protection

[cinder monolith]

I’ve hit 300k on prot warr some pulls

[sick sentinel]

sometimes i like to look at the graph

[cinder monolith]

4 set go brr

[crude notch]

Feels particularly weird to have gotten a enchanted wyrm from sark quest but like, i already had no need for it.

[sick sentinel]

extended graph i pulled it up on outplayed

the rest of the key was extremely boring and the spriest only did this once, so thus i cropped it

[cinder storm]

Based yogi

[dusty monolith]

how does one even view those graphs in details?

[crude notch]

wait that's bromach

with the damage amp

[sick sentinel]

once the dungeon completes, you get a one time option to view it far as i know

[dusty monolith]

thats the trash after bromach i think

[crude notch]

yogi when was this

((inb4, idk.))

[sick sentinel]

yesterday

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-2/6283946-12-uldaman-legacy-of-tyr

im still not doing 20s for some reason, or even 15's i could have last night

[crude notch]

goddamnit

when was the peak

not when was the dungeon

[cinder monolith]

MoP I’d say was the peak

[crude notch]

that's cringe

[sick sentinel]

im not entirely sure when the peak was

cuz what im pulling at 5:50 is a custodian pack

[torn gulch]

i hope you were sarcastic

[remote venture]

Hero Gear in Vault when run +8 are insane!

[torn gulch]

yea being at 440+ in 2-3 weeks in what looks to be a 5-6 months season is too quick

for casuals the gearing speed is alright

[modern brook]

smh

gives everyone time to learn their fucking classes

[south patrol]

What keybinds do y’all use for ignore pain, shield block , shield wall , a avatar , demo shout and last stand ? I am trying to get away from being a clicker on those spells

[narrow bough]

u should just throw them on some key and just play with it. u will get muscle memory to it

[cinder storm]

What I did is, I put my main spells 1-X, like revenge, SS, SB, my utility and oh shit buttons on ctrl+# and the rest on shift+#

Everyone and their mother who owns one of those mouses with 12-16 buttons swear by it

[cinder monolith]

R, V, ctrl + E, shift + 1, shift + V, ctrl + 3

[limber temple]

Mouse Wheel Up, Mouse Wheel down, Shift +3, Shift + Mouse Wheel up, Q, Ctrl+3

[crude notch]

such high faith

[thorny stone]

friendly reminder to press last stand before key start to have earthen smash rolling at first pull, good luck with keys this week guys

[crude notch]

I don't trust you

((for legal purposes, this was a joke))

[modern brook]

my mouse has 2 side buttons; IP and sB are on those. the other 4 are on my "CD" keys which are RTG and modifiers

[crude notch]

I play with a piano keyboard

[blazing condor]

D, S, 3, X, 2, Shift + Q

[dusty monolith]

q, e, mouse buttons for wall, last stand and avatar, shift 1 for demo

[dusky canopy]

God what awful bind suggestions

[dusty monolith]

[dusky canopy]

Be a normal person and put your main buttons on 1-5 and shift 1-5

[toxic pewter]

is leech still better than avoidance in keys since they nerfed it iirc

[blazing condor]

there are no bad binds just bad players

git gud and play what you want

[dusky canopy]

Not you specifically, I’m just messing around

[dusky canopy]

Inb4 “Bro why no timer my LS”
leaves key

[dusky canopy]

Fairly confident as tank we still want leech because we get a lot of value from it

[crude notch]

i'll do that for incarn

[dusky canopy]

Dps want avoidance

[crude notch]

if you don't countdown for my pre-incarn

i leave

[dusky canopy]

[crude notch]

I actually don't

[dusky canopy]

That’s going to be me now

Pre LS or bust

[crude notch]

but it's a much bigger deal than pre-ls

[dusky canopy]

Are you discrediting the value of my button!?

[crude notch]

Like I either get 60 seconds of incarn or back to back pulls of incarn

[thorny stone]

i miss precasting fleshcraft

that shield was BIG

[crude notch]

hello ban this man

[dusky canopy]

He remembers fleshcraft

Instead of banner

[thorny stone]

i actually enjoyed banner

fight me

[dusky canopy]

Bro banner was sic

[thorny stone]

and reprisal

[dusky canopy]

I’m on that side of the fence too

And then you lost me

Reprisal gameplay is “turbo swamp ass”

[crude notch]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[thorny stone]

it was fun to min max on raid

[crude notch]

no

[dusky canopy]

Literal trash

[crude notch]

reprisal is the reason i didn't play pwar at all

in SL

[dusky canopy]

Hated using intervene and charge to get block uptime

How awful

[daring marlin]

people are so weird to me

How do you like boring ass bargain bin breath of sindragosa more than spear

[dusky canopy]

Breath is ass too yeah

[daring marlin]

At least breath looks cool

[sick sentinel]

the chat gpt i made the otherday the bot is throwing shade at my mans ability to hold aggro

[dusky canopy]

Imagine 90% of your damage being reliant on you maintaining your big cd

And if theres no target to hit for like 5 seconds you lose all your damage

Big cringe

[sick sentinel]

"trusting the warrior's ability to maintain aggro and keep them safe" oof

[dusky canopy]

In Shield Slam we trust

[tropic gorge]

Shield slam Shockwaves say hello

[crude notch]

Here you go for anyone that cares

[dusky canopy]

[tropic gorge]

I got 4pc last night and damn. It's cool af

"spamming ls on cd is weird".
Nah, I've been using the new build since I got 2pc. I'm used to it

[hollow hill]

what does that chart mean

[dusky canopy]

Only 5% warrior

[crude notch]

No only 5 warriors

[toxic pewter]

i think less than 5%

[hollow hill]

hall of fame guilds or something?

[toxic pewter]

thats like 1% lmao

[dusky canopy]

Oh wait

[crude notch]

Title cuttoff so M+

[dusky canopy]

Oh that’s title cut off

I thought that was overal representation

[crude notch]

Thank you for that unintentional feedback

[sick sentinel]

WTF is a title cut off

[dusky canopy]

If I had read

I would have been informed

[toxic pewter]

kinda wild prot pal grew in representation lol

[hardy snow]

overall representation looks like this:

[tropic gorge]

So that shows me paladin is easy to play

[modern brook]

its the people above the title cut off in by class

[sick sentinel]

not last place, i'll take it

[tropic gorge]

And warrior is the most difficult to play at thst level

[dusky canopy]

News flash people, you are way cooler if you achieve greatness on a NON FOTM spec

[hollow hill]

🔥

[tropic gorge]

Correct

[dusky canopy]

I must say I’m surprised we’re even at 15% all things considered

Probably just left over from season 1

[tropic gorge]

I didn't care for pwar getting fotm status in s1. We had tons of rerollers and such

[dusky canopy]

Yeah imo, you don’t want to be the Fotm specs

[tropic gorge]

Lots of shit comes with fotm status. I'm glad we don't have it anymore.

Just my opinion obv.

[dusky canopy]

You’re instantly a target for nerfs when you are

[crude notch]

I like being 2-3rd

That's the comfy spot

[dusky canopy]

Yep

Same same

[hardy snow]

oh, you must be new to Blizzard's games?

[tropic gorge]

Meta slaves will forever be meta slaves. It can't be helped. Oh well
Prot war is freaking awesome and we are in a good spot imo

[sinful harbor]

How are there more bears than warriors

[tropic gorge]

Bears were giga op for most of this games life starting in wotlk

[dusky canopy]

Bear is good

[tropic gorge]

They ha e constantly been tied for best tank with dk

That's why. They are almost always #1

[dusky canopy]

Shhhh don’t tell ‘em

[amber siren]

bear is p decent rn and expected to pull further ahead with the changes in .5

[sinful harbor]

That's m+, not raiding, what happened lmao

[dusky canopy]

Oh no they’re good in raid too

Highest ST

[crude notch]

There's more bears because there seems to be some weird NA competition amongst bears

[amber siren]

dungeon damage profile changed, new tier set

[crude notch]

Like it's very slanted NA to EU ratio for bears

[hardy snow]

"almost always" except DF S1, SL S1/S2/S3/S4, BfA S1/S2/S3/S4 which is more than last 4 years of game life? 🙂

[strong forum]

lotta people think pwar is bad now

[dusky canopy]

That’s a them problem nome

[amber siren]

Bear was strong for one of the SL seasons right? I didn't play that expac

[crude notch]

Bears have been "giga op" one season in M+ history

[dusky canopy]

Yeah season 2 bear was popular

[crude notch]

and in that season

[strong forum]

bear was strong in s1 and then popular in s2

[crude notch]

prot pally ended up highest io

[strong forum]

but legit every tank was strong in s2 SL

evey single one

[dusky canopy]

Mdi had a triple shard pull highlighted and only bear could do it

[hardy snow]

it was strong in S2 thanks to weapon fiting well incarn

[dusky canopy]

So it made it popular

[hardy snow]

but still it wasnt #1

[crude notch]

here have another chart made by yours truly

[sinful harbor]

so what youre saying is I should brush the dust off my glowing neon bear

[crude notch]

no

don't do that

[dusky canopy]

No I would play warrior

Since you’re suggesting otherwise

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107

[crude notch]

don't play bear

[dusky canopy]

There’s no denying it’s going to be good though

[crude notch]

i'm denying it

[dusky canopy]

It’s already good now

[crude notch]

stop it

don't play bear

[amber siren]

actually a really cool chart, ty

[dusky canopy]

LOL

[dusky canopy]

I agree

[crude notch]

it was inspired by the one sense made

[strong forum]

play whatever you want

[crude notch]

for s1

[strong forum]

none of the tanks is truly bad, only the players that play them

[dusky canopy]

[crude notch]

Sense is my creative inspiration for charts

[strong forum]

sense inspires us all

🙏

[crude notch]

That and me just being a stats nerd

[amber siren]

art

[dusky canopy]

There’s Sense

[plush tendon]

Tell me Prot Warrior isnt best in Freehold

[strong forum]

it is

[dusky canopy]

And then there’s the rest of us

[plush tendon]

the only dungeon that matters

[sinful harbor]

I just wish feral was actually good 😿

[dusky canopy]

It is good

Nobody plays it properly

That’s the problem

[sinful harbor]

it doesnt matter cause im a pug and so I have to tank or bust

[plush tendon]

Though I will say, we did a Nathans liar 20 last night wih some alts; each poison dispell (we had 4) reduced the healing requirment of the worms boss by a lot

[uneven mason]

Wat?

[crude notch]

Nathans liar

i love i

it*

[plush tendon]

most of the time the healer is pumping like 140k hps.... our homie was doing 90k

[crude notch]

i'm only ever calling it that from now on

[plush tendon]

and we felt fine

[uneven mason]

Feral is murderballing in m+

[crude notch]

alright back to doing the healer chart

[unique cobalt]

any prot warrior m+ pov on YT for season 2 ? having hard time to find any content ( PSA: I learn visually )

[dusky canopy]

Feral is horrible guys

I wouldn’t play with them

[crude notch]

dude there's two black marks on your screen might want to get that fixed

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

Some discs are weird about name sharing so it’s just habit to do that

[dusky canopy]

GK watch Sense

Our very own is goated too but he’ll pretty much be streaming D4 I imagine
@strong forum

[strong forum]

Yessir

[dusky canopy]

What you playing nome

Berserker?

[toxic pewter]

augmentation evoker seems cool

[jagged pier]

I could post my boss kills but i also cba

I stopped recording keys because storage

[dusky canopy]

I would definitely watch them if you do

FYI

[jagged pier]

Even tho its goos to learn from

Would always recommend recording yourself

[unique cobalt]

thanks

[jagged pier]

Insane what u can pick up

[dusky canopy]

Yeah the same can be said about watching others POV too

But more so from your own yes

[unique cobalt]

never thought about looking in twitch .. found another guy also "nextback"

[dusky canopy]

I’m not familiar

[strong forum]

Nextback may be rank1 but don't look too closes at his rotation

[dusky canopy]

Keep in mind a lot of people do not play Warrior correctly

[strong forum]

If you can do that, then it's aight

[dusky canopy]

Nome beat me to it

[strong forum]

You can look at positioning and mechanical gameplay, but don't try to copy how he presses his buttons

[crude notch]

blue class

[dusky canopy]

Imagine healing

[wary spire]

Name a few common mistakes

[plush tendon]

yea, this graph lies

there arent any healers

[dusky canopy]

[dusky canopy]

First and for most pressing IP more than you need to, when revenge also prevents rage cap and does damage

[daring marlin]

get any of them hotdogs while you were there?

[dusky canopy]

Also not sniping SS resets quickly enough so you miss some

[unique cobalt]

Tbh am not aiming to run high keys, just wanna watch some vods / streams in work to learn anything I can and (waste time), new to tanking my aim is getting to 2k+ rio

[strong forum]

Underusing of shieldslam
Overusing of thunderclap
Getting hit in the back
Not using outburst primarily on shield slam
Playing sub-optimal talenbuilds
Not using impending victory often enough
Not sending SW despite it being a very short CD
Not using spell reflect often enough as raw magic mitigation

Those are the most common mistakes

[uneven mason]

Focusing on IP too much

[dusky canopy]

You can pretty much use Spell reflect for this DR in every single pull

Even if it’s not reflecting something

That’s actually a good example nome nice

[plush tendon]

if by hotdog you mean the trinket.... hell yea we did

still need to find something to replace my all-totem with though 😦

[wary spire]

Thanks dudes

[fresh igloo]

a list of common mistakes would not be a bad section for a guide and/or pinned post.

[strong forum]

All-totem is still great

[fresh igloo]

always nice to know what to work on

[plush tendon]

I know... but I want something new and shiny

like a beacon

[dusky canopy]

For sure man it’s a real challenge to play Warrior perfectly, that’s why we all consider Sense a god lol

He’s insane at it

[daring marlin]

Was making a poor joke but noice trinket

[unique cobalt]

is the pinned "talent general purpose m+ build " the one to use ?

[dusky canopy]

Yes

With 2pc

[unique cobalt]

with 4pc i use the one on wowhead ?

[dusky canopy]

No

You use the one here in the pins

[strong forum]

Is the same, build doesn't change with 4pc

Only with 2pc

But that build is already playable without t30 2pc

Just not as good

[plush tendon]

its the best way to differentiate Nelth and Nathans

[daring marlin]

oh snap 4 hour downtime

well well well

[tropic marsh]

Are we forgestorming gaming in M+? Seems like the default for tanks atm, even after I got my raid axe 😦

[plush tendon]

Nelth->Neltharus, Nathans-> The Lair

[dusky canopy]

Big balances coming with this 4 hour maintenance

?????

[plush tendon]

shadow priest rework

[strong forum]

For ultra mega keys, 447 will prolly win out

[plush tendon]

no reason to get excited

[wary spire]

rip prot

[strong forum]

For 1-5 targets forgestorm is better

[uneven mason]

Another paladin buff

[dusky canopy]

Hmmmm is it good? Haven’t really kept up on it?

[strong forum]

It's the long awaited 8% aura buff we deserve

[tropic marsh]

What are y'all embelishing also? I see a lot of variation but I like the look of the belt. How noticeable is the slow for something like bolstering, if you end up in a bad situation?

[strong forum]

And 60% aura buff for bdk that they need

[dusky canopy]

SIXTY

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

Yup.

[dusky canopy]

[strong forum]

Im not joking

If you buff bdk aura by 60% it still Sims less than paladin

🙂

[plush tendon]

well they need it.... but I wont believe it will happen until its in a blue post

[dusky canopy]

[strong forum]

6k less BTW

[strong forum]

Yeah they need it badly

[plush tendon]

trust me I know.... getting big 99 parses in raid.... doing 64k dps

[fresh igloo]

did ya check the pins

[crude notch]

nice weiner

[plush tendon]

all that effort.... and still 10k behind something else

[tropic marsh]

My b, cheers

[crude notch]

they should get the bear treatment

[dusky canopy]

This emoji would be pretty sweet for reacting

[unkempt hazel]

fellers

are there any decent prot streamers or some such

[dusky canopy]

Sense

Also Sense

[strong forum]

Andy when he does decide to play pwar

[uneven mason]

Does sense actually stream

[strong forum]

Once in a blue moon

[dusky canopy]

Not often

[daring marlin]

I wanna see what the new affixes this week are

[unkempt hazel]

thank you kindly

[dusky canopy]

Probably the healer one

Fine by me

[plush tendon]

though I will say I am surprised by no tuning in the last couple of weeks; maybe they took vacation early for Memorial Day?

[dusky canopy]

Understandably

That’s probably right

[uneven mason]

Can't let bdk start leading damage otherwise paladins might not be fotm anymore

[tropic gorge]

What are the affixes this week?

[hardy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[tropic gorge]

Outburst ss with ls up is something to behold

[uneven mason]

Probably afflicted and sanguine

[tropic gorge]

Big ol critties

[uneven mason]

Going off of what we've seen already

[plush tendon]

Personally, I think Paladin is in a fine spot.... its the other tanks that need some buffs/changes to make them more attractive

[modern brook]

last time i was in nelths was with another warrior and HIS SPELL REFLECT STOLE ALL OF MY SPELL REFLECTS DAMAGE and i was very mad about it

[dusky canopy]

LOL

[plush tendon]

like, give Warrior lust

you know you want to Ion

[dusky canopy]

Bro why did they revert the Warrior changes for incorporeal

Like wow we can delete one every 3 minutes

[plush tendon]

they couldnt get the DK one right

[dusky canopy]

That’s so op

[plush tendon]

so they just scrapped it

and went back to vacation

[dusky canopy]

DK was op though

Control undead the thing and it starts applying the debuff to the enemy

Yeah I can see that going away

[plush tendon]

this is the convo they had "Damn, Warriors and DKs need something.... lets try this" "Wow Fred thats cool.... oh shit! the DK one is busted! How do we fix it?" "Well I have a flight to catch in 20.... lets just scrap this and deal with it later!"

[dusky canopy]

Most likely the case too lol

[plush tendon]

"what about warriors?" "What about them?"

[wary spire]

What about them? All they do is go ungabunga and thats it

[tropic gorge]

I don't agree with dragons having lust

I think they should have gotten a bres instead

I believe too many classes have lust now

[crude notch]

too many have brez heck em

[tropic gorge]

I didn't even agree with hunters getting lust. But it is what it is I guees

[crude notch]

What about mages?

Should only shamans have lust?

[tropic gorge]

It fits with mages

I guess hunters was fine. I disagreed with it at the start.
But dragons having it too is too many imo

[modern brook]

hunters should get their brez back tbh

[tropic gorge]

Hunters should be deleted from the game

[modern brook]

they already are with how they play

[uneven mason]

I mean they deleted one spec in legion, let's get the other 2

[tropic gorge]

Hunter is by far the easiest class with the lowest bar of entry.
It's fine for total noobies and first timers. But I don't like hunters

[crude notch]

what does easiest mean?

Easiest to obtain optimal dps?

Because I've seen some dogwater hunters

But I've also seen some dogwater everything so

[tropic gorge]

Thst the class is easy. Wjth minimal effort and knowledge a basic ass hunter can go far in the game. Where as other classes actually have to know things

[uneven mason]

Fury warrior would have to disagree

[tropic gorge]

People keep telling me I should go fury for dps

I just laugh in mortal strike

[crude notch]

i hard disagree

[fresh igloo]

a lot of people can't manage the movement to maintain good uptime on melee.

[pastel sleet]

Ret pally would disagree

[fresh igloo]

(WTB reach talent on fury)

[crude notch]

Not to mention within it's own class there's sizeable variance in ease of execution

[sick sentinel]

is this week volcanic?

[crude notch]

it's something

[sick sentinel]

i think i heard someone say that

[crude notch]

volcanic and afflicted are the remaining +7 affixes
sanguine and bursting are the remaining +14 affixes.

[daring marlin]

bruh warriors are op

We got 5% ap buff

[crude notch]

you're op

[daring marlin]

[crude notch]

5% buff?

[uneven mason]

5%, less than we needed

[daring marlin]

We scream at our team to do more physical damage

[crude notch]

oh you're talking about shout

[daring marlin]

[crude notch]

i thought you were talking about like buffs to classes

yeah that's you

max chatter

[daring marlin]

correct, that was why I included it!

[crude notch]

Oh snap Holinka is leaving blizzard

[strong forum]

wait till you think about the fact that despite sitting in b-stance 99% of the time we're still 20% behind the highest dps tank

and when you are forced into d-stance cuz of mega dmg intake, that gap widens alot

👏

[daring marlin]

I do hope they give some kind of buff

Not aura, something interesting

You guys had cool ideas like tclap does 5x on st and whatnot

[crude notch]

best we can do is a 4% increased damage to all abilities

🙂

[strong forum]

aura is what we need tho

reminder that we lost 7% overall dmg with bugfix

[plush tendon]

at this point, hoping for any sort of buff beyond just a aura buff is not gonna happen

its gonna be a 3% here

[undone verge]

Make execute do dmg again

[plush tendon]

and a 3% there

if anything at all

[daring marlin]

crumbs

[undone verge]

Bring banner back, problem solved

[daring marlin]

no

[plush tendon]

I just want them to do something

[scenic bough]

i want them to give us the ability to throw mobs

like pick up a caster and just throw it

[daring marlin]

play kul tiran

[undone verge]

Can you block while channeling kultiran racial? I haven’t played it in a while

[tropic marsh]

I play Kul Tiran myself, but I am unsure if you can block. Normally I am away from the pack to try and punch a pelter back into the mob so there's nothing to block

[sick sentinel]

doom corruption cards is trying to prepare me for week of volcanic

[fresh igloo]

usually any cast/channel removes your ability to block.

could test it against the dummy that hits back

[vital arch]

guys I got KSH last night from tips I learned here

u da bess

[fresh igloo]

nice

[vital arch]

thanks bud, my mom says I look handsome in my glowing tier.

[sleek tendon]

Make Prot great again

[toxic pewter]

Yes make execute great again

[cinder storm]

been thinking of doing ultra nightmare run for doom 2016 and eternal

[quick spruce]

Prot doesn’t go from the only tank choice in MDI to worthless because some nerd makes a tier list

[cinder storm]

Paladins rn are reminiscence of how DHs were in SL s1 vs pwar, I can go afk on my pala lower ilvl no tier on higher keys than my war, sometimes I wonder if they are bugged or something

[vital arch]

define high keys

[crude notch]

9s

duh

[vital arch]

every pally I come across on my alts is super underwhelming

[fast knot]

I haven't seen a vengeance that absolutely blows me away either

[prisma crane]

No. But a decent tier list will accurately reflect the differences in the classes post updates

[sick sentinel]

mythic plus affixes of doom, this one was basically "infested", spawned a ton of baby demons

[vital arch]

spell reflect go brrr

[prisma crane]

And right now prot does shit damage compared to other tanks

[quick spruce]

You need that Assad trinket

[vital arch]

Idk maybe I'm playing in a bubble but I have yet to see prot do overwhelming ST damage. Just tried to heroic pug with a pally tank and it was gross.

[sick sentinel]

what dungeon trinkets are locked to DPS spec only

[prisma crane]

I have beacon and mark. Besides I'm not speaking anecdotally

[sick sentinel]

like is there some really good one i should open as fury for

[prisma crane]

Mark of Dargrul

No reason to ever open as prot

Now that you can craft at max vault level

[sick sentinel]

but my sporepods /s

[wary spire]

Is the sporepod good or no

[vital arch]

wrong....

[sick sentinel]

i wouldn't reccomend it

[vital arch]

Talisman of the Cragshaper is one of the best tanking trinkets in the game rn

and drops from NL

[sick sentinel]

why would you open a dungeon vualt as prot im curious

[daring marlin]

I can't tell if you're joking or not

[sick sentinel]

cu z i think you can get 1 h from fury, which opens u to pogstorm

[prisma crane]

Prot gives 1h too

[dense hound]

For max dps stonks should i go Vp trinket + raid anchor or any of those together with the chromatic essence

[fast knot]

Only real reason is better target for Forgestorm but you get shields on the roll then

I feel like just prot rolling in NL for the hero path would suffice

[sick sentinel]

i have a 437 shield now

[fast knot]

but 🤷‍♀️

[sick sentinel]

i crafted it my self

[prisma crane]

But I'm not interested in a defensive trinket because while our output sucks (more reason to go offensive) our defense is just fine

[left basalt]

Running Mark of Draguhl NL and Thunder from VP doing around 70k overall in 16s/17s

[edgy venture]

guys zskarn hurts a lot

help

[undone verge]

Take less dmg?

Or play a bdk

/ppal

[lyric kettle]

zskarn slapped me and took my lunch money and stole my girlfriend and kicked my dog 😦

[plush tendon]

I cant wait till my guild is in Zskarn prison

[fast knot]

I feel like Experiments/Zskarn are the only real times I'd be running a defensive trinket

[undone verge]

Experiments is worse imo

[hollow hill]

rotate cd's, spell block, ignore pain all you can really do in my experience. and have good healers

[fast knot]

but then again most of my healers forget the difference between a sustaining tank and a mitigation tank

[lyric kettle]

I'm not sure if I can go defensive trinket for zskarn, beacon to the beyond is too good 😦

(i know i know What A Problem)

[edgy venture]

I don't even have a defensive trinket...

none have dropped 😦

Running the anchor and Dragonscale.

[lyric kettle]

I got very lucky and got all 4 trinkets from good loot drops/vaults/lucky timewalking box

[edgy venture]

we fall apart with the tank stacks :S

[lyric kettle]

well, "all 4" - i guess the big 4. beacon, ominous, chaos grapnel, ward

but i need to run ominous for the raid, and then it's either beacon/ward/grapnel in the other slot

[daring marlin]

I was a fool and was prot loot spec on amal last night

[lyric kettle]

I'm so sorry. ❤️

[daring marlin]

Got two tier pieces back to back so that made up for it

[lyric kettle]

heck yeah

[quick spruce]

The anchor trinket sucks tbh

[edgy venture]

it was better than what I had.

the lost vikings trinket.

[quick spruce]

The best trinket I’ve found so far is the Assad trinket.

I don’t have dargul yet or the good raid trinkets

[left basalt]

HOI Trinket - Fragment started simming super high for me...

[crude notch]

[quick spruce]

Nice I have that I’ll have to see how that works out. I’ve also got vial of blood, I pretty much have every trinket except dargul and the two awesome raid trinkets

[left basalt]

VP trinket doing like 7% right now

Crazy dmg

[dusty monolith]

i've got only 2 drops, 441 horn from uldaman and 437 omni, would much rather have mark and the trinket from VP but 30+ runs no luck at all

[left basalt]

Got a 441 mark and 437 thunder, happy enough for now

[dusty monolith]

the dream

[prisma crane]

what's affixes this wk?

[prisma crane]

took me 36 runs to get my mark

[toxic pewter]

ran 17+ lair 50 times...

still no mark

[left basalt]

I got it my first run

[toxic pewter]

O_O

i got beacon first kill so i guess I am good with that

[left basalt]

Woo

[dusty monolith]

surely it'll drop next run

[torn gulch]

anyone on na

knowing what the affixes are?

[toxic pewter]

not sure it is known yet

[dusty monolith]

isnt US reset today?

[toxic pewter]

have a feeling volcanic/sanguine

yeah but servers still all down for maintenance

[torn gulch]

bursting/volcanic fort

or a afflicted combo

[dusty monolith]

afflicted vulcanic would be giga to push

[amber siren]

Raiderio reporting fort/afflicted/raging

[torn gulch]

wait what?

[dusty monolith]

fort raging again? MonkaS

[torn gulch]

servers are down

how does raider io know?

[strong forum]

fck man

[dusty monolith]

i dislike raging. there are so many mobs that cannot be kicked and need CC, raging sucks on those

[strong forum]

fck man

[torn gulch]

oh 4 hour maintenance on na and eu as well

[strong forum]

i do a BH19 to get a fat fucking overall

[torn gulch]

fair enough

[strong forum]

but i fuck up on first boss

and we wipe

[torn gulch]

it's better to get 70k overall and time the key than get 100k+ and wipe

kekeke

[strong forum]

i had 105k

i wanted 120k

[torn gulch]

i know you timed

[strong forum]

ANGY

[edgy venture]

Zskarn on 10man is hell.

[toxic pewter]

kinda weird raider io put out fort/raging/afflicted when we already have had raging... maybe blizz wants first afflicted to be easy with raging I guess

[torn gulch]

how does raider io know

[toxic pewter]

not sure

[torn gulch]

when servers are down

[toxic pewter]

but the article is up

prob have dealings with blizzard

[dusty monolith]

maybe datamined

[toxic pewter]

or that yea

wait the article talks about thundering... not sure what they are smoking

[edgy venture]

Maybe an oopsie.

[torn gulch]

lol

[dusty monolith]

thundering

oh god

[toxic pewter]

so afflicted is solely a healer affix right

[dusty monolith]

as if

[torn gulch]

it can be dispelled

if i am not mistaken

[dusty monolith]

afaik DD with poison/curse dispell can do afflicted as well

[toxic pewter]

dps can dispel them too i guess

ok

prot pal/guardian/brew can deal with them too I guess

[daring marlin]

yep

prot/bear stay winning

[toxic pewter]

kinda wild

[daring marlin]

Another week of warrior getting the side-eye

dps and tank

[granite pond]

Another affix we can do nothing about - fun!

Gonna bring bandages to help heal it

[torn gulch]

i do keys every week anyway

perks of having an active m+ guild

[dusty monolith]

warrior tank really getting the shaft this season it feels like

[granite pond]

Doing keys is fine, I do it with friends

[dusty monolith]

with lacking utility

[granite pond]

It just feels shitty to not be able to help

[toxic pewter]

crazy paladins can even lay on hands an afflicted in an emergency

and I guess word of glory will heal one decently too prob

[crude notch]

okay calm down

ain't no one gonna loh afflicted

[toxic pewter]

lol

never know

[crude notch]

well maybe @daring marlin but that's a different story

[toxic pewter]

just saying they have 3 ways to deal with it and we have 0 feelsbadman

just doesnt feel appropriate

[crude notch]

yeah true warrior should get a dispel

[toxic pewter]

We had a great dispel

[daring marlin]

why on earth would I waste LoH on an afflicted

[toxic pewter]

a self dispel for bleeds

[daring marlin]

legit just dispel lmao

[toxic pewter]

and they took it away

[dusty monolith]

I wanna use my victory rush to heal others as well if i want instead of me

[toxic pewter]

never say never, they say

[cinder storm]

Things related to their fantasy, Battle cry = lust, Withstand pain = bleed removal

[toxic pewter]

in pugs, I can actually see a loh on an afflicted actually occurring

like I said, in a shit is going down situation

like, why not LOH the afflicted if you think about it

[dusty monolith]

because loh has 7 minutes cd and afflicted can spawn every 30s

its very overkill

[daring marlin]

why not? because I could just toss a free wog or dispel it

and not using a long ass CD on something like that

[toxic pewter]

say you are on 3rd boss lair

all dispels used

and bad timing occurs

boom loh works

[dusty monolith]

thats incredibly situational

[toxic pewter]

right

[dusty monolith]

but sure

[toxic pewter]

thats why I said in a crazy emergency situation

i can see it being used

[edgy venture]

petition to make blizzard bring back 10/25 man and then have flex as an option.

so dumb that mechanics don't scale to 10 man.

[dusty monolith]

still struggling onZskarn Doceon?

[edgy venture]

Yeah

We get to 40% and die.

[toxic pewter]

going to scan warcraftlogs all week for LOH users on afflicted

[dusty monolith]

why are you so obsessed about loh apb 😮

[toxic pewter]

I will find them

[dusty monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[cinder storm]

You will, even if its your own logs, its a rule 34 thing

[toxic pewter]

I am liam neeson this week

[hexed fox]

https://tenor.com/view/for-fun-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-for-kicks-gif-25853679

thats how I imagine @toxic pewter looking through logs for LOH on afflicted

[toxic pewter]

that me

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-dead-inside-gif-25853869

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/ur1WaSg.png

love anvil

putting in work

[daring marlin]

hellyeahbrother

[dusty monolith]

what second trinket ur using nome?

[strong forum]

grapnel

[uneven mason]

Yeah anvil is great when you can keep stacks rolling

[edgy venture]

our healers are doing relatively the same amount as runs I'm looking at of 20-25 man groups.

[strong forum]

ye i had perma 5stacks

never dropped it

[toxic pewter]

wat does grapnel actually do? is it like hookshot brings you to the mob or what

[strong forum]

grapnel does dmg

[uneven mason]

Yup, only a few dungeons that there are gaps

[strong forum]

and itll hook you in if youre not in close enough

i could bridge the gap on BH without losing stacks

going from tree to dog boss

[dusty monolith]

think this week anvil excels because shades keep you in combat to pull the next pack and dont drop stack

[strong forum]

yeah shade is nice

[uneven mason]

I figured this out when they dropped doing dog to tree

My group had a fit next run when I went hard right, although I think trees are better than dogs on fort

[prisma crane]

petition for beacon to henceforth be known as bacon, because everybody wants and loves bacon

[uneven mason]

Because that throw meat gets DPS eaten

[prisma crane]

also, beacon may be the most fun trinket i've used in a while, its fun to just nuke something w/ a 1.1M+ crit

[acoustic oasis]

So i heard a rumor prot warrior is getting a damage buff, is this true? I cant find any ptr notes or anything like that

[acoustic oasis]

Same brother

[dusty monolith]

probs not

[cinder storm]

I like left side, pulls are spicier, right side is a snoozefest

[daring marlin]

I love that even without critting every time you use it on 5+ targets it always hits for over a million.

[toxic pewter]

who told u that

[prisma crane]

yea, now i need a 450 one >.<

[dusty monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-25573036

[prisma crane]

and i dont raid lmao

[dusty monolith]

what it feels like not having beacon

[prisma crane]

pretty much

[uneven mason]

Got it from the loot box last week, it's just fun being able to delete some annoying trash

[acoustic oasis]

My dps was livid i won it on a free roll over them, jokes on them, its #3 on my m+ damage meters and is 12% of my total damage on average

[daring marlin]

let 'em mald, bigger value on tanks

[acoustic oasis]

I remember reading about it here/on a wowhead post about how warrior dps is the worst dps tank rn

[uneven mason]

If bdk gets buffed they might be right

[toxic pewter]

🤔

[dusty monolith]

thats true we're currently still below average dps wise still doesnt mean we're getting buffed

[acoustic oasis]

437 beacon + 441 trinket from VP, total for 20% of my damage 70k dps average for tryannical week

[vital arch]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1109008.png

heres the boss statistics for 95% parses MYTHIC Wk2

[dusty monolith]

any way to do the same for m+ 20+ keys?

[strong forum]

checking all percentile is very misinforming aswell as showing both weeks, when brm has received a sever hotfix resuling in them losing a huge chunk of dmg

this if anything is a more accurate representation

[uneven mason]

Also lookit that range discrepancy o pwar for all averages

[vital arch]

sorry wowhead has them mislabled lol

[dusty monolith]

thats a 20%ish difference between warr and dh druid roughly? thats more than i thought

[strong forum]

vdh is dmg king

druid is slightly skewed cuz very very few people play bear

therefor they look better

[toxic pewter]

where would we be with the 7% dam if it wasnt fixed

[uneven mason]

I mean a pwar can legit shit 15% of our damage just by being in defensive

[strong forum]

yeah if we go defensive stance we're behind bdk on ST

[hexed fox]

whats defensive?

[plush tendon]

I think the guy who does Tuning is on Summer Break

[toxic pewter]

are we as tanky in battle stance as we were in sl or is defensive stance more close to sl tankiness? does this question make any sense

[strong forum]

cuz its an actual 11% dmg nerf, not just class dmg, it also reduces dmg for all items

[plush tendon]

well see something in September

[uneven mason]

What a lot of tanks use

[strong forum]

we're tankier than in SL

but weaker offensively in raid

but better offensively in m+

[dusty monolith]

there seem to be same amount of keys in 20+ played by druids and warriors (ofc its just an estimate as it lists keys and not different players)

[plush tendon]

people dropped Warrior for Paladin faster then Usain Bolt

[strong forum]

yes pwar and bear are super unpopular unless theyre brokenly OP and clearly the best

[plush tendon]

which is strange to me cause warrior is hella fun to play 😦

[edgy venture]

sword and board me smash 😠

[acoustic oasis]

Warrior is kino

[plush tendon]

but I understand druid

[dusty monolith]

pwar is so fun i'd never gofor another tank no matter how "bad" it performs

[toxic pewter]

never was about fun

[plush tendon]

druid is poo

[dusty monolith]

warrior life

[vital arch]

rage tanks S tier

[toxic pewter]

most people find spec that does most dam the most fun

at least that is their line they use

[paper garden]

you must be my clone or something. same here, shield go smashy.

[vital arch]

bad players think they can get an edge rerolling

[cinder storm]

S1 ended up being all about offhealing

[uneven mason]

The most damage without effort

[plush tendon]

we call those

[toxic pewter]

lol

[plush tendon]

people rerollers

[uneven mason]

Like BRM was just insane DPS but required braincells

[strong forum]

fun > perceived performance

[paper garden]

<-- lacks the will to expend braincells. I expend all my brain cells at work. not on game.

[crude notch]

i love how toxic people are to fotm players

[topaz raptor]

ye and if u try to pug u def tell the difference that people way prefer grabbing a pally than u 😦

[crude notch]

like holy shit

there's nothing wrong with rolling to fotm

[topaz raptor]

wasnt like this in S1 lol

[fallen spindle]

i find it so fun to use shockwave with all the talents, then grp up a shit ton of mobs and smack them in the head with a 65k crit and the dmg done just say booom

[acoustic oasis]

When vault? I need serotonin at work and i get that on tuesdays from jealous lurking on ur posts about getting gear from vault

[topaz raptor]

11am game should open

[crude notch]

y'all cringe

[cinder storm]

Funny man

[daring marlin]

ah, yes. I too am a fotm hater.

🤓

[toxic pewter]

some of my best friends are fotmers

[uneven mason]

I just enjoy pwar and bear

[dusty monolith]

where was the hate? we all just said how much we love pwar :

[cinder storm]

I am a fotm hater hater

[dusky canopy]

Fotm haters unite

[dusty monolith]

can we admit for a second how actually fun neltarus is this week? you can pull insanely big and its very fun. like two pulls and you are at the first boss

[dusky canopy]

[uneven mason]

To be clear, I throw shade at paladins vdh and bdk even when they're dogshit

[daring marlin]

That's every week.

[dusky canopy]

^

[daring marlin]

As long as you kick molten core.

[dusky canopy]

Imagine NOT being a warrior

Right

[crude notch]

kekw

imagine being a pwar

speaking of

[dusky canopy]

Cool is cool

We can’t help it

[crude notch]

Afflicted/Raging

[toxic pewter]

dont have to imagine

[crude notch]

So Bear is just busted tank this week

[cinder storm]

pwar is the only class that requires braincells aside from discp

cant help it

[daring marlin]

Pinkman: Am I a joke to you?

[dusky canopy]

Bubbles that’s definitely chatting though

Lmao

[cinder storm]

[daring marlin]

raging? who cares

[crude notch]

no shot

[daring marlin]

bring an evoker

[dusky canopy]

Yeah just block

[crude notch]

no shot someone just said pwar requires braincells

[dusky canopy]

Raging is irrelevant

[toxic pewter]

as a fully brain celled individual, i concur

[daring marlin]

the bioshock big daddy guy did

[fast knot]

Now I can actually reflect casts since my DPS like kicking after I call it

[cinder storm]

no hate, only zug zug

[dusky canopy]

I have 1 brain cell for each pwar ability

No more no less

[toxic pewter]

SR UP DON FUCKIN KI GD IT U ICKED FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[crude notch]

wtf

[toxic pewter]

wat

[cinder storm]

huh

[daring marlin]

apb just had a stroke

[fast knot]

Verbatim what I sound like

[daring marlin]

F in chat for him

[toxic pewter]

anyone else smell burning toast

[crude notch]

also, let's be real fortified raging

yikes

[acoustic oasis]

Apb is just RPing as an average fury warrior

Unwashed balls and all

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-who-the-hell-cares-peter-family-guy-gif-5547786

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[dusky canopy]

I had a “spell reflect active” chat announcement WA in past expansions but I lost it and haven’t tried finding it again

[crude notch]

you will

[daring marlin]

little does jordan know

I'll invite an evoker and they won't take the AoE soothe

[toxic pewter]

most evokers I encounter still dont know they have a party buff

[cinder storm]

"cant talent it, too many buttons already"

[dusky canopy]

Are you speaking in yoda?

Just clarifying

[uneven mason]

This is what I say every time I log on my brm

[daring marlin]

[dusky canopy]

[cinder storm]

[daring marlin]

little known, jordan does

there you go

[uneven mason]

I make it my job to inform them "bitch where's my 28s CD on heroic leap"

[toxic pewter]

yeah no joke it actually happens a lot and triggers me

[crude notch]

toxic ass bish

guilford

i hope you deplete all your keys this week

[dusky canopy]

Ayyyye 3 messages from 10k after this one

[torn gulch]

keke

[crude notch]

and i hope you get the most dog shit loot in your vault

[torn gulch]

[dusky canopy]

Lots of chatting

[crude notch]

[toxic pewter]

:chatting:

[fiery atlas]

Do we want back off last boss or spore cloak?

[toxic pewter]

This emoji doesn't work because it's animated. Discord Nitro can solve all of that, check User Settings > Nitro for details

[crude notch]

get nitro you poor bish

[prisma crane]

you're right, but, the problem is that many players play fotm to make up for poor play, when they'd be better off just sticking to something and becoming proficient with it. Obviously top top level players often "fotm" because they can swap and still play well

[dusky canopy]

I only pick things that give me more damage

[crude notch]

bro

people play shit

on any spec

ever

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-thank-you-gif-24421787

[toxic pewter]

anyone buy me nitro irl for wow gold area 52 pst

[crude notch]

get tf over it

[prisma crane]

jordan sounds upset

[dusky canopy]

No it’s a casual Tuesday

[crude notch]

It's just cringe trying to gatekeep people from playing what they want

[prisma crane]

like i said before

[cinder storm]

I would too if I got Gollum gifted for my bday

[torn gulch]

[prisma crane]

no one is gatekeeping

[dusky canopy]

Hard agree with that statement Jordan

[crude notch]

bullshit

[prisma crane]

we OFTEN see people play fotm just to make up for playing poorly

[torn gulch]

i do not give a shit about the community

[prisma crane]

that, imo, is a problem

[crude notch]

that's not a problem

[dusky canopy]

I literally tell everyone who asks, play what you enjoy! You will perform better because you’re enjoying it.

[prisma crane]

but if ppl want to reroll who cares

[crude notch]

people can play what they want

stfu

[torn gulch]

they can go eat shit

[toxic pewter]

yeah like when I want to play super happy fun time in goldshire inn, just let me do it

[daring marlin]

spicy chat

[prisma crane]

if you cried less you'd see i agree with you that people can play whatever they want, just saying it's not a great idea for "most" players to do it

both can be true

[torn gulch]

limsa lominsa is next level of that

[prisma crane]

ppl can and should play what they want, but its also not a great move for many to do it

[cinder storm]

role play rose when chatgpt entered chat

[crude notch]

Who cares

[toxic pewter]

O_O

[prisma crane]

clearly you do

[crude notch]

?

You're the one that cares about people rerolling whether they should or shouldn't

[torn gulch]

holy shit

[mighty valley]

rapidly approaching "i know you are but that am i" levels of discourse

[torn gulch]

chat is on fire

[dusky canopy]

Absolutely a poor take to say “most players shouldn’t play what they want, due to lack of skill” WUT?

[torn gulch]

today

[acoustic oasis]

Cant we all get along? We are warriors, not my irl family

[dusky canopy]

[toxic pewter]

does why someone play a character matter? perhaps it is 'actions speak louder than words' situation

[crude notch]

Based Brew

[torn gulch]

[daring marlin]

I think it's funny when people call me a fotm reroller as if I haven't played this class for 15+ years.

[crude notch]

"it's not a great idea for "most" players to play what they want" is basically what you said.

[daring marlin]

Pal/War from the start. Always.

[crude notch]

Can't be a fotm reroller if you play all the tanks*

[cinder storm]

we should all remember who we dislike the most....dps brain...so that we can come together in this time of strife

[dusky canopy]

No Jordan re read that was not my take

[crude notch]

no not you

crayoneaterthetank

[dusky canopy]

Lmfao

[cinder storm]

hey, I like that name

dont steal it pls

[daring marlin]

I got all the tank artifact appearances in Legion if that counts(not DH)

I hate leather classes

[dusky canopy]

Yeah imagine calling someone who plays all 6 tanks in 20s+ a Fotm player lmao

[daring marlin]

I haven't really played Bear since they were giga broken at the start of Cataclysm.

That was a good time.

[toxic pewter]

seeing some of these vdh with million health doe

[cinder storm]

Bear: am I a joke to you?

[toxic pewter]

lol vdh chonky

[daring marlin]

good thing bear was the biggest joke for legion mage tower

[crude notch]

people still thinking bear has the highest hp when that hasn't been the case since like legion

[daring marlin]

actually nah, brew was easier

[torn gulch]

i mean i can reach 1 mill as a warr as well

even higher effective

[toxic pewter]

yeah with ls we over a mil

but meta vdh is even more

[torn gulch]

you can see over 1.5 mill effective in certain situations

[dusky canopy]

DK usually has highest HP no?

[toxic pewter]

any stamina chads in chat

[crude notch]

just gem stam tbh

[torn gulch]

best magic damage soak

[crude notch]

cheapest gems

[ruby musk]

I'm sitting at 800k at 437 but with LS how it is, it might as well be a milli all day

[tropic gorge]

It's been bears in past xpacks. But they can only dodge so you know. "they need more Stam"

[torn gulch]

stamina bags

[dusky canopy]

DK followed by bear/veng

Iirc

[toxic pewter]

always felt vdh had most

[crude notch]

bear hasn't been dodge tank since ironfur became a thing

[dusky canopy]

You can’t heal back your health if you don’t have any to start with

[tropic gorge]

/shrug don't know

Don't care. Warrior best tank don't @ me

[dusky canopy]

I’m spit balling that though Idr off the top of my head who gets the most HP

[toxic pewter]

damn new name for my tank..

Stamchad

[ruby musk]

My VDH cotank is sitting at like 750 but his gearing needs work. Guy doesn't do M+ for... reasons

[daring marlin]

I made a shitty meme

[tropic gorge]

I'm so very glad the Stam meta is fucking dead

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[tropic gorge]

I absolutely despised it. "that dude has more hp. So he's a better tank can you dps"

[cinder storm]

based

[dusky canopy]

Preventing damage is cooler than soaking it with high hp

[ruby musk]

Truth

Ngl I fucking love spell reflecting boss damage

[crude notch]

Bear hp will hit nutty numbers when the new Lunar Beam comes out

[toxic pewter]

lair final boss most satisfying reflects

[ruby musk]

Absolutely

[dusky canopy]

Yo that talent is loooking nutttty on ptr

[toxic pewter]

lair all around i think we def best tank in there

[crude notch]

I never thought I'd see the day

[torn gulch]

I play war pala and bear right now

[daring marlin]

freehold too

[torn gulch]

ready to rumbl

[strong forum]

earthen smash go brrr tho

[daring marlin]

Not many kicks required in either

[tropic gorge]

My Co tank is a bear. He cheesed a Stam trinket and has over 830k hp

[strong forum]

pally WISHED it had our tierset

[toxic pewter]

yah i feel really strong in fh

[dusky canopy]

Bear enjoyers are about to stroke out they have to add a 6th keybind

[crude notch]

i think i'm 870k

[dusky canopy]

Lunar beam owns

[torn gulch]

lol imagine using stamina trinkets

[toxic pewter]

wait what does pally tier even do lmao

never thought to look

[tropic gorge]

Ilvl is king. And you use what drops

[daring marlin]

new tier for pally is pretty underwhelming compared to T29

[dusky canopy]

That’s kinda the point

[daring marlin]

It's better in ST for raid at least

[dusky canopy]

Who knows

[daring marlin]

not so much M+

[toxic pewter]

i should look at all the tanks tiers

[cinder storm]

@toxic pewter why tier set are under SL powers

[dusky canopy]

Wait are they really still in that category

Lul

[toxic pewter]

lol

[crude notch]

Maul and Raze having separate buttons, regrowth being on bear bars now, Lunar beam potentially needs it's own, but likely you'll either go Rage of the Sleepr or Lunar Beam.

Not both

I've already started prepping

[toxic pewter]

i dont know much about blood, but their tier seems pretty strong

defensively?

[dusky canopy]

Bear is sounding more and more fun as an alt tank

Brothers in rage

Might have to send it

[edgy venture]

we got 1 more dps and made it to 10% 👍

[toxic pewter]

whoa bear tier does a lot of shit

rage generation 15%

[crude notch]

the rage gen is funny because it doesn't work with fractions so it's only on mangle pmuch

[toxic pewter]

oh

[crude notch]

the raze/maul damage increase is big considering those are the hardest hitting abilities

and the hp is obviously nice

and the heal is nice

and well

[dusky canopy]

Can I delete swipe yet?

[toxic pewter]

guardian 2 set is strong as hell

[dusky canopy]

I ain’t about it if I have to filler with swipe

[edgy venture]

this is #protection not #guardian 😎

[daring marlin]

silence, peasant

[toxic pewter]

well yeah.. still interesting to disucuss other tank tier though

[dusky canopy]

Tell me you’re new here without telling me you’re new here

[edgy venture]

Hi I'm new here.

👋

Oh wait I wasn't supposed to tell you.

[toxic pewter]

[dusky canopy]

So yeah it’s like mangle goes on the shield slam bind

Thrash goes on the tc bind

Would you do swipe on the revenge bind?

[cinder storm]

Skyhold is actually the best tank discord, rest is full of edgy kids, dont @ me

[daring marlin]

can confirm

[dusky canopy]

Yeah other tank discords are full of people who can’t handle normal conversations about wow