people still live in the bfa days

of 100% vers

[sick sentinel]

had a set of gear in bfa that was like 15% avoidance

[torn gulch]

20% leech 100% vers or 20% leech and tier 7 twilight dev

corruption post vendor was actually fun

[hardy snow]

vers is beter for raid, crit is better for M+

but difference isnt big

[sick sentinel]

twilight devestation needs to remain locked up forever now

it was way too much overpowered

[torn gulch]

full blood dk raid with full twilight dev

did all the wayto carapace

broken

on mythic

and the hp essence

[restive scroll]

Alchemical flavor pocket still does not adds an embelishment, right ?
(So I could have shadowflame + belt + Alchemical flavor pocket)

[fresh igloo]

yes

[restive scroll]

Neat, thanks !

[loud cave]

Is there a best loot spec to use?

[mighty valley]

usually depends on the trinkets you're looking for from a dungeon

and whether you're still looking for a shield if you haven't crafted one

[sick sentinel]

vial of blood vs fragment?

equal ilvl probably 437 for me

[rustic latch]

hey are you guys still using the lariat?

[fresh igloo]

nope

[rustic latch]

what did you go with instead of the lariat?

[fresh igloo]

you probably want shadowflame x2 or shadowflame+ unstable frostfire belt

[rustic latch]

what you mean shadowflame x2?

you just talking about the patch?

[fresh igloo]

two embellishments

[timid thicket]

Got absolute shit in my vault but I gör beacon from weekly quests so I'm happy again

[fresh igloo]

of the shadowflame armor patch

[timid thicket]

Next week is spark week again right?

[rustic latch]

still trying to decide which neck to hunt down lol

[sick sentinel]

so, we are gunna be spending a long time in lair because there is 3 trinkets there, 2 of which are pretty good i undestand

[restive scroll]

Yes

[restive scroll]

I'm pondering whether a craft one might make sense

[modern gazelle]

Is there a guide for talent swaps? Trying to get better at swapping based on dungeons

[mortal brook]

wowhead should have separate builds for each dungeon

[jagged pier]

i mean theres 2 dungeons u want Spell block and thats nels and ulda

and the talents for the rest and which talents to swap out for spell block are in the pins

apart from that all that talents dont really change dungeon to dungeon

we have no space to allow variance really

[modern gazelle]

Anything for nelth lair?

[jagged pier]

well u can take spell block if u want there

it can help but literally only for sunders that u dont spell reflect

[modern gazelle]

Okay thanks

[rustic latch]

i know we can only have 2 embelishments but is there a cap on crafted gear?

[vocal nimbus]

No

The cap are the sparks

Is*

Or are

Hm

[modern gazelle]

Neck is 3rd crafted piece worth using right

[vocal nimbus]

Depends on your gear

[rustic latch]

i have a 437 crest from the quest and my old lariat is my lowest piece right now i might just upgrade the lariat for now my next aspect is gonna be going towards the belt

[jagged pier]

ull need a spark to do that

please dont waste a spark on lariat

[rustic latch]

yeah didnt think about that lol

[vocal nimbus]

My sparks are shadowflame patch shield, frostfire belt and non lariat neck if that helps you

[rustic latch]

which shield did you go with?

[restive scroll]

regualr stats

[modern gazelle]

Primal defender

[sick sentinel]

Does the crafted shield count as embellishment?

[modern gazelle]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

Is it better than double shadowflame patch

[modern gazelle]

Put shadow armor embellish

No you craft the shield with shadow flame patch

[jagged pier]

there are 3 shields 2 of them count as embleishments

u want to craft primal molten defender

u dont need to put anything on it if u dont want to u can put armour patch somewhere else

[sick sentinel]

I have two crafted armor pieces already

With shadowflame

[modern gazelle]

Then just do shield without embellish

[sick sentinel]

Okay cool

[modern gazelle]

Primal molten defender

[sick sentinel]

Cant decide of shield or ring

Titanic signet

[modern gazelle]

Shield 100%

[sick sentinel]

You guys just go crit haste on shield?

[modern gazelle]

It’s BiS outside 1 other shield I think

[rain yew]

Does avatar+ demo shout buff spell reflect damage?

[jagged pier]

no

[modern gazelle]

I did crit haste. Think haste vers is also good

[lyric compass]

are you meant to run beacon alongside another on-use trinket? got beacon and grapple rn

[jagged pier]

if anything demo will reduce its damage as u reduce the damage the mob is doing

so the spell will be less

[sick sentinel]

I have a 437 crit haste nelth shield rn

[jagged pier]

yer thats fine

[rain yew]

Thanks Jakey

[lyric compass]

do people macro them into a castsequence thing? or just 2 different buttons

[jagged pier]

crit haste shield yer and the only other shield that is better is the 450 version from nels

[jagged pier]

2 buttons

[sick sentinel]

Ah i see

[modern gazelle]

What’s everyone thoughts on ward of faceless ire? I got it as my first 437 item from doing 4 mythic dungeons quest and love it but wondering if anyone else uses it

[jagged pier]

u use it if u need it, its a defensive trinket

if playing correctly u wont need it outside of high keys

[modern gazelle]

I like it for saving party members a lot of the time

Rather than myself

[jagged pier]

if thats why your using it then thats bad

[modern gazelle]

I mean I like it on myself too but it’s clutch when someone messes up and or something

[frosty mist]

Question, brutal vitality or fueled by violence ? Is kinda the same ?

[warm plinth]

BrV is still recommended.

[frosty mist]

ok

[oblique quarry]

Ngl, i meta chased and went back to my paladin. Ran some keys last night and was averaging the same dps as my pally 30 item levels lower. These buffs feel very substantial

[loud cave]

I must be messing up my DPS rotation because I seem to have trouble cracking 30k DPS at ilvl 392.

[toxic pewter]

just ripped aggro off bdk on first boss heroic

raid wipe

[vocal nimbus]

Thats usual

[proper roost]

This is an extremely bad opportunity cost for a tank

and you should never make this trade

[novel cloak]

are best m+ boots still the UR ones?

sometihng flora stompers?

[toxic pewter]

i just crafted some boots

[mellow bridge]

it's literally not lmao

it's one of the best things you could do on tyrannical weeks

[strong forum]

for push keys its good

but for your rnd weekly key

its quite whack

[proper roost]

just use the partywide 250k shield wq trinket that surely won't be nerfed

[torn gulch]

what?

[torn gulch]

i looked in the entire wowhead database what trinket is that?

[proper roost]

It will be nerfed insanely quickly and doesn't matter

Chill

that was my joke ty

(I also have a vested interest in abusing it this week ty)

[waxen vale]

what is like our ideal comp? I assume it has a monk dps for debuff, and a lot of physical dam

[craggy pilot]

on last boss Nelth, do you kill the add or no?

[waxen vale]

no

just stun

[proper roost]

You mostly just care about windfury's existence. MW and WW aren't very good in keys generally and also not very popular anyway

a universal ideal comp isn't a thing it's different per dungeon and the pwar or not is extremely irrelevant

And also giga pipe dream to even think you'd be recruiting a perfect 4 stack for the warrior

[waxen vale]

i thought that A enhancedoesnt use windfury in dungeons and B nextback for example neverh as one

[proper roost]

The best key groups in the world settle for suboptimal comps

Just play the game

[waxen vale]

that is part of the game tho

i enjoy making comps

its part of strategy

[graceful kite]

trash?

[waxen vale]

trash

ill even go so far as to say compared to cragshaper it' gigatrash

barely does any damage for twice the CD

and basically does the same thign

is what this random enhance told me true thoe that they dont drop windfury anymore

[craggy pilot]

on last boss Nelth is it beneficial to save lust for shield bonus?

[mighty valley]

you gotta be more specific than "nelth" this season

[craggy pilot]

neltharus

and did they fix the picking up 2 items?

[mighty valley]

she gets a % vulnerability right? i'd slam lust then, sure

[craggy pilot]

im playing 1 key on this boss in Arms, and cant get fucking past this boss

+16min on +18 now

[mighty valley]

what's killing you, is no one else throwing a weapon

if you have a curse cleanse, and people pre-grab weapons, the fight should be pretty controlled

[craggy pilot]

were just straight dying to shield every time

[sick sentinel]

first boss of lair, add has to die, but i have to taunt it? and go to it and attack it? or no? let dps kill it, but only after i taunt?

[craggy pilot]

does the curse do a lot of dmg?

like 10k pr sec?

[mighty valley]

people can pre-cast and move while casting

if people are dying during shield they're straight up not paying attention

the curse used to be real bad but i think it got nerfed

still good to check in with the healer how it's feeling

and stagger out weapon pickups

[craggy pilot]

that and the periodic dmg

[mighty valley]

the shield phase can last such a short time

[sullen gust]

I find that taunting them helps, it's harder to ignore when they're all in cleave radius for dps. And as a tip, each add spawns after 5% of boss health. So you can know when one is about to spawn or if you need to stop doing boss dps to avoid another spawn during shatter for example

[hazy bronze]

Some people don't know you can move while casting and get stuck in a swirlie I've noticed

[craggy pilot]

yea if all know how to precast

we have someone running away from mob at the same time 😄

[mighty valley]

the add? it moves like a snail

slow it, cc it, it dies to cleave

[craggy pilot]

we have only 1 ranged

boomie druid

2 arms warr

[sullen gust]

Oh and don't run to the mob, just heroic throw and taunt it. If you spin the boss round and it casts the frontal, everyone gets big sad. Just face him into a wall, and if you need to reposition it back out, do it right after the frontal so you have time

[craggy pilot]

the amount of swirleys

even if the shield just lasts 5 second

i hate when i get the item that is a "place this circle"

and i have no idea 🤣

and trying to precast the item

and having no idea if i did it too early or if i actually hit it 🤣

fuck man

and isnt the casttime of the spell based on haste as well?

so i cant even tell when to precast it

[mental scarab]

You pop it 2/3 of the cast when he does the shield

And be a Good tank and take 2

[ember tangle]

the wand is quick

the flower is around your char so you gotta be close

[proper roost]

the first s2 weakaura I got was a neltharus treasure one

[ember tangle]

the blueish thingy is a charge

[proper roost]

https://wago.io/aXzrjMVKw

🤷

pretty easy to fix the "idk what treasure i got" problem

if u literally think that ONE TIME you should immediately get a weakaura for that thing right after the dungeon

[ember tangle]

imo they should have removed the charge instead of the boots

[proper roost]

and considering that boss is the last boss kinda no excuse not to remember to get it

the actual reason they removed the boots is because of the bug where it didn't go away lol

[ember tangle]

oh lol

[proper roost]

just were too lazy to fix it

[ember tangle]

it was quite a bit of visual clutter tbf

but the charge can be suicidal at times

especially if you precast it

[craggy pilot]

when you list a Lair

[urban portal]

take me

[sick sentinel]

i ran a lair 12

but i got the shit ring

[craggy pilot]

you in there? 😄

[crude notch]

I've never not known what items I have on last boss of Nelth then again I've also always gotten the proper WA package for the season before doing my first key.

[sick sentinel]

what is in there that dps warriors are after?

[craggy pilot]

when i had the wand i felt like "wait what the fuck, did anything happen? did i shoot my weapon?"

every single time

[urban portal]

i can be

[craggy pilot]

dont wanna clutter my screen with massive WA packages, would rather just get them when i need them

but ye this is a massive "holy shit how did they make a boss like this" spot

[crude notch]

Dargrul

[craggy pilot]

where you definately need a WA

[atomic nest]

I grab like 3 treasures because I don’t trust my group

Lol

[crude notch]

"clutter"?

[modern gazelle]

im confused on why we have to get rid of punish or bloodsurge for spell block if all you have to do is swap out the tough as nails?

[craggy pilot]

i did grab 3 treasures, they were all the same so overwrote everything

so i still had only 1 😄

[sick sentinel]

15 VP if i decide to try that in my bags, we ee really.

[atomic nest]

I never found it if you have 3 of same does it all count as one or 3 total

[strong forum]

you dont run tough as nails tho

[crude notch]

You don't have tough as nails in the build from the pins

[craggy pilot]

they dont stack

[sick sentinel]

i want to collect W crests to gear up some

[craggy pilot]

why do you have Tough as Nails? 🤔

[sick sentinel]

hes probably using a season 1 guide

[modern gazelle]

thats what i had from the build from icy veins/quazii, i don thave bolster cause i dont have tier set

[hazy bronze]

Yeah then you just swap tough as nails

[craggy pilot]

ah so you have the S1 build 🙂 ye then just swap it

[modern gazelle]

k

[toxic pewter]

some say I am tough as nails

[crude notch]

No one says that

[sick sentinel]

soon 0gold repair costs 🙂

[toxic pewter]

true

[sick sentinel]

blacksmithing over powered fight me

[oblique quarry]

bruh, i forgot i could repair for free

thank you

[toxic pewter]

wat u mean

[sick sentinel]

i hope in 10.2 10.3 they make a QOL change that you craft a purple versino and it repairs equipped gear one swing

[toxic pewter]

wait what can blacksmith do for repairs

[crude notch]

He gets free repairs because he's black

Smithing

[sick sentinel]

master's hammer + a shit load of points into armor knowledge

[toxic pewter]

lol wtf

[sick sentinel]

You guys build for dps over survivability?

[toxic pewter]

how did I never hear about that

[crude notch]

Irony of me saying "black" then the next non regular to talk is someone with a trump pfp

[ember tangle]

yes

[sick sentinel]

the only down side is it take a blllion points

weapoons, is a bit of a turd, cuz, if i get a sword say

i need to get alllllllll those points into swords

I just swapped like 10% vers for 15% crit on my gear

Feels counter intuitive

[mighty valley]

crit rules

[long chasm]

Vers is boring

[quiet minnow]

ran nelth call to chaos in a 18bh ended up with 30% uptime for 2381 str-- comes to like 714str and 616 crit at 444 if you include the out of combat t ime into the calc

more like prob 730-750 or so str if you take out the key downtime

kinda worth?

cant decide

ripped about 92k overall with io which felt decent

[craggy pilot]

i stopped doing that shit because it took forever to repair gear like that

[sick sentinel]

yeah, i'll be 430 ilvl tuesday though for sure

[toxic pewter]

kinda wild even classes/specs deemed not meta are the first ones to decline 'off meta' specs lmao

[long chasm]

What a nerd

[toxic pewter]

?

[long chasm]

The vers math

[toxic pewter]

Oh

[quiet minnow]

im just g lad someone else is doing it

[long chasm]

Was that from druid discord?

[hazy bronze]

Looks like dh

[sick sentinel]

man dude

wtf

[dusky canopy]

JESUS dude

[sick sentinel]

all the cloaks from m+ pool has no haste except for one out of THREE that drops from VP

[dusky canopy]

are these strongholds supposed to be freaking annoying!?

im trying to do Malnok right now as barb

[sick sentinel]

dammnit im gunna be stuck in VP for another eternity

[dusky canopy]

and the stuff just nukes me

[strong forum]

malnok is the hardest one

dont do it underleveled

when i did it i killed the boss in 1.5seconds

but usually theyre very easy

all world content is, including world bosses, unless you do them [worldbosses] underleveled

strongholds are always your level +2

[toxic pewter]

do you guys use execute these days

feels weaker than ever

[icy atlas]

Is Voice of the Silent Star good?

[toxic pewter]

I hate that cloak.

has like 3% uptime when I was playing arms dps, its even worse on tank

and it cost me 40k health to wear it

so I am basically back to wearing my old 441 cloak

but it is technically a dps increase if all you care about is dps, which I often do but I just really dislike the cloak

[icy atlas]

Welp I do like big numbies

[strong forum]

its useless in m+

cuz it requires your party to take dmg

and it resets its procs once you leave combat

so you only get 2-5 procs per dungeon from it

in raid its ok cuz someone else frequently takes dmg and you dont drop combat obv

[icy atlas]

Makes sense

[lusty grotto]

adds hit for nothing, dps can tank them easily

[sick sentinel]

Why does it cost health to wear it

[lusty grotto]

and its usually better for them to take agro off you anyway so you dont get swamped by poison pools

[toxic pewter]

has zero stamina on the cloak

[tardy lily]

he is referreing to stamina loss over a normal cloak

[sick sentinel]

Oh i never noticed that

Eh its highest ilvl for me

[tardy lily]

i actually never checled buff uptime. and procc rate but that is astonishing to hear

[toxic pewter]

Yeah dont get me wrong I am not a huge stam guy or anything but 40k feels kinda bad, lol, got like brewmaster healthpool over here

[lusty grotto]

its good for raids

[tardy lily]

also shows agains how sims can deceibe real scenarios

[lusty grotto]

like bis probably

just not for keys

[tardy lily]

or rather don't

[sick sentinel]

Its procs dont reset i think

When i wear it the procs will still be on my while im in valdrakken waiting for the next key

[lusty grotto]

the real problem is there arent any high haste cloaks this season so, im probably gonna up a crafted

[sick sentinel]

Still cant decide on anchor vs dargul

[lusty grotto]

mark

[thorny finch]

is undulating sporecloak a bad embellishment for us?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[sick sentinel]

For m+?

[lusty grotto]

when i say crafted, i mean the old vanilla one

[sick sentinel]

My other trinket is ominous

[lusty grotto]

vibrant wildercloth

yes mark

anchor grapnel is great but mark outdpses it iirc

err not anchor

grapnel

if thats what you mean

wait which one are you talking about lmao

[novel cloak]

is it possible for burning writ 3 to sim higher than shadowflame wreath? cos thats what my raidbots is showing unless i am doing something wrong.

[sick sentinel]

Im talking about grapnel

Its an anchor on the art

[lusty grotto]

yeah i went by that too lmao

mark is slightly ahead

not by a lot but min maxing calls for mark

[lusty grotto]

how are you simming

and for what specifically? ST or aoe?

[modern gazelle]

curious as well, feels like i never get the big numbers from it compared to shield slam

[lusty grotto]

you use it

basically in place of revenge

on less than 3 targets iirc

since it also resets SS

[graceful kite]

solo target rage dump when slam is on cd

[modern gazelle]

also i feel like most of the time i have slam or thunderclap up in m+, we prio clap over revenge right?

[nocturne spindle]

yes

[lusty grotto]

yes

[nocturne spindle]

more rage = more DEEPS

[modern gazelle]

cause some pulls i get so many procs i basically cant cast revenge it feels like

[lusty grotto]

please dont be that guy from the other day

[modern gazelle]

wdym?

[lusty grotto]

ok you're not

[modern gazelle]

i just dump rage into ip and block but there are def pulls where i am casting revenge 1/3 the amount

[lusty grotto]

lol that was a roast

idk what kind of rng youre having but i def use revenge quite a lot

[modern gazelle]

i use it a lot usually, just sometimes you get that rng and wasnt sure if spamming clap+slam is better in those cases

in particular with avatar and high proc chance its like 99% clap+slam

[lusty grotto]

it is

well

no

its 30% to proc SS

see strategist

youre just getting lucky

[modern gazelle]

i meant like high rng

[nocturne spindle]

its less that your spamming clap

and more that your getting more slams

more slams is better than more revenges

[lusty grotto]

but yes revenge has less prio than both of those

[modern gazelle]

alright just wanted to be sure

[lusty grotto]

is what i meant when i said "it is"

[modern gazelle]

also what sim settings do you run on raidbots to check for m+

[lusty grotto]

5 patchwerks, no lust, 1 min or 1.5 mins

make sure you have any buffs that your team has selected

or disabled if you just pug

i.e. monk buff etc

[modern gazelle]

is it top gear?

[lusty grotto]

top gear is for gear

what do you want to check?

just dps numbers? quick sim

[modern gazelle]

when you get a new drop, simming to check what is better

[lusty grotto]

top gear sure

[modern gazelle]

what about these settings

[crude notch]

Raid buffs

remove them

[lusty grotto]

you have every buff enabled

[novel cloak]

just the defualt. patchwerk, 1boss, 5 mins. Im not sure what i should use for best results in m+

i mean which sim

[modern gazelle]

yeah i just read that, meant the trinkets

no option to remove

[crude notch]

well do you have the trinkets?

[lusty grotto]

so youre simming for single target? raids?

[novel cloak]

m+

[crude notch]

if you don't have the trinkets you don't gaf about the options for the trinkets

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[modern gazelle]

nah i have diff trinkets

[lusty grotto]

read like 5 lines above

[crude notch]

Then you don't have to worry about it

[novel cloak]

i see it, thx

[crude notch]

As a wise anime character once said

[modern gazelle]

so top gear + these settings for m+

[novel cloak]

Yeh, still shows burning writ 3.

[lusty grotto]

burning writ is crit

so it'll sim higher

but it might inconsistent in keys because you have downtime and rngesus

most of us use sophic @novel cloak

[modern gazelle]

alright maybe im dumb but i cant find the gem for neck in the ah, its the Crafty Ysemerald correct?

[lusty grotto]

yea

[modern gazelle]

idk waht im doing wrong then, or there is literally no gems available

then i click search

[lusty grotto]

ysem

[modern gazelle]

we dont talk about it

[sick sentinel]

the VP trinket did 5 million dmg in an 11

[lusty grotto]

yeah its a solid trinket

if you dont have mark + beacon

[sick sentinel]

i wouldnt mind getting mark

[sick sentinel]

Beacon better than ominous?

[craggy pilot]

what ilvl?

[sick sentinel]

437

C 8/8

[craggy pilot]

was thinking if i should farm some +11 Lair/VP for trinkets just to get them 437, or if i should do them +17 for it to be 441 🤔

the speed and ease of getting into +11 vs the ilvl of a potentially failed +17 🤣

[sick sentinel]

11 VP's are hold W can't lose

[lusty grotto]

yes

[sick sentinel]

i will not say VP is easier than FH , but its close

[toxic pewter]

I personally would do 17 because I dunno having it at 437 just feels bad lol

I mean its literally like not a huge difference in the end and doesnt matter though lmao

[kind urchin]

Is onyx annulet replaced at any point yet or is it still bis for now?

[jagged gust]

Agreed, 437 is just such an unappealing number

[crude notch]

so is 415

[toxic pewter]

anyone know why the first boss of BH either goes smoothly or is a disaster? Is it a healing check boss or what

is it gashtooth going around putting bleed on everyone or what

[crude notch]

Does the healer know they have to heal the bleed above 90%?
Does the tank know they have to stand between the boss and the target for charge?
Does the DPS know they have to burst the totem?

If yes to all of these, then you're set usually.
If no to any of these, then disaster usually.

[lusty grotto]

dont forget to spell reflect disorient

and you can intervene the jump as well

[toxic pewter]

whoa you can spell reflect the totem disorient?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[toxic pewter]

I know about the arrow, I think the healer couldnt top everyone off that well

[toxic pewter]

thats great thx for that info

[lusty grotto]

1st boss is the dangerous boss there tbh

nothing else

[sick sentinel]

must be something in halls that dragons really want

[toxic pewter]

so intervene also works?

[sick sentinel]

3 of them in 1 group

[toxic pewter]

is it needed if you stand on the arrow though? I guess it still does damage to the guy?

prob trinket

[lusty grotto]

not for arrow

the jump

you have to intervene before the cast

btw

[toxic pewter]

ohhh the jump that applies the bleed?

[sick sentinel]

i need to get the haste cloak from vp

[lusty grotto]

no

theres 2 jumps

[toxic pewter]

ok

[lusty grotto]

one on the entire group 1 by 1

that applies the bleed

theres another where he pounces a person

you can intervene it, if you do it before the cast

[toxic pewter]

Ok, how do I know who he is puncing on

is it shown

[lusty grotto]

he casts

[toxic pewter]

Ok

thats pretty good

[lusty grotto]

its called marked for butchery

btw you should always be killing that dumb rogue first

caster 2nd

decayed senses you reflect, which is the disorient

make sure your group knows that Gashtooth needs to die first

2 hours looking for a 20+ neltharus

because im lazy and dont wanna run my 23 FH

without my rsham friend at least

gonna fucking be spicy those pistol shots on a 23 tyrannical

that stage 1 is so stupid

[toxic pewter]

yeah wahts the deal with pistol shot

it kills people sometimes

[lusty grotto]

you cant fucking line it anymore

[toxic pewter]

is there anything i can do for that

[lusty grotto]

intervene if they dont have a personal

that's about it

[toxic pewter]

damn i really need to start running intervene lol

[lusty grotto]

intervene is so fucking good this season

in a lot of dungeons too

[toxic pewter]

yah seems I am messing up not taking it

[lusty grotto]

i run intervene in BH, UR and FH

fixates on trash and abilities on bosses that can be intervened

UR doesnt have any bosses that it can be used on but it helps on the dumb fixates

from bloodswarmers

BH and FH both have stuff on bosses that can be intervened and trash that fixates as well

[vocal nimbus]

what do you drop for intervene?

[lusty grotto]

sidearm

[vital arch]

thanks for advice about intervene been trying to learn it, I can’t believe I almost pugged to 2,700 without intimidating shout and intervene, gotta start being a team player lel

[lusty grotto]

its not needed, but its good utility

its better than relying on 5 min bops

cause 30s cd

[tender phoenix]

So i was reading up on the pins and i noticed the use spellblock for "Neltharus and Uldaman" what part of Uldaman we benefit me from spell block talent and also what talent should i change to get spell block?

[toxic pewter]

osnap just got prot warr hidden artifact appearance

walked into cave and it was there 😮

[modern gazelle]

if i want forgestorm should i change my loot spec at all?

for higher chance

[toxic pewter]

prob just remain prot spec is best

cancels out 2h weapon and dps trinket from dropping instead of forgestorm perhaps

then again enables shield to drop also

[hardy snow]

craft 447 shield so you dont have to open in prot spec

[toxic pewter]

Oh i thought he meant in literally neltharus

[proper roost]

447 forgestorm tho

[toxic pewter]

yah obv one from vault is best

[sick sentinel]

i gotta do at least one 14 or so this week

amybe some greaterer diversity besides just VP, but it does have my cloak

[lusty grotto]

all the casters and the last 2 bosses to name a few

neltharus from molten slashes etc

and i use it on HoI on fort because the icecallers can be spicy

but since it is such a small part of the dungeon its likely not needed

with a decent team you can just SR their shit and stun in between cds

regarding talents you can drop bloodsurge but if you feel like rage income isnt really good, you can drop battering ram instead

i just wouldnt touch punish, its too good for tyrannical week on those dungeons

[crude notch]

Come tank my 19 HoI. I'll heal ya.

[modern gazelle]

feelsgood

was with someone that didnt know mechanic on last boss, so we failed key, but still got the dps storm so its lit

[sick sentinel]

Got a 441 as dps felt bad for the tank

But i kept it

[violet flume]

the chain boss in neltharus, how do you guys handle chains? pop them all at once? one at a time and wait for debuff to drop?

[modern gazelle]

dont quote me on this, but i think its pop 2 then 3rd when he channels the aoe

[modern gazelle]

lol rip him but fair

[warm plinth]

Purely depends on what the healer can handle

[violet flume]

but generally delayed pops is better

i take it

[warm plinth]

Well, it just depends. Like I'm sure some high keyers still break 2 but some lower keys you might have to stagger them all because the healer can't keep up

[violet flume]

i started doing +16s and this shaman couldnt heal and warrior dps told me "yes lmao" after i asked if i shouldve delayed chains

you know what ill just delay it, i somehow thought he was pumping constant aoe damage during that phase but its only 6yards around him lmao

[modern gazelle]

i feel like i hold shield wall too much, how often are you guys casting it?

[violet flume]

im a pug normie so i dont want to take chances

i pop shieldwall the second i feel my hp goes down a bit too fast

its back up so fast with proper talents anyway

or i use it when i know something heavy hitting is coming and might kill me

[modern gazelle]

yeah thats my issue, i feel like its up so fast but i just dont use it often enough

i use it on tank busters for sure or if i want to do a big pull, but i dont use it when doing stuff where i feel im not in danger even though it will prob be back up by time i need it again

[oblique quarry]

Are paladins supposed to be lower damage or am I goofing up? I am at 439 ilvl and tend to avg 60k dps. My prot warrior is doing about 70k dps on avg at 427 ilvl. Both have 4 pc and non bis trinkets. Haven't been logging this season as im taking it easy.

[violet flume]

imo dont feel too bad about not minmaxing shieldwall uptime, its a short storng cooldown its not meant to be as high as possible in uptime

[modern gazelle]

i know i dont use last stand enough either but i also dont have bolster yet so i cant spam it quite yet

[violet flume]

yeah and when you get the tier bonus where you want to use laststand for damage you really want to have shieldwall as a fallback for those "ohfuck" moments

[modern gazelle]

last stand for damage?

[long chasm]

Do you know the dungeons well or still learning? Once you get familiar you know what dangerous pulls you have coming up so you can save it. Other than that I usually just send it to be a bro for the healer

[violet flume]

tier bonus makes last stand shoot shockwaves when you shieldslam

[modern gazelle]

i know them decent, not auto pilot yet, so i know thats part of it but even on something like freehold which i could do blindfolded, i feel like i dont use it much

[modern gazelle]

ah

whats the avg dps for peoples sims?

i used the top gear patchwork 5 bosses 1min 30s, only buff as rally cry

got 104k dps on my 418

[hardy vault]

Hoping that prot pvp was viable in arena turned up the same as it used to be. I got the same shocked reaction from teammates every match, and I saw why. Is there no place anywhere for the concept of prot in arena?

[crude notch]

Bruh

[daring marlin]

Nope.

[modern gazelle]

lol

[daring marlin]

Go be a flag runner in RBGs or something.

[silk kiln]

Probably a faq but roughly how much % damage was the buffs this week overall

[modern gazelle]

think they said in the patch note. It was 8%

[proper roost]

just to follow up on this (late, sry), it's highly dependent on the healer spec

can only speak for rsham and prevoker but both of those want 2-1

if you're in a 20 or lower pug you should definitely just stagger all individually unless you know for sure the healer can handle it

[violet flume]

thats my case hah

[proper roost]

Just feel out your groups hp on magmatusk

[violet flume]

ill prob stagger all yeah

[proper roost]

if it seems like healer is reacting and slow, then don't ask and just 1-1-1

[violet flume]

well see maybe ill get used to the dungeon more as i progress

[lusty grotto]

my rsham can heal 3 just fine

in fact he yells at me if i wait

[proper roost]

if your group never drops below 80% then the healer is properly prepared and you should ask the healer if you should do 2-1 as you go in

[violet flume]

this rsham couldnt 3 on +16 so yeah 😛

doesnt help i had issues breaking 3rd chain and prob refreshed the 2stack near the end

that jump the boss does is what messed me

[proper roost]

ya its always a jump on you right after, very predictable

[toxic pewter]

ngl, getting into 21/22 area now getting difficult to get into pug groups. Lot of people still looking down on prot warr

[lusty grotto]

welcome to the club

[toxic pewter]

Not sure what is going on

[violet flume]

as an exclusive pugger i find getting in +20s last season super hard

[lusty grotto]

cant compete with too much utility

[violet flume]

was really easy once i got all +20s done but lol my goal was accomplished

obviosuly blizzard should give us more utility to compensate

..right?

[lusty grotto]

the obvious answer is probably another damage buff

idk about utility, we've had a lot of good ideas here, but i doubt blizzard wants to shake up the utility game

people just dont know intervene is a better version of bop

🙂

[violet flume]

im still mad intervene is a talent it should be baseline grr

[crude notch]

what io are you?

[lusty grotto]

berserker rage

[violet flume]

shits baseline since BC then bam its a talent

berserker rage too yeah

[lusty grotto]

thats the one i get most mad about, thankfully there's not a lot of fears in keys this past 2 seasons

or incaps

[violet flume]

kinda wish rallying cry was stronger in 5man content

feels like it never does much

[lusty grotto]

it helps

i cant complain about it tbh

[violet flume]

yeah it does but it never helped my bad healers make people live through tyrannical hyrja

[proud tide]

441 Understone Gorget or Lariat?

[violet flume]

i did just save this warlock 5mins ago with it though

[crude notch]

WF 27 was timed with a bear, y'all got no excuses.

get on it.

[lusty grotto]

facts

[crude notch]

Can't blame PPal anymore.

[violet flume]

Whetstone + ominous right?

feels like i hit jackpot for my 4 mythic dungeon weekly

[crude notch]

?

If you regularly run with people that also have it sure.

[violet flume]

is not that good?

i wont be raiding so i feel like ill be using that + dargrul the day i get it

[crude notch]

as I said

If you regularly run with people that also have it, sure.

[amber siren]

Ominous is pretty much the new icon, good if you’re all running it but otherwise pretty average

[lusty grotto]

put up the 23

[sick sentinel]

Doesnt have avoidance

[lusty grotto]

and check this shit out

[violet flume]

can only get so lucky off weekly dungeon quest

[lusty grotto]

i fucking hate people

how is the dps eating a bird charge my fault

[warm plinth]

So I agree, stil his fault, but

if you tank him by the next, then the charge only happens from one spot and you can basically ignore the mechanic

[violet flume]

smh why are you not micromanaging every little aspect to make it easier for your braindead teammates

[warm plinth]

by the nest*

[lusty grotto]

yeah i know but we had fucking poop there

look at the first pic

[crude notch]

that's literally the job of a tank in keys tbf

[warm plinth]

Yeah that's because no one in this fucking expansion knows how to bait the bird properly 😦

[crude notch]

or even in raid.

[warm plinth]

wait where is the poop?

[lusty grotto]

look at the first screen

it just disappared on the charge

[violet flume]

i never did freedhold in BFA, didnt know you could bait bird

[warm plinth]

You tank him here, not where the poop is

[lusty grotto]

and i was omw

[warm plinth]

If you tank him there (or near there), the bird will basically always charge here to where the arrow is pointing

[lusty grotto]

yeah i understand that

i just didnt want to move around it cause the fucking azerite shots were chunking, i didnt want to risk it

[crude notch]

nimchip more like nimbish

[proper roost]

incredibly mean

[toxic pewter]

currently 2771

[crude notch]

ugh still annoys me i can't @ghash anymore

D:

does naowh's UI kit let you yoink his boss timers specifically?

I literally don't want any of the rest of it, just the timers.

the skin for the timers*

[lusty grotto]

i think so

talking about nimbish

xD

[warm plinth]

can you now?

[crude notch]

@warm plinth

wtf

what'd you do?

[warm plinth]

I just changed my display name to ghash in my user settings

[crude notch]

ah

[lusty grotto]

i got some dumbass pants on the chest 😦

i guess its kind of an upgrade to haste mastery legs

assault legs, haste vers

oh well its something

[modern gazelle]

anyone know if there is a way to show test debuffs while editing elvui?

i want to move where my debuffs are but need to see example debuffs in order to be able to test it

[warm plinth]

UnitFrames>Group Units>Party>Display Frames checkbox

[modern gazelle]

that doesnt seem to be for my own debuffs

i want my own debuff bar to be visible with example/test debuffs while i edit it that way i can place it how i want and resize

cause im trying to have it in the middle of my screen near my action bar for important debuffs

[daring marlin]

yawn

[loud cave]

Is Forgestorm worth it despite not having any Strength stat?

[lusty grotto]

have you checked pins?

[harsh light]

is there a WA to track earthen smash buff? cant find it in afenar wa and missing massive damage potential with it being my 7th-11th overall ability

[warm plinth]

Make a normal buff tracker and change the buff to earthen tenacity

[harsh light]

10-4 preciate yah boss

[faint sundial]

Sent u one in DM

[crude notch]

Oh snap

Super secret WAs

That paladins don't want you to know about

[crude notch]

nice pfp cutie

[cinder nova]

Lost anvil to a ret paladin doing less than 70K standing in the tornado paths dying P1

God must hate me

[crude notch]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[craggy pilot]

anyone have a smart trick to Reflect all Sunder on 2nd boss Lair? The castbar is so fuckin short i miss like half of them

and every time i try to preuse Spell Reflect, he doesnt cast sunder because of spell queue :<

[cunning inlet]

👍🏻

[cinder nova]

Watch the boss timers?

[craggy pilot]

when i reflect based on the timers he fuckin skips over the Sunder 🤣

is there some pattern to when he skips, and when he doesnt?

[cinder nova]

yeah it's spellque, so be ready based on timers

it's not on GCD and almost nothing else in that fight requires your accute attention

[craggy pilot]

even when i tend to be fast based on timers, and he does Sunder, i miss it like half the time

the cast is like 0.5sec or some shit

[cinder nova]

idk then, this is probably the most unironic skill issue I can toss

Just practice on M0

[craggy pilot]

oh lol 0.3 😄

tried to precast it when the timer was coming up, and then he just did Strike of the Mountain in my face

and fucking went into pillar phase

the spellqueueing in Lair is insane on pretty much all 3 bosses after the 1st

[crude notch]

This is why you lose anvil rolls

[cinder nova]

You can always EXPECT a slam out of the totem phase

he pretty much guarantees a slam out of it

like almost instantly

[neat blaze]

good morning warriors! I kindly wanted some info, if I put shadowflame tempered armor patch x2 as embellishment, does the damage add up? does % damage increase? I currently use shadowflame tempered armor patch x1 and fang adornments x1 which on the details at the end of the keys give me the same damage or 3.5%

[crude notch]

Yes double Shadowflame will give you double the damage from Shadowflame throughout an encounter.

[misty sail]

what can "intervene" be used for in Brackenhide=? First Boss the Bleed?

[ember tangle]

first boss fixate

trash mobs fixate

althought that one is easier to just stun

[craggy pilot]

this is stunnable

[misty sail]

indeed

[craggy pilot]

so should almost never go through

[ember tangle]

i guess you can also intervene the hyena fixate

[misty sail]

yep

[ember tangle]

although on the boss the hyenas hit hella hard

when they enrage

so it's really better to just trap them

but on the big patrol guy with 4 hyenas it makes it really easy

[misty sail]

we skip them

[ember tangle]

i have killed them before just because the patrolling was badly timed

on tyrannical keys or something

[real minnow]

Does that mean, i cast intervene on the fixate player of vicious clawmangle and it will stop?

[misty sail]

no

but he can stand still

like a bop

[real minnow]

Thx

[vocal nimbus]

You take the damage

But it gets reduced by your defenses

[chrome falcon]

so is this VP trinket really stonks

man there are so many good trinkets this patch

[jagged gust]

What do you trade to grab intervene? Cry seems like the obvious choice to me

[sullen gust]

Gonna be sidearm most likely

Or I tend to drop honed reflexes (the one that reduces SS and pummel by 1s)

Just as general flex points

[jagged gust]

Oh I already have that unslotted, I read about sidearm earlier but... idk ive never found a situation where im saving someone with my cry or it saved me

maybe im just no that good yet tho

though yeah sidearm is basically just a free revenge every 8-10 seconds, not exactly making or breaking an encounter

[sick sentinel]

ooooh dragonst is getting salvation

[sullen gust]

I find it's good value for in Neltharus for example, the volatile cast of the mammoth on 5 stacks, or when then Chains come out on 2nd boss, or the big AOE cast on Gorek (like the 2nd/3rd when healer might have less CDs) and once casting the treasure on final boss. Chances are you won't necessarily see when it saves people, but extra % health might give the healer one more GDC in a situation to save a wipe or dps survive a swirly. Worst cast, you'll be gaining a fuck ton of health as a defensive for yourself

[jagged gust]

Yeah I find myself agreeing with you, I shouldn't be turning down extra utility in any case, especially when the argument is vs a <1% dps increase

[sullen gust]

I dont find many mobs have fixates dangerous enough where I would want to take intervene over using the CC of storm bolt, shockwave and maybe int shout if it's an interrupt heave affix week

Maybe brackenhide? The first boss has a kinda spooky fixate I could see it being worth taking against

[sick sentinel]

heart of thunder can crit

1 shot some poor birdy boy that aggro'd me while doing random quests

[jagged gust]

There's nothing more satisfying

I love throwing an axe then watching the mob randomly take 150k in procs

[sick sentinel]

seems like its getting some kind of other buff too, cuz it hit for ... 2555 more than what it should have i wonder if thats due to versa...

[jagged gust]

Maybe? Does vers apply before the crit is calculated?

[sick sentinel]

the non crit number checks out

[tired girder]

I am constantly using battle cry. We need to use our utilities and not only using when it will be the perfect moment.
If we can support the healers on that, it's a must do.

Dps killed don't do dps.

How can I get trinkets? Mine are low but the loot table for trinkets is very bad...
We can craft or buy anywhere?

[sick sentinel]

raid trinkets or heart of thunder + mark probably best options

[nocturne spindle]

dungeon trinkets are a lie

they dont exist

[sick sentinel]

for me its the VP haste cloak

[waxen vale]

What is the vp trinket heart of thunder? Is it better than beacon?

[sick sentinel]

becaon probably beats it because its a raid one, im not sure

[waxen vale]

What is that macro someone was talking about to bind ignore pain to shield block or something?

I read it on here or in some guide

[hardy snow]

/cast ignore pain
/cast shield slam

dont bind IP with shield block

only with SS

[waxen vale]

Should i just replace that with shield slam on my bar?

[hardy snow]

no, you replace it with ignore pain

[waxen vale]

Oh ok cool thanks

It works without a target?

[hardy snow]

IP part does

[waxen vale]

It at range

And also if it's on gcd

Basically if it can't cast one it all cast the other ig

[hardy snow]

IP is off GCD

[waxen vale]

Ig

I know

[hardy snow]

it just makes that it queues SS if you have proc etc.

[waxen vale]

Ah ok

Since they randomly pop up every split second right

Faster than you can even see it

[craggy pilot]

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