protection

[modern brook]

#transmog im sure will take your gold

[toxic pewter]

yah true let me go there

[round pendant]

Still haven't decided if I want to play prot warrior ret paladin or prot paladin arms warrior

this season

🤔

[lusty grotto]

why not both

[daring marlin]

all of the above imo

[toxic pewter]

arms warr fun imo

[daring marlin]

[toxic pewter]

lol

[lusty grotto]

max is always right

[toxic pewter]

arms will always be more fun to me

[lusty grotto]

👍

same

[toxic pewter]

arms is the high iq, intelliwarr dps spec

[modern brook]

[lusty grotto]

i dont know what those words mean, but zug zugf

[toxic pewter]

its a word i just made up

intelliwarr

[lusty grotto]

right on

[toxic pewter]

that me

[chilly brook]

But who asked?

[toxic pewter]

has anyone here actually upgraded shield to 437

[lusty grotto]

theres a few

[toxic pewter]

considering doing it

[lusty grotto]

im deffo doing it tonight

[modern brook]

I'm holding literally everything for vault

[toxic pewter]

yeah true, should prob just be patient

[daring marlin]

hmmmm, yes

delay the gratification

[lusty grotto]

fuck the vault

im doing it asap

with aspects

[toxic pewter]

nice

[strong forum]

finally im a r1 gamer

|| on LFR ||

[lusty grotto]

lol

[cunning lodge]

frost enchant still the best?

[lilac jay]

are rank 3 embalishments better than rank 2 or only easier to craft?

[lusty grotto]

frost enchant? lol

wherever did you get that idea

[toxic pewter]

im top 10 in the world m+ season 2 according to warcraftlogs right now LOL

i dont even understand how that happens

[strong forum]

you did all 8 keys

gj youre now top 10

[toxic pewter]

MUAHAHAHAHA

i made it boys

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

somebody give this man SF, hes top 10!

[lusty grotto]

make sure you screenshot it

[toxic pewter]

doing it now

[lusty grotto]

use it as flex

[toxic pewter]

i m bad ass

[lusty grotto]

just make sure you copy paste that into a whisper as you get declined for 20s for a prot paladin lol

[toxic pewter]

lmao

good call

i would like to thank skyhold discord for never doubting me

many call me a troll, even myself sometime, but u all believed in me from the start

also i want to thank GOD

[dusky canopy]

[jagged pier]

yer nah

thats a yeet

[uneven mason]

But I've got more CE than you can count!!!1!2

[jagged pier]

brah I should be SF cause I have R1 in normal

i dont actually

still havent even raided

[strong forum]

the difficulty curve of this raid is similar to voti

1-8 are lamo?

sarketh is 20x harder than the rest of the raid

[uneven mason]

Neltharion is a blast

[strong forum]

didnt enjoy him very much

very annoying with pugs

also very boring

[daring marlin]

Do what I did

Reroll that shit

I got UR

[strong forum]

cuz nothing does anything and then if you dont stand in purple you just get 1shot or if you break walls you just bleed out

[uneven mason]

I guess it's the company I was in

[strong forum]

its a very 100-0 boss, same as sarketh

sarketh p1 and p2 might aswell not exist

[final mist]

[strong forum]

boss does nothing

and then p3 is just shotguns left and right

[daring marlin]

I'm surprised they haven't tuned NL yet

[strong forum]

they aint gonna tune any dungeon

until rwf is over

[uneven mason]

Literally vdh "too bad you don't have my health pool" - promptly gets obliterated
Me "You don't seem to have your health pool either"

[final mist]

It's so trash

[daring marlin]

that's a good point actually

[lusty grotto]

just reflect

[daring marlin]

DARN NOME STOP BEING BASED

[final mist]

We did not kill the snake

16

[ripe seal]

Do we have any pointers on which items to primarily focus on getting in the new raid?

[daring marlin]

WTF THE REFLECT LOL

[final mist]

Can't wait for people to bitch about how OP SR is

[strong forum]

beacon, anvil, ward is neat

[lusty grotto]

😄

[strong forum]

obv tier and just high ilvl shit

[ripe seal]

Yeah currently doing a quick clear of normal, any noteworthy items there?

Apart from tier

[final mist]

Tier, beacon, anvil, cloak

Etc

Same as you'd want from heroic and mythic

[toxic pewter]

Gonna get that 2h sword off nelth and tank wit It

[modern brook]

the legion + BFA dungeons actually have so much SR value its insane

[strong forum]

i wouldnt mind having the tmog option

[toxic pewter]

That sword looks badass tbh

[strong forum]

in NL its really only that on boss

[toxic pewter]

I want it a lot

[final mist]

It's also just insane survival

[uneven mason]

I can't wait for the scuffed reactions from the community

[modern brook]

"only" as if its not the only part of the dungeon thats hard

[final mist]

Because not only are you taking that nasty dot

[lusty grotto]

sunder and last boss as well

[final mist]

But you've also got other aoe from the boss

And the pelters

[ripe seal]

The cloak is the voice of the silent star i assume right?

[lusty grotto]

3 bosses from there Nome

have huge SR value

[final mist]

The other three people in my group were getting trucked

[strong forum]

rly?

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[strong forum]

huh

[lusty grotto]

sunder is tricky

cause you gotta kind of bet on the cd

but hits for 600k on 16

just about

[final mist]

We are betting men tho

[lusty grotto]

molten crash also on last boss, which is easy cause cast time is long

[dusky canopy]

NOM not my screenshot but check this out

[final mist]

If I can land a 0.07% lucksack in a gacha game, I can land sunder every time, easy

We take those

[lusty grotto]

first boss has nothing sadly but first boss is fucking easy if people can delete adds

[dusky canopy]

one of these dudes posted this yesterday

check that shit out

[modern brook]

lol

thats actually so silly

[final mist]

"Yes I hit SR to survive, how could you tell?"

[uneven mason]

Someone's going to post that in the paladin discord and when they start crying about it we're going to get Ion being like "warriors this is why we can't have nice things" followed by tbc Sr being reinstated

[dusky canopy]

palibros can suck it tbh

[late surge]

what do I craft for first spark

[dusky canopy]

they have plenty of cool shit

we can have our 1 thing

[modern brook]

paladins have a 45s cheat death

we can have 2.8mil reflects

[final mist]

Paladins complaining about niche utility is my favorite thing

[uneven mason]

Whatever you don't get from your first vault

[final mist]

Brother Freedom lets you ignore certain AoEs

But SR is the problem

[modern brook]

Bop also invalidates mechanics

[dusky canopy]

Literal immunity????

[modern brook]

and divine shield

[final mist]

Do you remember the big crystal walking guys in Vault who had the big circle AoE?

Freedom immunes that

[uneven mason]

Literally 5 paladins on daddy D prog letting half the raid ignore the intermission death mechanic

[dusky canopy]

yeah like i said they can cry us a river

they have plenty of cool shit

[final mist]

[uneven mason]

And yet insist they're severely underpowered

[sick sentinel]

prot pala so piss easy compared to warr

[uneven mason]

Well

[dusky canopy]

maybe the delusional palibro players think that not the good ones

LOL

[uneven mason]

Idk if I'd go that far

We're pretty smoothbrain

[dusky canopy]

so I disagree with that statement because wile yes protadin lives easier than we do its not necessarily easier to play

we just face smash keyboard all buttons on cd

pali is more involved than that

[uneven mason]

I think I'ma build a minimal CD talent set and see how smoothbrain I can get warrior

Then push key

Maybe even use defensive stance

[final mist]

Just play fury

That's the most smoothbrain

[uneven mason]

To see how the other side lives

[final mist]

Press all buttons on CD

[dusky canopy]

dude like 90% of your globals are SS revenge or ip off gcd

lmao

its very simple

[uneven mason]

As a tank I mean

I raid as furu

Until they get tired of watching our vdh get murdered through 1.2m hp

[daring marlin]

MF you sit in d stance 24/7

[uneven mason]

[dusky canopy]

SHOTS FIRED

[late surge]

which two embalishments do we play?

[sick sentinel]

I don't actually

[dusky canopy]

The bis simming ones

[late surge]

which are?

[uneven mason]

[sick sentinel]

I did as I started playing it like 4 weeks ago

[dusky canopy]

2x shadowflame or shadowflame/FFB

[uneven mason]

But probably belt and shadowflame

[late surge]

aren't there bis sims already done 16 months ago or smth like that?

[dusky canopy]

I wouldnt count on them letting us stack the shadowflame embelish im sure it was an oversight

i would do SF/FFB

[modern brook]

you could always double stack the armor embelishes

[dusky canopy]

oh yeah thats true

[modern brook]

i doubt the shadow flame one is supposed to be an exception

most classes are also already seeing better combos than 2x

[dusky canopy]

yeah thats a fair point nvm then on my end

[uneven mason]

There was tuning like 2 hours before patch went live so, no. But you know our stats vary, however if you're the type of lady that enjoys tier lists, shadowflame and ffb

[modern brook]

i wouldnt count on any explicit removal of it

[late surge]

many stats in these embalishments indeed

[uneven mason]

[lusty grotto]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gcXfMBLKNAVbrdQF/#fight=1&type=damage-taken&hostility=1&source=33&ability=198496 @strong forum

450k on a 14

[dusky canopy]

I broke the rules on crests

[uneven mason]

Private

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

err 15

fuck i cant remember levels

[uneven mason]

Need that xmog bro

[lusty grotto]

its public

now

[uneven mason]

Almost 1m

[lusty grotto]

yeah its tricky as fuck to land

but it was that way in legion too

[final mist]

Brother not to be the bearer of bad news but that's the wrong shadowflame embellish

[dusky canopy]

its only gold

[lusty grotto]

i tried a few bets in a 14 we actually timed and couldnt fish for any

just gotta watch bigwigs/dbm sunder cd and press it and let jesus take the wheel

[late surge]

@uneven mason whats ffb

[dusky canopy]

before i go dwarf

this what i got

[uneven mason]

Frostfire belt

[late surge]

ty

[uneven mason]

You spent all that gold on the shield and you're not even showing it off

[dusky canopy]

i mean its kinda bad

[uneven mason]

Appearance wise?

[dusky canopy]

oh ye its not my taste

but to each their own

[uneven mason]

Doesn't it look like the raid shield?

Matches dwarf heritage I guess

[dusky canopy]

That it does

[modern brook]

put a shirt on

[glacial skiff]

If I upgrade a 2h weapon to say 337 does that mean any 1h weapon or shield can also be upgraded to that without using crests?

[uneven mason]

Like zandalari just don't pull off skins very well

[uneven mason]

Pretty sure it tracks by class

1h 2h and shield

[dusky canopy]

yeah i believe its slot based

[lusty grotto]

its a good question

[uneven mason]

Infact I know shield and 2h don't overlap

[dusky canopy]

so like weapon slot upgraded will apply to all weapons

[uneven mason]

But not 100% on 1h vs 2h

[lusty grotto]

we will know soon enough

[uneven mason]

I'll let you know when I get a 2h I can take to 437

[daring marlin]

feet 🤢

[dusky canopy]

I KNOW

so bad right

[daring marlin]

It's the only negative

[lusty grotto]

hey dont kink shame

[daring marlin]

I love their model

[dusky canopy]

we'll be dwarf soon enough

[daring marlin]

but the fucking FEET

[lusty grotto]

smh my head

[dusky canopy]

nobody tryin to enjoy them yellow toenails

know what i mean

[daring marlin]

should make my pally a beard

fuck them debuffs

[charred moat]

is nelthar weapon bis?

[uneven mason]

Forgestorm

[charred moat]

yes

[dusky canopy]

POG*storm

[uneven mason]

Slapstorm

[charred moat]

For plus or raid?

[uneven mason]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

Yes

[charred moat]

lul dropped know first try after 2 hours of wipe xD

[lusty grotto]

okay

[uneven mason]

[lusty grotto]

grats

[charred moat]

thx for the info

❤️

[dusky canopy]

dont worry planning on getting my 441 next week from vault

[lusty grotto]

dont worry planning on never getting it on vault

sobs in strike twice

[uneven mason]

[toxic pewter]

what ilvl ring u guys think i can replace eranog ring

[uneven mason]

Sim

[dusky canopy]

600

[lusty grotto]

oh fuck i queued into stupid voti

[uneven mason]

If you have a 421

[lusty grotto]

how long do i have to wait to not get deserter?

[toxic pewter]

yeh 421

[uneven mason]

Kill the first

[lusty grotto]

im fucked 😦

i havent done lfr in so long lmao

[uneven mason]

It's 15- whatever you spent getting to first boss, or 30m

Literally solo lfr

[modern brook]

a boss needs to die to not get deserter but in dungeons theres a queue cd seperate from deserter that also needs to expire

for LFR IDK if that exists

[lusty grotto]

ok well ill know soon enough

[uneven mason]

Idk I've done LFR a whooping once all xpac

Because those runes were selling for almost 3k and I snagged like 11 of them

[vestal torrent]

forgestorm good?

[modern brook]

forgesword is goated

[vestal torrent]

good

[modern brook]

Bis at equal ilvl irrc

[vestal torrent]

🙂

[modern brook]

idr how it handles higher ilvl

sims remain an option for checking

[dull zodiac]

hows the tank trink

from first boss

[strong forum]

dogshit

[dull zodiac]

got it given to me

as fury

lul

[strong forum]

cuz its dogsit

[daring marlin]

LOL

[uneven mason]

[sick sentinel]

how long until first sporepods discussion

im assuming its still in the loot table

[daring marlin]

of course

[sick sentinel]

ya

[daring marlin]

They buffed the damage and nerfed the healing

[uneven mason]

You're like a few days behind

[vivid abyss]

is there somewhere a tldr for onyx annulet for prot?

[strong forum]

sporepods got nerfed by 21% its obv only just now bad

[daring marlin]

[sick sentinel]

so that means some fucker is gunna get it on his protwarrior

come here

[strong forum]

pins

[sick sentinel]

and ask, is this good?????

[uneven mason]

Gotta reduce that inconsequential healing

[strong forum]

with how much of a boner people have gotten for HPS details bars

[daring marlin]

I don't get it

lol

[strong forum]

wouldnt surprise me if some streamer came around and say its good

[daring marlin]

dude bdk is insane LOOK AT THEIR HPS

[uneven mason]

Literally just throwing up ip logs

[toxic gyro]

But mah overall hps

[dusky canopy]

laughs in Urchin

[sick sentinel]

whenever asmongold saw the "absorb 250k dmg" trinket he passed on it, i dunno how good that is but im assuming bad, so its good that we don't have #1 picking stupid items

from new raid

[toxic gyro]

Ppl still don’t get that all random shields/hps achiev is sniping healing of the rest of our kit and healers heals

Especially this expac

[uneven mason]

You mean healing out cannot exceed damage in

Holy mathballs

It's like the dudes using.....codex?

[strong forum]

warden is good

but only for ultra keys

[uneven mason]

7%!!!!

It's a pretty chonky on demand absorb that allows for some cheese

[hushed bluff]

guys when talents going to get update?

[strong forum]

really love losing the effect of indom and my 13% leech to get an inconsequential shield!

muh random 1shots

[vivid abyss]

oh so the stones ring fall behind 440+ rings

[strong forum]

for aoe yes

[uneven mason]

Next expansion?

[toxic gyro]

Pretty much

[vivid abyss]

ST in raid its still value ?

[strong forum]

in ST its bis

as the pin says

[vivid abyss]

thaks for confirmation 🙂

[strong forum]

you wont replace annulet and eranog ring in raid until they nerf them

[hushed bluff]

i though they gonna change it this season

[vivid abyss]

oh even the ranog ring ?

[strong forum]

yup

[sick sentinel]

mythic + talents dot change till i getr set pieces i guess right

[strong forum]

i mean i wrote a new pin didnt i

[uneven mason]

Our talents are just fine

[vivid abyss]

and eranog value in m+? 😄

[drifting violet]

just i quick question, is it better to use whirlwind or revenge? whirlwind costs more rage but does more damage unless talented into

[uneven mason]

If they stared messing with the most perfect tree they created than it's a bad sign

[strong forum]

ye kagnis or torc

[uneven mason]

Take ww off the bar, it's not used

[sick sentinel]

this man is correct, take WW off your bars

[hushed bluff]

sry didn't see that

[toxic gyro]

Do you think they will make some of current m+ bosses spells deflects instead of reflects?

[strong forum]

WW cant reset shield slam
WW doesnt apply deep wounds
WW does less dmg per rage than revenge

remove it

[sick sentinel]

revenge is literally improved ww, improved in EVERY possible way

[drifting violet]

thought so, the same as last season

[sick sentinel]

except sound and looks design

WW looks way better than revenge

[drifting violet]

thank you very much

[strong forum]

no

[uneven mason]

Don't

[toxic gyro]

Like 3rd and 4th bosses in nl. Reflects there are like NO 2.0

[sick sentinel]

what, it does lol

[uneven mason]

No

[sick sentinel]

im never ever suggesting use it

so don't exrapolate what i didnt say into what i did lol

[uneven mason]

Ww looks cursed AF as prot

[strong forum]

Crit vers back on the menu for ST it seems

[toxic gyro]

Speaking of NL, on last boss after magma wave a puddle spawns, and spits on random players. Is there a falloff dmg there further away you are or it’s just overturned ?

[vivid orchid]

so the sims had the 20% crit dam bug also then?

[undone verge]

when do I get to get rid of onyx and erranog ring

[vivid orchid]

mm, that would explain

[strong forum]

Mark of dargrul Sims better than anvil now

[vivid abyss]

is plague stone better for m+ in onnyx?

[strong forum]

No

Plague stone is sim bait

[vivid abyss]

so storm is best for m+ then

[strong forum]

Until you get decent ilvl rings

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hnkNauVH3PBN2iZY8Yndsh

[cerulean spear]

is this trinket worth upgrading or not that good for prot?

[strong forum]

maybe you dont have post buff dargrul in ?

[toxic pewter]

do you put crit enchant on ur rings i want to do that now

[strong forum]

hm

🤷‍♂️

well its just a dmg proc with 4ppm

🤷‍♂️

sim mark with just the string

trinket1=mark_of_dargrul,id=137357,ilevel=441

could be

this sim was made this morning

so ye

getting the same result

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1ASvyJeK25DPsV5bWdr6w6

do you have buzzing rune enabled

instead of howling

hm

skill issue idk

[modern brook]

this is a nightly qs not a latest; idk if that matters

[strong forum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hzA8hb2hK9WtTvoBcCJkyE

[modern brook]

noms also uses static empowerment

idk if that matters

[strong forum]

every sim does

[modern brook]

moos uses verse

T-T

i tried

game sucks

[strong forum]

moo defo being skill issued

[modern brook]

when did the dargul buff happen?

[strong forum]

yesterday

[modern brook]

did u find the issue?

im curious what caused it

aide from the obvious skill diff

mmm i shouldnt have asked

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/980209966583517224.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

ye

made the switch with season launch

[modern brook]

I dont use anytihng :^)

To be perfectly honest

I think raidbots can just generate a random number

and i would trust it completely

Gearing decisions from like an ilvl / secondary pov is so minute to me i just dont care

the idea that people play for that stuff is wild to me

I guess

I just dont want to tihnk about those decisions

the tool told me x is better so i equip x :^)

the accuracy of the tool is just a boon

[knotty venture]

Just to clarify on this point. I noticed that it was bugged in game, and implemented the bug into simc. So it wasn't until late into the tier that the bug was properly in simc. After blizz pushed the fix, I updated simc again.

[vivid orchid]

yea fair

[knotty venture]

I've taken care of the prot war module in df, with profile and apl help from Nom and friends

so if you do find any sort of bugs, just ping me

[thorny island]

Ha

[unreal arrow]

any dungeon specific dungeons we should be farming for items?

[strong forum]

NL for Mark of dargrul
Neltharus for Forgestorm

Those are the 2 big ones

Yes

[astral atlas]

LMAO

[strong forum]

Boon is uncapped ofc it's the best

Every other trinket is bfa split

Beacon falls off after 5 targets

Boon doesn't give a fuck

[warm plinth]

Mark of Dargrul is capped? It doesn't state that it's split on the tooltip, so just double checking

[strong forum]

It's like whetstone

Bfa split but not written in tooltip

[warm plinth]

Ah okay

[strong forum]

It was uncapped in legion

But ykno bfa split has its name for a reason

[warm plinth]

lol, yeah

[toxic pewter]

lol

[pallid quiver]

Bfa truly the worst

[long stone]

3/4 set pieces - not bad for first day normal xD

[toxic pewter]

wow lucky

[warm plinth]

I really liked BFA tbh. I didn't care for the Dazar'alor aesthetic much but I liked the dungeon pool

[long stone]

last boss is funny

[nocturne spindle]

man i just want the nethalrus mace from a 20 vault

[lusty tiger]

Bfa dungeons were great

[rancid ember]

BFA dungies were lit enjoyed em

[lusty tiger]

I’m happy to see 2 in the current rotation

[proud patrol]

I can't find Forgestorm for Neltharus in Guides, what am i missing?

[lusty tiger]

Actually I’m mad

That there’s no waycrest manor

[knotty venture]

You can ping me here too you know lol

[warm plinth]

@knotty venture hi, big fan of your work

[knotty venture]

some days I am too, some days I am rather ashamed of it

[warm plinth]

I can relate to that

[daring marlin]

This is gonna be a blast

[proud patrol]

In the wowhead guide, why is battering ram marked as a bad talent but still a recommended talent?

[dusky canopy]

So ran a 15 neltharus earlier its honestly not bad no real tank damage

obvious 19>15 but ye

[daring marlin]

16 Neltharus was my second key this season

[dusky canopy]

Just make sure people have there items ready to go and last boss is cake

[daring marlin]

I agree

[dusky canopy]

mmmmmm

[rancid ember]

No tertiary? 🚮

[dusky canopy]

True

[fresh igloo]

looks like that talent legend is out of date to me

[sick sentinel]

can some1 explain Halls of infusion last boss. Did it on 15, but when i get knocked back it insta turns to kill my melee dps. Taunting doesnt seem to work half the time. And if i charge in, I most likely get fucked by the 280k dot

it seems very overtuned

[dusky canopy]

Honestly whats dawned on me today is that you can loot a sic item like that ring but then you cant bring it to max ilvl!!! WOOHOO thanks blizz

[daring marlin]

It's why 17s are the play

until you comfortably farm 19/20

[dusky canopy]

Yeah true that

17 gets you into the highest bracket upgrade wise right

[daring marlin]

yeah hero track

I'm gonna lose my shit if I get forgestorm from that key

going to a 17 VP now

🙏

pally tank

[proud patrol]

whats forgestorm?

[vivid orchid]

bis weapon

[lusty tiger]

ive done 2 dungeons so far(im catching up friday because i took work off) brackenhide and underrot both +13, underrot = missed +3 by 5 seconds, brackenhide was killed a +2 timer wiping on the last boss

[proud patrol]

ty!

[silk sandal]

spell reflect it

But he seems to melee the closest target (its why he also machine guns down hunter pets)

[sick sentinel]

Does it work? I have tried both spell reflect and spellblock. It still gets applied. Although reflect is nice for 20% reduction

[daring marlin]

killer

[coral reef]

Use Dathea trinket so he cnat knock you back :p[

[sick sentinel]

kek

[silk sandal]

Yes spell reflect prevents the knockback. At least, I ran it several times yesterday and it did

Make sure you are using on squall buffet =P. The other one is just channeled damage

Looking at the dungeon journal though, it looks like he is SUPPOSED to knock you back and then start channeling on you. But in reality he melees in between (and even does the channel on random people to if you still arent in melee)

[sick sentinel]

oh the knockback

damm i have been using it after i get a debuff

will try it out thanks 🙂

[pallid quiver]

Zero surprise on this tbh

[vivid orchid]

whats funny is the laser would then target warlock pets making the fight rather easy

[pallid quiver]

I haven't even logged in since S2 started and I'm not surprised

[potent gulch]

i got -8% sim dps 😭 after crit bug fix

[daring marlin]

Insane how much of a difference a gigachad healer makes

[warm plinth]

Yep that's about what we figured

[potent gulch]

thats sad

[silk sandal]

Are forgestorm sims accurate? I am trying to decide what to upgrade and craft and I am seeign right now that 447 crafted weapon is simming better than a 441 forgestorm

its close, so a vault forgestorm will win out but that aint happening haha

[mighty valley]

i haven't heard otherwise and that's in line with the "best" weapons from last season

better at same ilvl, not worth dropping ilvl

[civic holly]

is there an faq about the new embellished shield?

[vivid orchid]

its not good

[silk sandal]

So I actually ran ST sims and yeah in ST forgestorm blows the crafted weapon out of the water

So nevermind haha

[mighty valley]

hmm yeah, very strong

[undone ice]

ok so for us

there are no shield on mm+ & shield of raid suck

we must to have shiled craft

[vivid orchid]

well generally yes unless you plan on quickly killing and farming mythic neltharion

[undone ice]

yes

so for 1 week in think i augment my shield 447

[warm whale]

how is this for tanking? do we want more dps heavy trink?

[chrome falcon]

do we want the weird new crafted shield?

[undone ice]

and Week 3 its weapon or belt

[pallid quiver]

Iirc if I'm thinking the right one, no; damage proc eas bad comoared to Shadowpatch thingy and Fire Belt or 2 patches

[undone ice]

probleme is not better than Belt embelish and lariat

[chrome falcon]

bet

[pallid quiver]

muh typos

Typing on phone at work is pain

[undone ice]

so if We understand 🙂 Best craft is , normal shield, weapon, Fire Belt and lariat for 6 first weeks

[pallid quiver]

Lariat is bad

Even after full sockets, it's not as good as the shadowpatch whatever thing

Can't rmemeber name and at work so can't check

[undone ice]

Best in slot troll me he said full mastery stuff...

[orchid mural]

Hey guys - the DoT effect in Sark - P1 - Ignore Pain is our best bet correct?

[sleek current]

No, Shield Wall, Spell Reflect, Ignore Pain. You should use all of it. On our normal kill today, I was able to get 8 casts off of Shield Wall over the entire fight. Phase 3 is more important, you'll be fine in P1 on Normal with just SR, IP and Demoralising Shout but, you basically get several free shield walls. Use 'em. 😄

[orchid mural]

thx man

[sleek current]

No worries. 🙂

[chrome falcon]

so this trinket off the first boss is nuts, right?

[nova rover]

are we just upgrading the belt?

[sudden sable]

Belt without ring is not worth.

[nova rover]

Which ring?

[warm plinth]

Belt is definitely worth it

A second shadowflame patch is about 200 DPS better than patch + belt

[sage ice]

what's up folks. question for yall that i assume there's probably a known answer for...but doesn't seem obviously apparent to me. Brutal Vitality and Fueled by Violence...is brutal vitality primarily favored because it's actively mitigating damage rather than healing damage that's come through?

[pallid quiver]

It eas favored because of its synergy with S1 4p

[thin silo]

4p synergy was the only thing propping up BV, even before BV got nerfed

[pallid quiver]

Once you lose that, it's real tough to weigh them against each other, but fbv's buff may have pushed it ahead?

[loud wave]

Maybe but I'd rather have other stat on belt than mastery

[pallid quiver]

Neither will be particularly major to your survival, though

[warm plinth]

I mean, the effect is why you use it, not the stats

[sage ice]

is there a consensus pick or i guess depends on your DPS?

[hardy snow]

these rocks are pretty cool in raid at 411

[red acorn]

This is going to be a really dumb question

[pallid quiver]

It's hard to measure defensiveness, so not particularly. I'm seapping to FBV tho because

[topaz leaf]

Is there a safe strat for Crawg in Underrot? Not sure what to do during tantrum.

[red acorn]

But how much do you guys just sit in prot stance? Do you swap pre-busters/raidwides and then swap back to battle? Do you just sit in it all the time? Sit in it never?

[daring marlin]

damn bro

[pallid quiver]

The former or last one is the goal, since tank lives usually aren't in danger outside of specific instances

[daring marlin]

17 Neltharus ezpz

[pallid quiver]

In raid you can probably just sit in battle stance 100% of the time

[red acorn]

Okay

[pallid quiver]

The rule of thumb is "Use d stance if you need it"

[red acorn]

Im only 406 atm, about to go into normal with my guild for the first time

Normally play Fury but im filling in for our main tank

[pallid quiver]

You can probably still sit in Battle 100% of the time in Heroic at 406 if you're playing properly

[red acorn]

Okay

[pallid quiver]

possibly mythic depending on the damage output; i don't actually know how bad it is this raid

[chrome falcon]

did up to and including neltharion today in HC

[tulip egret]

Boys what we using our sparks on, I'm ilvl 419 right now

[chrome falcon]

felt like nothing hurt

apart from zskarn

who kinda trucked

[daring marlin]

You're just too powerful

[chrome falcon]

i wish

[vital arch]

The rashok tank buster mechanic destroyed my OT today in a pug

Pug went straight to him instead of getting the wing to the left and we crashed and burnt

[marsh stone]

Yeah you definitely have to pay attention on Rashok lol

[vital arch]

Yeah it’s funny how some mechanics will cripple a pug but go smooth if you have two tanks in vc

[marsh stone]

voice coms won't save you on Rashok, it's too quick

But you're right

[earnest canyon]

Hi everyone
Is forgestorm dam worth the loss of mainstat?

In terms of dps sims say yes
Wondering about the tankiness
Is it worth to loose the mainstat?

[chrome falcon]

what

if forgestorm actually sims higher damage i'm gonna flip out

that sounds wrong

[pallid quiver]

Forgestorm was bis for damage iirc

When Moo and Nome were poking at it

[chrome falcon]

ok well as previously stated

i am now going to flip out

[warm plinth]

It sims higher in ST but not multi-target afaik

[buoyant tangle]

has the Researchers under fire event worked so far?

[pallid quiver]

At any rate, the largest portion of your survival is play with our talents, so likely worth where it's more damage

[sage ice]

yeeeppppp

[cinder nova]

Is anvil actually better than call to chaos?

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/well-waiting-gif-21891663

[sonic moon]

can you spell block tank combo on rashok

for the flame ability

[scenic mural]

I believe 5 and below it still wins

[warm plinth]

Fair enough

[timber nest]

any idea how or why neltharions tank debuff is sending one tank down, and also applying the debuff to the one who is tanking him

so then he gets killed

[daring marlin]

I'm sorta amused they'd buff Harlan but think "you know what, some of those aids bosses? Those are aight"

[stone pike]

I doubt they think that. If I recall last season they usually do nerf based tuning after a reset.

Annoying but it is what it is.

[daring marlin]

It was mostly a joke

SILLY

[primal jetty]

is Forgestorm not turbo BiS?

I was expecting it to be like the striketwice of this season but i dont see it mentioned anywhere

[final mist]

It is

[long umbra]

Hey fellow Warrior tanks. I run a basic blizz ui for the most part. I'm looking for an add on that will show my focus's debuffs, so i can see the stacks the main tank gets.

[warm plinth]

To be fair, they didn't buff Harlan (at least, since the actual buff). He was just bugged and not doing the party wide daggers during All Hands like he was supposed to be.

[daring marlin]

[cinder nova]

How many stacks we swap on Sark?

Just one?

[fast knot]

I know it was mentioned above with Neltharion, is the boss supposed to be meleeing on the same time deal as the debuff?

[cinder nova]

Like... AFTER he whacks you?

No.

Your taunt needs to taunt during the cast.

[twin bramble]

how do you skip the grotesque horrors in underrot? just ignore them?

[polar girder]

whats the big downside to a dagger 1h?

[warm plinth]

You don't. You kill them if you have to or you run around them if you have room to do so

[warm plinth]

There's no such thing as a strength dagger. And there's no benefit to playing a dagger over a strength weapon.

[fresh igloo]

any estimates on the worth of old set bonus vs ilvl upgrades

4 set doesn't have a damage bonus so it doesn't sim

[main shoal]

Hows war looking this seaosn in mplus?

[pallid quiver]

garbage, literally unplayable. cant even time +2s

[uneven mason]

sorry for the late night ping - It does track by slot, I have a upgraded 1h and it's letting me take my 2h weapons all the way up without crests

[cinder nova]

H Zskarn cranks holy fuck

[timber coral]

Is there anywhere to see damage diff between embellishments?

[warm plinth]

Fucking gamer

[daring marlin]

poor druid healer had to do 100k hps on Naraxas in a 16

lol

[dry tide]

Does anyone know if spell block works for zskarn tank debuff?

[cinder nova]

What do you guys do to soak bombs on H Zsark

[dry tide]

We had 3 pallys and 2 hunters. Bubble. Bop and turtle

[cinder nova]

And no, it doesn't work on the debuff

Almost nothing is blockable this tier

Kinda annoying

[dry tide]

Ya. That debuff hurts

How many stacks are you guys taunting on roughly?

[cinder nova]

Between 8-11 depending on debuffs and movement.

Kinda ass tbh

[dry tide]

Is it trucking you?

Cause I was getting melted

[cinder nova]

It's ass.

I sorta felt it in N

But H it's absolutely unhinged.

I feel like IP is basically required.

Just spend all your rage on it

I tolerated 21 stacks until I flopped

[dry tide]

The problem is that the debuff last so long. It’s not the initial damage. I just seem to melt away while the other tank has the boss

[cinder nova]

There is no initial damage.

[dry tide]

It’s a melee swing that applies it no?

[cinder nova]

It is, but there's no riding fire damage.

It just applies a dot.

[dry tide]

Gotcha

Either way that dot destroys

[strong forum]

? No

[limber python]

can someone link me an underrot route with no crazy skips

[warm plinth]

Define crazy

[limber python]

i dont need a rogue or 5 stealth pots

[strong forum]

Hold W

[limber python]

then u go over

is there a route without skips that doesnt go over too much

[warm plinth]

!fwvxVsjmq0)rgk0sPVBIrnbnc6JnxkD6ErzHByHR71h2F7sBPFWYA8fkqpZzoZz6aCeVMxnk(j0oFz92zELStP6Ax6NFJxM(UeE1Vb4x8sK(2xB6xaDeTlttWW87xgobJdFuEDfRb8fOFLQUXblzB4(6sF)gfZaCUB4eVmr)0uNA(lk1fWL9xwrQV1aEDjZUOFYCz2kQA7Y2RQAh7hN4vibMWqryW3fTninNMTmpUIMeY1Dm2OePSwnMiH4yK6zSWtlZZnsxGgQlZ3XPqL3KuO5ehQehNzwffTJHY7ez2ocPcwbwgHjUSjEbLVJNu3MZ2DEC9NiPjTXyqKdneh2cQIQmyPh9kuW(rHMachSlIxTOCNClruV9I2SMTgbn0)CcOvLWOgJTWIPisaP7B)pOwzTnTPn6Wz24yrHZ2zJBnxAOgkSIRiYCdOjbWj(6PWtBEWvOH6FRTtVR3ug5tOqLqIoo7oQMfeMVgfePKQbzusD06)zgbHoCiXMHANA23mWcLIYIJeLECw2TxACMY(NhhtjnkSPd7jlw(E9AvuM3CXoVnkLKJdsYcbdJI1a6(zZyL6cJqte25peoY63D0pA8hGgCUbn5b1qHpjSq3njmMGEqvG3lhiLjTMu(dKZ(de5uPiNyaBpP52itYAz2IYngD4ZkPhtEtootQ)Gz4J)vlIE4vO33mNHRRxRFgU903hKW0048TNQHZVmo1m92TN(24YmWRol706rnbWZJ9Ypn2nasUi8MT)OiGtlD9M)PSLGLo56VT(tP6hPQRx)8hwFh)Va Something like this

There are things in this route you can skip without stealth but I went with 0 skips

[limber python]

thx

[warm plinth]

Also, should be obvious but just in case, you don't pull Cragmaw room in one pull

I was just too lazy to keep making new pulls

[limber python]

yea

[strong forum]

Just like the 447 shield prior the stat change, it's not reasonable to drop ilvl for a tiny St dps gain as tank

[pallid quiver]

coward talk

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

I'm pretty sure they did a quite massive pull into Cragmaw in the MDI during BFA

But then, you could do anything with a fire mage in BFA

[pliant jolt]

if i am doing the rep quest, when i am finishinig it - i am getting half spark, do i need to do it all over again on alt or i am getting half spark "for free"?

[warm plinth]

Only the first week gave us a fragment for free.

We only get one every 2 weeks going forward

A fragment per week

[ionic fern]

Morning Ghash, how are you?

[warm plinth]

I'm doing okay. Hoping for a short night. How about you

[potent gulch]

Looking like it's time to craft 447 shield with shadowflame

[lusty grotto]

that moment when your group is so coordinated on Nelth that you do delete the shield before it pops up and it bugs doing swirlies for the entire fight

and then it pops shield as well with double the swirlies

[dire sparrow]

Is forgestorm any good for us?

[urban portal]

bis

[oblique quarry]

man neltharions lair feels over tuned as shit

[lusty grotto]

my ww bro is trying to sim forgestorm

and raidbots is being weird suggesting a 421 weapon as OH instead of a 447 forgestorm/crafted weapon

do you know if that's intended @ionic fern ?

5 patchwerks 1.5 mins no lust

[urban portal]

i mean

[craggy pilot]

Does anyone know when we get CC?

[urban portal]

hes missing strength

@lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

lol

[urban portal]

main stat is more powerful than a minor proc

oh wait

im dumb

sorry

i didnt even know forgestorm didnt give strength

[lusty grotto]

yea

[urban portal]

if you have the sim i can take a look

[jagged pier]

He must be simming wrong or somthing im almost certain his bis is pogstorm and fist wep from underrot

Same as brew would be

[lusty grotto]

yeah

thats what we expect

he just got forgestorm and we're figuring out if he should trade me lol

[jagged pier]

Well every melee thats uses 1 hands want it basically ita dumb amounts of damage even when u can only equio one

[warm plinth]

Tell him yeah it's just shit for WW

ez free weapon

[lusty grotto]

lol

id rather he keep it if it bumps dps honestly

[pallid quiver]

I approve of lying to your friends to improve your own DPS

jakey imma need you to do a solid and edit that last message to say "It's shit for every class that's not specifically Prot War"

[lusty grotto]

lol

ok we figured it out

btw

since you need 3 bosses now

for vault

how is it gonna work for people like my brother who still needs eranog ring

just hope for the drop since you have no vault chance?

and if you do 3 voti bosses, would it take a slot of the raid thing

[limpid anchor]

Yes, so more or less: get fucked

[lusty grotto]

yeah that fucking blows for him

[limpid anchor]

He can try to pug 3 hc bosses to see if he gets another vault slot

But the Eranog ring is bis for many, so there should be some grps running mythic

[lusty grotto]

hes 8/8 normal 3/8 hc aberrus, so all 3 slots are kinda taken

so if he does mythic voti, i wonder what will happen

[limpid anchor]

Yeah but the higher might override the normal ones?

Which prob won’t happen, bcs it would still be worse loot

[lusty grotto]

ahhh

youre right

[limpid anchor]

Guess he’s fucked

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[limpid anchor]

But even if the Eranog ring is bis, 440 from the raids are probably higher prio anyway

[mighty valley]

jesus christ sargha is brutal

[lusty grotto]

see this

that shit was funny af

we were like oh fuck

[limpid anchor]

The swirlies are too fast

Think it’s 2 sec before they explode?

[warm plinth]

I am fairly certain that you can't get vault slots from previous season content.

So doing VotI should have no impact on vault slots

[lusty grotto]

bro double swirlies was fucking insane lol

[lusty grotto]

hmmm

[jagged pier]

If he only does voti i think he can only fet voti loot, but ill be honest i have no idea mever gone back to do previous tier

[lusty grotto]

well its a new vault

[jagged pier]

Tell him to go pug it first i guess

[lusty grotto]

we'll see if we can find a group this week, it'll be hard

[jagged pier]

And see what the vault screen says

[lusty grotto]

i at least can roll for him and trade it since i have it 😄

[limpid anchor]

No you can’t

If you have it it’s locked for you

[lusty grotto]

fuck

cant bank cheese it?

[limpid anchor]

No

[lusty grotto]

rip in pieces

[limpid anchor]

Only thing we didn’t test was deleting the item

And after it restoring again

[lusty grotto]

that seems giga risky

[limpid anchor]

Yea that’s why didn’t try

So about embillishments, the sim recommends double shadow, wowhead frostfire. I assume embellishments are not a case by case decision right?

[fossil wind]

got the 1st boss tank trink, but it's not showing numbers in details. any idea how good it is?

[lusty grotto]

yeah it depends for embelishments

there's also the cheat death shield cloak to consider

[limpid anchor]

On what does it depend?

Are they not flat dmg

(Except if you have the Eranog ring)

[lusty grotto]

yea

double shadowflame is the way to go otherwise

or 1 shadowflame and cheat death cloak

undulating sporecloak

[limpid anchor]

Didn’t even know there’s a cheat death em

[lusty grotto]

im not entirely sure if it'll be something considering though as tanks

but i know our dps/heals is considering heavily for high keys

[limpid anchor]

Tbh on rashok I consider it kek

I got onetapped by him :(

[lusty grotto]

its not really a cheat death, but a shield, people just think its giga strong

[limpid anchor]

From the wording

It won’t pop anyway

[lusty grotto]

xD

[limpid anchor]

If you get from 40% to 0

[lusty grotto]

yeah

as tanks its giga sus, but if people are dying over aoes etc

it works

[limpid anchor]

But huge loss in dps so yeah

Prob won’t be payed

Gotta get those grey parses

[lusty grotto]

not worth as tank yea

maybe

we will have to see

i mean its kind accurate, not min-maxy

in a more-casual-player-looking-for-something-quick way

[warm plinth]

I mean, neither guide will always have the most up to date information; that's part of why this discord exists. It's a lot easier to share play by play information in this setting than have to submit a revision to your guide every time you want to change something.

[lusty grotto]

wowhead's audience isn't really like blasting 26s and shit

so its a valid recommendation

and thats also true

what ghash said

[warm plinth]

The only really bad thing I've seen on wowhead anyway is that it had Barbaric Training in the M+ build early on

But it was updated at some point

[fresh igloo]

it also has one of the shield charge talents labelled as "bad"

[warm plinth]

I'm assuming it's taking Thunderlord instead

Llarold has a tendency to lean toward defensive shit

[lusty grotto]

alright time

[limpid anchor]

So just double patch then

[lament shell]

can someone link the biggest single target dmg talent build ? (i have 2 set) im currently running some weird execute tech

[warm plinth]

Raid build in pins

[limpid anchor]

that doesnt have max dps

[warm plinth]

What's not max DPS about it?

[proper roost]

last boss of HOI is such huge dopamine SRs

they're going to nerf this aren't they

[limpid anchor]

that its prob more dps to not use the block talent

[proper roost]

[limpid anchor]

and instead of penetrable wall you use instigate

[warm plinth]

What block talent

[limpid anchor]

enduring defense

the raid build pinned is good

but not for max dps :3

is the shadowflame sim broken?

[dull relic]

is prot 2pc better in m+ than 4pc vault

seems like 4pc is just some more survivability but idk if thats like a big contributor

while new 2pc is just big shield slam dam

[edgy kindle]

Defensively speaking, if you wanted an on use trinket, what trinket would you go for, Cragshaper or Treemouth ?

[limpid anchor]

tree or the raid one

[limpid anchor]

tank damage taken doesnt seem like an issue at all in the new m+

so i would go 2p 2p

[shrewd cedar]

Do y’all macro shield slam and ignore pain together ?

[jagged pier]

Umm no

So there is a macro which is Ip then ss in the pins

Which snipes ss procs when u cast IP

However u still have a SS binding as well

[shrewd cedar]

Oh so you use ignore pain as usual but it’ll always land the slam proc ?

[jagged pier]

Yes

And you still use your Ss binding as usual

[shrewd cedar]

That makes a lot mor sense then how I was viewing it

[jagged pier]

Otherwise u gunna rage starve yourself with that macro

[limpid anchor]

(Same for block)

[undone ice]

are there a site for BIS and best craft item like icyvein?

[shrewd cedar]

Wow head has good guides

Method.gg is another option

[limpid anchor]

Wow head has a shit list

[undone ice]

so Belt is best option 🙂

and when we have new neck we replace lariat

[jagged pier]

Well yes and no

As it stand right now a crafted belt with betrer stats and shadowflame patch will do about 200 dps then frostfire and another piece with shadowflame patch

So its a 200 dps increase and better stats which is also a slight defenaive benefit

But bliz could change a lot soon so thats why hold off for a few weeks

U dont nees to instantly craft somthing

[undone ice]

yes better its keep Spark

no?

[jagged pier]

I mean im holding spark for a few weeks

But i generally will do that anyway

[undone ice]

ok

2nd spark next week

[warm plinth]

I'd like to hold you for a few weeks

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-pepe-pepe-hug-hugging-gif-22352687

[limpid anchor]

But the logs :x

[deft hinge]

its a kiss, they just pretending to hug 🤣

[warm plinth]

idc I'll kiss him too

I ain't scared

[jagged pier]

Id kiss him

[jagged pier]

Ah its week one i sacrificed parses for boss kills yesterday

Go for logs in like a month

[ionic fern]

^

[cyan agate]

Any tips for HC Zskarn I found it really hard to survive the tank mechanic. Got to about 10 - 12 stacks before swaps, made dealing with bombs nearly impossible.

[covert topaz]

We just had offtank take one / Hunters / Pallas take them with immunities

but the dot hurt allot more than it did on normal

[stray gazelle]

Hey folks! Got my first raid experience for 10 years yesterday and experienced some thread issues with my DK mate in Aberrus HM. When I swap bosses with taunt + shield slam + thunderclap, sometimes thread switched to him again. He told me it’s possibly linked to hps addition. We had the same dps (around 30-35k). Are you experiencing the same?

[warm plinth]

HPS would not be doing it. Death Strike healing does not generate threat. Is he death gripping?

[proper roost]

you can check logs on those specific attempts and see if he's just mispressing taunt or dg

a likely culprit

[vocal nimbus]

is the bomb boss overtuned for big groups?

the one with the mines and fires

[stray gazelle]

Was my first guess but he told me not at all nor any taunt maccro. I will check logs later today and share if I find something.

[proper roost]

not at all lol

[vocal nimbus]

had to tank it with 3 people on hc with 29 players

[proper roost]

[ionic fern]

Nope. Did you check his casts? Maybe he fat fingers taunt/Grip?

[sour meadow]

Not at all

I was solo soaking it as prot warr

On hc

[dusk loom]

What is the most ideal way to fight neltharus last boss

buffs seems too much of an rng

is there a chart that shows every buff dmg and whats the best one of them all?

couldn't find one online

I mean coins of course

[marble cipher]

there's more than likely a WA that'll show you what buff you got (cast time, ideal usage), or there will be a wa
Other option is to just learn the different ones by heart (haven't done a lot of nelth, but there's probably only about 4 different ones or something right?)

[dusk loom]

about that

the boots, mage staff, and the semi trinket, fourth one is a bomb

so yes 4 I think

I feel like the boots are the best

thats why I asked

it might be damage difference or just a feeling

[long stone]

For the new set piece bonus - is it worthy to bind Last stand to SB via macro?

[cerulean spear]

whats the verdict on this trinket

[long stone]

-15% movement speed for 15 sec naaaah

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern my cursed fucking trinket luck continues...

[cerulean spear]

@long stone is the effect even good like ill work around being slowed lol

[long stone]

Imo this raid many movement things were i would say- Good That im not slowed xD

[chilly brook]

I got nothing from raid yesterday and today

On the bright side I’m blasting at least

[ionic fern]

Don't need trinkets.

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMhs-tD_e24

[noble shadow]

Is 2p 2p worth on prot? Or rather stick to the 4 set until I can replace it with new set

[sick sentinel]

i cannot for the life of me underestand the logic at blizzard HQ that goes :

realease the raid and its accessible day 1, its relatively easy on normal difficulty everything is getting more casual, and then we gotta wait 6 weeks for the catalyst

[crude notch]

[sick sentinel]

its not 1 + 2 = 3 to me

[hardy snow]

its catchup for people that were unlucky with rolls/drops, not main way to acquire tierset

[sick sentinel]

well, what if your primary prefered way to play the game is mythic plus or arena

so, i guess now its GG go do the raid dummy

[hardy snow]

or chill and wait

catalyst open in 6 weeks, season last little bit longer then that

[marble cipher]

general consensus is that it opens too late, but, it is what it is
And it's only an "issue" at start, eventually you'll have all the tier you want and start using charges for transmog anyway 😄

[crude notch]

Well as stated the catalyst isn't designed to be your only source of tier.

If you PvP or M+ you can get tier from vault

and this season they added the omni token from getting ksm/whateverpvprating.

[jagged pier]

Theyve also made normal really easy

U can go pug and get tier very easily

[ionic roost]

Catalyst is for extreme bad luck protection it's not for initial gearing

They've said that multiple times

[crude notch]

Also, you get access to LFR week one this season so you can get tier from there even sooner than before.

[ionic fern]

Jeh, one shot everything except for the last boss. 😂

Was weird.

But even on HC some bosses wrecked.

Or...we did mechanics wrong.

Idk.

[sick sentinel]

legit, i might use this printer to start printing off wow stuff

become more betterer at game, put them in frames n stuff, (jk), reflect list, maybe, anything else nah, a mem.

[covert topaz]

anyone using a decent Spell reflect WA that announces when you use spell reflect? or know a way of doing this without just /cast spell reflect /yell SPELLREFLECT

[wintry nymph]

Yogi back to trying to improve?

We like to hear it

[marble cipher]

make a wa that tracks spell reflect cast, then in "actions" tab, you can add a message to your preferred channel (say/yell/party) and type the message that you want to use for it

*wa that tracks spell reflect aura on you

[oak ivy]

what ilvl craft is an enchanted aspect's crest

447?

[granite pond]

Unstable Frostfire vs Primal w/ Shadowflame - but the Unstable has a socket.

How close is that

[crude notch]

sims will tell you.

[granite pond]

nvm i'm an idiot, just figured out how to add different embellishment. i;m a sim newb

[covert topaz]

thanks ill do that

[oak ivy]

Can i get a ballpark on how much rage gen bloodsurge is?

[undone verge]

Depends on the targets

[oak ivy]

ahhh ok

[crude notch]

So

skyhold

I need you to focus up

I have a real question

CLEAR COMMS

[oak ivy]

no

so anyway

my dog did this thing

[undone verge]

In my 25 minute HoI it was around 63 rage per minute

[crude notch]

So for Brew, I upgrade a 2h to make 1hs free crest-wise to upgrade because otherwise you need two 1hs at a certain ilvl to upgrade. Would this also be true for 1h-shield wearers?

[undone verge]

Seems to be around that ball park in m+

[crude notch]

Like if I upgrade a 2h will I be able to upgrade a 1h-shield?