Yes
#protection
plucky wyvern
guess im blind
strong forum
You're not the first one wondering about that
Lots of people coming in wondering why intervene didn't work
hidden ether
How much damage does whetstone deal in a dungeon is it worth farming out?
lusty tiger
How much damage does whetstone deal in a dungeon is it worth farming out?
5-6% overall with just the active
hidden ether
Oh wow that’s crazy. I currently have a 402 flame I might start farming more court of stars
lusty tiger
Isn’t grief kinda sus to use?
strong forum
It's a 2sec channel, decently easy to play around
plucky wyvern
if you have whispering3/grieftorch/all-totem what combo you going?
sick sentinel
i wonder what the tanks of MDI will be
hidden ether
I don’t raid mythic
strong forum
But yes, Brief can kill you
sick sentinel
im expecting alot of warrior dh and dk
strong forum
Heroic ones are good enough koro
hidden ether
Compared to a 415 trinket from m+
strong forum
if you have whispering3/grieftorch/all-totem what combo you going?
If your group also runs Icons, you run icon + all-totem. If they don't have Icons, grieftorch is better
strong forum
Compared to a 415 trinket from m+
Yes. Raid trinkets are better than m+ trinkets
plucky wyvern
If your group also runs Icons, you run icon + all-totem. If they don't have Icon...
what if only you and dps have it?
strong forum
Then it depends how many dps run it
If its atleast 2, it's a dps gain for the group
cinder storm
im expecting alot of warrior dh and dk
I think monk will have some prescense
strong forum
You won't see bdk
hidden ether
Is the damage buff not enough from them?
strong forum
You'll see 90%pwar, in AA you might see bear
strong forum
Is the damage buff not enough from them?
No
Pwar brings bshout, and big dmg every 1min/1.5min
hidden ether
Rip the days of bone storm being amazing
cinder storm
Most likely dorki will be the only one playing monk kek
strong forum
Is dorki even playing mdi?
patent gorge
Im doing some log diving for a friend. Im checking Kurog's Sundering Strikes casts. I took 4 and had 2 hit blocked. I thought we cant block or spell block that? I know I was running spell block for the adds.
hidden ether
Most likely dorki will be the only one playing monk kek
Mines only 45 so I’m not sure what’s there damage like?
cinder storm
Oh you are right, he's just casting now that you mention it
strong forum
Brew dmg is pretty good
But pwar is easier to do the same dmg
And bear just does outright more
hidden ether
Yeah I’m working on my bear but struggle with his rotation more then prot
cinder storm
"but no one plays bear so bear is bad nerf prot"
lime patrol
strong forum
Issue with bear is, they are 160cpm spec
lusty tiger
yea w 110 cpm being ironfur
hidden ether
Good old Carple tunnel spec
spare loom
I have crafted lariat and shield and have a 418 wep from vault, what else should I craft?
strong forum
Whatever is an ilvl upgrade
uneven mason
Issue with bear is, they are 160cpm spec
spare loom
many things are ilvl upgrade, was wondering if there was an order of items that need to be crafted
cinder storm
If spriest wasn't meta, I'm 90% certain void tendrils wouldn't have been fixed in pve
strong forum
many things are ilvl upgrade, was wondering if there was an order of items that ...
Nah, you already got the prio ones down
lusty tiger
many things are ilvl upgrade, was wondering if there was an order of items that ...
the upgrade that will give u the most stength in a NON TIER slot
lusty tiger
no
spare loom
I got 4p without hands
spare loom
and use CoS chest?
spare loom
oh
sick sentinel
oh yeah monks too
lusty tiger
monks?
spare loom
inferno breastplate?
sick sentinel
i dont feel like many will play ppal or druid
i think they are relatively weak for tanks
strong forum
Nobody will play pally
lusty tiger
inferno breastplate?
crit haste one a part of the legion 2pc set
spare loom
i started this expac as guardian druid, got to 2.4k rio and switched to prot war
lusty tiger
Nobody will play pally
sleepy spec
strong forum
Paladin isn't weak
But it just doesn't do as much dmg as pwar
Mdi is only about dmg
spare loom
the faster the mobs die, the faster the key is done
uneven mason
MDI isn't about highest keys it's about speed
uneven mason
Yup just outside of weird math territory
strong forum
The key levels are too high
spare loom
okay so if I need to drop teh CoS chest and the other 4 are tierset, I should maybe craaaft the waist
it's the lowest ilvl
lusty tiger
The key levels are too high
this season specifically?
lusty tiger
okay so if I need to drop teh CoS chest and the other 4 are tierset, I should ma...
yeah
strong forum
In bfa keys were fucking 17-19
For mdi
Now they're 21-23 when highest keys are 25/26
That's insane
strong forum
Terrible affixes and Super high key levels
lusty tiger
Terrible affixes and Super high key levels
thundering needs to be trashed
lusty tiger
what stats should I get tho? haste/vers?
haste/crit
thats why the chest is bis
and because haste budget:tier
south zealot
The key levels are too high
people were complaining that mdi would blast through 'weekly' keys
but then they added the great push so the 'need' for speedrunning higher keys isnt really there
jagged pier
imma just say i think the 4th affix should rolled each key fromthe pool of any we've had
throw a wrench into the mix
lusty tiger
imma just say i think the 4th affix should rolled each key fromthe pool of any w...
encrypted plsssssssssssss
south zealot
encrypted is so good
lusty tiger
ill do anything for it to come back
shrouded was ok
imagine not balancing the shrouded demons for this szn
and vclaw is just 1shotting people
jagged pier
jade serpent tech here we come
cant wait for pugs to expect me to pull like this tomorrow
south zealot
do they just pull all the trash to first boss?
lusty tiger
they in tjs rn?
south zealot
about to start yes
lusty tiger
oooo i gotta c
sick sentinel
jade serpent tech here we come
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBMAHUkibY the meta is shifting RN based on whatever happens on this stream
you can't stop it now, you are too late, we tried to warn you
uneven mason
Terrible affixes and Super high key levels
Lol cos 21 only but TJS gets the lowest at 20
south zealot
23 fortified azure vault isnt a walk in the park
sick sentinel
here it comes the interesting prat
south zealot
top 1400 world key right there
sick sentinel
how much does echo pull
south zealot
cant wait to pull that whole room on my next 20 tjs
dusky canopy
There tjs time trial was like 11 minutes wasn’t it?
south zealot
if echo can do it so can my pugs
dusky canopy
sick sentinel
i sooo hope they a do a huge pull again
lusty tiger
ye
sick sentinel
junkyard, again?
sick sentinel
mythic + dire maul
sick sentinel
split it up at least twice
cinder storm
They added S2 items for s1 mdi?
lusty tiger
They added S2 items for s1 mdi?
?
sick sentinel
im working on dk, so i don't lose out on potentially easy transmog i want to have
cinder storm
?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=193785/forgestorm naowh has this equipped
tropic gorge
Ayyy, an mdi team using a warrior! I loooove to see it
lusty tiger
https://www.wowhead.com/item=193785/forgestorm naowh has this equipped
wtfff
uneven mason
Ayyy, an mdi team using a warrior! I loooove to see it
This was expected
tropic gorge
Even so I'm really glad. Last xpack I didn't see any wars get to the top teams
uneven mason
Is sense running?
tropic gorge
At least it's not all druids again
ebon lantern
anyone have a weakaura showing defensives cds being thrown on you/group? things like ironbark, aura mastery, rallying cry and such
sweet summit
i used this
it kinda owns
i removed the movement cds on mine bc that's kinda annoying
uneven mason
At work so I can't load the MDI
ebon lantern
https://wago.io/-jC2P_4gF
thanks <3
lusty tiger
At work so I can't load the MDI
quit your job then
uneven mason
But anyone who is running let's summon some bear pets, guardians complaining
urban bane
sense is a joeler? so he's mortal after all
lime patrol
do you guys have any advice on finding a guild as a tank?
jagged pier
good luck
uneven mason
do you guys have any advice on finding a guild as a tank?
Find one you like, get in as DPS, establish yourself as a tank outside of raids, make friends with their current tanks, then hire a hitman to break their mousehand
lime patrol
lusty tiger
any1 have enhance alts they like?
lime patrol
think a nice arms warrior would definitely adopt one
uneven mason
Last time I got a tank spot I literally usurped guild leadership to do it
limber flame
Yeah, best bet is to be a crazy dps and become the flex tank
good thing arms/fury in a good spot right now
lusty tiger
i always replace shitter tanks
limber flame
shit im missing MDi what was the tojs tech
lusty tiger
shit im missing MDi what was the tojs tech
pull everything onto the boss
pale rock
If i go troll race wise female or male animationwise?
uneven mason
I've been too busy to look for a new team this xpac
lusty tiger
If i go troll race wise female or male animationwise?
male
limber flame
pull everything onto the boss
last boss?
uneven mason
shit im missing MDi what was the tojs tech
Literally boss to boss pulls
lusty tiger
last boss?
caster pack+ last pack onto last boss
limber flame
sounds dreadful
uneven mason
Fucking weird science pulling
lusty tiger
it was staggered a bit
limber flame
dps - but i saw it on mdi
dusty gate
Is this the first MDI season where someone’s using currently unavailable gear from a different season? Are people using season 2 trinkets too?
robust lark
What are our absolute best trinks for M+? I just got my whetstone to 415, and am using the all-totem at 408 as my 2nd. I've got a few other trinks, I am thinking Hoof is my other go-to for m+ at 415?
lusty tiger
What are our absolute best trinks for M+? I just got my whetstone to 415, and am...
hoof > whetstone probably
uneven mason
What are our absolute best trinks for M+? I just got my whetstone to 415, and am...
Sim, alltoten might still win
lusty tiger
sim to make sure
limber flame
think whetstone still beats hoof at 415
uneven mason
Hoof for ae, whet on st
lusty tiger
whet/hoof for raid
limber flame
totem not very good in raid
robust lark
cool will sim later. I've got a gift of radiance with +speed I keep wanting to use but meh
lusty tiger
since ur not proccing totem all boss fight
uneven mason
totem not very good in raid
Ya
hollow bane
Hey, one question about revival catalyst: Is there an ilvl to have to use item there? Got 372 chest But cant usw to get 4set Bonus?
limber flame
421 forgestorm kinda pog
rugged mural
Is going Vex > Crawth > Tree the best route for Tyranical keys now? Lust feels so wasted on Tree
uneven mason
Hey, one question about revival catalyst: Is there an ilvl to have to use item t...
What source was the chest from
limber flame
Is going Vex > Crawth > Tree the best route for Tyranical keys now? Lust feels s...
yeah on tyrannical week that seems to be the play
sick sentinel
i think what some teams do is they go tree or vex and then the other one, then bird
limber flame
you can do lust vex, and lust crawth with that
uneven mason
yeah on tyrannical week that seems to be the play
I always do tree first because then I know if it's a brick key or not
sick sentinel
some teams struggle with bird
limber flame
youll know if its a brick key when you get to crawth tbh
unless you brought an evoker
kindred furnace
It doesn’t anymore
limber flame
trash just flys down in one pack now
kindred furnace
Because it was bricking the dungeon
limber flame
you can just thunderclap and aggro all of them
kindred furnace
It’s all in a group now
cinder storm
Is going Vex > Crawth > Tree the best route for Tyranical keys now? Lust feels s...
If you want to go tree first you can pull first birds with all the branches and lust there, or second birds with all the branches, lust should be up for crawth
kindred furnace
Not an issue for anyone
uneven mason
I've never actually had a massive issue with bird, if they can get in the green circle they can manage to not fly off the platform
kindred furnace
They literally come down in a clump of 8
uneven mason
Prime ravager
limber flame
I've never actually had a massive issue with bird, if they can get in the green ...
It's less getting blown off its more you getting destroyed by crwath bleed
you can stand on the staircase on crawth platform and trivialize the firestorm completely
uneven mason
It's less getting blown off its more you getting destroyed by crwath bleed
I trust myself
mild river
Hey, do we have a max dps build for m+?
hollow bane
What source was the chest from
Which source is allowed?
uneven mason
Afaik any world content or m+
hollow bane
Okay, i ll try Then , thx
kindred furnace
Would recommend using a m+ piece because it’s still upgradable after catalyst
torpid fiber
im having a really hard time having as much fun pushing keys this season as i did in sl s4 and i just cant put my finger on why
uneven mason
Because s4 was objectively end of expansion overpowered faceroll
torpid fiber
its not a difficulty thing honestly. maybe the dungeons arent as fun?
pale rock
I actually didnt expect i would enjoy prot Warrior when i started playing it, i only had played Fury and didnt like it
cinder storm
S1 SL pwar was the epitome of not having fun
sick sentinel
prot paladin maybe
chilly brook
It was far better than dealing with IP on the GCD of s1 BFA
Like granted s1 of BFA we were basically the whole groups damage
But anything that did shoot shoot or rock throw also ate your ass
Rocks were the kryptonite of shields apparently
Somehow just phase right through them
kindred furnace
The joy of spell reflect being your only way to deal with magic damage too
torpid fiber
The joy of spell reflect being your only way to deal with magic damage too
spell block?
cinder storm
It was far better than dealing with IP on the GCD of s1 BFA
My PTSD comes from dps not kicking and watching my hp get chunked by 30% from each bolt cast from halls
kindred furnace
Ye
zealous kelp
hey any tips for AV last boss specifically with the orbs?
chilly brook
My PTSD comes from dps not kicking and watching my hp get chunked by 30% from ea...
Yea but every season after season 1 was even worse for that
Since they kept buffing the casters
bold turret
hey any tips for AV last boss specifically with the orbs?
Don’t stand in them
pale rock
In this expac focused on things i havent tried much before tanking and playing casters
limber flame
hey any tips for AV last boss specifically with the orbs?
Usse thundering for the slow immune to walk around, charge crystals for movement, ask healer for dispel
kindred furnace
Use thundering to make a massive move with the boss
bold turret
Avatar also breaks the slow
heady gyro
hey any tips for AV last boss specifically with the orbs?
Leap away always be on outer ring on the wall . If it gets bad and you need to move you can ask healer to cleanse. Don’t move around to much
bold turret
Don’t jiggle on the spot
median tulip
The slow only stacks when you move, and has a short duration; like 4s of standing still and it's gone. So in addition to dispels and avatar, work on quieting your movement in the fight
zealous kelp
ty guys
bold turret
I think the orbs chase highest healing? If that’s the case reduce the amount you use IP and make them chase the healer
pale rock
M+ as a tank sounds more stressful than playing DD. Granted i never did M+ with either
bold turret
I was in the habit of keeping 150-180k IP when not needed at all
median tulip
Don't even track your IP
pale rock
everything is more stressful than playing dps
I can never play healer my hands aint good enough for that much keybinds
amber siren
No need to reduce IP use or you'll cap rage
Avatar, thundering, leap are plenty of tools
kindred furnace
Idk if you want to not track IP tho lol
You just don’t mind it being wasted during high rage generation
pale rock
Uff the MM hunters keep stealing my aggro
amber siren
You'll use IP as a rage dump, tracked or not. Outside of specific scenarios where you're purposely building a buffer, the amount doesn't matter
You'll just be naturally using it
Aka tracking it is usually unhelpful
tropic gorge
I like knowing what it's at. I'm usually way over capped, when the tracker shows me at like 168k lol
amber siren
The cap literally does not matter
tropic gorge
Iirc my cap is like around 86k or so, ish
amber siren
You're using IP to proc AM, the shield is just a nice to have
It could do nothing and you'd still use IP
tropic gorge
Duh.
amber siren
🤷 doesn't seem duh when we're talking about worrying about a cap here
kindred furnace
My tracking comment was more for defensive usage in raid
tropic gorge
Oh, sorry you thought I was worried about a cap. I simply stated I like the ip tracker to know where it's at at any given time. I also usually don't look up at my buffs, as so many roll on and off and they shuffle so often.
Either way, I see nothing wrong with an ip tracker wa. Track it or not, personal preference
pastel sleet
How do these prot warriors in the mdi do so much damage
bold turret
Big pulls
You can’t compare apples to oranges if your doing 1 pack at a time and they are doing. 5
tropic gorge
Ya when you do one pull that is 4+ pulls or an entire wing to a boss, your dmg is gonna skyrocket
kindred furnace
Also boon
strong forum
How do these prot warriors in the mdi do so much damage
the dmg isnt really surprising giving the pull sizes and kill speeds
bold turret
Also likely that they are optimising damage cds that most average players don’t
Press buttons in correct order
pastel sleet
Well lets say im 416 and am farming 16s with friends. Triple pulling for fun. How do i pull these numbers? Even when im just spamming revenge i only break 100k on like tree boss room
tropic gorge
Mdi is legit professional tier teams that (probably) have every pull planned out to a t
strong forum
i was expecting more dps in AA tbh
they did legit same dmg as in normal keys
in AA
kindred furnace
The stuff also has to die in a timely manner or else your burst falls off
bold turret
Well lets say im 416 and am farming 16s with friends. Triple pulling for fun. Ho...
Pretty impossible to give an answer, post logs and holes can be picked in it.
pastel sleet
Ill log some runs later tonight
tropic gorge
Do you do giga sized pulls
tropic gorge
Many multi group pulls?
tropic gorge
Oh yeah, aren't yiu the one thst does normal but quick pulls?
strong forum
my routes are just hold W
bold turret
Is that in 23/24s?
tropic gorge
I think I remember watching you stream some during sl
bold turret
We’ll kill timing changes
bold turret
I just wondered that’s all
tropic gorge
Yaaaaa I remember that. Nom you Inspired me to keep doing normal and well paced dungeons instead of the "pull everything"
bold turret
You don’t pug though so I assume you have good dps
bold turret
Fair enough, you are a charitable player
tropic gorge
What's your ilvl at?
strong forum
418
tropic gorge
I imagine you run in bstance often?
tropic gorge
Lol
bold turret
Do you have any logs your willing to share?
bold turret
Of course not but some people get anxiety over it
tropic gorge
I'm like 392, iirc. I've noticed that (I pug all runs) if my healer is decent or OK I can stay in bstance. I've had a few people however that I've been forced into dstance to try and survive
strong forum
i can pretty much self sustain in those key ranges
dont really need a healer outside of very specific bosses or mechanics
tropic gorge
I do have leech enchants on bracers and cloak and talents. My self healing is, well I never thought a warrior would ever out heal anyone, but here it is 2023 and I can often out heal healers on some pulls lol
strong forum
was never out of the ordinary to outheal your healer
even in SL when pwar was considered trash
funniest thing is, is that current pwar is just what pwar was in SL but easier and with 100% banner uptime
nothing more
tropic gorge
Sadly I didn't get far on my war in sl to experience that
I love the current state of warrior. It feels so damn good to be a tank right now
celest aurora
Hey guys, I tried macroing in Shield charge into charge but both gets consumed, is there a way to not consume both or is it just stupid to macro them together?
pallid quiver
You also in like 99% of situations not be using Shield Charge to charge, either
strong forum
shield charge shouldnt be used as charge, but just an aoe nuke + SB and rage generator
deep spruce
celest aurora
Ahh ok
tropic gorge
I use SC to get more block uptime, and dps increase
celest aurora
Thought u used it for initial charge
dark lark
no, you just charge
celest aurora
to have SB without rage
dark lark
shield charge is an attack
tropic gorge
(I only do m+. I do not know about raid things)
granite lodge
if i keep getting TC and SS procs do i skip revenge and pump rage into IP even if IP is at max?
pallid quiver
Yep
strong forum
yes
pallid quiver
It's more important to spend the rage than worry about something as trivial as whether IP will be capped or not
Since the entire function of the class depends on its rage economy
meaning the generation and spending of rage
pallid quiver
to have SB without rage
On your initial pull, you should have CDs up, so you can pre-ravager, Charge+Avatar, SS/TC when you get in, and start flooding in rage to both SB and mash IP like a madman for the initial bit
celest aurora
On your initial pull, you should have CDs up, so you can pre-ravager, Charge+Ava...
whats SS and TC , sorry im new to warr
celest aurora
ty
pallid quiver
He beat me to it, but yeah
pale rock
With what cd would i macro the Troll Racial?
pale rock
I need go over my macros once im home
vernal vale
So I got this response to running your pinned build @strong forum
On another note I'm looking for a new raid team.
vernal vale
Your talents are apparently wrong and the feedback on sennarth logs last week was also wrong. It's all my fault and I die too easily.
hoary thicket
OK, so I logged into my warrior for the first time this expansion... where did all my spells go?
vernal vale
That's the camp they are in
strong forum
ah yes
quartz briar
I mean. If you're dying. You should change stuff to not die
pallid quiver
have they tried simply getting good?
strong forum
he isnt dying
pallid quiver
I mean. If you're dying. You should change stuff to not die
He is, he's changing raid teams
strong forum
thats the funny part
pallid quiver
^^^
quartz briar
That's totally fair
uneven mason
OK, so I logged into my warrior for the first time this expansion... where did a...
Talents
vernal vale
I also asked what talents they think I should run. Got told I don't know I don't play prot but the ones you run are wrong.
strong forum
HAH
pallid quiver
iirc The man was needing the least healing out of the entire raid
vernal vale
I figured you could use a laugh @strong forum
pallid quiver
I also asked what talents they think I should run. Got told I don't know I don't...
I'd have told someone to fuck off at that point, because that's such a stupid statement to ever make
hoary thicket
Talents
I got the general M+ build from the pins ion the channel but still, where spells?
tropic gorge
Did you out dps an officer or one of their chosen and open the salt Mines
tropic tangle
good shit, I love when things come full circle
you were the dude who got like zero direct heals?
quartz briar
The shitty thing on Sennarth is not needing healign forever and then suddenly turning your back for a second on stairs to try and dodge tornadoes and getting slammed with a 400k web blast
uneven mason
iirc The man was needing the least healing out of the entire raid
Literally attrition to death over the course of 40s after tankbuster
kindred furnace
Oh was this the one that told you to sit in perma d stance
vernal vale
I'd have told someone to fuck off at that point, because that's such a stupid st...
I was leaving the team after raid last night they booted me before I got a chancekl
tropic gorge
Man that's a shitty situation they caused
pallid quiver
I'd have said it the instant they said that and /gquit on the spot, raid be damned, but not sure if your situation allowed
tropic gorge
Good riddence bro
uneven mason
TFW they invite a paladin and wonder why they can't heal themselves
vernal vale
EHRPS for the sennarth kill
vernal vale
I'd have said it the instant they said that and /gquit on the spot, raid be damn...
I wanted 4/8 if possible to make searching for a new team easier.
tropic gorge
Could invite the paladin that my raid uses to tank that can't hold agro, and losses it to a dragon dps and a feral tank druid doing white damage
strong forum
they stop at 2/8 cuz youre polluting the vault table
if you only do 2/8 you have a higher chance at 424 tierpieces
tropic gorge
No shit
pallid quiver
I wanted 4/8 if possible to make searching for a new team easier.
I don't know what the raid team finding climate's like since I haven't looked since Pandaland, but godspeed if that affects you a lot
strong forum
and terros and sennarth only drop whack afaik
vernal vale
if you only do 2/8 you have a higher chance at 424 tierpieces
Hmm, that's interesting to know.
quartz briar
I think a bunch of guilds are currenlty in the process of blowing up after their 4th week stuck spider
vernal vale
I don't know what the raid team finding climate's like since I haven't looked si...
Mid tier as a tank can be really rough especially as most teams fill within the team.
tropic gorge
Mid tier as a tank can be really rough especially as most teams fill within the ...
That's an issue I've always had when I look for open tank positions
I don't blame groups for promoting tanks from within, but it does make finding a tank spot extremely difficult, borderline impossible unless you know someone or have an in
quartz briar
On the flipside, Every guild wants mplus tanks, so having healthy Arms Logs to back up your application is the best way you can spend your time imo
vernal vale
I'm gonna look and be an m+ player for a week or two spending some extra time with the wife instead of raiding.
tropic gorge
Atta boy
lusty tiger
Your talents are apparently wrong and the feedback on sennarth logs last week wa...
Is the other tank not taunting or something lmfao
tropic gorge
Happy wife happy life
quartz briar
Being "not the worst" dps in raid and being a flex/mplus tank is an easy in
tropic gorge
Being "not the worst" dps in raid and being a flex/mplus tank is an easy in
I'll try this over the coming weeks. I do prefer arms over fury
vernal vale
Is the other tank not taunting or something lmfao
Sometimes yeah lol
past dragon
what are the best addons for tanking (I haven't tanked since like BC)
vernal vale
Being "not the worst" dps in raid and being a flex/mplus tank is an easy in
I havent touched dps this expansion so brushing it off for m+ might be interesting.
pallid quiver
the same usual ones you should already have
WA
Some nameplate stuff
Boss mods
weary python
How does one get a 421 forgestorm if neltharus isn't in the m+ rota?
past dragon
gonna start practicing
lusty tiger
Sometimes yeah lol
Talent point issue fosho
pallid quiver
For Warrior specifically, you'll want a way to track SB uptime and some kind of trackers for Outbursts
past dragon
@pallid quiver i dont think i have nameplate stuff
pallid quiver
Plater's a common rec, ElvUI's got some funny ones as part of its base kit, uhhhh
tropic gorge
Plater is a God tier plate mod
uneven mason
what are the best addons for tanking (I haven't tanked since like BC)
Weak aura
tropic gorge
Use it. Love it. It is the way.
pallid quiver
there's some others that aren't coming to mind atm
vernal vale
Plater is amazinf
past dragon
I have WA and DBM
uneven mason
You can turn the rest of your ui off, with just wa and plater
tropic gorge
Elvui and plater are friends thankfully, and will throw warnings. Elv will disable its bars for plater
pallid quiver
Yeah, 100% you need a way to track nameplates to make managing mobs easier to do; can even customize them to be different colors to help identify prio mobs
uneven mason
Yeah, 100% you need a way to track nameplates to make managing mobs easier to do...
And prio casts
pallid quiver
I personally just use Elvui's nameplates over Plater because I can't be arsed to grab another addon to the load and it works fine enough at the moment
tropic gorge
Sometimes I like to tweak and tinker. And my God does plater support that
cinder storm
I personally just use Elvui's nameplates over Plater because I can't be arsed to...
Do You have to reload every other key with elvui?
pallid quiver
No
tropic gorge
I don't
cinder storm
Base ui gets tainted quite easily
uneven mason
Elvui I found wasn't needed anymore
tropic gorge
Yeah using it now is totally optional, I just prefer it
I've used elv since like wotlk
pallid quiver
I'm very used to its base party frames and the look of the chat box
game looks weird without it at this point
tropic gorge
Same for me with elv. I'm really used to how it looks
uneven mason
The stock UI chat is fine and wa and plater carries the info I need, the only other addon I occasionally use is clique, because the mouse over casting in the stock UI is a pain to set up
cinder storm
Honestly, it's tilting going into a pack and getting the reload UI message
tropic gorge
Honestly, it's tilting going into a pack and getting the reload UI message
You may have conflicting mod issues throwing Lua errors
uneven mason
Honestly, it's tilting going into a pack and getting the reload UI message
Big reason to limit ui addons
tropic gorge
And swatter is freaking tf out
uneven mason
This action was stopped because Fuck you
tropic gorge
I had a similar issue at launch, an older addon wasn't being nice. I'd suggest going through your add-ons and removing stuff
cinder storm
Apparently it's the UI that got corrupted at some point, I've cleared most of my addons and whatnot but I have to do another clean
tropic gorge
You could always go scorched earth. Nuke em all and start over
cinder storm
Tried that
tropic gorge
And it was still broke?
At that point, I'd nuke my entire wow folder and reinstall to a different drive if you are able
Could also Google where (if not in the install directory) wow keeps its config files, nuke them and try to force it back into its default state
limber flame
@strong forum yo nomeratur in one of your logs of SBG it says you were using spear, were you just trying it out?
tropic gorge
I low key miss having spear. I thought that was such a cool ass ability, and it's waterfall of rage was fun lol
limber flame
thought you were about to unleash some tech
pallid quiver
if only it could trap allies
then it'd at least have tech for murdering them for grieftorch cd smh
vernal vale
Lol
tropic gorge
Lmao
weary python
so how does one get a 421 forgestorm? Or is it just an MDI thing?
dusky canopy
Tournament realm
strong forum
MDI thing
tropic gorge
Seeing pwar shine has inspired me to want to push m+ even more
vernal vale
There's the sennarth kill log
tropic gorge
Your dmg taken on that is really, really close to the 2 dps under you
I'm no pro, but that seems really good to me
vernal vale
I mean look at the ehrps and it tells quite a story about damage taken on that fight.
uneven mason
Check that ehrps
pallid quiver
can look at health values, even
tropic gorge
So, as I looked at dmg taken, that dk took a lot of dmg. Do they not have heavy mitigation? I thought they were parry gods
uneven mason
Fucking dead last
tropic tangle
all that healing shit aside
uneven mason
So, as I looked at dmg taken, that dk took a lot of dmg. Do they not have heavy ...
They absorb and heal it back
tropic tangle
I don't know how they're crawling up your ass when you're almost out DPSing the windwalker
pallid quiver
There were three times in the entire fight you even went below 50%
tropic gorge
Is ehrps= effective health return per second?
pallid quiver
and the time you died was because you got exploded on, mostly
uneven mason
all that healing shit aside
Ehrps is a representation of how well you mitigate and have to rely on other people
tropic gorge
And , how do I view that? (I'm not familiar with looking deep into
pallid quiver
Is ehrps= effective health return per second?
Received per second, iirc
uneven mason
Is ehrps= effective health return per second?
External healing required
pallid quiver
It's under the Damage Taken tab
vernal vale
and the time you died was because you got exploded on, mostly
Yeah, instead of one spider to break my web they killed 2
tropic gorge
Ty
uneven mason
Meaning when the healers actually have to heal you
sick sentinel
whats the best highlights of MDI
tropic gorge
Holy shit
pallid quiver
Yeah, there's like
sick sentinel
i got distracted by AI streamers fighting with eachother omegalul
pallid quiver
nothing you can do about getting murdered by your raid team
tropic tangle
Ehrps is a representation of how well you mitigate and have to rely on other peo...
I know, just saying, if they're getting up his ass about being hard to heal they better be on DPS for being knuckledraggers too
pallid quiver
I know, just saying, if they're getting up his ass about being hard to heal they...
but they're doin' dam and that's hard, bro
tropic gorge
Man's the opposite of hard to heal with that log. Even my dumbass can see that
pale rock
I think i go with female troll the male models tusks clip trough my helmet
pallid quiver
imagine directly killing your tank and then telling them they die too easy
uneven mason
I know, just saying, if they're getting up his ass about being hard to heal they...
They're not on him about being hard to heal, they're on him for being asked to literally heal him at all
lusty tiger
People can’t be toxic to you if you’re the toxic one
rose cobalt
Real
tropic gorge
People can’t be toxic to you if you’re the toxic one
Based
uneven mason
People can’t be toxic to you if you’re the toxic one
Fuck you jerreeeee
rose cobalt
Put pubs on the defensive
tropic gorge
Lol
lusty tiger
❤️
lusty tiger
dusky canopy
ehrps loooking niiiicee
Great to use that tab when RL try’s to tell to play more defensively because it will “help”
lusty tiger
Reckon the dps need tank trinkets now [ehrps link]
stray dome
Trying to craft the Primal Molten defender shield., is 10k fee normal for this?
lusty tiger
Trying to craft the Primal Molten defender shield., is 10k fee normal for this?
Are u on a small server?
stray dome
nah Ragnaros
tropic gorge
I've had both good and extremely poor experiences with rag players in m+
lusty tiger
Average rag player in m+ is like 2400io ret that won’t cc
stray dome
Yea got the Primal infusion and wanted to spend it on Shield, seemed like the best starting point for a 405. Dont mind spending 10k just dont wanna grosly overpay if its not needed 🙂
lusty tiger
10k is high end but not insane
vernal vale
Great to use that tab when RL try’s to tell to play more defensively because it ...
Lol tried using that they said it's irrelivent.
lusty tiger
Lol tried using that they said it's irrelivent.
U don’t wanna play w those clowns then
lusty tiger
Lol tried using that they said it's irrelivent.
Ur the whipping boy for their retard tank probably
Missing taunts zzz
stray dome
also is there a way to sort out other services than crafting services? The constant spam of carries makes it hard to find the crafters..
tropic tangle
10k imo would be on the high end for someone skilled enough to hit your 418
vernal vale
Yeah, it was obvious they don't understand prot warrior or how to read logs
tropic tangle
it's not a rare recipe like lariat
stray dome
10k imo would be on the high end for someone skilled enough to hit your 418
Y hade the same feeling, a 405 felt more like 6-7k
lusty tiger
10k gold is like $1.50 so it really depends on how that feels to u
Otherwise u gotta search around
tropic gorge
20 bucks for 163k when I looked at tokens 2 or so weeks ago
tropic gorge
Mhm
stray dome
you guys did Hase/vers or Haste/crit?
lusty tiger
Hate/crit
lusty tiger
And parrying
pale rock
Can i macro together Avatar, Demo shout, Trinket and Racial?
lusty tiger
Can i macro together Avatar, Demo shout, Trinket and Racial?
Yeah
stray dome
OK thanks
uneven mason
Vers is if you'd rather be a demon hunter and cry about your scars hurting when it's damp
tropic gorge
I need more haste. Like a lot more
uneven mason
I need more haste. Like a lot more
pale rock
The only 2 tanks i played in Df are Prot warrior and BDK but i cry when i have people speeding past me when i play BDK. Durability feels equal
lusty tiger
Bdk wheelchair feels so bad imo
tropic gorge
Lmao
uneven mason
Specced into all 3 speed boosts still feels wheelchair
lusty tiger
U kno it’s only speed when u gotta shit right after
uneven mason
Know what legit feels painful, playing my paladin once a week
lusty tiger
Why would u do that? For the vault?
tropic gorge
I've tries 4 times In the last few years to level a paladin and. Man I just can't
uneven mason
I'd have shot whatever horse they hired for that divine steed
tropic gorge
The whole class I feel is boring
robust lark
I was told earlier today by some of my guildies that are in the mid 390 ilvl that prot pally was best tank now and they had the nerve to discuss it in discord while I was there for like 10 minutes.
uneven mason
Because you hit divine steed and the feather priest zooms passed you
lusty tiger
I was told earlier today by some of my guildies that are in the mid 390 ilvl tha...
It is very good
uneven mason
I was told earlier today by some of my guildies that are in the mid 390 ilvl tha...
P pal is the best
pallid quiver
I was told earlier today by some of my guildies that are in the mid 390 ilvl tha...
... like why do you care tho
lusty tiger
What should I do? 415 here
What should you do about what?
pale rock
Bdk wheelchair feels so bad imo
its funny pally gets a heroic leap ish talent while dk doesent feelsbadman
robust lark
Should I kick them out of the guild for having the gall
uneven mason
Like they're not wrong, pal is flat out overall the best tank
lusty tiger
Do I cry or do I gquit
Does saying it is the best mean you are forced to reroll?
uneven mason
its funny pally gets a heroic leap ish talent while dk doesent feelsbadman
It'll feel bad if they ever take grip away
lusty tiger
its funny pally gets a heroic leap ish talent while dk doesent feelsbadman
Well let me introduce you to yrell
uneven mason
Which is about as likely to happen as bears getting a real magic mitigation ability
robust lark
I'm just trying to figure out if getting on my prot pally will make my heart stop hurting
lusty tiger
I'm just trying to figure out if getting on my prot pally will make my heart sto...
Nah u can’t fold to the masses
lusty tiger
I'm just trying to figure out if getting on my prot pally will make my heart sto...
Play what makes you happy when u pop your CDs
lusty tiger
Helps my heart
U ancient being
robust lark
But I'm losing so much sodium in my tears
pallid quiver
didn't bears have a magic mitigation ability in legion
robust lark
I have to supplement
cinder storm
didn't bears have a magic mitigation ability in legion
Mark of ursol
pallid quiver
i dunno, it feels like it did but me warrior
uneven mason
U ancient being
Legit haven't been in the hospital for heart problems since I was 22
robust lark
I'll zugzug through the pain and pop shield wall and sr and point cleaves at the ret pallies so their parses stay low
uneven mason
didn't bears have a magic mitigation ability in legion
Yeah and it would be so easy to add it back
lusty tiger
Legit haven't been in the hospital for heart problems since I was 22
Were u a salt addict? Or like medically obese?
Or ): genetics
uneven mason
I was taking speed
lusty tiger
I was taking speed
Recreationally or prescribed?
uneven mason
And stackers
lusty tiger
Wtf is stackers
uneven mason
And energy drinks
sick sentinel
Leveling a prot war through dungeons. 2 questions. Do you’s take devastation talent that makes it passive and do you’s use slam?
pale rock
Thats macros currently use any other stuff i could macro together my small clumsy hands like less key
uneven mason
Wtf is stackers
A dietary supplement for energy that had epinephrine in them
sick sentinel
Trying to setup hotkeys but i like the leave some talents in the same position as my pvp talents for other spec but i can’t and have other crucial ones in comfortable places lol.
lusty tiger
A dietary supplement for energy that had epinephrine in them
Were u like working 20 hr a day?
uneven mason
Yes
uneven mason
Construction
lusty tiger
Construction
Bad combo
tropic gorge
Stackers are caffeine pills
uneven mason
92 hours a week is a lot of ot
uneven mason
Stackers are caffeine pills
Nowadays they are, epinephrine is illegal now
robust lark
Trying to setup hotkeys but i like the leave some talents in the same position a...
QERTFGZXCV12345 and whatever mouse buttons and shift for everything you gonna have enough keybinds for life
uneven mason
Drink coffee like an adult
64oz a morning
tropic gorge
Nowadays they are, epinephrine is illegal now
When did that happen? I used to take that In supplements back in 02 to 04
lusty tiger
64oz a morning
There is not even an amount of water you could reasonably drink throughout the day to cycle out all those uppers
tropic gorge
Had to drink lots of water but damn that shit helped me get shredded. Only time in my life I've had ab lines in my stomach
pale rock
i idendify as gym addict no regrets here not being overweight and having depression beats almost everything . from 119 to 74kg i started with workout and diet change back in 2019
uneven mason
When did that happen? I used to take that In supplements back in 02 to 04
04ish, I remember that my buddy bought the gnc out
uneven mason
Had to drink lots of water but damn that shit helped me get shredded. Only time ...
Right, burn 6000 calories a day
sick sentinel
QERTFGZXCV12345 and whatever mouse buttons and shift for everything you gonna ha...
Yeah, i have g600 so plenty of buttons it’s just some things like let’s say hamstring i like at 5 charge at 4 but 1-2-3 are things i use all the time and with prot so far i have to move things around. Just like it for muscle memory so if slam really isn’t used as prot or the devistation talent isn’t usually taken that would change the way i set my stuff up
tropic gorge
I mean, you had to be careful and mindful of water intake with it, but dam
tropic gorge
Right, burn 6000 calories a day
I was in the army. I'd take 2,and go on a 9 mile run
uneven mason
I drank a gallon of Gatorade a day
lusty tiger
I have been lifting 3 months now, gained about 5lb muscle and 5lb creatine water weight so far
sick sentinel
So just wondered from people that use prot if that talent is worth taking and if slam is even used as a prot war
rose flicker
Thats macros currently use any other stuff i could macro together my small clums...
You don’t use the shield slam + IP macro?
lusty tiger
I drank a gallon of Gatorade a day
This was your lifeline
uneven mason
So just wondered from people that use prot if that talent is worth taking and if...
Slam isn't used
dense atlas
Boys, idk if any of you are watching the MDI, but out of three matches there hasn’t been a single run without a PWAR
uneven mason
Shield slam is
pale rock
You don’t use the shield slam + IP macro?
Where do i find that?
rose flicker
Where do i find that?
Pins
uneven mason
Boys, idk if any of you are watching the MDI, but out of three matches there has...
To be expected, they've been perfecting their runs using pwar for month
It's hard to replace rally and battle
sick sentinel
Slam isn't used
Thank you, so what’s your filler while shield slam is down and revenge isn’t proc’d
uneven mason
Thank you, so what’s your filler while shield slam is down and revenge isn’t pro...
Revenge
robust lark
Still saw them pull tree too far on stairs that felt bad to watch poor fellas
uneven mason
Our priority is SS TC revenge
sick sentinel
Revenge
Oh okay, someone told me to only use it when it was free. Maybe they’re wrong. Thanks
uneven mason
That's like trying to lick your own ear wrong
pale rock
Thats how my action bars look like i have shift bount to my mouse 1 to 6 are also on my mouse. The 12 Button layout is fatfinger city so i use my 7 button one
sick sentinel
That's like trying to lick your own ear wrong
Lmao, thanks
lusty tiger
That's like trying to lick your own ear wrong
Snake tongue
sick sentinel
Sometimes having rage problems but that’s because i’m only in my 20’s so everything is easy anyways and don’t really matter.
uneven mason
This is prot WE PRESS OUR FUCKING BUTTONS
sick sentinel
Appreciate the help.
tropic gorge
Boys, idk if any of you are watching the MDI, but out of three matches there has...
This pleases me greatly
I'm so, so happy to see pwar big dicking mdi
I'm also glad the field isn't all druids lmao
uneven mason
The more you press revenge the more you'll reset SS the more rage you'll have
To press revenge
robust lark
Thats how my action bars look like i have shift bount to my mouse 1 to 6 are al...
I bound my side mouse buttons to Ctrl 1-= so I can still use shift 1-6 independently
sick sentinel
The more you press revenge the more you'll reset SS the more rage you'll have
Makes sense, thanks lol
uneven mason
Oh at 20
lusty tiger
Lol
pale rock
if use the ip shield slam macro can i remove one of them from my bar?
lusty tiger
if use the ip shield slam macro can i remove one of them from my bar?
The macro replaces ip keybind
uneven mason
....I think I still don't have a goblin war
tropic gorge
Level as prot, pull half the zone and power level
uneven mason
I've leveled over 40 since classic did a hmt in preparch
tropic gorge
Prot leveling is kinda slow sometimes for me. But being unkillable is such a good feeling
uneven mason
Should do another iirc I did a no heirloom run and discovered there isn't any shields
lusty tiger
Grey shield lol
uneven mason
Literally was 35 and finally gave up and grabbed my heirloom
lusty tiger
Had to hit up the armourer at razor hill
tropic gorge
Grey shield lol
Do this for challenge mode
uneven mason
Grey shield lol
I had like a level 13 shield
lusty tiger
RIP
Iv been leveling my shaman with sland heirloom int maces as enhance
Just got actual weapons lol
Right now timewalking is a phenomenal way to level
sick sentinel
monk tank about to show in mdi
pale rock
Do i need demo shout if i have it macrod to avatar?
lusty tiger
Do i need demo shout if i have it macrod to avatar?
u need separate keybinds for all CDs
pale rock
damit i would need one more for my stance macro if run out easy acessibly keys
tropic gorge
Right now timewalking is a phenomenal way to level
Tw is really good for leveling and gearing alts
grave wedge
where is the spell reflect cheat sheet
lusty tiger
pins
grave wedge
thats what i thought but i cant seem to find it atm
warm plinth
Look for Sense's message
Also the spreadsheet is in #268491842637660160. It just only has an updated link in the arms and fury sections lol
analog sparrow
What do you normally drop to pick up the challenging shout ae interrupt talent?
lusty tiger
What do you normally drop to pick up the challenging shout ae interrupt talent?
why are you trying to use the aoe kick?
it is really only used on dathea
steep wraith
Good on 2nd boss trash area in nok too
celest aurora
Hello again guys, Im a mag'har orc, is it smart to macro in the racial which is a 2min cd into avatar? and just use it on CD or with Avatar?
lusty tiger
Hello again guys, Im a mag'har orc, is it smart to macro in the racial which is ...
macro on avatar- avatar is ~35 sec CD so u shouldnt miss racial casts too often
alternatively u can macro it to more abilities if youre worried about missing uses
celest aurora
Ohh thought its 2min or 1,5min cd
lusty tiger
avatar?
celest aurora
yea
lusty tiger
nah not w a proper rotation
lusty tiger
macro it with all you Cds
it is off gcd so it shouldnt hurt u
only ensures more uses
celest aurora
Maybe with thunder clap then? something i use often
pale rock
i hava avatar,demo shout, racial and trinket macrod together
lusty tiger
whatever u want man
my ss macro is:
pot
avatar
blazebinder hoof
ss
sb
i dont even use my brain anymore
im light a light reactive monera
looking at a log
i gotta add my racial to that
i must have it bound to avatar which i rarely press manually
uneven mason
my ss macro is:
pot
avatar
blazebinder hoof
ss
sb
This is my forward key
lusty tiger
the worst part about that macro is occasionally i waste my blazebinder
north orchid
Does anyone have any recommendations on offensive tank trinkets? I’ve got Decoration of Flame and Icon (with plenty of other people in my raid also having it) but I’m looking for something that’ll bring more dps
lusty tiger
Does anyone have any recommendations on offensive tank trinkets? I’ve got Decora...
there is a square
lemme draW
north orchid
Also once you have all 5 tier set items you drop gloves for M+ gloves right?
uneven mason
Does anyone have any recommendations on offensive tank trinkets? I’ve got Decora...
Alltotem, whetstone, hoof, shell
uneven mason
Also once you have all 5 tier set items you drop gloves for M+ gloves right?
Use whatever is highest ilvl
north orchid
Shell? Dang it. Heard that was dog water so I sold it ages ago
uneven mason
Little adorable dude nukes for 6 digits, also bis adorable
north orchid
Nice. Pretty sure mine was from way early so prolly really low ilevel
uneven mason
Like having a kitten barf thermite hairballs
north orchid
I’ll have to snag one of those. I assume that means flipping to fury or arms for my loot spec
north orchid
Thanks
potent elbow
Which training we do on ruby whelp trinket?
uneven mason
I’ll have to snag one of those. I assume that means flipping to fury or arms for...
As long as you have a good 1h and shield you should be running DPS lootspec because the defensive items are 
north orchid
Yeah I’m 418/415 on 1h/shield. No reason to run prot loot spec anymore I guess
north orchid
Not at this point. Still grinding up
uneven mason
celest aurora
my ss macro is:
pot
avatar
blazebinder hoof
ss
sb
Wait so, SS, SB, Avatar, all those can go in one macro?
severe hound
Tips to live 3rd boss in TJS? The serpent
+24 then just now and couldn’t live
Soul stone + 2 Brez not enough
celest aurora
Im so confused atm haha
deft mortar
im going stormbolt now
but still no shockwave
the idea of spending a talent point on ET makes me wanna puke
celest aurora
To what macros to make and what to not macro etc
What i've found is avatar + d shout , ill make a cursor macro for ravager, and i use blizz's mouseover so everything is mouseover xD
vernal vale
Lol, I mean after the cluster that was an "organized" group I'd be super nervous to pug M Teros
bleak skiff
Hello guys, can I ask why isnt my auto marker working anymore? I even updated him
Oh yea , mb
stark furnace
Crit haste or haste vers on crafted gear?
lusty tiger
Im so confused atm haha
Don’t use macros if you don’t know exactly how they work
pale rock
For what do i use shockwave and Stormbolt?
fallow nova
Interrupting problematic casts
vernal vale
Crit haste or haste vers on crafted gear?
I like crit but all things equal verse and crit are about equal.
echo egret
"Strike Twice" sword, what is it worth ?
pale rock
Interrupting problematic casts
So i have technically 2 interupts?
fallow nova
3 if you take intimidating shout
It's another aoe interrupt
Also Pummel is your default one
Especially for things that cannot be stunned
fallow nova
Isn't it basically equal in stats so it edges out to top due to its effect?
pale rock
What is the use of stormbolt?
turbid shuttle
single target stop
tropic tangle
yeah, plenty of stuff out there that you can't pummel but want to stop
oblique quarry
I can't decide between 408 boon, 408 all totem and 411 blazehoof for m+ - what would you guys run?
tropic tangle
all totem and something else
solemn current
Be a man and pair it with boon
Except for a few dungeons where you’d struggle to get use out of it like CoS, temple, AV etc. it’s good in SBG, NO, RLP, AA imo
wind lotus
thoughts on BDK vs. prot pal? my group is hurting for a bres and i was thinking of leveling something up
oblique quarry
i love my blood dk, prot pal is up in the air until the pally rework
tropic tangle
prot pal is strong
think bdk still suffers some from low damage, but they're basically immortal on bosses
dapper vapor
Prot paladin is super good but much harder
BDK is much easier to just get online and be useful with imo
Both harder than warr obv
chilly brook
Both harder than warr obv
Are they though?
I’ve seen some of y’all’s blocked hits
vernal vale
I’ve seen some of y’all’s blocked hits
I mean I can get super solid blocked hits and still be told I'm taking too much damage.... so... the average evaluation of skill out there is insane.
vernal vale
Fair enough.
You missed out earlier. I got booted from my team for taking too much damage. Nomerators pinned build is wrong and prot discord analysis of my play is wrong.
Actual reply to me from the raid leads @chilly brook
chilly brook
Wut…..
Tf kinda guild is this?
Lemme guess? World 1500?
@vernal vale lmfao second lowest healing required from the entire raid
Basically double the DKs dps
Tf more do they want
So many knuckle dragging grey parsers
vernal vale
Lol, apparently to and I quote. "Be a tank that just doesn't die."
Yet they will not heal me for a straight 20sec on a fight.
chilly brook
vernal vale
They have only ever had monks and dks in the past so they really don't understand prot warrior at all
Needless to say I was leaving after last night but they booted me before I got a chance.
chilly brook
If you get booted it’s likely they just dislike you
Not normal for a “failed” trial
vernal vale
I've been with the team all tier suddenly they started complaining.
tropic tangle
they're doing you a favor, aren't all the officers RL friends?
chilly brook
I've been with the team all tier suddenly they started complaining.
Did they just now kill sennarth?
vernal vale
they're doing you a favor, aren't all the officers RL friends?
They are doing me a favor lol no idea on if they are friends
dark lark
Aside from Broodkeeper there isn't that much that is going to kill a prot warrior. If anything you guys are probably fucking up swaps
Which isn't a class or build issue
vernal vale
Did they just now kill sennarth?
Yeah last night was the first sennarth kill
dark lark
Hot shitters
chilly brook
What are they afraid of?
vernal vale
Who tf private logs when they’re just now killing sennarth?
Apparently a friend of mine who's not on the team can still view the logs so not sure why I cannot see them
vernal vale
I mean I admit when I'm fucking up. I didn't do perfect on my blocks last week. I swapped to bolster to go comfy on the shield block uptime
slim dove
so they just blankly said your not playing at 100%, gave 0 critique besides "your shit, get better"
vernal vale
so they just blankly said your not playing at 100%, gave 0 critique besides "you...
No what they said was I die too easy.
slim dove
yeah thats not a critique.
vernal vale
That's logs from last night.
slim dove
you took half the damage of your co-tank for starters.
vernal vale
I didn't play perfect on terros I'll admit but the wipes where not really a me thing.
slim dove
your doing 13k more dps then him, hes fucking parsing gray as bdk lmao
vernal vale
As for thr few kurog pulls I just couldn't care to try at that point. I wasn't staying on the team but they booted me before I had a chance to leave
slim dove
yeah your not being healed just looking at the healer
they assume prot war = god and never needs a single heal
your prevoker did nothing but heal himself and your bdk.
slim dove
it really is.
vernal vale
all those critiques where given last week here but i was told the critiques of the prot warrior discord don't matter
slim dove
but i dont want to shit on his co-tank
ohh you were here last week
right
where your healers literally dont heal you
chilly brook
It’s not really about shitting on the cotank
It’s just so uneven
The blame being levied that is
tropic tangle
like, you've got a druid that healed you for a whopping 900 HPS over the whole fight lol
tropic tangle
didn't even bother to HOT you
slim dove
bring back hard enrages and dps checks on every fight smh
vernal vale
where your healers literally dont heal you
yeah
sick sentinel
slim dove
is it fun 
sick sentinel
personally like it more than war
theres more things you can do
rotation wise
lets just say i copy pasted my pwar WA and change spell names as i level
by like 66 its pretty much the same
i think vicotry rush is the only thing left
i mean
chilly brook
Prot pally is eh
sick sentinel
this is like 70% why people like prot pal at cutting edge keys
chilly brook
Unless something majorly changed
sick sentinel
and this is the other 30%
everything else is inline utility
freedom etc
also you can do impossible pulls with bubble taunt
chilly brook
But tbh holy power is bleh
sick sentinel
i dont think prot pally come close to pwar in terms of regular tankiness and damage
but the utility is insanely broken rn
chilly brook
Questionable comment
chilly brook
You definitely needed a lot of interrupts in SL
slim dove
legion didn't need this much kick/stops and organization outside of cringe tyr weeks
like DHT on tyr was a mess.
chilly brook
Brother
sick sentinel
let me show you
chilly brook
You also ran out of interrupts in pulls in HoA
sick sentinel
but you had be
anyway
this thing does not have a cd
which means everytime your interrupt's silence times out
chilly brook
but you had be
?
sick sentinel
itll start casting again
chilly brook
Blood elf didn’t silence in SL