protection

[naive panther]

too many prot warriors, can't get any rank cause no invites to keys I've already timed even

[scenic path]

For trinkets from m+ wowhead suggests blazebinder and ruby whelp shell, that still accurate?

[deep spruce]

Whetstone is the dungeon trinket u want

[coarse flower]

so is the idea to just send torch first then send the rest of my cds?

on raid bosses

[round pendant]

Is avoidance a good stat?

[hidden ether]

Question is high AA tyrannical only possible with an evoker?

[hidden ether]

I mean it’s free budget but I would rather have leach or even speed

[clear plaza]

is there a priority list for crafted 418 gear?

[round pendant]

😢

I will never get a 99 parse

[tepid raptor]

Man

TJS 3rd boss +21 feels like BL is a must

[clear plaza]

how much better is that than strike twice?

[rain light]

would pick strike twice over it if same or higher ilvl

[lavish oracle]

Seems like they're running a lot of Defender's Aegis over Impenetrable Wall in the MDI

what's the rationale there, do we think

[round pendant]

why is a 418 prot warrior doing 20k less dps than me at 408

[sick sentinel]

he's not hitting his buttons

[clear plaza]

would a 418 primal molten be that big of an upgrade over a 415 strike twice?

[rain light]

no

[lavish oracle]

legitimately, I've been in so many pugs where the other tank is just not pressing their buttons

[rain light]

ill prob switch to strike twice, as i have a ton of haste

[uneven mason]

Because there's so many warriors who walk around without pressing buttons

[lusty grotto]

@naive panther

[naive panther]

hello lol

[lusty grotto]

welcome to my ragtag band of dumbasses

[naive panther]

hopefully i don't embarrass myself as arms, but last key went ok...

[lusty grotto]

arms good

[rain light]

do they call it arms warrior cause you hit stuff with your arms

[slim dove]

arms huge.

[daring marlin]

arms owns

[marsh axle]

hello, at what point would you be able to replace your lariat? e.g. if i have a 405 lariat vs a 411 Chain of Scorched Bones, does the proc make up for the ilevel difference?

[deep spruce]

Upgrade the lariat bro

[slim dove]

sim question.

[marsh axle]

yeah simmed it, came up with the chain as a better option

reinforce -> yep, farming em now

[round pendant]

Lmao grieftorch pads parses so much

[grave flower]

Nothing wrong with padded parses

[vestal linden]

so with the ruby whelp trink, which proc are we training for? the haste one?

[round pendant]

single target

man I just can't parse well on council

[steel mauve]

idk if i would consider it padding if it helps kill stuff faster and its non-inefficient damage done

[round pendant]

tbf on heroic I feel like you can just yolo it and alternate tanking both bosses

I got 89

because someone pozzed literally EVERYONE

literally griefed my parse

parsed 97 on dathea tho

so that's nice

[round pendant]

I can't parse well on brood either

but I only do boss tank, prob why?

89 on council (I blame the griefer) and 83 on brood

[undone verge]

brood is the bane of my existence, I cant parse on it

It’s the exact same thing as lords of dread

[round pendant]

I guess an 83 parse while doing boss + 3rd eggs is decent

[undone verge]

pain

[round pendant]

oh dear

I can't get a 99 parse

well, I can for my ilvl

lmao

408 ilvl so maybe I shouldn't expect to get 99s

[undone verge]

heroic or normal the real question tho

[round pendant]

Heroic

[undone verge]

honestly depends more on trinkets than a few ilvl I feel

what trinkets you run

[round pendant]

grief whetstone

[undone verge]

I need to get the icon tbh, torch is really annoying to use

[round pendant]

I never really have trouble using it

I just tank a melee hit or two it's fine

[undone verge]

problem is you arent doing anything in that 2 second window, as well as it being really good depends on ppl dying which is kinda worthless on prog bosses

[round pendant]

It still does good damage on cd tho

[frank dust]

is spellblock good in halls

[undone verge]

spellblock is pretty much always good

[round pendant]

It's alright in HoV, good in TJS

[frank dust]

ok

spell block it is then

i was gonna run tough as nails but i dont want to die during the first pull of the dungeon

[cloud umbra]

You can range the dragon breath

[frank dust]

ik but i still dont want to die

im not sure if most of that pack has blockable spelsl tho

[cloud umbra]

Like none of it except the breath

[frank dust]

ok so

maybe not spellblock ig

[inner rock]

wait you can't bolster bosses anymore?

[cloud umbra]

The only thing is Hyrja but you really don’t need it for her either . Defensive stance plus rotating cds

[frank dust]

dstance or bstance for that first pull?

[cloud umbra]

I do b stance myself cause i can double charge to pick up packs to build rage

This week being tyrannical usually don’t even range the beam, just reflect

[static owl]

What defense u guys use for 3rd Boss tjs and 2nd Boss rlp tankbuster?

[cloud umbra]

I think there is a sample in the pins

[static owl]

You are right , thank you

[queen canopy]

the spreadsheet says you can spellblock Radiant Tempest on Odyn but

seems to be fake news

anyone know?

I wiped to it just now and it was very awkward lol

[toxic pewter]

Uhh never stand in that circle… like ever..

[sick sentinel]

the stomp always comes after the add, and you can literal W at base MS out with about 1-2 globals remaining

you also have leap, and charge the add, if the add isn't in a shit spot

don't use leap before that part if you have trouble, it will be up for every time he does it

[lusty tiger]

even if u did spellblock that doesn't guarantee you will survive lol

[cloud umbra]

It does so much damage if it’s spell blockabkle it’s probably still doesn’t come close to saving you

[slim dove]

can crit spell blocks for 100% dr 🙂

[noble stratus]

hey, abt to hit 70 -- what crafted items should i go for, aside from crafted ring + lariat?

[clear plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/1076641128847261726/image.png

[noble stratus]

oh shit nice

ty

was wondering if that was on wowhead didnt see it lol

[coarse flower]

anyone have a battleshout weakaura that only prompts you for specs that actually need it (rather than the usual one that pops up for when some random caster dies and it shows up still)

[median skiff]

Is 415 Strike Twice better than 418 crafted sword? Just got one to drop and not sure

[noble stratus]

could sim it

[median skiff]

this is true, haven't simmed on my tank lmao my fault

[spark cedar]

That is 3 embelishments

[left beacon]

so for academy, I think i watched a video where you want to have 1 orb come on the third phase so u don't link mana bombs with fusion. Just want to clarify if thats a decent strat

[mighty valley]

it's just a suggestion list, the real crafting suggestions are 2 embellishments (pref belt for raid ring) and whatever slots you're failing to get ilvl upgrades on

[lament dragon]

anyone on prot warrior using fang adornments

or are you sticking to elemental lariat and unstable frostfire

[mighty valley]

i have lariat and frostfire but i don't think it would be awful to use fang over lariat

frostfire is the only clear winner and that's only with eranog ring

[sick sentinel]

did this just now, incase i ever want to go blood elf, of all the heritage armor sets, this one is easily one of top 3

[undone verge]

whats our max crit we want? im at 4500 rn wonder if I should start stacking haste/verse

with buffs and all

[slim dove]

no max, DR happens after 30% from rating

haste/crit all the way to the moon baby.

[turbid plaza]

blizz fix hyrja swap?

[sick sentinel]

no

it was performed successfully today mdi

[warm plinth]

why are you stacking crit in the first place? 🤔

[sick sentinel]

i dunno how it works

[slim dove]

mdi is a diff realm and based on its own patch. they could hotfix something today and it wont affect mdi unless its something gamebreaking, then theyd likely push it to mdi realm after it has a day to be played on regular servers incase the fix broke something else.

[sick sentinel]

does it truly break the game?

[slim dove]

Im saying if the fix breaks something.

And yes, at a certain point the only way to do Hyrja on a certain key level will be to do the swap.

[undone verge]

damage

alr so im at 32, so ill start going haste verse then

could also swap some crit gems to haste

[warm plinth]

But like...you don't stack stats other than haste as prot warrior.

[round pendant]

Love wiping on raz hc just cause I wanna fix my parse on my wcl profile

for 3 hours

[slim dove]

why spend 3 hours on h raz

[round pendant]

friend wants to kill it

plus I want to get a better parse on it

but man it's such a miserable experience every time

[undone verge]

crit/haste

29% haste 32% crit

[round pendant]

aight I give up on hc raz

[round pendant]

p2 ye

[wooden widget]

hunger of the pack a decent trinky to pair with windscar?

also playing arms

deciding where first to spend valor

[wary pasture]

Finally got Blazebinder's hoof, should i macro it into something to just set and forget it?

[round pendant]

It doesn't really line up with anything tbh

just bind it and use it

[wary pasture]

ight

[wide cosmos]

Hi guys 411 Hunger of the Pack(from vault) vs 402 Decoration of Flame (equipped) other choices are not worth or have better equipped items

also Hunger of the Pack is the highest ilvl on trinket slot other trinket is 405 Ruby

[scenic mural]

Would sim it. But off the jump@i would def usenit over decoration, mediocre especially for us

[last mason]

what boss route do u guys do in algethar this week

[mighty valley]

these days i go vex - crawth - tree

but if i was pugging i might go tree first since it still seems to be the boss some people just don't know how to do

and best to know that asap lol

[round pendant]

I wonder if hoof is better for m+ than whetstone

🤔

[mighty valley]

what has made you think this

[round pendant]

whetstone: mastery + single target
hoof: haste and strength

[mighty valley]

reread whetstone, it is absolutely not single target

[scenic mural]

It actually sims very well single target, but yeah aoe as well

[mighty valley]

yep! all around busted

[scenic mural]

If only it existed

[wicked oriole]

what should i train the Ruby Whelp too

singel target?

single

[urban portal]

it is single target

the tooltip is lying to you

they made it split years ago

and then never updated the tooltip

[sterile bough]

for each target hit it deals additional 15% dmg up to 5

and it deals split damage

so its good on both

[round pendant]

Oh that makes it not a complete waste to use then

[urban portal]

its "fine" on AOE

strength is a bigger increase

trinkets in AOE goes no-split>stats>split>pure ST

there are obviously nuances

but thats generally how it works

[wooden widget]

Do I need double wall for hyrja?

Or is spell reflect and def stance enough?

[round pendant]

what do I do about lasher toxin in AA?

I shockwaved all the lashers, they took forever to die, I get 40 stacks, die

[lofty widget]

get dispelled

[round pendant]

had two priests

neither dispelled me

[amber siren]

priests can't do poison

[round pendant]

sick, great game

[lofty widget]

can shockwave yeah, they usually just blow up tho so you can live it with wall+IP spamming (infinite rage since 1 milion mobs are up)

[amber siren]

shouldn't need aegis

[scenic mural]

i would say spell reflect and d stance is not enough, but u have other cds that u dont need double wall

unless you tend to overuse

[lofty widget]

double wall is less overall SWs anyway, so it's worse on hyrja

[frank dust]

R prot warriors getting nerfed anytime soon

[round pendant]

my god

wiped on odyn at 35 minutes

guy just leaves

Hunter dies to the fuckin circle and has the audacity to insta leave

maybe it's out of embarrassment

[tiny bobcat]

is it worth crafting the belt even if i don't have the fire ring yet?

[round pendant]

It's not bad on its own

the ring just makes it better

[hidden ether]

But once they all die and you don’t have infinite rage anymore ☠️

[urban portal]

if you dont have the rings you may as well craft the vers bracers

[lament dragon]

are there any shield enchants now?

[lofty widget]

then debuff drops shortly after

[round pendant]

damn missed 18 AA by 2 minutes because we wiped on big bird twice

that boss is cracked

[hazy sluice]

Very undecided between ruby ST, blaze binder and trampling hoof trinket. Sims all the same kinda

I feel like ruby it is since prio single target is more important even tho I can't get the proc when I want. Any thoughts on this ?

[cinder storm]

Got whetstone finally on a cos 22+2

Big rip hov came out of it

[buoyant tangle]

whelp shell still feels very inconsistent for me

[dark lark]

Hi guys, was doing a Shadowmoon 22 and then I got nuked out of nowhere by the first boss. Any indicator for Deathspike?

[strong forum]

Boss gets a 3stack buff

[dark lark]

Should I be able to see it on their buff bar?

[strong forum]

Autoattacks will apply deathspike

Yes

You can reflect 1 stack back to the boss

You can parry/defensive CD others

But nothing else you can do

[dark lark]

Okay, I'll have to pay more attention to it, but thanks

[strong forum]

That boss is practically "be full HP" and Pop CDs and SR pretty much all the time

[civic holly]

does anyone have a weak aura for the jade strike amount from temple of jade 3rd boss?

[toxic kelp]

Does IP consume jade strike absorb?

I always have trouble on that boss

[plain turret]

Hi guys... does PRot Spell block with ofc active shield block work on Hyrja's Shield of light?

[rough egret]

Yes

[scenic mural]

spell block, spell reflect are really good on top of our usual demo shout and shield wall. last stand helps the absorb, ip does, iv, health pots etc

spell block can be up for 2 strikes as well

[spark mural]

Is this normal 540k Dragon Strike hit from 21+ AV Umbrelskul

[violet smelt]

did you have spell reflect up? cos its a chonky hit otherwise

[lone eagle]

You can technically SR every hit if you time it right

But the timing is fucky due to spell queuing

Just plan on SRing every other

Then use Shield Wall + Def or similar CDs for the alternate hits you don't reflect

And immediately IV as you eat the hit

[potent gulch]

Why prot warrior take spell block for M Rashageth?

[jagged pier]

U should always take spell block on raz

Regardless of difficulty

Not only does it stop jaws

Its blocks every tick of the beam in final phase

[potent elbow]

Where in logs can I find the CPM of skill usage?

[craggy pilot]

any other bosses where Spell Block is big, outside of Mythic?

[potent gulch]

Thanks

[jagged pier]

No

[jagged pier]

Casts tab

[round pendant]

what the fuck

well I'm never doing hc raz again

but that would have been nice to know

[merry trout]

do u guys use any wa like cooldown pulse to see shield block uptime?

[rough egret]

Yes

[strong forum]

Just a basic buff tracker yes

[merry trout]

ahh, could u guys pls share it? lookin for some sort of low opacity alert when my sb is off

[strong forum]

Oh that I don't have

[delicate bear]

Is devastator worth investing a point into?

[strong forum]

Yes

You're hard trolling if you don't play devastator

[limpid anchor]

Imagine not pressing devestate

Are you even a real prot war

[weary saddle]

u stand in green circle when ancient branch dies

[rough egret]

Best warriors plays with no talents

[weary saddle]

i lost interest in MDI when i discovered they are using special items not on live servers. explains the crazy mass pulls

its not skill its gear

[strong forum]

thats a take

they get like 1 weapon and a maybe diff trinket

its 99.9% the same exact gear we have

[weary saddle]

eg naowh was using forgestorm from neltarus.

[strong forum]

big whoop

lol

[rough egret]

What?

[strong forum]

forgestorm is hardly better than other 421s

[weary saddle]

forgestorm has some special aoe proc

[strong forum]

yeah but no strength

its bis, dont get me wrong

but it wont make you suddenly win at the game

[rough egret]

And he was using m0 version?

[strong forum]

no

all gear on ptr is scaled up to 415/418/421/424

[weary saddle]

no he was using 421 ilvl forgestorm

[rough egret]

Weird that they didnt locked it to current season gear

But

[strong forum]

it makes no diff

[rough egret]

Whatever

Yeah

[strong forum]

everybody has equal access to it on TR

[rough egret]

Yep

[weary saddle]

its not level playing field for us audience

[strong forum]

its not level playing field cuz they can just spam the key

and dont have to farm it

its not level playing field cuz they dont have tertiary procs on their gear

aka they cant roll leech or avoidance on gear

[tepid raptor]

I don't get it. Doing RLP 20 and 60% of the attempts we wipe at first boss even though i line up my cds really well. The healers are often pulling 50k hps, feels like its not enough on 1st?

[strong forum]

1st boss is extremely scripted

super easy to handle

boss opens with 4 frost bolts

then does hailstorm

[weary saddle]

im fine with melidrusa as long as i use spellblock

[strong forum]

then throws her aoe

[tepid raptor]

I spell block at first so i get it back for later

[strong forum]

then again does 3 frostbolts

you can reflect 1 frostbolt

you have SW available every minute

you have spellblock every 1.5minutes

[tepid raptor]

But I try to SW the chilling

[strong forum]

why

you SW when she frostbolts you

[tepid raptor]

so I dont get OS, im almost never topped

before that happens

[strong forum]

thats a bad healer then

if he doesnt top you

[tepid raptor]

last run he said he had to heal all the others 😛

[strong forum]

ofc he does

but that doesnt mean he should stop healing you

[rough egret]

After all my disaster runs in RLP i got into a group yesterday and we missed +2 chests by 3 seconds 🙂

Was happy

[merry trout]

hey, how in the world does titanic throw work? In the first room in RLP, near the golem patrol, i tried pulling those adds near eggs while the golem was in the back of the room but i ended up throwing to almost everything in the entire room, including the golem that was atleast 80 yards away -_-

[tepid raptor]

But you do the 1st spell block, 2nd u reflect 1 of bolts, then SW the other 3?

[strong forum]

no

dont spell block first

god no

dont do that

[tepid raptor]

You don't want it back for later?

[strong forum]

bro you go about it the whole wrong way

no wonder

you open with spell reflect + shield wall

cuz SW is a shorter CD

you have spell reflect for every time she starts her 3 frostbolts

so its like

[rough egret]

It makes sense to open with SW as you want it to got on CD asap so you can have it again up

[tepid raptor]

And you fill with SB?

instead

[rough egret]

Same logic for 2nd RLP 3rd TJS and Crawth, but for bleeds i open with stoneform

[strong forum]

always use SW first

its CD is super short

[rough egret]

But like for bleeds? On crawth you would rather handle first bleed with SW?

There is a chance that it can fit one more use in the fight 🙂 as its more than 2min 😄

Thats minor thing with SW being on that short CD

[strong forum]

yes always SW first

theres no point using stoneform on the first bleed

when youre in absolutely no danger and have everything available

youre just wasting CDR of SW at that point, cdr youd get anyway

[rough egret]

I see

[light halo]

Is there a list of trinkets to aim for?

[strong forum]

Grieftorch, all-totem, icon and whetstone

[light halo]

Oh I got all-totem didn’t really understand how it works from the text on it

Do I need to actually change stances when I get the buff?

[strong forum]

No it's entirely passive

It procs every 30seconds (if you parry) and grants 1 of 4 buffs

Air = 12-14% haste buff for 10sec
Earth = 4.4 - 5.2k armor for 10sec
Ice = 15-18k hps heal for 7 sec
Fire = dot on enemies for 6 seconds

[light halo]

Cool thanks for explaining

[strong forum]

It does those buffs + the dmg procs, it's suuper strong in m+

Pretty much the highest m+ dps trinket for us

And best defensive trinket too

[light halo]

Nice glad I kept it

[strong forum]

i wouldve loved pre-nerf all-totem even more

that shit was bonkers

on beta, ice gave the enemy a windfury effect, slowing their attack and casting speed, and fire made it so they took more dmg from you

absolutely insane

[light halo]

Awww

I Always get the stuff after the nerf

Got a question. How do you deal with the adds on the last boss of nok?

[strong forum]

it never made it to live like that

last boss nokhud requires the entire group to coordinate kicks

1 way to help yourself out is by hard CCing one of the outer mobs

so you deal with 3 first then get the last one

[light halo]

Yeah that’s what I did and got the aoe silence to grab two on one side

[rough egret]

Well thats it 🙂

Kick them and kill them 😄

[light halo]

Lol as dps i got it down pat but tanking it was like oh fuck these guys want t stay and cast

[simple zealot]

any "safer" build for jade 3rd boss? do i just take 2 shield walls and thunderlord maybe? anything else?

[strong forum]

thunderlord isnt enough to get demo any more frequent on the boss

waste of a talent

you only get demoshout for every 2nd jade strike

you cant get it any more frequent than every 2nd strike

if you suck with SW usage, then yeah double SW is playable

but generally theres nothing special you dont already play

[simple zealot]

aight thanks, btw on which dungeons do people normally play spell block?

jade is one of them right?

[strong forum]

AV, TJS, RLP
Smbg is also popular

HoV is also popular but not rly needed if you coordinate with your healer

[ocean bloom]

i just always run Spell block so i dont forget to talent it when i want it 🙃

[strong forum]

i guess

just means you do 1.5-2k dps less

[ocean bloom]

yeah i just pug 20s mainly so idc about that extra dps

[strong forum]

always pump

[ocean bloom]

i also play arms in raid now so ive done quite a bit of arms keys

bladestorm is fun

[pallid hollow]

God bless impending victory for TJS

[light halo]

Man what’s up with last boss of azure. I swear at the end of the fight I have all the orbs after me

Or do I just need to be kitting them

[agile pumice]

Don't they have an aggro table or something

[hollow vortex]

healing aggro

[marble cipher]

I don't think anyone has definitively found out what kind of reasoning there is behind whom they follow

healing aggro is as good as a guess as another afaik

[blazing condor]

im sure its just placebo but when i dont spam IP on that boss they dont seem to follow me

aka healing aggro

[craggy pilot]

how do you see if the Vexamus boss is gonna do the manabomb + fissure overlap? 🤔 will it show in the timers?

[urban bane]

Just don’t press our important button ez

[urban bane]

You’ll just need to kite. Use thundering and how it lets you move around in addition to leap etc

[urban bane]

Yes

At least with little wigs it shows

[craggy pilot]

will the timer line up on time?

or is it like off by 4 sec?

because mana bombs do the big dmg after 4 sec right?

[sick sentinel]

I would press devestate.....

........... if it had devestating effects

[craggy pilot]

https://wago.io/4sSCdffc9
will something like this work?

or will it desync again if the fight goes on for long?

[stark turret]

hey guys, I've read the wowhead guide on protection warrior but I still have some questions about the play style

[sick sentinel]

i've heard vexamus likes to unleash his full power and wipe the group

cant confirm only baby 15 keys

[urban bane]

Uhhh idk I just feed it one orb after the 2nd fissure and that’s it

I’ve never used a WA or anything

[stark turret]

it is mentioned that shield slam should be put on CD immediately, but I often find myself very high on rage with IP still being up, do I spend rage on revenge before casting another shield slam to avoid wasting rage? the guide puts revenge on the last priority

[craggy pilot]

ye ok, thats basically what the WA says 😄

[craggy pilot]

spend rage on IP

and send Slam

you spend on IP even though it is full

dont care about the shield

you spend on Revenge if you have free globals for it

otherwise send IP -> Slam

[stark turret]

why do I send IP when I literally gain next to nothing from it?

[craggy pilot]

you gain a ton from it

Avatar reduction, Indomitable heal

and you avoid overcapping

which is our biggest concern

[fallow nova]

Dumping rage is super important to how prot warrior works

[craggy pilot]

and the Violent Outburst rage

[fallow nova]

Make rage, spend rage, cycle cooldowns faster, it's a self-feeding cycle

[craggy pilot]

warrior is all a feedback loop of generate as much rage as possible, and spend it all

without overcapping

[craggy pilot]

^ this

[stark turret]

what about the 4pc buff from revenge

where do I put that in my priority

I sometimes find myself getting so many shield slam procs that I basically do nothing else

[tropic gorge]

i love it when that happens

ss and ip, thats big sexy cdr

[craggy pilot]

just make sure you revenge every 4th or 5th global

[sick sentinel]

you can get a weak aura for it or set buffs to "show short buffs only" makes it easier to track combat only buffs

[strong forum]

the goal of pwar is to generate and spend as much rage as possible because of talents such as Anger Management, Violent Outburst and Indomitable

[grand saddle]

whats the best class WA

[craggy pilot]

best is to make your own

[sick sentinel]

i don't use 1 weakaura, i use a bunch

[strong forum]

pwar is a huge rage cycle machine

[craggy pilot]

because then you get what you feel you need

but there are some decent groups out there

idk which to recommend though

[strong forum]

i recommend mine

[stark turret]

so even in big aoe's I press (outside of avatar) shield slam > thunder clap?

except I have the outburst buff

[strong forum]

outburst you want to primarily send on shield slam

only on 5+ targets during avatar on TC

[craggy pilot]

which one is yours?

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/p/Nomeratur

all shtuff here

[craggy pilot]

wouldnt show when i searched for some reason

[strong forum]

when youre learning to play prot warrior, i recommend hard focusing on shield slam

[stark turret]

another thing on the opener: where do I put thunderous roar?

[strong forum]

ravager > demo shout > roar > shield charge

always in that order

[stark turret]

guide says demo shout > ravager though

[craggy pilot]

you can ravager during your charge

saves you a global

[lofty widget]

ravager lasts longer than demo

[strong forum]

well the guide is wrong

i hate to say it

[craggy pilot]

wth i cant load any of the wago from you Nome 🤣

[strong forum]

?

wdym

[craggy pilot]

wago is messing up for me

idk

just keeps spinning

[amber siren]

wago breaks pretty often

it'll probably fix itself in a minute

[stark turret]

k, then im going to brand that into my brain for now thanks 😄

[sick sentinel]

the site is often tempermental

if thats the correct word, um, it goes offline or lags frequently for me

but when it works it works, so i no complain

[topaz leaf]

How do you group multiple packs? Just TC and move to the next one? Also sometimes I struggle to hold aggro mid pull when someone is pumping a lot of single target.

[sick sentinel]

shield charge with cd's if u can on start of pull

does a ton of dmg

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/RwQjeeIek

does this work?

[sick sentinel]

dunno what all im lookin at but sure

works on my end

[craggy pilot]

it worked finally 😄

[strong forum]

but did my profile link not work? cuz whenever people ask about UI i just link them that, if it doesnt work its kinda cringe

[craggy pilot]

nah it worked

just for me it was a bit messy

[topaz leaf]

Ok I've avoided opening with shield charge because a while ago I read we want to a shield block charge first, not sure how relevant that is.

[sick sentinel]

i mean, if u send something, anything, and it doesn't work, and its beyond your control, it is what it is

[strong forum]

ok good

[hazy sluice]

How would u cycle your CDs on RLP and crawth bleeds if I've got a evoker with bleed dispell ? Let him dispell first or shield wall first ?

[strong forum]

SW - demo - SW - demo

if you have evoker you can just SW- cleanse - SW - cleanse

its that simple

[hazy sluice]

Every other i have SW up ?

[tropic tangle]

imo, quick aggro with TC/Rev then move, tell your DPS to not open until grouped

[strong forum]

you should, yes

[hazy sluice]

Didn't work.. guess I suck

[sick sentinel]

you can do charge first if you wish, yes, and SB is a good idea, but one of your very first attacks if its open should be SC at start of fight

if possible

[strong forum]

dont play double shield wall

[hazy sluice]

Kk

[strong forum]

if you play impenetrable wall, you should have it for every other

[ocean bloom]

make sure you are playin The Wall and AM

[hazy sluice]

Need to trust in the reset then

[craggy pilot]

if you have evoker, i would say Wall first one, have Evoker dispell next 3

then Wall again

[strong forum]

its not reset rng, just press buttons gud

[craggy pilot]

and then rotate

[strong forum]

evoker cant dispell 3 back to back on that boss

[hazy sluice]

Evoker 1 min CD

[craggy pilot]

on crawth?

[strong forum]

no this is RLP

not crawth

[craggy pilot]

ohh

[strong forum]

crawth is twice as frequent

as 2nd RLP

[hazy sluice]

Crawth bleed is even more often

[strong forum]

crawth is every 20ish seconds

RLP is every 30-40sec

[craggy pilot]

ye ok, so he can take 2

and then 3rd a bit later

[hazy sluice]

When do u pull shield wall for the bleed. When she starts the hits?

[strong forum]

once you got the bleeds

not for the initial hits

if you only get 2 stacks cuz of parry you dont need anything

when you get 4 stacks is when you need defensives

[merry trout]

hey is unstable frostfire belt worth it or nah

[strong forum]

3 stacks should still be chill unless you do high keys

[sick sentinel]

if you have fire ring, yes

[ocean bloom]

if you have eragnog ring yes

[strong forum]

frostfire belt is bis with fire rings, otherwise nothing special

[sick sentinel]

i'd like the other fire ring too, but whatever

[atomic nest]

At this point .7 will give you a second ring anyway wouldn’t be to sad

[merry trout]

fire ring? may i know its name?

[ocean bloom]

its the ring from eranog

[merry trout]

ohh diurna's chosen? ok ty ty

[sick sentinel]

this is the damage version

"tank/healer" version

[hazy sluice]

NGL only 21 keys but still kinda stressful for me even with 414 ILVL. Sometimes I panic press SW before i wait how many stacks I get and then I see I get 2 stacks. Sadge

Need to get more comfy and chill that fight

But being a dad not playing many keys I don't get the routine fast enough 😄

[sick sentinel]

Duty would probably be insane on Hpaladin or any heal priest, has to be good for rsham too

[strong forum]

i mean bro

i only did RLP like twice

it do be like that sometime

[sick sentinel]

ninja pull patrol dragon has forever scared me away from RLP combined with lightning fuckers, 2nd boss adds being placed in fire and not kicked and dmg right after that add, and then breath on final boss

nothing else whatsoever in RLP scares me, but those things i listed, i got forever ptsd

[strong forum]

once youre past first boss

the dungeon is a joke for the tank

[hazy sluice]

First boss feels like most stress

[strong forum]

very chill after that part

[sick sentinel]

i fucking hate that patrol flying red dragon

[strong forum]

first boss is also super chill once you understand that the boss is AFK half of the time

and doesnt attack you

and just does other shit

she very rarely ever casts frostbolt more than 3 times in a row

[sick sentinel]

theres ways around him to never pull him but i just dread doing that pack everytime, especially on any kind of fortified week

[strong forum]

you always have SR up for each frostbolt sequence

[hazy sluice]

They do truck

[sick sentinel]

fuck that dragon yo

[hazy sluice]

Ngl

[strong forum]

sure they truck, but you only gotta live 2

then youre fine again

[hazy sluice]

Yeah

[strong forum]

so its omega whatever

[hazy sluice]

Defenses for chill storm still ?

[strong forum]

chillstorm does nothing idk

healer mechanic

[hazy sluice]

Or is the 25 lepan video a lie

Yikes

[sick sentinel]

the only thing on the boss 1 is you have to attack the adds to get aggro or healer dies

thats literal it

[hazy sluice]

I just listen to guys doing higher keys. Got no time to trial and error by myself slot 😄

[strong forum]

when it comes to what to look out for, sure

[hazy sluice]

He said Spellblock and SW chill storms and I didn't even question it a bit

[sick sentinel]

don't stand in the giant spikey ice bombs and run away from the vacuum mechanics

[strong forum]

cuz she still casts frostbolts during it

so yeah

[sick sentinel]

hmmm very hard

[strong forum]

chillstorm itself isnt dangerous

[hazy sluice]

Aaah

Sheesh

[strong forum]

its the frostbolts during it

[hazy sluice]

That's the friggin DMG there

[strong forum]

yes

[hazy sluice]

She only doesn't frostbolt during adds ?

[sick sentinel]

i legit dont think i've ever wiped to the first boss rlp and there wasnt already some BS happening in background of game

[hazy sluice]

Or are there other ways she doesn't do it

Hahaha omg

[strong forum]

she doesnt frostbolt when shes busy doing other casts

[hazy sluice]

I feel so dumb now

[strong forum]

[hazy sluice]

Thx

I will legit never play double wall again now too. Always took it fore securing 4 Hits in a row temple third boss. But i obviously don't need it now knowing the timings are that sick with cdr

[strong forum]

double wall is troll

outside of MDI

and i guess diurna mythic for p2 soaking?

[sand mason]

Even on tjs 3rd boss rlp 2nd boss?

[strong forum]

yes

[sand mason]

I feel kind of scared on 23s without it imo

[hazy sluice]

1st SW 2-3 SB 4 SW

[strong forum]

doesnt make any sense pantz

cuz

2nd boss RLP does tank buster every 30-40seconds

SW with impenetrable wall is 1minute CD

you can SW every other one

if you play double wall, you dont have it for every other one

you will legit have less SWs ready

[broken crater]

then you just havent gotten high enough yet, shits rough for healers eventually

also lmao that mdi take

(not from yogi)

[sick sentinel]

yogi do mdi = yogi have heart attack and every other organ attack and die

[strong forum]

same thing applies to TJS 3rd boss

with impenetrable wall you can SW twice

[sand mason]

This is a great point!

[strong forum]

just as many times as you can with double wall

[potent anvil]

I honestly never saw a reason for double wall in live keys. You can wall every other tank buster in like every dungeon.

[sick sentinel]

what if instead that talent was double last stands

[strong forum]

1st SW + demo + SR + IV
2nd spell block
3rd spell block + sr + IV
4th LS + demo + pot
5th SW + rest

[sick sentinel]

since its maths wrong

[strong forum]

this is the CD rotation you can do with impenertable wall on TJS 3rd boss

[potent anvil]

I did use double wall in time trial keys though. Pulls go so fast

[strong forum]

yeah MDI is the biggest usecase for it

cuz you do mega pull, followed by running

[ocean bloom]

what trinkets are they using in mdi for prot?

[strong forum]

prolly boon + all-totem

or icon + boon

or icon + all-totem

[ocean bloom]

yeah those were the choices i was thinking lol

[atomic nest]

What’s your best options for trinkets if you don’t raid ?

[ocean bloom]

pug raid 🙂

[strong forum]

whetstone + get your ass into raid

[blazing condor]

whetstone + weekly quest chest

[strong forum]

hc trinkets are plenty strong

[terse ether]

hi guys
Can anyone share stance macros please?

[blazing condor]

[terse ether]

my bad

thanks

[west dawn]

hello 👋 , I can't play a lot because of work but I sometimes want to play tank.
I already have a fury warrior and a dk dps
for you between war dk and pal which is the easiest to equip in double spe dps/tank🧐

[frank dust]

ok spell lock only blocks casted spells not melee's right?

[stark turret]

do you always pool your cds to use ravager, roar and shield charge always into demoshout+avatar?

[frank dust]

im not like missing something

[atomic nest]

From@my little experience prot and arms is really fun to rotate

[strong forum]

never pool cds

[tame jasper]

@strong forum Is there a trick to spawn waves at 3rd boss in TJS at same position or is it just random? Some say you can influence it, but either you can't or I'm far too stupid to do it.

[strong forum]

they line up automatically

[compact forum]

warrior

[strong forum]

i dont fucking know, whenever i stand still, it still spawns at random locations idk what to fucking think

i cba that boss

[stark turret]

ravager roar and shield charge do, but aren't avatar and demo shouts cd length depending on the fights?

[frank dust]

pretty sure its based on where boss is directing

[strong forum]

spell block for spells
shield block for melees

[blazing condor]

yeah this it would tilt tf outa me

[frank dust]

ahh ok

[strong forum]

you cant spellblock without pressing shield block

[tame jasper]

I also tried to tank in same position and in same face direction, but also always have the feeling that its random.

[strong forum]

shield block increases block chance by 100%

[tame jasper]

thanks for your thouhgts on that

[strong forum]

if you dont have shield block up with spellblock, you dont guarantee blocking

[frank dust]

obviously you dont stop pressing shielf block

[strong forum]

lots of people thought it worked like that

[frank dust]

wait what

[strong forum]

cuz reading tooltips hard

[frank dust]

no shot

[strong forum]

"spell block says can block spells" yeah can not will

[stark turret]

how do avatar and demo shout line up with the other cds when their cd isn't static?^^

[strong forum]

demo is static

avatar is 35sec CD

dont sit on avatar

you lose out on avatar casts if you wait for it

[stark turret]

demo is reduced on TC hits, no?

[strong forum]

only if you play a bad talent

playing thunderlord is a dps loss

[daring marlin]

[strong forum]

and a small defensive gain

i dont ever play it

or recommend it to anyone to play it

cuz as you already identified

itll desync cooldowns from demoshout

so the proposed solution would be to hold something? right?

which means you lose out on casts

if you hold on demo shout, you straight up waste the talent

if you hold the other CDs you miss out on extra casts over a key, ultimately losing dmg

so dmg wise, its a lose-lose situation

[stark turret]

I see

kinda defeats the purpose of a cdr talent if you need to hold the ability

[strong forum]

the talent is simply not strong enough

to warrant playing it offensively

[stark turret]

battering ram seems to be the alternative down the path?

[strong forum]

which is a massive ST dmg increase

[fallow nova]

Batterying Ram is delicious

[strong forum]

and rage increase

and ST dmg is what speeds up keys the most

the dps will handle aoe

[stark turret]

on that note, how important is the weapon enchant? I read sophic devotion for defense, frozen devo for offense

or rather how big the difference of those two is

[strong forum]

frozen devo is more dmg on ST, sophic slightly more on aoe

i recently enchanted frozen devo cuz its 400dps gain on ST, whereas sophic is only 1k dps gain over frozen on 10targets

and since im a dps whore, i did that

but objectively speaking, for actual keys sophic is better

[latent sierra]

Someone got a good Spell reflect weak aura ?

[strong forum]

depends what you want out of the weakaura

how much dmg you reflected, or when its up, chat announcer, buff tracker?

[daring marlin]

Thunderlord shouldn't be capped at 3s tbh.

[strong forum]

its funny how they ruined the talent

in legion it was 3 seconds UNCAPPED PER ENEMY

[daring marlin]

yuuuup

[strong forum]

then in SL they nerfed it to 1.5sec per enemy, then they nerfed it to 1.5sec per enemy capped at 3 enemies

now its 1sec per enemy capped at 3

fucking joke

[daring marlin]

S1 BFA demo shout azerite>>>>>this shit too

[strong forum]

demo extension was funny

[daring marlin]

S1 Prot was fun(minus infested)

[strong forum]

(minus IP on gcd and no ranged block)

you could play around ranged block, but it was like playing reprisal in SL

required fuckloads of extra brainpower

[timber forge]

@strong forum hey nomeratur if I outside of raid content. only m+ you think all-totem + icon still bis? or its better whetstone + something? retired someday to help friends in m+ only

[strong forum]

heroic is very VERY easily puggable, especially kurog and council

takes like 1hr a week to get chance at bis trinkets

but whetstone is a decent replacement if nobody else has icon

[slim dove]

last heroic council i pugged to carry a buddies alt ended with me at #1 dps, 30k higher then everyone else

[timber forge]

I already have all totem + icon, but I wanted to know if they are the best ones to do m+ too

[strong forum]

yes

[timber forge]

thanksss

[slim dove]

i think with dps/healer to ping off of, icon surpasses whetstone in damage

i think

[strong forum]

its really close

you enable groupwide buffs, so its a net gain for the group

personally, its only slightly behind

[timber forge]

without raid content its better change tier sets for catalyst m+ set right? im looking for better parts to replace

[slim dove]

true

[strong forum]

catalyst m+ set?

[timber forge]

I play fury sometimes and trying to catch the best options for fury+prot

[strong forum]

its the same item

[slim dove]

oh and now with cross-realm mythic up

good idea to pug M nogg and M council

still very easy fights, you'll know if you wipe on nogg if the group is capable of council so you can dip and save your lockout if it looks hopeless.

[timber forge]

I mean.. the chest from raid give crit+versa.. and I looking for transform in catalyst the chest from m+ giving haste+mastery but I thinking to keep good status with 2 specs like fury/prot.

[ocean bloom]

just gear for arms

arms and prot have damn near the same stat prio

[strong forum]

if you catalyst m+ chest you dont get haste, you get tier chest

what am i missing here

its always the same item

[timber forge]

sorry Im new in that system of catalyst

dont know transform status

[strong forum]

it will always be crit-vers

it always transforms into the same item

you dont just add the tier set onto the item

[timber forge]

ty this is very helpful

[strong forum]

you transform it into the tier item

[slim dove]

god if we could pick stats

[timber forge]

yea

[slim dove]

[ocean bloom]

imagine if we still had reforging

[timber forge]

I thinking about pick stats and thinking too much

[slim dove]

REFORGING

PLEASE

[strong forum]

yes

[ocean bloom]

why did they remove reforging?

[timber forge]

buuuuuuut if I transform my m+ in tier set. I can upgrade with valor after this or I need do it before transform?

[glass spear]

yes, you can upgrade it after

[strong forum]

"cuz it was too complicated, they didnt want people to have to reforge every single item the time they got a new one"

[ocean bloom]

[strong forum]

they wanted items to just be pick up and be upgrades

[timber forge]

tyyy

[compact forum]

i think they got it right end of last expansion, where you could convert to tier pieces as soon as your farmed the currency. I felt like i was at a disadvantage this time arouind because i only do m+ and don't raid

[rough egret]

if you hunt mogs, I advise you to transform first, then upgrade to max

[strong forum]

yes

its such a step backwards

[compact forum]

having to go months with no set bonus feels bad

[glass spear]

it's because of RWF, but they don't realize that RWF players will have 4p anyway and they are just screwing with the player base for no reason

[compact forum]

if they preplanned patch to be release as soon as rwf is over, i would be so happy

let me get my 4pc so i can farm 5 keys lol

[daring marlin]

What? You didn't like throw rock/wrench or alternating clap with IP? 🫠

[slim dove]

the thought of playing this class with ip on gcd sounds so awful.

[daring marlin]

It was pretty weird.

[ocean bloom]

the GCD changes were some of the worst chagnes ever seen

[daring marlin]

Especially coming off Legion and the endless IP spam we did!

[tame jasper]

They want the raid to be the primary source of set, so they force M+ only players to wait until season is up 1/3 to have chance for set (or force them into raids, u choose..)

like jdotb. He is always angry that he is forced to raid to be have a chance in M+

as he "lives" for m+ / MDI

[compact forum]

us m+ and pvp players need to unite

[stable flower]

Question, was running an AA earlier but was getting chucked after a bit on the tree due to stacks. Anyone have any tips? On my pally it’s a non issue cause I can deal with it myself or cheese it. Warrior I don’t have that option

[slim dove]

been like that since the release of m+, why be angry for over half a decade

play something else or deal with it lul

[tame jasper]

he deals with it, but he is not happy about it

[slim dove]

when you spend 8-12 hours spamming the same keys to practice paths 3-4 days a week

why is raiding for 4-5 hours a week such a problem

[strong forum]

cuz he doesnt like it?

[tame jasper]

Bukamaq's Lasher Toxin is refreshed by Hungry Lasher 22

What a combat log entry. Now I still don't know if its spell blockable or not (no sense's doc has not entry for them)

[slim dove]

yeah ok but your viewers dont care to hear you rant and complain about it for 6 years, idk it was the reason I stopped watching him in SL when he went on a shouting tirade about having to raid castle

[daring marlin]

I'm sure a good portion of his viewers share the same view.

Raiding is lame af.

[slim dove]

I enjoy it but i raid mythic casually 4 hours a week with some irl friends 🤷

[daring marlin]

Mostly being forced to do it with 19 other clowns.

[slim dove]

so really its just hanging out with buddies I wouldn't otherwise see

[amber siren]

when youre playing competitively you dont really get to raid with your friends

he feels forced to play content he doesnt enjoy, thats p much it

its his stream, he can whine if he wants to

[slim dove]

not saying he cant

its his stream, he can do whatever he likes within twitch's TOS lol

[strong forum]

Dots aren't blockable

[tame jasper]

🤦‍♂️ ofc. have too look at the appliement

[pale rock]

After Prot Warrior what spec and class is similar in difficulty of play?

[south zodiac]

How are prot warriors surviving jade serpent strike on 3rd boss in temple? I just watched my tank get smoked 3 times in a row with it

[viral elk]

Bitter immunity for one set of stacks (the second is what I shoot for) and pray the DPS nukes them

[lofty widget]

pins

[south zodiac]

thanks

[broken scarab]

do you actully have to tank the 2 extra adds in sbg 3rd boss serpant?

[lofty widget]

no

[sick sentinel]

it feels like teams will be racing for world first sub 10 minute TJS on like 20 21 22 on mdi soon

[oak echo]

You deal with it by bringing a poison dispel

[north dew]

what do you guys use for settings in raidbots to sim dmg for prot warrior in m+?

[amber siren]

just whatever the defaults are

oh m+

[lofty widget]

5 targets, 45 sec-1.5 min no buffs

[amber siren]

some people were doing 5 bosses for 1 minute but i have no idea how representative that is

dungeon slice isn't updated, so don't use that

[lofty widget]

should be fairly decent since ST and 5T prio doesnt change

[amber siren]

yeah most likely

[solemn current]

You can’t get off the boss so you can’t tank the small adds, but to reduce healing it’s a good idea to put someone in melee range of each while they are up. Otherwise they’ll cast the same ability the boss does when no tank is in range.

[hazy sluice]

for m+ what are the perfect sim modes i should do? and how many targets/minutes

[amber siren]

scroll up

[dry spear]

hey guys. i am using the liquid wa for the raid. we are on diurna and i am on add duty. does anybody got a screenshot for the marker where the adds spawns?

[stark turret]

the wowhead guide says TC > Shield slam during avatar, but the icyveins guide says the priority stay with Shield Slam > TC, but to be aware of the lowered TC cool down

so which one is it?^^

[solemn current]

Icy veins

Especially ST

[dire matrix]

Pausechamp?

[onyx moss]

Any tips for suggested trinkets

Multiple guides say different

[blazing condor]

depends on what content you do

[onyx moss]

I use Decoration of Flame and Incarnates Icon

[blazing condor]

thats a good combo

[onyx moss]

not sure if I should swap one of them since I also have the Rumbling Ruby

[blazing condor]

you can sim yourself to see upgrades

[unkempt palm]

i only have 20% haste on my gear at 415 ilvl, whats a good talent option to help me out in single target? because sometimes i feel a bit rage starved. Really dont want to drop HR though, i'm thinking either instigate, bloodsurge or enduring alacrity

[blazing condor]

into the fray is like the option if you need more haste for ST

[dire matrix]

icon and all totem

pog

[scenic mural]

Im pretty sure the wowhead guide says TC>SS w/ 2 targets during avatar

Double checked this and yes it says TC does more dmg vs 2 targets during avatar

[unkempt palm]

well its not needing haste its needing rage, i worded it badly tbh

[scenic mural]

They are the same thing, haste=rage

[blazing condor]

could also be misplaying by rage starving yourself

which logs could tell

[solemn current]

Honestly I feel like even 2 target it’s bad play. TC might do slightly more damage on 2 targets but it isn’t feeding into Heavy rep nor is it giving near as much rage. Would also never put outburst procs into TC on 2 target.

[amber siren]

the wowhead guide is wrong on different sections, that being one of them

[solemn current]

Better to use SS to throw it on CD, try and TC every other global and fish for more SS procs that way

[lofty widget]

always prio SS

only time you dont prio SS is in giga pulls where bloodsurge keeps you rage capped anyway

[verbal ledge]

I did a 20 RLP and kept getting wrecked by the frigid strikes by the first boss, is there a certain skill to take in the tree to help out with that. Can only spell reflect so much

[scenic mural]

Spell block

Of you face the chillstorm you can reduce that dmg too

[verbal ledge]

Oh really I missed that detail

[subtle sparrow]

I swear my groups are cursed today. Can't get an AV 16 completed in time for the life of me

[verbal ledge]

Just look in the direction of it during the cast?

[subtle sparrow]

How do you do 11k dps average over a dungeon with 400 ilvl?

[sick sentinel]

explain to us the best of your ability where you think or know it start to fall apart

oh its the warlock, he probably died on every trash pack and every boss to do that dps

that or literal not hitting buttons

[subtle sparrow]

Less deaths than the hunter

[timber forge]

11k overall

impossibru

[sick sentinel]

hes not hitting buttons if hes alive and low dps

just that simple

[mighty valley]

if their score was decent it's possible they ate too many edibles that hit right as the key started

[subtle sparrow]

I didn't check score, joined a group

[sick sentinel]

what was this persons ilvl and score roughly speaking (you could say 370 and 1100 say

[subtle sparrow]

I wish you could see the score and ilvl of all members of groups before you join

[subtle sparrow]

398 ilvl

He has cast 51 chaos bolts and 27 incinerates in 34 minutes

That seems low

[sick sentinel]

well, something went wrong that he wasn't able to hit his buttons, like bad positioning( you can solve this problem for your group) + RNG bullcrap or he wasn't TRYING to hit his buttons

[warm plinth]

Dude is just bad. No dancing around it. It's impossible to do damage that low unless you just don't give a fuck

[timber forge]

yea, its really impossibru

[sick sentinel]

try to call it out mid key without being toxic if that makes sense

you just make a simple statement at said player like "are you good [player name]?" something not imflammatory

[mighty valley]

maybe a friend of the person who made the group who's completely out of their depth

[subtle sparrow]

But he had ~400 ilvl m+ gear, so he has to have done quite a lot of them

[sick sentinel]

but honestly though, up until point where its actively adding 10's of seconds and minutes for time gates (killing first boss under 5 minutes total timer say), its not worth calling out

[orchid frigate]

ok watching MDI made me realize how the beer trick work and that I can interact with the mini boss after it has been active from the beer

thought it just reset and that was it

[hidden ether]

Wait so you just throw the beer and go you don’t have to wait for that animation BS

[cyan sorrel]

Question Avoidance or Leech on gear ?

[lofty widget]

leech

[orchid frigate]

@hidden ether think it is that you throw beer on king, drag something on top of him and he fights for a while. when he goes back to "green" you should be able to talk to him

[hidden ether]

Yeah takes forever they are almost dead by the time the next one is ready

[orchid frigate]

isnt it 20s?

ah well, pretty long i guess 🙂

[vernal vale]

@strong forum oh, look I'm being put on blast in the prot warrior discord. You want a chance to tear into the raid lead from the team that booted me there he is.

[warped pond]

ya, you tell half the story and talk all the shit you want

[jagged pier]

i like out of context screenshots

👍

[warped pond]

look at the conversation it replies to then.

[timber forge]

dwarf or dark iron dwarv 😎

[mortal brook]

Yes

[feral drift]

Liu Flameheart - Jade Temple - How do I survive this shit?

[slim dove]

lmao who tf cares

you kicked him

[warped pond]

Sit here and talk shit, blaming everyone but yourself. then get mad when someone calls you out on your bullshit. I shouldve kicked you a month ago and I let you stay

[slim dove]

nobody cares take your drama elsewhere

[warped pond]

oh, ya, im the bad guy for defending my team

[slim dove]

nobody gives a solitary fuck

[warped pond]

same

[slim dove]

we judged based on logs

🙂

[warped pond]

clearly you suck at reading logs LOL

[slim dove]

clearly

[mortal brook]

[timber forge]

holy shit lol

[slim dove]

you also give enough of a fuck to come here and start shit

[warped pond]

I didnt start a damn thing

[slim dove]

yeah you did actually

you kicked him

its done

move on

find another tank

[feral drift]

I know you clearly have some sort of drama going on but any advice? 🤣 Getting molested by serpent strike.

[warped pond]

I have another tank

who wont die

[mortal brook]

Someone scroll up and tell me whose being silly

[slim dove]

cool

[warped pond]

not my fault this idiot is in here talking shit, posting dms, trying to put us on blast

[strong forum]

when we went over his logs, he was the one receiving the least healinig almost entirely from all healers

[slim dove]

who the fuck are you

[strong forum]

all healing on him was incidental aoe healing

[slim dove]

put "us" on blast

[warped pond]

who the fuck are you

[slim dove]

some no name 4/8 mythic guild

IM A NOBODY

SAME AS YOU

[timber forge]

If I remember there's one part on pins about that

[mortal brook]

In the pins, brother

[strong forum]

now calm down and stop being salty

[feral drift]

ty

[jagged pier]

literally this i remeber

im not going to heal the tank

[warped pond]

im not about to sit here and let someone talk shit and tell half the stroy

[jagged pier]

and blame him for dying

[slim dove]

sub 4000 hps on the prot war entire pull

lmao

"why is he dying"

LOL

[jagged pier]

but logs tell the story

we did also say he died a lot to falling

[timber forge]

"who the fuck are you" by nobody

[jagged pier]

and told him how to manage the stacks better

[strong forum]

he adjusted his taunts, which leads to less dmg taken, on his sennarth kill, he received the 2nd least healing from healer out of the ENTIRE raid

his dmg taken is entirely normal

[jagged pier]

^^

[strong forum]

his blocked hits were normal

[jagged pier]

^^

[orchid frigate]

think it was scripte that said that tanks should only need "splash healing"

scripe*

[jagged pier]

yours healers need to actually heal a warrior tank

they arent the same to the others

[warped pond]

he took less damage because he sat there and told our other tank to taunt sooner because he couldnt handle it

[jagged pier]

no

because theres no reason not too

[strong forum]

no you were being idiots at swapping at 6 stacks

you swap on 4

[jagged pier]

^^

[strong forum]

not 6

its stupid to swap on 6

for no reason

[jagged pier]

^^

[warped pond]

wait let me try that

^^

^^

^^