look, its fine if u want to doubt me, im jus aying what i heard lol
#protection
sick sentinel
strong forum
they also want everybody to use it now
old sinew
I think that’s just a bug related to them making s2 crafts 447 / 421 eq
strong forum
but only tanks healer and rogues wear them
sick sentinel
to use what
strong forum
so if they want everybody to use em
ring
they need to buff the rings a substantial amount
old sinew
Add secondary stat to ring and nerf gems slightly
strong forum
which will be ridiculous for tanks and healers
sick sentinel
my point still fuckin stands
hardy snow
insteads of recent 25% buff, they should just add secondaries to annulet, and maybe tune little bit down powers of gems
tropic tangle
just add secondary stats
hardy snow
then everyone would use it
old sinew
insteads of recent 25% buff, they should just add secondaries to annulet, and ma...
Exactly
tropic tangle
if you want it to be BiS, let it be BiS easily
sick sentinel
give the ring ilvl x1.5 worth of stat in 1 secondary
tropic gorge
The ring is pretty strong. Most of my guild has it, and whole rng hasn't allowed everyone to min/max combos, our raid dps last night was nuts. Highest we have had
tropic tangle
then disable the stones in 10.1
sick sentinel
so its like, 600 haste or 600 mastery or something
tropic tangle
or some shit
old sinew
so its like, 600 haste or 600 mastery or something
Versa. Both for flavor/ lore and also so people aren’t saccing EHP from avoidance rings for more dps
sick sentinel
im saying X1.5 (stat value worth) cuz if its 2 stats at 100% thats compltely overpowered as balls, if its 50% people would complain its nerfed even though thats probably more fair
if its 2 stats 100% of normal ilvl + 3sockets, we will never unequipp the ring
nobody ever
old sinew
600 secondary is around 50% of a normal ring (minus the fact you can’t socket 100 secondary gem).
You get 1300 stat from 421 socketed ring
sick sentinel
back in my day
how we handled this problem, for rogues at least, was everything was broken down into "Agility Equivalance Points" AEP
thats first time i ever learned about or did simming "spreadsheets" as it was called back then
strong forum
ah childhood
sick sentinel
i got kicked out of molten core after going as prot paladin taking bracers and judging some boss with judgement or light so everyone would get healed
thats my 2004 story
tropic gorge
In the mc days we had a druid that wanted to bear tank. Before it was really even a thing. Poor dude was mocked hard and gquit
sick sentinel
my account got hacked and i got in fight with friend, and then i made a rogue instead
tropic gorge
Started his own guild, and learned the hard way thst druids weren't actually tanks yet
old sinew
i got kicked out of molten core after going as prot paladin taking bracers and j...
Using up a debuff slot 😡😡😡
icy bane
My younger sister would join my guilds vent when she was like 12 years old and those dudes were way to comfortable talking to her, looking back now yeah probably shouldn’t have let her on vent
sick sentinel
Using up a debuff slot 😡😡😡
how the fuck didn't i know in 2004...... what an idiot.........
then finally my brother got a group to let me do once mc with them
funny thing im on classic right now
leveling a mage on whiteman since retail is down
servers actually pretty populated
people everywhere
old sinew
I’ve never understood the “younger = total idiot” meme. How did you guys beat Ruby weapon if you didn’t understand character optimization at all?
strong forum
i fully understand it
strong forum
youre a fucking idiot when youre a kid
strong forum
i still am
tropic gorge
I’ve never understood the “younger = total idiot” meme. How did you guys beat Ru...
Ff7 ruby weapon was hard
sick sentinel
no, you still don't realize how big of idiot we all are nomer and i don't mean that in hurtful way
just wait till you are older and it make sense some day
water temple is harder than mc
anmwyays
prime sphinx
Just a quick couple runs SBG20 with each setup first run with humming then 2nd with storm
old sinew
Ff7 came out in like 1998 or something. I remember sitting around min-maxing material and splitting materia after farming jp over and over. Then again I member thst my older brother didn’t understand that ultimate weapons gimped your jp growth
Some ppl just didn’t pay attention to game stuff
tropic gorge
Had to use ragnarok on cloud for the double modifier for materia
distant crystal
i remember my friends little bro being glued to the TV playing FF7 every time I came over
sick sentinel
i always use str/vers ones dpeending
tropic gorge
I grinded the Stat boost items in the submarine, and maxed out mime and knights of the round then shit wrecked ruby weapon lol
sick sentinel
ui neverr played it. i played the zelda games though. and the water temple is one of my bis gaming experiences
prime sphinx
i only use it in lower target dungs but eye might still be more 🤷♂️
old sinew
I grinded the Stat boost items in the submarine, and maxed out mime and knights ...
Eww. Breeding gold chocobo.
sick sentinel
i also got in a fight with my brother once and deleted his save file that was right before ganondorf
tropic tangle
leveling a mage on whiteman since retail is down
retail is up, fyi
sick sentinel
and he beat me up lmfao
strong forum
Just a quick couple runs SBG20 with each setup first run with humming then 2nd w...
yeah storm doesnt seem worth it at all then
cuz its not prio dmg
just random pad
prime sphinx
yeah just gonna stick with hummer
tropic gorge
Eww. Breeding gold chocobo.
I ended up going to Walmart and writing down the breeding guide from a prima strategy guide lmao. Went home and had a gold one
strong forum
but you got alot unluckier with procs in first run
sick sentinel
i remember learning to min max game play as early as wolfenstien 3d, i didn't know the guys you were shooting were nazis, but what i did learn from that is, like, how to be efficent with guns not waste every bullet, or how to lure enemies and not to over cap on weapons picking up ammo in later games like doom and quake and duke nukem
prime sphinx
I think cos 30% crit storm procced the blood more
sick sentinel
some of the guns would have a cap of 100 bullets and then you pick up 20 at a time
strong forum
storm would need to do significantly more dmg than humming to outperform efficiency wise
sick sentinel
and then so you misuse picking up all the ammo, run out and you die cuz you screwed your self, caught on to that fast as kid
strong forum
but 70k in smbg is pretty good
weak goblet
Hi all, I'm trying to find a weak aura that I see streamers use around upcoming things to look out for in M+. Things like frontals or Dark Claw in TJS, etc. It's usually an icon of the ability with the countdown on it. Any suggestions on where I can find this?
strong forum
altho, wft is a free 2k+ dps gain
strong forum
Hi all, I'm trying to find a weak aura that I see streamers use around upcoming ...
this?
uneven mason
and then so you misuse picking up all the ammo, run out and you die cuz you scre...
Make good use of that chainsaw my friend
sick sentinel
only good at melee range, not gud vs barons of hell in doom 1/2
velvet current
and he beat me up lmfao
violence doesn't solve issues, but it does make you feel better after your brother deletes your game save.
uneven mason
only good at melee range, not gud vs barons of hell in doom 1/2
You can do it, but for sure plasma rifle is bis there
sick sentinel
why would i want chainsaw tho when i could just have https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sHeuZ-m1tek
uneven mason
Hell knights would get stunned by the chainsaw enough that they'd only melee once or twice
heavy temple
I did a sim for all combos ( there was an advanced sim script on reddit), and I got a 3% better ST result than in the pins
sick sentinel
chaingun is actually the best weapon in game for stun lock
old sinew
6800 dps with storm? I haven’t seen it perform that low. Did you chain mobs into worms to have storm gem cleave?
tropic gorge
why would i want chainsaw tho when i could just have https://www.youtube.com/sho...
This is the king of fps games.
heavy temple
Maybe I overlooked something, but I felt like sharing it here.
tropic gorge
When someone gets the quad, everyone is hunting him
sick sentinel
works on almost all enemies to create a no dmg stun lock single target combat
uneven mason
This is the king of fps games.
I mean, it's literally just a high res version of quake 2 modded gameplay, and quake 2 had waaaay more variety
sick sentinel
my problem with plasma gun is why use plasma if u could just use bfg instead
uneven mason
my problem with plasma gun is why use plasma if u could just use bfg instead
Because bfg in one target was inefficient
tropic gorge
I mean, it's literally just a high res version of quake 2 modded gameplay, and q...
Negative sir. Q3 was a total departure from the death match of q2
sick sentinel
plasma gun is too precious ammo and its too much aggro for most scenarios
old sinew
Then again 200 dps variance from my lowest run is maybe not that strange. I only did 4 runs
tropic gorge
Maybe rocket arena was similar to q3
sick sentinel
just switch to something ammo saving imo
uneven mason
Negative sir. Q3 was a total departure from the death match of q2
Mods ..
tropic gorge
The q3 rocket area mod was glorious fun
But, quake champions is all we have left of the glory days of quake.
Maybe a q1 remake/update would revive it
Telefrag, tell a friend
old sinew
storm would need to do significantly more dmg than humming to outperform effici...
Yeah. Well I will chalk up my gameplay with thunder to doing science for the greater good 😆
strong forum
I did a sim for all combos ( there was an advanced sim script on reddit), and I ...
you need to sim nightly build
not weekly
uneven mason
Q2 gave us team fortress, the basis for all team shooters
heavy temple
you need to sim nightly build
Ah, okay, thanks for the clarification
tropic gorge
Half life is my first experience with tf
sick sentinel
q3 plasma gun best normal weapon in tha game
tropic gorge
I never played the q2 mod
uneven mason
Half life is my first experience with tf
That's why it was called team fortress classic
old sinew
TFC 🤤
tropic gorge
Rocket arena is my favorite thing ever to come out of quake tho
Quake champions has a rocket area mode
sick sentinel
ive been trying to play through fear 2 recently, but the shot gun sucks dick
uneven mason
Knife
heavy temple
never sim weekly build, it shouldnt even be an option
nightly didnt change much: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6mEcFKj5u5tLhAgDLa7zcX
thats my current setup
weak goblet
https://wago.io/CooldownsOnNameplate
It's more on the screen, not on plates. I've got this opne arleady 🙂
old sinew
Just a quick couple runs SBG20 with each setup first run with humming then 2nd w...
Are you running frostfire and eranog? If my only current source of magic damage is blazebinder and glacial fury will this perform well for me?
tropic gorge
I don't think it will with blaze binder because of its long cd
strong forum
nightly didnt change much: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6mEcFKj5u5tLhA...
you dont have the combo at all in there
sick sentinel
does anyone have suggestions for getting these rings this week if vault is done?
tropic gorge
The belt would be better
sick sentinel
i dont wanan spend all my fragments to upgrade to have bad rng and not get them
old sinew
I don’t raid so I don’t have eranog and because I don’t have eranog I never bothered recrafting embellishments
So no belt
strong forum
like, your sim looks exactly like a sim without the good combo
tropic gorge
You just need the egineer gun and a prison for the soul
heavy temple
you dont have the combo at all in there
the combo is in my base profile at least, since I am wearing it currently
strong forum
yeah youre fucking something up 100%
old sinew
It’s less “I can’t get the belt” and more that it was never really worth pursuing. Frostfire never activated anything for me previously
wary spire
frozen or sophic?
prime sphinx
Are you running frostfire and eranog? If my only current source of magic damage ...
ye frostfire+eranog
strong forum
frozen for dmg, sophic for general use/tanky
tropic gorge
Ooo I didn't know you were a dwarf
old sinew
Oh ya I guess frozen is magic damage too
heavy temple
sim the combo specifically
okay thank you
tropic gorge
Nom do you ever use stone form for its Dr component?
strong forum
no
tropic gorge
Any reason why not? I'm genuinely curious
shrewd grove
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dpd62gMWh7R3Qwaq/
Took some of the advice yall gave. Still feel like I waste a bit of rage using shield charge since I use it right after demo shout. I might just practice demo>IP>Shield charge>IP until it gets ingrained. Everything else look better though?
tropic gorge
Lol
old sinew
I guess I wonder if I craft frostfire belt will the proc rate of the gem be high enough to compete with storming gem with no eranog?
strong forum
dont think about that button outside of debuff cleanse
tropic gorge
I ask because I do on things I know push my shit in with physical dmg
I also like using it when hero/lust goes out if I don't actually need it. Lust + avatar + stone form = boss size dwarf
strong forum
if you know you wont need to cleanse a debuff in the next 2 minutes
then stoneform is free mitigation, sure
tropic gorge
Correct
old sinew
Storming gem procs off crit which is way easier for p war to proc than magic dam. May be a case of humming is theoretically better but I don’t have the gear to play it
strong forum
very likely
i have every magic proc imaginable for it
frozen, belt, ring, trinket
strong forum
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dpd62gMWh7R3Qwaq/
Took some of the advice ...
opener looks good, blocked hits are a bit iffy, could be higher, cpm could also be a bit higher
high basalt
@sick sentinel hi mate just done a key and it didn’t record even with loggerhead? Do I need to enable chat logging?
toxic pewter
Where’s all the outrage about prot pal being overpowered. Haven’t heard a single twitcher or YouTuber say anything
uneven mason
Where’s all the outrage about prot pal being overpowered. Haven’t heard a single...
Wat
shrewd grove
opener looks good, blocked hits are a bit iffy, could be higher, cpm could also ...
How do I find blocked hits?
strong forum
you still wasted like 8% of rage which is a bit spicy, should be <1%
strong forum
Wat
because everybody shat on pwar for months and months for being overpowered and hits its unfair
uneven mason
I mean, it's pretty well accepted that warrior is the only class that makes people upset when it does well
toxic pewter
Yeah we literally were shit on since beta
strong forum
and i can answer it easily
heavy temple
sim the combo specifically
It somehow bugged out, when I already had one onyx ring equipped. Eq. two normal rings fixed the issue.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/183AsCvtNmXATxwtHiR7zg
Thank you
strong forum
people like to hate on pwar
tropic gorge
I mean, it's pretty well accepted that warrior is the only class that makes peop...
This is the sad truth
I don't understand the warrior hate tbh
uneven mason
because everybody shat on pwar for months and months for being overpowered and h...
Oh like this is par for the course, literally BFA season 2 when we stopped getting killed by rocks and could still do 50% of the groups damage
toxic pewter
Yeah I have that sense too and I try to be as objective as possible because I hate victim mentality
uneven mason
But let's ignore bdk literally soloing+20s
strong forum
the thing is
right
they had MASSIVE NOVELTY
from never playing pwar
to then suddenly playing a tank that doesnt lose hp
(which was always the case btw)
thats why it seemed so much better than it is
slim dove
it also stems from prot war being so forgiving.
strong forum
cuz people didnt know that pwars HP isnt supposed to drop
slim dove
a bad blood dk literally flops
strong forum
when every other tank loses hp exceedingly frequently
slim dove
a bad prot war is still a god in rat keys
strong forum
because of design
uneven mason
(which was always the case btw)
Even bfa. S1 with IP on the GCD, played well we could mitigate north of 80%
tropic gorge
a bad blood dk literally flops
Same with bad monks
slim dove
a bad EVERY other tank
toxic pewter
The bdk bias is wild to me and when you bring it up everyone loses their mind
slim dove
i notice it on rdruid all the time
pwars are gods even with 40% sb uptime
(in shit rat 16s)
strong forum
The bdk bias is wild to me and when you bring it up everyone loses their mind
people like that bdk is entirely self reliant
and grips
uneven mason
We're god's right up until something ignores armor
strong forum
yup
toxic pewter
Yah but I have to say bdk have this weird self delusion almost and have trouble being objective
tropic gorge
Bdk is a whole group in one player lol
strong forum
then we fall off hard
urban portal
wouldnt bear get messed up more though
uneven mason
Which is one thing this xpac
urban portal
if something pierces armor
uneven mason
Df has a lot more physical damage
strong forum
kinda yes and kinda no
uneven mason
Than sl
tropic gorge
Df being so much physical dmg is great
shrewd grove
opener looks good, blocked hits are a bit iffy, could be higher, cpm could also ...
How do I find blocked hits on the log?
heavy temple
(in shit rat 16s)
Unless you just unbind DS as a blood dk in 16s, I do not know how you manage to die
strong forum
bear has passive DR and more ways to heal back up
strong forum
How do I find blocked hits on the log?
dmg taken -> melee -> hover over hits column
uneven mason
wouldnt bear get messed up more though
They have higher base non physical mit than warrior, and more HP and bonus healing
urban portal
do NOT hover over damage
yeah warriors are probably the worst tank at dealing with bleeds
strong forum
yes
slim dove
Unless you just unbind DS as a blood dk in 16s, I do not know how you manage to ...
my "casual mythic" guilds bdk just found out yesterday IBF had a damage reduction effect on it
slim dove
hes 2880 and hes 4/8
strong forum
pwar is better than bear
uneven mason
Worst but we have the most balanced kit for all situations
strong forum
because of melees
heavy temple
my "casual mythic" guilds bdk just found out yesterday IBF had a damage reductio...
Isn'T that confirmation that bdk is easy to play?
urban portal
how do pwars mitigate p3 raid hit
slim dove
Isn'T that confirmation that bdk is easy to play?
lmao true
strong forum
SW/Spellblock
tropic gorge
I'd rather have high block uptime than rely on rng dodge personally
uneven mason
And IP while druid has to pop a major CD each cast
sick sentinel
you had this option checked and hit "yes i want to log XYZ dungeon" when you went in?
tropic gorge
For druid vs war
sick sentinel
i think that you might have to restart the game after hitting advance combat log but unsure
uneven mason
Druids tbh have a good kit, it's frequency of availability that's pinching them
uncut helm
You can also reflect for the spell reduction, which is excessive but warrior basically removes the entire beam easily
uneven mason
Their CDs are stupidly long
And recovery from mistakes is almost impossible
Because FR is hot garbage compared to other tanks recovery
sick sentinel
@high basalt
see at the top there, first time you enter a new dungeon the addon doesn't recognize, it will ask you this
after you hit enable, it will remember your selection for that dungeon until the addon is re-installed or broken
uneven mason
Also in general it's very obvious that they have no one who actually understands the niche a guardian should fill in that team
high basalt
@sick sentinel yes mate done all that and after when I click view report in log uploader it says unknown zone where usually there’s a log?
uneven mason
Their mastery is reliant on someone else to take advantage of because their self healing is non existent
pastel willow
its humming, desorius and what more?
sick sentinel
im not sure what issue you are having but it has been working for me for about a year now, i've found it quite handy, sorry if it didn't work for you
uncut thunder
Prophetic Twilight Stone which type is that? attempting to buy the proper type from teh vendor 🙂 thanks
NM i think shadow
high basalt
@sick sentinel no worries mate Ty for your time appreciate it 👍👍
untold vessel
anyone know whats the 3 bis stone for m+?
uneven mason
shrewd grove
dmg taken -> melee -> hover over hits column
I don't think I can see it on mobile. The goal is obviously 100% blocked, correct?
shrewd grove
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FYVKgX62BxpHWQdt/#fight=last&type=auras&source=4&options=16
Any idea why my numbers in my log are different from the numbers in that log? Same pull
strong forum
rasza logs are fucked
fresh igloo
are they from opposite sides
strong forum
because 2 groups are too far away from each other
fresh igloo
when p1 intermission splits, not everything is in range
jagged pier
u need a log for ither side
strong forum
the combat log doesnt pick it up over so much distance
uneven mason
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FYVKgX62BxpHWQdt/#fight=last&type=auras&sou...
Because there is a max distance your logs grab info from
jagged pier
cause it dont reach across
shrewd grove
Ahhh. Well that would make sense. The other logger was the other tank XD
old sinew
just did a run on my lunch break, bit of an underperformance from the ring, or alternatively I just had high variance on the 4 runs I did previously
uneven mason
Howsat rend above SS
old sinew
ae?
uneven mason
And so little revenge
strong forum
looks like a bad AA run
uneven mason
Scuffed
uneven mason
These gems don't seem to care about cpm
untold vessel
storm infused stone should do more overall dps than humming yea
strong forum
in theory
but youre forgetting bosses exist
where storm does horrible
and storm caps out at 3 targets
if you dont hit 3 targets consistently, itll do less dmg than humming
untold vessel
ah
strong forum
so humming is just better
slim dove
also prio dmg better
stuck herald
do you need the crafted belt(frostfire belt) to for humming to be good?
slim dove
this ring is fucking insane on healers
slim dove
like worth 10k dps just tab dotting as resto
strong forum
humming wont perform as well
indigo gulch
anyone1 try using storm stone instead of humming?
strong forum
uneven mason
jagged pier
strong forum
check like 4 sentences above your question
fresh igloo
<:warriorbrain:1083190485637660734>
i love this (and the text that calls it) so damn much lol
fresh igloo
constantly getting hit in the head so no one else does certainly can't be good for mental health.
jagged pier
uneven mason
I should grab nitro just to use :the more you know:
dusky canopy
and yes you cant see it on mobile, only with some tricks and special phone
Little late to the convo but on mobile if you tilt your phone into landscape mode you can then simply press hits once and then the hover window will appear showing blocked hits
strong forum
ic
dusky canopy
I’ll show one sec
strong forum
i have a note, so i have a pseudo mouse where i can hover
uneven mason
Yeah for some reason wcl has the cutoff for indepth information at letter viewport because it's easier to do that than write a second onhover modal
thick glacier
its humming, desorius and what more?
me
vernal vale
So I haven't touched the game in like 2 weeks. How long will it take to set up the new ring?
strong forum
1hr
vernal vale
Oh, that's good to know I need to get it and shake my rust off since I'm probably trialing a new team next week.
strong forum
if they dont butcher it by then
dusky canopy
It’s funny because I thought the rings were suppose to take a couple weeks to grind out
And then we end up doing it in a couple hours lol
I wonder if rares always dropping a key was an oops
slim dove
reskinned voti torghast woulda been better
vernal vale
I didn't even know tge patch dropped until yesterday when I got contacted about trialing and hopped on the game to start to shake a few weeks of rust off.
slim dove
smh
dusky canopy
Honestly beta torghast is what I want
Infinite floors/powers
That was some cheesy fun to be had
slim dove
yess please
valid wasp
Highmountain or normal tauren for prot warr guys? gonna race change, help me out
valid wasp
😦
prime sphinx
kul tiran belly is bis
strong forum
Races don't matter
dusky canopy
Highmountain or normal tauren for prot warr guys? gonna race change, help me out
For real though, You’re basically choosing between an aoe stop that’s always DRd or a ST stop that’s always DRd so pick your poison
strong forum
Play what you like aesthetically
valid wasp
Alright, thanks for the input
warped trellis
Bull rush is also aoe?
The real choice is if you want to pick flowers faster or mine faster
sick sentinel
Races don't matter
my goal still remains the same, all the heritage armors or bust, some day night elf undead maybe
prime sphinx
pick either tauren race - you'll look terrible either way
dusty monolith
any chance to target farm a specific gem? just finished my vault and sadly didnt get twilight
toxic pewter
Troll needs their heritage armor already
old sinew
my goal still remains the same, all the heritage armors or bust, some day night ...
I did all the allied race heritage just can’t be bothered with core races
sick sentinel
which ones are MISSING heritage at this point?
fallow nova
What are the stone dmg/absorb values based on? Because the actual shield I get from the cold frost stone is higher than the one in the tooltip
sick sentinel
dragons don't count
prime sphinx
any chance to target farm a specific gem? just finished my vault and sadly didnt...
vendor where u remove the gems
old sinew
which ones are MISSING heritage at this point?
Ne undead pandas
sick sentinel
since i assume thats coming in late season 4
urban portal
i have a note, so i have a pseudo mouse where i can hover
wtf is this technology
dusty monolith
vendor where u remove the gems
thanks!
sick sentinel
i have a bonus warlock i plan to transfer to allaince
astral valve
It's a small consideration, but sometimes the HIghmountain charging stun is bad positioning. I've also fatfingered it and fell to my death on Terros and Sennarth
strong forum
wtf is this technology
It's fairly new, I think 2014 was the first one
sick sentinel
no bonus shamans to send over tho, so i have to lvl that one
strong forum
Bull rush can literally kill you
Not just falling off
You can get hit in the back by mobs that won't be knocked back
sick sentinel
and also maddge cuz i used the races that can be sham and i could get heritage for
so, i HAVE to level, or boost a shaman if i want alliance sham now
toxic pewter
It’s a real thing tbh turn your back on some mobs and u dead af
Too risky to run imo especially if climbing m+
old sinew
Of course it’s real
I’ve been gibbed by just shield charging and exposing my bs k
Shield charge caster in back gibbed by power attack
It rhymes 
toxic pewter
Can charge off cliffs too and shit
dusky canopy
Yeah high mountains a good time for sure xD
sick sentinel
we'll see how much i feel like spending on this sale
maybe
i wouldnt mind swapping to high mountain gotta turn another toon into a goiblin, same for gnome/worgen/human on alliance
old sinew
I kind of want to change my human female DK to a thicc KT 😏
Right now of the six tanks I have 2 NE, 2 Human, VE and Tauren. Need to mix things up a bit
odd tree
It's a small consideration, but sometimes the HIghmountain charging stun is bad ...
I've also fat fingered it in AV. It can be clutch for a stun or to create some distance.
sick sentinel
the reason i want to do this and collect every transmog
old sinew
I kind of want to play a Chad Orc but I don’t like their racials for tanks
uneven mason
Yeah high mountains a good time for sure xD
The boat fight in battle of dazalor....
odd tree
I'd still prefer dwarf or DiD, but the new tauren tmog has me rethinking a swap
sick sentinel
is so that once im finished, i can freely start swapping toons races years later and if its like a mage or something, i have transmog that isn't terrible
odd tree
Dathea cyclone so you can save leap
uneven mason
I kind of want to play a Chad Orc but I don’t like their racials for tanks
Racisls are legit dwarf and not dwarf
old sinew
NE Meld has gotten value for me
old sinew
Meld 3rd boss TJS. Meld skips in AV
odd tree
Was there any shadow meld tech in mdi this season?
old sinew
I like meld. Also human racial in rat keys to remove stun from thundering 
uneven mason
None of the dungeon has any sort of skips really
old sinew
You can meld those 2 Drakonids in av
sick sentinel
NE fade :
uneven mason
Monk co tank, hm taurens hitting bull charge and taking a swim
dusky canopy
Imo Dwarf is still the best for a tank, it just adds to your own ability to live nothing else beats that
dusky canopy
No it doesn’t because you cast it when everything’s already on dr
hazy sluice
I hatte cowstomp. Its unpredictable stun in more than 5 target groups
slim dove
Imo Dwarf is still the best for a tank, it just adds to your own ability to live...
id rather meld a jade strike tbh
sick sentinel
nah, thats why it's the first thing used in combat
hazy sluice
And adds to stun dr
slim dove
but i havent tanked in like 3 weeks so 🤷
hazy sluice
Every groups so far had enough aoe stuns to Cap stun DR while being uncapped aoe stuns
dusky canopy
id rather meld a jade strike tbh
NE is definitely the only contender imo, fair argument
uneven mason
could prob meld a peck also
Slaps a melee iirc
slim dove
dang.
reef holly
what do we do with the stone fragments?
old sinew
I hatte cowstomp. Its unpredictable stun in more than 5 target groups
Cow stomp being target capped is cringe as fuck I hate it
I play Tauren on bear currently and having stun miss because it hit other mobs is just 😱
Cow stomp is great for bear cuz we don’t have mighty bash anymore but that feature is cringe. Also stun Dr if you run with cudgel Shammy
sick sentinel
isnt the elementals in sbg first room not suppose to keep teleporting back and forth if you engage the pack?
i just was running a 22 sbg and he teleported after i had rounded up the pack
l;ike 10 seconds after
slim dove
never seen that and ive basically had to solo that pack as boomie before in a 16
sick sentinel
well i had them all rounded up
slim dove
more bugs
timber wasp
Guys Im really confused by the pins - what are our best m+ stones?
timber wasp
Ah ty
frigid coral
Do we know yet if that interaction is intended or bugged?
sand drum
feels bit "meh" wowhead says 1 "combo" that is recommended and here we just run same combo nomatter what :p
timber wasp
Id 1000000000% rather have the same combo for eveyrthing
Imagine having to switch between content
ew
strong forum
The wowhead prio list is written as if the stone combo isn't fixed
But it mentions at the 7th spot, (this is a gamble)
For the current "bug" combo
It's an educated guess for it to be a bug because it outperforms everything else heavily
timber wasp
Are there any gems we can just destroy?
twin bramble
Bugged as in its op broken? Or bugged as in it sucks and will be good if ever fixed?
strong forum
OP
strong forum
Are there any gems we can just destroy?
All healing/absorb/utility gems that don't do dmg
twin bramble
So use the one in the pin now, and if they ever fix it, switch to the ones shown on wowhead?
timber wasp
Is there any reasons to keep the others like.. is there an increased chance youll get one of the good ones if you have the others in the family?
strong forum
So use the one in the pin now, and if they ever fix it, switch to the ones shown...
Yes
ionic roost
I wouldn't say it's a Bug, but it's a massive oversight, like the interaction follows the tooltip text to the letter
strong forum
I wouldn't say it's a Bug, but it's a massive oversight, like the interaction fo...
Yes and no, desirous is more dmg gem than a "yeah this is clearly a heal gem"
Feels unintended that the gem can proc the healing reaction from prophetic
Cuz as a result, it'll always proc dmg
Cuz desirous does both
old sinew
I hope they make other synergies better. I’d love to see the tank absorb build actually playable. It’s supposed to be a 424 ring it shouldn’t do 2000 dps with the double absorb + absorbs deal damage layout imo. Same with other layouts.
ionic roost
That's why it's an oversight not a bug, when they make a stone that's Both a Healing and Damage effect
If desirous gave an absorb and not a heal, I'd expect it to trigger the Shining Obsidian stone
dusky canopy
Can the tertiary gems stack
old sinew
?
dusky canopy
Multiple people useing the gem
dusky canopy
Imagine 1000 leech + avoidance
If it stacked
At base item level isn’t it like 380 tertiary stats
old sinew
Isn’t it just the first 5 seconds of combat?
dusky canopy
Ohh..
Ye that’s ass then
I thought it was in combat
Not just the first 5 seconds
old sinew
It buffs anyone though. I get this buff sometimes randomly on the new island from casual Andies
dusky canopy
Yeah I was just suggesting the idea of it maybe being pretty good in keys if it stacked and was active while in combat
But first 5 seconds and not stacking is weak ye
old sinew
It’s 8 seconds after double checking but close enough
dusky canopy
Oh well more fragments 
old sinew
Yeah if it was always active in combat it would be okay. Pretty sure it just exists to be a poison pill for the “proc random gems” gem
Same with the one that gives you speed
dusky canopy
Makes sense
wintry flax
Totem better then Torch?
knotty vortex
are we changing rings or no to that new combo
dusky canopy
For now yes
old sinew
The ring is good yes
dusky canopy
Totem better then Torch?
Both good totem is definitely bis in keys especially a mythic ilvl one, torch is good but you don’t block while channeling it so make sure you’re in wall or something or cast on pull
wintry flax
Ty, i passed up Heroic totem a while back basing my judgement on WoW head. didnt realize totem was good
darn
simple oriole
Can someone tell me if I should craft a 418 lariat or 418 weapon? I currently have 405 lariat and 411 weapon
timber wasp
What's the other option to Humming if we dont have eranog ring?
dusky canopy
Yeah that bites heroic totem is better than all the mythic + trinkets so def hunt for another one
dusky canopy
What's the other option to Humming if we dont have eranog ring?
Frost fire belt
wintry flax
Thanks Brew
dusky canopy
timber wasp
Frost fire belt
I have frostfire belt, I meant whats the other gem option to sim?
dusky canopy
Can someone tell me if I should craft a 418 lariat or 418 weapon? I currently ha...
Imo weapon, however you could sim both options at 418 to get an accurate answer for your current gear
dusky canopy
I have frostfire belt, I meant whats the other gem option to sim?
Are you asking what 3 gems to use? I’m not fully understanding the question
fresh igloo
more primordial stone buffs
plain vapor
timber wasp
Are you asking what 3 gems to use? I’m not fully understanding the question
Whats the alternative to humming if you dont have eranog ring
dusky canopy
Nom is basically trying to say that without belt and ring the humming doesn’t proc as much as what their sims are showing you in the pins.
So you should sim the ring for yourself with the gems and see if it beats your other rings
Does that help?
dusky canopy
https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-primordial-stone-buffs-in-hotfixes-periodic-ef...
Lets goooo
fresh igloo
Does that help?
i think their question is, if humming needs magic damage to work off of, is there another stone to slot in there if you don't have all those sources of magic damage
like echoing or ...
something
i can't recall teh name
timber wasp
Nom is basically trying to say that without belt and ring the humming doesn’t pr...
Yes but what other gems? I can’t put every single combo in the game in there or it’ll take weeks
fresh igloo
flame likced stone maybe, or the storm one?
timber wasp
Alright ty, I’ll try those
fresh igloo
I'm just guessing here
dusky canopy
Ahh yeah alright that makes sense
strong forum
Just sim other combos all the dmg gems
Fire is good, freezing is good, storm is good
And with the crit buff we could see a shift
Which is just dandy now that I used 80 fragements to upgrade other stones
old sinew
When do sims update with this hot fix? I’d like to know if flame licked is good enough to use in replacement when I don’t have enough sources of magic dam
timber wasp
How do you even get the upgrade things? I’ve done lots of keys but haven’t got anything to upgrade the stones yet
dusky canopy
Hard to say you have to sim like nom said
fresh igloo
How do you even get the upgrade things? I’ve done lots of keys but haven’t got a...
JC crafting
dusky canopy
How do you even get the upgrade things? I’ve done lots of keys but haven’t got a...
You use the fragments in a work order to get the upgrade item
timber wasp
Oh rip I’ve been using the fragments to get new stones
strong forum
When do sims update with this hot fix? I’d like to know if flame licked is good ...
ill ask
dusky canopy
It’s 10 per upgrade each stone requires 2 upgrades to hit max
strong forum
for now ill slap dummy
dusky canopy
So 6 upgrades total for max ilvl ring
timber wasp
Do I need anything else tho other than 10?
dusky canopy
Nom I assume the damage gems can proc off each other as well?
dusky canopy
Do I need anything else tho other than 10?
10 fragments 25 gem dust from auction house
timber wasp
Ty
strong forum
Nom I assume the damage gems can proc off each other as well?
yes
im currently simming a few good options
dusky canopy
Oh yeah so now that they Crit I bet it’ll be pretty potent to just run 3 chance on damage to do damage gems
strong forum
oh nvm id have to build locally
timber wasp
I dunno if I want eranog ring but I might hunt it anyway
I got such a good ring
Almost 1000 haste from my ring
inland mesa
Which is just dandy now that I used 80 fragements to upgrade other stones
Yeah I just full sent on 6 stones last night. 😕 guess I have to keep doing the content
strong forum
what would that achieve
dusky canopy
Or re do the rares since they’re reset
strong forum
but you kill rares for keys
timber wasp
Can I go on my alt, get the 6 keys and then trade them to my main
dusky canopy
Oh duh you said you opened the whole vault
I guess you have to wait for rares to drop fragments and hope for the best?
timber wasp
What does opening the whole vault give you?
timber wasp
Ah okay
strong forum
how else do you get fragments 😄
otherwise you get like 1 or 2 randomly
a gem is 6
timber wasp
I’ve been farming rares
strong forum
i only have a few left
plucky fjord
can farm elemental overflow at the war creche and buy bags of oddities
dusky canopy
🧠
dusky canopy
There you go someone who knows
strong forum
yes you can skip
timber wasp
Amazing
dusky canopy
Alts skip straight to getting the 6 keys ye
inland mesa
The primal storm mob that happens every few hours gives a gem, after that it's rng off rares and super low so it's wait for Vault next week I guess
wary spire
How hard is the prot mage tower?
rose canopy
Hey guys. Is there a post somewhere that shows which stones we should be chasing? I tried scrolling back is it flame locked freezing ice and delirious? Wowhead has a list but idk how reliable that is
strong forum
super easy if you know what to do
inland mesa
I did the 3 in the current op combo, freezing, flame licked, and something else
prime sphinx
i mean u probs get enough gems to make atleast 2 full ring setups 424 from 1 vault clear
rose canopy
Thank you
strong forum
i mean u probs get enough gems to make atleast 2 full ring setups 424 from 1 vau...
if you get lucky sure
if youre like me, no
dusky canopy
I’ve cleared 2 floors so far and I’ve got 6 upgrade items I guess that’s fairly lucky?
I also did all available rares yesterday and all quests
jade pulsar
think i got out of vault with 39 fragments
sick sentinel
so about the unstable things
slim dove
sick sentinel
how many unstables does it takes to do 3 gems to max
jade pulsar
ouf
dusky canopy
I also didn’t buy any stones
I just got lucky and got the 3 in the pins right off the bat
sick sentinel
and i can just start gems at max with the same items
jade pulsar
how many unstables does it takes to do 3 gems to max
411 -> 418 -> 424, so 2 for each stone, 6 total
sick sentinel
or like, i've seen the work order thing, but im bit confused
ahh
i just don't want to have to spend 1k per RN lol
next week it will be 500 is more acceptable
strong forum
lots of people do it for 500 too.
prime sphinx
people do it for 1g just for their achi progress
strong forum
everybody and their mom is crafting those rn
dusky canopy
Hit up a guldie
strong forum
cuz its easy money
restive crown
soo i js started doing the vault thing, what are the gems i am looking for m+? (still the one in the pins?)
dusky canopy
Guildie should do it for free
rose quarry
until they nerf/buff again 🙂
restive crown
which tree is prophetic and desirous from?
wary spire
Is there anything in this expansion that isnt broken/bugged?
rose quarry
which tree is prophetic and desirous from?
proph is shadow and desi is necro
restive crown
ok thank you
green kayak
Anybody else with random ninjas in their dungeons? i'm suspecting the gem rings tbh! Happened twice in a ruby now
But the ninjas seem giga random
chrome falcon
do we think sudden death or SoF for razza
we're getting her to p2.5 pretty consistently now
so i might just change to sudden death to hit boss harder
nimble scarab
^
strong forum
so far im super underwhelmed by flamelicked
solid 2k dps loss on st and aoe over humming
astral edge
what does tbd mean for m+?
strong forum
to be determined
rose quarry
to be defined
nimble scarab
it can crit now lol
astral edge
ty
strong forum
it can crit now lol
strong forum
this is 5 targets with flamelicked
median tulip
What order do the adds on Broodkeeper HC spawn in? Only ever tanked the boss before now
nimble scarab
yuck
strong forum
sure its rppm but like
grizzled kite
@median tuliplook around the room for the burning pillar thingies
thats where they'll spawn
old sinew
Raid-or-die gaming
strong forum
either this was beyond unlucky procs or it just sucks
median tulip
Yeah, but there's a set order, right?
grizzled kite
Yeah, but there's a set order, right?
yes there is a WA for spawn timers
nimble scarab
kinda stinks to play around all their tuning w/ investing dormant shards and stuff but w/e its week 1
old sinew
I’m just going to craft frostfire belt I can’t imagine no eranog gimps the proc rate that much
dusky canopy
Yeah that’s how it is salsa just chill for a few days
They always hot fix new stuff like this
And racing to get a log is irrelevant because they just removed all the stone parses
median tulip
I was hoping for a map, TBH
nimble scarab
i got really lucky with my vault so i'm just gonna pump into the busted 3 right now
strong forum
they removed raids with warlocks in them before a certain upload period
my r5 had to die for it
cuz i uploaded too fast
nimble scarab
shout out jeweled signet u were my ride or die since m+ opened ill miss u
dusky canopy
Rip 415 melandrus
chrome falcon
i've worked full days every day since ring buff, TLDR is Humming + Prophetic + Desirous Stone for ST in raid (razza m specifically)?
hazy sluice
My 415 melandrus ring with socket sims better than my 421 without socket 😦
strong forum
ofc
dusky canopy
Well yeah
dusky canopy
Socket is huge
strong forum
i've worked full days every day since ring buff, TLDR is Humming + Prophetic + D...
everywhere
tepid lion
anyone know what the timer WA is called
jade pulsar
jesus
wheat ore
They got buffed just now right?
strong forum
this is the normal combo
jade pulsar
They got buffed just now right?
not the stones nom is using
dusky canopy
ok im getting mega lucky procs rn
jade pulsar
i held off upgrading in case a nerf/rebalance would come today - but think it's pretty safe to pull the trigger on upgrading now
more changes will for sure come though
latent hull
I was hoping for a map, TBH
median tulip
Thank you :)
scenic mural
this is the normal combo
From the pins?
jade pulsar
yes
jade pulsar
do note this as well though @scenic mural
scenic mural
Ty
strong forum
freezing+flamelicked+storm also did pretty well just now 
4.5-5k on ST and 7k on aoe
fair topaz
desirous + prophetic + flamelicked goes crazy
strong forum
thats almost humming dps
strong forum
desirous + prophetic + flamelicked goes crazy
not from my experience
did only 4k dps
fair topaz
on raidbots it puts both of them in my top 4 DPS abilities
fair topaz
400 w/ the ring
fair topaz
i guess it's not all that good when getting into higher ilevels?
fair topaz
my original set up was indomitable + desirous + flamelicked
but i switched out indomitable for prophetic
strong forum
prophetic doubles the other gems procrate
fair topaz
i feel like i won't need indomitable with desirous' procrate doubled
plus i already have granyth's enduring scale and that procs decently enough
tiny sierra
did they just buff all stones? im seeing different values in tooltips now
jade pulsar
they buffed some, making them able to crit
https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-primordial-stone-buffs-in-hotfixes-periodic-effects-can-now-crit-332084#comments
tiny sierra
i know, but im seeing like 21850 damage for a 424 desirous for example
yesterday im sure it was about ~18k
tiny sierra
i had flask vers up, clicked it off and the tooltip value remained the same
ripe seal
So upgrading Humming, Desirous and Prophetic should be on hold for a bit?
nocturne spindle
Humming is probably always gonna be the best damage gem?
If they're just buffing damage for all of them
Unless they're really trying to make them all equal
jade pulsar
from hunter apl writer
fuuck i hate shit like this, i just wanna upgrade but hate wasting fragments if something gets put in the ground...
ripe seal
Got raid later tonight so might put off upgrading them until right before
strong forum
no
sick sentinel
i'll try it i guess
nocturne spindle
It's already pinned in a not click bait thumbnail video
sick sentinel
indom is ass, at least in comparison to cold frost
I don't understand the defensive value its like 1 ignore pain every 12 seconds?
shining every time my absorb activates, i deal dmg in front of me
cold goes off every 20 seconds and so just gotta see which of the other absorbs it pairs best with
merry agate
do i care about this new ring? i have heroic diurna ring and a crafted 418
velvet current
do i care about this new ring? i have heroic diurna ring and a crafted 418
Probably.
Some of the damage stones just got massively buffed.
merry agate
Some of the damage stones just got massively buffed.
ahh so i should assume it will be buffed to the point that its bis for just about everyone?
tiny sierra
im seeing lots of value increases, specially for healing gems
astral crystal
desi/proph combo is not gonna work anymore
tiny sierra
gotta wait for a complete list of buffs
astral crystal
and there'll be some 40%-110% buffs
new combos
oh ppl already posted it here kek
god damn blizzard
the desi/proph combo was so good
but too much fun detected
steel juniper
pretty sure its unchanged?
marble cipher
only desi procrate is lowered right? from blue posts I can find
and only ever so slightly
velvet current
desi/proph combo is not gonna work anymore
It's 2.5 to 2.25 proc rate.
pastel atlas
quick question cuz I cant test it - can u add socket to the onyx annulet? the one with 6 things from the vault
steel juniper
What is your source?
astral crystal
it's a bug that was present in 10.0.7 PTR, was fixed, then appeared on live again, source is wait for blue post
pastel atlas
they just released some hotfixes and didnt fix that, what do u think they are waiting on
old sinew
If Blizzard saw this interaction and reduced the blood proc rate, that’s them acknowledging the existence of this combo and saying they’re fine with it existing but that they want to bring the power down slightly
🤷♂️
astral crystal
⏰
sick sentinel
So right now the double proc still works yeah?
velvet current
You might be right, but let's not make assumptions based off of PTR.
velvet current
So right now the double proc still works yeah?
As far as we know, yes. Nothing in the datamines points toward it being fixed.
Just reduced a bit.
sick sentinel
Fix would probably be a code change
So you couldn't see it in a hotfix I assume?
Since it wouldn't appear in the dbc files.
old sinew
Desi is going from a 2.5 to 2.25 proc rate.
The question is why would they nerf this shit gem if they intended to break the combo 🤔🤔🤔
velvet current
The question is why would they nerf this shit gem if they intended to break the ...
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stuck sequoia
right on, whats your usual overall for no?
strong forum
70-80k
stuck sequoia
fosho, im usually 65-70
hazy sluice
Like really tell your secrets
strong forum
press button
uneven mason
No has some chonky pulls you can do as long as your stops are on point
hazy sluice
Which flask/ pot ?
strong forum
eye in the storm and shocking disclosure
stuck sequoia
ye for aa/no i usually only exclusively use shocking
hazy sluice
Shocking for every pot ? Or just the huge pulls
uneven mason
Aspiring to be like Nom is like trying to reach haste cap, the value exists but it's not logically possible.
jade pulsar
eye in the storm and shocking disclosure
not playing glacial fury now with humming?
jade pulsar
its bugged, like that for everyone
uneven mason
Display error
strong forum
GF is mega dmgf lopss
uneven mason
Betting 443 is the cap for next tier
jade pulsar
aight, thought since more magic dmg
stuck sequoia
lel figured it was a weird visual bug
uneven mason
And because it's maxed out it's just displaying that value
mighty valley
armory does not seem super well maintained, frequent display errors
old sinew
GF is mega dmgf lopss
I thought glacial fury was good in TJS
strong forum
no
vers flask is more dmg than GF
and eye in the storm is more dmg than vers on aoe
old sinew
Yeah I know the power of eye in the storm in AA, versa outperforming glacial fury is definitely surprising to me though.
strong forum
does gf do 4% dmg for you=+
indigo void
guys prophetic in which category it is shadow or necro?
old sinew
I dunno I’d have to scroll up and look
Oh right I was using eye on that key
Uhh… I don’t know. Is that how much you get from tepid versa? 4%?
old sinew
Maybe I’ll switch to versa then. I remember early in the patch glacial fury was really good for ST
But gear has improved
And skill
strong forum
yes
solar sandal
wait how the fuck do you get a 443 ring...
o.o
can you upgrade the stones more than twice?
manic canopy
then the primal stone combo still the same?? or something change??
jade pulsar
guys prophetic in which category it is shadow or necro?
shadow - i gambled for it yesterday
jade pulsar
wait how the fuck do you get a 443 ring...
visual bug
signal shuttle
How should my opener be when pulling mobs? I constantly lose threat and aggro transfers to dps, is there a way to prevent that? I normally do charge > thunder clap > revenge but it seems that it sometimes don't do the trick. Any thoughts?
solar sandal
lmao ok. def not playing the same game as y'all otherwise 🤣
solar sandal
How should my opener be when pulling mobs? I constantly lose threat and aggro tr...
dragon if you have it i guess?
usually taht's enough for me tho lol
ravager
we have a lot of aoe shit
solar sandal
i kinda just charge into packs and start rolling my face across the keyboard
old sinew
You’re looking to blow all of your big stuff. Dragon roar, shield charge, etc
solar sandal
threat's not really an issue
sick sentinel
i tested shining + cold frost + gleaming out this is a +2
mighty valley
How should my opener be when pulling mobs? I constantly lose threat and aggro tr...
sometimes it's just on the dps to wait like, an entire second before bursting like crazy. but generally you should be able to open with your CDs. pre-throwing ravager before charging can help, then you demo shout, thunderous roar, shield charge, continue normal rotation
signal shuttle
threat's not really an issue
for me it is 😅 i'm kinda new on the spec
solar sandal
it is if you're grouping and tehy're hitting
signal shuttle
sometimes it's just on the dps to wait like, an entire second before bursting li...
noted.
solar sandal
like if you charge into pack 1 and clap, and move to pack 2
you'll lose threat
and yeah that's on dps to just chill out or md/tricks you if you wanna not
signal shuttle
like if you charge into pack 1 and clap, and move to pack 2
I see. I was also doing this
uneven mason
We burst pretty hard, I don't think I've met a DPS who can pull aggro yet
solar sandal
yeah like if we're set up and stopped, nothing should pull off us
mighty valley
honestly dps should be waiting for everything to be grouped so their opening burst actually hits everything anyway
solar sandal
regardless of how high they burst
signal shuttle
We burst pretty hard, I don't think I've met a DPS who can pull aggro yet
then i'm doing something very wrong then
uneven mason
then i'm doing something very wrong then
Let's start with the basic, are you using defensive stance
solar sandal
tanking defensive stones is feelsbadman
signal shuttle
Let's start with the basic, are you using defensive stance
yep
uneven mason
Don't
solar sandal
Let's start with the basic, are you using defensive stance
this hasnt really affected my threat tbh
but i guess you get some more damage out of it
nimble scarab
20% more…
mighty valley
treat defensive stance as a CD you use for tankbusters
uneven mason
Like 110% is more than 99%
sick sentinel
this wont be my main ring, but its gunna be one i want to have in bags for defensive option
signal shuttle
oh wow this is something new for me I'm surprised I was always in def stance
I will do that though
got any more tips 🙂 I'm ready to learn
opaque drum
guys did they buffed strom infused aswell? did 9.95M dmg on a 20
uneven mason
That's vague
signal shuttle
Also what spec
I was using the generic icy-veins m+ build
dusky canopy
It can Crit now
plain vapor
sick sentinel
yeah, legit, i think that im gunna craft the potion thing, cuz its a haste stick
plain vapor
Desirous Blood Stone - Effect buffed by 18.5%
RPPM reduced to 2.25 (was 2.5)
sick sentinel
next spark
signal shuttle
i...think that's probably fine tbh lol
will stick to it then, if y'all have any other suggestions or builds just let me know 🙂
dapper vapor
dusky canopy
Oh shit
sick sentinel
- 12% yogi buff
solar sandal
what trinkets are you running @signal shuttle
sick sentinel
i'll take it
dusky canopy
So with two hot fixes coming out back to back and them not breaking the humming interaction I’m betting it’s safe to send the upgrades but I’m going to hold out a bit longer just to see
signal shuttle
what trinkets are you running <@1071847061051408515>
dragon games equipment and the flame thing, change it tho
what should I aim for? any bis trinkets?
uneven mason
Does IV use bt?
mighty valley
if you're raiding, all-totem + whetstone
nimble scarab
So with two hot fixes coming out back to back and them not breaking the humming ...
ur going to have a plethora of dormants next week u will prob have each gem maxxed w/ multicraft unstable and such
signal shuttle
if you're raiding, all-totem + whetstone
I solely m+
lone eagle
dusky canopy
ur going to have a plethora of dormants next week u will prob have each gem maxx...
This is true but I’m holding out until just before raid to upgrade whatever we determine to be bis at the time