it was a chain
#protection
craggy pilot
another player could press it it looked like
and i checked a chain later, and i couldnt click that one either
lusty grotto
honestly it just feels like you did have the debuff then idk what to tell you
lusty grotto
shadowplay it
craggy pilot
but my working assumption is 2 chains max pr character
undone verge
can you spellblock on forgotten exp?
craggy pilot
shadowplay it
?
craggy pilot
idk if i have tool for that
lusty grotto
you dont have nvidia drivers?
craggy pilot
ill test it out in M0
lusty grotto
or ati?
lusty grotto
alt + z
craggy pilot
never used that shit
lusty grotto
can you spellblock on forgotten exp?
not the dot
undone verge
rip
lusty grotto
just play it like zskarn
craggy pilot
hmm i see when i have debuff the cogwheel doesnt pop up
lusty grotto
idk about mythic, but swapping every 5 works well
blowing up for max 2 explotions maybe
might have to play with explotion stacks idk
depending on raid dmg
undone verge
shit hurts
and trying not to accidentally hit the other tank while stacking the bosses is pissing me off
lusty grotto
sounds fucking rough
sick sentinel
whats less worse this week, BH or nelt
lusty grotto
BH is easier
sick sentinel
im lookin to do some IO is about it
craggy pilot
then i couldnt pick chaim
lusty grotto
nelt is easy too but... depends on how well your healer does on bosses
craggy pilot
now 1min more passed and now i can do chain
lusty grotto
might be a bug nielsen
sick sentinel
figure out some nice easy weeks to push some of these for KSM mount
crude notch
Were you under a movement speed effect when you tried to do it the first time after the buff fell off?
craggy pilot
might be a bug nielsen
ye looks like it
lusty grotto
also you cant heroic leap when you have the chain
craggy pilot
Were you under a movement speed effect when you tried to do it the first time af...
no
lusty grotto
and/or charge
crude notch
There's a bug with like dash and shit right now
sick sentinel
i wonder if dread plates is it goes off once or 5 times
sick sentinel
cuz, i never see it in the dmg logs, or i don't remember it usually
crude notch
Yeah
craggy pilot
i think you need geforce experience installed
i have
im just standing still
cant click
craggy pilot
m0
sick sentinel
does something in the pull 2 of uldaman cuase it self to have huge melee dmg
128k melee in a 11
whole bunch of them died to thatt probably
crude notch
Yeah not having block up or getting hit in the back of yo big head
sick sentinel
i wonder if that is a buff they are getting or if that is normal unblocked damage
crude notch
I heard logs can help with that. (:
sick sentinel
im smart enough to know how to make them and upload them
but im too stupid to comprehend them
crude notch
Well that's what everyone else is for
craggy pilot
went out and reset dungeon, went back in
sick sentinel
craggy pilot
this time it bugged after 1st use of Chain
sick sentinel
i knew it, a buff
crude notch
Well there you go champ
sick sentinel
dumpster that fucker next time i suppose
craggy pilot
20% doesnt sound like a lot though
lusty grotto
also nielsen keep in mind
chains are most likely a dps job
cause im not entirely sure you can block with them
lusty grotto
i shockwaved before raging to do mine
craggy pilot
i had 2600 paladin who didnt know how to Chain or Kick
lusty grotto
you can just tell them before hand
i told a pug we had and used markers to show where they were
craggy pilot
and he didnt know how to CR either
craggy pilot
you can just tell them before hand
we did
crude notch
I mean 99%
lusty grotto
yeah i get that
crude notch
And when I say don't know
waxen vale
so im still finding the blazing slash guys really rough
warm plinth
Yeah I was about to say, a lot of people aren't even aware they exist
crude notch
I mean they literally have no idea what you mean
sick sentinel
its a buff and someone with soothe can remove it
crude notch
So even saying "use chains" means nothing
sick sentinel
but, it makes them take 20% more
warm plinth
Also you should still be able to block with chains; you're not casting/channeling
lusty grotto
right, i try my best to communicate it beforehand and placing markers where they are
i can check today's log just in case ghash
sick sentinel
no wonder i kept dying to that pack
craggy pilot
btw there is a Chain in Pull 11, whoever said that there was 🙂
lusty grotto
i trust you though
waxen vale
is blazing slash a frontal> or just outrangeable? it really owns me esp in the final pack
of neltharus
lusty grotto
is blazing slash a frontal> or just outrangeable? it really owns me esp in the f...
use spell block
and/or wall
well not and
use spell block OR wall
spell reflect also works for the damage reduction
waxen vale
you need something for every one
toxic pewter
btw there is a Chain in Pull 11, whoever said that there was 🙂
yah there was right? nice
waxen vale
in the 2 packs its rough
crude notch
And you have something for every one
waxen vale
also, there are other casters, which not kicked will use ur spell block
lusty grotto
yeah you should have something for every one
SR alone is 20% dr
and its on a short cd
crude notch
You shouldn't be spell blocking anything else around that time. The blazing slash is the only real reason you're taking it in the first place.
lusty grotto
toxic pewter
ngl the new 30 secon spell block gonna be sweet
crude notch
alright about to hop into a HoI with a PWar
idk anything about your tree
is this right?
or should i flame (kidding i don't flame people in-game)
warm plinth
That's last season's raid build...
lusty grotto
idk hope he can SR icecallers reliably
and back off from protos breath
yeah seems off with inspiring presence and uproar
and instigate lol
no bloodsurge
lusty grotto
true
warm plinth
honed reflexes which is just a wrong talent altogether
crude notch
found out i could heal 3rd boss with 10% mana at the start, so successful run.
warm plinth
lol
crude notch
oh snap another pwar
for VP this time
uhoh
oh nvm i swapped Seismic and Barbaric in my head
warm plinth
Still not ideal. Taking uproar over 1h spec is straight inting
And enduring focus or w/e the fuck it is over battering ram, give me a break
crude notch
oh
daring marlin
No my headphones broke
lusty grotto
oh rip 😦
warm plinth
I was going to offer my manly grunt services
crude notch
who doesn't enjoy listening to manly grunts really
astral crystal
is blazing slash a frontal> or just outrangeable? it really owns me esp in the f...
iirc you CAN range it, but they just recast when in range
daring marlin
iirc you CAN range it, but they just recast when in range
Unless they do the conal yes
pos mobs lmao
warm plinth
At least you only have to kill what, 6 of them?
Though you get two at a time twice, which sucks
vital arch
Is there any trick to pelter in NL, got ++19 with a nice time but they still ate my dps alive
warm plinth
You can kite them but idk. There's so few of them now that it feels like a waste
Could run intervene for that dungeon I suppose
That would help a little
marble crown
Does the 4p do big dam in keys?
warm plinth
Said it before, I'll say it again: I could not give a fuck less about 4 dps comps unless it becomes the norm. One or two groups doing it doesn't break the game and doesn't matter to the other 99.99% of people
daring marlin
Said it before, I'll say it again: I could not give a fuck less about 4 dps comp...
@crude notch come get your man he's losing it
ducks
warm plinth
🤔
warm plinth
Ah
toxic pewter
It’s definitely a symptom of poor design though hopefully blizzard can somehow fix the Goliath of a problem they created that is called prot pal
crude notch
That's all i gotta say on that
toxic pewter
Yes
crude notch
4 dps is only viable this season because of prot pally
Last season it worked with pwar at the start, but ppal just enables stupid things
which in the past wasn't a problem because you would be capped at like 3-4 keys lower and it was only zmok doing it.
But when you're able to do a 24 Neltharus without a healer. That sounds sussy.
warm plinth
It was fortified Neltharus though right?
crude notch
yeah
daring marlin
healing khajin sounds sus af to me tbh
crude notch
17 25s have been timed
warm plinth
A lot of the mobs in that dungeon don't even do group damage. Like the only really bad ones are the birds and the lavamancers
daring marlin
That rot damage is dumb as fuck
warm plinth
And w/ 4 dps you can blast those absorbs fast for the army kick
undone verge
forgotten experiments might be possibly the worst tank fight theyve ever designed for pwarriors
crude notch
The only barrier to killing that boss is killing the totem
and guess what enables you to kill the totem faster
4 dps
I would not be surprised if you could do a WF BH key with 4 dps
daring marlin
crude notch
I need one of the big WF key pushers to nut up though and do one with 4 dps
because i know it can be done
vital arch
The 4 dps team just did HoI and BH 24 that’s it idk why that Reddit post said “all 24s”
crude notch
because there's more than one 4 dps team
lol
And the tank with the priest did a 24 Nelth
this just didn't do it with Psy so no one noted it
If they hadn't started both S1 and S2 saying "healers are too strong so we're gonna increase damage AND hp to compensate" this would be far less of an issue.
crude notch
TRUE doe
daring marlin
toxic pewter
Def really bad for the health of the game. I really hope blizzard swiftly makes some strong tuning to attack this before it becomes more widespread
crude notch
They'll have to hit bear in 10.1.5 next
Not to mention in 10.1.5 you can run 1 Tank 3 DPS and 1 Auggie
toxic pewter
Yeah dang the augmentation alone will be crazy to incorporate
crude notch
And by 1 tank I mean one tank that's either Bear or PPal
🙂
because warr and bdk can't offheal and well Monk offhealing is kekw
toxic pewter
I think they just need to straight up nerf off healing for both
crude notch
They're hitting Nature's Vigil duration but uh yeah
my ass swapping to PotP anyways.
toxic pewter
Prot pal pretty egregious. They themselves have to even admit it at this point I hope
toxic pewter
Wait really?
toxic pewter
That’s wild to not even have the semblance to be objective about it
crude notch
toxic pewter
Or try to at least
daring marlin
because warr and bdk can't offheal and well Monk offhealing is kekw
Bring back legion consumption
ezpz
crude notch
bro true
daring marlin
33% uptime I think?
toxic pewter
That’s fine I guess but if they can offheal everyone they themselves should not be able to survive as easily or some shit like how prot pal used to be
crude notch
That was the thing in the past they could do all this stuff but the trade off was they were squishier
crude notch
Now they just don't have a weakness AND got brez this expansion
🙂
Might as well give them lust at this point.
That'll be a niche
toxic pewter
But it’s wild I’m sure they can at least acknowledge there is an imbalance occurring objectively
Like when we were strong as hell last patch we were all like yeah damn we strong af
Op even at the start
I’m sure most prot pal acknowledge this current state of affairs, they must
warm plinth
Imagine saying that your niche as a tank is being a healer 
wooden widget
What’s our niche
warm plinth
Being the ultimate freehold tank
daring marlin
I’m sure most prot pal acknowledge this current state of affairs, they must
You'd be surprised.
wooden widget
Hahah
daring marlin
They were up in arms about the slap on the wrist when 10.1 dropped.
toxic pewter
Wat goin on in this world
(Of Warcraft)
Sometimes just gotta call a spade a spade
Even if it’s an L
toxic pewter
What’s our niche
It’s a good question I guess best physical dam mitigator. Kinda wish we leaned more into execute. Like we can be the execute tank
toxic pewter
They just tryin to have their cake and eat it too lol
crude notch
I also got told my player skill is bad bad because I am against 4 dps high keys
And I was like listen, I suck at the game, but it's not because I disprove of 4 dps high keys.
Yo wait
I got the perfect strat for 4 dps keys as pwar
Prep your annulets
crude notch
lol
waxen vale
theres rot dam in neltharus?
i dont see any way i stay alive without a healer in neltharus lol
crude notch
i believe in you debit
warm plinth
What rot damage is there in Neltharus outside of bosses?
And the birds
Which isn't really rot
crude notch
bruh
daring marlin
DELICIOUS GAINS
crude notch
Which isn't really rot
yeah and indomitable would be able to handle that
daring marlin
You guys ever just sit down and eat a whole rotisserie chicken?
crude notch
alright tyler1 calm down
daring marlin
bruh I always buy two when I go shopping at Sam's for the week.
One for that day and one for the next day
ez dinner
crude notch
you're an easy dinner
crude notch
alright imma try this exuding steam stone tech on my bear
see how much overhealing I can do
4 full vaults this week Guilford
I'm getting good shit on tuesday
I can feel it
Priest, Pally, Monk, Druid all have raid vaults and M+ vaults
vital arch
You guys ever just sit down and eat a whole rotisserie chicken?
Average prot warrior enjoyer
daring marlin
idk if I'm gonna fill my vaults with M+
but
I got full heroic raid at least for pally and warrior
crude notch
tuesday gonna be a full nut session for me.
do I loot as resto to try to get rashok's?
daring marlin
Hopefully your vault is as blessed as mine were this week
daring marlin
let's get it
crude notch
nah nah hear me out
2 ret 1 holy 1 prot 1 auggie
then you got lust covered
LF someone to play auggie in 10.1.5
@chilly brook is an evoker enjoyer right?
chilly brook
<@133532617940140032> is an evoker enjoyer right?
ye
chilly brook
I'll be playin simpvoker for sure
warm plinth
strim where
daring marlin
make them stream it
crude notch
let's go
crude notch
i gotta try this exuding tech
warm plinth
LOL
crude notch
wtf
daring marlin
I'M JUST 'AVIN' A GIGGLE
crude notch
That's the great thing though, PPal catching all this heat for offhealing
And no one knows what's about to come in 10.1.5
getting moved up from post-20 breakpoint to row 3 all the way up gamers
phat ass regrowths
daring marlin
big beefy bear
waxen vale
what in the f
crude notch
sitting on forbidden reach
waxen vale
tbh paladin being able to offheal hasnt been such a difference since i started warrior
i used to love offhealing dps and now i cant and theyr still fine
crude notch
My druid is named Dreamgrove take that.
wait that's illegal
you can't have that name and not have ashkandur
blizzard should've blocked that shi
daring marlin
I'm gonna trade them and put mine in the window
crude notch
what in the f
wooden widget
They should make intervene baseline. 20 second cd. And giga heal. Instead of nerfing ppal
crude notch
getting moved there in 10.1.5 baby
crude notch
They should make intervene baseline. 20 second cd. And giga heal. Instead of ner...
nah they're gonna bring back party-wide shield wall 🙏
And then old consumption for bdk
something similar for VDH
daring marlin
CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
crude notch
and idk make jade serpent statue actually like pulse healing for brew or something
daring marlin
yeah fuck them healers
they're a bunch of sissies crying about being nerfed anyway
wooden widget
Spirit bomb also heals Allie’s if it hits them pog
daring marlin
we're tanks GOING OUR OWN WAY
crude notch
Embrace the 4 dps meta
daring marlin
TGTOW
waxen vale
can bear still healvoke
crude notch
can bear still healvoke
yeah but like it's a choice node with incarn so no
waxen vale
oh
thats crap
i gotta log on my druid man
still lvl 60
i loved that big ol silly bastard
warm plinth
https://tenor.com/view/glee-sue-sylvester-cheering-cheer-excited-gif-16955937
Jane Lynch is my spirit animal
daring marlin
KT 2h animations are the best
crude notch
i'd fuk
toxic pewter
Damn kt do look good wow
waxen orbit
mostly full set but idgaf tmog SNOBS I like it
Full set kekw
chilly brook
And then old consumption for bdk
honestly miss this ability
daring marlin
Full set kekw
I seens it comin'
waxen orbit
Kul Tiran is the only respectable thing in this picture
chilly brook
KT 2h animations are the best
Sir, Panda 2H animations are BiS
daring marlin
Mix and match in WoW sux and you know it
chilly brook
Mix and match in WoW sux and you know it
wrong
daring marlin
Compared to a game like XIV hell yeah it does
textures all wrong and shit
disgusting
waxen orbit
Mix and match in WoW sux and you know it
It definitely doesn't
Just takes creativity
daring marlin
you must have some busted ass vision
crude notch
Guilford based here friends sorry
daring marlin
taking too much of that v24 butcher
crude notch
Ain't no way you can pair something within the last 5 years from something from like bc vanilla
daring marlin
rotting your brain
chilly brook
Mix and match in WoW sux and you know it
waxen orbit
None of the items from the same set
chilly brook
Goblin drip
median tulip
what % of damage are people getting from the 4pc in M+?
waxen orbit
Most of them different expansions actually
daring marlin
Most of them different expansions actually
Yeah, it's pretty obvious too.
waxen orbit
what % of damage are people getting from the 4pc in M+?
Usually #5 on my breakdown
waxen orbit
Yeah, it's pretty obvious too.
I mean you're disagreeing for the sole purpose of attempting to nullify my point
daring marlin
I'm not saying it looks bad but it very clearly doesn't go together.
waxen orbit
I wouldn't expect an individual on the internet to change their opinion
crude notch
Hey it ain't his fault you made a bad point
toxic pewter
I just prefer my pirate outfit
chilly brook
unfortunately I can't get an updated pic because it's broken now that my warrior is not horde
crude notch
U.g.l.y.
chilly brook
but it actually looks fire on an orc
median tulip
Mix & Match:
crude notch
Bro about to have a mental breakdown over you dissing his mog @daring marlin
daring marlin
proper roost
Nice
crude notch
proper roost
is it ok to take the cart home with you like that
i thought you're supposed to leave it at the grocery store
crude notch
Cart is his home
median tulip
The aim of that mog was to be as Orc as possible, and it succeeded xD
chilly brook
waxen orbit
You are the only human being I have ever interacted with that has that take
proper roost
i mean
waxen orbit
in b4 uninspired onlookers zipping in with a smartass gotcha because they want to feel quirky
daring marlin
in b4 uninspired onlookers zipping in with a smartass gotcha because they want t...
Do you not see the irony in this?
daring marlin
What the fuck was the first thing you said in response to what I originally posted?
fuckin' luhmao
transmog snobs are the weirdest fuckin' people
waxen orbit
While I'm at it we should all be playing brewmaster tank instead
proper roost
are you ok
waxen orbit
(I am baiting because my guildies are egging me on and think it is funny I will stop)
proper roost
🤨
daring marlin
cerulean tusk
To be fair, ya should go play brewmaster. Nelf brewmaster 
warm plinth
My mog skills are 0/10
toxic pewter
Yeah transmog people are pretty mean spirited too. I got called ugly few days ago in game
Just random guy whispered me said I was ugly
crude notch
You should go play rogue so no one has to see your ugly ass mogs @waxen orbit
warm plinth
Oh I didn't mog my crafted belt lul.
crude notch
I'd fuk
crude notch
I'd fuk
waxen orbit
Just random guy whispered me said I was ugly
That's really funny
warm plinth
I had a person message me once that they loved my mog
waxen orbit
That's definitely a joke
daring marlin
Just random guy whispered me said I was ugly
In fairness you do play a troll
toxic pewter
Yeah I was standing org in front of ah
warm plinth
And I didn't even have anything mogged
waxen orbit
I had a person message me once that they loved my mog
Makes me day
toxic pewter
In fairness you do play a troll
Nah I race changed I’m female tauren now
crude notch
Had someone whisper me about my Druid's name
toxic pewter
Female tauren actually better animations than male tauren
toxic pewter
Typo
crude notch
Edit
daring marlin
crude notch
Bro what
crude notch
D4 dropped or are you poor like your mogs
toxic pewter
Honestly I keep race changing I never seem to be happy with the race I guess I’ll end up dwarf eventually. But now I wanna go kul tiran lmao
daring marlin
chilly brook
So yall still gonna play this game when D4 drops
already have it, can only play so long tho
daring marlin
Honestly I keep race changing I never seem to be happy with the race I guess I’l...
KT is LIT.
daring marlin
already have it, can only play so long tho
so like I've only really gotten to level 30 and tbh it feels like a slog
toxic pewter
Ngl they seem kinda cool. But it’s the only allied race I dont have unlocked cuz I’m lazy to finish it
daring marlin
but I'm TOLD that's because I've been on world 2 the whole time
and it ain't worth it to level on world 2
chilly brook
so like I've only really gotten to level 30 and tbh it feels like a slog
kinda feel same
toxic pewter
In 10.1.5 I guess I’ll go kt
waxen orbit
Also the new warrior "buffs" are really just gameplay fun nerfs because they kind of force us to play Thunderlord and that shit is anti-fun and Ignore Pain is being ignored, and that is the root of all of our problems because we aren't provided enough defense against bleed and magic damage, and IP is the only way we have to deal with it aside from inefficient, occasional defensive CDs, like SR, Spell Block, Demo Shout, and Shield Wall
Just forces us to run a specific talent build.
toxic pewter
Nah thunderlord for the poorly informed prot warr
astral crystal
???
chilly brook
Also the new warrior "buffs" are really just gameplay fun nerfs because they kin...
???
astral crystal
thunderlord not good
crude notch
Everything gonna be ZT in 10.1.5 for me catch me with my ugly ass feet
daring marlin
I don't think that's true at all considering thunderlord is still not suggested for 10.1.5
warm plinth
That is uh, quite a take
waxen orbit
Thunderlord is not good I just do not like it
waxen orbit
They're trying to make it a thing
daring marlin
you got me for a second
waxen orbit
If you read the patch notes
waxen orbit
I have played the spec for 11 years and went TH and min-maxed on it idk I think I have a decent basis for my point
chilly brook
I would WELCOME them deleting it and putting DC in its place
pre nerf DC
crude notch
I have played the spec for 11 years and went TH and min-maxed on it idk I think ...
You don't
waxen orbit
It's alright to disagree with it
daring marlin
exactly
daring marlin
pre nerf DC
🤝 a fellow S1 BFA prot woyer enjoyorrrrrr
chilly brook
you don't tho
crude notch
Playing 11 years on a spec doesn't mean what you think it means
daring marlin
I swear this channel was just me, griff and bladesong 24/7 back then
chilly brook
🤝 a fellow S1 BFA prot woyer enjoyorrrrrr
I almost hit 80% uptime 😦
chilly brook
Everyone else is new tho
Guilford was here before you were lol
crude notch
I don't think my original account joined skyhold until like S2 BfA?
crude notch
I checked the logs and Guilford and I got convos dating back to early BfA
daring marlin
my first post in this discord
warm plinth
How many posts we got in here
warm plinth
daring marlin
warm plinth
daring marlin
that's still a lot
waxen orbit
my first post in this discord
Touche]
warm plinth
waxen orbit
Nice
daring marlin
TO BE FAIR
chilly brook
I have played the spec for 11 years and went TH and min-maxed on it idk I think ...
There you go
waxen orbit
Ahh, that makes sense actually
CD misalignment is a good factor to consider
Didn't think of that
warm plinth
Desyncing it from CDs is big sadge
Which is why they should give us DC instead of TL
chilly brook
Like
daring marlin
BASED GHASH
warm plinth
Extending Demo = good, reducing CD = bad
daring marlin
FUCKIN' BASED BASED BASED
chilly brook
The only way we get TL being a thing is if it's Legion TL
daring marlin
and TAKE IT OFF THE FUCKIN' GCD PLEASE
crude notch
daring marlin
daring marlin
This is glorious
warm plinth
who was that lol
crude notch
who was that lol
Me
daring marlin
That is beyond hilarious
crude notch
My original banshee account got deleted because I was trying to ban evade and get back into gallywix to get the mons
toxic pewter
What was your guys first ever wow character race and class
toxic pewter
Mine was troll warrior
daring marlin
idk why but it was
chilly brook
What was your guys first ever wow character race and class
blood elf paladin
back in tbc
daring marlin
It was like 3 weeks before BC came out
crude notch
First ever leveled to max or first ever first ever
daring marlin
I was around level 30 and dueled a Warrior that got in my dead zone
toxic pewter
Blood elf pal was all the rage back then
daring marlin
he bodied me and I logged off and leveled a Warrior
toxic pewter
Still is I guess lmao
warm plinth
My original banshee account got deleted because I was trying to ban evade and ge...
Oh yeah the doctor one or whatever?
crude notch
Yeah
toxic pewter
Dang warrior by duel nice lmao
daring marlin
I eventually made a Paladin but Warrior has always been my MAIN MAIN.
then I sorta juggled warrior and paladin since
flirting with DK a bit too
toxic pewter
Just something about the pace of a prot warr no other tank compares in my opinion. Maybe vdh comes closest
the tempo with charge
crude notch
My first created was a hunter and I can't remember race because I swear it was undead but you couldn't be undead hunter back then. But my first to max was definitely undead priest.
warm plinth
My first was a hunter too
daring marlin
My first created was a hunter and I can't remember race because I swear it was u...
My Hunter was an orc
warm plinth
A tauren hunter named Ryzech
daring marlin
I was STRAIGHT orc for a while
toxic pewter
Hunter is one of most popular classes if I recall correctly. Hunter druid and paladin
daring marlin
look buddy
warm plinth
crude notch
LMAO
daring marlin
I'm gonna slap you so good you're gonna wish I didn't slap you so good
crude notch
I wish you'd slap me good
warm plinth
I got to level 46 then rerolled druid and didn't change mains again until MoP
I still remember getting super psyched when I got the warden staff
chilly brook
I honestly miss my monk ngl
chilly brook
current design tho....
toxic pewter
Warden staff I remember
chilly brook
not sure I want all them buttons lol
warm plinth
Excuse me, DIRE bear form
crude notch
I was disc priest main from ICC until MSV. Then I was Dranei Shaman until FL. Then I was Arcane mage. Then rogue/feral in Deathwing raid that I can never remember.
Then I started actually caring about playing the game well.
Despite already being a legend
warm plinth
I was feral (mostly tank) til MoP, then mained Windwalker til Legion which is when I started alt whoring (though WW still main at that time)
daring marlin
Bear tank at the start of cata
warm plinth
Then BFA I was havoc main, SL was outlaw/sub rogue, and now prot paladin
daring marlin
wtf giga busted
crude notch
every tank was cracked in Cata though was pretty nasty
daring marlin
prot warrior was kinda shit at the start
warm plinth
Cata had some great dungeons
daring marlin
big pepega
crude notch
If mop/cata didn't make you a tank main you weren't ever gonna become a tank main
warm plinth
revamped Deadmines, Stonecore, BRC
All great dungeons
Only one I really didn't like was Throne of the Tides
daring marlin
I was an hpal for a lot of cata tbh
crude notch
Only one I really didn't like was Throne of the Tides
yo i need that shit on M+
daring marlin
I healed my raid with my F U R Y.
toxic pewter
Cata was a great xpac
warm plinth
yo i need that shit on M+
That dungeon would be straight chaos in M+ because so many people wouldn't even know there was a third boss
crude notch
I also think SFK remake is definitely a good M+ dungeon
toxic pewter
Yah cata dungeons owned
warm plinth
Even in heroic back in the day a lot of groups didn't do him
mighty valley
cata dungeons had the one where you killed puppies. F tier forever
daring marlin
I also think SFK remake is definitely a good M+ dungeon
I think so too.
toxic pewter
Lol
crude notch
Of all the cata dungeons they could've picked I think VP or GB are like the worst
warm plinth
Stratholme (both sides) would be really good but they'd have to redo the living side trash to not just be so congested
crude notch
Could you imagine the shenanigans you could do in GB?
crude notch
I wonder if they'd remove the dragon bombing
daring marlin
last boss was amazing
warm plinth
I like Grim Batol, but I don't think the dragon shit has any place in a keystone
toxic pewter
Yeah it would prob be modernized or reworked I bet
crude notch
oh god
daring marlin
all the bosses are good
mighty valley
they could cut that and just reduce the trash somewhat
daring marlin
they had LEGIT mechanics
toxic pewter
Those dungeons were no joke back in the day lol
warm plinth
All the bosses in BRC except the last one had really good design imo
Last one was just dumb tbh
Beauty was a bit uninspired but still a decent boss
crude notch
I feel like dungeons started getting oomph behind them with the 3 ICC dungeons.
mighty valley
bit of an overreaction to all other wrath dungeons being a joke
daring marlin
Pit of Saron was brutal
crude notch
That gauntlet on M+ would actually trigger people so hard
daring marlin
Halls of Reflection jesus fuck
warm plinth
bit of an overreaction to all other wrath dungeons being a joke
True, though I kinda liken the release of those three dungeons to the megadungeons we get now, which are tuned higher than the normal ones.
daring marlin
All the bosses in pit were motherfuckers
warm plinth
Pit was the one with the forgesmith or w/e right
mighty valley
Also everyone was dumber back then
warm plinth
And the disease guy
warm plinth
Yeah those bosses were fucked lol
crude notch
Pit was the one you always wanted of the 3, right?
daring marlin
nah
crude notch
Wait pit was also where skipping started
daring marlin
forge was the one you wanted
crude notch
lol
crude notch
I remember running up the hill as fast as you could
warm plinth
Which one was the one you chased the lich king?
daring marlin
halls of reflection
warm plinth
Gotcha
warm plinth
Probably like Forge>Pit>>>>Halls lol
Also what the hell is Blizzard's deal with having 1800 dungeons named Halls of something
Halls of Reflection, Halls of Stone, Halls of Lightning, Halls of Valor, Halls of Atonement (which didn't even fucking have hallways), Halls of Infusion
crude notch
The concept of a backtal back then was just "If it was a dragon you stayed away from it's tail" but everything else was safe.
mighty valley
brohnjam is the most random reference they ever did
daring marlin
god he was so cool
mighty valley
james brown soul reference so they play... some metal track in the background?
crude notch
I just want dungeons that have good chase items
daring marlin
better trinkets would be cool
chilly brook
I need to level a tauren
crude notch
Gimme Vault again for Faulty Countermeasures.
daring marlin
arcway
daring marlin
I still hope they'll do like
a shared M+ pool that each dungeon has a chance to drop
That'd be neat. 🙂
crude notch
That's honestly what they should do when planning for the future M+ dungeons. "What iconic trinkets did people used to chase after?"
toxic pewter
https://preview.redd.it/tauren-totem-weapon-datamined-in-10-0-7-hope-it-is-a-v0-...
Yah I wanna use that to tank. I guess tauren bdk can do it
mighty valley
yeah i'm not a huge fan of feeling like i should run the same dungeon over and over for the 1% chance i might get the cool item
i guess the vault takes the edge off
crude notch
I like chasing after like forgestorm or dragrul's more than chasing after some crit/haste neck from whereever
hell yeah
gimme this
crude notch
they could also yoink some raid trinkets and put them in dungeons from olden days
daring marlin
they could also yoink some raid trinkets and put them in dungeons from olden day...
That's what I mean by like a shared M+ pool. Just have it be like the FL bosses and it has a chance to drop from any of the dungeons. That'd be fuckin' COOL!
And would allow for something like that.
restive crown
is it normal if my annulet is outsimming 441 ring at 3/5 targets?
daring marlin
yes
toxic pewter
While they’re at it let us level in literally every dungeon pool
mighty valley
is it normal if my annulet is outsimming 441 ring at 3/5 targets?
annulet only really loses on big pulls
daring marlin
There's a reason a vanilla trinket was used for anub'arak
restive crown
annulet only really loses on big pulls
ahh ok no wonder, thank you
daring marlin
luhmao
warm plinth
Remember that trinket from the original Temple of Hakkar that applied the poison or whatever, but it had like a 10 min CD
mighty valley
trinkets were all random garbage until they worked on raid loot and were like "what if trinkets were the best (sometimes only) dps cooldowns on any class"
crude notch
chilly brook
I have now officially removed turn from A&D
chilly brook
lol
chilly brook
I mean practically nothing changed, I always held down right click when pressing A/D anyways
daring marlin
I wanted it so bad on my hpal
chilly brook
this just lets me be better at something like prevoker or anything where I need to be able to move while using mouse to mouseover cast
daring marlin
terrible fight
crude notch
whenever people talk about shitty add fights and how blizzard has never really mastered them i instantly think of that fight
@warm plinth did you ever get brutosaur from all that boosting we did in BfA?
warm plinth
nope
pale hill
so with the buffs to Thunderlord, are we running it for near 100% uptime on Demo Shout in M+?
daring marlin
no
restive scroll
Meh, i liked it.
Not possible in pug, but nice to do in a guild
crude notch
blocked
proper roost
people who thought dark animus was a good fight have selective memory and completely blocked out the fact that it was a fight that you had to solve entirely outside of raid
on a spreadsheet of position assignments
daring marlin
yeah get him
pale hill
how is that bad?
daring marlin
proper roost
anyway just bricked a 15 nelth on my shaman because the group leader stood in every single aoe then said bad heals
ama
proper roost
True
daring marlin
what an IDIOT
proper roost
he used his 25s cd 120k shield 6 times the entire dungeon
toxic pewter
you shouldnt of even been there!!
proper roost
crude notch
just like heal man idk
empty locust
Is spell block worth using on Experiments?
See some using it
just curious to know how much damage it can reduce
jagged pier
Ìt doesnt do anything really
warm plinth
inb4 jakey attack speed slow
empty locust
Real talk: How many people forget to have a stance going? I've just been going through a heap of logs and....it looks like there are more than a few where i cannot see battle stand nor defensive stance....
warm plinth
Logs don't show stances unless you change it midfight
empty locust
Ahh that would be it
south patrol
What’s the biggest things to spell reflect / block in M+?
jagged pier
Its no the totem u reflect jts ghash tooth
ashen coral
Hello I have a question, with the 4p, do we use last stand on cd (or I should say "as your other offensive cd") or do we still have to use it defensively ?
south patrol
Halls of infusion last boss too right ?
jagged pier
Yes but the sr information is in the pins
jagged pier
Hello I have a question, with the 4p, do we use last stand on cd (or I should sa...
U use it on cd not only for teir set but its put or block rotstion with bolster so its not just offensive
ashen coral
U use it on cd not only for teir set but its put or block rotstion with bolster ...
Ok ok thank you
And I guess I can't bind it with shield block and use it as it ?
warm plinth
No, we don't recommend binding anything together
limpid anchor
pallid quiver
He's bringing out the forbidden techniques except on SB get him
warm plinth
You guys wanna see the affix schedule I came up with
It's probably not the right order but I think I got the combos nailed down
proper thunder
You guys wanna see the affix schedule I came up with
oh you mean affixes warris cant do shit about and its whatever affix rly? 🙂
warm plinth
I was just talking about a schedule sir
I'm not bothered by us not being able to do affixes tbh.
I just consider it a free week for me
Let other people worry about that shit
restive scroll
It's probably not the right order but I think I got the combos nailed down
Yes please, i'm curious!
warm plinth
Again, not necessarily in that order (other than the 4 we've had already) but I think those combos are pretty good guesses
restive scroll
We will see indeed!
crude notch
oh you mean affixes warris cant do shit about and its whatever affix rly? 🙂
you can do something about them... and that's not be a lil bish
proper thunder
though guy
the only affix you can provide "any" support for your team is spiteful with intervene which is mostly not needed
all other affix feel like non existent for pwarr
there is no difference what affix is currently, with bolstering you simply dont chain pull and thats it
^feels kinda boring tbh
ionic fern
warm plinth
I mean...you act like we're the only specs that don't do shit for some affixes lol
Warlocks can't provide any support for like 90% of the rotation
They can help with incorp; that's it.
marble cipher
We can help incorp though, not in a very meaningful way, but a clutch stormbolt or fear kinda helps if needed
But, that's semantics I guess, we can't really do all that much 😄
warm plinth
Yeah it's not like we have to stand there and twiddle our thumbs
jagged pier
warm plinth
kek
timber terrace
They can help with incorp; that's it.
Psure you can imp dispell afflicted
warm plinth
You cannot
timber terrace
why tho
warm plinth
Imp dispel is magic. Magic dispels do not work on afflicted.
Has to be curse, poison, or disease
ionic fern
Can't Succubus charm it?
Is Succubus charm still a thing?
Is Succubus still a thing?
timber terrace
I've only done keys on dk this week all I can do is stare at the healer
warm plinth
But warlock is insane at afflicted because you have banish and fear
Both of which take them entirely out of commission
ionic fern
HAHA.
warm plinth
er
ionic fern
Nice one.
timber terrace
I think ppl make those affixes a bigger deal than they really are tbh you only need 2 ppl with a brain in your group to negate them
warm plinth
I didn't play with a lot of warlocks on incorp week but the few that I did had both bound
ionic fern
I think ppl make those affixes a bigger deal than they really are tbh you only n...
That's too much to ask in a pug.
timber terrace
I played with a healer friend in pugs this week and I think only 2 or 3 afflicted casts even went through in 6 or 7 dungeons
ionic fern
Then i just got horrid pug luck.
crude notch
From a tanking pov afflicted is easier, from a healer pov incorporeal is easier. Either way though, neither are hard.
and if you can't deal with either you just brain off.
mighty valley
We could actually solo handle incorp next time around if we feel like it
warm plinth
How's that
marble cipher
With shattering throw? On a 3 min cd? Yeah, I'll pass
warm plinth
That doesn't sound much like soloing it either
And requires us to take an otherwise useless talent
marble cipher
I mean, if it was Wrecking Throw, I might swap a point into it, 45s on a "I kill you" button ain't bad.
But, as it stands now, nope
warm plinth
Yeah if it was on Wrecking Throw, that's justifiable because that guarantees we can get 1 incorp every time
Since they only spawn on 45s intervals
strong forum
Nono having an answer for every single incorp is bad
Clearly shown by most other classes
strong forum
Yeah won't somebody think of everyone else, warri is still the only class in the game which doesnt have a tool for every single wave
marble cipher
We can ... leap out of Entangling 
marble cipher
Buff rogue!
warm plinth
I'm just saying that warrior isn't the only class
strong forum
Yeah
warm plinth
You only need hibernate though because it's spammable 🤷
What's hilarious though is giving shadow priest, an already dominant spec, a second way to handle it that is ALSO a benefit to the party since it reduces damage taken
tidal nimbus
ok so ive been playing prot a bit and i wanna make sure i got the rotation right:
constantly keep ingnore pain and sheild block up, pretty much using your offensive shiz 24/7
marble cipher
What ability is that?
warm plinth
Dominate Mind
sick sentinel
How much do you think we will imporve tuesday
marble cipher
only actively keep SB up, IP is rage dump (but you'll have it up a lot)
crude notch
How much do you think we will imporve tuesday
pin
tidal nimbus
only actively keep SB up, IP is rage dump (but you'll have it up a lot)
yea, normally i refresh it the second it goes away
warm plinth
Well no one should be required or expected to handle both incorps anyway if 2 spawn
warm plinth
yea, normally i refresh it the second it goes away
You don't care about IP uptime directly. Playing properly will result in a fairly high uptime on it by default. But we don't go out of our way to make sure it's up generally.
tidal nimbus
ah alright
crude notch
I'd rather grab cyclone to deal with both then spam hibernate
tidal nimbus
so i only use it when im getting hit by something hard in a sec?
tidal nimbus
and do i just rage dump revenge then?
crude notch
no i know i'm just talking through thought process
crude notch
i'm yogi'ing right now let me cook
warm plinth
okay
tidal nimbus
and prioritise sheild slam
or always revenge and shockwave?
or thunder clap
i mean
warm plinth
and do i just rage dump revenge then?
Prio is SS>TC>Revenge. If you can't dump enough rage to prevent overcapping with Revenge, that's when you'd add in IP
warm plinth
yes
tidal nimbus
ah ok prolly gonna be a big dps increase then heh :D
warm plinth
IP is off the GCD and dumps more per cast, so it's a useful tool if we're drowning in rage (which we usually are, especially during CDs)