@strong forum do you know how sims use burgeoning seed by chance? On CD or?
#protection
inland mesa
425 on a 21 hurts, crests need to come faster on alts 😦
urban portal
is it time
for defensive stance
defensive stance only makes the damage drop by 1 key level
so you still gotta play well
thin phoenix
lowkey i might just sit defensive stance to help out healer
so they can deal with these pesty ghosts
crude notch
just be one of the 3 tanks that can dispel. 🙂
ionic fern
<@192743144276623360> do you know how sims use burgeoning seed by chance? On CD...
All trinkets on CD.
warm plinth
ty cutie pie
flint cliff
Is it worth to use a spark for 447 shield if i have a 441 crit/mast shield atm? Not aiming for world highest keys. Only pugging in the range of 20-22 every season.
fresh igloo
shield ilvl is the single most valuable ilvl slot you can get for prot warrior
fresh igloo
intentional handicap? lol
ionic fern
Doing only 20's so .. 🤷
cursive sparrow
@warm plinth First run and I got a Forge storm on just tryin to get it. Why crit / haste and not with verse? I have read about verse everywhere
I am trying to put my best foot forward'
warm plinth
<@255696891000389633> First run and I got a Forge storm on just tryin to get it....
Vers is a meme that won't die. It's not a bad stat, but we don't stack it like a lot of people seem to think we should. And if you're doing keys, crit is invaluable because most of the damage we take is parryable (crit gives parry chance).
cinder nova
Mwahi how the fuck do I survive M Experiments
crude notch
By keeping your HP above 0
cinder nova
What are they?
warm plinth
Curse of Exhaustion, Numbing Poison
marble cipher
lock curse, rogue poison
ionic fern
Mwahi how the fuck do I survive M Experiments
I used a defensive trinket, stance danced and asked for externals for the times when i could hit nothing.
We diddn't use those AA slows (though should have).
warm plinth
Theoretically if you have more than one rogue, one of them should've been using numbing anyway though. No reason to double up on atrophic
jagged pier
insidious chill as well
marble cipher
does curse + poison stack, or both do the same thing?
jagged pier
all 3 stack
cinder nova
They stack?
marble cipher
kk
ionic fern
Oh, and don't tank the 3rd boss when 2 of them are down. Tank the fat boy.
He melees less.
jagged pier
well they dont stack stack otherwise if u have 2 rogues u could stop the boss meleeing
timber terrace
Mwahi how the fuck do I survive M Experiments
by playing another spec
jagged pier
but they all do reduce the aa speed of the boss
like diminishing returns
not sure how it works
but just know all 3 work together
marble cipher
just keep it at: it's worth to have more than one of them on boss
marble cipher
Frost DK, I think
crude notch
well they dont stack stack otherwise if u have 2 rogues u could stop the boss me...
picturing this just had me laughing too hard
jagged pier
well yer we had a debate because i said they all stack
timber terrace
I'm only half memeing btw prot warrior has literally nothing to do with that boss you're prolly better off using an alt for it or having an offspec tank it
jagged pier
meaning they all effect the boss
in someway
but ppl thought i ment like legit the boss is gunna nearly stop meleeing
but we went to the logs
and found they all do slow
the boss really isnt that bad with AA slows
like barely ever went over 4 stacks
jagged pier
and that at that point is on the healers to actually be healing u
ionic fern
jagged pier
so stance dance
and clear the moment the debuff for the raid drops off
thats what we were doing and it was generally fine
but also we have no rashok trinkets
i think 2 beacons
like 2 backs
1 ashkandi
we have not been lucky with loot
jagged pier
i dont mind it we figured it out for tank at least on monday up to the healers and dps to figure out the rest
generally its okay with AA slows
ionic fern
And running around in last phase.
jagged pier
and i think that will be the same with zaskarn
jagged pier
yer we seen that
but its not a big deal like most of the top guild had 1 or sometimes 2 go in on first kills
ionic fern
More like frustrating.
jagged pier
yes true
bitter lion
Hi folks, I want to start a petition to add a bleed dispell to the war, a "bandage". It's RP and we need it. Who's in ?
marble cipher
this sounds a bit ... strong, for keys, or I'm just reading it all wrong maybe?
proper roost
well it's 411
amber siren
the only RP I'm interested in is pretending I'm good at prot warrior 
proper roost
the actual busted one off WQ ilvl is drogbar rocks
at the key level you'll be doing with that gear, you don't need a defensive trinket
everything will literally die in <10s without doing any damage to you
marble cipher
did you just assume the keylevel I'm doing? 😛
proper roost
No, I already know
marble cipher
which is?
proper roost
You have a 411 defensive trinket and you think it's good
marble cipher
So, what keylevels am I doing, enlighten me
proper roost
Just do your keys, you literally won't even break IPs unless you're playing very poorly
strong forum
this sounds a bit ... strong, for keys, or I'm just reading it all wrong maybe?
You need to take 700k dmg from each target to get full value out of it, after 8 seconds this trinket is then useless for the rest of the fight
marble cipher
I just picked that trinket up from world quest, upgraded it cause it's free, and thought "hey, this sounds a bit strong for such a trinket".
But then you assume I'm doing like what, 11-14 keys @proper roost
Do say how you come to that conclusion
A real answer is Nome's one, thanks for that
proper roost
Generally recommend that if you're actually interested in climbing as a tank not having an ego helps too
marble cipher
right back at you
ripe kelp
anyone want to tank a +19
hardy snow
You need to take 700k dmg from each target to get full value out of it, after 8 ...
isnt it overall mob dmg decrease (including done to rest of party)?
hardy snow
well, tooltip says "its damage done by 20%", not "damage done to you by 20%"
strong forum
Cuz when are mobs in the first 8 seconds of combat doing group dmg
hardy snow
but its still only 8s
so its shit
this debuff would need like 2x duration to even consider it
dry spear
i got the anvil yesterday for "2nd specc" i tested it as prot and it really does good dmg. i got the mark of dragrul and the beacon. maybe the anvil is better for a ST boss and the mark for m+?
strong forum
If you can maintain 5 stacks of anvil in m+, it's way better than margrul
clear sorrel
Hey, anyone else feeling weaker this season?
strong forum
Nop
strong forum
We're arguably stronger this season than last
Cuz 6/8 dungeons are almost exclusively melee dmg
clear sorrel
Maybe my healers have become lazy :p
strong forum
I've not received a consistent direct heal in my keys yet
Outside of the occasional hot
And in Neltharus, thats where you need healing on a few mobs
clear sorrel
I do mostly raids
strong forum
Same story outside of experiments and zskarn
dry spear
the first boss i did with "healing" problems was experiment.
jagged pier
i mean theres no horrible boss outside of zskarn imo
strong forum
Those 2 bosses are where you need healing
But on everyone else my healers don't even touch me
sick sentinel
Best craft ?
dry spear
it becoms hard to handle at 6 stacks imo
clear sorrel
What about agro, I feel I am losing it quicker this season too
dry spear
we killed it yesterday on mythic and i died twice
strong forum
Im stealing aggro from my cotank
strong forum
So he has to sometimes pre-taunt the mechanic
strong forum
So I don't get it twice
clear sorrel
Allright. Ill work on my gear then :p Thanks all
strong forum
Pins
jagged pier
ember token
Im stealing aggro from my cotank
oh so I'm not the only one, not the best thing to do on Rashok or Experiments etc..
echo egret
The beacon... am I defenseless while I'm casting it ?
oblique kayak
yes
lilac bloom
i've got an issue with zkarn heroic.. everytime there's this fiery floor its the unstable ambers right? they hurt us tanks alot.. so we just block on that and move out asap ?
jagged pier
i mean u can see the traps activate before they actually activate
lilac bloom
and does shield block with ignore pain will mitigate damage for 2 of bombs or do we just use shield wall for that
so.. as soon as we see the traps.. we just run away
dont be in it?
jagged pier
yer they spout fire for like 2 seconds before they activate
and umm bombs well block wont do anything to mitigate that damage
if anything your immunity classes should just be dealing with them
lilac bloom
i see.. but for us.. if we have to.. we have to use our shield wall.. most of the pug group have asked us tanks to just run trhough those bombs all 3 of them.. i know when i down this i only get one
and while we are running.. plus the fire patch we end up getting hit alot from the fire damage on the floor.. so i dont know.. i pop cds and healing pots etc
jagged pier
i mean all that damage is avoidable u shouldnt be running into it
so wasting cds on that is kinda dumb
and bombs u should only take 1 at a time if u have too
and u dont need defensives for 1
old sinew
I wonder if keys are scary enough for us to want to use the new cheat death trinket from the mega-dungeon. 8 minute cd, reverts fatal dam and heals you up to around 200k, then gives 20% Dr and 2500 haste for 12 seconds after the proc. Looking like on hard mode it drops at 428 which should be upgradable to 441 (not using upgrade track on the ptr tho)
long stone
@strong forum Last day in wow today for you and me ? For a Long Time ? 😂
strong forum
i hope so
old sinew
In SL we only used cheat death when most of the trinket sucked, not sure the trinkets this season are bad (they don’t seem to be) 🤷♂️
jagged pier
I wonder if keys are scary enough for us to want to use the new cheat death trin...
no
cheat death trinkets are always not needed
old sinew
8 minute is also like ten thousand years lol. I think alar was six minutes
strong forum
and reset on actual death
but also s1 SL keys were vastly different
rn tank dmg doesnt really exist
when in SL s1 tanks had to kite
there are no scary bosses for tanks this season
hardly any scary tank busters besides in neltharus and uldaman
old sinew
but also s1 SL keys were vastly different
Yeah that’s what I was saying not sure keys are scary enough
old sinew
You're a scary boss for tanks
warm plinth
hardly any scary tank busters besides in neltharus and uldaman
Molten Crash when you don't have SR 😏
strong forum
like andy is going for r1 and gearing up 3 tanks again
strong forum
Molten Crash when you don't have SR 😏
SW
and hes not farming any defensive trinkets
jagged pier
i still remeber the amount of ppl that told me they need cheat death for their 15-20s but never proced them once in a run
jagged pier
^
'but if this and that and this happen all at the same time'
i need it
same as the guy saying u needed 25% vers to tank 20s at the start of last season when i had like 10 and was doing them
jagged pier
lilac bloom
so.. this group i'm with we going 3 tank this boss.. hopefuly 1 does the runaround.. collecting bombs
jagged pier
yer thats fine for askarn as well
strong forum
just take 1 at a time
dont have to take all 3 instantly
you have like 20 seconds to eat the bombs
lilac bloom
weird thing is.. even after the debuff drops then walk to another.. damage hurst 2nd and 3rd time
why does it hurt so much
vocal nimbus
Thats life
strong forum
If you slam in another line for massacre, sure
Ya I didn't clean shit up alot
Just alot of "OK what kind of scenarios can I think of"
strong forum
why does it hurt so much
Cuz you can't hit the boss
If you can't hit the boss you don't heal or generate rage
stiff bear
I main fury and being put as bomb tank for Zskarn because our retri decided to stop raiding. I’m not looking forward to it at all, feel like pala can just handle that so much easier
dry spear
does spellblock helps to dumpen the dot dmg from experiments?
cinder pasture
I think it oversimmed if it's on your shield or something ?
jagged pier
ye
stiff urchin
how bad can it be to put shadowflame patch into the shield? I mean, sure, I can now recraft it and put patch into the crafted boots and food buff into the crafted shield, but does it even matter?
jagged pier
it doesnt matter
crude notch
Freehold being 85% melee damage is still so funny to me.
jagged pier
thats 6/8 of the dungeons
rigid badge
I would like to ask you guys how you make sure to follow the right route/do the right pulls in M+? Is there a possibility to visualize the route/pulls? My MDT Map closes after getting into combat and does not show again until I open and reload it on my own
crude notch
just repetition
ionic fern
I would like to ask you guys how you make sure to follow the right route/do the ...
Experience. You will memorize them.
sand crest
I take a screenshot of my routes and put them on the second monitor while I am learning them. (Yes, I know, not everyone has a second monitor). Just what I did
ionic fern
You can also prnt screen on another monitor.
Or print it out on a piece of paper if you really old-school.
rigid badge
You can also prnt screen on another monitor.
Or print it out on a piece of paper...
Nice idea
Thank you
cinder pasture
Go 1 step further and 3D print a model of the whole dungeon with all the packs and the route
oblique kayak
Is it just me or is HOI absolut horrible this week (on 20)
jagged pier
should be chill once u get to the first boss
ppl need to inturpt the orbs late
and use there cc first
as raging
oblique kayak
yeah - ill just keep trying. Thx Jakey
brisk vector
How man Spark of shadowflame should we have by now?
split copper
3
steep harness
I would like to ask you guys how you make sure to follow the right route/do the ...
Piggybacking off of this does the DF version of MDT pull assist work properly? I'm just now getting into M+ and tanking in general too and saw it on reddit.
hardy snow
sims are done on hundreds or thousands of pulls, single checks cant be compared due to lots of random procs dmg (embelishments, forgestorm, SS procs etc.)
warm girder
Not sure what the WA does exactly but wouldn't hekili do the same with higher precision/less manual effort?
tired girder
There is an addon called MTD guide that puts the MTD addon on a small windows where you wanted and automatically zoom to the pack you are doing based on the %.
You don't need extra monitors for that 😁
curseforge.com
https://www.curseforge.com › wow
MDT Guide - World of Warcraft Addons - CurseForge
sick sentinel
the way i do that shit is, i memorize how many monsters in each pull im supposed to be doing unless its like the huge group
so like i might have to pull 10 i think it is at start of frewhold then its 4 to the side and then a group of like 6
so on smaller pull sizes its just oh im pulling in order pack sizes 3 4 4 3 7
split pendant
There is an addon called MTD guide that puts the MTD addon on a small windows wh...
Thanks for this, I am learning routes and have just been prefacing every dungeon with “I’m going to try not to get lost”
sick sentinel
just hold w really, trust your gut
viral bronze
Which side do you take on HOI at the start? My pug groups usually have problem killing the 3 orb in 20+ but I feel the skip could save the key later if some bad thing happens
tame coyote
out of curiosity what sim settings do you guys use from M+, yesterday I learnt that dslice is super misleading, was thinking maybe hectic add cleave is a better bet, but how many bosses would make most sense?
split pendant
I have found that most people are very understanding of variation but will start wildly jumping toward the correct pull when I start going a completely wrong direction
jagged pier
Which side do you take on HOI at the start? My pug groups usually have problem k...
u go right for the skip unlock
jagged pier
out of curiosity what sim settings do you guys use from M+, yesterday I learnt t...
its 3, 5, 7 targets patchwerk
1:00 -1:30 mins
untick bloodlust
and other buff u might not have
sick sentinel
Which side do you take on HOI at the start? My pug groups usually have problem k...
pre boss one right for skip post boss go to hallway rather than room
the large room is full of pepegas that apparently fuck you up
tame coyote
its 3, 5, 7 targets patchwerk
thanks bro, I'll give it a try
viral bronze
Ok thanks I tought the same. I guess we just have to better with cc and self defensive
sick sentinel
how does adding 2 shadowflame armor kits prove its worth? procs mor often i assume?
sick sentinel
spunds good to me
and the stacks dissappear after hitting 5?
i onky tried it kn target dummy for like 2 minutes past night
kind estuary
Anyone have any tips for survival on Mythic Experiments?
I'm at my wits end and am throwing myself at the mercy of the court
crimson mountain
Does anyone go get the engi brez in hoi?
kind estuary
auto attack slows
What do you mean here?
vocal verge
The dk talent and might be others I don’t know of
waxen frigate
curse of exhaustion
Weakness*
jagged pier
what ever it is
they should be being used on all prog anyway
well maybe not the rogue 1
waxen frigate
Just be like my guild’s warlocks and insist there are “plenty of logs without it”
jagged pier
u need 2 rogues
kind estuary
u guys are awesome. Checking logs now to see if any of my locks/rogues are using those
jagged pier
yer our dk said it was too hard to keep it up on 2 bosses
the officers told him to be queit
its a 30 second debuff
its not hard
kind estuary
Where would I see this in logs?
waxen frigate
Where would I see this in logs?
Debuffs tab>enemies
Ctrl+F curse
Or if you have 2 rogues I think numbing?
Idk what the DK one is called we didn’t have a DK on prog
jagged pier
insidious chill
and u can only use the rogue one if yu have 2 rogues
as they have a raid wide one thats more important
sick sentinel
he has to give up his non-lethal posion to apply that
so, its like 3% lower dps, AND,. he has to get in melee range just to use it
jagged pier
oh no 3% so your healers and tanks have a far easier time
sick sentinel
druid = hunter > rogue for raging priority
druid slightly better off, but, its about equal with hunter
sick sentinel
oh nvm im thinking mythic + again
thats the only content im really capable of thinking about
kind estuary
insidious chill
Do all of these debuffs stack?
jagged pier
yes
kind estuary
You guys are awesome
cuz if I get blamed for one more wipe im gonna quit this stupid game
im over here calling for jesus when I get to 8 stacks and everyone is like "just ignore pain"
jagged pier
i havent got to 8 stacks once i think
vocal verge
8 is definitely a lot to have
clear surge
Prot is easy just stay in battle stance and kill everything before you die
kind estuary
so easyu
ruby musk
Prot is easy just stay in battle stance and kill everything before you die
Hesrightyouknow.jpg
left basalt
Shadowflame can't be applied to necks correct?
jagged pier
no clue i dont think so
left basalt
got a 441 raid belt over the 421 flame belt, just planning next crafted piece either bracrs/neck
warm girder
8 is definitely a lot to have
How do you get to 8 stacks? TBF only did it on HC so far. We swap at 4 stacks and insta clear once raid debuff drops. Is M stacking quicker?
warm girder
NVM then 😄
waxen frigate
so, its like 3% lower dps, AND,. he has to get in melee range just to use it
Isn’t non lethal the non Dps poison??
waxen frigate
How do you get to 8 stacks? TBF only did it on HC so far. We swap at 4 stacks an...
Last boss mythic also stacks turbo fast
surreal birch
how much of a damage increase is Forgestorm? I've seen some people getting as much as 3% overall damage from it
ionic fern
how much of a damage increase is Forgestorm? I've seen some people getting as mu...
For you specifically? Sim yourself.
jagged pier
lots
sick sentinel
Isn’t non lethal the non Dps poison??
there is wound poision i think its called that does mortal strike effect and has a chance to deal a large chunk of nature dmg
ruby musk
I probably won't replace it unless I get a higher I'll version of it
surreal birch
I didn't think it's that big, thanks for info, time to farm neltharus 52 times now
ruby musk
I've been getting absolutely trucked on H Echo in P2. I get being knocked out of my body and breaking the walls. But then I'm getting one shot by melee. Is that just a bad tank swap or is there something else I'm missing?
ruby musk
Yeah. I think that's what's happening. It just seems so sudden to go from 100 to 0.
surreal birch
I've been getting absolutely trucked on H Echo in P2. I get being knocked out of...
sounds like bad swap, you get 1M hits when you have the calamity/sunder debuf
urban bane
there is some overlap too, iirc. at least in p3. like the cotank gets punted and if you've already been punted you gotta wait or have some distance for debuff to fall and safely have him hit you again
sick sentinel
maybe wound poison is a lethal and you lose out of instant/deadly poison
waxen frigate
maybe wound poison is a lethal and you lose out of instant/deadly poison
Yes I believe so
sick sentinel
ya so thats the entire reason you never use wound poison, you have instant lol
ruby musk
there is some overlap too, iirc. at least in p3. like the cotank gets punted and...
Hmm maybe that's it. Swapping before checking the debuff to make sure it's gone.
It just seemed weird because the fight isn't too different from normal.
And we do that no problem
I'll pay attention next raid night and see what happens.
Thank you
tropic linden
How the change to incorporeal make us able to help? How do we charm?
sick sentinel
they are nerfing incorp?
thin silo
It doesn't really
Requires speccing into Shattering Throw and the CD is too long to help out with each spawn, and we already have emergency measures
modern brook
maybe wound poison is a lethal and you lose out of instant/deadly poison
it is
modern brook
ya so thats the entire reason you never use wound poison, you have instant lol
you would use wound poison on any fight that has significant healing on it
Instant is like ~1-2% of your DPS
sick sentinel
i know how to rogue, but its been a while
modern brook
unless your assa
in which case you probably just do whatever you want and then complain in the discord about your spec
final mist
It doesn't really
Requires speccing into Shattering Throw and the CD is too long...
That was reverted.
crude notch
No
It was reverted, but then added back yesterday because they fixed the game breaking bug.
sick sentinel
back in my day you could put 2 deadlies on both seperate weapons
tropic linden
they are nerfing incorp?
lavish oracle
How the change to incorporeal make us able to help? How do we charm?
we have an immunity break on shattering throw
tropic linden
Tks
lavish oracle
3min CD and a talent point, still not great for handling incorp but a little better at least
heady jetty
Question for M+
Gearwise, i gain a shitton of stamina and stats swapping the annulet to a 441 ring, sure it's a dps loss on the sims of like 2k which is quite big, but i just can't help feeling i'd benefit quite some when it comes to survival in big keys? Whats your take? 1500stats and 250stamina is quite big imo
dusky canopy
I agree but at least we get something
modern brook
3min CD and a talent point, still not great for handling incorp but a little bet...
And a cast time
dusky canopy
It feels absolutely awful that we can do nothing about an affix
lavish oracle
Yeah
dusky canopy
I still won’t be going shattering tbf
You stop blocking while casting I assume
So not worth
But for dps war it’s nice
crude notch
Tbf, the affix you can do literally nothing about is Afflicted
dusky canopy
Tru
left trout
Does the get rid of immunity mean a priest can mass dispell them?
lavish oracle
I think it's just good that taking a 2nd warrior in a pug doesn't feel like I'm throwing a dps spot away on incorp week
crude notch
So if you're upset by incorporeal you should be infinitely more upset by Afflicted.
dusky canopy
Failed a 20 UNDR last night with Druid,shaman,priest,Evoker, me
Lmfao
Specifically failed due to affix too
daring marlin
hah boosted
crude notch
Although considering the fury warrior I had yesterday did 180k I don't give a shit what they can or can't do to an affix.
modern brook
But for dps war it’s nice
Nah
daring marlin
Warrior owns
lavish oracle
So if you're upset by incorporeal you should be infinitely more upset by Afflict...
I'm annoyed that we have 2 affixes that we just can't dk anything about in the same rotation
daring marlin
Although considering the fury warrior I had yesterday did 180k I don't give a sh...
They're just playing the wrong tank. You and I can solo afflicted.
lavish oracle
Although considering the fury warrior I had yesterday did 180k I don't give a sh...
It won't always be that way and we're gonna have these affixes for a long time
crude notch
You don't know that
daring marlin
Question though, how much do you need to heal it/how much hp do they have?
dusky canopy
160k at +20 iirc
lavish oracle
Unless they're gonna redesign these affixes every season which they haven't stated they have any intention of doing
crude notch
They're just playing the wrong tank. You and I can solo afflicted.
Had to in my 19 FH last night where it was just me and a hunter alive on Trothak. Thankfully earlier in the day I read about the duration of them being 10 seconds which means anyone with a dispel can solo them.
crude notch
If you dispel asap you can get both
I mean you have to use first global on it to get both
daring marlin
bruh LMAO
dusky canopy
Fair it requires quick reaction
daring marlin
PROT PALLY AND BEAR STAY WINNING
modern brook
Nah
to expand (sorry work): in no universe is any war, dps or otherwise going to sit a 1.5s cast time to break a shield just so it can get poly'd on the travel time over. Even in the worst case scenario, you only have it for liek every 4th spawn. its such a low value get, I'd rather just baby sit the add and focus kick it after a stun
lavish oracle
Well, you're assuming there are no other dispels that need to go out
daring marlin
PROT WARR ON SUICIDE WATCH
modern brook
if its on wrecking thats something else
lavish oracle
Which is mostly true in FH, I suppose
dusky canopy
PROT PALLY AND BEAR STAY WINNING
Bro I think I gotta play the rage brother this season FFS 🤦♂️
dusky canopy
if its on wrecking thats something else
Would be insane on wrecking
daring marlin
Good thing if you have people to assist you could match your main's ilvl in a week
dusky canopy
I vote for it
daring marlin
DO IT
modern brook
Would be insane on wrecking
no more insane than imprison
crude notch
Telling you, there's a reason the three tanks I'm gearing this season are Bear, Brew, and Pally.
dusky canopy
Not like op insane, like would be a sick change insane, definitely needed
modern brook
true
crude notch
Monk Incap is up every incorporeal and is instant
lavish oracle
to expand (sorry work): in no universe is any war, dps or otherwise going to sit...
I think it's just nice to have the option, I don't think you automatically talent shattering throw incorp weeks but if you end up in a group with like a rogue and 2 warriors or whatever, it's nice to have some way to address the issue
dusky canopy
I’m focusing on living
modern brook
I think it's just nice to have the option, I don't think you automatically talen...
right but like you still dont in that group lol
dusky canopy
Personally
daring marlin
Well duh
dusky canopy
crude notch
I'm still waiting for an int weapon so I can start playing Boomie resto in keys too.
Doing heroic tonight, pray for 4p
lavish oracle
Been thinking about gearing my bear
daring marlin
you will get nothing like I did
crude notch
And rashok trinket
crude notch
you will get nothing like I did
It's been so sad
lavish oracle
My druid's been a flower bot for far too long
daring marlin
I had some dick need for his friend and trade it to him
crude notch
Oof
crude notch
Love to see it
daring marlin
That's okay, though. I was vibin'
dusky canopy
I’ve given 4 hours to H sark pugging so far this week. It’s getting real old dying in p3 to people tunneling and not doing the freaking bombs or adds getting kicks off
crude notch
I was dumb and used my ksm token Tuesday not knowing I'd be raiding heroic today
daring marlin
It's crazy cuz P3 is fucking sleeper after the transition
daring marlin
🙏
dusky canopy
Right like literally do tank mechanic right
Los rock
Do bombs
Win
I don’t get it
daring marlin
Funny enough, the group I was in last night wiped at 3% because one of the tanks straight up forgot to go down.
It was made funnier by the fact the leader was being paid by someone to get carried to AOTC.
dusky canopy
Ooofff that’s a rough one sub 10% wipes are the worst
Had kick ass healing last night all 4 doing 100k+ in a 19 man
But you can’t heal bombs going off
Or tank not going down
daring marlin
The lead is one of the most toxic MFers on the planet and hard rages at pugs in VC too. Even better is his friends are why we wiped every time.
dusky canopy
Rip
daring marlin
just lmao
dusky canopy
Sounds like free entertainment for a pull or two
Ngl
Maybe just intentionally cleave as many people as you can in p3 on the first pull then leave
daring marlin
It was quite entertaining.
dusky canopy
Type of entertainment
tight robin
How does Beacon of The Beyond works?
Are we not blocking during channel?
dusky canopy
Dick move to waist everyone else time though but lead reaction would be hilarious I bet
untold adder
hey guys. i havent used any sparks yet; would you still prio to upgrade shield first? i have HC raid shield
dusky canopy
How does Beacon of The Beyond works?
Are we not blocking during channel?
You press button, target dies, profit
final mist
The only way you can get a higher shield is by mythic raiding or a lucky weekly vault open as Prot
So yes
dusky canopy
hey guys. i havent used any sparks yet; would you still prio to upgrade shield f...
I would do shield > belt > neck
untold adder
aight thanks 🙂 !
crude notch
I still haven't used any sparks on my Pally lol
tight robin
Should i only use it on opening?
daring marlin
Neeeeeeck
tight robin
or mid packs aswell?
daring marlin
I still haven't used any sparks on my Pally lol
I made FF legs and shadow boots.
final mist
Honestly just get a different neck and craft Bracers or something with Shadowflame
daring marlin
Gonna make FF belt next for ret.
final mist
Lariat kinda dog without many sockets
daring marlin
Despite basically being an embellishment down and no 4pc I still deep dick people in dps
dusky canopy
aight thanks 🙂 !
To clarify replace neck with a non embellished one and then either go x2 shadowflame armor patch or 1x + frost fire belt
daring marlin
ret ez
untold adder
yea i think ill go 1 patch, 1 frost fire
untold adder
thanks; i got aspects enough to make shield now, will do belt and then probably bracers or boots when ive farmed more aspects..
dusky canopy
That works yup
crude notch
I already am wearing ffb from season one so I probably just extend that and then put shadow on something else that isn't shield in case I want to ret and then spend my third spark on a shield
untold adder
RET?
dusky canopy
I’m actually curious
Can shadowflame go onto neck?
No right because it’s jewelry and not armor?
crude notch
RET?
Yes I'm conversing with Guilford about my life goals
Correct it's an armor patch
So needs to go on armor
Silly goose
crude notch
Yeah I did flavor pocket on ring on my Bear.
daring marlin
Yes I'm conversing with Guilford about my life goals
🤝
I just wanted a crumb of toer from raid
crude notch
Since that ring will only be used for keys since it outsims Annulet in AoE
dusky canopy
I’ve been running annulet still on tyr weeks with freezing stone
daring marlin
I could get gloves or pants from vault
dusky canopy
But otherwise the 447 Crit/haste ring I have for fort weeks
daring marlin
still T29 shoulder and hands 
crude notch
My Bear looking like a snack thiccer than a snicker 950k base hp
sick sentinel
KEK they followed me off and i used charge to save my self
quiet minnow
you guys ever not look at your talents for a while and just randomly open it up and see the most cursed thing of fall time
crude notch
I’ve been running annulet still on tyr weeks with freezing stone
Yeah was thinking of doing this.
untold adder
is it worth spamming NELT for the 1h? is it "just that good" or like 0.2% better than a stat-stick wep at same ilvl?
dusky canopy
I like to optimize my ST on tyr weeks
crude notch
But 1400 secondaries is also enjoyable
quiet minnow
is it worth spamming NELT for the 1h? is it "just that good" or like 0.2% better...
it doe a shit load of dmg
dusky canopy
It’s small but I think it helps
crude notch
Spam it or your life is meaningless
dusky canopy
is it worth spamming NELT for the 1h? is it "just that good" or like 0.2% better...
Absolutely
daring marlin
I'm down to 4k haste on my prot pally and it makes me angry
dusky canopy
Poghammer is hard BiS even at 441
untold adder
alright damn
severe temple
hey what makes protwarr C tier on subcreation? Is it just that for most tank mains think it is not fun to play prot warr anymore, is it weak defensively/offensively or is it a lack of utility?
crude notch
Popularity
dusky canopy
Idiocy*
crude notch
Subcreation is purely about popularity.
severe temple
yeah but why? is it just not fun anymore or what
quiet minnow
hey what makes protwarr C tier on subcreation? Is it just that for most tank mai...
its that prot paladins exist-- thats the primary reason. there currently isn't any reason to bring a tank other than prot pala to a pug really. so people just bring them more
dusky canopy
People foaming at the mouth over paladin utility
crude notch
And actually doesn't portray differences in tanks at all
nimble sluice
For M+, would you run a 424 onyx and 421 durna (with belt) over 441 haste + mast/crit/vers rings?
quiet minnow
also blizzard created 2 affixes that paladins deal with better than anyone else
and warriors cant deal with at all
crude notch
If you remove utility from the picture all tanks are pretty even.
dusky canopy
Paladin is not miles ahead like everyone thinks they just have more useful utility
It’s pretty much unmatched
crude notch
also blizzard created 2 affixes that paladins deal with better than anyone else
Okay bud let's chill with the hyperbole
quiet minnow
is that not the most important thing ?
crude notch
Monk deals with incorporeal better than Pally
daring marlin
People foaming at the mouth over paladin utility
They gotta stop, frankly. Prot Pally is just good.
They always have that utility. They're just finally not made of Raditz.
dusky canopy
Right I agree
quiet minnow
im not a prot doomer, i still like it and obviously you can tank any key with any tank, but if you're just a pug tank with no class loyalty, is there a legitimate reason to pick anything other than prot pala rn?
crude notch
Ironically people are losing their minds about this support spec coming out when Prot Pally has been the pinnacle support all this time.
dusky canopy
People only recognize the utility because the tank is finally not paper
left trout
Pally has 2 cc if required for the incorp they are better than most classes
dusky canopy
im not a prot doomer, i still like it and obviously you can tank any key with an...
Unfortunately no not from that perspective
crude notch
That's like saying Bear has two ccs for it as well
You're not taking turn evil AND repentance
daring marlin
Pally has 2 cc if required for the incorp they are better than most classes
Warlock, Hunter and they're better suited for it with longer range.
quiet minnow
Warlock, Hunter and they're better suited for it with longer range.
were talking about tanks though
i agree for other classes
daring marlin
You're not taking turn evil AND repentance
I have. Wasn't necessary, though.
left trout
As I said if required
dusky canopy
My key last night literally proves that it’s irrelevant what a class brings
daring marlin
were talking about tanks though
Not necessary for the tank to do it.
crude notch
Screw giving up blinding light
dusky canopy
It’s what the player is capable of
crude notch
Never
chilly brook
Ironically people are losing their minds about this support spec coming out when...
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, no one cares about utility until the spec itself is busted then all of a sudden all the “but the utility is unmatched” bs comes out
crude notch
Yep
quiet minnow
Not necessary for the tank to do it.
well no, of coruse not, but im just saying that its just another notch for pala
chilly brook
It happened with DK in legion
quiet minnow
well dk was giga busted
dusky canopy
I’m still salty
chilly brook
It happened with prot in BFA
daring marlin
The tank COULD do it but in a group with half a brain they'll tell the pally(like my group did) to focus on kicks.
chilly brook
Now it’s happened with pally in SL/DF
ornate lodge
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, no one cares about utility until the ...
this is 100% correct
left trout
In a pug you come prepared for a full carry every group
chilly brook
Next it’ll be bear in 10.1.5
ornate lodge
meta m+ is determined by dmg and the utility argument comes after
chilly brook
dusky canopy
Hard agrees griff
crude notch
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, no one cares about utility until the ...
PWar when meta: "OMG LOOK AT PWARS UTILITY IT HAS ALL THESE STOPS AND SHOUTS"
PWar when not meta: "PWar can't be taken because it offers nothing to the group."
daring marlin
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, no one cares about utility until the ...
I'm sitting here like Hans Landa waiting for then to buff prot warrior damage
dusky canopy
It’s more like “Prot war blocks to much” literally unfair
daring marlin
They'll all dump pally for warrior
left trout
To many classes have aoe stun when I'm saving mine and it does nothing feels bad
crude notch
There's actual people that think Spellwarding is new
The only new thing in PPal kit is sentinel.
quiet minnow
Ok but it’s not just meta slaves lol like 3/4 of s1 titles went to prot pala
chilly brook
Honestly can’t wait for bear to become meta, and then you’ll see some wild bear main who does a bunch of off meta utility shit like popping out of bear form during specific segments of a fight or while kiting to help heal and all of a sudden people will rave about bears ability to do weird things
crude notch
Which is broken AF, but
ornate lodge
Ok but it’s not just meta slaves lol like 3/4 of s1 titles went to prot pala
cause no one cares what tanks play on raid farm so they reroll to anything
quiet minnow
cause no one cares what tanks play on raid farm so they reroll to anything
So they reroll to pala for shits?
dusky canopy
Yeah utility mostly doesn’t decide meta, it’s classes damage
quiet minnow
Nah it’s cause it’s legit better lol
novel swift
Yo gang, what would you spend sparks on if you were to only play m+, mostly prot but sometimes dps?
crude notch
Honestly can’t wait for bear to become meta, and then you’ll see some wild bear ...
LMAO I freaked some people out in keys already when swapping out to help heal on chorgath
dusky canopy
It’s like what’s the least amount of utility we can get away with so we can optimize damage
Always is
quiet minnow
Yeah utility mostly doesn’t decide meta, it’s classes damage
Guess we will see at end of s2 if vdh tops
I’d bet it’s still pala
crude notch
I mean what ends up majority played is already decided.
chilly brook
LMAO I freaked some people out in keys already when swapping out to help heal on...
Honestly it’s what made me mess with bear in bfa
ornate lodge
proportion of titles=/=spec strength
quiet minnow
Honestly can’t wait for bear to become meta, and then you’ll see some wild bear ...
Love bear can’t wait for it to be cool again
sick sentinel
one of the most frustrating things about pugging keys to me of all is
chilly brook
I did enjoy it back then, for some reason I find it painfully boring now and last xpac tho
sick sentinel
the healers fucking mana
tropic marsh
Am I wrong to think that revenging as a rage dump kinda feels bad? I find myself over using ignore pain so I can use my gcd for Tclap or SS
quiet minnow
proportion of titles=/=spec strength
It’s a pretty good idea of it though.
dusky canopy
It’s a feel thing chaser
chilly brook
Am I wrong to think that revenging as a rage dump kinda feels bad? I find myself...
Yes
crude notch
Like Pally is going to be majority played because people have already geared it. I would not be surprised though if VDH's damage makes it do keys that others cannot in the end.
sick sentinel
healer mana bar and party hp can be ANYWHERE and healer is bitching im not pullling enough or they need more mana
left trout
Revenge is a good button just use it
tropic marsh
And also, is sidearm that much better than barbaric if you have to rage dump with revenge anyways? Idk
sick sentinel
or, hard to know if i CAN or CANT pull boss when they have 40% say
quiet minnow
Like Pally is going to be majority played because people have already geared it....
It takes like literally 2 days for these guys to gear up a new player, gearing is not the reason
dusky canopy
This season is tgp right
chilly brook
Idk the revenge dynamic is simple, am I going to overcap? If yes press IP. If no press revenge.
quiet minnow
They’ll hard swap if it’s worth it
strong forum
Am I wrong to think that revenging as a rage dump kinda feels bad? I find myself...
over-sending IP is a dps and surv loss
over-sending revenge is a dps and surv loss, you gotta do both
dusky canopy
Everyone will swap after tgp
crude notch
It takes like literally 2 days for these guys to gear up a new player, gearing i...
You really underestimate the level of laziness of the common player
sick sentinel
This season is tgp right
i think nome says TGP "cuz its too short of a season for MDI"
crude notch
What
sick sentinel
but, it also has a like, 300k prize for frist place i wanna say
dusky canopy
It’ll be like oh this grouped needed X tank to do a +30!?
strong forum
And also, is sidearm that much better than barbaric if you have to rage dump wit...
BT doesnt allow you to use IP as often and you cant fish for SS procs as easily with it, itll rage starve you in the end, and sidearm is absolutely a bigger gain than BT
dusky canopy
I guess I need it for my 20
ornate lodge
barbaric feels like ass to play with
dusky canopy
It does
chilly brook
All I know is I hit a 95 parse for my ilvl as devoker last night
dusky canopy
It rage starves you
chilly brook
sick sentinel
thats because its an ass talent
strong forum
despite revenge being "so low prio" i use it JUST AS OFTEN as thunderclap
crude notch
No they're alternating MDI and TGP this year. S1 is MDI, S2 is TGP.
strong forum
if you change that with BT, using revenge less, you have less SS resets
crude notch
They did both in one season in SL because seasons were 8 months long
But we're cooking out seasons in DF.
dusky canopy
I really really like this fast pace season style
I hope they stick with it
I personally like the quick gearing also but I know that’s a hot topic lately
crude notch
Faster than Legion
chilly brook
Iirc
crude notch
No DF has not
dusky canopy
Yeah about
chilly brook
I guess it’s a relative thing
crude notch
Oh you said half a year
crude notch
I thought you said a year I was like come on bruh
nimble sluice
Do people still run Dura's ring at all for M+ with belt, or just 440+ ring with haste?
dusky canopy
I do
crude notch
This is faster than Legion. Which was a pace that people loved
chilly brook
I’m just happy that it’s a good fun xpac
quiet minnow
content pace for legion was excellent, grinding pace for legion was too frenetic and this season came near it
strong forum
Do people still run Dura's ring at all for M+ with belt, or just 440+ ring with ...
my ring gets replaced by 437+socket soon ye
chilly brook
I think the thing I’m most happy about is the cadence of tuning
quiet minnow
i could not keep up with the grind in legion and i was playing more than i ever have in my life
chilly brook
They’ve been on fire with fixing outliers tbh
Whether that’s bosses, dungeons or specs
nimble sluice
my ring gets replaced by 437+socket soon ye
I have the choice of onyx + duras and 2x haste/mast 441 rings, not sure what I should be doing for keys
quiet minnow
nighthold is my fave raid of all time
kind estuary
Im looking for a WA or addon that tracks "external defensive cooldowns" that can be used on me. I have a raid cooldown tracker through ERT. but I want to just see an icon for things like sac, bark, GS, etc and if its on CD or if its available. Anyone got anything like this?
quiet minnow
the suramar setup to it, the mix of classic wow stuff with guldan and illidan
dusky canopy
I actually loved the AP grind and AP weapon
chilly brook
Alongside mop
I regret not playing mop
quiet minnow
it was just perfect
dusky canopy
Very fun to me
crude notch
The .0 of Dragonflight was the best .0 we've had since probably mop.
tropic marsh
BT doesnt allow you to use IP as often and you cant fish for SS procs as easily ...
Cheers. We also still like Brutal Vitality over Fueled by Violence? I saw some people using FbV but again, it doesn't Feel as good as BV does
ornate lodge
Im looking for a WA or addon that tracks "external defensive cooldowns" that can...
omnicd
craggy pilot
wow just had a Holy Paladin take this trinket from my Warlock
does it even proc from Holy Paladin spells... :<
dusky canopy
A holy paladin
crude notch
And that's the only comparison we can do now.
dusky canopy
Wow
strong forum
I have the choice of onyx + duras and 2x haste/mast 441 rings, not sure what I s...
onyx+dura until you get fat haste/crit rings
dusky canopy
My plan is to rock them until I get both 447 rings
strong forum
Cheers. We also still like Brutal Vitality over Fueled by Violence? I saw some p...
i think brv is better
dusky canopy
I like brv because it adds to you preventing damage
tropic marsh
Without BRV I feel like my IP doesn't last long, but the healing seems pretty good. And I can fish for more resets since I have IP almost at all times
dusky canopy
Fbv heals damage taken
crude notch
Nome what's the hype level at?
nimble sluice
onyx+dura until you get fat haste/crit rings
I do have a Eternal Sentry's ring which is massive crit, small haste I can pump to 441, would you use that over dura and keep onyx?
strong forum
yeah thats a good ring i use that one
ornate lodge
sim it
strong forum
Nome what's the hype level at?
just woke up
rn im just wishing id have slept longer
crude notch
Lol
ancient cosmos
Took 60 runs or so, but got a 17+ forgestorm.
chilly brook
Btw this trinket is absolutely wild
strong forum
and i dont wanna go grocery shopping but i should
quiet minnow
I actually loved the AP grind and AP weapon
i loved the artifact weapons, and the class halls are still some of the coolest content wow has ever put out imo, but the grind being uncapped was just too much
strong forum
Btw this trinket is absolutely wild
thats some lucky rng
dusky canopy
Theres plants for that nome
crude notch
I tried to nap GGs me I guess
dusky canopy
strong forum
43% uptime is insane
dusky canopy
Sleeping that is
strong forum
I tried to nap GGs me I guess
ya i napped for 4hrs
quiet minnow
thats not a nap brother
chilly brook
thats some lucky rng
I feel like uptime is insanity in general on devoker
quiet minnow
thats a short sleep
strong forum
thats a nap :angy:
chilly brook
Had 30% uptime on Rashok
strong forum
ah devoker
yeah that might be diffy
or is it the same item
cuz at that uptime its just disgusting
30% mainstat with 30-40% uptime is broken
crude notch
Yeah was gonna say
chilly brook
Outside of assault the lowest uptime I had was 20%
chilly brook
Just got it on Tuesday from normal
quiet minnow
god i cant get over this im literally so shook
i cant stop thikning about it
weeks
jagged pier
🤷
strong forum
i once killed echo of nelth and sark without ravager
i didnt even notice
still got 98/99 however
but it hurt to realise afterwards
crude notch
Bruniss you should post that every hour
chilly brook
i once killed echo of nelth and sark without ravager
F
daring marlin
Btw this trinket is absolutely wild
want that shit on my pally 
chilly brook
Speaking of sarth, I’m so surprised people don’t want to do the bombs
Like it’s free giga damage
quiet minnow
i once killed echo of nelth and sark without ravager
just a power move tbh
sick sentinel
god i cant get over this im literally so shook
quiet minnow
Speaking of sarth, I’m so surprised people don’t want to do the bombs
its cause its scary to have responsiblity that could wipe the raid
some ppl dont like that
chilly brook
I literally get Madge when people snipe a bomb from me
crude notch
you sure
Yeah because it's better than your current rate of 30 minutes. Annoying little bish
quiet minnow
it could give 500% more damage and 2/3 of people still would not want to do it cause if you mess up its your fault
quiet minnow
Yeah because it's better than your current rate of 30 minutes. Annoying little b...
big mad for tiny man with be kind in profile
crude notch
quiet minnow
be btter friend
daring marlin
9 hours
crude notch
((For legal purposes, this was a joke))
crude notch
I was hoping if I used it enough people would stop taking me seriously, but alas
crude notch
So dope
quiet minnow
I was hoping if I used it enough people would stop taking me seriously, but alas
its hard to tell with text tbh, there are some rude ass ppl on discord, so i default to assume ppl just being rude
craggy pilot
A holy paladin
oh wait nvm bro, he told me he took it for Retri 🤣
"maximum dmg at 20 yards"
is paladin
crude notch
There no more confusion
daring marlin
its hard to tell with text tbh, there are some rude ass ppl on discord, so i def...
Jordan is rude. In a loving way.
daring marlin
ILU J
chilly brook
"maximum dmg at 20 yards"
*is paladin*
Bro ret is a caster now
crude notch
its hard to tell with text tbh, there are some rude ass ppl on discord, so i def...
Nah, totally understandable. I know I come off as an ass a lot but I truly am joking 99.9%.
chilly brook
They have more range than me
craggy pilot
Bro ret is a caster now
idk man guy is a wood player or some shit
chilly brook
actually unironically pretty sure they can use finishers at a longer range than I can cast
craggy pilot
at bloodmallet it sims less than his previous 411 even if it was 447
chilly brook
Lol
quiet minnow
Nah, totally understandable. I know I come off as an ass a lot but I truly am jo...
thankfully ya got an easily recognizable name so now i can remember
crude notch
LMAO
quiet minnow
rip
chilly brook
Quick change the name so he forgets
crude notch
There
Hello who has a plater script for Afflicted
I know it has to be doable
Where's the people that can actually can do something to the affix? @daring marlin @warm plinth
crude notch
I really want to figure out how to script afflicted that's how I do
Seems simple
ah
it's not listed as an npc
end me
that explains why you can't @ afflicted soul it
craggy pilot
anyone have an Avalanche WA for Lair?
wet atlas
Question for Searing Claws on Heroic, anything I can do to help mitigate the damage on me? Feels like 8-9 stacks is jacking me up
jagged pier
aa slows
but 8-9 should be managable
healers just need to heal tanks a bit more than they are used too
crude notch
omg you key lovers see this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=e8fI5O1uY8I&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDI4NjY2&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=jynxycats
This the gauntlet in the new megadungeon
It's Mechagon on crack
crude notch
What?
jagged pier
well m+ mega dungeon is the patch after it comes out
crude notch
I doubt it'll exist at all in m+
I mean the mechagon maze still existed.
crude notch
well m+ mega dungeon is the patch after it comes out
Yes i'm aware but what's up your ass today
jagged pier
so as nopme said it will ither be gone or nerfed from the m+ version
strong forum
Yeah but that maze was legit just 3 seconds long
And not a seperate phase
This looks like a boss phase
Or hard mode thingy
crude notch
True they're notoriously known for removing gauntlets they put in megadungeons
🙂
Junkyard certainly didn't have a boss with a gauntlet that took roughly 20 seconds
hardy snow
this gauntlet looks cool 
crude notch
And Workshop certainly didn't have a gauntlet with a fail mechanic sending you back to the start and took more than "just 3 seconds"
strong forum
This guy just spent 30seconds running through a fast paced maze only to get sent back to the beginning
Those 2 aren't even comparable
But yes
It may well be in, but it'll be a gigantic outcry from casuals who will be stuck in there
For hours
crude notch
HK-8 gauntlet intermission definitely didn't send you back to the start either, true.
crude notch
Exactly
crude notch
how do you know?
urban bane
lol quite a leap
jagged pier
u could legit leap over the whole distance of the other 2
crude notch
No you couldn't, stop with the hyperbole
urban bane
well yeah jakey but they could change heroic leap to cover twice the distance you dont know
crude notch
You could not
jagged pier
well yeah jakey but they could change heroic leap to cover twice the distance yo...
it would need to be like 5 lengths
jagged pier
You could not
u could because i did it all the time
crude notch
You're actually being a tool at this point
You could not clear the entire gauntlet with a leap
solemn current
Which one? Junkyard? You for sure could. I did it every one. The workshop one? You basically could. You walked up past the easy part and leaped majority of the crowded part. Basically the entire part where you would need to dodge and use vents.
crude notch
You'll do these easy part here and then leap to the finish, ez game.
crude notch
And once someone finishes it you can take a port
jagged pier
after disagreeing with i say as usual
prisma crane
wow so rude today
you don't need to add the "today"
jagged pier
even tho what i said wasnt wrong at all
prisma crane
and you 100% could leap that stuff in mechagon lmao, idk what the purpose of this hill he's choosing to die on is
crude notch
I didn't say you couldn't leap it at all
crude notch
You said you couldn't jump this one at all.
prisma crane
leaping everything that's relevant may as well be leaping it all
crude notch
Which was false
prisma crane
and the one in junkyard you COULD leap all at once
prisma crane
you're being willfully ignorant lol
crude notch
Krotos go back to crying on the forums about Pain and Gain
prisma crane
honestly cannot remember the last time i've even been in those forums at all
crude notch
or telling people they can't play what they want
prisma crane
you might be the king of poor reading comprehension
solemn current
Lol my man sounds mad upset holy shit
crude notch
lol arbiter is new
prisma crane
at least it seems pretty clear Jordan is a professional troll
crude notch
okay mr. gatekeeper
prisma crane
i just dont see how people have this kind of time
crude notch
go tell people what they can and can't play again
prisma crane
it borders on sociopathy
solemn current
I’ve been a part of the warrior community since wrath and frequented the theorycrafting community on mmo champ before discord forums were a thing I’m definitely not new. I just don’t post here much at all these days.
wary spire
whats the point of the mega dungeon anyway
solemn current
You’ve been part of this discord for a month I’ve been here since 2018 my man lmao
prisma crane
whats the point of the mega dungeon anyway
to fill the same role as Taszavesh and Mechagon have
solemn current
You like baby raging out the discord or something?
ionic roost
Damn back to back days and Jordan got his jimmies rustled in a different discord, guess it wasn't me and it was you yesterday
crude notch
Just dungeons they add midway through the expansion. They've done it pretty much since forever
You had the 3 lich king dungeons in Wrath that came out for ICC
crude notch
You like baby raging out the discord or something?
lol no i did it to prove a point that the date changes
fresh igloo
You like baby raging out the discord or something?
oh did jordan leave and come back again
prisma crane
guys, we're a bundle of misunderstandings, be kind
prisma crane
crude notch
Damn back to back days and Jordan got his jimmies rustled in a different discord...
back to back days?
toxic pewter
crude notch
lol apb
Living rent free in Ruck's head is not where I thought I'd live it's pretty empty in here though
ionic roost
you were shit disturbing in the Monk discord, don't think recognition is living rent free
crude notch
Hey he's the one bringing drama across multiple discords
crude notch
TRUE
copper lava
I’m cringe by nature tho
strong forum
cringe but free
crude notch
LMAO
dusk wadi
Fellas, I keep having some aggro issues and I cant seem to figure it out. Like easily losing threat early
any ideas?
remote venture
You have to get all the mobs in your AoE and attacks to keep aggro