the final hall of that dungeon will be cancer on storming/sanguine weeks also, and that frog boss by nature of it being a pepega
#protection
sick sentinel
warm plinth
Halls of Infusion is a garbage ass dungeon. It's gonna be one of the two I can see being major pug killers
sick sentinel
lotta people quickly lose faith if they die to somthing dumb like a huge frog
there like what the hells going on, i just got killed by a frog?
warm plinth
There's some really nasty trash in that dungeon too
the whole gauntlet is pretty shit. There's a lot of dragons
sick sentinel
probably invis shit for mdi
warm plinth
I'm not 100% but I am pretty sure the dragons have true sight
sick sentinel
after frog i think u can invis past some dragons
im pretty sure i remember rogue doing it
warm plinth
I could be wrong for sure. Only been in there a couple times and not always on stealth class
jagged pier
put revenge on your bar and make thunderclap and shield slam easier buttons to press
sick sentinel
put revenge on your bar and make thunderclap and shield slam easier buttons to p...
👍
warm plinth
Oh I didn't even realize revenge wasn't there XD
sick sentinel
Haha yea I looked at icy veins and that was the mythic plus build they showed me but I didn’t know the rotation for it
I changed it around
warm plinth
Rend and Slam don't need to be there
sick sentinel
Change slam with revenge?
woeful bramble
Ok that's great tbh
warm plinth
Change slam with revenge?
No, revenge would be replacing whirlwind. Your most commonly used abilities are Shield Slam, Thunder Clap, Revenge, Shield Block, and Ignore Pain. Those are the ones that should be the easiest to hit. Demo Shout, Avatar, Ravager, Shield Charge, and Thunderous Roar (once you have them all) should be the next easiest since you use those on CD. Pummel should also be quite easy to hit since it's your interrupt.
Ideally you put Ignore Pain on a button that's easy to hit in combination with other buttons; it's off-GCD so being able to hit it at the same time as other stuff is a plus.
You will never press Slam, and we cast Rend via Thunder Clap, so you will never need it separately on your bar.
warm plinth
That's better. Are you actually pressing 7-= on your keyboard? O_o
sick sentinel
12 bottom mouse
warm plinth
what about the top row?
warm plinth
😬
sick sentinel
Yea not very good at it
warm plinth
We are FAR too fast-paced a spec for clicking to be even somewhat realistic. We're like the 2nd fastest spec in the game right now.
uneven mason
We are FAR too fast-paced a spec for clicking to be even somewhat realistic. We...
Was first but then cocaine bear got that in game tie in.
Toi bear doesn't even have the limit of how to spend rage, they can literally just hammer on ironfur at 88mph
warm plinth
Yeah not many are playing that anymore though I don't think. Nocarn is more popular I believe since they capped ToI at 4 stacks
uneven mason
Yeah not many are playing that anymore though I don't think. Nocarn is more pop...
Toi is still easiest and top dps
But you sacrifice a lot of defensive kit to lean on it
Which is fine until something like a +20 tjs lady jade
But that's the issue with bears all in all, people slapping ironfur like they're playing g-darius and getting clapped by a magic tankbuster while a real bear knows this is time for rots or pulv and giggling
Then of course "fix bears magic defensive abilities" while they've literally got 45% uptime on a 30% Dr, 12?% passive Dr, and short timers on another 25% or 35% and then a 50% on top... but bears need help
warm plinth
Oh yeah we love the "bears are weak against magic damage" argument
I think Dreamgrove has a meme about that actually
urban portal
they all say that
any tank that isnt viable is "weak against magic damage"
the only time that argument is valid is the raz cleave thing
slim dove
Then of course "fix bears magic defensive abilities" while they've literally got...
i feel like you know very little about the state of guardian rn
crude notch
Oh, do enlighten
strong forum
slim dove
entire spec is shoehorned into either being a livelord and doing 0 dps/contributing nothing which doesn't work in this expansion at all, or doing giga damage but flopping the second so much as a single tankbuster touches you
talent tree is a bloated mess of mandatory talents because the spec innately is so weak
crude notch
There isn't a 0 DPS livelord build.
The biggest thing Bear is missing compared to every other tank is a cheese ability.
strong forum
Having any niche whatsoever
warm plinth
Their niche is having cool models with shit animations and sound effects
strong forum
Don't have any case where you'd go "yeah bear is good vs this" it's just mediocre at everything
crude notch
So they're either forced to make Bear live against everything. Which they won't do.
Or give them something that's cheese. Which they also won't do.
slim dove
Their niche is having cool models with shit animations and sound effects
bruh i swear every bear using the garbage mage tower model is going to drive me up the wall
crude notch
Imagine caring what others do aesthetically
strong forum
Bears are rare enough to not be considered basic anything
warm plinth
bruh i swear every bear using the garbage mage tower model is going to drive me ...
I like the mage tower model but I generally don't play with it as guardian because it's just too big
crude notch
Don't have any case where you'd go "yeah bear is good vs this" it's just mediocr...
Hey Skip Leg Day Bear is getting animation updates in 10.1
sick sentinel
Ok I got the hekili add on to help me with my rotation and that makes it a lot better
slim dove
I like the mage tower model but I generally don't play with it as guardian becau...
the guardian i play with uses size enhancers every time we run
warm plinth
I would murder him
slim dove
bro is just an endless spazz of thrash animations
strong forum
Playing large models is literally anti fun
warm plinth
RIP Bergy Blackheart amirite 😦
slim dove
he thinks its funny but he also plays high
warm plinth
Yo let's push but I'm going to be severely impaired the entire time and make dumb mistakes
cerulean tusk
To be fair, next patch, guardian druid will be the king of HP size and HPS intake
That is a cool niche, no?
slim dove
considering HPS is a non-issue, sure
crude notch
They still won't have the largest health pool
strong forum
Tfw bear stuck in tbc
slim dove
the 950k hp DH is awfully 0 fun to heal though
crude notch
Well especially right now since souls are bugged
cerulean tusk
I can't wait for my druidboy to be a biggest boy. My healthpool will be so big that nothing will touch it!
warm plinth
Imagine the shittiest tank spec getting their core mechanic legit just...broken
slim dove
i gave up inviting anything but prot pals
warm plinth
Blizz either needs to just delete VDH or give them a ret-style rework. Like come on man
cerulean tusk
i gave up inviting anything but prot pals
Not even prot warrior BDKs? Madlad
strong forum
99% of bdks play the wrong build so it's valid to not invite them
slim dove
why bother, prot pal does more dps, deals with every mech flawlessly, can save dps everytime they stand in bad
warm plinth
I see BDKs fairly regularly that aren't running shattered bone and I cringe
crude notch
Ouch
strong forum
Hey let's just miss out on 20% damage lol
cerulean tusk
Blizz either needs to just delete VDH or give them a ret-style rework. Like com...
VDH works pretty much as intended no? You go in, fight for 10 sec, then you leg it and kite until ready again.
You got plenty of tools to do great AoE ranged damage, so you never lose threat.
Fun?
strong forum
Im a tank lol
warm plinth
Yeah lol.
slim dove
i haven't tanked on pwar in months but healing its very noticeable. how smooth ppal makes shit rn
strong forum
Need runetap and UE lol
warm plinth
VDH works pretty much as intended no? You go in, fight for 10 sec, then you leg ...
no tank is intended to kite
strong forum
Otherwise I die lol
cerulean tusk
DH is the kite tank tho
cerulean tusk
Hey, it worked
strong forum
When nobody could facetank
Besides bear
But nobody played bear so they didn't know
warm plinth
They were the kite tank in S1 of Shadowlands when everyone was a kite tank because they were the only tank who could maintain threat while kiting
cerulean tusk
Exactly, they still can do that
warm plinth
Should we talk about how that isn't how tanks should function in modern WoW?
cerulean tusk
Less complaining, more kiteing. If ya dont wanna kite, go warrior and be stonk.
Sure, we can argue a bit about it
crude notch
Good old target dummy meta
cerulean tusk
My argument: It is a very unique style of tanking vs being a dummy - it is also unique, so some people will enjoy it.
slim dove
except its not how the game is clearly meant to be played.
warm plinth
Except literally no one is going to kite because it's moronic.
crude notch
And you had target dummies
cerulean tusk
Hey, just saying it would be neat if it was by design for one class
warm plinth
No it wouldn't
slim dove
no
crude notch
No it wouldn't
wind oak
fuck tank kiting
cerulean tusk
Why not? You could play other classes that dont
strong forum
The sad part is
wind oak
remember that they did some melee spell to fuck the melee if tank was kiting ?
cerulean tusk
It doesnt hurt you, it just causes more options
warm plinth
Because DPS exist and you'd be pulling mobs away from melee the entire time and out of Area of Effect damage...
crude notch
It doesnt hurt you, it just causes more options
Because you can't do that in raid
cerulean tusk
Who are talking about raids?
warm plinth
remember that they did some melee spell to fuck the melee if tank was kiting ?
Those don't really exist anymore. I think there's like one in current content
And you have to be like 20 yards away for it to happen
wind oak
yeah they dont exist anymore
cerulean tusk
Trust, Jordan, trust.
cerulean tusk
VDH the kitetank, coming to you, soon
will be BiS too, and you are forced to play it
crude notch
Please cease typing
cerulean tusk
DH can play while running tho, with sigils and all abilities being semiranged
wind oak
yeah sure
slim dove
soul cleave/fracture are not ranged
wind oak
gtfo
strong forum
1 or 2 spell still fervent
Haunting gaze in TJS, and void slash when they're on the stairs
cerulean tusk
So we argue sigils gotta be buffed, so DH can kite more efficently, ok
strong forum
specifically on the stairs
cerulean tusk
Wait, they are feverent?
warm plinth
It's not that they need to be buffed, it's that they're unreachable in the talent tree
wind oak
one of the top pushing team in rio
cerulean tusk
That explains so much.
wind oak
got a VDH
warm plinth
I think mortal hew does that too
wind oak
and he doesnt kite like a little bitch
warm plinth
The fervent on the stairs shit
cerulean tusk
Oh thought it was a targeted blast, just got hit by it once and was very confused
Used to tanking it, as DPS it came as a ??
strong forum
Void slash is usually targeted, but on the stairs it fervents cuz it bugs out
cerulean tusk
Will keep it in mind, decent info
cerulean tusk
yarp
Know of mortalhew, I played in a key with a tank running in circles around them once
360noscope hews
cerulean tusk
warm plinth
Yeah my tank was doing the double pull by the doors going into the hall and I got hit by mortal hew despite being decisively behind the mob
strong forum
Sniped @viral arch a few times
warm plinth
The real power play in Halls is to move the Ragnarok shield just a bit so you get someone ticked
crude notch
Sniped <@228482044030746635> a few times
As God intended.
crude notch
The real power play in Halls is to move the Ragnarok shield just a bit so you ge...
Or forget about picking up the shield altogether
slim dove
nah use it early so people know its coming
crude notch
Who would do something like that. Not me!
slim dove
give them time to think about it
warm plinth
I'm kinda still salty about them making it so you can't immune the felblaze rush with shield anymore
Only works on the initial damage now 😦
Used to be nice to do it right at the last second so you could immune the rush if it happened at the end
cerulean tusk
Ye, that is why you used to delay it to 0.1sec
I remember. Now all you can do is LoS it
warm plinth
I'm sad we don't get to chase the dog in FH anymore in S2.
wait what?
crude notch
Yeah they got rid of the council o' captains rp
daring marlin
Why am I surprised the Rogue liked that part
warm plinth
LISTEN MAN
daring marlin
warm plinth
I played a havoc DH in BFA sir
crude notch
Yeah you'll just shroud to the boss and pull the entire area
daring marlin
SUUUUUUUUUUUUURE
warm plinth
see?
warm plinth
I even have video evidence
daring marlin
...slappyfists? whatevs
warm plinth
I assume you mean slappers
daring marlin
yar
warm plinth
Unguent Caress
warm plinth
I did have one of those I think
I bought a Mythic Ra-den kill with a few traders and got giga lucky
daring marlin
I played Ret and Arms in S4. fun times
warm plinth
I actually hated rogue in BFA. Never really cared much for sin or sub and outlaw was just a casino spec
Just non-stop fuckin RtB
crude notch
Yes I remember the one outlaw key I did in BfA where I rolled all dungeon never getting 5buff
Good times
sick sentinel
Ok I think I got the idea of the rotation now
crude notch
Heck yeah
warm plinth
Yes I remember the one outlaw key I did in BfA where I rolled all dungeon never ...
Yeah and the fact it was a DPS increase to just keep rolling instead of pressing Dispatch 🙃
crude notch
🙂
strong forum
crude notch
Havoc was fun af in BfA though.
warm plinth
Yeah I really enjoyed it
strong forum
It was alright
warm plinth
I liked the skill expression in like helping the tank dodge mechanics and shit
strong forum
But your dmg breakdown in s3/s4 was just wrong
warm plinth
It was fun
crude notch
Lol
strong forum
Havoc is bis when momentum is the go-to playstyle
warm plinth
Hard disagree
strong forum
If havoc doesn't play momentum it's not fun spec
warm plinth
Momentum is trash and it should burn in hell
crude notch
Momentum is puke
strong forum
Momentum havoc is peak design
warm plinth
Momentum/unbound chaos is why I stopped playing havoc
strong forum
That's when I picked havoc back up
Fucking eye beam spam puke build is so awful
Legit 0 Engagement
Just spam 1 button
crude notch
Speaking of Havoc. I wish I still had a clip of that havoc that depleted a hard mode carry of mechagon because they fel rushed off the final platform before even pulling the boss.
warm plinth
God I love that fucking clip
"Okay so this is what I'm going to do" fel rushes off platform
daring marlin
My only regret in s4 BFA was not playing FDK. Looked so fun!
warm plinth
deathly silent chat
The best part is that as havoc you didn't even have to fel rush to get both 
strong forum
My regret in s4 bfa was being involved in tank communities
daring marlin
Oh god
strong forum
And the regret continues to this day
crude notch
My regret in s4 bfa was being involved in tank communities
Vers amp for 15s, right?
strong forum
I got flamed by a healer in a +20 on vdh for not running vers amps
safe shale
Anyone been having problems with Spell reflect not working on 3rd boss in Temple?? Like it usually reflects first time but then doesn't work after that
warm plinth
I got outDPSed on the 2nd boss of Motherlode several times by my VDH tank
Because his TD just popped the fuck off
warm plinth
Speaking of that. Do you upload from a recording or do you export from twitch?
strong forum
Fun to see my firemage complain cuz I blew his pack up with my TD so his ignite went out the window
Export
Im way too lazy to manually do shit lol
warm plinth
I've been having issues with my exports not processing all the way to source. They seem to be capping at 720p for some reason
strong forum
Skill issue idk
strong forum
It's a refined skill
daring marlin
My favorite was when you would just will the TD to arc into the exact way mobs were positioned.
strong forum
Or when it would proc off of charge/heroic throw and go into nowhere.
daring marlin
warm plinth
kek
uneven mason
Or when it would proc off of charge/heroic throw and go into nowhere.
This is the best feeling
What's that....oh ok that's 7% of my damage being lit like tissue into the ether
strong forum
Pah
Switch that mastery with haste
Then you got my build
Up to 5 different haste procs on gear
150% haste during peak alignment
warm plinth
Wrists are overrated amirite
daring marlin
My Warrior had the same
.75 GCD was wild
Corruptions were stupid fun lol
When you could buy 'em anyway
strong forum
Not wrong
daring marlin
If they ever get to a classic BFA they should just have 'em all unlocked off the bat
not rotating, just buy 'em
strong forum
Classic always launches on the last patch
daring marlin
It still rotated weekly at the end, no?
strong forum
Well the vendor
daring marlin
Like what you could buy
strong forum
Sure
urban portal
yeah his dad works at blizzard
sick sentinel
someone said it in chat i believ
nvm i don't have reading comprehension
or didnt pay attention
warm plinth
If it's the guy I'm thinking of, he was just saying it was funny that a talent called sidearm is on the side of the tree
sick sentinel
coral umbra
Is the big toe Trinket from SMB good for keys. That trinket, grief torch and whetstone all sim about the same
warm plinth
It's decent. Not a lot of amazing trinkes from M+
coral umbra
I have all the haste mastery. So my stats are just messed up for keys
uneven mason
RWS is the most amazing gudboi
uneven mason
I have all the haste mastery. So my stats are just messed up for keys
Stats don't matter
Ilvl matters
coral umbra
405 ilvl is still rough
urban portal
i love how yogi just ignores everything people tell him
except for things that are wrong
daring marlin
crude notch
warm plinth
grizzled kite
Also below that line I said "the developers taking the piss" or something
since it's on the side of the talent, called sidearm
but yes my dad works at Blizz
warm plinth
Daddy Ion?
grizzled kite
warm plinth
Ion calling it like it is
toxic pewter
Love Ion and I actively dislike any Ion haters tbh
daring marlin
Love Ion and I actively dislike any Ion haters tbh
Agreed.
warm plinth
I have no real opinion of the guy one way or the other.
grizzled kite
Me neither, he's not a one man army developing this game.
And he's got bosses too
I'd say he's done really well with this expansion
balmy canyon
What spec do you guys like as an alt tank? I like the smooth damage intake of prot where health only really drops low on rare occasions
warm plinth
Are you asking like...as prot mains which tank we would play as a secondary tank?
modern brook
i prefer the crisp taste of budlight
grizzled kite
BrM is nice
balmy canyon
Yah, what do you guys like as an alt character for yourself
warm plinth
i prefer the crisp taste of budlight
but how do you handle the rainbow on the can?!?!?!?
modern brook
well my sexuality is as fluid as bud lites can
warm plinth
Yah, what do you guys like as an alt character for yourself
I play pwar and ppal
sick sentinel
crude notch
wtf
sick sentinel
i fear no man, but that thing, it scares me
sick sentinel
its if you know you know
warm plinth
I dig it though
sick sentinel
arent we all
crude notch
nah i'm perfectly normal
warm plinth
J is the normalest normal that ever normaled
sick sentinel
what, we are tanks here right
what if there was a main battle tank outside your home at this very instance trying to shoot your gaming pc
warm plinth
meh, shoot away
sick sentinel
crude notch
cocaine is a helluva drug
sick sentinel
the games im more used to playing are "bang, shit" games
warm plinth
I bet you're into Command & Conquer
sick sentinel
some of it, some of it is horrible
command and conquer is a very long spanning series now lore is complicated to say the least
its about kane, a man that lives forever and always comes back to prefect health whenever he dies, even after being obliterated by a beam beam of light
crude notch
SPOILERS
sick sentinel
he wants to ascend and actually suceeeds at one point
sick sentinel
then you have the other side red alerts ad thats just politically incorrect of the times
warm plinth
YOGI PLS
My brother LOVES Red Alert
I think he's been playing RA1 and 2 for like
10 years
sick sentinel
i tried to do ra2 but im too dumb to figure it all out
russian campiagn: MISSION 1, DESTROY THE PENTAGON MISSION 2 DESTROY WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS/HACK THEM
they could NEVER make a game like that in todays time
warm plinth
Ooof
sick sentinel
im way more interested in the tiberium based games
modern brook
My guy is too dumb to destroy the pentagon
grizzled kite
When the evoker dps starts pulling in an 18 trying to do MDI strats
sick sentinel
"you gotta pull like you have big cahones tank"
some random dps in a 16? hov after first boss
pulling everything for me, or well, the 2 stair packs anyway
daring marlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSvBFm_MuXw
What is happening right now
Skyhold #1
scenic mural
ill never forget the day yogi was seemingly under the influence of something, got suspended, and showed up 5 minutes later on an alt account
who has alt disc accounts lmao
warm plinth
👀
cinder nova
yogi is on a bender
sick sentinel
"Requires specalization: Goblin Engineering."
harsh light
Does blizzard seriously think it's cool to nerf pwars back to back in the beginning, and now no other tank can play high keys except ppals and nothing happens?
warm plinth
You're right, not a single tank can do high keys
stuck peak
that today? last week? or just a plot of the most recent dungeons?
warm plinth
definitely only prot pally
Those are the top keys on raider.io
here's a VDH for ya
stuck peak
I know they can do it. I think pretty much any tank can. It's just we aren't flavor of the month right now
warm plinth
I was responding to ikilyoufazt claiming that only prot paladins can do high keys now
harsh light
I mean if you thought i was saying pwars couldn't do it you are very sadly mistaken, and should try to look into other ways to read someones comment
harsh light
Yes i did, re read it then apply context clues, meaning you gotta use your head a little bit than that
warm plinth
Please explain the context I'm supposed to use to conclude you meant other tanks could do high keys?
And if you didn't mean that only prot pal can do high keys then why did you say it?
Like I'm supposed to just read your mind
harsh light
I'm not here to argue with a random bro, I'm talking about pugging wise blizz nerfed pwars early on cause no other tank had gameplay
Now it's the same with ppal
Yet nothing is happening
And had been this way for over 3wks
warm plinth
You're here to say something that is completely untrue then argue that you didn't say it apparently.
violet flume
buff back pwar imo hehe
warm plinth
I pasted your exact words. Did your little brother post it or something?
harsh light
Bruh get a life g
warm plinth
Younger siblings do be trolling sometimes
Did you expect to come in here and say nonsense and expect no one to question what you said or? I'm just failing to see your point for posting that.
We were nerfed a long time ago and we were meta for a considerable length of time following all of our nerfs. So what you say holds no weight whatsoever.
harsh light
Your here to just argue, i stated a problem blizz seen in play for m+ early on, and now they are having that problem with a dif class and nothing is happening like it did war
warm plinth
So what? Blood DK stayed overpowered for like 2 seasons. It happens all the time.
harsh light
If you didn't understand you coulda asked for clarification not tryna be captain dickhead and start arguments cause you feel empowered or something
pallid quiver
man sometimes I hate having discord open on the side; i see some dumb ass takes
warm plinth
I'm not here to argue. I'm trying to find out what your point is for saying something that's untrue and then following that up by saying you didn't say it.
Even though you clearly did.
pallid quiver
It's the old BBS classic, Ghash
harsh light
I said re read repost what i said this time since your saying something untrue now
pallid quiver
venting due to a lack of understanding and then still trying to moral grandstand
warm plinth
What did I say that's untrue?
uneven mason
If you didn't understand you coulda asked for clarification not tryna be captain...
You literally opened with a baited, bias and unfounded comment and are being scrappy because someone called you on it after trying to walk it back
scenic mural
he literally quoted you and you said he had to use context clues, despite u saying exactly what you meant lmao\
warm plinth
I'm happy to apologize if I said something untrue but I don't believe I did.
uneven mason
Go get your serotonin fix elsewhere
scenic mural
lets let yogi handle him
warm plinth
It's the old BBS classic, Ghash
what is BBS lol
uneven mason
man sometimes I hate having discord open on the side; i see some dumb ass takes
This is my entire reason for having discord
pallid quiver
early ass forums, essentially, is the idea I was using it as
uneven mason
I'm literally all 
24/7
fresh igloo
what is BBS lol
Well now I feel old lol
uneven mason
early ass forums, essentially, is the idea I was using it as
I remember those
harsh light
pallid quiver
This is one of the only Discords I can mention BBS boards in an have a decent expectation that people know what I'm talking about.
I feel old all the time
scenic mural
gigachad pfp
pallid quiver
I'm literally all <:SweatPopcorn:997088541903421550> 24/7
Some of the takes are 10/10 to read, but others are just a feeling of disgust followed by another one to the list and I carry on with my day
harsh light
You literally opened with a baited, bias and unfounded comment and are being scr...
I opened with nothing, i vented to see if others were having shitty luck getting into pugs the past few weeks take it how you want idgaf i have never came in here to start crap like folks who keep this open am day to get their fix apparently
slim dove
buff back pwar imo hehe
we need real healing checks and not just lmao kick or die shit
warm plinth
Well now I feel old lol
How old are you?
fresh igloo
Pushin' 40
pallid quiver
ghash how could you
uneven mason
I opened with nothing, i vented to see if others were having shitty luck getting...
I just got into 4 pugs on my war and another 4 on the druid tonight.
violet flume
we need real healing checks and not just lmao kick or die shit
heal checks would be very high sustained damage, otherwise it's a cooldown timing check imo
pallid quiver
i'm nearing 28 and you made me experience a generation gap moment ;-;
slim dove
heal checks would be very high sustained damage, otherwise it's a cooldown timin...
thats exactly what we need
warm plinth
I'm not saying that you didn't say the prot war nerfs were early on. That isn't the point. The point is you made a claim that NOW only prot pal can do high keys. Which is not true.
slim dove
like cathedral
uneven mason
Pushin' 40
Spring chicken
violet flume
didnt play during cathedal, i dont feel like blizz put that many massive sustained tank damage fight sin the game genrally though
fresh igloo
Spring chicken
Tell that to decades of arthritis haha
harsh light
I'm not saying that you didn't say the prot war nerfs were early on. That isn't...
Once again you misread and are ignoring what i was trying to clear up
warm plinth
Okay
violet flume
i do remember solo tanking last phase on botanist in legion, that was one hell of a sustained damage phase
fresh igloo
Once again you misread and are ignoring what i was trying to clear up
Nah dude you're just kinda being bad at communicating
Or purposefully trolling.
slim dove
i do remember solo tanking last phase on botanist in legion, that was one hell o...
im speaking purely dungeons
harsh light
Nah dude you're just kinda being bad at communicating
Explain how
fresh igloo
Because literally what you say you then say isn't what you meant.
warm plinth
Can we walk through this post rq?
Does Blizzard seriously think it's okay to nerf prot war early on (edited here to add your early on clarification), and now no other tank can play high keys except ppal and nothing happens?
fresh igloo
And then being aggro with people who try to respond to what you actually said.
slim dove
is there a way to see keys completed by what spec within a certain key range
uneven mason
Tell that to decades of arthritis haha
It's even better when football takes out your knee at 19 and construction destroys a shoulder at 22
slim dove
what top 100 players do doesn't matter much
harsh light
Now add the pug part
warm plinth
You can look at like 10+, 15+, 20+, 25+
Add what pug part
You didn't say anything about pugs in that post
warm plinth
Yeah I posted that right away when he said it
fresh igloo
It's even better when football takes out your knee at 19 and construction destro...
Military medical discharge here. Ain't life fun
slim dove
on rdruid, ppal noticeably makes a run easier then pwar
harsh light
I've clarified what my original comment was meant for a few comments later
But now one is apparently seeing that
warm plinth
Can you point me to that? Because I didn't see that
uneven mason
Ghash - remember why you have the handle you do now on skyhold, I feel this is that sort of hopeless
warm plinth
All I read was you basically saying you didn't say what you said and pretending I was supposed to read your mind using "context clues" that didn't exist.
harsh light
It was the argue with randoms comment
I did not think it necessary to create a draft to vent,
Obviously my mistake
I should have would have been e
Way less a headache
warm plinth
I would've been more than happy to listen to you vent if you had said something that was true like "man this sucks, it's so hard to get into pugs now that we're not meta anymore"
Like that I would've been like yeah that sucks dude
But you said something completely nonsensical and then got defensive when I pointed out that it wasn't true
harsh light
My whole original vent, was my experience not getting into pugs for 24s/25s the past few weeks, because people only want ppals
uneven mason
I did not think it necessary to create a draft to vent,
We're all about facts here, so perhaps you need to adjust your objective key levels as getting declined from pugs leads me to believe you may be reaching above what your w/l ratio is telling the people doing invites
slim dove
thats generally a true statement looking at raider io.
warm plinth
Yeah, that does suck. It's never fun being the recently displaced meta tank because there's a huge shift
Especially in the higher keys, the meta swaps hella fast
slim dove
the vast majority of 25+ keys are being ran with ppal rn.
harsh light
I'm 3095 i have all 23s done tyran
uneven mason
Yeah, that does suck. It's never fun being the recently displaced meta tank bec...
This is why we don't reroll meta
slim dove
play warlock if you always wanna be meta kekw
warm plinth
I just really enjoy how people can still take an incredibly easy tank (prot pal) and play it like absolute garbage
But then, they were doing prot warrior like that and I don't think pwar has ever been easier
uneven mason
play warlock if you always wanna be meta kekw
Generally priest warlock hunter rogue are safe bets
harsh light
We're all about facts here, so perhaps you need to adjust your objective key lev...
I've made comments here before, never had to create a entire rough draft, usually when someone doesn't understand the ask for clarity not jumping down someone immediately
fresh igloo
I was debating between pally and warrior before DF and I just didn't care for how prot pally felt.
So ended up on warrior.
Haven't tried since the re work
warm plinth
Well, prot pally didn't change a huge amount. The only semi-significant difference is that there's no holy power minigame now
uneven mason
I mean ppal was buggy but strong and had some gameplay with how dusk dawn worked, now you literally blow wings and press whatever the fuck lights up
warm plinth
Yep
I enjoy both protection specs though. I think both have really well done animations and sound effects and are very rawr crash bang in their own flavor
That's the official term btw
fresh igloo
Lol
uneven mason
Can't beat my bears broken left leg since wotlk
fresh igloo
The what lol
uneven mason
I fucking despise gorilla form
warm plinth
Harambear, the gorilla bear forms lol
fresh igloo
I don't think I've seen that haha
uneven mason
I'd trade that crap for the ability to wear hats in bear
fresh igloo
Oohhh
uneven mason
Supposed to be werebear
fresh igloo
Some people love it
warm plinth
It was a fairly common term back when mage tower first came out I think
uneven mason
But looks like a gorilla that skipped leg day
fresh igloo
Thought you meant something new
warm plinth
in Legion
fresh igloo
Yeah I never heard that one before lulz
warm plinth
Because it was only like 6 months after he got shot
fresh igloo
Guess I was slacking on my druid memes during legion
uneven mason
Warriors got a badass tribal bone shield and flail, bears got - the grape ape
fresh igloo
Spam, span, whatevs
uneven mason
I'm college I took narcotics because it was fun, now I take them to not throw people out windows
NGL though the community perception for ppal is hanky
You see it bleed into all tiers legit had a hpal join my druids key and be like "you want me to go prot if you have a resto setup?" No you spindly elfasshat all I want to make these DPS cry and slap IF like a hummingbird
fresh igloo
Lol
Gotta love people thinking meta matters in like 15 and under keys too
Just chill out y'all
This is why I almost never pug.
violet flume
even at 20, if you dont wipe and dps pumps youll overtime generously
uneven mason
TFW you have a devoker at 411 doing 50k overall
fresh igloo
Yeah my goal for s1 was aotc and portals. Got all the portals with my friends. We ran mage, BM hunter, feral druid, and healer swapped from evoker to druid. It was fun, looking forward to s2.
uneven mason
"tell me you get carried by your friends without telling me you get carried"
violet flume
yeah portals was my goal, took quite a few pugs tho. Would've been so much better with my old mythic raiding guildies hah
fresh igloo
Isn't devoker like the simplest dps spec rn?
uneven mason
Isn't devoker like the simplest dps spec rn?
slim dove
if you muck up fire breath or surge your dps is legit 0 though.
fresh igloo
Hey some times people need a training wheels spec option lol
slim dove
thats bm hunter
fresh igloo
lol... well. Can't argue that.
One button macro rotation bm hunter can still do decent numbers
fresh igloo
I'm not joking. I also didn't say "good"
crude notch
I guess if you want to somehow make a cursed macro that won't work half the time, sure.
fresh igloo
I certainly don't like or recommend it, but I don't have control over how other people play.
crude notch
But with that statement you're saying it can be done whatever "decent" means.
fresh igloo
And the hunter I run keys with clearly does it better than the macro person heh
crude notch
Decent to one is garbage to another
fresh igloo
True.
slim dove
arguing for the sake of arguing 
crude notch
onyx vessel
Looks like a argument to me 
sick sentinel
Anybody wanna run my thro dungeons lvl 62 prot warrior to learn rotations
onyx vessel
Solo them
Prot warrior rotation is auto pilot af you will be fine
Hero rotation is your friend as well
grizzled kite
Another evoker dps pulling MDI style in 18s
am I just cursed
or negative karma balance
violet flume
sounds like bad luck, i never have anyone pull for me except maybe 2-3 times over 100+ runs
daring marlin
holy shit what
I put up my 23TJS key and I have three tanks, two are DHs?
interesting
grizzled kite
warm plinth
I been pulling for tank a lot lately by accident because for some fuckin reason my hunter auto attacks even if I left-click target something 🤔
frosty sapphire
Is it worth to craft belt and neck or should I wait a little longer?
warm plinth
Kind of a vague question. What are you waiting for?
warm plinth
do it
frosty sapphire
The new raid
crude notch
LOG IN
warm plinth
there's no reason to wait to craft anything at this point. Once patch hits you're going to need new sparks and new upgrade materials
daring marlin
although I had a pretty big fuckup earlier this week in my own AA key and didn't mit a tankbuster on Vex. Very room temp IQ moment.
THEY'RE GONNA NEED THIS WOG I KNOW IT
splat
frosty sapphire
I wasn't sure I'm new to tanks and I saw some people saying we weren't sure if the necklace and belt was still good
warm plinth
Well, the lariat is going to take a hit at the start of the season for sure. But by the end of the season, it'll be just as good. And even in its weakened state, it's going to be marginally better than a same ilevel necklace, and still has the advantage of being able to choose the stats.
crude notch
nou
frosty sapphire
Okay that's fair
So I'll craft necklace first and then belt after
Haste mastery or haste versatility?
crude notch
gigachad
warm plinth
So I'll craft necklace first and then belt after
Should also be noted that belt isn't really mandatory anymore because we won't have the raid rings. And I'm assuming you've already made a shield and weapon, right?
frosty sapphire
Yeah I have
warm plinth
ok, just making sure. A lot of folks think the embellishments are more important
sick sentinel
Well did my first dungeon as a prot warrior and it was rough lol
warm plinth
👀
sick sentinel
I need to look up more prot warrior YouTube stuff
ionic fern
Nope.
If you don't know the content creators and their credibility, don't look at YT.
The Warrior videos i've seen there are HORRID for the most part.
ionic fern
"Oh, warrior is so bad, so slow" - gameplay video of them sitting at full rage for 15s
sick sentinel
😂
ionic fern
Ok frend.
warm plinth
It's just gonna be me looking sternly at the camera saying in a deadpan voice "Stop Using Barbaric Training" for 15 minutes
sick sentinel
Lol
ionic fern
It's just gonna be me looking sternly at the camera saying in a deadpan voice "S...
I will use it even more now.
warm plinth
sick sentinel
Do it
warm plinth
I actually made some tips videos in SL, like kinda simple M+ tricks
But it's a lot of work to edit videos
especially when you don't know the first thing about editing videos
sick sentinel
Lol right
ionic fern
Just upload with bloopers.
warm plinth
Like it took me idk
20 minutes to figure out adding a drawn line into the video to point something out
sick sentinel
Oooof
warm plinth
Very high quality shit let me tell you
ionic fern
Well did my first dungeon as a prot warrior and it was rough lol
-You diddn't press SB enough
-You used too much Ignore Pain
-You diddn't press SS/TC on CD to generate enough rage
-You diddn't use Avatar/Thunderous Roar/Ravager/Shield Charge enough
-You used the wrong talents
-You need to learn the dungeon better.
You're welcome.
warm plinth
He's more of a prophet, less a val'kyr tbh
sick sentinel
Yea yea yea
ionic fern
Je, 5/6 are definitely correct.
warm plinth
He might not have used the wrong talents because he was in here earlier asking a bunch of questions
crude notch
Hello Mwahi I hope you have a great day
ionic fern
Hello Jordan, i hope you will have a great evening.
ionic fern
He might not have used the wrong talents because he was in here earlier asking a...
Naa.
Don't question me.
warm plinth
Are you doing periods before AND after now?
sick sentinel
Too late
warm plinth
ionic fern
No, it was a typo. 😦
sick sentinel
I’m using periods now.
grizzled kite
It's just gonna be me looking sternly at the camera saying in a deadpan voice "S...
I'd sub to that
ionic fern
I’m using periods now.
How long will that last?
warm plinth
Anyone else do both Legion and SL bear mage tower and have the NPCs finish it off both times or just me?
crude notch
I'll pay someone $200/mon to make quality M+ videos
ionic fern
Anyone else do both Legion and SL bear mage tower and have the NPCs finish it of...
I haven't done bear mage tower, too hard.
ionic fern
I'll pay someone $200/mon to make quality M+ videos
Sure.
crude notch
The trick is it has to be approved by one "expert" or higher role from every tank discord
ionic fern
The trick is it has to be approved by one "expert" or higher role from every tan...
Sure, i'll pay them each 20€
warm plinth
Wait what kind of videos are we talking about?
warm plinth
Like general tips or?
pallid quiver
I'm pretty positive Mwahi's got the experts on deck with them 20 euro bills
sick sentinel
Ok so I think the one thing I’m confused on is which talents generate rage how to do you tell how much rage you have and which ones do you spend the rage on
ionic fern
Ok so I think the one thing I’m confused on is which talents generate rage how ...
What?
warm plinth
Well don't think of it as talents generating rage. Think of it as abilities generating rage. That'll be less confusing
crude notch
Like general tips or?
The idea is something that's universally approved across all tank discords
ionic fern
You look at the Rage bar to see your current Rage.
You read the tooltip to see how much Rage the ability generates.
ionic fern
The idea is something that's universally approved across all tank discords
GO IN DO DAMAGE TIME KEY.
Ggwp.
pallid quiver
10/10
warm plinth
We only spend rage on 3 things.
-Shield Block (which you should maintain 100% of the time)
-Revenge (which should be your go-to rage spender)
-Ignore Pain (which should be your button to press if you can't prevent overcapping rage with Revenge by itself).
Edited to make it easier to read
pallid quiver
Can only be improved with "use kicks"
pallid quiver
Damn, you're right
sick sentinel
We only spend rage on 3 things.
-Shield Block (which you should maintain 100% ...
☝️
ionic fern
Also, Jordan diddn't specify which key levels so i'll just farm +2's for that quality M+ content.
crude notch
Reality is once the channel got rolling it'd be self-sustaining financially
pallid quiver
We just need to pump even harder. That'll solve the issue.
ionic fern
Everything will be like "Okay, this mob X does..awww, he dead".
warm plinth
Shield Slam and Thunder Clap are your main rage builders, but you also get rage from Ravager, Shield Charge, Demoralizing Shout, and your bleeds (which we apply by default by doing our rotation).
You know I think Mwahi made some sort of guide that might spell this out better
I can't remember though
crude notch
Contractually I'd only withdraw once the person was making more than 399 USD/mon from the channel
warm plinth
Jordan is a rich person for sure
ionic fern
Definitely.
The funniest would be if i uploaded a dungeon video and talked over it after it would definitely be like
"Okay, so..you go in..wait, wtf am i pressing..no..don't do that..gosh..is that really how i play? WtF?"
crude notch
lol
warm plinth
Same though
I'd have to title my videos - How Not To Do Brackenhide Hollow On A Prot Warrior
ionic fern
Would be easier if people just provided me videos of their gameplay.
And i can do a talkover.
Of what they are doing wrong.
Reduce my own work by 50%.
warm plinth
Yeah because you don't have to go do it wrong yourself
ngl I think it would be hilarious if someone in here reviewed my shit publicly because they'd find out that I might know a lot but I don't do it right at all
pallid quiver
There is not a lot of vod review kind of content out there for WoW last I had seen.
ionic fern
I tell everyone to keep SB up all the time..meanwhile my SB is down and i'm spamming that Revenge.
warm plinth
lolol
pallid quiver
Then again, I also don't keep up with the content creation scene for WoW, so...
warm plinth
Let me look at my last run on war and see how embarrassing it is
crude notch
That's why I've always wanted to fund something like that instead of doing it myself.
ionic fern
Idk, i've offered to do VoD overviews and live feedback to anyone who wants. 😦
Think only 2 people have wanted it from me.
Most usually say "OH, REALLY?? I WANT IT"
And then dissapear.
crude notch
"Make sure you have 100% uptime on IF when getting hit."
Spams Raze the whole dungeon instead of pressing Ironfur.
warm plinth
88% blocked hits
pallid quiver
It's just not a cultural thing that WoW players do. Particularly since logs are a thing, and people default to "number make stronk" instead of wider play and strategy decisions.
ionic fern
Yes.
warm plinth
My CPM
pallid quiver
ow
ionic fern
IN where?
pallid quiver
Did someone die? Did you have to thumbsuck?
ionic fern
Wait, i need to go check my CPM before i know if i can make fun of you.
pallid quiver
I don't think I've had a dungeon without a wipe/DPS or Heal demanding we wait for them or they leave that I've gone below 60 CPM
Time to check and see if I can what my lowest was...
grizzled kite
Cleared out cookies and browser history, forgot to change away from "before account created". Around 2 years worth of logins just disappeared 🫠
warm plinth
We also got giga unlucky with the timing on the void guy after 1st pull and he spawned in as I was charging
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GBAFdwrahgMX84px#fight=1&type=deaths here you guys go, enjoy!
pallid quiver
Oof, I'm a liar. My lowest in any recent times has been 59.2 CPM.
warm plinth
idk why that posted twice
frankly considering I do 1 key a week, it could probably be worse
heavy temple
I got my ass beat in by the void slash bois
Never dispel, never lucky
warm plinth
Maybe stop using barbaric so you have rage to actual press buttons
I only play correct talents sir
I do a shit job with them, but they're correct
jagged pier
warm plinth
Hi Jakey
jagged pier
👋
warm plinth
How are you this morning
grizzled kite
Making that big buxs
warm plinth
Yeah I make pretty good money so it's worth it now and then lol
(since I'm paid hourly; if I was salaried I'd be upset)
jagged pier
no they determine you rank
higher the rank on a fight the more star points
higher ranks accross the board the more star points over all and higher the rank overall
u sure thats not for hc
cause 900 is like all bosses dead
yes
u can get more points than this guy without clearing the whole raid
its based on parses
grizzled kite
what are the parses based on though? just damage or buff uptime of specific things, damage taken, mitigated etc?
warm plinth
There are parses for various things but the only ones people tend to look at are damage
jagged pier
damage done nothing else matters in raid if your playing correctly u live anyway so u should be going for damage
warm plinth
Like they have healing parses, and I think like execution and speed rankings as well
jagged pier
execution and speed are guild not char
warm plinth
right
wispy pawn
Get hit , hit back, don’t die. Tank life. 🙂
sinful copper
im a new prot warrior and just got big toe and burgeoning seed. doesnt show up in any of the guides, but are they really that bad?
and if i use burgeoning, should i just macro it to like shield block or something i hit regularly?
warm plinth
that's not a bar; that's a weakaura suite.
warm plinth
im a new prot warrior and just got big toe and burgeoning seed. doesnt show up i...
Burgeoning seed is legit garbage and should be replaced by virtually anything as soon as possible that isn't a huge ilevel loss.
Big toe is fine, though not amazing
sinful copper
lol that terrible? yikes. ill replace with rumbling ruby then?
warm plinth
Yeah that would be preferable.
sinful copper
i also have idol of trampling hooves
warm plinth
That's a decent one as well
sinful copper
would i want to use big toe on cd (2 min) or only pair it with avatar?
warm plinth
I'd probably pair it with avatar. You shouldn't have to hold the trinket very long anyway for it to line up
Just make sure you're holding the trinket for Avatar, not the other way around. Not worth it to hold Avatar
sinful copper
yeah id just get the trinket every other avatar then
warm plinth
Avatar has about a ~35 second CD if you're playing properly
So it'd be more like every 4th avatar
sinful copper
ohhh thats not bad. i forgot avatar has cd reduction on rage spend
during avatar for M+ dps, do i just spam revenge if everything already has rend from thunderclap? or does thunderclap take priority?
warm plinth
SS>TC>Revenge
TC gives rage and does more damage than Revenge
and can also reset SS
(not that Revenge can't; I just mean you're not losing that by casting TC over Revenge)
sinful copper
SS is still priority for aoe though?
crude notch
Everyone knows that's what Ghash is known for
warm plinth
Rage?
crude notch
Definitely not me though, I'm cool calm and Zen, like a monk.
warm plinth
I am an angy boi
warm plinth
Definitely not me though, I'm cool calm and Zen, like a monk.
Like Bansheelover
sinful copper
but in aoe, i find that i have so much rage that i cant even keep up with gcds. ill quickly dump into an ignore pain if i need but if i have defensives rolling and shield block up and the trash is going to die quickly, i just end up spamming tc and revenge and skipping SS
crude notch
Gross, skipping SS.
sinful copper
hey, i did say im new to prot warrior lol
warm plinth
That's what Ignore Pain is for. You always want to be dumping rage. Ideally through Revenge, but IP is there as an extra dump
ionic fern
but in aoe, i find that i have so much rage that i cant even keep up with gcds. ...
🤷
That's what i do from time to time.
warm plinth
More rage = more rage consumption = more Avatar 
You can ignore SS in like, fairly big aoe if you only care about damage
sinful copper
i mean if im living, i want to push more dmg
more healer dps, more tank dps = timing more keys
warm plinth
yeah but it still needs to be a decent target count to be an increase in damage
Shield Slam does a LOT of damage
sinful copper
oh ok ill keep that in mind
warm plinth
Like it'll be your top damage in keys despite being a single target ability
sinful copper
yeah im skipping too many. it's like 4th or 5th on my total lol
crude notch
Ghash, what do I play in S2?
woeful bramble
The only downside is that it takes ages to kill elites but you dont die haha
warm plinth
Ghash, what do I play in S2?
hmm, what role have you been playing lately?
sinful copper
i hit 3k on prot pally and not pushing anymore, so now im playing prot warrior and having so much rage that i cant press my buttons faster cuz of gcd is frustrating
crude notch
hmm, what role have you been playing lately?
Tank mostly, I'm thinking of possibly going healer in S2 though with the affix mix-up. No more grievous or explosive = comfy healer
warm plinth
I think rdruid or hpal are both going to be decent. Depending on what playstyle you like more
woeful bramble
I have been playing only dps and now i started playing tank! I know you asked the other guy i just said my perc haha
crude notch
Kinda liking the priest tier set mog
deep spruce
It's the prot channel, so i mean
warm plinth
Also may i ask something about prot?
the suspense is killing me
jagged pier
sinful copper
whats the ranking of dps trinkets for us, for tanking M+?
vocal nimbus
whetstone and dathea elemental
but elemental gets you killed or fucks something 90% of the time
totem one from kurog is good as well
echo egret
I have a question about desyncing Hyrja. What would be the consequences of pulling her on light side, letting her cast sanctify, then stay here for eye of the storm, then only alternate sides ?
grizzled kite
Think she gains too many stacks of light. One stack = 10% damage so she would eventually just start one shotting people with Expel Light. Also frontal would be brutal.
echo egret
mmmm
craggy pilot
why do you want to stay on the same side for multiple cycles anyway?
grizzled kite
I guess he wants to have an easy way to reverse her sides but it's already very easy to do
echo egret
For now in my personal experience, leaping at 4 seconds is not 100% reliable.
But it could be me.
amber siren
Her cast sequence isn't static, that's why putting her in the middle after a single stack is the safest way
echo egret
ok
craggy pilot
idk i never did reverse her casts
and did HOV on +20 on both weeks
its a healer job anyway 😄
edgy belfry
just jump the moment she casts first expel light
craggy pilot
i usually just let the healer handle the first one
and then Rally the 2nd one
and healer should have some more stuff rdy for 3rd easily
sick sentinel
Yeet off the map
this is why im legally not allowed to playmonk
daring marlin
For now in my personal experience, leaping at 4 seconds is not 100% reliable.
Just watch Naowh's hyrja inversion video.
It's 100% reliable.
quartz briar
On Raz prog rn, what's yall's favorite on-use trinket outside of grieftorch
I have a big toe, been grinding for whet but someone was telling me they use hoof
uneven mason
I have a big toe, been grinding for whet but someone was telling me they use hoo...
Whetstone is myth
Doesn't exist
This week I was even going to stop grinding cos for whetstone
And running my own keys I ended up getting cos three times
It's mocking me
woeful bramble
the suspense is killing me
How can i improve my dmg for solo quests, world quests etc?? Through gear i guess
uneven mason
How can i improve my dmg for solo quests, world quests etc?? Through gear i gues...
What spec are you using?
Like you just want single target damage?
Guessing for the big elites on the reach?
quartz briar
Whetstone is myth
It's not a myth. It just is guaranteed to drop for the 370 dps alt in your group who still has green trinkets
uneven mason
It's not a myth. It just is guaranteed to drop for the 370 dps alt in your group...
This is true
I have one on my vdh
That character is dead to me for betrayal
rocky bronze
Mained Bear for this season, farmed for it, never saw it drop. Levelled my warrior and it dropped the second time running it 
rocky bronze
My druid has v bad luck for trinkets. Warrior on the other hand seems to be a magnet for them
uneven mason
My warrior has been using the bis for adorable all xpac, got a RWS week 1 and fuckall besides
sick sentinel
this means that there has been 48999 builds of wow total? or im a bit confused what that number means or why its so high
my assumption is after 20 years they've tried that many versions
no big deal,
sick sentinel
yeah, just amazing to think wow will have been edited in different in 50k ways pretty soon
stuck peak
it could be small changes or big ones, but typically, you'll see whatever is the released version each time that number changes. If they make any changes and build it, then it goes up
pastel sleet
In prep for season 2, im rebuilding my weakauras, ui, and plater from the ground up. I know its been done by others, but i like doing it as an exercise.
Do yall track any important dots/debuffs?
limpid anchor
Yes
limpid anchor
What is that question kek
torn gulch
i mean it will be bad if you did not track your main stuff
uneven mason
yeah, just amazing to think wow will have been edited in different in 50k ways ...
That's not number of edits, that's probably in the millions
uneven mason
i mean it will be bad if you did not track your main stuff
Our debuffs and dots are fire and forget because they happen as part of gameplay, as for npc debuffs on us or our cotank
torn gulch
i understood the question wrong my bad
uneven mason
I don't really keep track of most, but idk if there is any savage peck type things that you want plater to get your attention on for season 2
uneven mason
In prep for season 2, im rebuilding my weakauras, ui, and plater from the ground...
Warriors have a number of buffs and CD we track, but nothing we apply to the target needs to really be paid attention to.
Oh, demo shout
That's basically the only one that stands out
pastel sleet
Ty thats what i was looking for
Do yall know of any s2 dungeon specific enemy buffs/debuffs that are high in importance?
uneven mason
woeful bramble
What spec are you using?
I use arms but i dont have prob with dps but when i spec to prot it take ages for me to kill some elites but i dont die haha