jadefire you cant
#protection
strong forum
toxic gyro
Don’t they have spirit link too?
prisma crane
its also pretty annoying to use on that particular fight
that fight would be MUCH better if the visual for the 4 lines showed up right as the circle spawned instead of what feels like 2 seconds later
toxic gyro
I always play with my rdruid, so I’m not very familiar with other healers
Any reason you don’t spread sr and demo? Like sr with first and demo with 2nd?
strong forum
if you demo 2nd, youll only get it for the 5th, and you wont have demo for 4th
toxic gyro
I see
strong forum
but yeh as i said just below it
SR and IV can be spread differently
but like this youll have something for pretty much every wave, 2nd wave is just a bit spicy
and obv if you dont get 5 waves you can spread it differently again
toxic gyro
I like that more than spreading sr and demo for first and 2nd and not having demo until 5
I’ll start doing bark on 2nd to make it easier
strong forum
if its only 4 you can
SW + IV
SpellBlock + Demo + SR
Spellblock IV
LS + SR + Pot or w/e (maybe SW is back up again)
toxic gyro
Not to mention that my ret friend plays with me usually so I can have sac and loh whenever
dusky canopy
Loh and bubble taunt makes that boss way chill
strong forum
also works ye
uneven mason
"always on spell block"
toxic gyro
I only did 23 this week, it was a deathless run so I’ll take it
Mari used to be my friends’ nightmare 
toxic gyro
Loh and bubble taunt makes that boss way chill
My ret took off taunt off his bars bc he taunted boss few times in raid
I made him put it back lol
sick sentinel
where is dragonsprings sumit
shrewd grove
68k DPS with the new set up!
tropic gorge
Damn nice push man
shrewd grove
Thanks! Even if NO is kinda cheating. Had like 8mil dmg from spell reflect lol
warm plinth
why is the color wrong; it took me longer than I care to admit to see you on the meter
shrewd grove
Oh, because I have "Change my color" selected for raids. We had a TON of warriors for a while
warm plinth
ahhh
warm plinth
Yeah that's better XD
tropic gorge
I'm color blind and didn't even catch that
shrewd grove
Idk what you're talking about, that's the color it's always been smh
waxen orbit
Show talents and damage breakdown
acoustic oasis
What did you do to improve?
acoustic oasis
Oh manic grief lmao oh.
sick sentinel
waxen orbit
Damn you’re cracked
sick sentinel
found some 2004 comment on urban dictioinary indirectly about wow
shrewd grove
Swapped to Eye in the Storm Phial. Had grieftorch in a run where we had 21 deaths. Got a 421 Diurna ring from vault today. Upgraded frostfire belt to 418
XD
acoustic oasis
Oh wow
warm plinth
Weird. Why does Gift of Radiance only drop for tank spec lol
shrewd grove
Also, be a warrior in NO. 8mil spell reflect XD
waxen orbit
Yea
acoustic oasis
So I personally always use the aoe silence/taunt. But I don't see alot of people doing it, is it bad? Or do you trust your companions to be good?
Because I usually play with apes (irl friends)
warm plinth
It's just...unnecessary. 🤷
waxen orbit
If the people you play with suck at interrupts then sure
warm plinth
We already have multiple other stops
waxen orbit
But if you need it it’s a skill issue
No shame in acknowledging it
Not on your end
I mean like, on the team’s end
warm plinth
Like at a certain key level, the other people in your group just have to not be terrible
acoustic oasis
..... I can't say that last part tho lmao
Not without the drama.
Understood though, I'll see if I can convince them to not disappoint me
shrewd grove
Between pummel/shockwave/int shout I find it covers most of my bases. Some dungeons I grab storm bolt as well. But I tend to stay away from Disrupting Shout because it is a very helpful CD for snapping adds off people if they buttpull, or get aggro when DPS unload on a pull too early. And you lose the ability to do that when you have to save it for interrupts
waxen orbit
^^^
shrewd grove
Basically you have 3/4 options to interrupt casts, but only 1 option to snap AoE threat onto yourself
By taking that talent you lose the 1 AoE taunt and gain an extra interrupt you shouldn't really need
warm plinth
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't lose Challenging Shout to take Disrupting Shout. Aren't they separate spells?
warm plinth
Oh, interesting. It was separate on beta. Guess it was changed.
shrewd grove
waxen orbit
It's just not really worth
warm plinth
I know it still taunts; I thought they were still separate spells.
shrewd grove
Ah I see
waxen orbit
It's an additional talent point dumped into a utility you don't need that could have otherwise been spent on something for damage/survivability/stormbolt
acoustic oasis
Understood
shrewd grove
That said. Not going to stop you from progressing if you take it, and it can absolutely be helpful
I have used it in raid progression on Dathea for instance
waxen orbit
Whatever works works
shrewd grove
^
waxen orbit
Part of success is accounting for your weakest link, if we're being honest
I know, huge turn of character coming from me judging from how I was in SL, but still
acoustic oasis
Yeah I'm 2500+, stopped pushing once I hit that threshold hold 8/8heroic 2/8 mythic, I'd say I use it well.
I got some players in my usual group who just....don't want to be team players so I usually do it.
shrewd grove
Yeah, that's perfectly valid then
jagged pier
sir u need to press revenge more
shrewd grove
Me?
acoustic oasis
I am still salty I have never seen a single manic grief torch drop outside of last week, that thing looks fun to use.
shrewd grove
I am still salty I have never seen a single manic grief torch drop outside of la...
It is a blast
shrewd grove
I was just reading that. Never been more sad my guild isn't planning on pushing CE
Basically a joke to get it at this point
acoustic oasis
My guild got 2/8, and 7/20 instantly stepped away. We haven't recovered :^)))))
undone verge
Yeah, we had it dead within 3 weeks but this might just mean we kill it this week
jagged pier
theyve had to do this because they are making the season giga short
1k guilds still havent even killed raz yet
and its usually around 2kish
by season end
undone verge
Yeah, we might even get a second kill for the people who are sitting on our first at this point
shrewd grove
Need a tank? 😄
shrewd grove
Yeah, I was casting Revenge too much, and not enough thunder clap. May have overcompensated the other way. 343 TC casts, 236 Revenge casts
strong forum
I usually have the same amount of revenge and TC casts over a dungeon
But I also underuse TC a bit
warm plinth
Nome, please explain Blizzard logic of Gift of Radiance being a tank spec only trinket
warm plinth
tropic gorge
When is this
warm plinth
I got it traded to me on my baby hunter yesterday and noticed when I was simming the trinket I got today from vault, it said "this trinket may not be intended for your spec" 😂
I was like wut
shrewd grove
Same reason you have to open the vault as Arms/Fury to get any of the good trinkets as Prot
Blizz is dumb
tropic gorge
I've been hoping the all totem comes out of my vault. But since it's the end, I'm gonna open the rest as fury
odd tree
also would like all totem
sick sentinel
forced to do pve pet battles for tendies
odd tree
but 421 wep would be nice
undone verge
When is this
Today
tropic gorge
Ah I just learned it's a mythic difficulty change. Oh well
sullen cipher
guys how do u feel about us prot warr's in high m+ for next season
strong forum
2nd or 3rd
warm plinth
Still 🙏 for the 4pc to be during LS and not after 😠
strong forum
Pally #1
Brew/bdk/pwar #2
Brew/bdk/pwar #3
jagged pier
Still 🙏 for the 4pc to be during LS and not after 😠
u want bliz to do work and change and test stuff in a month when they still havent done raid testing XD
strong forum
Unless they don't fix bear
warm plinth
Eh, different devs, it could happen
strong forum
If they fix bear tierset, they'll be #1 or #2
sullen cipher
Pally #1
Brew/bdk/pwar #2
Brew/bdk/pwar #3
im playing mostly pugs and they fuckig nalways want meta do u think is it worth to swap to pala for m+ tanking ? or we are totaly fine ?
sullen cipher
cuz its hard to find gps even at this point
strong forum
I despise fotm cringing
sullen cipher
they al say fuckign pal pala pala
strong forum
With a passion
modern brook
General rule of thumb
strong forum
Only thing I can recommend is making friends and play with them
modern brook
If a group isn't inviting you cause ur not a meta spec
warm plinth
It's not like pwar is garbage all of a sudden. We literally haven't changed
modern brook
You dodged a bullet not being in thay group
strong forum
Pugs are stupid
modern brook
Esp tank side
strong forum
Reminder that it took 3months for people to catch on that pally is good 🙂
sullen cipher
thats true also ❤️
devout umbra
TBF Prot War typically S tier for Fortified M+
sick sentinel
pugs are highly volatile is how i would say it
you can get an extremely good pug group followed byt extremely bad pug group
devout umbra
tidal bronze
Hi guys, how do the spell reflect interact with the absorb on Kurog ? Is there something we can do with it
candid sage
Is anyone here able to explain to me how spell blocking works? I've trying to find any resources online but there doesn't seem to be anything. More specifically, here's some question I had:
- Spell block says "you are able to block spells". I imagine this is the same % chance to block as a normal block right?
- Are there any spells you cannot block?
- Are you able to block only magical spells?
- How would spell block and block work on a spell like this: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=384476/rain-of-arrows since it does physical damage, I imagine your normal block would take effect, so are you blocking twice?
- How does it interact with beam spells like Wash Away from Mari or Hyrja's beam? Are you block each tick?
- What about dots, can you block the dots spell, or are you blocking each tick?
I see the Google sheets but I wanted some more explanation 🙂
sick sentinel
it works on fireball type spells that target you first an isn't like a circle they put on the ground
strong forum
cant block dots, only direct hits, you can block some floor effects, not all of them, you can generally block aoe hits, you can block beams and will continue to block each tick of it if it does so
sick sentinel
and then it goes through normal block calcuations and it can go to 100% of the value unlike melee at 85%
strong forum
rain of arrows i dont think is blockable, its a physical attack so its subject to regular block not spellblock
sick sentinel
so, the amount it can take is whatever is listed on your shield, or double that in the case that you crit block
strong forum
okay nvm
rain of arrows is blockable, but like i said
physical so no spellblock needed
candid sage
Alright, thanks everyone!
strong forum
eeeh i would be cautious with that, floor effects are always 50-50
but i found out that you can spellblock the puddles that the blueberries in smbg throw out 
modern brook
I do
and then everyone credit'd IP off GCD for warriors comeback in season 2
it was glorious
blazing condor
true
modern brook
It was right during the viable era
strong forum
that era still exists
modern brook
yeah but its bears problem now
strong forum
had a discussion that ended in the other persons ban, about what "viable" means
his "viable" meant top 8 specs in the game
blazing condor
mod abuse 
modern brook
imagine not being in the top 8 tank specs
strong forum
nah he means in general
blazing condor
imagine not being the top 8 general
blazing condor
🫡
modern brook
I miss viable era, the true one at least
modern brook
i miss whatever it was that made it all worth it
it was the crown bro
blazing condor
shut summit
sullen cipher
btw they saying they gona intrduce third talent for evoker and its tank do u think its right ? xD i kinda want to see that dragon tank is kinda cool
modern brook
whose they
sullen cipher
saw some vidoe and reddit about that
blazing condor
are "they" in the discord channel with us right now? 
sick sentinel
if you purchase the alliance libram from the trading post as a horde character a goblin says "hmmm interesting"
sullen cipher
haha xD na i dont think so but in general i think if it would be the case its fun
strong forum
i miss whatever it was that made it all worth it
"being the underdog and btfo naysayers"
was and is pretty much my biggest motivation
modern brook
I mostly miss the absolute coping over gorefiends grasp
modern brook
there has been 2 thinngs worth it in the trading post since its launch
jagged pier
EGGBOB
sick sentinel
im gunna freeze that sindorei book tho
strong forum
egbob bis
odd tree
btw they saying they gona intrduce third talent for evoker and its tank do u thi...
i thought it was support a couple weeks ago, "they" need to get their shit straight
sick sentinel
i really like how that looks for potentially caster of BE
uncut helm
Yogi, you really did Egbob dirty.
sick sentinel
yeah, well, i don't normally do the pokemon battle stuff
modern brook
its eggbob yogi
candid sage
Ranged tank when?
strong forum
thats impossible to balance
cobalt stream
whats the best weapon enchant for prot for pve
sick sentinel
calling it now, first week with VP + vines affix is going to be one of the biggest bitching fests we have ever seen on this discord
pallid quiver
I'd like Eggbob more if I engaged with the pet battle system, because as it is, I don't see my pets often, especially when they get told to fuck off by the game and I don't notice
because damn eggbob coo
sick sentinel
tyranical more specfically
strong forum
S2 will be a shit show for a while
dusky canopy
I was about to say
strong forum
Unless they unzip some big changes
dusky canopy
Everything season 2 is going to be bitching fest everywhere
sick sentinel
100% there will be GIGA MALDERS in this very chat even
warm plinth
I got a grieftorch from weekly on my hunter 
blazing condor
Ranged tank when?
thats just DH S1 of SL
sick sentinel
freehold will be just fine
pallid quiver
I got a grieftorch from weekly on my hunter <:yep:703420923625078804>
dupe glitch it and give me one?
sick sentinel
only hard part at all about FH is if its the dog week
and then convincing your druid who says he can do it out side the dungeon but once inside says he cant
fuick you i will never forget you
dusky canopy
I’m excited for freehold again definitely
warm plinth
Need me to give resets in keys?
pallid quiver
On the topic of the weekly timewalking quest, when are they adding more timewalking raids zzzzz
I want to fool myself into believing I'm living in better times
dusky canopy
Gamin
sick sentinel
i literal did those 5 tw in 1 hour today
dusky canopy
Lettts goooo
sick sentinel
just holdw W and giga pull
dusky canopy
Yogi did last boss tjs slap
warm plinth
anyone got that grieftorch WA link? 👀
dusky canopy
Like they said earlier
sick sentinel
shield wall maybe at start if its scary mobs
sullen cipher
i hate this f explosives man
warm plinth
If you stand in the touch of nothingness, you die
It's hilarious
Like 1-shot from 100% HP
dusky canopy
Helllll yeah
prisma crane
cant block dots, only direct hits, you can block *some* floor effects, not all o...
blocking Odin's aoe is kinda fun
dusky canopy
Peak timewalking content
sick sentinel
world of warcraft relies heavily too much on giant purple and fire circles that "you touched it so your dead"
prisma crane
warm plinth
well in M+ it's not a circle on the ground
modern brook
100% there will be GIGA MALDERS in this very chat even
90% of this chat at a given time is trolling for reassurance that a pug key failed for pug reasons
warm plinth
It's the DoT that gets dispelled
prisma crane
lol
just something fun to know in case you're stuck in the circle cuz you fucked up and have spell block
dusky canopy
Wait wait no way does it reflect?
warm plinth
we love crit spell block
dusky canopy
It just deflects right
prisma crane
deflect, yea
warm plinth
what deflects
dusky canopy
I was about to pog out lul
prisma crane
odin's aoe
modern brook
But then u don't get the big b
sick sentinel
i dunno wtf it was
warm plinth
Since when is that reflectable
modern brook
Since when is that reflectable
Since the incident
prisma crane
But then u don't get the big b
yep, reminds me of our shenanigans on M Aggramar, if you wanted a HUGE block, you had to only use stuff that increased your health pool or absorbs, no DRs
sick sentinel
but i was in that 16 rlp and i got thundered and i was coming off it taking the dmg and then something smack for 130 ish k and i knew it wasnt the thunder
but whatever that was it killed me
dusky canopy
dusky canopy
I think it’s been a few hours since a complaint about ptr explosives has been filed so here it goes
Ptr explosives trash
Still healer affix
sick sentinel
dont it got 500k hp
loud patrol
Still healer affix
for now
prisma crane
depending on how that's tuned
it may still be better to just full blown aoe
and ignore them
oblique kayak
it may still be better to just full blown aoe
this
warm plinth
I actually don't hate the idea
oblique kayak
same
warm plinth
Easy swap specs swap to the orb, the rest ignore it and you just deal with the remainder if it's not dead
prisma crane
the only good thing about that idea is that it no longer becomes binary
someone putting 90% dmg into one is no longer just lost dmg
warm plinth
yeah
dusky canopy
But wait does it still do group damage?
prisma crane
i still think they should just scrap the affix, but w/e
warm plinth
The whole point of them changing explosive was to make it not the healer's job
oblique kayak
let it do both lol
dusky canopy
Imo at first thought the idea is better now that I know it’s swapping for the damage component
But like
Does it split the absorb amongst all targets
oblique kayak
even better - if they explode let them shield - if they die 5% dmg boost
prisma crane
it almost has to be dynamic
loud patrol
imagine if the dmg stays
dusky canopy
Or does it do for example 30% of the orbs remaining health as an absorb on each target
prisma crane
but
loud patrol
like dmg and shield
prisma crane
lets do this
sick sentinel
kiss curse could be is if you are successfull in "killing" the explosive, it instead provides a shit load of healing to the group
prisma crane
lets say it's 100 hp for simple numbers
and lets say 100% of hp is split or sent to all mobs
oblique kayak
kiss curse could be is if you are successfull in "killing" the explosive, it ins...
yeah - more 4pm groups
prisma crane
100% of hp to a single target has zero reason to EVER swap
100% of hp split to targets has zero reason to EVER swap
sick sentinel
dunno what 4pm groups is sry
prisma crane
100% of hp to many targets you obviously gain more and more by swapping
dusky canopy
So imagine 3 explosives go off each applying a individual absorb shield to each mob left in the pack
Kinda yikes
prisma crane
would have to be more than 100% to ST and less than 100% to multiple targets otherwise it'll be always ignored in ST and too strong in AoE
dusky canopy
If it’s individual absorbs
sick sentinel
its important that the explosive can never spawn off a platform say
where only range dps can hit or u have to heroic throw
prisma crane
individual absorbs? as in to a single mob out of a group of mobs?
its phrased where it would shield everything in combat
dusky canopy
Like let’s say this explosives ends at 120k hp now each mob gets 120k absorb added to its health bar?
prisma crane
i don't see a way they can tune it without being dynamic % that would ever work
sick sentinel
fire is etremely volatile byt nature, so a a short basic absorbtion
pallid quiver
I think they should make it so that if an explosive goes off, the DPS players just get -100% damage and the the tank and healer gets +500% damage and healing. It also adds a stacking debuff that makes it so that DPS players get a higher chance of no loot at the end of the dungeon
thin silo
200% remaining health of orb, split between all mobs
prisma crane
it would have to be something like 200% of remaining health to all enemies, split
sick sentinel
key word on short
dusky canopy
Ok “split”
prisma crane
unless you have really good funnel
grave flower
Quick poll outside of sims and all that but for Mythic tanking purposes how many of y’all did haste vers on your crafted gear. If not that did you do haste crit?
dusky canopy
If it’s split I’m interested
grave flower
Just want anecdotal responses
prisma crane
the larger the aoe, the less impactful the split gets
thin silo
maybe sqrt split
pallid quiver
I went haste/vers at one point because sims said it was higher DPS when I was crafting near the start
prisma crane
Quick poll outside of sims and all that but for Mythic tanking purposes how many...
haste vers on my old shit, but all haste crit now
pallid quiver
almost all of my crafts were haste/crit tho
thin silo
full haste/crit here
grave flower
Makes sense
dusky canopy
Quick poll outside of sims and all that but for Mythic tanking purposes how many...
Haste/Crit, raid fights managed properly won’t require high Vers
prisma crane
maybe sqrt split
that can cause MASSIVE problems if you pull something like lasher room in AA though
thin silo
well then you'd better blow up the orb
prisma crane
yea but that's a bad design
these orbs cannot be blown up
and if you have 100 mobs
you could get the orbs to 5% and still have problems with anything using squares
grave flower
I really want to keep my shit haste mastery so I can fury off spec. Got up to 52% mastery and feeling like a god. But guild wants me to tank full time in raids
prisma crane
nvm the fact that explosives are STILL a pain the ass to target
prisma crane
especially for anyone using default UI (which is how they should be designing around)
thin silo
I really want to keep my shit haste mastery so I can fury off spec. Got up to 5...
you'll be fine with haste/mastery if the ilvl is there
the difference in stats isn't so much that it'll hamstring you
prisma crane
noice
thin silo
and if you have 100 mobs
hot take: smaller pulls on those weeks then
dusky canopy
nvm the fact that explosives are STILL a pain the ass to target
Yeah maybe they will let us macro target them again
That should be suggested if anyone has contacts
prisma crane
hot take: smaller pulls on those weeks then
yes, but currently you can outplay huge pulls, in your scenario it's literally impossible, and that's terrible game design
mighty valley
explosives are a pain in the ass to target because there's a million of them and they spawn frequently, if both of those go down it's nowhere near as bad
dusky canopy
Fair point definitely
prisma crane
idk if you watched the MDI at all, or play with default UI
but GL targeting anything quickly when you already have like 8 mobs in a pull
they straight up overlap
mighty valley
in the MDI they do the biggest pulls on god's green earth, at the current explosive spawn rate
prisma crane
i only brought up the MDI to illustrate the limitations of default nameplates
mighty valley
i mean that's a conversation that no one's ready for
prisma crane
you're not even playing unsafe by doing a fairly large pull in start of AA
mighty valley
"is the game actually better when doing huge pulls is the norm"
prisma crane
first off yes
dusky canopy
I can’t wait for 3-4 explosives to spawn and apply a giant fucking shield to the 10 mobs I’m tanking that are almost dead AND are CC DRd
prisma crane
secondly, not having them easy (and i mean EASY) to instantly target when time on them matters is a problem
and one that stuff like Plater clearly helps a lot with
but blizz cannot design around players having that
dusky canopy
Plater is definitely nice for explosives makes them very obvious in my profile
Default ui users must hate it
prisma crane
anything that's just additional clutter to play around is just bad design
until they can find a way to distil the information to players more clearly
mighty valley
there are a billion time-sensitive mob abilities that demand that you target them
mighty valley
i mean. you're literally doing that by pulling bigger
prisma crane
i could do a pull with 5 casters more "clearly" than a pull in Plaguefall with purely slimes that only melee and die with puddles
mighty valley
if you pull three packs, there are three times as many things that are important to target (in some generic scenario)
prisma crane
not all pulls in dungeons are small
and a timer necessitates larger pulls
you cannot expect players to single pack pull all dungeons
dusky canopy
Don’t want to be in that world ^
prisma crane
it just also doesnt work
player dps doesnt scale enough to keep up with key scaling to pull that way
mighty valley
this is why i'm saying it's a bigger conversation - all of this is couched in how the dungeons and the system is currently set up, i'm talking about if blizzard stepped back and tried to think "what do we think an ideal dungeon experience looks like"
all signs point to them discouraging your average player from having 20 healthbars on screen at a time, and not really caring what people at +25s and up are getting up to
prisma crane
sure, but im entirely referring to horrible affix choices when viewed in the context of a UI that clearly doesnt support the problems the affixes create
killing the explosive should be the "skill check" not being able to target it in the first place
mighty valley
yeah. i mean, on the micro scale, they've said they're going to drastically reduce the number of explosives that can spawn. and i hope they go further
prisma crane
it still doesnt change the fact that dungeons have huge mob counts even when pulled one pack at a time
mighty valley
but like, it sounds like you're close to advocating for "no affixes should create things you have to target because the UI doesn't support it at 20+ pull size"
mighty valley
yeah, they could tie things like explosives to numbers of some definition of "key enemies" rather than just mob count total
potent gulch
Bruh baited
i used heal ring, 16k hps on raid with it!
prisma crane
and i think that unless there's a separate side box of targets to select (like boss frames) they shouldnt do it
cinder storm
The novelty of m+ might be dying, people have WAs and add-ons ready and know what they need after 4 xpacs. The nzoth nightmares had the right idea, make dungeons like nightmares/rifts that you can complete in solo, duo, or 5 man
prisma crane
6 of the 10 affixes have no additional targets, 1 you could argue doesnt matter because it's spiteful (unless combined with explosive, however i dont believe spiteful mobs can spawn orbs
mighty valley
personally, beyond explosive, i think the game is less varied and interesting when the normal behavior is huge pulls, because that kind of implies that individual enemies can't be presenting particularly interesting challenges
sick sentinel
The novelty of m+ might be dying, people have WAs and add-ons ready and know wha...
it might be dying, 50k + viewers for MDI
mighty valley
but that's not the sort of thing to reconsider piecemeal, which it sort of seems like they have been
sick sentinel
i mean like, chose 1 really
prisma crane
personally, beyond explosive, i think the game is less varied and interesting wh...
i disagree, because if you want to argue skill, then that's where you can express it, managing large multi packs, something that a dungeon like HoV does right
cinder storm
The hardest part of running m+ is realistically how good other people play
prisma crane
instead of a key where every pull has 6 mobs that cast and each caster has 3 different casts and 1 cast isnt a big deal, 1 is a pain and 1 is instant wipe
and then you have range players with 30 sec interrupts and GG
mighty valley
i don't think targeting a guy to kick in a pack of 20 is a particularly fun skill test, is the thing
and that's half of the HoV big pulls
Legion was like 90% frontals and/or kiting huge trains
prisma crane
i dont either, but HoV big pulls adds one of those per pack you drag together
robust lark
Hey guys, so I'm running Mythic vault tonight with a new guild I only ran M Keurig with (and only got him to 1% last week) and want to build my talents to be the 100% most tankiest tank possible. Before I go through and adjust them, I was wondering if anyone had a purely 100% defensive build...looking into just survivability
dusky canopy
If anything having to target 1 guy out of 20 to kick isn’t really a skill test at all
prisma crane
Hey guys, so I'm running Mythic vault tonight with a new guild I only ran M Keur...
its almost identical to the dmg one
mighty valley
If anything having to target 1 guy out of 20 to kick isn’t really a skill test a...
well, it gets more skill testing when you have to do that every two seconds, and communicate to make sure others aren't kicking the same one
not that it's a very fun skill test but
robust lark
its almost identical to the dmg one
That's what I'm looking at now. Thinking of doing all the silly stuff like picking up bitter immunity and BSV and what not just because I don't care about parsing on damage
prisma crane
That's what I'm looking at now. Thinking of doing all the silly stuff like picki...
BSV isnt worth it, doesnt work proper, and BI isnt great either, particularly in a raid
mighty valley
BSV just sadly doesn't work how you'd hope
dusky canopy
Hey guys, so I'm running Mythic vault tonight with a new guild I only ran M Keur...
The best defense is offense, truly
robust lark
I know that's been said before, that if BSV pops for you, you're already dead
prisma crane
you just want to be a rage generating machine
mighty valley
I genuinely think you'll have the best chance just playing the normal build and ending the fight a touch faster
prisma crane
I know that's been said before, that if BSV pops for you, you're already dead
no, its that it procs off of pre-mitigated dmg, so it'll go off even when you're not in danger
sick sentinel
"anyones vault canon not work?" "blizzard will not get away with this"
i dunno why ppl are malding out today
robust lark
Thought about grabbing enduring alacrity too, idk
prisma crane
i would argue the only things that are "defensive" that are worth it are Heavy Repercussions and Enduring Defenses
EA is a waste
mighty valley
there just aren't points to spare down in that section
prisma crane
we're just not weak in raid either
dusky canopy
Are we able to filter logs by date when viewing leaderboard?
mighty valley
all of the "offensive" sounding talents down there are also contributing to rage
mighty valley
i was about to say
mighty valley
HR is the brain-off 100% shield block uptime choice
prisma crane
but if you want to "play safe" HR makes 100% block braindead
robust lark
I was getting like 90-95% SB uptime without it
prisma crane
uptime doesnt matter
if that 5-10% was when you werent actively tanking it doesnt matter
robust lark
ok
mighty valley
(well, it matters insofar as you want as much as you can for shield slam dmg without missing any blocked hits when you're main tanking)
robust lark
My blocked hits were much higher than the average top parses I looked at after raid last thursday
prisma crane
well for sure, but strictly defensively since that's his #1 concern
mighty valley
i put it in parentheses because i knew i was being pedantic and annoying
prisma crane
yea because most parse whores dont care, we block enough to not die and the rest is all going in dmg
robust lark
I just gotta live 😦 and pop SR more often
prisma crane
i put it in parentheses because i knew i was being pedantic and annoying
lol its the best way to be
fwiw i almost added that caveat myself
well i guess the better question is what's killing you
robust lark
the healers, obviously
prisma crane
because you can live most of the raid with god awful talents
robust lark
I posted in the logs last week and the top feedback I got was to use my defensive CDs better, namely that I died with LS up too much, and wasn't properly hitting SR enough. This was on KEurig, and I was def trying, if not almost fully successful, at SR'in every sundering strike, but could have been using it more in between
If you're interested. Raid is in 2.5 hours lol
For survivability too, was wondering if I should re-gem from haste/crit to haste/vers
or if the conceivable extra parry from crit was justifiable
prisma crane
firstly with gems, do you use lariat?
robust lark
yes
robust lark
prisma crane
those gems would give you crit procs from lariat
robust lark
TIL so do I need the full haste gems there instead of the haste/crit gems?
strong forum
No
strong forum
70+33 > 88
prisma crane
more stats > less of ideal stat
strong forum
Same
prisma crane
lol
mighty valley
in any case
prisma crane
well most i see use haste, but i guess it doesnt matter
mighty valley
your gems are not gonna be the diff
robust lark
sure
robust lark
regardless what do I want to gem now so I can get the haste buff from lariat, lol
strong forum
But nothing to waste braincells on
robust lark
I'm lookin at the AH now lol
strong forum
Big crit low haste
Big vers low haste
prisma crane
also remove the one bloodborne and put that point into Instigate
robust lark
Big crit low haste
Big vers low haste
word do I need to do that to every gem or just the lariat?
strong forum
All
robust lark
rgr
strong forum
It picks any gem on your gear
robust lark
also remove the one bloodborne and put that point into Instigate
heard
that's what I thought
prisma crane
not having either instigate or bloodsurge is a lot of rage lost
robust lark
ok cool
Imma re-gem with these I guess...
honestly yeah I get it that these things will matter much much less than how I play
and I know I'm not BAD per-se but I did want to make sure I was doing my best
robust lark
not having either instigate or bloodsurge is a lot of rage lost
I was looking at running spell block instead of the point in bloodborne...
anyway this is what I'm looking at now
prisma crane
get rid of one of those extra rage cap talents and put it in the crit one on the bottom
i cant remember these names
robust lark
ok
prisma crane
also yea that
strong forum
Also instead of honed reflexes get +1% crit chance on class tree
Or move 1 point of overwhelming rage there
prisma crane
i cant be the only one who feels like OR is almost entirely worthless right?
robust lark
ok so I could swap HR with ItF and keep bolster
prisma crane
yes, or keep HR and drop bolster for something else
strong forum
i cant be the only one who feels like OR is almost entirely worthless right?
It's decent quality of life
Plays alot smoother when you get that extra wiggle room
That being said, I haven't run it since beta cuz I just forget
robust lark
tree isn't lettin me drop overwhelming rage or HR for the 2nd crit point in cruel strikes
robust lark
XD word I see the "or" up there now.
strong forum
You're limited to 11 points in 3rd gate
royal rune
can i catalyze this?
royal rune
will it keep leech?
warm plinth
yes
royal rune
what stats is the cloak?
cursive jacinth
Vault question: I am currently ilvl 401. I have two options in the vault 1. Dubious Handax (ilvl 411...I Currently have 392 crafted molton longsword) and 2. Twenty-two league striders at ilvl 408 (currently I have 382 ilvl boots)....I am thinking grabbing the axe and using one of my spark to craft a boots...thoughts?
warm plinth
what stats is the cloak?
Haste>vers
warm plinth
Vault question: I am currently ilvl 401. I have two options in the vault 1. Dubi...
If you're not getting a concentrated infusion any time reasonably soon, get the weapon
cursive jacinth
boots is bigger ilevel upgrade
Thank you.
cursive jacinth
If you're not getting a concentrated infusion any time reasonably soon, get the ...
I might get enough primal by end of the week. to upgrade sword.
warm plinth
what the
I swear to god I jus tlooked at it on wowhead and it was haste/vers
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY
warm plinth
well I'm glad you checked too instead of just trusting what I said, though it would've shown it in the window too I suppose
hard dust
just double checking, haste is king for prot warriors right?
daring marlin
correct
craggy pilot
when next season releases, will our tier set be disabled when in the new raid?
similar to how SL Gems only worked in the maw 🤔
warm plinth
we don't know. When tier sets have existed in the past, they've never disabled them and you ended up with people mix and matching them. But we haven't had two tier sets back to back since then so who knows
craggy pilot
ah yea ok, just watching Maximum reading out 2set nerfs 🤔
daring marlin
similar to how SL Gems only worked in the maw 🤔
Probably not considering they nerfed fdk tier for 10.1.
craggy pilot
thought tier set was disabled after season, but idk
warm plinth
I think it's less likely we mix and match anyway though because I believe we only have 5 tier slots now and in the past we had 6
so you could do 4+2 and shit before
warm plinth
😂
craggy pilot
that would be giga haha
warm plinth
I'm actually hopeful that they're disabled for the next tier
mix and matching was degen af
warm plinth
yeah that's fine too
daring marlin
Didn't like wearing old tier in legion for infinite rage??????
craggy pilot
do we know how crafted items is gonna work for 10.1?
warm plinth
No, not really lol. Though I mained windwalker then
warm plinth
do we know how crafted items is gonna work for 10.1?
Yeah for the most part
daring marlin
craggy pilot
Yeah for the most part
is it the same items? so more lariat spam?
warm plinth
I was a monk main from MoP until BFA
craggy pilot
or do we get new ones, and have to relearn Crafting?
warm plinth
There are a few new crafted items but for the most part you'llj ust use the same ones
and use the new enchanting item to upgrade them
so you know the crests to upgrade shit that's replacing valor right
craggy pilot
There are a few new crafted items but for the most part you'llj ust use the same...
enchanting item? that one does require the new spark?
so there is gonna be a new set of infusions i reckon or what?
warm plinth
They'll require the new spark too, yes. But basically the crests you use to upgrade can be enchanted by an enchanter, and you use that as an optional reagent in place of an infusion
And that's how you get the higher ilevel crafted shit
craggy pilot
ah so if you want a new max ilvl Lariat, you need to talk to an enchanter, and then a jewelcrafter?
warm plinth
You'll need to get your crest enchanted first, yeah. And then get it recrafted using the enchanted crest + new spark
craggy pilot
so likely a bunch of new Crafting things, to increase our skills as well
since it will probably be higher difficulty
🤔
hmm
warm plinth
Nah they already said that recipe difficulty and shit isn't changing
craggy pilot
ah ok
warm plinth
Otherwise new crafters would be even farther behind than they already are
craggy pilot
yea true
kinda feels weird i am insta at the top of the game if i just played S1
like i dont have to refarm anything in BS
warm plinth
Well you'll have to farm the fragments to get the crests, and the only source I've seen so far for the new spark is a one-time quest that gives you 1 spark
warm plinth
I assume you'll be able to buy them from the vault vendor again as well but that's only one every couple weeks assuming a filled out vault
craggy pilot
like im maxed in everything BS
just trying to check if i need to do anything in the new season
if not, its kinda dumb tbh :/
warm plinth
yeah idk, there's a handful of new recipes but nothing that I've heard that is anything special yet
like there's a new embellished shield
but idk if the effect is gonna be good or not
(probably not)
craggy pilot
yea well im already maxed in shield 😄
like im sitting on 50 unused Knowledge points
warm plinth
I gave up on professions because crafting is annoying and gathering ended up being shit after I spent a couple months with mining/herb
Idk how there are even mats on the AH to be honest. Farming is not worth the time
craggy pilot
gathering is too much work for me
i make quite good money on crafting
but crafting is all about spamming /2, which is kinda horrible
warm plinth
2 hours of non-stop farming with both mining and herb would get me like, 15-20k
It's super bad
craggy pilot
2 hours of non-stop farming with both mining and herb would get me like, 15-20k
yea idk, its probably bots 90% of it 😄
casual people love to do gathering and questing though
warm plinth
I would think bots would have a really hard time of farming in DF though
since dragonriding
craggy pilot
yea true
idk i think if you have a lot of skillpoints and knowledge points in gathering, it can probably pay off
like i can do the Mineral Overload every 30minute or so
maybe even more
warm plinth
I had all of the important shit maxed
Still do I suppose, technically
Since you don't lose knowledge
craggy pilot
😄
was considering dropping my Mining and getting something else
but idk if i could spend the time every week doing weekly quests for 2 professions :<
warm plinth
tbh the gathering ones are stupid easy 99% of the time
The more time-consuming part is farming the 6 knowledge items
craggy pilot
yea i usually just buy the stuff on AH 😄
warm plinth
Yeah depends what it is for me usually
Like the place I farm, if it's rousing fire I normally just buy it
warm plinth
Because I mostly get order and air where I farm
craggy pilot
i only farm the weekly knowledge for BS
sick sentinel
Group Loot roll results frame (/loot) has been redesigned with a new look. Group Loot now has a Transmogrification option that replaces Greed if the player has not collected the appearance. Transmog rolls take priority over Greed rolls.
Players can Transmog roll on items that are not their primary armor type (i.e. Warriors can Transmog roll on cloth items). Transmog rolls and Greed rolls are treated equally (a Greed roll can beat a Transmog roll).
warm plinth
The bottom part is a list of known issues
sick sentinel
they are calling out a certain bald individual with that statement no doubt
"i need it for my flask set"
prisma crane
calling out how?
if anything it's better for him
and it's a good move, i've hit need on a few items for mog only
always trade if someone else actually ended up needing it
sick sentinel
horn is mid
rigid rune
id use all totem but i only do m+ not raid
sick sentinel
its very good for m+
old flame
I have an all totem
old flame
yes
sick sentinel
whats the other trinkets u have then
rigid rune
socket then is what id choose 😛
sick sentinel
the cloak has a ton of haste
and if you are really hard up for trinkets like no other options the horn really isn't bad either
i used horn for about a month
the way in which horn is good is because it is a very large amount of primary stat all at once with no downside or cost or waiting beside the cd
it's incredibly easy to use and not have to give any thought
if you have heroic raid trinkets or better though, use those. you can find a list of reccomended ones in pins here or icy viens type sites
old flame
yeah i've got all the heroic trinkets I need, deco-flame icon, totem
even got the raz lightning ont
I think I'll grab the cloak, thanks guys
urban portal
I think I'll grab the cloak, thanks guys
Ngl socket prob more dps
sick sentinel
Ngl socket prob more dps
counter with
he has some low gear
u just activated my trap card
sick sentinel
yeah other option was horn or a socket
urban portal
Yes socket is prob better than 7 Ilvl in cape
sick sentinel
not entirely convinced but sim might say a few more dps i dunno
not sure how close it would be, but i imagine not a large difference
urban portal
You aren’t convinced by most things yogi
daring marlin
yogi is a free man
sick sentinel
and i guess it depends on slot, but for like, bracer cloak maybe belt have lower stat values so socket = more ilvl value compared to say chest
what is the ilvl for socket for both then say
scenic mural
Just sim, dont need feelycraft
violet flume
personally i like to get every slot to 421 then get gems later, even if it's a lower upgrade, you'll be closer to bis faster, but i guess 10.1 is around the corner so socket is prob smarter
fast knot
warm plinth
aww they fixed the fun bug
warm plinth
past summit
OK, please help settle an argument ... if you are in a BG and you are tanking a boss, is it considered rude for another tank to taunt off you and take over tanking without asking?
warm plinth
Well, I never do BGs, but I would say as long as the boss dies, idgaf who it's beating on when it happens
languid light
Somewhat, but also it doesn’t really matter
past summit
nothing in wow matters in the grand scheme, but would it bother you?
sick sentinel
I don't understand purpose or logic of explosive goes off and they absorb
Isn't explosive supposed to be it explkodes
warm plinth
Yes, but just like you can have a glitter bomb be harmless yet annoying, not everything that explodes has to do damage
daring marlin
I don't understand purpose or logic of explosive goes off and they absorb
gotta stop oppressing healers bro
fuck them dps
scenic mural
OK, please help settle an argument ... if you are in a BG and you are tanking a ...
Is this sarcasm
past summit
Is this sarcasm
hmm?
indigo sable
is prot tier set in season 2 still the same as when they were announced? or have they been changed at all?
warm plinth
the last stand reduction was increased to 1 second per shield slam instead of .5 seconds at one point, but that's the only change
shrewd grove
Wish they would reverse the shield slam cleave. Make it happen for the first x seconds after you press LS instead of x seconds after LS ends
As is, you're never gonna line it up with CDs
warm plinth
Well, you would basically never line it up with CDs anyway. But it would still be a hell of a lot more intuitive if it was with the press of the button instead of awkwardly 15 seconds later
slim dove
in HoV this week 24+ do u have to kill
funnel off dragon and have tank gtfo for breath
woven laurel
how to do i live piercing shard in azure vault more specifically the quadruple piercing shard pull in frog skip route
violet flume
yeah piercing shards cant get off haha
or i guess you could use shieldwall but its gonna hurt on the 4x pull i suppose, i never did skip route and 2x hurts bad
woven laurel
yeah i think 1x is the only rlly manageable one
ionic fern
You can LoS the first 3 shard packs.
The only one you can't LoS is the one on the platform.
woven laurel
2x was certainly more livable than 4x 4x p much one shot me
ionic fern
They start casting Shard->LoS, they cancel casting shard, come back out.
Repeat.
They won't recast immediately.
woven laurel
hmm interesting i didnt know this
woven laurel
ill have to keep this in mind next time i run that key thank you
ionic fern
I usually do this once i've exhausted all my CC.
SC,Storm Bolt, Shockwave,Fear.
Then start LoS dancing.
woven laurel
thank you!
ionic fern
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
ionic fern
Good morning Ghash, hope you're doing well.
warm plinth
I'm doing pretty good. How about you sir
woven laurel
is the watcher dark moon deck worth running if i have no other good options
ionic fern
I'm doing pretty good. How about you sir
Doing good as well. 🙂
ionic fern
is the watcher dark moon deck worth running if i have no other good options
If you have nothing else that's your go-to due to circumstances.
woven laurel
thank you!
warm plinth
Doing good as well. 🙂
I got a grieftorch on my hunter today from the TW weekly 
ionic fern
I got a grieftorch on my hunter today from the TW weekly <a:hmmNod:9403769325608...
Chad.
It's timewalker weekly?
TIME TO
LEVEL.
warm plinth
It's timewalking for the next 5 weeks still
ionic fern
WHAT
warm plinth
They're doing like a timewalking event right now
6 weeks of timewalking, starting last week
ionic fern
Since when?
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
Okay.
Well, i will probably only level like 1-2 characters
So it's fine.
ionic fern
warm plinth
I should work on the OFES challenge while this is happening, though I generally dont like dungeon leveling
There's gonna be a world event coming up for the D4 release too where we'll get the 50% xp buff for a bit
I'm assuming it's gonna be from like 10.1 launch to the D4 launch if I had to guess
That should let me level a bunch of toons in a few hours each or so
ionic fern
OFES?
warm plinth
warm plinth
ionic fern
warm plinth
Well tbf, my 70 is prot right now, has been all season
Because fury isn't fun this expansion
I just hit 2k with him finally the other day 
ionic fern
I've got..
ProtW
ProtP
VDH
BDK
RSshaman
Will probably add..
FrostMage
AssaRogue to the mix.
warm plinth
As you can see I tried to level one of my evokers
And I discovered that playing devastation is like watching mold grow
ocean prairie
Is running incarnate icon as tank a good dps upgrade for dps? Alongside whetstone
warm plinth
It's better for other people than it is for us, but it's worth running if other folks have it as well.
@ionic fern did you see the suggested explosive change yet
restive crown
Then start LoS dancing.
where do i los for the one after first boss?
ionic fern
where do i los for the one after first boss?
Either the doorway if you want to kite that far back, or there are these small "Pillars" in the walls to the right, you can position the mobs in a way that they are on one side of the pillar and you on the other one.
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> did you see the suggested explosive change yet
I saw someone talking about it - more HP but less of them?
restive crown
Either the doorway if you want to kite that far back, or there are these small "...
ok thank you will try
warm plinth
So that's the original iteration. But then the health got a 30% nerf (they had like 680k HP at +20 and were spawning 2 at a time). And then today they said they did a health reduction (not sure if it's in addition to the 30% or not though), and said they're thinking about making it so instead of exploding for damage, they apply an absorb on all the mobs around them when they explode based on a % of the orb's remaining health.
Because people were basically going to just ignore them after the first changes since they had so much health
Which would've made it even more of a healer affix than it already is lol
restive crown
will it make a big difference in survivability if i switch all my haste/mastery crafted stats and gems to haste/vers? (since i am playing some fury also)
restive crown
Might help your damage a bit though (as prot anyway)
ya sims higher for prot with vers, was js wondering how much it helps with survivability if i am to change them
crude notch
I'm at 17 70s and 8 of them are druids. Also, I'm glad to see Bansheelover is still alive on the list.
sick sentinel
Is there any wa / addon that tells you when to interuppt etc? :3 like highlights ~?
warm plinth
I'm at 17 70s and 8 of them are druids. Also, I'm glad to see Bansheelover is st...
Bansheelover is immortal
low salmon
im using the eranog hc trinket and the hc torch. is a 421 enduring scale worth? i know it's a proc and procs are shit, but it's either that or a new socket 
cerulean tusk
Combine scales with shield ring and annulet stones. Go full cheese shield mode. Then have fun with seeing how much you now can tank
tall cedar
guys is my haste too much? im using haste enchant and haste/vers gems
and with talent it will be 37
cerulean tusk
Swap a ring with annulet, and you are guchi
remote venture
About the tier 4 bouns on season 2 tier set, is SS aoe for 10 secs?
strong forum
guys is my haste too much? im using haste enchant and haste/vers gems
Not even remotely close to too much
strong forum
About the tier 4 bouns on season 2 tier set, is SS aoe for 10 secs?
4pc is closer to thunderclap
echo egret
Hey, what's your take on this choice ? (last choice is 421 boots I already have)
"Take a socket" is an acceptable answer
modern brook
I'm confused
Why is 13 ilvls on a trinket you're already using not just the snap pick
6 I can't count point stands
remote venture
4pc is closer to thunderclap
You mean SS will be thunderclap during the 10 secs?
echo egret
Because taking the Ruby Whelp Shell is a +13 item level upgrade ?
ionic fern
You mean SS will be thunderclap during the 10 secs?
It won't "cleave shield slam".
It's a separate damage event.
remote venture
Ah, I see
warm plinth
I can; I was asking if you approved lmao
ionic fern
No.
modern brook
Because taking the Ruby Whelp Shell is a +13 item level upgrade ?
I'd sim it but I'm not sure whelp beats out all totem
jade pulsar
Because taking the Ruby Whelp Shell is a +13 item level upgrade ?
Its rly bad though so u shouldnt choose it
warm plinth
I would take the hoof
ionic fern
I like answering redundant questions.
modern brook
PRetty sure you can.
Server names when?
ionic fern
Server names?
modern brook
Server names?
Like so I don't have to rename my entire discord account o be blordfango here
ionic fern
You
Can
Rename
Yourself
Here.
remote venture
It's hard to understand from the blue post how the 4pc works
modern brook
No way
warm plinth
Way
modern brook
Holy shit
strong forum
You mean SS will be thunderclap during the 10 secs?
No, it just causes a dmg cone for 45% of atk Power when you press shield slam, which is comparable to thunderclap
warm plinth
Next step, reactions. Then, global emojis. Then, the world.
modern brook
This is the best thing to have ever happened to me
modern brook
Smh
warm plinth
tbh I'm actually very thankful we don't have global emojis in here. I've seen enough of those crotch-grabbing emojis to last me a lifetime.
modern brook
Agrid
remote venture
No, it just causes a dmg cone for 45% of atk Power when you press shield slam, ...
So you are saying a dmg cone are not the same thing as "AoE" attack? I didn't know it was two different terms in WoW
warm plinth
No, the problem is that "AoE SS" implies that it's Shield Slam, but on every target.
Which it's not
You press Shield Slam, and it procs a damage cone that is not Shield Slam
strong forum
Aoe can be understood as 360° circle
warm plinth
Think of it like Strike Twice. Everyone thinks the proc on that weapon is an extra hit. it's not. It's just a damage proc.
strong forum
The cone is... Well a cone
warm plinth
So we don't say it's an extra hit, because it's not.
warm plinth
👀
modern brook
Getting a cone at 359 degrees is straight irresponsible tbh. You go for a bowl if it's thay hot out.
ionic fern
strong forum
Glad I could help
remote venture
I didn't know Thunderclap was a cone. My mind is still from WC3 that is 360 AoE 😬😅
modern brook
strong forum
No
You misunderstood
The 4pc proc is a cone
Thunderclap is aoe, but the damage of it is comparable to the 4pc
TC is 42%
4pc is 45%
warm plinth
That's why we have the Theorycrafter role.
So we can ask dumb questions from the...
👀
I will prepare some dumb questions for next time
echo egret
I'd sim it but I'm not sure whelp beats out all totem
There you go - nothing incredible anyway.
remote venture
Oh, it basiclly thunderclap with it's dmg but it's just an cone forward
warm plinth
remote venture
I hope I get it now 😅
warm plinth
You'd basically have to try not to get it, to not get it
You can get a guaranteed piece by doing heroic raid or m+ to 2200 rating
And then the catalyst is free once it comes out
No currency or quest required. Just get a charge a week
warm plinth
I usually answer the dumb questions rather than ask them
warm plinth
Does this mean I'm a theorycrafter?
ionic fern
I'm just gonna feelycraft all answers from now on.
warm plinth
Seems like a solid plan with no possible negative repercussions.
ionic fern
pallid quiver
today, i have learned that Scholo is actually in the mop timewalking
warm plinth
Luerce is here, run!
pallid quiver
Throughout all these years, I
warm plinth
wat
pallid quiver
damn i stink that much
dry spear
warm plinth
I've always wanted an opulent girdle
pallid quiver
this is what i get for trying to do like a 2 hour bike ride to work today after the city let out so many construction projects that i couldn't make it to work my normal way today
ionic fern
Seems like a solid plan with no possible negative repercussions.
Going to add a disclaimer to my Discord "Note" like "Everything i say is purely from my own personal feelycrafting. Do not take it seriously, do not blame me."
pallid quiver
i get bullied before even finishing typing smh
ionic fern
ionic fern
this is what i get for trying to do like a 2 hour bike ride to work today after ...
Man, how big is the city that you drive 2h on a bike?
My work drive shortens by like 10m if i go by bike in summers since i can just weave through traffic.
pallid quiver
Well you see
ionic fern
pallid quiver
It's normally a 15 minute bike ride
pallid quiver
but also i live in america so
ionic fern
Not motorcycle.