thats 3x8
#protection
jagged pier
jagged pier
ye
undone verge
3x8+17 I think is max
jagged pier
if u arent running ED it will be lower
undone verge
cause 24 max cap then 17 for Bolster
toxic pewter
so in theory can be 39 seconds?
undone verge
41 in theory I think
toxic pewter
bolster give 15 seconds
undone verge
yeah but its +2 cause of ED
pallid quiver
Enduring doesn't affect Bolster, iirc
undone verge
thought it did
toxic pewter
LS last 15 seconds and gives u shield block during last stand uptime
undone verge
im in a key I can test real quick
pallid quiver
Since it doesn't count as an application of Shield Block, it just is Shield Block
that's also why it goes past the cap
toxic pewter
ok cool
livid ocean
Sorry for the really noob/bad question, but what is the reason prot is the bottom of the bucket according to m+ keys at the moment?
astral atlas
It's good to see the population fall off a cliff and that we're no longer FOTM
fresh igloo
do you really think that's relevant to what they're talking about
livid ocean
For the key level I would be doing with prot I can surely say it is not relevant. 🙂
astral atlas
If you wanted to ask about <16s I'd have said it doesn't matter, and populations are entirely FOTM, where as in higher keys it's only mostly FOTM
jagged pier
the whole game is flavour
astral atlas
And this month the flavor is bubblegum
jagged pier
but defensively nothing changed for us so we are just as good if not better this season because of what we can spell reflect this season
i mean its been pink since before the pala buffs
astral atlas
We are slightly less tanky as tier phases out
I think <=5% changes are unnoticeable to most players, but might see more "surprise" deaths
fast burrow
Sorry for the really noob/bad question, but what is the reason prot is the bott...
😶 we the same - pally just got buffed. and they took away shield slam making things crit all the time which took about 7% of dps away, something they nerfed early on and then found what was causing it later only to not revert the other changes.
agreed
fast burrow
<:yep:703420923625078804>
On big groups i hope? lol
fast burrow
if its ST you need better dps lol
neat parrot
sooo question, im currently pushing 20's, and i dropped some good gloves and got them to 441, should i equip them over 408 and ruin the previous 4p set ? i mean s1 set
jagged pier
4 set > ilvl
astral atlas
I'm sure good players are doing fine in any tank or dps
neat parrot
4 set > ilvl
even for previous tier?
neat parrot
oh, missed that , thanks !
wary spire
is it bette to have 2 of each set or 4 of the old one
jagged pier
again its in the pins
sullen gust
Out of curiosity, which phial do you guys mostly use? I've seen a lot of tepid vers, but recently I've been running the glacial fury one, 9 times out of 10 when I wipe its not because of survivability (or thats how it feels anyway). The extra damage is pretty nice imo, or am I smoothbraining and the vers equates to more damage/the eye in the storm one I've just been sleeping on?
jagged pier
vers actually comes out to more damage generally than glical
eye of the storm is fine for aoe but on bosses its garbage
sullen gust
Damn that's wild, fair enough. I think in my head I see the damage meter in my details and go "yo look at that extra x%" without thinking what the vers phial is giving as a buff to all abilities
jagged pier
well vers is extra % damage on everything same as TR
u just dont see it
same reason ppl thought the shockwave build was good
because its on my damage meter
sullen gust
Makes sense! I had that moment of " oh " this morning and hadn't had a chance to properly look into it
Get to save a load of gold too, based
old flame
For raid as well as M+?
manic canopy
Question, the forgestorm is worth it to upgrade 441 and use it in M+ and raid? or only use it on M+ ?
hallow phoenix
For me forgestorm sims higher than a 447 on single target, but less than a 447 in aoe
I'm still grinding for a forgestorm since priority damage matters in aoe too
toxic pewter
just ran a key with a ret pally with unbound freedom, he was freedoming me the whole time it was great. amazing this week with the entangling
sick sentinel
also, i don't understand why the mobs on left and right arent selected for pull i understand why 1 dragon isnt
crude notch
Because it was an oopsie I'm sure
sick sentinel
top left
same route :S
and then, if i manually add in the extra 4 its 102.1%, sounds about right to me
novel cloak
what ilvl do u guys recommend for running say +14's. im 413 and the bolstering is just wrecking me.
novel cloak
yeh, problem with pugging rthose low keys also is that the dps are shit, crap numbers and they dont stun/kick etc
toxic pewter
are you chain pulling or something
other than that dps should try to kill packs evenly
novel cloak
nah, jkust spicy packs like in HoI where there is say 5 or 6 ina. pack
nah, end up with like 3 mobs with x3 bolstered
toxic pewter
hmm
broken kite
Hallway between frog/ice?
toxic pewter
yeah maybe tell dps to kill more evenly
broken kite
Or at the start?
sick sentinel
one exceptional way to reivew wtf actually happened to your key is to get outplayed or some other game recording software
then you just set it to record everything and when something happens go back to the time it all went wrong and then replay it till it all makes sense
novel cloak
it was just CRAZY dmg on me
i tihnk it was form the x3 bolster on multiple mobs
but in pugs, ppl just nuke, they dont care about kicks, stuns or killing stuff evenly etc
sick sentinel
bolster will teach people to kill monster casting all the bad spells
i think they will just counter it by killing the guy that is dangerous when bolstered first lol, makes sense to me
novel cloak
youd think righjt, but this is PuGs in 14s 😛
main shoal
rare bluff
someone knows the name of that website that can analyze your m+ and raid logs to tells what to improve in your playing ?
torpid scroll
Hello. I got the spell reflect essentials weak aura and it doesnt seem to be working. Anyone have any idea why? Says on wago it was updated May 16th
novel cloak
its 2500 for KSH again this seaosn right? is that all on 18s and 19s again ? or higher this time
sick sentinel
paladins still going boom to notihn
icy atlas
That's what happens with fotm
daring marlin
its 2500 for KSH again this seaosn right? is that all on 18s and 19s again ? or ...
yes
toxic pewter
running with 2 pallies pretty sweet, get both auras, blessing of freedoms for days
hardy snow
hard vine
hello people
help me out here
u can get a tier set from Draconic Mark of Mastery
?
wild island
yep theres 3 of them
hard vine
ah oki
wild island
😦
hard vine
on tier set u go for Helm, Legs, Shoulder, and Gloves ?
fresh igloo
for now I'd go for whatever you can get
hard vine
xD
fresh igloo
once you have all 5 maybe try to optimize
fresh igloo
sim it is always good
hard vine
ty
molten mural
I've gotten the Voice of the silent star in HC ilvl 444.. However i've tried checking its uptime after dungeons. it seems to only to proc like 4 times during a whole dungeon and has an uptime of 40sec total (1%ish)... Is this really how its intended and is it worth losing 1200ish stamina?
toxic pewter
dang that sounds awful
molten mural
Indeed. But im thinking it must be bugged or something. Otherwise its a worthless item D:
toxic pewter
ngl I wanted it but that uptime seems pretty worthless
lean stream
does anyone have a decent list of best gear I should be shooting for in M+? i can use bloodmallet/sims for trinkets etc, but that only shows offensive value iirc..... kinda clueless for which embellishments, trinkets, which offpiece to not use tier, etc
(i don't raid at all atm, except lfr)
tender phoenix
what would be the best 4 tier set pieces to have? as a non mythic raider that is
fresh igloo
our defense comes from haste and good play.
atomic inlet
hey guys so im runing some low m content and want pure dps as a tank
is mastery better or cirtical strike? i dont think versa is any good for thatno?
lean stream
@fresh igloo ok yea i'm trying to either have pieces with haste/vers or haste/crit, but I just returned to wow so I'm taking overall Illvl upgrades atm and my haste has suffered a bit. Which 2 shadowflames? (meaning, crafted with embellishments afaik.) The lariat and the belt?
fresh igloo
what would be the best 4 tier set pieces to have? as a non mythic raider that is
whatever you have at first. eventually maybe swap out chest for a crit/haste non-tier piece once you have 4 set in the other slots
fresh igloo
<@155164535869800449> ok yea i'm trying to either have pieces with haste/vers or...
shadowflame armor patch is an embellishment
so you'd add it to primal molten greatbelt, wrists, boots, shield, etc.
atomic inlet
hey guys so im runing some low m content and want pure dps as a tank
is mastery ...
anyone knows?
fresh igloo
hey guys so im runing some low m content and want pure dps as a tank
is mastery ...
crit haste
like I said just before you asked lol
ilvl upgrades are the most important thing, especially on shield
tender phoenix
whatever you have at first. eventually maybe swap out chest for a crit/haste non...
got the 4set minus the shoulders just was thinking if i wanna get max haste is to get rid of the set legs
fresh igloo
lean towards crit haste, but a little of everything is good
fresh igloo
got the 4set minus the shoulders just was thinking if i wanna get max haste is t...
set legs have a nice crit budget tho
atomic inlet
crit haste
ow ok but cirit more or haste more?
tender phoenix
set legs have a nice crit budget tho
think im focus to much on maxing haste and not geting a nice amount of stats ty
fresh igloo
crit is good for damage output
haste is good for rotation
(which means both offense and defense)
atomic inlet
dont care about defenc since its low 🙂
atomic inlet
ok then thx
fresh igloo
examples
sick sentinel
FOTM re-roller MADGE that warrior isn't as good as in s1
thats what that tier list looks like to me
toxic pewter
It’s really ridiculous
sick sentinel
perhaps he is angry because there is no good reflects in s2, (i haven't looked it up yet)
toxic pewter
There are though
toxic pewter
That’s subcreation website
sick sentinel
well look right
toxic pewter
Most popular website all the people look at
sick sentinel
hes clearly mad about something to do with warriors and paladi ns
so, its our job in a sense to find out why
fresh igloo
tier lists are actually cancer and toxic bullshit.
toxic pewter
It’s based on popularity and data of who’s playing what tanks etc
But the community sees that and just adds to stigma to inv certain specs
fresh igloo
max key run by a prot pally is +25
max key by prot warrior is +24
CLEARLY that's an S vs F difference
🙄
crude notch
Their tier lists aren't based on what highest key a tank can do,
toxic pewter
Yah it’s basically popularity list but still gives people pretty bad impressions. It’s like fake news
crude notch
what if i told you, it's always been like that and you only care now because PWar is F
toxic pewter
I’ve always been against it
toxic pewter
Well I’m not living on a deserted island alone
fresh igloo
how dare we have a conversation
crude notch
It's like people that complain about a content creator but are in their comments all day erryday
toxic pewter
I like to get a feel for what the community at large is discussing
toxic pewter
🤔
crude notch
giving them clicks. shame shame
crude notch
I do find it funny that the people that talk about tier lists the most are people that dislike them.
pallid quiver
F tier on Subcreation, actually still good
Just the place I want to be
would be nice to be closer to pink damage tho
restive fulcrum
any good answers for piercing shards in lair? dot ticked me to death twice in the +20 I did and wasn't sure how to deal with it.
daring marlin
F tier on Subcreation, actually still good
Just the place I want to be
~~would ...
more like purple and green
urban bane
"youre so against it but you keep checking it" is such bullshit logic
no to you moo, to jordan
Like think about it. If there's something you're highly critical of do you avoid news about that thing? absolutely not
"oh man you really hate murder? and yet you keep reading news about local murders dang says a lot about you"
"so funny that you hate homophobia yet you're always in homophobes replies criticizing them 🤔 "
tropic gorge
lol
pine jackal
Are these options correct for simming myself for M+? If not, does anyone know what they should be?
still crater
just used mdt
pine jackal
just used mdt
wth is mdt
pine jackal
that's fine for multi target
okayge thanks
pine jackal
fight length 5
okayge
still crater
Oh come on, this is just obnoxious at this point
This makes it even funnier. https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/T30_Raid.html
They looked at bars and "oh warrior isn't absorbing or healing as much it's obviously shit."
And then you get to the bottom, and they're also taking less damage than everything but a pally. I wonder why there's no absorb. Ip isn't the only thing we use 
still crater
wth is mdt
https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl-
If you have mythic dungeon tools downloaded, you can use or create a path for a specific dungeon, then use the data from those packs to get a more accurate read on your output, as opposed to doing dungeon slice or something
pine jackal
Yeah I have MDT the addon but didn't know his existed though
pine jackal
https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl-
If you have mythic dungeon tools downloaded, you can u...
I'll see what this is.
Thank you fren :3
still crater
np
idle summit
ty vm sir
rugged verge
piercing asbbuckler
waxen orbit
fresh igloo
does it sim better than a shadowflame armor patch?
twin bramble
anyone know why sometimes i feel naraxas is glitched when green poo doesnt slow me down from pull?
am i doing anythign wrong?
fresh igloo
the puddles fade away
twin bramble
(worm in neltharions lair?)
fresh igloo
it's probably timing out while you're in it
twin bramble
thx
dusky canopy
hmmmm
it is hero track with avoidance but man i have 900 haste on my current neck
Yeah im going to just run it its so good
toxic pewter
Just remembered can add sockets to neck easily though
I guess depends if you want to lose that much haste or na
warm plinth
More haste = better ItF though
dusky canopy
yeah that is true
unkempt hatch
Dumb question
Is there a good way to stop ripping aggro from my cotank?
Other than just stopping damage. Feels bad to just chill
nocturne spindle
have them taunt on CD
unkempt hatch
I don’t know if he is. But it caused some issues tonight and I’m told to “watch my threat” 🙈
toxic pewter
Whatever you do, do not ever lower your performance or let others try to take you down
mortal brook
Fix their rotation, shift taunt timings
toxic pewter
Quit guild if needed, I feel very strongly on this point
toxic pewter
That’s on the other tank then
mortal brook
- have a strong opener. establishing high threat value from the get go goes a long way. its not on the tooltip anymore but during the taunt debuff you get 3x threat gen.so a tankadin opens with a taunt, wings, send strong abilities/damage trinkets into the taunt fixate, like judgex2 how/sotr inside the taunt. then go into your usual rotation. establishes a good baseline threat value that means its harder to rip from then on cuz you have to overcome threat value. they should do the same on their taunt. hard hitting abilities in the taunt window. if i taunt, then send blessed hammer or conscecrate or whatever in that taunt window, im setting myself up for a bad time, right.
- if necessary, adjust taunt timings as the fight allows. Kazzara is a 1 stack taunt right. but you dont have to taunt immediately after one gets hit, they just have to taunt before the 2nd buster. if they taunt closer to the 2nd buster, you have less time to rip threat, and if they are watching timers and have taunt fixate active during the buster, theres zero way for you to take that hit, right.
- check and make sure theyre doin the button pressing good, and get feedback and targeted goals for their output by heading to the appropriate discord.
frozen rose
One tank typically out threats the other. Just have to be on point with taunts and paying attention to timers
twin bramble
Is the only m+ plate chest from neltharians lair? I don’t know if I can take farming it anymore 😂
toxic pewter
Does he have boss first or you usually
unkempt hatch
We’re very casual AF, so I’ll just chill and hope he catches up
mortal brook
theyre literally running m+ talents on single target fights
cancel that, shit m+ talents
unkempt hatch
Does he have boss first or you usually
He I think most of the time prefers to take the boss first
toxic pewter
Maybe you go first I guess then he will taunt off from there
unkempt hatch
The issues happen mid fight. I damage and the boss bar goes yellow. And I’m like okay cool
modern brook
I was checking logs and the damage difference was more than I imagined.
Having not checked the logs If you're rupping aggro that's a problem for your cotank to address
toxic pewter
Oh that’s just bad rotation/damage on his part then
unkempt hatch
Like I know im not playing great. Idk if it’s because he’s RL and focusing on other things
He usually doesn’t have that issue, didn’t have the issue during VoTI progresss
toxic pewter
Yeah I have left raids due to this before
I will not artificially lower my performance for anyone personally
Many disagree even with that
unkempt hatch
I see your perspective, and I can agree with it. I just don’t know if for me personally I could leave. We don’t take it seriously, sometimes we need to. But it’s very casual, the people that kind of annoy me are the ones who log just for raid and don’t do well.
mortal brook
I was checking logs and the damage difference was more than I imagined.
OKAY TANKADIN FEEDBACK
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zealot's paragon, focused enmity, hammer of the righteous. have them take those. ZP good in every situation always, Hotr/FE are single target choices. 'im the raid lead' isnt an excuse for making poor talent decisions.
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they need to understand that blessed hammer/hammer of the righteous is filler to reset better spells. if judge and avenger's shield arent on cooldown, their blessed hammer cast is out of order, hecking their output and economy. Avenger's shield is a good button when you're not running soaring shield on single target.
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put hammer of wrath on their bars, press when its shiny.
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take a trip to forbidden reach, get a freezing desirous prophetic annulet, gain 6k dps
simple basics, will double their output
unkempt hatch
Like this past week I went up over 10 ilvl between last Raid and this one
Just doing M+ etc
mortal brook
if theyre a person that you can have a reasonable discussion with, give them the targeted goals 👍
if they arent, enjoy the same issues throughout i suppose
toxic pewter
It’s the raid leader. Raid leaders are never wrong
In their mind Cody is sabotaging the raid
mortal brook
im not gonna assume on the situation but
unkempt hatch
I was just curious if I could find a solution that isn’t meh. I will give it some time
toxic pewter
Go get more gear
mortal brook
'hey i got some feedback on the issues we're having. here's the lists i got'
toxic pewter
And press buttons harder than ever
unkempt hatch
We’re pretty chill, so it’s not like he’s blaming me. He just occasionally reminds me to “watch my threat” haha and I’m like 🤷🏻♂️😂
I just do my rotation. I have to do damage to survive as vdh.
mortal brook
gettin gaslit, nty
unkempt hatch
Otherwise I’m on the floor lol
mortal brook
i cotank with a bdk. they're 20k below me. we have threat issues all the time. we just work around em instead, tbh
both performing well, just how it is
cuz we can communicate
unkempt hatch
Yeah. We had no issues last tier. I’m just thinking it’s us getting into the new Raid
Me swapping to vdh for group buff and trying to maximize and learn my rotation. Vdh does pump too
mortal brook
if you got a good relationship, then ^ the above lists are the good feedback for em. taking a second to check talents is basic stuff, tbh
you having to risk your survival by pressing fewer buttons isnt a sustainable
unkempt hatch
I don’t know how to approach that conversation, but I’ll give it some time and if I have to say something I’ll try and find a solution with him.
toxic pewter
U no wat u must do
unkempt hatch
Everyone has to have fun, and succeed together. (: he is a nice guy, and overall decent RL. He showed me the ropes of tanking, so im sure we can work it out (:
toxic pewter
Eventually student surpass the teacher
unkempt hatch
Idk, im a trash player.
mortal brook
' hey cotank bestie, i got some feedback about the issues we're having, want to get ahead of em. have a [list]'
unkempt hatch
' hey cotank bestie, i got some feedback about the issues we're having, want to ...
That’s not a bad idea
toxic pewter
Idk, im a trash player.
U r not. U r very power full
mortal brook
and then it wouldnt hurt to get a list of targeted goals for yourself. IDK vdh stuff
unkempt hatch
Maybe I’ll just bring it up tomorrow before Raid.
toxic pewter
Just remember.. time will come to press button. U can not hesitate. U no wat u must do
unkempt hatch
U r not. U r very power full
Nahhh im a scrub. I only became a tank because we had a surplus of Heals for DF, and we were short a tank.
unkempt hatch
Just remember.. time will come to press button. U can not hesitate. U no wat u m...
I just press the button if I need, and he has to taunt if needed 🙈
But I’ll try and line up my burst during my time with boss
toxic pewter
Best player is one always trying to improve
unkempt hatch
I’m far from my potential
Just slow incremental increases. I’ll get to my purple parse land
mortal brook
a couple targeted goals from small improvements 
toxic pewter
Not joking
mortal brook
maybe a nice mark of dargrul
unkempt hatch
But mastery 🙈😂
I want some damn tier
That’s when vdh pops off
3 pieces dropped tonight for me. They all went to the same warlock.
toxic pewter
One player got 3 pieces damn wtf lol
unkempt hatch
Our mage tonight got 4-5 drops
toxic pewter
Are you rolling for them
unkempt hatch
We just use the standard blizzard roll/need/greed etc
unkempt hatch
I won the anvil, that’s all I got tonight lol
unkempt hatch
Replaced a 408 boon from Dathea
toxic pewter
Never stop pumping ever
mortal brook
hell yeah, anvils big pump atm
unkempt hatch
No dragon fire bomb dispenser ):
toxic pewter
I go 100% at all times. If anyone tells@me to slow down I tell them f u directly
And challenge to duel
1v1
unkempt hatch
Hahaha I mean that’s fair
I willingly swapped to vdh from my warrior since we needed the buff, have mostly magic and already have a dps warrior
We had a MW monk, but he swapped to Evoker this week. So now we don’t have monk debuff
toxic pewter
Wtf going on here
toxic pewter
Even with heavy magic comp losing monk buff sucks ass
unkempt hatch
People just play what they want. We had a priest but he broke his arm ):
toxic pewter
That how u gotta be
Pressin button so hard arm break
That a true gamer right there
unkempt hatch
I can’t play both 🙈😂 I was open to warrior, monk, and vdh. And would fill what needed. So I swapped to vdh.
toxic pewter
Yeah damn that would be cool
unkempt hatch
I wanted a dragon tank.
toxic pewter
Missed opportunity
unkempt hatch
10000%
I just remembered I did the first boss in m+ spec 🙈😂
Looking at the wowanalyzer, I’ve gotten slightly better. I fixed one of my bad rotational habits. So just to work on the next 5. 🙈😂😂
cinder nova
What's the easiest way to preserve my UI while transferring realms/factions?
I assume snap your WTF
Can I easily just modify folder and filenames to match the new toon and it'll easily snap over?
urban portal
Yeah
fresh igloo
should work, yeah, just take a backup of everything
dusky canopy
holy shit zskarn is fun
south mesa
what is the general consensus as to how prot warrior is preforming against other tank atm?
in need of a buff or tier lists massively blown out by FOTM rerolls?
fresh igloo
tier lists massively blown out by FOTM rerolls
they always are
static aspen
Thus week pala S, none a+b, rest lower.
And prot is here, right around F
What time to be alive
earnest canyon
Subcreation tierlist is based on participation, not performance
It’s a really useless site
south mesa
for M+ yes, not for raid
static aspen
Yeah, people play best class. Whats your point?
south mesa
i believe the raid tier list is based on average dps
earnest canyon
Yeah, people play best class. Whats your point?
That doesn’t make warrior F tier
static aspen
Indeed it does, when you get declined to 99% groups.
Id take prot pala over warrior anyday
fast knot
On that logic I'd take the prot warrior assuming similar IO
I'm gambling on the ppal being a boosted idiot
pwar probably knows what's going on 🤔
south mesa
had absolutely no issue with getting 2700+ io as prot warrior and nothing seems to punishing im just more curious about what numbers other tanks can pull in keys and raid atm
fast knot
Plus you know, free damage from refelct
south mesa
Plus you know, free damage from refelct
when they let you utilize it 
fast knot
Boss mechanics can't be stopped by meager dps 🙂
fast knot
Exactly, reflecting Deluge instead of taking it to the face for like 1.3m every cycle is badass
Especially when two dps die so you get to run back three times
south mesa
1,3 - what was like that a 22 Tyran or something
fast knot
17?
earnest canyon
1,3 - what was like that a 22 Tyran or something
It was 2mil per reflect in my 21 yesterday
Looking forward to tyran 
earnest canyon
Huh, that’s low, lemme log in to check mine
fast knot
I've been unsuccessfully running Neltharus so my log is filled with bullshit 
south mesa
this has gone off on a mad tangent lmao
thick rivet
Does prot warrior take forgestorm or the haste vers weapon?
earnest canyon
You reflected the wrong cast
earnest canyon
ye
earnest canyon
much more dam to reflect the channel
earnest canyon
im still a pepega on warrior, cant play well enough yet
and dont have 4p
so about 60-70 I think
south mesa
i see
im getting 80-95k
this week
dependant on dungeon ofcourse
just want to know how it compares to BM/Prot paladin, considering a reroll
earnest canyon
im getting 80-95k
Just did 95 on bear in BH, never managed to get even close on warrior yet
But there is hope 
covert topaz
if I hit over the haste cap is it best to swap out enchants to crit or verse or just keep throwing it into haste
jagged pier
U have over 7100 haste unbuffed?
earnest canyon
south mesa
my guys 460 Ilevel
covert topaz
ive got 33% unbuffed
but its saying im hitting the diminishing return bit and losing stat
jagged pier
We dont care about the first diminshing returns first stage
covert topaz
okay thanks i should have phrased that better
covert topaz
yeah someone said ITF doesnt count towards DR?
glass iron
Does anyone use demo shout for defensive , I find even in 20/21 this week im just sending it on CD for dmg , thoughts ?
toxic pewter
Nice
glass iron
Lmao gz
toxic pewter
A shadow priest won my beacon when it dropped. I convinced him to give it to me though
Love my beacon
Yeah it was a pug so I was really appreciative
limpid anchor
The beacon is one of the worst trinkets for shadow kek
toxic pewter
Yah it’s my favorite trinket I’ve ever used personally
I just find it really fun and finding best times to launch it
Obviously on cd and all
toxic pewter
The beacon is one of the worst trinkets for shadow kek
Yeah I rolled an 82. He rolled a 95
limpid anchor
Idk I hate it in m+
toxic pewter
Why cuz you can’t block etc
limpid anchor
Yea, and cast time is so long
toxic pewter
Yeah it can get dicey sometimes using it but it’s definitely worth it
limpid anchor
Which also sucked in big pulls
Just want to get neltharions call, but I’m so far behind in loot prio
toxic pewter
Beacon all the way
charred ivy
did u guys replace onyx already btw?
warm plinth
when it gets outsimmed
charred ivy
will it ever? xD it sims so high ;o
urban portal
eventually]
jagged pier
in ST u wont ever replace it
jagged pier
i mean lines up with avatar alot anyway
prisma crane
also that
tawdry dirge
Cheers
prisma crane
i accidentally instantly clear it pretty often
tawdry dirge
So basicly a no care affix
prisma crane
yup
tawdry dirge
💪
prisma crane
just be mindful of frontals if you move around to get out of it
tawdry dirge
Yeah thanks buddy i will
uncut juniper
Is there a decent T30 Set Weakaura? Would love to keep an eye on the Earthen Tenacity Buff (Spell ID 410218) but i dont know how to get it working :x
dusty basin
Is there a decent T30 Set Weakaura? Would love to keep an eye on the Earthen Ten...
I mean if you already know the spell ID just build one yourself 😄 you can just use the pre builts and paste the spell id
I am not aware of any wa for this yet unfortunately
uncut juniper
okay i made a simple one real quick: https://wago.io/--1Z7-YA1
proven spear
what would you craft? belt? or something else with shadowflame?
limpid anchor
Shield
limpid anchor
Yea
proven spear
wich stats would you prefer? crit haste?
crude notch
KRITISCHE TREFFERCHANCE AND TEMPO
proven spear
alright!
warm plinth
Jordan I got KSM today 
crude notch
i'm so proud of you
warm plinth
4pc gamer now
opal flame
well this is great, got forgestorm on +14 breakfast run on champion track
next I'm going 18, no change it will drop there
rose sphinx
proper roost
am I dogshit or does #3 pack on Brackenhide hurt like hell? i have to wall and LS for the first pull with lust so it's kinda weirdge
LS is up for 3 but wall is only up like halfway through
er, picture didn't attach
stone grove
Is tanknotes.com dead?
crude notch
Sessa is busy raising a child so M+ is unlikely to be done this eason, but Pantheon does plan on doing the raid stuff soon*
stone grove
Ahh ok. No worries. Gotta take care of those kiddos!
clever arch
Hello, i read the FAQ and it says there is no "haste" to aim for. I wonder what we need to get a 100% ShB uptime? currently i play with "Into the Fray" instead of "Heavy Repercussions" and if i chainpull/ go fast from pack to pack in longer fights i end up with less than 100% uptime, even with shieldcharge (Champions Bulwark) and Laststand (Bolster) ShB. i mean its only a short window where i cannot keep it up but its still there and i have to keep an eye on it and maybe jump out of the pack for 1-2 seconds right now. feels weird.
warm plinth
Do you have 2pc of the new tier?
clever arch
4p
warm plinth
Uhhh, can you post your build?
clever arch
ofc 1s
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vivid abyss
is this boi bis if it would be 447 ??
vivid abyss
i am about to craft 447 wep for spark and wondering if i should buy well fed shit
warm plinth
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Yeah idk. You have some weird talent choices but nothing that should give you trouble with that. I am guessing it's a more rotational issue. Maybe not shield slamming enough or something.
vivid abyss
but if that wep is so good even at 441 i might not craft a wep then
warm plinth
Yeah we don't recommend you craft a weapon
crude notch
live your best life king, flush the gold down the toilet
vivid abyss
gold isnt problem 😄 well it might be soon if i decide to buy d4 with wow tokens, but losing spark is huge if u waste it 😄
clever arch
Yeah idk. You have some weird talent choices but nothing that should give you t...
yeah, just tested it again on dummy i struggle to keep 100% uptime after ~ 1:15-1:30.
I just wonder if "Heavy Repercussions" instead of "Into the Fray" would help me but not sure since into the fray would also give me a lot of haste which has impact on cd and stuff
vivid abyss
and its haste + crit for raid dmg and then haste + vers for high m+?
warm plinth
Heavy Repercussions is giga overkill if you already have bolster.
warm plinth
and its haste + crit for raid dmg and then haste + vers for high m+?
It's haste/crit for m+ and for raid DPS you just sim.
clever arch
i got 25% haste baseline with into the fray i got 35
warm plinth
Are you making sure to use LS on CD and not use Shield Block during it?
clever arch
Are you making sure to use LS on CD and not use Shield Block during it?
that could be it, Why cant i use shieldblock during it?
warm plinth
Because it's redundant
clever arch
thought the duration just increases/stacks up
warm plinth
Bolster gives you Shield Block for the duration of Last Stand
clever arch
o man i see the problem now my weak aura tracks LS as it was shieldblock, and thats why i thought i can stack it. Thank you this will be it
thanks!
amber siren
LS block extends past the 24 second cap iirc
proper roost
yes it works entirely like normal shield block
granite pond
yeah you definitely still want to use it during to not sit on 2 charges. just don't..spam it? i guess? you shouldn't have problems always having it up
warm plinth
Yeah the concern would be if he's over using his charges when he doesn't need to and then not having it when he moves on to the next pack, or wasting uptime when he's not active on a boss, etc.
amber siren
Ah yeah that makes sense
warm plinth
Because even though you can still have 100% uptime, it's definitely not as idiotproof as HR is
strong forum
Only 99% idiotproof
warm plinth
Right 😉
crude notch
Only a Fr*nch person could mess it up
granite pond
sacré block
fringe pilot
When we have 4/4, do we change anything in our talents to get Bolster?
proud patrol
If i go Forgestorm for M+, is losing the main stat a big deal from a defensive pov?
fleet parcel
Hey guys which shield is better for a first craft - Shadowed Impact Buckler or a Primal Molten defender with shadowflame armor patch?
hushed harbor
Hey guys which shield is better for a first craft - Shadowed Impact Buckler or a...
I believe the consensus is that SIB is crapola
hushed harbor
When we have 4/4, do we change anything in our talents to get Bolster?
You change at 2pc. Builds are in the pins.
lusty coyote
glass iron
can confirm fyi I had one upgraded 2hder and 1upraded 1hder unlocked 5/5 hero and that made shield free for some reason
only shield i had all season
sacred sentinel
what do we need to craft after 447 shield ?
jagged pier
If i go Forgestorm for M+, is losing the main stat a big deal from a defensive p...
No
uneven mason
what do we need to craft after 447 shield ?
a non tier slot that can take another shadowflame patch, or a FFB
sacred sentinel
a non tier slot that can take another shadowflame patch, or a FFB
noted thank you
left basalt
Thoughts on when swapping to tier 30 losing spell lock but equipping talisman of the cragshaper in its place?
Losing around 2k dps but having an extra 60 second SW seems pretty decent?
winter marlin
fresh warrior here, main account got banned false flag so i lost everything but this one warrior on a second account. not really sure what my plans were with him except to get him to snuff so i could hit my guild raids this next week tues & thurs since this happened wednesday
anyway i'm blowing ass as dps any spec with him, managed to get him from like 375 to 410 rn. i think i'm just gonna relegate him to my main tank then roll a healer, kinda how she goes this season. is crafting a 437 shield to replace a 379 shield out of the gate a pretty decent call?
winter marlin
bet
winter marlin
haste / crit or vers for probably mostly m+
i was gonna get the patch
probably what you're referring to
i mean primal molten w/patch embel
winter marlin
aight then crit or vers for secondary?
sounds like crit from the little bit of lurking i've done
m+ mostly, might step in for a fight or two on guild raids, otherwise will just pug raids so dgaf
uneven mason
critttttt
tropic gorge
alright time to try nel a couple more times for the weapon
strong forum
Thoughts on when swapping to tier 30 losing spell lock but equipping talisman o...
In most keys you don't need Spellblock to begin with
tropic gorge
i did 3 runs across various levels last night, only got gold 😦
winter marlin
appreciate you bro, been a rough week ngl i think this'll make the best of it for now @uneven mason
show the guild i'm really about it..after losing 6 70s and like 2m fml
you guys got any builds offhand prolly from back a little ways that don't include any tier?
tired girder
Team, simply question for you. Can I send primordial stones from one toon to another by email?
winter marlin
i'm worried these builds i'm pulling are expecting at least 2t1 or something & causing problems
no
not even the upgrade stone for them
learned that the hard way lol
tropic gorge
i need more good drops
tired girder
So I need to farm them on the alts always?
tropic gorge
someone bribe rng for me plz
winter marlin
unfortunately so. i'm pretty lazy and its easier to rationalize it's not that big of a difference with 424 rings easily available
but if you're true to yourself yeah you really should
tired girder
Ohhhh ty
strong forum
i'm worried these builds i'm pulling are expecting at least 2t1 or something & c...
Swap from into the fray to heavy repercussions, and from bolster to tough as nails
Then you got the "tierless" build
winter marlin
off of https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUkRRARpFRRBBNVUVEVEUFVYVVQCBE
?
strong forum
Yup
winter marlin
beautiful, thank you thank you thank you
chrome falcon
anyone got a weakaura kicking about for the 4pc? something that tracks LS and then the new buff
obviously takes 2 seconds to make myself but just in case someone else already has one i'm ✨ lazy ✨
strong forum
I made a buff tracker and an extra condition for shield slam
My shieldslam WA turns green when the 4pc buff is active
But I might change that to smth else
median tulip
Forgestorm is BiS, right?
strong forum
yes
median tulip
Cool, I can tick that off then
tame jasper
I had some kind of "bad luck" about that, upgraded HoI weapon to 441 last week and got forgestorm in vault after it 😮
granite pond
I’ll take that bad luck any day of the week
tame jasper
yeah I'm not complaining
one item upgrade a week later, but not that important
will most prob craft belt as 2nd embellishment, which leaves me with cloak, 2nd trinket, neck and 2 rings to upgrade (and I can upgrade one item this week still)
median tulip
I had some kind of "bad luck" about that, upgraded HoI weapon to 441 last week a...
Congrats on your Single-Minded Fury offspec I guess?
tame jasper
Congrats on your Single-Minded Fury offspec I guess?
🙈
fluid beacon
Guys, we have to talk again
tame jasper
Does anyone knows what todays hotfix in BH was about "Brackenhide Gnolls no longer trigger Mythic Keystone affix effects on death." sounds like some of the gnolls (which, they are all gnolls?!?) don't trigger bolstering anymore? When I run it today I noticed no difference
fluid beacon
IDK how it's possible for Blizz to make Prot warr fucking garbage in the past expansion compared to some of the big dogs.... make us high DPS towards the end but still hard to play optimally to make us gods in 10.0
and now back down to fucking herpa derp.
its obviously playable but man
fluid beacon
i haven't felt this much in danger in keys in a bit
glad apex
I mean you weren't ever in danger last season
tame jasper
now we wait until they fix the bug (at least I call it a bug) that oaks spawn lasher which give count
fluid beacon
I mean you weren't ever in danger last season
overcorrections suck balls
getting absolutely demolished within a few seconds is not something i felt as a prot warrior in a long time
im not sure what exactly changed
but our previous weaknesses like dots/bleed etc feel a LOT worse now
and magic damage intake as well. i cycle through all my defensives way more than i ever did
I think blizzard will probably change something about us soon. I am feeling a damage buff coming but I don't think we need that as much as we need a bit of a survivability boost.
proper roost
welcome to wow, the class balance whine excuses are in the jar to your left
fluid beacon
hey, ive been a prot warr since legion. ive gone through all the changes. this just feels super ass. probably because its so sudden
glad apex
I feel fine in keys idk
fluid beacon
gradually fucking us is not as painful. this is sticking it in dry
fluid beacon
I feel fine in keys idk
im fine in most instances. but our weaknesses feel amplified right now
or maybe i roll with shitty healers idk.
mortal brook
Having to press and cycle your defensives is arguably better balancing than getting to ignore them, tbh
tame jasper
big bolstered mobs in neltharus hurt a bit, but well 😄
fluid beacon
Having to press and cycle your defensives is arguably better balancing than gett...
there is an argument for that sure
maybe im a whiny cunt
but it something feels off
glad apex
I think you cracked it, no offense
proper roost
mfw "i have to use my cds" is a complaint
fluid beacon
too spoiled pulling entire dungeons and leling
proper roost
mans wants to tank a whole 20 without using defensives
glad apex
Like we chillin
fluid beacon
mans wants to tank a whole 20 without using defensives
going to extremes in discussions is always the right way to communicate. ya bro, i wanna just faceroll it all baby
-_-
proper roost
that's what you explicitly spelled out, yes
glad apex
Ye fam you literally said thT
fluid beacon
the class is severely underrepresented right now for a reason. the class doesnt feel good right now
glad apex
too spoiled pulling entire dungeons and leling
Right here
fluid beacon
something is off
fluid beacon
but they arent though
glad apex
Also fury is playable in keys now
fluid beacon
they arent even the most represented or doing the most damage with most survivability
other tanks are rising in popularity
proper roost
tank role, the easiest one to reroll with, has all the players reroll to the bis tank?? wow this has literally never happened every phase ever
fluid beacon
Also fury is playable in keys now
it was in 10.0 as well
or in shadowlands
fury/arms have been good in keys for 2 expansions now. maybe not MDI good but pretty damn good
fluid beacon
i played fury for the first time last night in months. spec feels strange without the old 4 set. ill have to get used to it
but im glad fury has a place now in raids too
uneven mason
Are you feeling them the same place your hot takes are coming from?
fluid beacon
oh i always do dude, you dont?
fluid beacon
Rashok to 6%, fury warriors in top 3
how are you feeling on Rashok?
ill probably be on it next week at some point. kinda curious about that fight
looks super fun
glad apex
It's shit positionally, and lava waves suck
But v fun to just blast 24/7
Objectively an amazing encounter
fluid beacon
I hear ya. It looks technically very simple
The DPS check is very high ya?
I think he has an enrage no? Are you guys close to hitting it?
winter marlin
it already feels pretty tightly tuned on normal / heroic
god what else can you do to it on mythic lol
still carbon
What is the best manufactured shield for the protection of warriors? I can hardly decide what to produce at the moment. Thank you in advance for your help
granite pond
primal molten defender + patch
soft plume
any tips for oceanic breath?
tame jasper
spell reflect
soft plume
ill take that as a no
granite pond
Or range it
soft plume
i can just leap from it?
granite pond
yeah
soft plume
kk
jagged pier
Press your S key
chrome falcon
oh you can put the patch on shield??? TIL
molten mural
I just have issues with the uptime. it feels way to low to be worth losing the stamina.
vital arch
Heart of thunder is my new best friend
am I wrong?
Not sure is swapping str for verse is giving me as much value but it’s out dpsing my grapple by a large portion
frigid urchin
hey guys, quick question, should I go for 4piece of the old set our 2p old & 2p new?
tame jasper
hey guys, quick question, should I go for 4piece of the old set our 2p old & 2p ...
In general the new set has higher ilvl
frigid urchin
yup, I have it on 437
proud patrol
can i mitigate the chain thing in neltharus with spell block? its fire damage so im just assuming shield wall is the only thing that would help but i was told i should spell block?
tame jasper
spell reflect is always 20% magical damage reduce
even if you cant reflect or deflect a spell
proud patrol
yea but im thinking whether i can do something against the fire damage that is coming in while pulling the chain through the adds in neltharus
viral elk
What necks are most people going for? just a craft or something?
tame jasper
What necks are most people going for? just a craft or something?
bromach
strong forum
hey guys, quick question, should I go for 4piece of the old set our 2p old & 2p ...
T30 4pc is stronger than 2pc&2pc
tawny briar
2pc 2pc is better than OLD 4set tho ya? I can never remeber which tier number we are on at this pont
woeful mist
Question, am I the only one that have problems keeping aggro in high keys?
grand geode
Question, am I the only one that have problems keeping aggro in high keys?
At the start of pulls I do sometimes
tawny briar
I try to save an AOE CD for start of pulls for that reason
vocal nimbus
if you chain pull without CDs you will have problems sometimes
woeful mist
Got the problem that I either have to use a dps cd to keep aggro and just hope the healer keeps me up for the gcd or get my mitigation/def cd and have the ele shaman over aggro me?
vocal nimbus
i use the aoe shout when i chain pulls without big things
brittle owl
use more 
vocal nimbus
defensive cds aint on the gcd
woeful mist
defensive cds aint on the gcd
You're right
Still got the problem of the aggro tho and not sure if there is a way to fix it
chrome falcon
Got the problem that I either have to use a dps cd to keep aggro and just hope t...
i don't understand what you mean by "use a dps cd to keep aggro"
your problem is that you have to press buttons to keep threat? i'm confused sorry i don't mean to sound sarcastic
tawny briar
Roar, shield charge, dps trinket
vocal nimbus
shield charge, thunder roar or devastator i guess
chrome falcon
but what are you doing with your GCDs if you're not doing damage
woeful mist
i don't understand what you mean by "use a dps cd to keep aggro"
Thunderous roar
tawny briar
usually start of pull is a "snap" aggro issue
once you have threat, i fyou are doing your rotation well you won't lose it
vocal nimbus
a roar or a shield charge should be enough threat to forget about aggro
strong forum
2pc 2pc is better than OLD 4set tho ya? I can never remeber which tier number we...
No
vocal nimbus
if you charge into a pull without big damage you can always use the AoE taunt
which is there for a reason
woeful mist
once you have threat, i fyou are doing your rotation well you won't lose it
Shield charge is not enough to hold the aggro from our ele shaman in dungeons, but maybe that's an ilvl issue since his 437 and i'm 425
strong forum
Dmg = threat
Just 1 CD isn't enough to keep threat
Unless it's dragon roar
That one is our strongest offensive button in large pulls
woeful mist
So i should try to rotate the aoe taunt and roar?
strong forum
I've never felt the need to specifically rotate anything
tawny briar
i'm still rocking whetstone which helps too
strong forum
I just aoe taunt when I know I don't have CDs up and others can blast
But no specific "order"
tame jasper
So i should try to rotate the aoe taunt and roar?
i keep aoe for interrupt for dangerous situations, I rarely use it for getting aggro
chrome falcon
you should naturally have enough threat if you're playing well
graceful kite
should I pick legs or chest tier piece from the season master thing?
chrome falcon
because playing well = doing good damage
chrome falcon
should I pick legs or chest tier piece from the season master thing?
you wait
until you have 3 pieces
tawny briar
I think you pick whichever gets you to 4
graceful kite
well I have 1 piece from vault and I want a second
tawny briar
better to wait. you'll feel so bad if you get legs in vault after making legs
woeful mist
Okey thanks for the help
tame jasper
and then get 4pc with the omni token from KSM
graceful kite
I'm not going to wait because I'm really contemplating dropping rn
strong forum
Chest has the better stats
strong forum
But technically gloves shoulders and helmet have the best stats
I was seriously considering getting gloves over chest from my omni token cuz sexy haste on gloves and I need it badly
But chest is just more stats
graceful kite
I have 41 with itf
tame jasper
also took gloves over shoulder vor me
tame jasper
When can i drop T29 Tier piece??
You can drop 4pc once you have 2 items which are 15+ilvl upgrade each or to get new T30 2pc
You can drop 2pc once you have T30 2pc/4pc and/or if you sim higher without it
lofty widget
am i upgrading anvil or grapnel first for m+?
granite pond
...3pc?
whole crest
Yeah, that awkward middle ground between 2pc and 4pc
thin silo
... whenever you get an upgrade?
whole crest
Well yeah, but I wanted Nom to tell me
winter marlin
that aggro conversation up there was interesting to me cause i've only tanked a few so far as war but definitely a problem. i chalk it up to my dumpiness rn but i couldn't imagine tanking for some of the dps in my guild in a m+
molten mural
I have 441 shoulders tier30 and a 437 chest. but i currently have 2p 421 & 415. Should i just drop tier29?
oblique kayak
so best tanky trinket to farm is Talisman of the Cragshaper?
it’s a hot defence trinket - multiple offense trinkets out there
proud patrol
is anybody playing the chains in neltharus and has any tips? i feel like its always a gamble whether i live or die instantly on anything 16 upwards
i realise i dont have to do it on a 16/17, but its also a lot of fun if it works 😄
odd nimbus
it’s a hot defence trinket - multiple offense trinkets out there
i dont understand sorry elaborate please
oblique kayak
i dont understand sorry elaborate please
odd nimbus
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/1106568753426...
no i read that,i meant the hot defence part what did you mean by hot?
green ledge
.>
tired girder
The prove that people don't think by itselfs it this meta thing.
People don't play what they like, Instead of meta told them to play lol
tame jasper
Is there a decent T30 Set Weakaura? Would love to keep an eye on the Earthen Ten...
this
@chrome falcon
chrome falcon
ty
woven dove
A question, is forgestorm any good for prot?
modern brook
Forgesword owns
vital arch
Forgestorm bis farm it
woven dove
Ive never seen it on any tier list but okay good 👍
final mist
Ive never seen it on any tier list but okay good 👍
Tier lists for tanks are usually bad + made entirely defensively in mind (which is also bad)
See this for embellishments + items you'd like to pursue
lime urchin
does intervene work on first boss brackenhide? on the chase?
limpid anchor
No
lime urchin
boring
sand hound
how good is drogbar rocks
strong forum
is anybody playing the chains in neltharus and has any tips? i feel like its alw...
Properly min-maxing them can be a gigantic time gain cuz there are like 10 chains in the dungeon, but it can kill you or your group if people don't move out
toxic pewter
wat do the chains do
strong forum
Big damgur that scales with keylevel
limpid anchor
Kill you and your melees
strong forum
On a +19 I think a chain proc does like 600k per target (don't quote me on that)
toxic pewter
as tank it wont really be good idea to grab i guess?
slender terrace
is the campaign worth doing for catchup gear for a ~420ish alt?
limpid anchor
Not really I think, it’s a 2? Second cast to pick it up
strong forum
10.1 Campaign is good for flightstones and rep
10.0.7 campaign you do for annulet
toxic pewter
i see the chains all over, have yet to see anyone grab 1
i would happily kite trash into them
limpid anchor
But on a 20 I didn’t survive the blast, only time we did it in a good way was with a rogue who used faint
For the 40% reduction
strong forum
I think you can kinda outplay the chain
But I've yet to use one myself
Requires coordination but once that's done that key can be the next NW
(which is bad imo)
limpid anchor
I think I used it wrong tbh, thinking about the first boss, you prob want to pull the mobs close the the chain, chain guy goes around the mobs and then drags it through it
And doesn’t walk directly into the pack
But haven’t tried it
limpid anchor
Yea but tank
At least it felt way higher than 600k when I got hit, unless it ignores certain defs, like stance
sick sentinel
Is there ever a point when you stop stacking haste over verse
strong forum
At ~7100 haste
sick sentinel
I dunno what mine is but im at like 40% haste
strong forum
Yeah with buffs
sick sentinel
Yes
strong forum
That 7100 is 40% without buffs
strong forum
Dunno I don't venture there unless for memes
proud patrol
Thanks for your response about chains 🙂 with def stance, spell reflect and shield wall, if felt doable but still close
and i obviously killed the ret pala
but thats just collateral damage
strong forum
pallid quiver
You did the right thing, killing a pink class
jagged pier
Crit
atomic inlet
haste and ?
Vers or corit
potent gulch
Buff when?
pallid quiver
When the balancing team gets drunk enough to think brown is pink
young rampart
hello guys do you know if there is faster way to remove stunning barrel on 2nd boss on freehold?
limpid anchor
Bop
limpid anchor
Be a pally
sick sentinel
Just did a 16 uld @431 ilvl and man I felt squishy AF. I never had this problem in s1. I move away from frontal and still got spanked. Is that me?
My buddy is a prot pali and just stands in EVERYthing and his health just hardly moves.
limpid anchor
Did you try to shield block
strong forum
Did you by chance do neltharus
soft flower
basilisk bleeds hurt a ton there
strong forum
Oh nvm uld
ruby musk
Just did a 16 uld @431 ilvl and man I felt squishy AF. I never had this problem...
The basilisks are no joke. Same with the golems.
limpid anchor
Yea you avoid the bleeds
strong forum
Yeah uld uh is all about debuff and kick management
Stopping the hail stones, being ready for the thunderclap golems
sick sentinel
Did you try to shield block
Lol yes up 100% lol
pine matrix
@sick sentinel same.. and all cds pop.. its like they want you to try harder 😦
strong forum
Kicking chain lightning, kicking spiked carapace
ruby musk
I've been LoSing some of the mechanics by using the pillars in the area.
fresh igloo
It's fort week. Kicks and stops are the answer to almost everything basically
ruby musk
It helps.
sick sentinel
Chomp will make you cry. And mdt said melee. But that’s not the case.
fresh igloo
The golem claps and the haste debuffs are good to LOS yeah
strong forum
The last 5 mobs with the haste debuff made up 7.8% of all dmg taken in the key
In our 18
Very balanced mobs
limpid anchor
You skip them anyway
pine matrix
And its not just Uld, the dragon pulls on Halls after the frog
fresh igloo
And its not just Uld, the dragon pulls on Halls after the frog
Aggressively back step the breath
pine matrix
the last pull before 3rd boss all CDs pop blazing on pull..
strong forum
Dragon you outrange, frost chill has been nerfed now
fresh igloo
It's a tracking cone but short range
ruby musk
I've seen people mention Bromach's for neck, but everytime I sim Ionized Choker, it comes up better and it has haste/vers instead of haste/mastery. Is there something I'm missing?
fresh igloo
Just need to make sure you have room
Probably just more haste, or your vers is super low?
ruby musk
Probably low verse. Only at 14% unbuffed.
strong forum
I've seen people mention Bromach's for neck, but everytime I sim Ionized Choker,...
Simming necks is entirely down to your own gear, bromach is just the biggest haste neck in the game
14% vers is alot
Lol
fresh igloo
Haste is good. We like haste. More haste is better than less. Heh
strong forum
Actually I might have more now due to tier
ruby musk
True, haste is good. Isn't there diminishing returns on it after a % though?
strong forum
Not relevant enough
fresh igloo
Not achievable currently
ruby musk
Yeah, I'll just keep both then and upgrade them to 437.
strong forum
7100 is where you say "yeah I should hard stop getting haste"
toxic pewter
y ret pallys not freedoming my ass in key
they run talent that literally gives 2 freedoms
pine matrix
@fresh igloo i did it on a +16 423 ilvl and i got 20% vers 😦
tawny briar
i know, I ran with a pally who freedomed me every time. it was the best
strong forum
It's the same as priests running double PI, but only using it on himself
fresh igloo
<@155164535869800449> i did it on a +16 423 ilvl and i got 20% vers 😦
Play matters way more than stats. Just pick crit haste when you can and it's fine.
tender quartz
When does it matter being Saved to Normal ( asking for guild alt run ) I thought 10/20/30 People mattered for extra loot
If I'm the only one saved when would that mean "minus 1 item"? sorry offtopic
strong forum
If you're saved, you don't count towards the loot threshold
You might aswell not exist
tender quartz
and the threshold was 10/20/30?