Use all your offensive CDs on CD
#protection
mighty valley
uneven mason
IP doesn't have a CD, use revenge more unless you feel squishy
mighty valley
Maintain shield block basically 100% (some nuance in raid I guess)
Press IP as your rage release valve to prevent overcapping and you'll be pressing it enough
this will be quite a lot still if you're playing right, especially when you pop all cds on the opener
uneven mason
Optimizing the opener is less important than getting aggro, DS produces no aggro, you'll want to TC to get initial aggro going, drop ravager because it has a tick delay then DS and slap some CDs.
I should say - while pugging, getting aggro is going to be more important than optimizing gameplay
mighty valley
i still pre-throw ravager before charge which might result in missing one tick but it feels convenient
uneven mason
just because most PUG DPS won't give you the 2 GCD to optimize the opener
its more than fine to pre throw it
just being mindfull that flipperhanded DPS will yank mobs out of your ravager
because its a universal law
lucid owl
Thanks for the feedback/advice guys 🙂
lucid owl
Optimizing the opener is less important than getting aggro, DS produces no aggro...
Nice, I'll keep that in mind and try to focus more on getting and holding aggro
mighty valley
Yeah, if you pre-ravager, charge + avatar, make sure you've at least tapped everything with tc if you think dps can't hold a fraction of a second
then DS - Roar- Shield Charge
and normal rotatoes from there
marble cipher
thought I'd step away from VP farming the trinket, and swap to Neltharus farming the weapon
Got it after two runs, guess it's back to VP now....
hallow phoenix
Leech grats
chrome falcon
FINALLY got the lair trinket jesus
tawdry spade
how good is dragonscale from the raid?
mighty knoll
FINALLY got the lair trinket jesus
The vp trinket usually does like 2% more for me but gz sick trinky
broken kite
Has anyone verified this? seems pretty wild for a world quest trinket
craggy pilot
lol boon still there 😄
cinder storm
Third boss UR 17+ slaps hard AF on an 400 alt with 392 shield
sick sentinel
just bring immunity class really
cinder storm
Never considered he could auto so hard, it was a fun experience
sick sentinel
under rot 3rd boss wipe when you don't clear enough shrooms and they explode is super gross wipe
mighty knoll
Has anyone verified this? seems pretty wild for a world quest trinket
Apparently it’s kinda buggy & does double damage sometimes?
warm plinth
Someone said in here the other day that it's not simming properly
mighty knoll
Sounds about right
broken kite
gonna assume it's just a broken sim and not waste my time trying to get it
daring marlin
damn a pogstorm and a mark
chrome falcon
The vp trinket usually does like 2% more for me but gz sick trinky
i didn't even know that trinket existed
daring marlin
@marble cipher @chrome falcon grats lads
chrome falcon
is bloodmallet bugged for that trinket or something
it shows it dead bottom
must be wrong
mighty knoll
Probably simming vs one target or smth
chrome falcon
no like
toxic pewter
The vp trinket usually does like 2% more for me but gz sick trinky
How is vp trinkets single target damage
chrome falcon
it sims worse than trinkets with no stats that do 0 damage
mighty knoll
Probably will do like 400kin a 2-3 minute st
I’ve been running it for ages and it’s almost 10% of my overall in a lot of dungeons
chrome falcon
no mainstat tho
mighty knoll
First pull of vp 22 last night did like 2m ish
daring marlin
despite that it still slaps
mighty knoll
Vers number go up
chrome falcon
i think anvil is better than mark of dargrul
mighty knoll
chrome falcon
they're both doing like 6% of my damage in every key
but anvil has main stat
mark has crit
mighty knoll
I run mark+thunder in most keys then just slap treemouths on scary stuff, haven’t felt anvil do much for me
mighty knoll
Glad they nerfed weapons of order before the guild brew got it
daring marlin
lmao
toxic pewter
So which would you guys try to get vp trinket or mark of dargrul if you had to pick
Been trying to get a 2nd trinket for a while no luck
sick sentinel
I wanna import a ui but somehow it just pastes the code but doesnt add the weakaura
am I doing something wrong
just says error decoding
mighty knoll
So which would you guys try to get vp trinket or mark of dargrul if you had to p...
I would suggest vp, little worse on single target but it goes boom everywhere else + vers
crude notch
I wanna import a ui but somehow it just pastes the code but doesnt add the weaka...
Well are you importing a UI or a WA?
If you're importing a UI that's usually done via Elvui, if you're importing a WA that is what's done via WA.
It doesn't help that you can get ElvUI import codes via the WA website but you still have to import those through ElvUI
vagrant gazelle
does spell block mitigate dot damage? example, flaming slash on rashok?
mighty valley
no, but also flaming slash isn't a dot?
warm plinth
yeah flaming slash is just initial hit + debuff
vagrant gazelle
oh fuck i was jsut tracking the debuff duration thinkign it was a dot lol my bad ty guys
sick sentinel
i think the gfame took mercy on us
healer died to IDK, didn't realize until i kept on missing HP
hardy snow
does spell block mitigate dot damage? example, flaming slash on rashok?
its a one hit, not dot and yes, spell block blocks it
toxic pewter
got an evoker that refuses to do evoker buff
summer lintel
Hey all, tanking mythic rashok and having a really rough time. Has anyone successfully killed and have some pointers for not getting absolutely clapped? Currently rotating a metric ton of externals to make it happen, wondering if I'm just missing something obvious
sonic moon
🪵
warm plinth
cinder nova
I'm taking like 700K hits through Def stance and SR
How the hell are you expected to live that.
uneven mason
figured I'd just go ahead and do the weekly timewalking even though awww I don't need any garbage from that place...
daring marlin
lmao
hallow phoenix
How the hell are you expected to live that.
Just have a CD for every one. SR + Def stance should be enough if youre out of cds
save rally for yourself if needed
cinder nova
Nah, I straight went down to 28K after one.
I need to pad my bar with a ton of IP to avoid spiking too hard
It's absolutely cracked
warm plinth
this is what Sense did on 22 tyr
cinder nova
Needed sac and bark.
warm plinth
yep
cinder nova
No shot that's not overtuned.
uneven mason
Isn't there some LOS tech
also how the balls is Drogbar rocks out simming the Nelth call to chaos
uneven mason
lame
cinder nova
Yeah, well, we don't have an AOE on every rotational button we press.
Sorry, all but one.
Forgot.
uneven mason
I was gonna be like isn't the issue we're like, legitimately all AoE but SS
shrewd cedar
hey i saw a macro posted awhile back but forgot to save it it was a cast sequence for thunderous roar and ravager with like a reset and ravager cast on my self , any help would be apprec
uneven mason
no
cinder nova
I was gonna be like isn't the issue we're like, legitimately all AoE but SS
Still not enough.
uneven mason
seems suss
cinder nova
Paladin is already busted, but this trinket makes them insane.
They get 40-50% uptime.
uneven mason
seems "We added 5% damage taken because we didn't want tanks to use this, so lets add some hidden aura that makes the tank proc rate fucking shit"
uneven mason
or is it just warriors
cinder nova
Prot paladin gets tons of uptime.
uneven mason
how obtuse
toxic pewter
wat the deal with enh shamans not dropping their windfury totem
cinder nova
Melee brain.
toxic pewter
my OCD was going off the charts
prisma crane
Still waiting to get back the damage we lost from the BR fix
toxic pewter
I am hoping a tuning round is coming up... season has been going now for a few weeks
toxic pewter
:/
sick sentinel
i think pwar is fine :S
prisma crane
i dont think that saying we're behind in damage is being doomer or saying that we're not "fine"
it would just be nice to hold a candle to DH or Bear
or at LEAST keep up with the batman toolbelt that is pally
modern brook
The single most doomer thing ever typed in this chat during df is now "wishing we could be more like bear"
prisma crane
lmao
only in damage!
they should give us a battle res, some form of shout that yells people back into existence
daring marlin
they should give us a battle res, some form of shout that yells people back into...
I think that'd be hilarious
If they ever did they won't it should cost 80 rage minimum.
prisma crane
hot take, i dont think battle res should be a resource thing for tanks
taking the GCD is penalty alone
or anyone for that matter, but bare minimum tanks
i also think that engi res should have range
battle res shouldnt be a pain in the ass to use, the difficulty is their limited nature
daring marlin
We're in accord there.
scarlet sable
anyone happen to notice anything weird ever with double rolling shadowflame? I've been running it and i noticed the other night for some reason it was acting as if i only had 1 on. it was clearly doing half the dmg it was supposed to per hit but i definitely had 2 on
min hit was like 8000 instead of 16000
prisma crane
also would like to see shit like fear and demo shout off the gcd
prisma crane
anyone happen to notice anything weird ever with double rolling shadowflame? I'v...
was it hitting twice as often?
i cant remember how it works if it doubles dmg or procs
scarlet sable
no it was literally acting like i had 1 embellishment on, i got like 3-3.5% if you compared it to logs the night before in the same gear it was doing 2x as much and hitting 2x as hard
wcl was down during the raid so i didn't notice until 2 days later
straight up goes from doing 1.5m in 6.5 minutes to 800k and all the hits are half as much
i'd say user error but i've made sure
scarlet sable
i cant remember how it works if it doubles dmg or procs
it doubles the dmg btw
i'm pretty sure it fixed itself when i relogged after the raid too
crude notch
come tank my 21 Halls yogi
sick sentinel
next thing you guys will tell me is there is a teleport from valdraken to legion
sick sentinel
yeah well, if i forget something
its a 15 minute cd
cuz, i don't frequent dalaran let alone legion dalaran
crude notch
the "if I forget something" can be applied anywhere
crude notch
kek
sick sentinel
make your own keystone or run with players willing to put up with your bullshit
daring marlin
This is PINK COUNTRY
crude notch
please don't kill guilford
sick sentinel
paladins are welcome until they are over bearing
crude notch
when he feels like having no actual group contribution
daring marlin
definitely not as annoying as having to use RP on dk tho
crude notch
30 rage for bear. That's almost a full ass maul
crude notch
but i always laugh when i see a feral try to cast rebirth while i'm in the group on bear
because they have to form swap
daring marlin
what a buffoon
crude notch
hardcore
daring marlin
that's why
crude notch
yep
toxic pewter
actually one of the most egregious situations I can think of O_O
daring marlin
pls blizzard
crude notch
they've never given any response to anyone that's asked them about it either
toxic pewter
it would be one think if balance couldnt do it too
but its wild they can
major slap in the face
crude notch
remove corruption used to not be able to be cast as bear in BfA.
toxic pewter
yeah its gotta be intentional with how many abilities they have enabled in various forms
maybe its a melee thing
but then theres dk and ret...
hmmm
does rebirth have a cost
crude notch
30 rage for bear
toxic pewter
maybe its an energy issue
crude notch
it's also insta for bear
crude notch
well you can just make it cost 30 energy or 3 combo points
mind you cps doesn't make sense
toxic pewter
yeah hmm
toxic pewter
really is pretty messed up
pretty sure you can stay in form and use engineer brez
lmao
crude notch
They obviously went out of their way to make it instacast on bear, versus the other specs, so the fact that you just can't cast it insta or not in feral is dumb.
crude notch
yeah it is
toxic pewter
ok
fast knot
Bane of my existence
timber nest
when can i drop T29 2P
crude notch
they don't move
they got that dump truck
undone verge
that feeling when you have a rank 1 parse but wipe at 1%
undone verge
had 
crude notch
I was first place in the race... but didn't finish.
undone verge
was first in the race but then someone shot me 20 feet from the finish line
sonic moon
Apparently prot warriors are only represented in 4% of all timed keys above 17.
cinder nova
That's not unusual.
sonic moon
I assumed I was getting denied because Im not a prot paladin but I didn't think it'd be that bad.
crude notch
a prot warrior 🙂
oh you meant affix
It's a free affix once again for monk, bear, pally
cinder nova
What is afflicted.
crude notch
What would be the most annoying thing with afflicted?
the worst combo would probably be bursting because then you're potentially running into dispel overlaps for your healer.
But like I was saying yesterday, this current combo is probably the worst potential combo of the season and it's far better than any "worst" combo we've ever had
crude notch
What is afflicted.
While in combat, Afflicted Souls periodically appear and seek the aid of players. They must be healed to full or dispelled before their cast, Afflicted Cry, goes off or they will reduce all players haste by 100% for 10 seconds.
So another affix warrior can do nothing about 🙂
daring marlin
I hate freehold
uneven mason
So that Chaos trinket, 20% uptime, TC is the only ability that can proc it???
daring marlin
azralon group or the group that says "CHADS ONLY"
we go with azralon
slappers
@crude notch I had something funny happen the other day. Some Warrior was crying in the heroic Nelth pug I was doing cuz he had the add debuff and I murdered him with wake.
No, Nelth wasn't on the add. He just didn't do his job.
copper lava
Is there a centralized list like tank notes that has what we can spell reflect/spell block? Trying to figure out what I can and when I should run spell block
For m+
warm plinth
In the FAQ there's a block/reflect sheet. But keep in mind that just because there's a lot of spell blockable shit in the dungeon doesn't necessarily mean it's a necessity to run spell block there.
A lot of weak shit is blockable
copper lava
Ah I just have missed it. Cool thanks
covert aurora
as prot warrior, sometimes going dps, does it matter much arms vs fury?
toxic pewter
wait what why
daring marlin
did less than half the damage of my beacon
sick sentinel
azralon group or the group that says "CHADS ONLY"
i seem to recall "you can only join the raid if you have the new store mount" being a thing in bfa
toxic pewter
lol
warm plinth
bruh how you gonna compare a trinket to Beacon as the measure of whether it's shit or not XD
daring marlin
😛
sick sentinel
neltharion lair tomorrow
daring marlin
only slightly outdid my melee idk bro
crude notch
did less than half the damage of my beacon
bruh beacon is just nuts
you need to calm tf down
comparing trinkets to beacon
is unreasonable lol
sick sentinel
in part, i stopped keys today because i went outside and bee stung me on primary clicking finger
daring marlin
% wise how much are you guys getting out of it in dungeons
sick sentinel
doesn't hurt really, its like a -1 hp
just, debuff needs time to go away and set up deterrent/kill bee
crude notch
% wise how much are you guys getting out of it in dungeons
not much about 5-7% sounds right.
daring marlin
yeah mine was 5% last run
crude notch
Trinkets outside of Beacon this tier kinda be just aite tbh
crude notch
alchemy stone it up nerd
crude notch
get your pvp badge
daring marlin
maybe
crude notch
is anvil good for ppal, i assume so
daring marlin
I'm sure it is.
final mist
is anvil good for ppal, i assume so
good for all tanks ST, I'm sure
crude notch
good for all tanks ST, I'm sure
it's a bit funny for bear because it works on raze too
daring marlin
and if that happens more power to him
crude notch
Like Boon is still one of the best trinkets (in AoE) this patch and that's at 421
daring marlin
after using that on my dk
I'm glad I don't have one
can I just bubble while using it? yes
no I don't want it still lol
undone verge
nerf onyx and erranog tbh so we can get haste rings
daring marlin
I have sincere doubts they'll nerf them
undone verge
fr
final mist
nerf onyx most importantly, so that we can get 1400 stats back
fr fr
my sub rogue gonna be 560 average ilevel, still using annulet
daring marlin
crude notch
I have sincere doubts they'll nerf them
they just need to gut the interaction with blood+proph and it's done for
just turn it off problem solved.
astral crystal
is there anywhere i can check what the most taken talents for a particular encounter are other than manually sifting through logs?
final mist
I got cloak and vial out of the UR I just did
Man I'm so happy for you (i actually hate you so much)
astral crystal
logs should tell you at the top
what part?
astral crystal
ty
undone verge
only 45% on UF is wild
daring marlin
Man I'm so happy for you (i actually hate you so much)
It's like this dude built this HoI group to just live through Khajin
mage and double lock
undone verge
what level?
undone verge
lag machines
daring marlin
jordan when I get rashok trinket I wanna int keys with you as holy
copper lava
Bro annulet does like absurd damage for me in keys. It’s like 25% or my damage or something
oak ivy
Do demon hunters do that much more damage than us or am I trolling my rotation
mighty valley
have you got any logs? we're not exactly slapping right now but idk how far behind you are
crude notch
Bro annulet does like absurd damage for me in keys. It’s like 25% or my damage o...
If annulet is doing 25% of your damage in keys, you're doing something horribly wrong rotationally, no offense.
crude notch
jordan when I get rashok trinket I wanna int keys with you as holy
HPal new meta in 10.1.5 so bring it on
Bear+HPal
glacial skiff
Should we replace diurnia's ring once we have a 441 ring with high haste?
amber siren
the shield ring? you can just replace it whenever you get a higher ilvl ring with any stats, its only draw was that it was the highest ilvl ring available at the time
glacial skiff
nah i thought ppl were talking about the dps ring?
filial duty is the shield one, diurnias is the damage proc one
lusty grotto
its bis until nerfed for ST
for keys, you can probably replace with a 441 or 447 with decent stats
mighty valley
we will forever be confused that the ring with Diurna in the name did not drop off Diurna
well, until next patch at least
sick sentinel
lol he was low ilvl, no tier set etc
ebon wren
hey does LFR work to unlock those bosses for vault? (future vaults too)
urban portal
Only for that difficulty
So if you do lfr sarketh you’ll unlock every boss in lfr
But not normal
ebon wren
right but, can those boss loot tables appear in dungeon vault drops? like if next week I only run dungeons, can aberrus drops appear in my vault
ashen brook
hey guys random question how good is the shadowed impact bracer shield
mighty knoll
shit
ashen brook
what makes it bad
mighty knoll
mate of mine crafted it & it did abysmal dmg consistently, maybe in some keys itd be ok? just seems like a super low value embel
ashen brook
what would be the best shield then
mighty knoll
what would be the best shield then
probably just a 447 crafted w. patch
urban portal
right but, can those boss loot tables appear in dungeon vault drops? like if ne...
No dungeon is dungeon only
tame jasper
vault has 3 rows: raid, dungeons and pvp
you might want to have a look at: https://www.wowhead.com/de/guide/great-vault-dragonflight
crude notch
Am I the only one that has no desire to play D4?
modern gale
No
crude notch
Kanga
proper roost
jordan
proper roost
i did not hue
novel quartz
d4 hype
vocal nimbus
Wow gold paid d4 so 🤷♂️
dry spear
hey guys. what are you going to craft next reset? thinking about a haste/crit ring and drop the eranog mythic ring. dmg aside, feels bad to run a 221 ring imo. or a juice haste&crit neck and keep the rings.
crude notch
Mwahi how are you, kind sir
oblique kayak
hey guys. what are you going to craft next reset? thinking about a haste/crit ri...
neck for me
crude notch
How about you?
Work "week" is over so I'm vibing.
strong forum
hey guys. what are you going to craft next reset? thinking about a haste/crit ri...
I crafted neck, cuz there are no good necks from m+ besides uldaman one but I want crit/haste
tired girder
On the weekly heroic dungeons quest is more worth the token or the gear 415?
I only have 2 items below 415. Other ones are higher
strong forum
Gear
The drake crests arent usable on gear from +11s or higher
With picking a 415 you could potentially have a very good ring or trinket that's upgradable to 437
craggy pilot
can i get Wyrm crest from anything else than M+ or HC?
boreal lake
Hi there,got already Frost Fire Belt 447 what should be my second embelischment?
daring marlin
can i get Wyrm crest from anything else than M+ or HC?
No
Well, that's not true. You can downgrade aspects to Wyrm too.
ionic fern
Hi there,got already Frost Fire Belt 447 what should be my second embelischment?
Shadowflame.
daring marlin
boots good spot
boreal lake
Ok thx alot
sick sentinel
what is the point of enchanted whelping crests
they only seem to go to a maximum of 408 and only work on craft items
so..... what...???
sick sentinel
yesssss
i finally learned i can taxi into zaralek, im not a fan of doing the fly manually, it even sent me to some strange hellish realm one time last week
daring marlin
sick sentinel
said hellscape
after colliding with 2 rocks on a wall and triggering a load transition screen >.>
at least im getting 400 frames per second there
uneven mason
Bruh limit your fps before you melt something
Or am I the only one that remers SC ii loading screens hitting 1200fps and bricking Nvidia cards
sick sentinel
i remember when the winner from a starcraft tournament got bitcoin and used it towards buying a pizza
uneven mason
bit the bullet
latent steppe
bit the bullet
latent steppe
do you guys think taking this is worth?
was thinking about avatar + shockwave can do a giga dmg
sick sentinel
do you guys think taking this is worth?
not really no
cerulean tusk
Not worth, if you are not pulling extremely big all the time (as SW is not target capped) 
but fun in low keys
sick sentinel
shockwave is use more for the stun than it is the dps
that's pretty much the primary reason you don't take SWave enchancing things
urban bane
do you guys think taking this is worth?
incredibly not worth; encourages you to shockwave on CD which isn't really how shockwave should be used (a super good frontal stun stop). doing it on CD also will build up DR on the mobs for stuns, eventually making them temporarily immune to stuns
sick sentinel
with only battleshout 424 ilvl, my shockwave is 6200, so with SBoom it does 21.5k dmg, and thats only like 43k on a crit which is double dmg
so, your only gunna get like 1000 dps from it because it also has a 40 second CD (no you don't take rumbling earth either)
if you could take both talents, and you hit 3 targets every time and hit it on cd, you'd do about 1500dps
more on group composition and communication if you use all your stuns on some trash dude and then your group doesn't have a poly morph or blind effect effect say
potent gulch
what shield is it?
deft raptor
Hey guys, as a fury player since the dawn of time, now trying prot warrior for the 1st time, are there any useful things i should have for m+ especially, weak auras, addons? stuff like that
latent steppe
prot warr hidden artifact
tropic gorge
i love evokers that are so hell bent on their opener they dont move at all. die within seconds of the first boss in FH then leave after the group wipes
mumbles
sick sentinel
i love evokers that are so hell bent on their opener they dont move at all. die ...
i just run on the assumption that my team is trying to do the best they can and not actively fuck over the team
alot less headache if i think about what the rogue is actually doing
jagged pier
was thinking about avatar + shockwave can do a giga dmg
I dont know what u mean by giga damage because sonicboom build is less dps than thunderous roar so its smol damage not giga
sick sentinel
with only AP buff you get around 1500 dps for taking both RE and SBoom so with full buffs probably just under 2k dps
and thats if you use it on cd and hit 3 things every time
so, 2 talents that add up to 1k dps each, in best case, think of it that way
(im only talking about shockwave, rumbling earth and sonic boom here nothing else)
tropic gorge
ah just had a terrible paladin. "DBM used to tell me when the sharks were coming" in freehold
i just thought "Youre why the addon changes are happening. you pay so little attention you die to
mechanics.
the shockwave build was really only used during prepatch. and it was a fun build
that's all. it was to see giga shockwave crits on bosses and packs for the lulz
cause without the supporting talents, shockwave dmg isnt terribly good or noteworthy. but with the talents it gets pretty funny
strong forum
it was always only a "for the lulz build"
tropic gorge
yepper
strong forum
that was and will for the forseeable future be the only reason to ever play the talent
tropic gorge
and just for prepatch before df
i ran it because i like shockwave and seeing it do big dam was hilarious
but its just for fun. its not a serious or competitive build
pull all the trash in uld before the first boss and shockwave it. gap everyone on the meter and just lol your way to fun
i think we are gonna see 1m hp tanks before the end of this part of the season. and next season it seems that 1m hp tanks will be the minimum
strong forum
yes
tropic gorge
dude kinda cheesed it with a big stam trinket, but my druid co tank already had just over 810k at the start of the season
strong forum
vdhs are already reaching 1mil hp without any shenanigans
by 10.3 tanks will have 2mil hp
hot gull
How do you dodge Rokmora Razor Shard? Im doing it so inconsistently
tropic gorge
just means another big stat crunch will be coming
hot gull
like towards the end of the channel or start of cast?
strong forum
literally at the start
tropic gorge
its so slow that when you notice it you can move and dodge it
hot gull
Ah okay, the boss just twirls around when I move so it made me think I was gonna nut it all over people
tropic gorge
i ate it the first few times i ran that dungeon
strong forum
he only twirls when hes not casting
tropic gorge
back to the side wall or anywhere away from the back of the room where people stand. push a or d. ez victory
neat delta
does anybody know the weakaura for annoucning when you have spell reflect up and shout out not kick?
seen some people use it but can't find it.
craggy pilot
on Rashok, does it ever happen that he does Fire - Earth - Earth
or Earth - Fire - Fire?
wraith hemlock
Isn't it physical and fire?
craggy pilot
oh ye
Earth
got oneshot by 1 Earth on my pala
really weird, but i guess it was just RNG of not blocking
did 700k dmg on me while i was in Cons with Shield of the Righteous up
wraith hemlock
The fuck was my phone trying to type there
craggy pilot
i thought i only had to do tank CD when i was the one taking 2 hits
but then i got 1shot from 1 hit 😄
wraith hemlock
Prot war has it easy for the physical one bit the fire one hits like a fucking truck
I wish work reflect would be spell block instead
Spell reflect* jfc I need more coffee
chilly ermine
what is the best way to use the trinket "a beacon to the beyond"? cause i hate the casttime 😄
toxic pewter
try to use it on pull but if i use during a pack i try shockwave then use it, or shieldwall and use
try make an opportunity to use it
chilly ermine
ok, thank you, will try it like this 🙂
toxic pewter
it can get risky sometimes thats for sure
tropic gorge
on Rashok, does it ever happen that he does Fire - Earth - Earth
he can do back2back strikes
i call those the challenge strikes because the other tank must be paying attention. its like the ones he does after the soak puddles on normal. the sneaky ones
dry tide
should we still be using elemental lariat
tropic gorge
i am at 421. havent gotten any upgrades for it
toxic pewter
check pins for recommended embellishments
strong forum
on Rashok, does it ever happen that he does Fire - Earth - Earth
random
it can be fire - fire - phys
it can be phys - fire - phys
it can be phys - phys - fire
it can be fire - phys - fire
it can be fire - phys - phys
strong forum
yeah i hate that
tropic gorge
ill admit ive done that
craggy pilot
Tanking with just dBm 😬😬
tropic gorge
"Oh shit i auto piloted please save me"
ionic roost
Well it only matters if you're also oblivious to it
past otter
wheres the section for talents please? i cant find it
cerulean tusk
A lot of pug tanks just taunt after 1st hit because dBm says so 😅
DBM can be followed, no problem. Don't blame DBM, blame the players 
Also, pug tanks on HC keep flopping to the very first hit anyhow, not using defensives and going ???
cerulean tusk
wheres the section for talents please? i cant find it
Talents are in the pins, the wowhead links, 2 down. To get to pins click the 📌 icon top of your screen. If you are on a phone, swipe to get there.
sick sentinel
A lot of pug tanks just taunt after 1st hit because dBm says so 😅
T A O U N T BOSS
tame jasper
A lot of pug tanks just taunt after 1st hit because dBm says so 😅
what is funny as its the exact same mechanic as two tiers ago on skolax
sick sentinel
dbm was exceptionally agressive on halondrous about taunts
craggy pilot
DBM can be followed, no problem. Don't blame DBM, blame the players <:sadge:8202...
I did just flop to the first on my pal 😂 thought shield + cons was enough for 1
Went fine for first 5 pulls then i just died on 6th
cerulean tusk
pale hill
Question on the double shadowflame embellishments; do they not share ICD and thus making two of them not worth it??
pale hill
Not sure about that. I know it did on PTR, but I've heard it doesn't on live.
Any logs to support?
pale hill
Thanks
junior brook
Does Spell Block do anything good for the Rashok tank combo?
cinder pasture
It allows you to block the Flaming slash
sick sentinel
Hello need à war 2k7 Rio plz for talents
daring marlin
Hello need à war 2k7 Rio plz for talents
fresh igloo
Hello need à war 2k7 Rio plz for talents
there's recommended talent builds in the pins
proper roost
think he wants talents from someone who is exactly 2k7
true marsh
does anyone know if forgestorm is worth as prot warrior?
true marsh
BIS?
jagged pier
yes
but u could have just opened the pins or even gone to FQA channel as its likely that question would have been asked before
should always check those 2 places before asking a question
and the closest i could find was a warrior with 2.7k score was 2700.1 or somthing but i wouldnt run his talents he had barbaric tuning and defenders aegis
so just use the build in the pins
much better talents
proper roost
barbaric training enjoyer pog
sick sentinel
is neltharion lair alaways same order of pullying
regardless of tyranical fort maybe small variation based on higher keys?
strong forum
always the same
sick sentinel
okay
and last time i ran it, before the snake? boss the healer got really mad at me
right as you come in like a door on a hill, and theres guys with green rings i think they grab you in and hurt alot, and i think there is stealth or hidden mobs ad this part also
still tons of bosses that confuse me
fresh igloo
I'm...guessing here, but if you're talking about the trash before the worm boss in NL, there's the wormybois that dig and pop up somewhere else, and it's like a threat drop
and the grubmaster dudes summon grubs that need to be killed/stunned
sick sentinel
well, i'd have to dig
but it seemed like way more came with that pack from behind or somethin
fresh igloo
so there's two different trash types that could pop up unexpectedly if you're not looking
need more info to know what you're talking about
might have just been some pug pulling something and not saying
cinder storm
It's not your fault yogi, people tend to run like headless chickens away from tank
scenic bough
anyone have a good sark pov?
sick sentinel
give it like, 5 minutes
i got the clip uploading on YT cuz i don't want to spam you guys with a 231 mb file
the whole fight took about 2 minutes to clear and includes multiple deaths
and it was only on a +8 so i assume i or someone else did something grossly wrong
not HD yet, but will be soon
fresh igloo
people ignoring the metamorphosing grub i think
hard to tell on potato and your very zoomed in view heh
cinder pasture
Yea, that's people not stunning/knocking back the worms
fresh igloo
I've never actually SEEN what happens when you ignore that mechanic tbh
so that's on the whole group. both tank and anyone else could have stunned it, and help kill it.
@sick sentinel so the things I mentioned before. make sure you taunt the worm that digs away, don't just ignore it. and make sure the grub is handled before you run off, because clueless dps are probably just blindly following you.
sick sentinel
so, what your telling me, is put a big ole skull over this dude and have the group dumpster him immediately
fresh igloo
i mean, sure, but that won't solve any of the problems I just mentioned
i doubt you'll kill him before the grub is summoned.
not sure if that's possible tbh
but the grub is easy to kill if you don't completely ignore it
ignoring it turns in to a mess (that's kinda the point of the mechanic)
mortal brook
Or just disrupt the cast then safely ignore
sick sentinel
i think my plan is to attempt to use cow stomp and or shock wave on them
mortal brook
Cuz itll just do nothin. But if cast goes off a big nasty pops up and yoinks ppl into a poison field. Usually lethal
scarlet dune
Are we talking about the Grub or the Grubmaster? The grub can be ignored if you hit it with hard cc (one of our many stuns works great), meanwhile the grubmaster does a 360 aoe at it's feet that isn't really avoidable unless you're kiting it, just need to have block up and IP running
fresh igloo
based on the video clip I think the grub itself was 100% ignored by everyone.
strong forum
grub you just stormbolt and gg go next
fresh igloo
anyone could have helped with that but no one did
scarlet dune
That'll do it - priority stun it and just cleave it down. It does nothing after metamorphosis is stopped
sick sentinel
i just have to know what the hell im supposed to be looking for
sick sentinel
if it takes me 3 minutes to figure out mechanic ah, no good.
were all dead now
at least i know grub this time around
scarlet dune
Most of the dungeon addons will tell you what to do when the grub spawns - if you don't run Littlewigs (or something similar) you may want to consider it while you're learning the dungeons
fresh igloo
little baby grub.
seems like you're probably playing too zoomed in and not able to see what else is happening around you
tropic gorge
time to see if pug dps wanna keep blowing up my keys
started with FH18. that died on the first boss because some evoker ate 2 mechanics in a row. the bird + shotgun blast and died. healer rage quit after that. he rezzed the dragon and dude ate the bird again lmao
second time dps was a bit on the retarded side of things for higher io and completed players. made me very sad
scarlet dune
Early bird gets the wyrm?
teal heron
better than a 424 onyx?
scarlet dune
no
teal heron
SADGE
scarlet dune
Well - depends, but likely no
fresh igloo
don't throw it away.
scarlet dune
^
tropic gorge
you can sim but obv only for dmg output
sick sentinel
i don't see people dropping annulet till 10.2
i think whenever 10.2 comes out ppl will move on from it then
fresh igloo
annulet has no defensive value the way it's actually good for us
so simming for dps is what you would value it based on anyways
I'm seeing cases where sims have annulet losing already. it depends.
graceful cobalt
hi should i play with Mark of dragrul and Ward of Faceless Ire or Mark of dragrul and Vial of Animated Blood
strong forum
theres no 1 answer to this
play dps trinkets until you need ward to save your group
sick sentinel
we sim for dps based on the assumption that we only take the dmg that is nessecary to be taken and we avoid all fire puddles or stepping on a magama laser that triggers bomb killing 3 ppl
graceful cobalt
ok thx
tropic gorge
yogi that's awful specific lmao
earnest canyon
ngl, reflecting high tyrannical primal tsunami is the best feeling throughout whole season two
tropic gorge
i like reflecting that big ass flashy strike in. whatever dungeon that is
nelth lair?
sick sentinel
its just like real life
toxic goop or fire? don't stand in that, bunch of wolves protecting something? don't go over there
tropic gorge
alright vp 16. lets see if i can manage to fill it with a group that doesnt mouth breath
earnest canyon
ngl, reflecting high tyrannical primal tsunami is the best feeling throughout wh...
2.5mil per reflect 
tropic gorge
breathe
torn gulch
yea squall reflects are the best
scenic bough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujF1AhxGPPc
thanks so much!
torn gulch
or NL sunder, poison and molten charge
scarlet dune
Reflecting Sunder on the 2nd boss in NL pretty awesome too... And Frost Shock in HOI
torn gulch
yea third boss can be a pain and a lot of the time is out of your control
because people can't direct the tornado
that boss has a little bit of a pattern of ice walls if you don't destroy them
violet lynx
Hey guys, I heard that we can reflect the dot on third boss in uldaman
torn gulch
well as a tank you don't normally get it
if you get it things are bad
warrior dps on the other hand
violet lynx
Oh mb xd i'm in wrong chan 🥲
scarlet dune
Yee, Snek does not give the tank the dot unless dps are dead
toxic pewter
someone asked at one point if you can intervene ally and spell reflect it.. but not sure if thats possible
torn gulch
it is not
toxic pewter
sounds good
torn gulch
i don't know if i am right but it seems to me that you can reflect chain lightning on asaad
if you go in the circle with the target
covert kayak
how much dps does the 4 set add in mythic plus?
torn gulch
i've seen 5 to 8%
covert kayak
had really bad luck still only 2set
torn gulch
of total damage
covert kayak
fair not bad at all
torn gulch
i have 1 set because i do not raid
still do 18 20 keys with no tier set
kekeke
i'll get my 4 set with catalyst when it comes
covert kayak
nice
echo egret
Is Elementium Pocket Anvil good enough to make a fuss about loot in a raid ?
torn gulch
to play
covert kayak
i dont do keys outside og my group but i assume our dps is fine
fresh igloo
Is Elementium Pocket Anvil good enough to make a fuss about loot in a raid ?
it's a good trinket. define "make a fuss"
generally speaking no loot is worth the drama lol
echo egret
I didn't notice it wasn't on the prot loot table
So I didn't get to roll against the winner
scarlet dune
Hmmm weird, I simmed with a 424 pocket anvil vs my 411 Drogbar Rocks and it's a dps loss...
karmic plinth
pins talking about dropping enduring defenses if the fight allows, what do we pick up? tough as nails? massacre?
sick sentinel
oh
so, i got ate by the worm like 3 times
firs attempt, i got ate twice and we called a wipe
warm plinth
the spell block , block ticks from last raid boss dot?
Yes, last boss dot is blockable with spell block
sharp ruin
oooooh very nice
warm plinth
Have you tried not getting eaten
sick sentinel
and then i figured out something about spiked tounge ability its attached to
sharp ruin
so with 1 spell block u will block for the full time of the dot
the dot is 21 secs , spell bblock 20 secs
is so strong 😄
thx man
warm plinth
np
sick sentinel
whats the mechanic to not get eaten
warm plinth
The puddles
They slow you
You need to let it pull you into a puddle and keep running away from boss
and it'll keep you from being eaten
thin silo
Depending on timing some might despawn though so be careful
sick sentinel
i also did this bad thing to my group too
pointed one of those right at the entire group
warm plinth
You know why you did that yogi?
I can tell you by what I watched in your video
YOU NEVER STAY THE FUCK STILL
limpid estuary
Anyone else having a terrible time getting invited to 20 keys?
Im 2654 IO and have timed the key on a 20 and cant get an inv
warm plinth
hushed harbor
whats the mechanic to not get eaten
You can also leap away and tuck yourself behind the furthest eggs or rocks or whatever the fuck they are
Start running with like 3 seconds left on the cast. Very cheesy.
dusky canopy
Im 2654 IO and have timed the key on a 20 and cant get an inv
This is the way
dusky canopy
only bacon is better, mark of dargrul comparable
Yes, yes it is
sullen gust
whats the mechanic to not get eaten
Jump into the 3 eggs at the back, boss can't pull you through em
If ur team won't drop puddles for you that is
warm plinth
You don't even really need the team to drop puddles for you
Like unless you have all melee, you should have a puddle that will work
fresh igloo
Jump into the 3 eggs at the back, boss can't pull you through em
I'd be concerned about getting back to the boss in time with that
sullen gust
I just hop back out when 3s left and charge to cover the last bit of gap
You can jump over the eggs
Boss just can't pull you
warm plinth
You just need to taunt once you're back in range of taunt and you should be able to get in melee fast enough. He has a massive hitbox
fresh igloo
You just need to taunt once you're back in range of taunt and you should be able...
Last time i was in there I charged from my puddle the moment the spiked tongue channel ended and it still chunked my melee dps almost to death
I'm a little paranoid now lol
thin silo
That's why I hate stationary bosses with "tank run out" mechanics
Unless they give it a ranged auto like Halondrus
sick sentinel
the difference is halondrous is a good fight
i played it as tank melee and ranged dps and pretty much enjoyed it as all 3 roles
im not partcularly strong at that fight, but i would happily do it again
cinder pasture
All I know is that I hate Rashok
eager knot
If I have 30% haste should i keep into the fray and go up to 40% or should i swap the talent out coz of diminishing returns?
fresh igloo
DR applies to the stats on your gear
ITF sits on top of that, so you need a full 40% from gear before it matters iirc
sick sentinel
also applies to buffs with ratings on them too
eager knot
Thanks
versed estuary
Hi guys, just started playing Prot warrior and was going to craft a shield should I just go with the Primal Molten Defender or a different one?
left basalt
Primal molten defender
limpid estuary
Hey guys brand new to simming.
I'm at 37% haste unbuffed with Into the Fray. I'm noticing that Crit is higher weighted in my simmed stats
Would you prio stuff like crit gems in my situation?
23% crit, 18% vers, 18% mastery
Or is haste just better until you hit 40% on your gear regardless of the weighted stats in sims?
warm plinth
Crit is basically always going to outsim haste unless you have very little haste or a buttload of crit. Crit/vers are both better DPS stats in general. But haste is also huge for survival and general smoothness of gameplay.
Our secondaries are largely very close together which is why we recommend haste, because it's still good for damage but it's also crazy good for survival
limpid estuary
Thanks a ton! That makes sense
warm plinth
and it feels awesome to have like 50+% haste XD
limpid estuary
haha
vivid jay
Guys, in forgotten experiments HC how much dots do you think is acceptable when last Boss do the Breath? I know less than posible, or better clear, but if you have like 2 raid dots already Up to what amount
sick sentinel
for like over 2 weeks now, i have had this WA say "its going to update" but it never ever does
i will probably post about it in the channel if it continues, but i thought i'd check here for a quick answer
pastel sleet
im likely crafting a pair of wrists tomorrow.
since i have my shield and frostfire belt and wrists are my lowest ilvl non tier piece.
do yall think primal molten + shadowedflame is better than wristguard of companionship?
strong forum
for like over 2 weeks now, i have had this WA say "its going to update" but it n...
You gotta click on the wheel to update manually, it's not automatic
If it doesn't go away after that, click ignore update
dusty monolith
just timed my first 20 this season! 
strong forum
Grats!
dusty monolith
thanks! there is no way to check if I made any major mistakes if i didnt log the key, right?
sick sentinel
losing major chunks of hp, or you die or someone in the group dies really
strong forum
thanks! there is no way to check if I made any major mistakes if i didnt log the...
Not in retrospect no
dusty monolith
tzhink i'll start logging or recording the higher runs now to review and get better
strong forum
If you died then you can check that deathlog in details for a short dmg breakdown, but besides that nothing to sniff out
craggy pilot
anyone know the Jagged Bite in Uldaman, that can be applied multiple times on the tank right... Is it possible to make a WA for that, which shows "stack count" if its applied multiple times 🤔
only thing i can find is this "Auto-clone show all matches", which does this
sick sentinel
ETA mdi?
warm plinth
anyone know the Jagged Bite in Uldaman, that can be applied multiple times on th...
It doesn't stack sadly. It's just multiple separate applications.
warm plinth
Or well I guess not sadly lol
strong forum
was better for ToM
I miss the real ToM
craggy pilot
It doesn't stack sadly. It's just multiple separate applications.
ye i know, but i want my WA to show the stacks
rather than showing the same icon 2x
if that makes sense 😄
warm plinth
ohhh
daring marlin
I miss the real ToM
broooooooo BFA ToM but with current arms mastery
the MS crits instead of goofy giga bleeds
daring marlin
only thing I'd like is a good spender that isn't on cd
strong forum
daring marlin
otherwise hell yeah
strong forum
I didn't like s1 arms
sick sentinel
BFA was fine good even
daring marlin
I hated it in ST tho
sick sentinel
but it meant having to use devestator
molten mural
I accidently crafted a 447 wep in first week. However i just got a hero Forgestorm drop.
441 forgestorm vs 447 wep?
strong forum
441 beats the 447 until 5 targets
molten mural
But after 5 targets its the 447?
sick sentinel
need 1 more wyrm piece and i can get another enchanted
strong forum
But after 5 targets its the 447?
That's what is implied with that, yes
molten mural
So single target its better aswell? Like in raid?
strong forum
Forgestorm is the strongest weapon for raid
sick sentinel
spriest spiked at 350k in key i just ran
strong forum
what if i tell you
you can create a weakaura that automatically tracks if you have any usable trinket equipped
daring marlin
👀
daring marlin
you're killin' me bro
sick sentinel
i had a really good one for battleshout in BFA
if i had to press the button cuz 2 people didn't have it, it would appear
then i lost it forever, tried to recreated it once, that didn't work
strong forum
these 2 trinket weakauras will make your on-use trinket life infinitely easier
and it doesnt get more lightweight than this, stop downloading cringe trinket specific weakauras for something simple as this
dry spear
Or make two macros for trinket one and two. Put both in your actionbar and see the cooldown
sudden palm
Does Shard of Rokmora work against bleeds/dots?
strong forum
Or make two macros for trinket one and two. Put both in your actionbar and see t...
but that requires visible action bars
this is much cleaner
strong forum
Does Shard of Rokmora work against bleeds/dots?
should work against everything
sudden palm
I just flop when tanking third boss in mythic
sick sentinel
plater is really good
sudden palm
And I wanted to use that to manage my debuff while we can't clear due to the aoe
strong forum
clear before shit goes off
you need to properly coordinate with your cotank
also have rogues and warlocks apply attack speed slows
sudden palm
Yeah on the phase than 2nd and 3rd boss are alive, we clear once, but he goes into AoE and the other boss is hitting while that's happening. Before the debuff falls off we both have very high stacks and we flop
Oooo! That's a good idea!
strong forum
thats a must on pretty much every boss
if warlocks arent slamming on curse of exhaustion theyre hard trolling
also warlock and rogue atk speed slow stacks iirc
so ideally get both to do it
sick sentinel
damn, i thought they did mdi every season
undone verge
TGP gonna be fun
sick sentinel
so, tgp will be a shorter weekend week long event i guess
strong forum
The seasons are too short to do both in 1
dusky canopy
If I have 441+ Mh/Oh I should be able to bring 2hs to 441 also with just flightstones correct?
strong forum
Yes
dusky canopy
Sweet!
primal mauve
Is Thunderous Roar something I really need to take?
sick sentinel
amazed the game hasn't given me free hold yet
i've got an under rot 15 in the bags, maybe
primal mauve
I was wondering if I can take Spear of Bastion instead of THunderous Roar
sick sentinel
no, spear of bastion isn't good
read , blood and thunder, thunderous words, and unstoppable force (and to lesser extent bloodsurge)
strong forum
Well you can play spear but TR is just better
sick sentinel
all of those effects work together, hell, even bloodborne (which is another bad talent)
the problem with taking spear and shockwave builds is that bleeds build exodia'd appeared for us
cunning knot
Do you guys think prot will be buffed this season?
daring marlin
lmao
priest threw away potential 2 chest in VP cuz they wanted to try to juggle mc on last boss
big brain
sick sentinel
priest threw away potential 2 chest in VP cuz they wanted to try to juggle mc on...
priest POV
dusky canopy
Do you guys think prot will be buffed this season?
If anything some damage compensation since they fixed the Crit damage bug.
But otherwise doubtful were pretty strong, community perception is just whack
hardy snow
then i lost it forever, tried to recreated it once, that didn't work
https://wago.io/apbuffs/11 im using this one 🙂
torn gulch
so now the potential affixes next two weeks are either afflicted/bursting or afflicted sanguine or volcanic/bursting or volcanic/sanguine
interesting
toxic pewter
honestly just dont like sanguine
torn gulch
it is what it is
sick sentinel
sanguine can be really gross but it can also be just fine too
torn gulch
bursting/volcanic/fort next week let's go
sick sentinel
that sounds easy enough
craggy pilot
how does the Chain work in Neltharus? does it only do dmg to the 1 mob it hits or what?
and is it a job for me as the tank if it does friendly dmg?
and i guess i need to grp the pack before i pull the chain
or it will only do dmg to half the pack 🤔
hardy snow
didnt they deleted sanguine for this season? 🤔
warm plinth
how does the Chain work in Neltharus? does it only do dmg to the 1 mob it hits o...
Honestly the chains are a fucking meme because of how hard it hits players.
No, grievous and quaking
craggy pilot
Honestly the chains are a fucking meme because of how hard it hits players.
so i shouldnt try to plan around them?
craggy pilot
isnt there a way to just make it hit myself only?
as the tank i should be able to survive it no?
warm plinth
Yeah but if the group doesn't know you're going to, it's really easy for them to get hit
Because pugs be dumb
daring marlin
Hits allies too? That's fuckin' funny.
craggy pilot
https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/13v61yr/neltharus_nerfs/
was just reading this, and a guy writing about chains in there
"You can literally get free damage from the chains, 100M+ that scales with key level. You can pull entire wings into the chains and clear them out in seconds. The timer is fine, magmatusk is finally a fair fight with the using the achievement potion on him. If you use the chains properly on trash you can easily get to the last boss up to 24 with 6+ minutes left. Neltharus timer is fine, the only issue is the mobs that spam bleeds and melt. The amount of pugs I’ve seen who have no idea how to use chains blows my minds or that they even exist, can’t complain about the timer when your not using the tools provided to you in the dungeon to assist."
warm plinth
Also I am pretty sure they fixed the achievement potion already. I used it on him yesterday and he still got up to 5 stacks
craggy pilot
yea idk, the achievement thing seems like a weird thing to learn, when it will 100% be fixed in a few days
daring marlin
why is chipotle tabasco sauce so good
warm plinth
Yeah and he's saying it like they intended us to use the potion on him like "it's a fair fight now" lol
daring marlin
oh muh GAWD
warm plinth
Like no, it's a cheese strat
craggy pilot
Yeah and he's saying it like they intended us to use the potion on him like "it'...
xD
i hate these cheese strats
my friend was trying to show me how to skip the 2 Timewalkers in the end of Uldaman on a +14 🤣
daring marlin
They are lame as they're based entirely around having prior knowledge.
craggy pilot
its like "wtf bro, if you cant heal +14 maybe we should do something else" 😂😂
daring marlin
hey that skip is legit bro
brittle veldt
Also I am pretty sure they fixed the achievement potion already. I used it on h...
I used it twice today and the fight felt much easier wasn’t paying attention to stacks.
daring marlin
fuck those two
craggy pilot
ye fuck em, but on a +14 man
i dont wanna bother with crazy easter egg skips or shit in +14
warm plinth
Yeah that strat is legit on high keys but I wouldn't skip until like
at least 17 fort/20 tyr
craggy pilot
idk im probably gonna do up to 20 without skipping them
warm plinth
I pull to the doorway so people can LoS if they want but otherwise I just do them
craggy pilot
and just having Priest in grp
warm plinth
You have to have priest anyway to skip them as far as I know
Pretty sure they have true sight
warm plinth
You need to soothe to do that I'm pretty sure. That's the skip that was explained to me as the "soothe skip"
warm plinth
Huh okay
hazy bronze
You don't need soothe but the jump is more annoying the shorter your race
warm plinth
ty Nielsen
craggy pilot
You don't need soothe but the jump is more annoying the shorter your race
hahahahahahah
thats hilarious 😄
warm plinth
Oh he's doing it the harder way I think
dusky canopy
i love that its that simple honestly
warm plinth
There's an easier jump
warm plinth
Do a running jump on to the little bench thing, then jump from the corner of the bench to the corner of the wall
Very easy
dusky canopy
word
warm plinth
WHAT
craggy pilot
xD
warm plinth
Stop making sense Nome
hazy bronze
But we like having required classes in 5 man content
idle quartz
Hey guys! What kind of class comp should I be bringing? Because from talking to my team and trying to deal with incorporeal and enemy kicks, apprently DKs, warriors, warlocks, rogues, shadow priests, shamans all ‘don’t have any kicks or cc bro’