Chain CCs on them, be liberal with CDs to survive them, last resort kite
#protection
mighty valley
daring marlin
Depends entirely on the healer. If it's a Druid I've never had orbs on me. If it's a Paladin I have to run like crazy.
cloud umbra
im under the impression that nobody knows how the orbs work.. I've stood still as much as I could in every key.. and still 9/10 times get chased
mighty valley
I’ve heard so many umbrelskul theories that hold up for one attempt and then not the next one
At this point I’m kinda convinced it’s pure random targeting
cloud umbra
i alt a resto druid and sometimes even with 10 stacks i cant get them to follow me
so i think its random as well*
hybrid gust
is fear not worth taking?
slim dove
always take fear
sick sentinel
its a good button if you are a good player 🙂
i solved the problem of is inting fear shout a bad button
dusk tulip
it's probably me being 5head and missing something but why does hryja sometimes do about 5 damage but then other times do 700k with her frontal?
warm plinth
Sounds like sometimes you're accidentally stacking IP and defensives and other times you're not.
daring marlin
Time for some rucking on the stairmaster baby
hybrid gust
i feel like eranog trinket sucks but i donno what else to use
warm plinth
Yeah decoration is not very good
hybrid gust
i guess i can use whetstone
hybrid gust
should be good for aggro too
urban portal
i used decoration on DPS for a bit
i was too low ilevel
and decoration also procced fire rings
hybrid gust
oh
livid helm
for revival catalyst, will it really only let me do 6 pieces on a single character?
warm plinth
You can only accumulate 6 charges at one time
If you spend a charge, you can accumulate another with your next weekly turn-in
livid helm
okay, is it the renascent lifeblood?
warm plinth
Yes
livid helm
do I have a UI bug? it says I have 3, but the catalyst charges is still red
livid helm
yeah, it says 3 here, but in the console 0, so im guessing i have only picked up 3 so far or something
warm plinth
Use this script: /dump C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(2167).quantity
That'll tell you how many you have on that toon
/dump C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(2166).quantity will tell you how many you've accumulated total.
livid helm
kk, thanks!
warm plinth
i'm assuming that total there is probably how many you've accumulated
livid helm
^ yeah thats right
high folio
is stance dancing worth it in prot?
warm plinth
We don't really stance dance per se. We mostly stay in battle stance outside of a few situations where the DR is more important.
high folio
We don't really stance dance per se. We mostly stay in battle stance outside of...
thats what i thought, i generally jump into defensive stance when i know big damage is coming, or if im out of cd's/resources
warm plinth
Generally there are some tankbusters/boss fights where it's not a bad idea to be in defensive stance (hyrja, first boss of AV, 2nd boss of RLP, Crawth in AA)
high folio
okay cool thats ab what i thought, guild was telling me to stay in defensive stance at all times bc big streamer X or Y doesnt use battle stance
ancient venture
theres a warrior in my guild whos saying more haste is better no matter way up to around 6900 haste, this is for keys and raid. is that the case? im currently at 3.05k crit, 3.47k haste, 1.6k mast and 2.9k vers, do i need to stack more haste for raid/keys? or is what i have currently fine? im currently doing mythic terros/sennarth prog and pushing 21/23 keys
warm plinth
What you have is fine, but that doesn't mean he's wrong. We don't really stop stacking haste until 7k haste which is when the next DR tier starts. For damage that may not be the case, but haste will remain your best defensive secondary.
ancient venture
should i start to convert all my stats to haste prio such as gems and enchants? or does it matter if i cant hit that 7k? which i dont think anyone can yet?
warm plinth
Yeah you can't hit 7k haste right now, not realistically anyway. But yes your gems and enchants and such should generally be haste (or in the case of gems, haste + x)
ancient venture
Thanks for the info
warm plinth
You should ask him about it
Or tell the raid leader to ask him about it
Oh, that's pretty shit, sorry man
shell mortar
Well if it's a pug, you shouldn't expect people to not be assholes
Have had people need roll on tank trinkets and shields when they have 0 io as tank and 0 raid boss kills as tank but hey, that's pugs
At this point I only do raid for vault
south zealot
round pendant
dw the absolute dogshit druid healer who left my last raid during council (who I had to beg to get back so we could get the most god-awful kill ever)
got icon
rolled a 97
"I prefer playing my monk" he said as an excuse for not coming back
The raid loot system is dogshit and archaic and needs to be revamped, I'll fight anyone on this
so far I've had grieftorch (heroic), eranog ring x2, and icon x1 lost and it's always taken by the worst performers
My friend's still stuck with broodkeeper normal trinket too
ionic fern
so far I've had grieftorch (heroic), eranog ring x2, and icon x1 lost and it's a...
Don't worry, in a non-pug i've also lost those multiple times.
round pendant
Yeah I'm not really trying to say I deserve the loot, it's just a system that inherently feels bad
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
round pendant
Vault is the only thing that makes it worth raiding unless you're doing it with a guild
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> hi ily
Good morning Stop Using Barbaric Training, how are you?
round pendant
Imo they should just like
Give you tokens for clearing raid content that you can eventually spend on specific pieces of gear
ionic fern
BACK TO DKP'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tame jasper
Vault is the only thing that makes it worth raiding unless you're doing it with ...
Yeah, gimme the dateha neck for mount 😂
tame jasper
BACK TO DKP'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With ingame suport 🙂
tame jasper
Literally 3/4ths of the group get NOTHING
In vanilla molten core nobody got anything except those druids who got full T1 in a single run - every week…
sick sentinel
How do we increase the amount ignore pain reduces? My cap is 153k atm but when I used mainstat potion giving me like 660 more strength it stayed at 153k?
round pendant
Always hated it tbf, at least it wasn't bad when I was raiding with a guild back in Legion
round pendant
How do we increase the amount ignore pain reduces? My cap is 153k atm but when I...
It caps at 30% of your max hp, presumably base max hp before buffs
sick sentinel
ahhh okay. Does strength increase our survivability at all then?
round pendant
it's the best stat
ionic fern
It caps at 30% of your max hp, presumably base max hp before buffs
Not base. Just general.
round pendant
neat
sick sentinel
How does strength increase our survivability?
ionic fern
ahhh okay. Does strength increase our survivability at all then?
Yes. Strength works into Vanguard.
sick sentinel
What's vanguard?
tame jasper
@ionic fern Do you have an AA22 Log I can compare to mine?
ionic fern
It's a passive we have which increases our Armor by 100% of our Strength.
@sick sentinel
sick sentinel
oh cool
warm plinth
Good morning Stop Using Barbaric Training, how are you?
lol I'm good. The nickname has been very successful. I've gotten multiple DMs asking about it. I am converting people
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> Do you have an AA22 Log I can compare to mine?
You should compare to someone who actually knows how to play.
😂
sick sentinel
Never played barbaric training, seems kinda troll to increase rage cost by 50% for a 25% dmg increase
warm plinth
It is troll
And it's not even a big damage increase in the scenarios that you use it
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> Do you have an AA22 Log I can compare to mine?
Maybe i have, maybe not.
Honestly i can't remember.
You can check.
ionic fern
lol I'm good. The nickname has been very successful. I've gotten multiple DMs ...
Guess what i'm playing on Diurna tho.
warm plinth
Time to go stalk Mwahi
ionic fern
warm plinth
Parsers gotta parse
tame jasper
You should compare to someone who actually knows how to play.
You are such a person, me not. Me bad 😦
tame jasper
You can check.
Thx
warm plinth
Balloons are fun
tame jasper
One of my biggest problems this season is that I waste rage (what I never did in SL), while having the feeling I smash as fast as I can and CPM looks also fine I think.
Will compare to your when back home. wCL on mobile is bad 😂
round pendant
imagine parsing like this and saying you don't know how to play
stop sandbagging
tame jasper
No one ever gets me one.
🎈🎈🎈
ionic fern
imagine parsing like this and saying you don't know how to play
See, there's a difference.
To you maybe i'm playing well.
But to me i'm playing poorly when comparing to Sense for example.
warm plinth
I can't post my logs here or no one will ever listen to a word I say ever again
round pendant
To.. me? You're objectively playing well to parse fucking 4th on kurog
Yeah you're not #1 but no one defines "good" as #1
tame jasper
But to me i'm playing poorly when comparing to Sense for example.
I feel the same when I read what Sense, Tatt, Pika or Nome is doing
round pendant
sorry let me swap that
ionic fern
I wanna get better ranks but we're not re-killing anymore.
Just progressing and extending Diurna.
😦
ionic fern
To.. me? You're objectively playing well to parse fucking 4th on kurog
Have to keep telling yourself you're trash in order to improve.
round pendant
I agree on that point
I wanna get a good parse on M Eranog and Council but man
Pugs won't let me pad on the adds on eranog
and council is just a shitshow so I'm too busy freaking out to do good damage
ionic fern
Je, Eranog parsing is a nightmare.
round pendant
flame dance SLAPS
ionic fern
Everything dies soooo fast.
round pendant
Hard to figure out what I'm doing wrong tho or if it's just a group thing
We fucking lusted on the wall add
ionic fern
Check casts.
round pendant
instead of the boss itself
ionic fern
We fucking lusted on the wall add
round pendant
I was like "we don't need to do that."
Then we got to the wall and it had 30% hp by the time we got squished
I should have just kicked everyone and made a new group
ionic fern
Pugging indeed is a nightmare.
round pendant
Because Council did not go well
You're pressing IP a lot more than me
🤔
But I'm not wasting much rage
IP = damage by reducing avatar cooldown tho, right?
ionic fern
Yes.
You press IP to avoid ragecapping.
Which feeds into AM.
If you're not pressing IP as much as me, what's the SS/TC casts like?
round pendant
I wasted 3 rage oh no
tame jasper
Pugging indeed is a nightmare.
Welcome to my world… working on 22 atm
ionic fern
I think he's comparing Raid.
round pendant
Eranog Mythic
warm plinth
Ah
If you're not wasting rage and you're casting less IPs than him, then my initial guess is that you aren't pressing your abilities enough.
ionic fern
Your log, my log.
Damage done->Targets(to check add damage)
Casts (to check CPM).
warm plinth
More revenge = more shield slam = more rage = more revenge 
ionic fern
Would give a quick overview.
warm plinth
Classic yam smh
round pendant
Be sure to line up TR's etc with Adds.
Yeah that got me from an 82->88 parse with a significantly longer fight
So maybe in my next group with a bloodlust at the start I'll get above 92 or something
I am shooting for the stars
ionic fern
round pendant
Tbh that's probably why my council dps is so low too
Pressing IP too much instead of Revenge
ionic fern
Oh ya.
round pendant
I swear I got out of that habit tho, maybe I just need to think harder
ionic fern
Council is a full on TC/Revenge pad.
And also a "play this weird talent build" fight.
round pendant
Yeah 9.3 IP on council, 6 minute fight btw
warm plinth
I'd like to play your weird talent build if you know what I mean
round pendant
tbh my parse got ruined by everyone dying
warm plinth
Just run grieftorch then parse gets improved by everyone dying
round pendant
people died too fast for me to get many extra casts from it hehe
But yeah grieftorch is great in pugs
round pendant
That fight is such a shitshow though
warm plinth
I'm jk btw don't listen to me on raid things
round pendant
Literally had this demon hunter get mark and walk away from the group.. and then back onto me and the cotank and some other people
warm plinth
I literally can't even tell you what Kurog looks like
much less what to do on the fight
round pendant
:(
warm plinth
Uh oh, you've upset Mwahi
ionic fern
cinder storm
Ez ban
round pendant
I can't even parse as good with an op trinket
I got my grieftorch from the fuckin 5/5 Mythic dungeon weekly chest btw
same day as I got whetstone
tame jasper
GO HOME HE SAID!
😄
round pendant
ionic fern
Time to change yam's name to parses bad with grieftorch imo
I'm too nice for that.
cinder storm
warm plinth
I know, you're a nice boi
round pendant
I know what I have to do
I should use Barbaric Training 🤔
That way, pressing Revenge ACTUALLY spends enough rage
and I'll press IP less by default
ionic fern
Trick yourself.
round pendant
Genius
round pendant
On council I press SS/TC/Revenge fairly evenly
I should prob SS less too?
Maybe only procs?
round pendant
B-but you have 30% more tclap/revenges than SS
ionic fern
My Council parse is garbage.
I keep dying there.
Check some of the top logs and compare to them.
round pendant
There you go calling a #41 parse garbage again
round pendant
Aight nome did 70 SS 71 Revenge 57 TClap
warm plinth
I'm sensing some real imposter syndrome from Mwahi tonight
@shut summit can you tell Mwahi he's a good woyer
ionic fern
I'm sensing some real imposter syndrome from Mwahi tonight
I'm still tilted. Some weeks ago i had R1 possibility on Council.
BUT I MONGOD AND DIED.
round pendant
How do you die on council?
warm plinth
round pendant
I fell in the lava once, so..
ionic fern
You have all the bosses on you, go clean blizzard, get smacked in the back from Opa.
round pendant
Oh yeah I guess that can happen
round pendant
I made it a thing to just leap to the lava and charge back
People fucking grief me when I try to run to it
and they yoink it like 5x and I get frozen
round pendant
I think you can do it without losing a gcd
Well I guess charge inherently loses one
But it gives rage so as long as you don't waste it's probably ok?
ionic fern
Real play is AoE taunt , smack the raid with the Flame frontal, get rid of your blizzard.
It would also reset your Grief since someone would probably die.
rain kestrel
Anywhere I can find a list of what Spell Block actually blocks ?
warm plinth
In the pins
that reminds me
@ionic fern did you know that both arms and fury have the updated reflect sheet in their section of #268491842637660160 but prot doesn't lol
rain kestrel
Ty will check it out
ionic fern
Sorry, i'm a fury main.
Don't care about noob prots.
shell mortar
Don't @ me
How is execute boring
You EXECUTE
Brother
You're dropping mf'ing guillotines on their asses
rain kestrel
Okay, so I guess Dark Claw its spell blockable.
How does spell block work tho ? Is it 100% chance or also based on regular block chance ?
digital delta
Boring.
tbf fury is as boring as it can be, started fury with rasza prog and literally almost fell asleep in p1, 2nd evening i went arms and had much more fun
warm plinth
DoTs cannot be blocked
digital delta
as arms you pretty much spam aswell
rain kestrel
And bleeds
ionic fern
tbf fury is as boring as it can be, started fury with rasza prog and literally a...
To each their own.
To me, Arms is a snoozefest.
fresh igloo
by the time you hit M+ 20 and higher, do you sit in defensive stance a lot, or still go in battle stance mostly and just switch to defensive where you're feeling more pain than usual?
digital delta
To me, Arms is a snoozefest.
ye i dont feel like it is, you either reducing your CS cd or optimize the ToM window
warm plinth
Damage reduction works on everything @rain kestrel
There may be a few things that Demo Shout won't work on but I don't think there's anything relevant in this expansion. Things that are sourced from the environment, not the actual boss, would not be decreased by demo shout.
ionic fern
by the time you hit M+ 20 and higher, do you sit in defensive stance a lot, or s...
No. 20's you don't sit in dstance pretty much at all.
On 22's i tend to swap to dstance for some spicy abilities depending on weeks.
fresh igloo
hm. ok. just tanked my first 21 and it was pretty painful. but it was RLP too, so I didn't expect otherwise.
haven't pushed in to tougher keys as a tank before this season so just trying to be a little better.
valid oar
New to prot, is there a way to sim?
queen canopy
is there anything like tank notes updated for dragonflight M+?
ionic fern
New to prot, is there a way to sim?
For DPS you can sim.
warm plinth
New to prot, is there a way to sim?
For damage, yes.
ionic fern
is there anything like tank notes updated for dragonflight M+?
Not that i'm aware of.
sick sentinel
Is the pinned Message about “IMO current best M+ spec, still the bees knees ?
warm plinth
Yes
warm plinth
No one can sim tankiness and anyone who claims they can is lying.
BiS for defense is ilevel
ionic fern
or you just take dmg? 🙂
You play well. 🙂
warm plinth
M+ can be simmed by simming aoe patchwerk (generally 5-10 targets) and ST patchwerk and using your judgment from there (for damage).
stiff gate
for those of you who run double shield wall, what is the cd of wall approximately in m+?
lofty widget
1.30 ish afaik
stiff gate
okay, considering taking it for TJS but wanted to know the difference since ive literally only ever run the other choice on that node for every key so far this xpac lol
is it possible to get 3 walls in p2 of 3rd boss TJS? I can get 2 with the cdr talent
lofty widget
well avg cd with wall is 1 min, but since you start with 2 charges its probably possible?
lofty widget
am isnt really a flex point tho
amber siren
correct
stiff gate
i mean yeah, you always have am
amber siren
i meant without wall and still am
stiff gate
just talking strictly defender's aegis vs impenetrable wall
ionic fern
SW-Spell Block - Spell Block - SW - SW
warm plinth
You really shouldn't have more than like...3 strikes though. Maybe 4 on tyrannical but in that case you wouldn't have 3 walls anyway.
ionic fern
You really shouldn't have more than like...3 strikes though. Maybe 4 on tyranni...
Nice joke.
😄
stiff gate
You really shouldn't have more than like...3 strikes though. Maybe 4 on tyranni...
24 tyrann last week i got 6 😦
warm plinth
😱
ionic fern
i lived 5 but had nothing for 6
Exernal+SR+DS?
stiff gate
used SR on 1/3/5, demo shout somewhere, got external on 3
warm plinth
Well with 6 strikes, that's like what, 80 seconds with 1st at 0 seconds. So you're still only going to have 2 walls, not 3
stiff gate
rough
warm plinth
So you'd have to do something like Demo+SR+IV first, Wall 2nd, Spell Block 3 and 4, Demo+SR+IV 5, Wall 6
stiff gate
i think maybe the best cooldown for 6 is just "battle rez me"
warm plinth
Can use last stand in there somewhere too, probably on one of the spell block ones
And use healing pot on the other Spell block one
You can use def stance for each one too if needed
stiff gate
i def stance all of them for sure
warm plinth
So you'd do like, IV with 3rd, LS with 4th, then IV will be back for 5
And then you could use heal pot with one fo the wall ones
of*
And obviously external would be in there somewhere
merry trout
in RLP, do u guys kill fire dragon or avoid it?
jagged pier
i mean in pugs ive tried to avoid it but theres always that on ranged that stands back and pulls it
merry trout
ah
warm plinth
Ideally you avoid it, at least I would in high fort keys
It gets quite spicy sub-50 unless people are blasting
quick elk
Still hunting trinkets, but have ruby. which buff do you normal train up. I've got the haste one atm. thinking of switching to the AOE one
jagged pier
u train ST
quick elk
oh nice and easy answer, thanks
shell mortar
i mean in pugs ive tried to avoid it but theres always that on ranged that stand...
Pull the pack on the stairs to the side of the pack, ranged will be forced to follow and no chance of them pulling fire drake then
Packs*
jagged pier
i do that
oblique quarry
Does target count matter for what stone or do we just send on cd?
jagged pier
u send
shell mortar
Aha, unlucky
faint mica
where do we get specs roles on the discord?
shell mortar
Guess I've simply been lucky in my RLP pugs
ionic fern
where do we get specs roles on the discord?
No real "spec roles" outside of coloured names.
faint mica
Oh ok, on rogue/dh discords there is specs rôles for everyone nvm 🙂
warm plinth
The spec roles are to differentiate like the stormforged peeps
hollow slate
When you tank kurog and are about to move him over to storm from fire at 96 or 97 energy, it feels like he sometimes has a cast or melee attack there delaying the move to 98 or 99, are we doing something wrong or is that just RNG?
jagged pier
i just move based on time
1:59 fight time
and i start ot move
works for me at least
hollow slate
same every time? do you pull boss from range at start or charge in to him?
jagged pier
i just sort of strafe into the next zone
at 1:59
🤷
as long as he changes at 2:00
its works
hollow slate
I mean at start of fight when you pull the boss
jagged pier
just pull him straight into the first zone
lone eagle
Boss is tanked ~6-9 yards from the line
as soon as it hits 96, I taunt him over
I move away during his fire lines so that he can just beeline over
just 15 yards over the line so there's no stopping or anything
jagged pier
yes
wanton bridge
still bait with haste?
jagged pier
kinda ye
young mango
I use it st its okay i think between 1.1-1.5k dps through a Dungeons
stark turret
which guide is the most reliable one? I find myself getting different infos on every other site
how do you handle TC during avatar? wowhead says it's the highest prio while other guides say that shield slam stays > TC and that you only have to watch out for the decreased cd of TC
jagged pier
its every other gcd
stark turret
what about revenge and the tier bonus then?
jagged pier
what about it
stark turret
I often find myself pressing Shieldslam - tc - ss - tc - ss - tc with no time for revenge
jagged pier
ye
stark turret
does revenge get a higher prio when the set bonus isnt up?
jagged pier
no
stark turret
or do you just let it fall off
jagged pier
not in avatar
stark turret
also in the opener, some other guy with a higher rank told me it's always avatar/shield block -> ravager -> demo shout -> roar -> shield charge, while (I think it was ) icy veins says that you weave in a TC there
wanton bridge
as pwar Im guessing its the same as bear, you just set loot spec to fury or arms or something?
(bear does feral)
ionic fern
also in the opener, some other guy with a higher rank told me it's always avatar...
Definitely not IV.
inner hound
in big pulls of like 8+ mobs with ravager running I often just press tc+revenge. seems to be the highest short term dps with cds running
ionic fern
Ravager->Charge+Avatar->SB->SS->CD's.
ionic fern
as pwar Im guessing its the same as bear, you just set loot spec to fury or arms...
Yes, unless you need a shield.
ionic fern
in big pulls of like 8+ mobs with ravager running I often just press tc+revenge....
Nothing wrong with that.
stark turret
Definitely not IV.
amber siren
for aoe yes, TC is in there
stark furnace
Definitely not IV.
Is there anything else you cant get if you loot spec as arms? I have crafted wep and shield so dont need 1h or shield. Wondered if theres any trinkets you cant get? Like all totem or decoration?
ionic fern
That's like a 6th cast..you wrote the first 3. 😂
ionic fern
Is there anything else you cant get if you loot spec as arms? I have crafted wep...
If you go Arms you also can't get 1h.
Trinket wise you would like to get All-Totem (drops for Prot), but drops from raid.
Now that i look at that opener, i gotta swap TR/SC.
stark turret
That's like a 6th cast..you wrote the first 3. 😂
WEll it's between Demo Shout and Shield Charge apparently, which totally is "weaving it in" the opener I wrote
jagged pier
guide wrong 
ionic fern
What is wrong? 👀
ionic fern
Eeeh.
stark furnace
Ok so loot vault as prot till i have all totem? Assuming i want it
ionic fern
TR->SC sure. Taking care of that tonight.
inner hound
That's all just for max aggro though right? Ideally you want all rends applied before you even shout and stuff
or is getting it on cd > rends getting buffed
blazing condor
you wanna min max the demo shout buff
jagged pier
nah u want TR going tbh
who cares about rend ticks u get enough of them in demo window
blazing condor
booming voice buffs tr right
jagged pier
ye
faint mica
I should craft : Lariat/Weapon/Shield/Belt/Wrist with 5 firsts sparks?
or we can't lariat + belt + wrists ?
potent gulch
or we can't lariat + belt + wrists ?
can't
jagged pier
shield > wep
faint mica
what should I consider for 5th craft? is there a slot where we only got shitty stats?
jagged pier
whatever u want
potent gulch
what should I consider for 5th craft? is there a slot where we only got shitty s...
choose the one that you don't have
fiery pendant
Tips for living the double dragon add packs on diurna mythic? I have an evoker for one bleed cleanse, but after that it’s externals or death, is that normal? Just need to rotate wall / pain sup and time dilation and then have them dead before a 4th cast*?
ionic fern
i mean u should only get 1 double bleed
I've gotten multiple doubles. 😦
jagged pier
oh well u dwarf anyway
ionic fern
We got 2 Evokers tho and i'm a dwarf.
shell mortar
Just live 4Head
jagged pier
but usually we kill the first dragon just after / at the end of tantrum
so i only ever really got 1 double bleed
and i was dwarfing it anyway
asking for evokers later
when running or somthing
shell mortar
Also I'll chime in on the aoe opener talk, defo TR before TC
ionic fern
but usually we kill the first dragon just after / at the end of tantrum
Fast af.
ionic fern
Extending Rasz?
fiery pendant
I've gotten multiple doubles. 😦
Same, experiencing this and just dying to it
So perhaps the first dragon is dying too slowly
astral crystal
Tips for living the double dragon add packs on diurna mythic? I have an evoker f...
I have shield wall and demo for that, that’s also my rallying, have a healer CD you and an evoker remove the dot as well
fiery pendant
do you guys pick it up and run it to second adds immediately?
ionic fern
do you guys pick it up and run it to second adds immediately?
Roughly ya.
fiery pendant
Wondering if perhaps running is why it dies a bit slow
jagged pier
u have to run
ionic fern
Chill there for like..5-7s and then move.
jagged pier
u dont have the time to kill it
ionic fern
That's what i did atleast.
fiery pendant
Yeah otherwise you don’t get there in time
Yeah
Just need to tell everyone to focus it a bit more and use cds appropriately after then, hopefully no more than 1 double stack bleed but send shield wall on a second perhaps
Ok
astral crystal
Ppl should be focusing dragons there anyway
ionic fern
Just tell them to nuke down the low HP drake first.
astral crystal
Oh yeah prog for that part of the fight is figuring out how to manage dps CDs and externals on tank
fiery pendant
Found myself getting clapped by the very first pack too, sometimes was getting to 8 stacks of the debuff
graceful cobalt
hi have questions for Trinkets
fiery pendant
Unless I parried a lot
astral crystal
Most dangerous packs are the first one, double dragon, and the pack where there’s two jolt casters and one spawn late
ionic fern
Found myself getting clapped by the very first pack too, sometimes was getting t...
I'm getting constantly 9.
😂
jagged pier
I'm getting constantly 9.
i mean thats about right tbh
graceful cobalt
i got scale ( give me a shield 408) hoof (415) inca 395 ( Box from Akadem on (398) wich should i use for M+
fiery pendant
I’m playing orc too, can’t even dwarf it
jagged pier
Recraft all my haste vers gear to crit vers
no it would be haste crit
we dont care about vers
ionic fern
Just SW first pack
SW double drake
And then after that it's mostly free until 2nd phase.
jagged pier
dwarf is huge yer as well as u can dwarf the root
on P2
with the horrible over lap
fiery pendant
no it would be haste crit
?? What really?
jagged pier
yes
fiery pendant
Shiet, I’ve had haste vers on all tier balls
jagged pier
like as we've said for like the last 3 expansions
we dont vare about vers
in any shape or form
haste is more DR
and so is crit
jagged pier
well its not really a fuck up
ionic fern
Bah, that’s an irritating fuckup
Lets be honest, it won't make or break anything.
fiery pendant
Nah but, if I even luck a few extra parries that will be huge
jagged pier
top prots on Io have like 10% vers
ionic fern
Wait..WAIT..you want to tell me you don't keep an eye on your secondary stats ?!?!?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU SURVIVE THEN?
jagged pier
:/
ionic fern
Everyone knows secondary stats > playing the class correctly.
jagged pier
ionic fern
jagged pier
😂
ionic fern
"But Jakey, what if i have 100% vers, then i dont need to play the class correctly!!"
warm plinth
I believe I calculated it and unless you have 13.63% vers EXACTLY, you can't survive in keys.
Any more or less, and you die.
jagged pier
I believe I calculated it and unless you have 13.63% vers **EXACTLY**, you can't...
see u say that as a joke but some legit tried to convince us prot needed 25% vers to do 20s at the start of the expansion when i was doing them fine with 5%
he did also think that 25% vers was 25% DR i believe
median tulip
It's still good to have some Vers; same goes for Mastery
jagged pier
well yer we never said have 0% vers
0% mastery would suck
same as any other stat
but a certain % vers to do anything
is just a wrong
median tulip
My stats tend towards a ratio of 3:2:1:1 H:C:V:M and that generally feels comfortable. But like half of my Vers is the Eranog ring
jagged pier
same
median tulip
And then you get a bit on Tier
sudden fractal
I am trying to find the website that listed simple tank notes for m+. It's not tanknotes, but another that i cant for the life of me remember or find
blazing condor
youd need 200% vers tho
craggy pilot
youd need 200% vers tho
on it bud
modest grove
I am trying to find the website that listed simple tank notes for m+. It's not t...
Im interested too
ripe dock
Shield bros is it me or when raiding wars seam to do the last random damagee?
potent gulch
Tips for living the double dragon add packs on diurna mythic? I have an evoker f...
use rally, sw and ask external when sw over (better not evokers one or you'll get smashed when it starts doing dmg with bleed).
and dispel the last bleed instant.
Thats all.
ripe dock
Also what can I do to up my damage in mythic raiding tanking
potent gulch
Also what can I do to up my damage in mythic raiding tanking
smash buttons harder.
ripe dock
smash buttons harder.
Burh
potent gulch
and i literately mean it. you do more dmg the more rage you gen and spend
paper nexus
I feel like I do so much damage as a tank warrior compared to other tanks
potent gulch
and spend big hit with sheild slam.
ripe dock
I'm at 99.70 %active time
potent gulch
it makes juicy crits for 160+
paper nexus
I think it's a vers diff
ripe dock
Is it just a gearing issue with low crit ?
jagged pier
no
paper nexus
I think you need like90% vers
limpid anchor
Is it just a gearing issue with low crit ?
Low vers
jagged pier
it will be a play issue
ripe dock
I'm at 20%
paper nexus
(I'm joking Jakey)
jagged pier
yes but a lot of ppl wont take it as sarcasm
limpid anchor
@ripe dock without logs no one can tell you why you suck
potent gulch
i can't parse dathea 😭
ripe dock
Err I don't suck I just wanna do more damage lol
limpid anchor
I can’t parse council
limpid anchor
Err I don't suck I just wanna do more damage lol
If you are already at a 99% parse you can’t do much more dmg
If you aren’t, you kinda suck
Or Team sucks
ionic fern
If you are already at a 99% parse you can’t do much more dmg
He's at "99.7" ACTIVE time.
Which means nothing.
limpid anchor
Why not 100%? Huh?
potent gulch
potent gulch
If you aren’t, you kinda suck
you hurt me
limpid anchor
Good
potent gulch
😭
limpid anchor
My mythic logs are trash as well
We don’t have a single clean kill so far, big struggle :(
jagged pier
99. Active time
that literally means nothing
ionic fern
Same.
potent gulch
My mythic logs are trash as well
if i parse dathea i can get to 98%.
but its not possible
limpid anchor
But 98 is not 99 
limpid anchor
Might realy need to start checking logs so my dps improves
sudden fractal
Im interested too
I ended up finding it
https://tanknotes.deno.dev/
limpid anchor
@ionic fern is half your raid dead on every kill?
ionic fern
Unfortunately not.
limpid anchor
Unfortunately?
ripe dock
<@238357283996696576> is half your raid dead on every kill?
Christ you sound insufferable to play with
limpid anchor
What
It’s a genuine question
Because mine is and idk if my parse would be higher if we kill@the boss bit quicker :(
ionic fern
If my raid would be dead i could parse on adds more.
limpid anchor
:(
fiery pendant
use rally, sw and ask external when sw over (better not evokers one or you'll ge...
Thanks
potent gulch
sick sentinel
the view from top is great, but it's sure lonely, and you inevitably/unwillingly look down on everyone around you
thats my opinion on 97/98/99/100 parsing
undone verge
I have one more chance to parse before we extend for brood
ionic fern
undone verge
If we could just have a clean council kill I could boost this above a 95
jagged pier
I have one more chance to parse before we extend for brood
dont worry man ive done a lot of reclearing and my parses are dogshit because i never had the right stuff and everyone in my raid are dps whores so adds die literally in seconds
XD
timber terrace
You shouldn't care about parsing you should just look at your logs and see what you can improve on and you'll naturally get good parses
undone verge
What else am I supposed to care about on wipe 110 of Dathea prog?
jagged pier
u can get 80 rolling your face accross your keyboard
good parses are very easy to get
u actually need the correct opportunity and knowledge and pieces (trinkets) to get top logs
undone verge
My 398 grieftorch is still pissing me off
timber terrace
I missed rank 1 on terros by 1k dps with no windfury like 2 weeks ago
limpid anchor
You shouldn't care about parsing you should just look at your logs and see what ...
That’s not a healthy mindset
fresh dragon
hello. cant find anwer in FAQ so i ask here. LAriat best gems? i was thinking about doing:
1 x Primary stats + haste
2 x haste + versa
timber terrace
It's way healthier to try to fix your play than to chase for parses first
urban bane
Those aren't really mutually exclusive, are they?
sick sentinel
the truth about yogi and logging is
i didn't log alot, because then blame can accurately be placed on me, and that just no comfortable, and also it was a bit fiddlly to do, its easy to do now, but still struggle to understand what to do with log after i have it besides look at SB time, blocked hits, rage wasted, deaths.
when i don't log, i can just make up excuse to certain point,
uneven mason
Those aren't really mutually exclusive, are they?
Since performing our DPS priority generally results in better survival.
undone verge
I missed rank 1 on terros by 1k dps with no windfury like 2 weeks ago <:deadge:9...
Terros is my bane, can’t seem to get my dps above 47k don’t know why
jagged pier
u aint pressing SS or execute enough
or like our man mokoo
pressing revenge too much
jagged pier
yer as i said not pressing SS enough
well not pressing anything enough
and your no tplaying ITF in raid
:/
timber terrace
pressing revenge too much
I know I do that but that's legit muscle memory from when revenge was a builder and that probably won't go away anytime soon
undone verge
and your no tplaying ITF in raid
This was the raid night I dropped SS for like one second and got one shot so I swapped back to Itf as kinda a fuck it just gonna kill boss
jagged pier
i mean its like way bad tho yer
undone verge
Heavy rep*
jagged pier
like i had half the casts the revenge cast as u
and did more damage mokoo
like i get avatar back like 30 seconds ealier
jagged pier
This was the raid night I dropped SS for like one second and got one shot so I s...
but if u play correctly u have SB up for when your tanking with ITF
u have enough with the talents yu have
ED and bulwark is enough
undone verge
I think I cap Shieldblock as a bad habit from SL where we had free 100% uptime with reprisal
timber terrace
Terros doesn't do a lot of dam the most dangerous damage is legit the pillar explosions when you have stacks
undone verge
Yeah, I haven’t really gotten to do Terros in the last week the problem, I’ll have to start running Itf, heavy rep is a crutch, and prob worse tbh
jagged pier
well my point was your blaming a death on not having SB up and saying it was talents where its play thats the issue
u were probably sending SB when not tanking
and not thinking about actually needing it
undone verge
I mean I always send it for uptime cause it buffs SS dmg
Which is stupid, I hate that interaction
jagged pier
right thats fine but thats not what u do
and it is what u do
u do send it when not tanking
timber terrace
Don't complain too much not that long ago shield block was pmuch capped at 50% uptime
jagged pier
but u need to have 2 charges back for when u do tank
this is where giving us a tone for free has created complacency in the class like managing your SB charges because we needed the block time to tank for like the past expansions since forever has always been a thing
but ill be honest i dont even think about SB anymore
its not even a thought in my head
but if they nerfs one or 2 talents
everyone is gunna complain and cry cause they gunna have to manage SB again
which is why ive always said dont send both charges
straight away
think about when and where to use SB
if the boss is cast or u need to move out dont use it
your wasting up time
etc etc
undone verge
Side note we finally killed Dathea
That was fun
Now we get to rekill her next week
undone verge
We’re gonna reclear till brood then extend I’m told
timber terrace
I don't really wanna play prot warrior next tier tbh I don't really like how little agency you have over your survivability compared to other tanks, having to call shit like "heal me" in voice doesn't feel great
jagged pier
bye then
timber terrace
undone verge
My problem with my tanking probably just stems from the fact that I’ve always only done heroic or first few mythic bosses so I never really reached a point where my survivability was an issue enough to step back and figure out what I do wrong
Idk maybe I’m over analyzing it and I’m just bad
timber terrace
Tank survivability is rarely an issue and you can often fix it with externals or healers paying more attention but I don't like how in some situations you're just sitting at dangerous hp waiting to get healed or have to pot/hs when other tanks would just selfheal through, maybe I've just been too spoiled playing brew and dk
undone verge
Just don’t reach a dangerous hp 4head
jagged pier
but the whole point of this class is u ither dont go as low as the other tanks by a far margin/ u dont take enough damage so kill u when your low
and u heal back up through IP
or IV
or both
like a big part of my sludge kill was sitting at like sub 30% most of the time
i was perfectly fine
cause block
slim dove
hAhAA deathstrike go BrRR
undone verge
BDK is like stupid easy tbh
undone verge
Healing bdk as any healer is a snooze
timber terrace
blood dk was fun in sotfo but now it's back to deathstrike simulator again i guess
slim dove
prot pal same thing
undone verge
BDK was fun in sepulcher because you had the surv of a prot warrior and the healing of a bdk
They were unkillable
slim dove
also cuz gavel
timber terrace
minmaxing the tier set was all the fun
slim dove
was fun
undone verge
100% DRW was actually nutty
But like correct me if I’m wrong, bdk seems like you just heartstrike and bonestrike to avoid capping runes, tombstone to avoid capping bone shield, deathstrike to avoid capping runic power, and blood boil to avoid capping charges
sick sentinel
like i have said multiple times
undone verge
Like there’s no thought
uneven ice
83% blocked hits is ok?
sick sentinel
i was good friend with BDK main all of BFA and start of DF
they are good, but they are wheelchair, and they get caught with "pants down" for mechanics and no CD up
other than that, its just, ret paladin, and healer has to pay attention to its bar.... sometimes?
minor helm
they added a whole class to solve the no mobility problem
sick sentinel
demon huntar?
minor helm
Dragon
sick sentinel
you know,, 99% of the reason i won't play dk is cuz no charge/leap on a short CD
MS is nice, but i still have to press that button and begin to hold W...... in the correct direction so i don't geomotry fuck my self against a wall and get stomped by odyn still
so, thats story of why i don't DK, also im too dumb to play UH
grizzled hinge
I felt super slow as BDK, but 2 death's advance and engineering nitro boost feels a lot better
sick sentinel
you don't fuck your self with geomtry problems on warrior cuz its intervene/charge worked, or i have leaper
merry trout
hey, for spell block do i need to have shield block up?
undone verge
no
merry trout
ok, does it make me immune to all spells or how does it work?
sick sentinel
no, but you will only be at base buffed block % on character sheet
undone verge
Like spell reflect but without the reflect part
sick sentinel
you still must be infront of target, un-cc'd
sick sentinel
spell primarily targeted at you (a snow/fire/lightning ball)
nope, if you get sleeped and anything that would stop a melee from being blocked, same thing for spell
merry trout
ahh
undone verge
if i get cc'ed, block doesnt work huh?
Can’t block while stunned, incapped, feared, slept, disarmed, or just not facing the target
Which you will notice
Because you’ll probably be dead
sick sentinel
nothing disarms in current m+ far as im aware
merry trout
in AA, the small adds spawned by tree guy, they do this insane dmg atk on your right? does spell reflect or block work on them?
sick sentinel
that would be quite some cancer mechanci
undone verge
I just meant in general cause pvp
merry trout
or is that physical?
plush tendon
they apply a stacking dot
undone verge
in AA, the small adds spawned by tree guy, they do this insane dmg atk on your r...
The dmg they do is from the bleed, you need a healer who can dispell it and you can also take the bleed cleanse
Whatever it’s called
merry trout
did we have a spell like that? 😮
sick sentinel
the big flowers in AA tree room, the elite ones, they do green circles that disorient you (alot like a stun or fear, you waddle around and cant do fuck all and you lose all aggro temporarily
i don't know what you mean disarms u there
plush tendon
The dmg they do is from the bleed, you need a healer who can dispell it and you ...
its a poison, not a bleed
undone verge
did we have a spell like that? 😮
Bitter immunity
plush tendon
so bitter immunity would work
but also, healer should have something
or a monk/paladin
undone verge
Idk what it is I just know bitter immunity works
sick sentinel
yeah, its the same effect as drinking a kyrian potions but it doesn't take spot in your bag, doesn't run out, don't have to call owl each 3 times
undone verge
The wall also used to be called the wall and was 2 charges+ 20% DR to your entire party when you used SW
Now that would have been fun
plush tendon
yea, that wouldve been busted
and we'd probably take the Avatar/SW talent in the class tree over the Avatar Thunderclap one
undone verge
Just put all the dps that don’t know what a defensive cooldown is in your party and SW during big dam like rasz bombs
lusty tiger
The wall also used to be called the wall and was 2 charges+ 20% DR to your entir...
S2 tierset inc
plush tendon
I was thinking Eye of the Storm in Halls
undone verge
I’d totally be down for that
plush tendon
but that works to
hell, last boss RLP
just a blanket 20% DR for the whole party
📈
sick sentinel
bitter immunity in my eyes, should work, for diseases, poisions, sleep, sheep, sap and then it has a very high chance not 100% to remove magic and curses
sick sentinel
cuz its like, natural immunities and so warrior can attempt in vain to remove them and maybe if hes lucky, it works
plush tendon
amber siren
hey, for spell block do i need to have shield block up?
Yes you do, if you don't have shield block up you are not guaranteeing the 100% block chance
sick sentinel
cuz like warrior doesn't understand magic shit, so he would he know how to get rid of it? thus just the chance
ionic plank
i get the RP aspect but that would be awful to use
sick sentinel
i think more variance on what can happen and nothing is for certain is more entertaining
ionic plank
basically press this and there's a chance it literally does nothing
plush tendon
yea, I just care about in practice how it would feel; and with some nasty bleeds/dots in the game like 2 boss RLP, 3rd boss ToJS, and bird boi in AA, a way to deal with one set of bleeds/debuff would be giga siq
sick sentinel
you just send it PRAYING it works plz god hear my prayers and get rid of this curse
vivid mirage
Hey, sorry if this has an answer somewhere already but when playing prot warrior is there any logic/value in taking speed enchants over leech? Sometimes I feel like some of these casts you can outrange are so fast that some extra speed would help me get away when my leap is down but taking speed over leech feels a bit wrong even if its just a tertiary...
plush tendon
Hey, sorry if this has an answer somewhere already but when playing prot warrior...
take leech
do big damage
do big healing
win win
deal with spells with Reflect, Spell Block, or stops
vivid mirage
Yeah but you can't just sit there eating dark claws for example and those go off fast asf but they can be outranged.
plush tendon
Yeah but you can't just sit there eating dark claws for example and those go off...
you can actually with Spell Block
at least for 20 seconds
jagged pier
i mean u can if u play correctly
jagged pier
and out ranging darkclaw only causes it to recast the moment your in range again
vivid mirage
Okay, so never take speed and just react faster and more stops.
undone verge
Could shockwave to line up casts then reflect one set, spell block another, SW the third
sick sentinel
one problem i have in wow with stuns is im cow man, so i have SC, TB, SW, and Cow Stomp
plush tendon
after that its mostly dead and then you do a bit of back step kitting
to let DPS finish it off
round pendant
Imo cow stomp needs the cast time removed
slim dove
imo no
sick sentinel
so, thats 4 stuns, 2 are aoe stuns, it's easy for me to accidently over lap
round pendant
why not
sick sentinel
and then we used all 3 stuns DR's, he cant be stunned, but his only cast is supposed to be countered by stun or some other hard CC,..... gg
plush tendon
^ booooo
sick sentinel
we playted ourself
plush tendon
me like my arcane torrent
tall marsh
Does any1 here have a really really pug friendly route for AV20? I've noticed some big discrepancy between the first pull (6 lashers 1 tree) where it either wipes the group or group handles it well 100%
plush tendon
sick sentinel
thing about cow stomp is its only a 0.5 second cast
so its extremely unlikely you take dmg during it
plush tendon
Does any1 here have a really really pug friendly route for AV20? I've notice...
depends; there are a number of ways you can pull that dungeon
and nothing you do is necessarily pug friendly XD
tall marsh
I'm noticing that.. I just want something that has the highest success rate for AV20..
sick sentinel
bull rush on highmountain DK is goated
huge bully CC plays for dungeons you could do,
plush tendon
I'm noticing that.. I just want something that has the highest success rate for ...
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This one might work well; lust first pack
and then after 2nd boss, walk out the door you came, go to the left and follow the ledge so you are right above the two Dracthyr bois before 3rd and jump down
this tends to be a favorite now for pugs from what Ive seen; though a normal W route going through frogs is also viable (but DPS complain so much about them)
also, dont be afraid to pull things separately if you arent comfortable with the damage intake; AV tends to be a dungeon where there is a lot of pressure on the tank to not die and there are quite a bit of frontals/incoming damage on the tank without proper stops
jagged pier
or just press W
plush tendon
^ this also works
round pendant
Was doing a +2 HoV with a bunch of new players today
Killed Hyrja and they go "damn I love having a good tank"
I proceeded to pull the entire hall + a sentinel and everyone kept dying while the mobs kept healing
tall marsh
OK Augusto ill check it out when i get home.. I like the W route too but i hate how group wipes to the first pull
plush tendon
OK Augusto ill check it out when i get home.. I like the W route too but i hate ...
getting the first pull down is giga awesome
solemn current
OK Augusto ill check it out when i get home.. I like the W route too but i hate ...
I’m assuming you mean the 6 lashers and tree pull not the furies plus lashers pull? Honestly with lust if people are wiping to it then it’s probably good the group showed you that it wasn’t worth spending any further time in the dungeon with them. In regular pugs I tend to remind them to line of sight the doorway so the first 3 lashers don’t free cast on them and instead group up but that should be all that’s needed. Rest is just stops/interrupts and burn.
plush tendon
6 lashers+3 furys: just rotate Ds
use shockwave and other stops
and people should be using their stops
its a fun pull
timber wasp
So is the good part of Blazebinder's Hoof the strength increase? The burnout wave seems to do nothing and its hard to time
tall marsh
Arbiter you're right haha.. last night we wiped to 6 lashers 1 tree after all my stops... Where as on Sat night it was smooth sailing.. Do ppl lust here?
plush tendon
and if they cant do it, well at least you know they cant be trusted
slim dove
its a litmus test for your group
wipe on first pack? leave
go again
yes lust first pack with 6 lashers + 3 furies
solemn current
No group that’s had problems with that pull had made the rest of the dungeon any easier lol. Ironically though since doing no frog routes even with that same 6 lasher plus tree pull as the second pull people are still more likely to handle it better. Probably because they blew their load on first pack so they can worry more about stops and less about ram
But yea in fort week regardless of the route you do you should lust the first pack. You can save for boss on tyran week
plush tendon
IMO, the big trees are worse then the Furys
Really?
first boss is kind of a joke; we always just lust the first pull
get a second lust on more trash and 3rd on 2nd boss
or 2nd lust on 2nd boss; kind of depends on what route we doin
solemn current
You can do either. I also always lust first pack, but I wouldn’t consider the first boss a joke since a lot can go wrong the more pillars that spawn on tyran, but I’m just saying it’s optional vs fort you always lust first pack because you never shouldn’t.
feral nebula
So is the good part of Blazebinder's Hoof the strength increase? The burnout wav...
Would like to hear some opinions on that aswell... i Timed some keys with WIndscarwhetstone 412 ilvl and Blazebinders 418 ilvl and while Windscar made almost 6% overall dmg, the hoof made 1,5%, idk if the strength increase catches up with this
plush tendon
personally, Id go whetstone>Blazehoof
and yea, the strength increase on Blazehoof is the value on that trinket
amber siren
the mainstat is the important part
feral nebula
Hoof just feels so damn unsatisfying
solemn current
Screw whetstone. Just go boon and have best of both worlds.
feral nebula
Or go both with 20 sec delay and do big pulls 😄
feral nebula
here we go haha
solemn current
Boon is life. Need a mythic one though. My guild isn’t reclearing until raz is dead though so I can’t kill dathea for vault loot.
plush tendon
I also like boon in Court when I pull all the little wormies in that Courtyard right before the bridge to first boss
big "ethical" dam
solemn current
You’re a mad man those are the 2 dungeons I ended up just not bringing boon to anymore LOL. Too many instances of having to hold it due to mechanics and felt like it was doing too little as a result.
lilac jay
Boon (I have 408 version) is fun but if u don’t use it on CD my 415 trampling hoofs isn’t that far away and gives more strength. And most dungeons on high level it’s kinda risky
plush tendon
I wouldnt on WAr
but DK has purg
and stun immunity
so if I get hit by something.... im not dead yet
solemn current
Ah true. Love it in most of the other dungeons though
solemn current
Boon (I have 408 version) is fun but if u don’t use it on CD my 415 trampling ho...
I don’t use it on CD but hooves still can’t touch it. Does like 6% of my damage even if holding for 1-2 minutes at a time because I rarely use it on bosses unless it’s tyran and I know I’ll get another use on trash.
plush tendon
if you can pull like a mad lad and get it used close enough on CD, boon is stonks
especially if there arent puddles on the ground or frontals you cant interrupt
solemn current
Ye I’m selective about where I use it because certain mobs make it risky, but it’s so good that I can use it that way because I know there isn’t a single strength trinket that can do more than that even when used on cooldown. It would do more if I risked it more often, but it’s a little harder to explain to pugs that I bricked their key for the biscuit lol.
plush tendon
plush tendon
slim dove
First triple pull HoV bubble taunt Boon
i experienced this recently
insane, every dps got to just target dummy everything, prevoker healed twice and ended the pull at 170k dps
slim dove
its sketch with bad dps on war
you can leap from breathe and its zzz
but dps lose giga uptime usually
dusky canopy
insane, every dps got to just target dummy everything, prevoker healed twice and...
170k prevoker
slim dove
prevoker dps is busted sir
oak echo
does anyone know if there's a way to avoid the leap from the cats in COS? or in a high key is it basically guaranteed that someone dies if they're not stun locked until they die
verbal flax
does anyone know if there's a way to avoid the leap from the cats in COS? or in ...
cc one in the beginning so the leaps are desync. that gives ur healer time to react
still sequoia
is new pala rework taking over prot warrior?
jagged pier
they havent even got it yet and they are
as me and nome kept saying palain was really strong just slept on
slim dove
is new pala rework taking over prot warrior?
already are
as jakey is saying
just took time for people to pick up on them
cinder storm
Palas will be really strong in bracken and halls of infusion
sick sentinel
bursting im not woried about, grevious tyranical......................
man, i dunno aboiut resubb any time soon
birdo boss academy immediately comes to mind
sick sentinel
yeah, if you arent dark iron with preist in group and dragon with remove bleed, high AA is going to be hell next week
lots of big pulls that will trigger big burstings, and bird will become a giant steel wall, probably vex, will all suck
cinder storm
It's just unnecessary extra healing on dungeons where the healing check is already high
Best combo would be pala tank for wog or whatever they do, priest for obvious reasons, shammy for AG, feral or dudu for nature's vigil
sick sentinel
asmon complains about mythic plus "oh you pull a mob and each mob has 4 different abilities and its hard to tell whats going on", like, yes, and no, both right and wrong, Part 1: is "each mob does 4 differnt things", yeah, and if you pull 5 total mobs, 3 does abc spell set, other 2 does xyz spells, well, i learned in mdi recently like, frontals, only 1 frontal can happen at time, saw it in like cos or somethin. Part 2: like, bro, you got dbm and it says it in 4 different places and the monster is doing a voice emote dbm is going off and hes glowing bluie and waving his arms with a cast bar... and can't figure it out... like come'on you know
cinder storm
Well, asmon has always expressed disdain for m+, and he's more on the casual andy persona type
vivid abyss
guys since i am learning this still can u tell me, which dungeons u never take spell block??
cinder storm
guys since i am learning this still can u tell me, which dungeons u never take s...
It's easier to ask "where do I need spell block"
vivid abyss
well TJS is where u need spell block for sure
that I am sure 😄 i guess it has nice value in AA?
cinder storm
But AV is good for rocks, second and last boss, TJS, Ruby, NO on any 22+ key specially if you run without soothes like me
vivid abyss
and SBG for the first undeads?