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plush tendon
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later this tier

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thats a gooooood looking shield

misty moss
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Is there a non embellishment version @strong forum ?

strong forum
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no

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well yes

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but it doesnt have that mog

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but that one you can craft this week already

dusky canopy
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Imo do shield>belt>shadowflame> then weapon if you haven’t gotten one by then

misty moss
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Ok. So I’ll craft the non embellishment version

plush tendon
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thats just a primal molten yea?

strong forum
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ye

plush tendon
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gross tmog

jagged pier
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ye

plush tendon
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I have it

jagged pier
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ye

dusky canopy
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You probably won’t do crafted weapon because forgestorm is a thing

plush tendon
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never gonna use it for looks

dusky canopy
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Fully upgraded forgestorm is probly bis over max crafted

misty moss
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I already have the primal molten shield and sword

strong forum
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yeah a 441 forgestorm will prolly win against 447 normal weppy

dusky canopy
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But obviously sim

long stone
strong forum
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yea i think so

jagged pier
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oh it was sims being weird wasnt it

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that showed it worse

misty moss
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So there’s not a new spark non-embellishment shield, I can just upgrade my primal molten @dusky canopy ?

plush tendon
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listen, im gonna get titans grip as a prot warrior and equip the Ashkander

strong forum
jagged pier
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i swear it was behind ST but we had that weird issue with sims

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and strings and stuff

strong forum
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441 forgestorm wins over 447 strike twice

strong forum
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god damn

dusky canopy
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Forgestorm owns

jagged pier
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yer it giga

strong forum
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and thats strike twice

modern brook
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Forgesword owns

jagged pier
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cant wait to get it on last week of the patch

strong forum
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that weapon is already better than your average weapon

dusky canopy
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^^

sleek current
dusky canopy
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Literally same

long stone
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Damn im enton - what is this Helm with emeblishment

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Shadowflame bla 🥸

strong forum
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its interesting tho that 20ilvl upgrade on weapon is only 600 dps

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that sounds hella wrong

dusky canopy
modern brook
strong forum
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forgestorm has 0 mainstat

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strike twice doesnt have any draw backs

dusky canopy
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Nom the weapon proc must scale horribly

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On strike twice I mean

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For it to only gain 600

strong forum
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ye

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it goes from 5.6k to 6.3k

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but the ilvl alone should be more of a gain

dusky canopy
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Holy bad

strong forum
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which confuses me

dusky canopy
strong forum
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but wdps checks out

plush tendon
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damn, nothing in the raid looks great for Warrior... I might just raid on the DK cause theres some cool stuff for him in there

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: ^)

dusky canopy
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I should try to think of a new name brew makes me feel like a traitor to my kind

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Warrior owns

hardy snow
dusky canopy
strong forum
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you can freely change your server name as of a few months ago

modern brook
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I cant check rn cause wage cage

strong forum
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so the gain is less clueless

strong forum
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the dmg from strike twice is literally at 0 cost

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forgestorm comes at the loss of 100% mainstat

misty moss
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Ok. Thinking I’ve got a plan. Farm M20 for shield. Use Spark of Shadowflame to craft the belt. Run Lariat for now. Then week 3 craft helm + Shadowflame embellishment. Swap Lariat for a filler until week 5 goes to the neck.

strong forum
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i wouldnt craft helmet immediately

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cuz its a tierslot

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helmet is a craft for when you have 5/5 tier

modern brook
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Wild

strong forum
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you can also craft shadowflame patch on any armor slot

modern brook
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thats what i get for playing arms i guess

dusky canopy
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Yeah hard agree with nom on that

strong forum
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so ideally, boots for freedom

dusky canopy
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Don’t rush helm

hardy snow
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btw. thats the name of crafted basic neck?

misty moss
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You guys are lifesavers.

strong forum
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torc of passed time

dusky canopy
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@misty moss all in all we are talking min max stuff so like you won’t be unable to do content if you don’t do exactly what’s bis but alot of the regulars here enjoy min maxing

strong forum
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so, helmet, shoulders,chest, legs and gloves are locked for tier
boots is the only free slot if you raid mythic
every other slot is locked by 450 loot from mythic raid

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if you dont mythic raid

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bracers, cloak, boots and shield are free

dusky canopy
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You have to look at the long game with sparks because it’s such a limited resource

strong forum
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rings are locked to eragon and annulet for raid
for m+, just get any ring with good haste and youre gucci

misty moss
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I’m wanting to min max and will do some mythic raiding, probably not CE. So I appreciate the takes here.

hardy snow
strong forum
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if you want to take the 40k++ HP loss, yeah sure

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it absolutely is a valid pick

dusky canopy
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40 whole K

sick sentinel
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How come it takes so many crests to upgrade gear on my alt but on my main it takes hardly any?

dusky canopy
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Nahh

strong forum
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the cloak has 0 stamina, its a 20k hp loss for dps at mythic

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so i assume its like 40k for tanks

hardy snow
strong forum
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yeah i mean ill also run the cloak

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cuz i know how to press my buttons

dusky canopy
dusky canopy
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Well tbf you are right don’t really need the hp if you good at living

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It’ll be the same concept as running dps trinkets over tank trinkets

misty moss
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What’s a good neck to use in the meantime with lariat off the table and before I have a spark for Torc, just the raid one? Vengeful Hurricane?

hardy snow
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or you can also just chill and run lariat for a while till you get something better

dusky canopy
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Nom you know the value of this cloak

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1% ?

strong forum
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Lariat lost 50% of its value depending on how many sockets you have

strong forum
unkempt hinge
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I've been trying to follow, but just to get it straight for me, what is my first crafted slot? ❤️

strong forum
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Maybe in like 30min

dusky canopy
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Shield

strong forum
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If you wanna play it safe, shield

unkempt hinge
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Okay thank you

strong forum
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If you craft shield, you can also loot as fury from vault instantly

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And dodge like 4 terrible tank trinkets

sick sentinel
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It costs 3 drake crests to upgrade weapon from 405 to 421. Each rare drops 1/15 of a drake crest. So to upgrade 1 item from 405-421 you need to kill 45 rares. Not even counting the whelping crests. Obviously it'll be easier when m+ and stuff is out but am i missing anything or is farming gear on alts this week just not worth it?

dusky canopy
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I think the only people who should remotely consider otherwise are ones who will get a shot at the first mythic raid shield

unkempt hinge
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What new trinkets are we looking for?

dusky canopy
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If that’s not you then you do shield first

icy bane
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Kinda like the sound of that, probably ain’t gonna mythic raid this tier

strong forum
uneven mason
strong forum
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If you farm stones now, you can chill on them the next week's

hardy snow
icy bane
dusky canopy
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Flightstones made it to like 1400 before I logged

potent gulch
jagged granite
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I havent been following the conversation, whats the crafted embelishments we want now? 😁

strong forum
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With fury you get the chance on 1h weapons

potent gulch
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double less weapons

dusky canopy
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Yeah gotta loot as fury

unkempt hinge
strong forum
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Ye

uneven mason
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So PSA: there are 3 quests this week for loot boxes, time walking, mythic dungeons and 5 heroic dungeons

sick sentinel
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ok ty

dusky canopy
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You can’t roll pogstorm out of the vault as arms

unkempt hinge
icy bane
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Was hoping for shield out of the heroic box fml

long stone
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If we are 415 we could Easy choose Not the items Right ?

unkempt hinge
misty moss
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@dusky canopy @strong forum thank you both for the back and forth, good info

dusky canopy
potent gulch
dusky canopy
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Yes

unkempt hinge
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I personally do M+ mostly, any big items that I should look out for?

strong forum
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Tree splinter, forgestorm

tropic tangle
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the DF heroics gives a 415 track item or drake crest, the other two are heroic loot from Vault

dusky canopy
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Pogstorm

unkempt hinge
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Thanks

potent gulch
tropic tangle
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none of the things are dropping Aberrus loot

strong forum
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Okay nvm then

unkempt hinge
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Ah rip

strong forum
unkempt hinge
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So just getting 2k flightstones this week 😄

strong forum
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Maybe I can snag a grieftorch gladge

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Is the only trinket I don't have from vault

heavy sinew
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are the crafted shields any good?

jagged pier
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mog yes for the new one

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good no

heavy sinew
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: (

icy bane
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Got heroic torch couple weeks ago, open box 2nd grief torch same week

violet sable
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Confirm all the tank trinkets in Aberrus are garbo?

strong forum
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Ward is good

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But idk if that's from raid, haven't checked sources

jagged pier
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but your gunna want beacon and anvil i think

strong forum
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Beacon and nelth call

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Anvil is garbo

jagged pier
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splinters really strong but thats m+

icy bane
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Wish I could get the damn nuffen hat tmog this week zzz

jagged pier
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i believe i am

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i know what the icon looks like

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XD

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shouldnt take like 2 months off the game

strong forum
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Anvil is just Str + small dmg proc
Nelth call is crit + gigantic Str proc

uneven mason
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Bigstr

violet sable
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Im big excite for our tier set, think we got hooked up.

strong forum
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It's a neat dmg gain

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Defensively we'll be a bit weaker

violet sable
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Im not pulling 70k so i like the idea of dmg increase

modern brook
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Fuck defense

violet sable
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^

modern brook
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This shield is for slamming

strong forum
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Im not even sure 70k is even that good anymore... When I see Andy pulling 100k in his 28/29s
(he pulls alot larger to time those)

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(he's the only one that does that much)

violet sable
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What a Chad

strong forum
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He legit pulls 40% more dmg than any other push tank I've seen

violet sable
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Does he stream?

strong forum
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Ofc

jagged pier
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every other push tank thought codex was good

violet sable
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Andy is his twitch name?

strong forum
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Andybrew

uneven mason
violet sable
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Ty

devout pollen
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He’s live now fwiw

violet sable
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winning

devout pollen
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On his pally lol

uneven mason
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Ofc

violet sable
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Warriors biggest crime against humanity, not a pali

devout pollen
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True

strong forum
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He plays all tanks

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Has to

violet sable
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i say that as im gearing my DH

strong forum
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He's gearing up 11 tanks for rwf next week

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So uh, lotta chores this week

uneven mason
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I also play all tanks

devout pollen
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Damn that’s sweatier than a field hand in the middle of August in the desert

uneven mason
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But I play them at preschool level

strong forum
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Welcome to raiding at the very peak of wow

devout pollen
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Oh I know I’m just memeing

strong forum
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And it's only getting worse

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In early SL it was half as many characters

uneven mason
strong forum
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In bfa it was only 3-4

lusty tiger
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Tragic

strong forum
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It's getting more and more each race

devout pollen
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Lol true I forgot about the swamps Ikari

strong forum
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Cuz dumbass loot System

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But that's only an issue for like 3 guilds

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So, not really an issue

lusty tiger
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That is extremely anti fun

modern brook
sick sentinel
heavy sinew
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well it's gotten to a point where it's not about fun anymore

devout pollen
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It’s only remotely necessary for RWF otherwise you’re out of your mind

modern brook
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It exists solely to set the tone for the patch

devout pollen
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Like. I want cash money to play that hard

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No other way I’d put that effort in

hardy snow
jagged pier
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its only 11 chars because they dont need to pay for traders anymore

odd tree
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idk, first couple days they look like they're having fun

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usually by that first reset it starts looking sad

jagged pier
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no the first half a week is horrendous cause they do splits

quick zealot
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Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask something like this, but how liberal should I be about using the Flightstones? I'm like 399 ilvl on my p warrior rn and a lot of these would def net ilvl upgrades for me but I don't wanna regret dumping these too early.

fresh igloo
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that probably depends on how much you expect to succeed in getting new gear next week when the season starts

undone verge
odd tree
quick zealot
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didn't mean to wink

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but

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there ya go

devout pollen
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You also get a ton of flightstones. I have like 2000 and I only played for a couple hours last night doing the opening quests.

quick zealot
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yeah that's what i've noticed too - i'm at like 1400 after maybe 3 hours

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but didn't know if it'd be like a regular deluge of these shits

devout pollen
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That’s the million dollar question. They’re supposed to come from most activities now

violet sable
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I too almost capped just doing the available quests.

undone verge
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If ur gonna cap on flight stones then spend them, but you can also hold those 100 flightstone use items in your bags to hold more than 2@

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2k*

violet sable
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🧠

devout pollen
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Look at this man with bag space to spare

daring marlin
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oh nvm I did get the spark

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I just never opened the bag whew

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BECAUSE MY BAGS ARE A FUCKING MESS

uneven mason
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Press the sort bag button

daring marlin
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I have.

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funny guy

uneven mason
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Did you define the content of each bag?

daring marlin
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Hell no.

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MAYBE I WILL

lusty grotto
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any bugs with the faction change and the guild thing?

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its time for dwarf

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i passed Guild lead to one of my alts and ready to go

daring marlin
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don't do it nimchip

amber siren
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had some guildies who were reporting they needed a GM to manually put the transfer through bcs the processing got stuck

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not sure if that's a 10.1 exclusive issue though

lusty grotto
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it could be

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if a lot of people are doing it heh

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its back to alliance finally for me

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well i'll check back later

dark lark
amber siren
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dwarves ydnad

lusty grotto
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to be fair

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i was human from vanilla to WoD

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and then orc until today

uneven mason
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I can't unorc

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I've tried

daring marlin
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If you're a horde warrior at least be a tauren yeesh

lusty grotto
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im so glad they did this cross faction shit, it was needed, faction balance was so fucking stupid in the past forcing people to go horde

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except on select realms

uneven mason
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I tolerate tauren, but tauren don't scream warrior to me

daring marlin
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...and frostmourne I guess for OCE lol

lusty grotto
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yeah

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i guess

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i wonder if i can still whisper horde people when i swap back

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cause i dont know who the fuck crafts non-blacksmith shit in my realm anymore

frosty sapphire
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How do we get the new quests do I have to finish the dragon isles stuff?

daring marlin
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you need to complete the campaign on the reach

lusty grotto
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good bye chef orc-ette

plush tendon
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The Warrior race tier list

lusty grotto
plush tendon
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allied race Orc and Dwarf get a -1 cause they aint the OG

frosty sapphire
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Ok

unkempt hatch
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Why are pandas above the elves?! 👀👀

lusty grotto
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male elves need to be split into F

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and kultiran needs to be A

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cause beer belly is BiS

true raven
daring marlin
unkempt hatch
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But chonk looks bad in plate

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They just look icky

true raven
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Embrace the chonk

daring marlin
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Depends on the set.

plush tendon
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Elves got knocked down... cause we all know BEs should be paladins

true raven
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If dwarf didn't have such a strong racial KT would be the ally race to choose

unkempt hatch
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I’m chonk in rl I don’t need to be Chonk in WoW too

plush tendon
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I was a BE Warrior and they look great.... but its not warrior race

unkempt hatch
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I prefer my races to be able to wear shoes so Tauren and trolls are F

lusty grotto
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i have to agree

plush tendon
lusty grotto
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sadly

plush tendon
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they would sink in plate

lusty grotto
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cause tauren look really good

unkempt hatch
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Tauren are okay, but not my fav

quick zealot
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i'm fine with C tier for my undead

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their technically garbo

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but

daring marlin
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also the chonk on KT humans is counteracted by the fact they swing a 2H with ONE ARM!

quick zealot
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the mog game is skrong

daring marlin
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CHAD RACE

unkempt hatch
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I don’t have KT unlocked because horde only

daring marlin
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peasant

unkempt hatch
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I’m too lazy to go back and unlock them

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Who plays alliance anyway?

scarlet mesa
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Alliance

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Cringe

daring marlin
scarlet mesa
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Who plays a fantasy game to be a human

unkempt hatch
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Facts

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Elves or nothin

daring marlin
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unfortunate

lusty grotto
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says alliance, goes into human

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fucking cringe as fuck

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lmao

scarlet mesa
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I play tauren myself

lusty grotto
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jesus christ

unkempt hatch
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Most of my characters are belfs because why not.

plush tendon
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I recently made my first human.... they actually look pretty good

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ngl

quick zealot
daring marlin
plush tendon
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lots of customization options

quick zealot
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ayyyyy

daring marlin
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Plus human looks good in all gear.

plush tendon
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but it aint Dwarf

plush tendon
lusty grotto
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human look better in all gear

daring marlin
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They don't ruin helms like KT, Pandaren or Tauren sometimes

lusty grotto
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orcs as well

daring marlin
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yeah it's like BE/Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone

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imo

lusty grotto
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idk about BEs

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there's some gear that looks like shit

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chicken legs

daring marlin
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only when boots are super chunky

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which happens for some reason at times

lusty grotto
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yeah idk

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time to do some work lmao

unkempt hatch
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Orc shoulders ruin it for me. Those things are cursed.

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They’re too big and have hovering issues

lusty grotto
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fem orc shoulders are fine

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male orc are another matter

unkempt hatch
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Who plays female pssst

lusty grotto
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i did

uneven mason
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Femorc is bis

lusty grotto
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🤷‍♂️

edgy locust
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which one i should get

lusty grotto
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what is this an asmongold stream?

daring marlin
edgy locust
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415 item or crest

uneven mason
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Looked cursed

daring marlin
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you mean when they were super tiny during BC? lol

unkempt hatch
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Elves don’t have those problems. Which is why they’re superior

uneven mason
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Yeah they were actually relative to model size correct

daring marlin
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I think you get both.

edgy locust
daring marlin
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and you CHOOSE the rep reward.

edgy locust
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gotta get one

unkempt hatch
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Nah I thin you have to pick

plush tendon
lusty grotto
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lol i fucking sold that

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time for item restoration

plush tendon
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Im Gimli in this mofo

unkempt hatch
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Dwarves are too smol

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Too short and wide

lusty grotto
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that dwarf looks dope af

uneven mason
plush tendon
unkempt hatch
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They’re the chodes of WoW

plush tendon
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still, that shield of yours....

uneven mason
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It's sooo irritating

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The red matches

unkempt hatch
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Nah I’m not team orc. Doesn’t do it for me

uneven mason
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But the metal is the wrong shade

lusty grotto
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heritage looks so fucking good

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ah fuck

unkempt hatch
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My monk is an orc but wish he wasn’t

lusty grotto
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i just realized i gotta do the dwarf heritage

unkempt hatch
lusty grotto
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ok

unkempt hatch
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I don’t like it at all

uneven mason
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So that's heritage but for bp/legs which are the normal castle nath

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Which fit perfectly if you're not a fan of the spike nipple

unkempt hatch
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I’ll just change to nightborn and wear a dress around with the matching legion weapon and shield xmog

uneven mason
plush tendon
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and you got a week to get it 😦

lusty grotto
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i hav eit

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o

plush tendon
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oh you gold

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I got it a couple of weeks ago

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looks great peepoBlush

edgy locust
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is story only 4-7 ?

ionic fern
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Goddamn hope so.

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Feels like it's taking forever.

cinder nova
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Jesus how the fuck do I get ELVUI to stop ruining vehicle bars

mental scarab
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You dont deadge

uneven mason
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Imagine using elvui in 2023

lusty grotto
tidal quarry
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We still thirsting over juicy haste/crit or are we haste/vers now? (given same ilvl ofc)

lusty grotto
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you can use some of that shit

tidal quarry
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Fuck yes

cinder nova
lusty grotto
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i mean what exactly do you want

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if you want the vanilla UI bars, youre 100% screwed

uneven mason
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In the options for vehicle bars

cinder nova
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I just need ElvUI to stop eating bars to the point of being non-functional.

lusty grotto
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what does that mean

cinder nova
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It doesn't display the appropriate spells, or any.

lusty grotto
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uhh, that's odd

uneven mason
cinder nova
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That's why I'm asking what field am I putting that in.

uneven mason
lusty grotto
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the visibility state i posted was just to hide when youre in a vehicle

cinder nova
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I would've just disabled it handling Vehicle bars, but it doesn't seem to possess an option for it.

uneven mason
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The base UI is considerably better than ekv now imo, for the pure quality of life of not having to rewrite dozens of variables Incase a patch borks it

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Yeah you can't un elv those sadly

lusty grotto
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normal functionality is, it'll just replace your Bar 1 with vehicle spells

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and then swap back when you're off

uneven mason
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Which is what the base UI does

cinder nova
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Would I just dump that in a field under bar 1?

lusty grotto
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no

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you dont want to hide your bar 1

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im still confused

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actions should be in bar 1

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are you not seeing bar 1?

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what vehicle are you testing on?

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if youre on the drake, youre just gonna have to drag abilities to bar 1

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if its any other vehicle, they should be on bar 1 by default

uneven mason
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Also tuk has a discord

lusty grotto
mental scarab
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@cinder nova is bar 1 enabled?

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Made that mistake my self critcake

cinder nova
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Bar 1 is enabled. It's my main bar, why?

cinder nova
daring marlin
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I had to disable ElvUI to finish that snail quest. Garbage.

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Rollie pollie ollie iirc

lusty grotto
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the snack quest?

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but that's a special action button

daring marlin
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you burrow and knock the slimes up

cinder nova
lusty grotto
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hmm.. i didnt have issues with it

daring marlin
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It was broken with ElvUI.

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My bar was showing a net

cinder nova
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Mine too.

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And it was castable, which was weirder. The quest doesn't provide net spells.

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It gives you two dig spells and a knock up.

uneven mason
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#stopusingelv

lusty grotto
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no :madge:

daring marlin
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Can't stop using it tbh

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Even if I have to redo it every so often cuz I forget to save my settings when I uninstall 🤣

toxic pewter
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u think they will release details of 10.1.5 today

bold turret
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Not played since 1/2 way through 10.0, any playstyle changes I should know about for 10.1?

toxic pewter
#

honestly not really.. style is very similar to 10.0 if not the same

#

once we get 2 piece tier set your talents will change some prob, check pins for builds

strong forum
#

our playstyle hasnt changed since SL launch aside from not charge weaving for SB anymore

toxic pewter
#

does tier set change how we shield slam in AOE situations

strong forum
#

no

#

you still prio SS

toxic pewter
#

we always ahave anyway right

strong forum
toxic pewter
#

yeah

#

ok cool

strong forum
#

all this does, is make it even smarter to press SS

toxic pewter
#

yes

#

shield slam hittin harder than ever

dusty olive
#

any opinion on what to do with the shadowflame spark?

#

for prot that is

toxic pewter
#

a lot of people are looking to upgrade frostfire belt

lusty grotto
#

why

#

there's no new raid ring

#

that procs on fire dmg

urban bane
#

even without ring it sims best

lusty grotto
#

lol jesus christ

#

ok

urban bane
#

:)

toxic pewter
#

was buffed like 110% apparently iirc

lusty grotto
#

still happy with my decision

misty moss
lusty grotto
#

NO BRO

#

FROSTFIRE BELT

#

lmaoooo

toxic pewter
#

I mean shield is prob most sensible ya but I guess when it comes to embellishments I should of said earlier when i said frostfire belt is most popular

lusty grotto
#

well that's a very important clarification

toxic pewter
#

also depends on waht i get in vault

unkempt hatch
#

Shooooot

lusty grotto
#

it also depends if you have broodkeeper shield

unkempt hatch
#

I forgot to craft my 405 frost fire belt before 10.1

#

Now I have to use the new spark to craft it. Damn

dusty olive
lusty grotto
#

yes on mythic

#

the crafted one is 424 with the new spark

urban bane
#

fwiw i probs plan on doin a shield first, too. but yea, ffbelt is good.

dusty olive
#

so we can basically agree, that the first to upgrades are gonna be belt and shield, yeah? 😄

unkempt hatch
#

My shield is currently 405 so probs should do that first

dusty olive
#

two*

lusty grotto
#

nope

#

my first 2 will be shield then weapon

#

i already swapped sparks on shield

#

there's no real go to

#

but if youve been playing warrior for a long time you know

#

shield is always the most powerful defensive upgrade

#

weapon is almost always the most powerful offensive upgrade

#

that last one usually applies to all melee

#

the faster i have a crafted weapon, the faster i mald when i dont get forgestorm ever from vault

#

more time malding guaranteed

dusty olive
#

ok, cant argue with that

lusty grotto
#

i didnt get a single 421 weapon this season

#

it is what it is

#

i ran 8 nok one week and didnt do anything else

modern brook
#

Wb

lusty grotto
#

absolutely nothing in that vault, strike twice never

lusty grotto
dusty olive
#

the crafted weapon is 421 now?^^ so that compensates kinda

modern brook
#

No 😦

lusty grotto
#

well cant you still get it

modern brook
#

Prolly

modern brook
#

Dams just low in the group tbh

lusty grotto
#

rough

#

well my swap to dorf should be done, let me check

modern brook
#

Shitll never be done bro that'll take years

lusty grotto
#

what the fuck

#

it was processing and now its giving me the option to do it again?

misty moss
#

My plan is to upgrade my shield first get it to 447 and do Shadowflame embellishment immediately, then week 3 get Belt at 447 and replace my lariat with a filler, then week 5 get crafted neck Torc of passing time.

lusty grotto
#

i hate blizzard

dusty olive
#

that actually makes 0 sense lol

#

since they want us to do crossfaction anyhow

dusty olive
left basalt
#

Anyone else go crazy with keys this last season?

toxic pewter
#

that a lot of valor

misty moss
unkempt hatch
#

Belt sims the highest for dps increase, but tankiness doesn’t sim so I’ll probably upgrade shield

sage hearth
#

Opinions please: Whats better for prot pushing higher 20+ keys, Mechagnome or Kul Tiran?

misty moss
#

Yeah primal molten defender with shadow flame patch seems like a really good starting point

unkempt hatch
#

I didn’t know we could throw that on there. That might be my nice

#

Move*

tropic tangle
misty moss
mighty valley
#

Of those two I'd play Kul Tiran to wear a cool jacket + make sure my team can actually see where I am

unkempt hatch
#

Raid bots let’s you put the shadow flame patch on shield

sick sentinel
#

i only did 36k (valor)

plush tendon
#

and thats 0 to do with racials

#

its all about looks

toxic pewter
#

Everyone will say just play dwarf, but I believe you should play whatever you enjoy most

cinder nova
#

Dwarf is probably the best for pushing high keys.

#

Having a self-purge is huge.

plush tendon
#

Dwarf is a S tier warrior race not including the racial

#

but so is Orc

misty moss
cinder nova
#

I got over orc a while ago.

#

How do we get the shield recipe

#

It's the buckler, right?

plush tendon
#

depends on what type of warrior you want to be: Viking=Dwarf, Berserker=Orc, Knight=Human, Tauren=big cow dooood broooo

misty moss
cinder nova
#

I would just mail or whisper people with the FFB recipe on the AH.

#

And tell them I'd give them like, whatever their asking price was -50K

#

Right then and there.

plush tendon
cinder nova
#

Eventually after prices kept falling they caved.

plush tendon
#

obviously

daring marlin
#

Dwarf is tempting me

#

Especially with the discount!

plush tendon
#

the only way I see around the race problem.... just have more then 1 warrior

toxic pewter
sage hearth
toxic pewter
#

Oh dang interesting

cinder nova
#

Is it me or are enemy player nameplates not showing up without targeting?

urban bane
cinder nova
#

I don't have them on, but I can check.

urban bane
#

this fixed issues i was havin' with friendly ones. might be related but idk

toxic pewter
#

Are there any downsides to being in a horde guild as an alliance

plush tendon
#

you cant do qued content like heroic dungeons though

#

with Hordies

toxic pewter
#

Right

urban portal
#

That’s the endgame content

toxic pewter
#

If I switch will I need to rejoin my guild

plush tendon
#

prob

#

and you need someone in your guild on your friendslist

#

to invite you back

toxic pewter
#

I see

dusky canopy
#

How far ahead is 441 forgestorm vs 450 weapon?

#

Missed that discussion if it happened already

plush tendon
#

100 dps I think

#

and that was a 450 strike twice

dusky canopy
#

Oh that’s right I did see that convo

#

What about s2 weapons

#

Was that mentioned

icy bane
plush tendon
#

it shouldnt matter; strike twice is 100% better then S2 stat weps because of the free proc

#

assuming I level is equal

icy bane
#

447 strike twice vs 441 forge

plush tendon
#

1h only go to 447 this season yea?

icy bane
#

Yeah pretty sure

dusky canopy
#

You can’t get a strike twice though

#

I’m assuming that’s for reference

strong forum
#

yeah but the fact that 441 forgestorm beats 447 strike twice

#

speaks volumes

#

strike twice is 400-500dps better than any other 1h in the game besides forgestorm

#

so yeah, forge is bigtime ahead

plush tendon
#

do we have aoe sims?

lusty grotto
#

no worries im never getting it

#

😢

scenic mural
#

Im getting it first vault

lusty grotto
#

this'll do 😦

unkempt hatch
#

I low key want to main Ret Pally for 10.1 🙈 but I’m one of the guild tanks. 😂👀

knotty stump
#

What weapon enchant do you guys like for M+

unkempt hatch
#

The struggle is REAL

lusty grotto
#

why main when you can alt like me

#

nimchipadin doing good as ret

unkempt hatch
#

Ret is so damn fun

lusty grotto
#

it is no cap

unkempt hatch
#

I want the 2 hand from echo and be Chad dps

dusky canopy
#

Can we put shadowflame on shield?

unkempt hatch
dusky canopy
#

Well that’s shit if you can’t???

#

Wtf bliz

unkempt hatch
#

We won’t have for a min anyway

#

Drops from raid

#

Pattern that is

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
#

Bet

#

Mines going on shield then

#

Thanks nim for the info

plush tendon
#

I love how people went nuts for lariat last season

#

Now everyone’s dropping it

lusty grotto
#

i mean this happens every patch

plush tendon
#

I’m just glad I didn’t spend like 50k for my lariat craft 😅

#

At least I’m still gonna use my frostfire belt

warm plinth
#

@lusty grotto cute son of a bitch right here

icy bane
#

Eranog ring being BiS single target in S2 is giving me depression

warm plinth
#

4?

#

Oh right, annulet

icy bane
#

Looks like there are two crit haste rings so guess those would be bis for MT

lusty grotto
#

chef nimchip cute dwarfette

unkempt hatch
#

They should nerf eranog ring. I don’t want to go back and get it. Will take forever.

cinder nova
#

A lot harder to convince 20 people to do Mythic Era than just do the current raid.

lusty grotto
#

this week

naive panther
#

How do I get a bug on my paladin fixed. Submitted a report but crusading strikes is busted. And I don't want to join a paladin discord to tell them about it

lusty grotto
#

its ez

#

next week not so much

cinder nova
#

Yeah, but it's both a rare drop and it's BIS post-patch

#

So

#

Unless you already have it, the point stands.

lusty grotto
#

you have 2 tries though

#

drop and vault

cinder nova
#

Lots of people have had 2 tries for weeks.

lusty grotto
#

basically not worth it to not do it

#

gotta gamble

cinder nova
#

411 Seal isn't worth it

lusty grotto
#

we will have to see

cinder nova
#

I think you may be overestimating the number of people that care.

unkempt hatch
#

It’s gross. Who likes doing old raid tier for an item that was a bitch to get

lusty grotto
#

luckily its the very first boss

cinder nova
#

Even trying to get a TF hourglass was painful

lusty grotto
#

who is also absolute fucking cake

cinder nova
#

But that was deep in it

unkempt hatch
#

I never got a single ring drop on any of my characters on any difficulty. None in vault either.

lusty grotto
#

TF'd hourglass was way more painful

#

like infinity more painful in comparison

ionic fern
#

Lets be honest.

#

You wont improve your rank 10000 parse with 1 ring.

lusty grotto
#

y u do dis

icy bane
#

Hey my parse good gladge

unkempt hatch
#

Commin’ for blood

warm plinth
#

@lusty grotto

unkempt hatch
#

Wtf is up with the trinks in Abberus with no main stat

#

Booo

icy bane
unkempt hatch
#

Is forgestorm good or is it bait?

#

The No main stat feels icky

icy bane
#

Very good bis 1h

unkempt hatch
#

Relying on procs is never rewarding gameplay. I thought bliz knew better

urban bane
#

huh

#

maybe im being difficult but i notice every time i proc a shield slam reset :V

unkempt hatch
#

I feel like if you are unlucky and the weapon doesn’t proc it will just feel meh

urban bane
#

and that feels good

unkempt hatch
#

I just mean damage wise. Items that proc damage themselves, not rotation abilities. Things you cannot control that if you roll bad rng just feel meh

lusty grotto
#

Sal i saw you typing

#

do it

cinder nova
#

Every single time I read Nimchip's name I think it says Nimchimp and then think of Nim Chimpsky, a lab bonobo named after Noam Chomsky

#

Change your name this is a cursed existence

lusty grotto
#

what

crude notch
#

He's calling you a chimp

#

🐒

lusty grotto
#

its a good thing im not being toxichip

fluid ledge
#

nice i can run Academy in S2 still

misty moss
#

Between us. And don’t tell anyone. I think bracers of companionship getting buffed. Also, eranog ring alternatives from new m+ will be fine… but you didn’t hear it from me. Cause it’s wild speculation

unkempt hatch
#

Are those the vers bracers?

tropic gorge
#

Ah new prog system.

#

What I've gathered is. Don't buy the low token it's a waste. The middle one is only if you don't do keys.
Buy the big one cause it's the only one that matters

#

Don't @ me. You know I'm right 😉

crude notch
#

the buying portion is buying down

tropic gorge
#

Well I have to buy the first one for the tutorial. I don't know if I'll have to buy any later as I haven't really read into the system aside from the blizzard page talking about it

lusty grotto
#

i have no idea what you guys are talking about

mighty valley
#

it's still basically get the highest base drops you can and then use your resources to max them out

#

the low end stuff is for non-group gamers

lusty grotto
#

yeah basically, it seemed pretty straightforward

#

i guess i just didnt get why complicate it further

warm plinth
#

what does this mean

#

😏

#

I just logged in 😢

strong forum
#

imagine not being done with 10.1 already

#

cashul

lusty grotto
#

lol im working on alts

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

2k stones are so easy to get

#

i didnt even try

strong forum
#

im chillin on 1.5k

#

dafuq did you do

#

ive got like nothing left on map

#

yeah but i mean

#

im nowhere near 2k

#

and map empty

lusty grotto
#

chests?

astral atlas
#

The random chests?

strong forum
#

killed like 12 rares

#

i cant open any chests that i found

warm plinth
#

Nome can't read

strong forum
#

im not tryharding that hard lmao

warm plinth
#

He theorycrafts by smell

#

Literal prot war version of the pinball wizard

strong forum
#

i did

lusty grotto
#

i dont think people need to try hard it

warm plinth
#

You're not my dad

strong forum
#

fuck

#

rep

#

couldnt care less

lusty grotto
#

this is some classic try-harding

strong forum
#

theres no point in min-maxing rep

lusty grotto
#

i did that with rep in 10.0

#

didnt amount to shit

#

same with sabellian/wrathion

#

didnt amount to shit

warm plinth
#

pls let moo play how he wants

#

even if he is wrong

strong forum
#

people gonna min-max all this rep and flightstone stuff, but then slack on just playing well

lusty grotto
#

agreed

tropic tangle
#

if you aren't nolifing for that Enchanted Wyrm Crest this week, wouldn't worry about 10% rep 🙂

#

but that's just me

lusty grotto
#

im just doing the campaign shit only on alts

warm plinth
#

You can get a wyrm crest this week? I assume renown based?

tropic tangle
#

20 renown with Loam

lusty grotto
#

that is like ~ 1k easy

tropic tangle
#

I'm not even sure there's enough to get there in 1 week, do rares give rep every kill?

strong forum
#

im like 18? with loam

devout pollen
#

20 renown lol

strong forum
#

min 17, i saw that popup

#

randomly

warm plinth
devout pollen
#

Is it not done at the same rate as current major ones?

#

I wasn’t paying attention last night

tropic tangle
#

most of the rep I have with them came from the rep items

#

and I'm only 1850 into rank 4

lusty grotto
#

i have no idea what im at

warm plinth
#

guys can you please calm down, I'm trying to sell timeshares here

loud wave
#

Won't it be better to use Crit/Haste gems since You are running Crit in every Item slot ?

strong forum
#

its a tiny dps upgrade

#

opted to use bigger haste gems for the sake QoL and tiny defensive gain

lavish copper
#

Anyone else feeling like m+ is way harder this week?

#

shit is hitting way harder at 20 than last week

warm plinth
#

That's because it is

strong forum
#

90% chance its copium

daring marlin
warm plinth
#

The 25% player health/enemy damage thing already went in, and healers are probably not prepared for it.

strong forum
#

shit does 25% more dmg, you have 25% more hp

daring marlin
#

At least the healer I had was struggling.

strong forum
#

and its fort and not tyr

#

the rest is placebo

scenic mural
#

Fort raging lul

lavish copper
#

The group i normally do it with was finding everything was way harder

crude notch
#

you're placebo

strong forum
#

its new raging

warm plinth
#

It's the new raging @scenic mural

lavish copper
#

raging only does cc now, not damage

scenic mural
#

Ahh then easy affix

daring marlin
scenic mural
#

Didnt even realizd

crude notch
#

it's okay reading is hard for bears

warm plinth
#

But yeah, every fort week we have people coming in here asking why keys are so hard

scenic mural
#

Truuuuue

daring marlin
#

FWIW I was fine in my key--the group tho...

oak echo
#

it is actually the new raging? i saw the tooltip but thought maybe it was just bugged on the M+ tab

warm plinth
#

Yes, it's the new raging

grim pilot
#

what's the dif

lavish copper
#

I've been doing 20's for 2 months now, this week actually feels harder

urban bane
warm plinth
#

Old one was a damage increase below 30%, new one is CC immunity below 30%

grim pilot
#

lol so that's why I got casually oneshotted by voidspawn when I had cd on def

#

or killed within 1 sec from swd

warm plinth
#

🤔

stuck terrace
#

is there an aoe one?

daring marlin
strong forum
#

aoe would just be swap rings to big haste/crit rings

#

maybe swap out beacon for another stat trinket like ominous essence or black dragonscale

strong forum
#

but thats just a sim thing

#

gnoll flare from m+ dungeons is also not super terrible but uh nothing great either

#

basically all trinkets from m+ are pretty whack,aside from tree mouth splinter defensively, again only raid has good ones

lusty grotto
#

stupid raiding

daring marlin
#

Guess I gotta slam them pugs this tier

lusty grotto
craggy pilot
#

Did anyone figure any strat for farming fast flightstones week1?

daring marlin
#

yeah bro

#

go derp around in the area

#

You get hella flightstones

craggy pilot
#

From rares?

lusty grotto
#

sure

craggy pilot
#

And how many do i get from fx +16 key?

lusty grotto
#

you get them from everything

#

everywhere

#

you dont even have to be in the caverns

misty moss
lusty grotto
#

rares/wqs/treasures everything drops it

craggy pilot
#

So i could just farm in +16 for fligtstones

lusty grotto
#

i think so yea

craggy pilot
#

Just thinking about any fastest way, because i potentially need 2000 flightstones on 7 characters 🤔🤔

daring marlin
#

you need jesus, more like

lusty grotto
#

i mean ive done 3

daring marlin
#

respectfully

lusty grotto
#

just did campaign and got like 1300 to 1500 on each

crude notch
#

Wait do they drop from S1 keys?

misty moss
#

How big is the gap between Frostfire vs bracers of Vers now @strong forum based on the 110% change

loud wave
#

What ilvl items will drop from vault on next reset ( start of season 2 )

daring marlin
#

S1 items

urban bane
#

next week's vault will be a s1 vault

craggy pilot
#

@lusty grotto is it mostly the main quests or also the side quests?

lusty grotto
#

i do the campaign and everything that's around the campaign

#

including chests and sidequests if they are in front of me

daring marlin
#

you guys are wild

#

I did one character and thought yes, this is good for now

lusty grotto
#

it helps my characters are geared

craggy pilot
#

Still didn't decide what toon I'm maining

lusty grotto
#

i dont think ill do this on non-geared chars

craggy pilot
#

Guess I'll look a bit at the tier sets tomorrow

daring marlin
#

I only have two geared characters tbh.

lusty grotto
#

i have other shit to do, i dont wanna no-life WoW for this dumb currency

craggy pilot
#

I have like 5 🙈

tropic tangle
daring marlin
#

DK and Warlock are around 390ish

tropic tangle
#

I started a second char through campaign and gave up real fast

crude notch
#

Oh snap discord is getting rid of discriminators and making everyone swap to usernames

craggy pilot
#

But probably gonna do 2000 flightstones on 2 characters, and call it a week

mighty valley
#

yeah seems real silly

crude notch
#

this the important part.

All users will become eligible to update their usernames over the coming weeks. Users will become eligible to update their usernames based on the age of their Discord account. The older your Discord account is, the sooner you will be eligible to change your username. When you are eligible to update your username, we will notify you in the app.

lusty grotto
#

tencent owns part of discord

#

idk

#

seems like a move to properly identify people

#

positive (like they say, for connecting people together) and negative (cough selling data to the CCP)

#

and i guess identifying criminals/leakers LOL

crude notch
#

How long has discord been around who gets first dibs. 2015 seems a bit ago

vivid orchid
#

made my account around then so i guess me

crude notch
#

It was 2015

#

so

#

yeah all you 2015 people get first dibs

shut summit
#

👴

misty moss
#

👍🏼 nice

mighty valley
lusty grotto
daring marlin
#

lol

mighty valley
#

"when you're hanging out at a party without your phone and someone wants you to say your discord username from memory and then add you as a friend when you get home? that scenario is pretty tough right now"

crude notch
#

idgaf

lusty grotto
#

to be fair

#

that's kinda accurate

vivid orchid
#

...do people even do that

lusty grotto
#

sure?

#

thre's nothing inherently wrong with it

#

people game, its a mainstream thing now lol

mighty valley
#

seems alien to me but idk

#

this just seems counter to the username trends of the past decae

#

decade

daring marlin
#

My account is almost from 2015

lusty grotto
#

even more so now that discord is properly implemented on consoles

#

except i guess switch

#

though i havent really checked, i only use mine for zelda and pokemon

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

yes it works well on PS5

#

and has been on XBOX for a while

daring marlin
#

I haven't played on a console in a minute.

lusty grotto
#

2 of my static in ffxiv are on ps5, and use it

daring marlin
#

Last one is my Destiny edition PS4 😂

lusty grotto
#

as in they no longer rely on having a separate laptop or whatever

daring marlin
#

That's kinda neat. I had someone in mine but they were using their phone for it...???

lusty grotto
#

yea

daring marlin
#

That was like five months ago tho

lusty grotto
#

so they still kinda have to use their phones to "swap the call to console"

#

or some bs like that

#

but after they do that it works without a hitch

#

sadly soundboards are still not supported

#

but that'll happen sooner or later

daring marlin
#

I just wanna keep my name ZOOMEReyes

mighty valley
#

ultimately your username will be buried beneath your display name

#

which will be buried beneath your server nickname where allowed

#

just gonna be a minor annoyance when i pick "h4rr0w" or something equally obnoxious

fervent cliff
#

any word on whether prot is a drogbar rock trinket enjoyer?

lusty grotto
#

honestly it seems like a pretty backwards change

vivid orchid
#

it is when taken in a larger picture

#

this stuff was made more fluid for a reason

lusty grotto
#

im just trying to figure out why it would be good as a software dev

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

and i really cant

strong forum
#

Drogbar what trinket?

#

The stone tablet garbage?

crude notch
#

It's gonna be exceptionally brutal this late into it's popularity, no one is gonna be able to claim their name.

daring marlin
#

I think he's talking about the damage absorb one

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per target

vivid orchid
strong forum
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Stone tablet is absolute dogwater

rough solar
strong forum
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2ppm + haste

fervent cliff
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its grieftorch level on havoc, and fury seems to like it too

strong forum
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Meh

lusty grotto
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depends on the backend/storage

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uuids/DB ids etc

vivid orchid
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thats pretty much exactly what it is - you can request your discord data and its quite clear at that point

strong forum
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Looks like it's just a different whetstone

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Is that a wq item?

fervent cliff
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whetstone is pretty good 🙂

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yea