dispells on the affix dudes, enemies, or firnedly
#protection
strong forum
It'll be the paladin season
velvet lichen
It'll be *the* paladin season
agree
sick sentinel
i though hpal was still shit
grizzled kite
what about evoker support
sick sentinel
i still want some other class to have mass dispell and rogues can create healthstones in pve
sick sentinel
rogue besides sneak sometimes and kill shit doesn't offer much else
warm plinth
🤔
sick sentinel
how about longer into future next hero class is a cloth or mail wearing class
warm plinth
Gouge, Blind, Kidney Shot, Cheap Shot, Sap, Shroud, the most broken defensive in the game with Feint, a magic immunity, a cheat death. But I guess rogues bring nothing
grizzled kite
Gouge, Blind, Kidney Shot, Cheap Shot, Sap, Shroud, the most broken defensive in...
Tricks of the Trade!
balmy canyon
It's rare to see a rogue that takes the gcds from dps to use those stops
sick sentinel
sublety has always sucked i felt
strong forum
Ngl, somebody mentioned that rogue should get CR and Lust too. Cuz you bring them anyway, so might aswell have them bring everything
And I kinda agree
sick sentinel
i tried it loads of times
mighty valley
It's rare to see a rogue that takes the gcds from dps to use those stops
play with better rogues
sick sentinel
i have alwyas hated sub, every time
warm plinth
Yeah pretty sure you guys are just playing with bad rogues lol
strong forum
They're so dumbfuck loaded, just give em everything so you don't have to bring something else specifically
grizzled kite
The rogue paradox is that to become a better rogue you'd have to use gcds to actually do better
sick sentinel
CR combat rez?
warm plinth
And I kinda agree
I actually laughed out loud when they buffed Feint in Shadowlands
sick sentinel
i just call it battlerez
balmy canyon
Electric stab
balmy canyon
Or maybe stab of life
mighty valley
spell reflect is a pretty great defensive CD for dps warriors too tbf
grizzled kite
Rogues dont bring anything to raids right? Like +phys dmg, like monk/dh?
sick sentinel
I actually laughed out loud when they buffed Feint in Shadowlands
what was the buff they did
grizzled kite
sullen gust
As a question, I've been a prot warrior for a while and feel like I've got to a point I am confident and comfortable with the spec. I'm looking to play a dps spec so other friends get a chance to tank from time to time when they want to. Is it easier to play fury or arms as someone who has had almost exclusively prot warrior experience?
sick sentinel
back in 7.00 7.1.5 apparently it was a 50% DR
mighty valley
As a question, I've been a prot warrior for a while and feel like I've got to a ...
Kind of a taste thing? Fury's decisions are very simple but faster
sick sentinel
and also, that shit is so legit you don't even klnow it
mighty valley
You can spend a little time on a dummy on each spec to get a feel for it
sullen gust
Kind of a taste thing? Fury's decisions are very simple but faster
So its bit more like speed vs calculation?
sick sentinel
this guy sums it up so much perfectly i cant even begin to critism it
mighty valley
So its bit more like speed vs calculation?
I haven't played arms for a long time, just more of a fury fan, but last time I played there was a little more stockpiling CDs/resources for burst windows
fury just sends all its shit at the start of the pull in sequence
sullen gust
fury just sends all its shit at the start of the pull in sequence
So sorta like on prot when I'm making a big pull I wanna use my CDs more front loaded to apply the bleeds and buffs
mighty valley
again I'm not super familiar with modern arms
but yeah, fury has similar concepts - send all your stuff on CD, don't overcap rage
ember tangle
sullen gust
I'll have to give fury a try then, see if I can figure it out. And once I've worked that out maybe I'll look at arms to see if it feels better on a different playstyle. For now I think I just want to be useful when a friend wants to try tanking
mighty valley
the main thing you'll find you'll have to adjust to from tanking is just melee dps basics - handling mechanics that are thrown at you while maintaining melee uptime
zinc valley
WHY ..DO I...always give ragnaros a chance.
I'm always like "its mean to label the whole server"
And I always give chance...and 90% of time regret
Am I a bad person?
pallid quiver
Just remember it's all pugs, regardless of server
warm plinth
I play with Rag, QT, and Azralon all the time. I have bad experiences now and then but that goes for any server. I think people overestimate how many bad players are from a given realm because there's the additional discriminator of the language
So they tend to stand out more than someone from say, Stormrage
urban portal
bceause you dont remember their server if they are bad from say illidan
but you remember if they are not speaking english
warm plinth
Yep, or at this point it's almost self-fulfilling prophecy. They already get stereotyped, so it's easier to notice because other people already say they're bad.
slim dove
its really just the language barrier making communication difficult or even impossible.
high tyr nok weeks asking the azra mage to poly moon for instance, bro just starts blasting then flames in broken english when we wipe
zinc valley
Very good points actually
cinder storm
I have some insights since I'm bilingual and I play with both SA and NA, pugs on both sides suck, however when a pug from SA tilts they stop trying or leave, when a NA pug tilts they might rage or type or talk the whole encounter but they keep trying for the most part
There are many good players in Ragnaros but they often have a set group already
For what it's worth, I tend to avoid Ragnaros in the same manner I avoid illidan players
warm plinth
undone verge
doesnt help that I rolled troll and actually have a useful racial
warm plinth
Just macro that shit to something; that's what I did on my war lol
undone verge
good idea lol
warm plinth
I'm troll as well
undone verge
probably just throw it on keg smash lol
shell mortar
At least you're not from EU Kazzak, or, better yet, from one of the Spanish servers 
undone verge
my theory on why Rag/Quelthalas players are either boom or bust is account sharing, like the sub cost is so expensive down there half the time the 3k player applying is probably someones little brother/friend
sick sentinel
How much does haste DR after the first DR threshold?
grizzled kite
tall cedar
guys diurna or 421 chest with leech ( i have 421 also) or socket for 421 jeweled signet melandrus
warm plinth
How much does haste DR after the first DR threshold?
10%
e.g. instead of 170 haste for 1%, it's 187 haste for 1%
sick sentinel
ty
undone verge
Wait does Spell block block the rasz slam and the dmg from the beam in p3?
amber siren
Yeah they’re both magic damage
undone verge
Does it completely negate the initial dmg from the breath?
deep spruce
guys diurna or 421 chest with leech ( i have 421 also) or socket for 421 jeweled...
Sim it
I think socket might be best option
undone verge
Just normal DR
What’s the dr?
mighty valley
20%, it says on the tooltip
undone verge
Not SR, Spell block
mighty valley
oh right
spell block just applies your normal phys block attributes to spell damage
undone verge
Gotcha thanks
tall cedar
@deep spruce yeah simmed got socket
deep spruce
Sweet
stuck basin
you simmed that leech dont give more dmg then socket - very helpful
so socket is better right now sure but you can take socket every week and a leech set chest would have been better long term choice - but season ends soon anyways 😉
warm plinth
Irrelevant is a strong word
stuck basin
im pretty sure its a lot better then nothing^^
deep spruce
Tertiary stats are pretty negatable
deep spruce
im pretty sure its a lot better then nothing^^
Maybe, but it's not better than the dps that a socket provides
ionic fern
Does it completely negate the initial dmg from the breath?
Shouldn't need it regardless.
SW is enough.
warm plinth
Right but that wasn't his point.
ionic fern
And you have it up for each (should have at least).
warm plinth
His point was that you can get a socket any time you want. You can't just farm a 421 leech chest
@ionic fern did you see all the hate earlier about us saying ily 😂
deep spruce
Maybe in week 1, but there's 3 weeks left of season
deep spruce
So 🤷🏻♂️
ionic fern
I don't bother reading back.
warm plinth
warm plinth
Ily Ghash, hope you have a great evening.
ily2 Mwahi. Gotta add some shit for them to search 😂
lilac jay
How can i have the 7th week in a row in my mythic weekly the cloak from first boss. how is that not illegal
jagged pier
heady sapphire
what is currently the best for m+?
craggy pilot
what is currently the best for m+?
for what? dmg? defensive? stats? aoe? st?
do you have Valor to spend?
i would probably do Icon + Blazebinder
in your case
mighty valley
Valor up the whetstone if you can, all totem is better than icon unless your whole group has icon
strong forum
It's icon
Your best choices there are whetstone + hoof for General play
And if alot of people have icon in your raid/group then it's whetstone+icon
strong forum
Imagine not having whetstone + all-totem since week 1
grizzled kite
would you say rumbling/all-totem + whetstone is better than torch + rumbling? also 
strong forum
Nah torch outright beats whetstone
grizzled kite
even on aoe?
strong forum
Yes
warm plinth
Whetstone only scales a tiny bit on aoe and only up to 5 targets
strong forum
^
Whetstone does 175% dmg split between 5 targets, 100% on 1 target
Grieftorch has strength, which scales better into aoe and the on-use itself does more cuz fire dmg
strong forum
Whetstone reads like it just does 300k per target, but it has the bfa split
grizzled kite
serves me right for not asking sooner
strong forum
So it's more an ST trinket than aoe
warm plinth
Imagine if it did 300k to each target though
jagged pier
imagine if u could block parry and dodge during it
strong forum
That's what whetstone did back in Legion and legion m+ timewalking when it was first around
warm plinth
Oh well, gonna be a long time before we see it again after this season so
strong forum
But by the 2nd round of legion m+ timewalking they applied the bfa split without changing the tooltip
warm plinth
yeah because that would be too unblizzard-like of them 😂
burnt bay
I checked the guides and pinned messages but couldnt find an answer yet.
is 322 avoidance worth 3 Ilvl drop on exact same item?
Ilvl is better that the secondary stats, but couldnt find about the other
(avoidance simming isn't a thing right?)
pallid quiver
Tertiaries are worth even less than secondaries
so no, it's definitely not worth dropping ilvl, since that likely has str on it. If not str, then just sheer stat existence
heady sapphire
for what? dmg? defensive? stats? aoe? st?
sorry, was afk but frankly, defensive
heady sapphire
do you have Valor to spend?
y, I do
strong forum
Yeah we generally don't drop ilvl for tertiaries
pallid quiver
unless it's speed gotta go fast
lunar tide
hey guys, this is always ashield right? (have 411) boots are biggest ilvl upgrade, while ring is biggest dps upgrade.. but i feel like 418 is hard to get and especially as shield is super important to use, that it might be the right choice
timid marlin
our prot warrior wears ruby whelp shell, he thinks it outperforms and "feels" better then other real trinkets. we got ce last week. what can i do?
grizzled kite
I mean if he enjoys it, he enjoys it
And you did get CE so I guess mission accomplished
karmic plinth
there are better trinkets for him but his trinkets wont make or break your success
sweet summit
feelycraft 
lunar tide
Give yourself more options
what do you mean by this
btw i cant craft 418 shield as I dont have the resources to do so.. if i am gonna upgrade smth to 418, its gonna be lariat and then the weapon (if only)
white prawn
Was implying to craft the shield if you could and take another vault option. But you’ve answered my question. Given circumstances I’d go shield
earnest isle
what's the best way to use your cds for threat on i1 rasza on red side if I have no tricks no md whatsoever?
jagged pier
well u have cds for the first and last
woeful bramble
Do i craft the shield with emeblishment right??,
jagged pier
and u have aoe taunt for the 2nd
lucid pasture
It's soda.
What the fuuuuck mwahi you are not human
jagged pier
🤷
ionic fern
What the fuuuuck mwahi you are not human
Agreed.
earnest isle
I am trying to at least pop outburst on tclap but sometimes its not enough
jagged pier
i dunno even with the nerfs u should have cds back for 3rd imo i used to get them back like mid way through 2nd set
granted i havent done it with the most recent nerfs
earnest isle
oh I know where the problem is, we push rasa faster now so I have to use all cds p1 so we push before winds
ionic fern
I think for me it was..
1st)Avatar + SC
2nd)Roar/Ravager/DS + Avatar
3rd) Avatar + trinket + AoE taunt
jagged pier
but i dont think it takes that much time off
earnest isle
so thats why my cds are ass
earnest isle
but yeah its literally yikes how almost nothing happens in p3
lucid pasture
Mwahi go give me money
earnest isle
our first p3 we got to 4%
sick sentinel
i also agree
mwahi give me money, for wow tokens
this time its wow related so you have to to do it ths time
pallid quiver
mwahi give me money so i can invest in society making it so you can peacefully retire and have all your needs accounted for, leading to a stress-free, easy life
grizzled kite
Is the Kokia's Searing Wounds a bleed effect, or is it pure damage? Can you dwarf racial it?
daring marlin
You can racial it
sick sentinel
usually something that can be removed by another player will say "on fire debuff" or "magic bullshit spell" or "im poisioned"
like, it will have a tag in addition to the effect,
and if its got that tag of posion, you just need the poison removal guy in your group with a brain and awake to hit that remove poison button
icy citrus
clear as day my friend 💯
sick sentinel
are you that 211 taunts in some kweystone guy, i seem to remember someone from within this week was talking about it
crude notch
@ionic fern and @warm plinth Ily both.
deft hinge
this is is in a way how i view like, above +20 keys
i vote for importing bfg to wow!
give it to a hunter, let it spam 🙂
sick sentinel
i vote for importing bfg to wow!
pre-nerf ring was plasma gun
fire million times a minute for relatively huge dmg
bitter oar
hi is there a different specc to play for fortified and tyrannical? is there something like an overview when to pick what?
amber siren
there's no spec variation between fort and tyr
modern brook
hi is there a different specc to play for fortified and tyrannical? is there som...
only real talent shift is taking Spell block on the relevent dungeons
left basalt
spell block is a fun talent, loving it on 18+ AVs
minor forge
I have 421 chest(no haste) and 421 gloves with leech(have haste) in vault
On me I have 415 chest(with haste) and 415 tier gloves
Could the gloves be worth it?
Picking chest is definite loss in haste
left basalt
topgear sim?
uneven mason
I have 421 chest(no haste) and 421 gloves with leech(have haste) in vault
On me ...
Take the chest
Ilvl is king
minor forge
Chest sims better
Was just thinking about haste and leech
uneven mason
For str slots you always want ilvl the stat priority is literally for equal ilvl comparison
uneven mason
Chest sims better
Was just thinking about haste and leech
Don't think about them our 2ndary stats are very close in value
amber siren
more stats is better than 'good' stats
uneven mason
And you're not even going to notice the leech
minor forge
Chest it is then since it has more stats than a gloves upgrade
Thanks for the replies, everyone
sick sentinel
the TAS (tool assisted, aka computer aided) speed run im watching for that doom map is 1 hr 57 minute run
takes computer 2 hoursplaying perfectly to beat it, jesus
last mason
whats the tldr on the tier
ashen harness
i dont think leech is good on tanks, at all. Cause the amount it heals is fairly insignificant, and every time you're topped off, the supposed value from leech is lost.
The only scenario where leech is good, is if the amount leech heals you for, since the last time you were topped off, is greater than the lowest amount of HP you had during that time. And we get topped off so frequently that this amount dont have time to scale up.
I love avoidance though.. and speed for m+
sweet summit
leech is literally the coolest stat in the game
like imagine damaging enemies and gaining HP from it
ashen harness
if you get it for free, then sure
but there are many things i'd take before leech.
Maybe not secondary stat upgrade, on equal item level... if so it'd have to be worst secondaries to best secondaries
what would you guys pick?
500 Crit 200 Mastery 300 Leech
or
500 Haste 200 Vers
ashen harness
does leech do damage? dont think so
sweet summit
?XD
fresh igloo
that's... not an equivalent comparison?
tertiary stats are something you consider after primary and secondary stats
amber siren
i mean more in that say 500 haste 200 vers is 'better' in terms of dps, i'd give up 60 dps or so for leech
fresh igloo
so, rarely will it ever be a deciding factor.
amber siren
or 500 crit and 200 mastery might be better for me in the first place
hence simming is better than just feeling it out
ashen harness
if you're keking over leech doing damage or not, i was not 100% sure if it healed you based on damage done, or did damage and leached that amount (still based on damage done tho)
woeful cypress
Hm dps does the 4pc do in 10.1?
ashen harness
its the first btw
sweet summit
it was just a very narrow-minded response to the sim statement
sweet summit
ofc the leech stat itself does nothing for damage, but crit and mastery do
infact crit is very good for damage
ashen harness
crit is almost as good as strength in pure dps gain
Strength 4.77
Critical Strike 3.18
Haste 2.28
Mastery 2.02
Versatility 1.95
Weapon DPS 25.97
these are weights for me at least
dont know how much they differ from player to player
fresh igloo
generally speaking prot gears for hast and crit to get a lot of offensive value
stat weights vary wildly between individuals though, of course.
ashen harness
how is stat weights bad? assuming item level is the same
fresh igloo
because it's a momentary snapshot of a thing that will change the instant you change anything.
ashen harness
what do you mean, a completely new set of gear will drastically change weights to the point that they change order?
fresh igloo
it's worth no more than a "huh, that's interesting"
fresh igloo
what do you mean, a completely new set of gear will drastically change weights t...
totally can, or even as simple as one ring or enchant change can alter your stat weights, in extreme cases.
dusky canopy
Emphasis on the dogshit part
ashen harness
totally can, or even as simple as one ring or enchant change can alter your stat...
whats the worst case scenario you can think of, if you have any
shut summit
that was 4 uses in 4:45 length on ptr, scaled to 400 ilvl or w/e so itll go up some but its really really bad
fresh igloo
whats the worst case scenario you can think of, if you have any
did you notice all the warnings all over raidbots when you run a stat weight sim?
woeful cypress
https://i.imgur.com/V2RllKk.png
Wowee that's not good
fresh igloo
it's true for a reason
fresh igloo
whats the worst case scenario you can think of, if you have any
just as an example rn I can see my stat weights rank vers as second best secondary for me, right under crit. it's not really meaningful to make choices on, that's all.
sweet summit
it's bad because one item changes the weights, but top gear knows it all
fresh igloo
just use top gear/gear set comparisons.
uneven mason
absolutely dogshit levels of damage
Literally no point in that set bonus
uneven mason
So the 2p great, 4p fucking pointless
dusky canopy
Ye prettty bad it appears
ashen harness
ok i read the article simcraft referred to when doing stat weights
urban portal
how is stat weights bad? assuming item level is the same
read the giant yellow box
it explains it
nvm you already read it
ashen harness
ye i read the whole article
median tulip
TBH I have barely simmed my character this season. Largely I've just slapped on the highest ilvl and called it good.
atomic nest
Anyone know what level you need to do the time walking dungeons?
slow harbor
60
atomic nest
Lame lol thanks
daring marlin
Reworking our tier would be great considering pally seems pretty solid atm
prot anyway
sweet summit
just increase the scaling to like 200% AP that would be cool i think
strong forum
Idk if "love" is the right word
Whenever an older tier item is better than current tier, it's awful
urban portal
Not similar for every spec
Some specs just scale better with secondaries
Already outscaled for arms for example because the stats are so awful
warm plinth
That chart seems really...suspect
Because that also means you're keeping a low ilevel helm to proc it
Like it's not as if you're gonna upgrade the helm day 1 of the patch
urban portal
That too
You aren’t taking account of the opportunity cost of the piece you need to proc it
The number prob true for dh
warm plinth
But yeah I personally hope the tier sets and cantrips are nuked or deactivated. I hate when past tier shit is used in the next tier
urban portal
At least this is first boss
pallid quiver
i'm eyeballing that raging change
dusky canopy
In pugs mobs usually are DRd by 30% anyway
strong forum
Nobody expected that
Blizz making good changes to m+
Before season launch
Is impressive
prisma crane
yea these are fantastic changes
dusky canopy
They probably internally testing the season dungeons and they’re like oh fuck this season going to be way to spicy
tropic tangle
I'd wager that maybe the feedback was strong enough
they tried real hard to keep explo
modern brook
Blizz making good changes to m+
wait
prisma crane
indirect minor buff to SR w/ the bolster change lol
modern brook
really?
dusky canopy
ILL READ THEM
prisma crane
the make bad affixes gud
and other bad affixes less bad
and no more super bad one, bring back gud one
modern brook
wait are people just pogging over explosive being removed?
Spiteful not one shotting people anyomre is probably the coolest part in there tbh
tropic tangle
bolster change too
modern brook
yeah bolster change is pog
Ill give that
volcanic is a dogshit mechanic imo but whatever not gunna complain about a freefix
Shade scaling is the biggun for me tbh
prisma crane
its not THAT free for casters, it's annoying as hell
prisma crane
but thats better than just death
daring marlin
modern brook
its not THAT free for casters, it's annoying as hell
honestly why i think its dogshit
prisma crane
shorter sanguine isnt bad
modern brook
volcanic is a nothing affix for 80% of your party
and absolutely fucks over the 5th guy
daring marlin
and absolutely fucks over the 5th guy
Fuck them ranged
prisma crane
but the bigger problem for sanguine i have to agree w/ gingi, they just need to make it not heal for like .5 second or something
daring marlin
Let 'em suffer
modern brook
Fuck them ranged
also ery true
prisma crane
so you have time to move them out
modern brook
failed the skill check by picking mage at charcter creation
prisma crane
incorp going away end of combat is good
modern brook
I have no comments on the new ones i havent played them at all yet
prisma crane
and entangling is now 40% less annoying and better visually
modern brook
explosive going away im very mid on, i liked the idea of making it a healer problem personally, but i think just getting rid of it was probably the best play they had
Spiteful scaling ending at 20 is probably the biggest change
prisma crane
well, incorp are mobs you have to "control" for 20 sec, cant kill them, so before, if one spawned 1 sec before you kill all mobs, you're stuck in combat for 19 sec
modern brook
tired of being insta gibbed becuase shit spawns on me
prisma crane
so it was a really needed change
prisma crane
raging is worse if they cant be interrupted, but i dont think interrupts fall under CC
and hopefully can still be soothed
prisma crane
intervene ftw if you have just one melee
modern brook
raging is worse if they cant be interrupted, but i dont think interrupts fall un...
Historically kicks were included in cc
I imagine ragingis handled exactly the same: you just sooth the guy you need to kick
tropic tangle
I imagine ragingis handled exactly the same: you just sooth the guy you need to ...
over/under on devs copy/pasting the Inspiring aura and 1 mob being enraged makes the whole pack CC/kick immune?
lime urchin
hello
modern brook
Hi
left basalt
umm lfg 
amber siren
huge 746 intellect
urban portal
I’m just saying that there’s a real opportunity cost to it more than just what the page says
And it’s more accurate for rogues because they are good with borrowed power
Like I said earlier the rings are already bad for both dps warriors
Same with something like priest and dk as well
modern brook
Do we care tho
It's already not used in current content
No world it isn't out scaled by next teir
urban portal
It’s 100% better than any ring vdh can get
modern brook
Stand by don't care tho
urban portal
Vdh is not swapping off
sick sentinel
what happens to it 10.1
i think the way i've read it, is that they become useless 10.1 s2, cuz you need the new version, but items you've crafted you can craft again to base s2 spark ilvl for the cost of recraft and new base spark
i don't know if this item just turns into a grey sells for 25 gold or what
hard grove
It will still be usuable
daring marlin
Everybody hyped for affix changes
but the real challenge will be the dungeons themselves
sick sentinel
what about instead of vocanic and explosive in its current form, its just instead both, fire appears under you have to move out, and after it goes off then (same as for a long time functioning) explosives appear and you gotta kill some explodes
both are like, a firey explosion deal
urban portal
Yogi has some of the most interesting takes
sick sentinel
both of them are do nothing 3 IQ mechanics that only the worst players get hit by or let happen
sick sentinel
ooohh
raging got the bolster nerf
im still mad about raging halls of attonement btw
i will never run that keystone ever again, under any circumstance
daring marlin
Great dungeon
sick sentinel
almost as bad as plaguefall
warm plinth
Plaguefall was absolutely the worst dungeon of SL
warm plinth
DOS was good
urban portal
Get rid of the hallways
warm plinth
idk it had what, 43 min timer? And in S3/4 was a pretty easy 2 chest
urban portal
It’s just a lot of downtime
old sinew
Plaguefall was absolutely the worst dungeon of SL
Pinky got bad takes over in Skyhold yikes
warm plinth
🤔
sick sentinel
they had tons of hard trash on the ring and in 3 paths leading to 3 boses before you can attempt the final boss
strong forum
Plaguefall was ass, easy (to a certain extend) but ass
sick sentinel
someone messes up comms, ur screwed
warm plinth
Yeah PF wasn't hard really but it was just...unfun
sick sentinel
have to wait another, 90 seconds or so to attempt to kill the one that someone didnt go to or didnt kill or didnt click the thing
daring marlin
Pinky got bad takes over in Skyhold yikes
weirdo detected
sick sentinel
it felt very furstrating to try and then you die and then your knee deep in the dead once again
old sinew
PF was a blast. Good bosses that ramped in difficulty and complexity, a variety of trash mechanics, different environments, a unique theme, blasting with haste auras, routing freedom…
PF was lit
sick sentinel
im talking about the end of DSO
and you have to do the teleports
to get to the 4 things
kill them
click a button
old sinew
Phial dropped. Poxstorm.
sick sentinel
so you don't not timer it
urban portal
PF was lit
First boss can be tough in a pug though
sick sentinel
and its maddeniing when it goes wrong
tropic tangle
anything over like 35 min timer is annoying
old sinew
My guess is Pinky rogue DPS didn’t scale as well with haste as lock dps
daring marlin
Phial is the lamest trinket ever.
old sinew
Phial is the lamest trinket ever.
🚫
urban portal
There was definitely more optimization you can do with phial
Than other trinkets
It’s also on a timer and not a proc
Which is cool
warm plinth
My guess is Pinky rogue DPS didn’t scale as well with haste as lock dps <:okayge...
I played multiple toons in 20s in SL sir. Just because I like the haste buff doesn't mean I like the dungeon
sick sentinel
everyones probably a something andy
old sinew
I played multiple toons in 20s in SL sir. Just because I like the haste buff do...
Did borergate really sour you on PF that much? 
warm plinth
did what?
warm plinth
No lol. Idgaf about what happens in MDI personally
old sinew
What’s not to like then
warm plinth
I just don't like the dungeon lol. It's my opinion.
old sinew
🤷♂️
mighty valley
i also never really enjoyed plaguefall
old sinew
I’m not really tapped into the mainstream. I ptr tested freehold and didn’t like it even though everyone claims it is goat
So… 🤷♂️
mighty valley
oh yeah, I'm also not really a freehold lover
well, it's pretty fun after the initial "getting shit on by a bird" section
modern brook
turn about and blast my broadsides 
old sinew
Dumb theme lame bosses gimmicky routing. Not a fan. Maybe that will change but so far it doesn’t come close to AA which I think is one of the best
old sinew
I like spires but it’s objectively kind of bad
sick sentinel
before i learned about theatre
mighty valley
spires was a bit too dense on trash mechanics but 90% of its problems were around cameras getting stuck in shit
daring marlin
ToP was my favorite dungeon.
mighty valley
oh yeah top ruled
opal musk
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but, I’m on heroic raz progression and doing well but struggle with the adds in phase 2. I am always fighting to beep aggro and lead the group out of breath. Got her to 1% last night but emended up calling it due to add phase issues in the follow up attempts to get back to phase 3
I guess I’m looking for any tips on fast aggro on the group of adds as they spawn
mighty valley
Yeah - you should generally have all your burst CDs or your aoe taunt for each pack
opal musk
Use it on the first pack. Second I thunderclap one side and dragon the other. 3rd pack is a crap shoot
mighty valley
Some of it is lining up with your dps - hopefully they're doing their massive aoe burst at the same time as you
Have you got any good burst trinkets?
opal musk
No. And I think that my problem is gear, I’m 404 and most are 410 plus.
ionic fern
Definitely not gear.
modern brook
logs
opal musk
I have a grief torch from playing arms. Would that plus a ravenger do the trick for one pack?
modern brook
😠
mighty valley
You should also have avatar up for most of the entire intermission so your basic aoe threat should be high, I wouldn't waste too much time trying to run around the different parts of the pack or whatever
Then you've got taunt-leap-taunt for random stragglers
fresh igloo
for add pack threat a trinket with aoe damage would help. like whetstone.
opal musk
Ok great Thankyou. Also what is your general CD rotation for the frontal in phase 3?
ionic fern
Jeah, you should have CD's for atleast 2 out of 3 packs.
SO just AoE taunt the one you don't have it for.
Ee.
SW.
Then SW again.
Just do SW->Spell Block for example.
P3 is really short now.
opal musk
Yeah we seen 3 frontals in two attempts
mighty valley
have you got any logs? generally guilds that can reach p3 cleanly just knock it over real fast, it's the easiest part of the fight
opal musk
No logs right now but I will where we go back in tomorrow night I think
fresh igloo
yeah p3 is just a dps check, so if you're struggling there it's likely you lost too many bodies in previous phases
opal musk
Yeah I think if I can clean up add phase we will be solid into the rest of the encounter. I’m a brand new tank that was asked to tank like 2 weeks ago so I have a lot to improve
uneven mason
What's the time in frontals I thought it was possible to sw each one
fresh igloo
Yeah I think if I can clean up add phase we will be solid into the rest of the e...
probably should review your basics then. make sure you have good uptime on shield block, make sure you're not overcapping rage (burn it on IP), make sure you're not missing shield slam resets
opal musk
Yeah I need to clean up so much ! Sometimes I get rage starved and I feel like I should probably be swimming in it. Like I said I’m swimming in the deepens due to our tank dropping due to RLStuff
ionic fern
Sounds like you are playing the class incorrectly.
Spamming IP or Revenges too much.
Or not using SS/TC on CD.
pallid quiver
Also, if you're running Barbaric Training, that does not help you in your rage spending endeavors
warm plinth
modern brook
daring marlin
@warm plinth hey pinky rogue didn't you also get portals first week like I did in S1 and not a year later?
warm plinth
In dragonflight?
modern brook
damn ghash getin bullied today
warm plinth
Oh, I don't remember that long ago so idfk lol
I can't imagine I did though. Don't think I ever have gotten them week 1
opal musk
Any suggestions for builds? Or wowhead/icy veins ok to start with?
fresh igloo
pins has some good info
daring marlin
I can't imagine I did though. Don't think I ever have gotten them week 1
Miscommunication. Week one that they were available!
outer solstice
any tips for diurna add tanking? these adds hurt sooooo hard
any useful setup with the onyx ring?
limpid anchor
any tips for diurna add tanking? these adds hurt sooooo hard
Link log
The only time they hurt is when you move from spawn 3 to 4 and get double bleed debuffs
Besides that the adds are chill
lone eagle
What's the time in frontals I thought it was possible to sw each one
Exactly 1 minute apart, so lust can help you potentially do multiple shield walls but
Better to just alternate Spell Block and Shield Wall; it really doesn't need much DR to be forced to its minimum damage value
just pressing basic buttons as pwar + Shield Wall or Spell Block alone will make it only do like 15-20% of the raid's health
limpid anchor
(Sw fits for every frontal)
I don’t see a reason to use spell block on raz hc, if sw isn’t up demon + sr + def are enough anyway
latent steppe
how do you guys welcome S2 Prot Warr set bonuses guys? am i the only one who thinks its completely Trash for m+
latent steppe
it get me cold towards my prot warr tbh, probably gonna re-roll to prot pal
pallid quiver
I mean
limpid anchor
I doubt that thgey won’t buff it
limpid anchor
If a tier set is the reason to reroll, you should
latent steppe
nah, its also the playstyle
limpid anchor
Then just reroll
pallid quiver
Like
It's the same playstyle, but you press our worst defensive on CD instead now
So just reroll
You just don't like prot war
limpid anchor
But it’s s tier!
chilly brook
it get me cold towards my prot warr tbh, probably gonna re-roll to prot pal
Bruh
If this is what makes you reroll you literally just didn’t like the class
mighty valley
"we have to press LS on CD now!!" - people who didn't play the banner glory days
pallid quiver
I thought about addng that part to my statement about pressing it on CD
modern brook
Ppl are gunna go from 0 ls casts to like 15
pallid quiver
Bold of you to assume the people pressing 0 times can track their CDs properly
modern brook
Spamming ip and holding slam charges
Like we were meta for a whole half a season
And people still aren't pressing sb
The teir set is the least of their problems
chilly brook
Like we were meta for a whole half a season
We were meta for a whole expansion and people weren’t pressing shield block in BfA
modern brook
I'm sayin
Teir sets lame yes but ppl conplaing cause it adjusts their rotation barely are just coping
Trying to justify their next fotm reroll
sick sentinel
new ssd time
modern brook
L drive
sick sentinel
usb 3 slots don't want to work.... i think? so i have to transfer at usb 1 speeds for now
chilly brook
“Oh man, prot pally is so good man I just don’t know if I can stomach playing prot warrior anymore with the bad tier set”
Meanwhile they’re doing their weekly +10
nocturne spindle
daring marlin
Meanwhile they’re doing their weekly +10
modern brook
Meanwhile they’re doing their weekly +10
How am I supposed to doom in spec channels if I'm doing a 15?
daring marlin
Just horse to the runes wdym bruv
chilly brook
Just horse to the runes wdym bruv
Your 5 second horse at that
daring marlin
that horse duration was so needed like holy shit
sick sentinel
yeah, will have 2 x 2 tb instead of 2 x 500gb + others for m.2s now
can finally maybe install full steam library now
shrewd grove
Meanwhile they’re doing their weekly +10
"Prot Warrior just doesn't have the same utility as prot pally" as they don't BoP any mechanics and only WoG themself
chilly brook
"Prot Warrior just doesn't have the same utility as prot pally" as they don't Bo...
big true
crystal mauve
https://www.wowhead.com/news/weekly-season-2-mythic-affixes-update-explosive-rem...
I have an idea for sanguine - make it that sanguine heal a specific amount and it can be soaked by players too. You won’t have those stupid CC immun caster bathing in it for 15sec channel… You have a counter play, everyone is involved with the affix!
dusky canopy
I really like that idea
Have the pool soak up similar to fire on council
Except damage based instead of how many times you step into it of course
warm plinth
I would just like to see sanguine get the bolstering treatment on bosses where it doesn't heal them
dusky canopy
Agreed
daring marlin
I would just like to see sanguine get the bolstering treatment on bosses where i...
SERIOUSLY
warm plinth
I think the affix is fine otherwise personally
crystal mauve
I would just like to see sanguine get the bolstering treatment on bosses where i...
My suggestion of capped healing and soakable by played would fix that too. Where do we start a petition??
warm plinth
idk I don't think we want to force people to stand in a little circle or end up with keys being done that are otherwise impossible because you have sanguine that week
crystal mauve
idk I don't think we want to force people to stand in a little circle or end up ...
I don’t mean to force soak all puddles, that would be doable if one add standing in one and you want to have a counter play to it. With perfect play you have no soaking to do, in case something goes wrong, you can have a counter play that’s reasonable and make more sense too, everyone soak up the blood
You would open more routes on sanguine weeks essentially
warm plinth
So let me clarify, the puddle would heal players right
mighty valley
that doesn't seem like much of an affix?
well i guess if there's a new paradigm that could be something
warm plinth
Yeah my confusion is like...if you could just stand under the mobs as they die and soak the puddle, how is it an affix
mighty valley
if they work as they do now - damage players and heal enemies - then it could be a choice to be like "take a lot of damage to soak the puddle faster"
tbh it's already on the upper end of affix complexity
warm plinth
I just feel like by the time you got people in the puddle to soak it, you could've just moved the mob out anyway
mighty valley
yeah this just sounds like overcomplicating the affix for the edge cases where you get immovable casters standing in it
which like
that's the only interesting part of the gameplay, right, moving enemies in advance so they don't do that
warm plinth
Right, without the positioning requirement it's basically nothing
mighty valley
although i still have bad memories of putting an infinite puddle on a Shrine of the Storm tentacle
warm plinth
Man the 60 second sanguine was just your heart sinking knowing there's nothing you can do 😂
noble spindle
alche trinket is bad for prot?
warm plinth
It's not bad. It's just not really good either
noble spindle
being decent is enough for now as my recent 70 war has nothing to use there at the moment and i didnt want to waste a spark if it was bad
so i recon haste > versa?
noble spindle
ye, my plan is lariat, alche stone, swordy and shield
mighty valley
there's like three weeks left
tropic gorge
i need another damn spark
warm plinth
Does anyone have any idea how the actual obtaining of sparks is going to happen in 10.1? They've been kinda vague about it it seems like?
noble spindle
i think it will be same as now
warm plinth
I know you need like 2 of the fragments or whatever, but they don't say where to obtain those
noble spindle
rare drop from elite and raid boss
mighty valley
you have to say your prayers irl
warm plinth
Ah, that's a bummer
I've only seen 1 spark the entire time they've been able to drop and I play 5 different toons :/
noble spindle
i droped one on my main and each week one drop during the raid
tropic gorge
ive seen 0 😦
warm plinth
Like you get one every week from raid? @noble spindle
noble spindle
Like you get one every week from raid? <@233154963851837440>
my group, not me
hardy snow
so... at 418 it gives 56 vers per ally currently, then the buff is like 2vers total? XD
mighty valley
i presume this is a flat 1% vers rather than increasing the rating by 1%
weird that they're mixed though
hardy snow
why even bother doing such "buff"?
crude notch
They did it across the board for almost all the embellishments.
urban portal
It’s so that it’s “worse” once we have more gear
urban portal
i presume this is a flat 1% vers rather than increasing the rating by 1%
There’s no way they are giving us 5% vers on an embellishment
mighty valley
yeah i realized after i said it
but my brain was like "a 1% buff on a single part of a single item sounds completely negligible"
which it is, but the other version is a little insane
warm plinth
Yeah super weird that they'd bother lol
prisma crane
yea i mean 1% buff on something that's like 1% dmg already is just... odd
daring marlin
lol
zinc valley
So the same crafted gear we have now can be upgraded next season
fresh igloo
yes
prisma crane
yes
zinc valley
Ok and do we know cut off for converting tier gear?
Like it has to obv be new season dungeon gear I'm assuming?
fresh igloo
season 2 gear to catalyze to season 2 tier? yeah pretty sure that will be the case
zinc valley
Ok boo. I heard we will get charges immediately
warm plinth
Well, we get charges without having to do anything for them. But not until week 7
And then if you get like...heroic raid, 2200 M+ score, or some level of PvP rating, you get a free tier piece
pallid quiver
I've only seen 1 spark the entire time they've been able to drop and I play 5 di...
Traitor
I still haven't gotten any
crude notch
Correct.
slow harbor
Did that change recently?
crude notch
Yes it was noted in the profession changes for today's build.
slow harbor
ty
daring marlin
I've only seen 1 spark the entire time they've been able to drop and I play 5 di...
Same boat here bro
Three characters tho not 5
madlad
empty locust
Does anyone know if there is a mob ID spreadsheet anywhere for the new dungeons? Looking to make a automarker
violet flume
really, i got like 3 sparks
did 8 m+ a week
havent seen one since i dropped to 4 though
i did see one as a world quest reward on an alt, hadnt done much on him except crafting orders for my main
zinc valley
Well, we get charges without having to do anything for them. But not until week...
Will our tier sets be valid?
our current ones
or do they just disappear
as in not apply
mighty valley
They stick around afaik
zinc valley
Ok yeah so why would someone do normal raid when the gear lvl is horrible
even heroic first few bosses is same ilvl as now
daring marlin
Will our tier sets be valid?
They nerfed current fdk 2pc when 10.1 comes out so
zinc valley
sorry brother whats fdk
zinc valley
ah i get what u mjean
they are making changes for current stuff so must mean it will be used
warm plinth
Will our tier sets be valid?
They've always stuck around in the past but we haven't had two tier sets in a row since Legion so who knows
zinc valley
okay so there really isnt a rush to get "lower ilvl new tier"
as in if i have 421 current, and 411 drops. of new tier....thats a loss
feels like the ilvl balance isnt that good
but it is the same as SL i see
fresh igloo
if you have 421 ilvl gear and you're getting 411 drops then you already vastly out gear the content you're doing.
this will continue to be true in season 2.
misty moss
If you’re at 410+ you’ll want to go straight to heroic in S2 I would imagine.
fresh igloo
season 2 heroic raid gear ilvl starts at .. 428 looks like.
misty moss
Yeah, so 410-415 shouldn’t have much difficulty getting it done. Likely no different than a 390 going into heroic now.
daring marlin
New normal raid is usually previous tier's mythic ilvl so you can still get upgrades in normal maybe lol
fresh igloo
yeah. normal raid gear is gonna start at 415 and scale up to 431 for the "very rare" drops
misty moss
As long as M+ drops can be converted to raid tier, raid will always be a secondary focus for optimal gearing.
Which isn’t a bad thing
As M+ is much more widely available
zinc valley
yeah feels like 7 weeks into it is annoying
pallid quiver
The answer to that for me is:
"Is new raid easy to pug?"
If not, I an't getting aotc
I still haven't even put the effort to see Raz, even in LFR
warm plinth
I have not seen a single raid boss this tier, unless you count seeing people with the Rasz dragonriding skin 😂
pallid quiver
I hit Eggnog to my Kellogs for the first four weeks or so
Then I just stopped
got the fire ring week 1 off heroic eggnog, even
pallid quiver
Eranog to Kurog
daring marlin
warm plinth
oh
pallid quiver
If you aren't renaming raid bosses to food products, are you even living?
warm plinth
Idk but I have chockie milk
pallid quiver
I just casually looked at Brood and went, "i dont wanna pug that"
So I've never entered Brood or Raz at all
sick sentinel
at least the wow copy i sent to HDD survived
yeah, wrork great besides gotta put it to SSD again
knotty vortex
we still doing frostfire belt and lariat for next season?
pallid quiver
The reason we did Frostfire over the others was because it could proc the raid rings if you had them. Otherwise, before any tuning that can still take place, they were all roughly the same
So if things stay the same,
Pick whichever, they're all roughly the same
warm plinth
Some tuning happened today I believe, but I don't think any of it makes a big difference
It was all pretty small numbers
except the healing darts thing
shrewd grove
I still haven't even put the effort to see Raz, even in LFR
But Vault is incredibly easy to PUG? AOTC with pugs was super obtainable
pallid quiver
Yeah but like
Raiding is boring
So if it's effort past the amount I care to put in for how much fun I'm not having
i just don't do it
I might think about it if I DPS'd possibly but I still haven't gotten a two hander drop other than one from a timewalking dungeon
twin bramble
Struggling to learn cos route. Quick question. What’s the best way to get from the area of 16 to the area of 18 without pulling the Pat in front of boss? Hug the fountain? Run through building behind boss?
pallid quiver
If I do that, I usually just run through building behind boss
Kinda depends on what packs the DPS have their asses magnet to
twin bramble
Lol. That’s my prob. I can’t find good route. Everything I do, someone ass pulls something in pug.
Not looking for anything perfect. Just something to help me learn it from key 11-16
pallid quiver
Just wing it. Sometimes you get the item spawns that get you less percent
Just have enough ti get to 100% with the last dreadlord and you're good
That's like 96% iirc
pallid quiver
The mini boss you fight after the spy minigame
sick sentinel
i haye cos on many levels
pallid quiver
Yeah, the vampiric claws dude
sick sentinel
its very confusing to me mostly why
twin bramble
Thanks. Yeah I started wow a month ago.
Putting a ton of time learning and have gotten 7 dungeons down pretty good. Cos is killing me.
pallid quiver
Yeah, CoS just kinda happens
It has rng spawns that can influence your percentage, so it's best to just not fuss over route too much
sick sentinel
its and older dungeon too
pallid quiver
You can always go back and kill more
twin bramble
No matter which route I do, I get toxic people complain about pulls. Haven’t had a complaint in any other dungeon lol
twin bramble
It has rng spawns that can influence your percentage, so it's best to just not f...
Thanks for the advice
sick sentinel
so it may notcarry the szme design concrptsand philioshopies
tuned to legion tanks healers dps and those specs
thrown into generic number go up blenderthen why dont it work
twin bramble
That's like 96% iirc
Does 93.7 ring a bell?
warm plinth
Struggling to learn cos route. Quick question. What’s the best way to get from t...
The only packs I tend not to pull is the bridge and the pack patrolling by the boss. I always pull both imp packs because they're just too dangerous to not pull intentionally. Other than that, pull what you need for count. You don't have to stress about it as much as a lot of people do.
sick sentinel
you know that stick in kids bike meme, thats what it is but not really
pallid quiver
No matter which route I do, I get toxic people complain about pulls. Haven’t had...
This is most likely due to CoS having the reputation of being the 2nd easiest dungeon (which it is) and dps being dumb as hell when it comes to... Anything, but especially routing
twin bramble
The only packs I tend not to pull is the bridge and the pack patrolling by the b...
Thanks!!!
twin bramble
This is most likely due to CoS having the reputation of being the 2nd easiest du...
😂
sick sentinel
like, they removed some build up rp where u normally had to sit throught what, 4 water eles
twin bramble
Thanks for the advice and making me feel better guys. Appreciate you.
pallid quiver
Does 93.7 ring a bell?
Yeah, he gives like 6.5% or something, the last guy
warm plinth
The only thing you want to try to do is limit your time going back and forth, but if you're unlucky with lures/enforcer spawn, not much you can do about it 🤷
And I don't pull things to get the items unless I need the count. The dungeon isn't hard enough that any of that shit is going to matter
pallid quiver
Yeah, I'd agree with Ghash on intentionally pulling the imp packs
And same, only the lures are worth making effort to go to
warm plinth
like, they removed some build up rp where u normally had to sit throught what, 4...
It wasn't really RP. The boss (in non-M+) gets damage reduction that gets removed by killing the elementals. So as you're killing them, he takes more and more damage
sick sentinel
that would murder timers if thwy put it back in
warm plinth
Honestly I'm glad they removed it given how nasty those eles were in M+
sick sentinel
need to kill them and drops z pool after
warm plinth
yeah
Well, they wouldn't do the pool
since the M+ ones are different than the non-M+ ones
But that's still 4 eles with some blobs that you'd have to kill before the boss, which would just be a slog
mighty valley
Yeah, it was just a boring phase
The reworked boss actually came out pretty ok
Unlike the second boss which is just... bleh
warm plinth
At least they gave us the marginally more exciting of the two for the 2nd boss
pallid quiver
Big boy L right there
round pendant
oh well season is over so who cares
pallid quiver
Season's been over on my end for like a month
slow harbor
for sure, been a good push week
violet flume
season isnt truly over until you unlock all portals bro
at least that was my standard haha
violet flume
yeah i gotta admit i was a lot more work than i thought
i went 100% pug route
i think i had 140 runs when i got all +20s?
prob spent too much time at lower keys tho
late mesa
Lol. That’s my prob. I can’t find good route. Everything I do, someone ass pulls...
Try following a fixed route until the second boss. There, I usually pull the same packs regardless of where the Enforcer spawned and work out the remaining % out of items and consequential spawns. Either way, that’s the nature of CoS: sometimes you will overpull, other times you will get 100% on the dot but spend a lot of time in the spy room.
misty moss
is signet of melandrus a good ring for prot to wear instead of the titanic str?
mighty valley
yeah, ideally right now you'd run annulet and then either raid fire ring or melandrus
warm plinth
Harrow is a good boi
eager geode
Suggestion for m+ talents this week ?
warm plinth
Same as any other week
Build in the pins
@ionic fern I have been stuck with seed on my warrior for like 3 weeks now, and then my paladin also gets seed from vault this week and I have to use it because it replaced a 376 trinket 😠
also ily
warm plinth
I'm doing pretty well, thanks 🙂 How are you?
oak ivy
Mythic Broodkeeper phase 2: how tf does one not die to stoneslam later into the phase? I'm rotating SW/LS and externals from healers and what not and just flopping every single pull 
ionic fern
Mythic Broodkeeper phase 2: how tf does one not die to stoneslam later into the ...
Externals as needed.
Full IP
Etc.
Shouldn't be too hard unless you have some Wildfire stacks or something.
warm plinth
busy can be good. Hope it's productive business
oak ivy
ty mwahi
crude notch
hmmm @warm plinth know anything about this?
warm plinth
Not sure, I heard they were datamined
Makes me think of like SL catch-up gear but they were too lazy to make them separate from dungeon loot this time
I'm hoping they're just M0 though because otherwise it's relinquished tokens all over again
crude notch
I'm ready to fill my bags trying to farm ((Insert random trinket and/or weapon)).
undone verge
Mythic Broodkeeper phase 2: how tf does one not die to stoneslam later into the ...
Giga pray and butt clench the entire way
I swapped to D stance for the slam, also I still don’t know what my dk wanted me to do/ when to take the slam so I just told him to tell me when he needed me to taunt
oblique quarry
is 418 seal of filial duty > 418 crafted?
remote venture
Sim it!
oak ivy
Giga pray and butt clench the entire way
Im out here asking the council of healers "okay who has what, cuz imma need that in about 5 seconds"
ionic fern
Im out here asking the council of healers "okay who has what, cuz imma need that...
Track their CD's and be concrete :"X give me Bark".
I said "Sac me" on Diurna and got Sacs from 2 different healers and a ret pally.
oak ivy
xD
I need to sit down one day and get my MRT to track externals, and then find a place on my screen to put it
mental scarab
Standard words ”Will probl die in 5 sec help me pleas”
Then you get all the help you need
pallid quiver
I said "Sac me" on Diurna and got Sacs from 2 different healers and a ret pally.
I tried saying that once and I just got sacked to the ground
ionic fern
Would you open a file if i linked it?
ionic fern
It would end in .exe
And would add a startup script to your PC which would automatically display "ily Ghash" everytime you open your PC.
While also sending a copy of it to soda's email.
warm plinth
LMAO
ionic fern
Real question.
When typing someones name..do you add 's to the end?
Or should it be Sodas?
Soda's?
🤔
warm plinth
Soda's would be possessive, so soda's email is correct
sick sentinel
ya, if it its city or person, you add 's
crude notch
The real question is who's love is greater, Mwahi's love for Ghash or Ghash's love for Mwahi?
I'd go with Mwahi, he's bald he knows what it's truly like to lose things in life.
sick sentinel
everything is a cliche until its happening to you
you laugh at him being bald, probably you guys too some day too
crude notch
I don't laugh at Mwahi being bald at all
warm plinth
It doesn't matter whether it's a city or person
crude notch
Bald is sexy.
warm plinth
Any noun that possesses something, you would put 's after
crude notch
If my cat is playing with it's toy, I still say Coco's toy.
sick sentinel
its 6 20 and my brain doesnt fully work anyway
warm plinth
Its is actually the possessive. It's is 'it is'
crude notch
Goddamnit you're on to me.
warm plinth
English is fucking stupid
crude notch
My joke didn't work.
sick sentinel
English is fucking stupid
better than french tbh
warm plinth
On the question of whose love is greater, I believe I've said ily to Mwahi more than he's said ily to me so...
crude notch
You've lost