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mighty valley
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i run whetstone always, currently have the world boss trinket but begging for an alltotem

pallid quiver
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i know the pain, harrow

potent harbor
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hmm hmm

mighty valley
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in dungeons where the blocker is one hard tyran boss, sometimes spiteful storm

timber terrace
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totem has been really underwhelming when i played with it

potent harbor
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so whet/idol?

timber terrace
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the proc was barely doing 3-4% of my damage

potent harbor
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hoof is kinda nice but whetstone always do like triple more aoe dmg

mighty valley
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totem also has stat buffs on top of the raw damage procs

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3-4% of damage + stat buffs + defensive benefit is an overall great package

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whetstone is just insane, i was running hoof before and whetstone just obliterates it

timber terrace
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i like whetstone for the snap aggro when you pull

potent harbor
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yep yep i have both and hoof is rly weaker i mean okay it gives str stacking which icnrease ur parry,m but dmg diff is too big

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@timber terrace oh ye thats insane ye ye

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btw what totem u talk about?

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oh kurog?

timber terrace
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yeah

potent harbor
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sounds cool

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what about deco of flame?

timber terrace
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it's really weak tbh the absorb is small and the damage isn't that great

potent harbor
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and fullyhaste stacked ruby whelp? which proc like3k haste?

left beacon
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I use big wigs and i swore it called out when dark claw was happening, maybe it was when i had dbm but swapped over not sure. Anyone who uses bigwigs does it call this out or no?

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I only say this bc i think lately mine feels a bit bugged out in a lot of dungeons

potent harbor
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it does tb sound for me and thats it

potent harbor
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its like ding sound ye like when boss does TB

left beacon
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alright thanks

potent harbor
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ye fucking dark claw

nocturne spindle
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is there ever an ilvl difference that would be worth breaking 4-set bonus for?

potent harbor
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somestimes even spell reflect, spell bloc, spell reflect, all other mits, spell reflect is not enough with pugs

timber terrace
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i forgot i had my heroic cache

potent harbor
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@nocturne spindle wqith catalysts theres not evne need of thinking about it even if prot is ur off spec its still 415 set piece minimum jsut with incorrectr stats if its off spec

timber terrace
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this game is ez

potent harbor
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better say with catalyst valor uncapped combo

nocturne spindle
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i know eventually with the catalysts i get it be like im assuming even from LFR gloves to 415 mythic gloves its worth keeping the set til i can change it?

potent harbor
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u propably do low keys with that gear anyway so there u can do whatever u want as prot warr i swear u can go naked below 15 keys 🙂

frank dust
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is 4 set massive

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for prot war

potent harbor
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i find it super synergystic but dont even know correect numbers how much it does from my IP, lets say i do mediocre 25M IP during one dungeon, i would like to know how much from it is that passive addition

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like what i love about it it kidna benefit ur ofeensive playstyle(when u for exmaple pop defensive mitigation and go battle stance with ur big cdcs for big offensive) u kinda do more dmg - more dmg equals more ip stacking, so it kinda rewards u for playing offesnive when u can play offensive rather then sit whole time in def stance

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at leats its how i feel about it

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but i dont know correct numbers just love that idea of that set

round pendant
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👀

potent harbor
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but theoretically if i do around 65-75 mil dmg per dung so lets say my uptime of buff is like 90 percent of time plus i have whole that time ip up(which is kinda realistic), u take 5 percent of that and u are on 3 milion IP from set bonus, well not so big, but nice addition

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but dont forget on brutal vitality

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which adds another 10

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so u end on rly nice numbers

sick sentinel
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how do i get out of combat mythic batle for dazar first boss

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i forgot this shit can happen

frank dust
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do you run spell block in nokhud

daring marlin
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nah

sick sentinel
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have to contact gm again?

warm plinth
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It's a talent that just happens to be insanely strong for that one mechanic tbf.

strong forum
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heartstone out

warm plinth
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Please tell me that's a raid build

spice pilot
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What's good % shield block uptime in avr a key?

strong forum
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99 with HR
87+ with ITF

spice pilot
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if the tank i play with

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messages me this

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is this bad

strong forum
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no

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HR is better

spice pilot
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nono if he's been running into the fray

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for all keys

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since dragonflight launched

sick sentinel
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ITF is fine imo

strong forum
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i mean if he gets by with it, sure, but HR nets better defensive results

last mason
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do u guys have success doing the triple pull in hov off the start

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in pugs

sick sentinel
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as long as hes not doing 24 keys

strong forum
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if hes dying cuz of SB downtime

spice pilot
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its

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22-23 keys

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we've been doing

fickle gull
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depends on the level of ur haste afaik; if u dont have enough haste, you could def run that talent

strong forum
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especially on bosses ITF will be weaker

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i dont recommend to play ITF

last mason
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how

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my groups wipe every time

warm plinth
fickle gull
warm plinth
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You run ItF when you have high haste, not when you have low haste.

round pendant
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mate this tank is telling me to pump less so I stop stealing aggro from him

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I'm so fucking annoyed

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JUST TAUNT IT'S NOT HARD

fickle gull
warm plinth
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Does he not taunt?

rose cobalt
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Get interrupt on first thundercaller then pull to dragon stun 2nd thundercaller shockwave them both on next cast

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As long as they die first there's no way for your team to die

vital oak
pallid quiver
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bold of you to assume the party won't dive into dragon's breath

rose cobalt
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No strategy will fix being an idiot critcake

strong forum
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aim the dragon towards the boss

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surely

pallid quiver
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I still do the pull, anyway; pretty sure it's still faster even if the entire party runs all the fucking way to the boss just to get hit

strong forum
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nobody will stand closer towards the boss than you

pallid quiver
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ah

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nome thought he beat me to it

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but never underestimate the lack of willingness to live in your average pug

vital oak
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seems like 2 dps (always the monk) come stand on me to clear and then don't move with me when the breath comes

strong forum
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what

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you shouldnt clear on tank

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thats suicide

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always dps with healer and dps with dps

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in 90%++ of cases

pallid quiver
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... bold of you to assume dps know or even want to clear

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their dam, bro

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they gotta PUMP

strong forum
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cant dam if floor

pallid quiver
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as long as they get you killed, it's fine

vital oak
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They seem to be unable to see behind them where they could clear on the heals/ranged so run to me.

pallid quiver
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details only shows active 🙂

last mason
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Idk my pugs can’t handle doing explosives and kicking 2 casters at the same time so

rose cobalt
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What level of key are you doing

last mason
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20-21

rose cobalt
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I hit probably half of the orbs myself with throw

last mason
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But then I feel like I can’t backpeddle the melee mobs bc I need to be in range of orbs

rose cobalt
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You're probably moving more than you have to if that's the case

slow harbor
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is it particularly hard for disc priests to get explosives as a spec?

strong forum
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not harder than any other healer

slow harbor
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Bastard man...

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full NO run

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lel

last mason
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Would never play with a disc priest

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Just don’t trust

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Not a spec for the avg player

slow harbor
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He's living the Ragnaros server stereotype for sure

hardy magnet
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Is it worth getting Bitter Immunity in the war tree for Crawth and bleed shit, and what would you drop for it if you did?

vital oak
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I guess I don't pug enough to know server stereotypes, what is the word on ragnaros?

strong forum
daring marlin
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everyone should just be the best race

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DORF

sick sentinel
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once again, yogi has been sent to the nether realm

hardy magnet
sick sentinel
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and i cannot release, in dazar alor, "the light judges all"

hardy magnet
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ty though

daring marlin
last mason
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It is

daring marlin
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madlad

thick rivet
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can void slash be reflected

daring marlin
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negative

spark cedar
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I've been going comfortably on haste/crit prio so far but i feel extremely squishy in fortified AA that I fidn myself going defensive stance relatively often. Any chad haste/crit stackers rocking pure bstance (except for tank busters) this week comfortably?

final fox
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So my guild lost one of our tanks recently due to changes in work schedule and I'm learning to tank to take the spot. I keep seeing in guides and stuff people tanking in battle stance over defensive stance. Should battle be the default and only use defensive if I'm getting rocked? Lemme know if this is a dumb question

daring marlin
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Dstance is good for giga tankbusters and that's about it

final fox
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okay thanks!

frank dust
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should i upgrade strike twice

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if i have a 392 crafted sword

strong forum
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the things that hurt you in AA:
a) severing slash, bleed from axe, look out for it, CC it/outrange it/dwarf it
b) surge ( rarely casts on you ), interruptible
c) vexamus tanks buster, crawth tankbuster, use CDs, nothing else you can do
d) arcane missile, interruptible
e) poison from tree boss adds, get dispelled, kill em quick

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thats it

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besides C, theyre all avoidable

sick sentinel
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tornadoes from the tornadoe man suck

strong forum
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well dont tank those, lol

warm plinth
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You can't really outrange the axe but it is parryable so

sick sentinel
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huge hit and a stun

warm plinth
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I mean you can if you like...heroic leap

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But it's not a simple backstep like most

sick sentinel
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cant tank shit atm

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stuck dazar

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no relese

warm plinth
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But you can just stun it or whatever to put it on cd

strong forum
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log onto diff char

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youll get teleported out of the instance after a while

warm plinth
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did you try hearthing?

sick sentinel
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dead logged off, tried automated, it only put me to infront of the door

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like, inside infront of the door, in combat still

frank dust
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should i upgrade strike twice if i have a crafted weapon

strong forum
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no

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ilvl wins

daring marlin
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I wouldn't upgrade a weapon tbh

spark cedar
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I did two +20s one with rdruid one with rshammy and felt extremely squishy with shammy that i sit on dstance. I usually just switched dstance on those u listed but perhaps we were lacking cc as well i guess since I don't run with premades so shit is always weird in pugs. Both of those runs didn't focus skitterflies so started getting popped :S

frank dust
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what if crafted sword isnt ilvl

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just take strike twice as ilvl upgrade until i can upgrade crafted piece?

strong forum
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then its up to you if you want to spend a bazillion valor

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to upgrade a temporary weapon

frank dust
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mm ok i wont upgrade

strong forum
warm plinth
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Though tbh, you shouldn't really feel like you have to sit in dstance because of the spec the healer is in a 20.

frank dust
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what is the upgrade order, is it like trinkets, rings, and anything like bracers or boots

warm plinth
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Sounds like maybe the shaman just sucked

spark cedar
strong forum
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but valor gets uncapped next week

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so you can just degen farm to your hearts content

sick sentinel
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shield is only 250 a tap

strong forum
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yeah but its easy to just get a crafted one instead

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and not spend any valor on it

sick sentinel
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i got no idea how long the timer is supposed to be, but i seem to recall this isnt first time i got stuck like this

strong forum
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just log off for like an hour

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min 15min to be safe

frank dust
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what are bis dungeon trinkets

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whetstone, scale

strong forum
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whetstone

frank dust
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is that really it

strong forum
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not scale lol

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just whetstone

sick sentinel
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only thing im scared of is i log in 10 am tomorrow

frank dust
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oh ok

sick sentinel
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then have to puit in a ticket

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so pre-emptively put it in just in case

frank dust
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what happens at 10 am tomorrow

sick sentinel
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well, if i waited in good faith till then, my ticket would be behind in line

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and i probably wouldn't get on till 5 pm

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feels like one of those problem wont magic itself away, much as i like.

strong forum
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once your character despawns in the world

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it should reset

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but you need to be logged out for a prolonged time for that to happen

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usually 15minutes

sick sentinel
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i'll give it a shot i guess

frank dust
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is it like worth just spamming court for the trinket

strong forum
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yes

frank dust
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aight

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well

strong forum
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also for the ring

frank dust
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ik what im going to e doing

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did i make a mistake crafting titanic insight

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or is it like a long term investment thing

strong forum
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that stuff is to increase your likelyhood of crafting a higher ranked item

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so its not a waste if you yourself craft items

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but theyre quite costly

frank dust
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i had someone else craft the ring for me

strong forum
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you cant use the insight on other peoples crafts

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only if you do it yourself

frank dust
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ro

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titanic insight

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the ring

strong forum
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ah that

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sure thats fine

lucid dew
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I finally got an icon at 408. Would you run whetstone icon or whetstone decoration of flame

sick sentinel
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to put it simply for you, the amount of stars the desired item needs the crafter to have alot of points in that thing, and then also a high skilllvl for the pofession

strong forum
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icon

sick sentinel
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like, if i only have 5 points in bracers craft your still only gunna get 2 or 3 rank even though im 100 bs skill base

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so you want to find someone who specialized in what you are after

thick rivet
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30% base haste, worth taking into the fray?

vernal sky
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If healer and 1 dd have it it's pretty high value

lucid dew
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They don’t right now I have been the first to get it

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They are trying though

round pendant
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Spiteful Storm is worth needing on right?

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I have grieftorch and whetstone

frank dust
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is rumbling rubyt a good trinket

round pendant
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idk why I'm parsing 85-95 on other bosses and then.. 67 on raz

daring marlin
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check wcl and see what others are doing that you're not

round pendant
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I think raz is a little skewed because

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82 ilvl %, but 67 overall

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I guess there's significantly more higher ilvl players doing hc raz

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still, disappointed in 82 parse sadga

daring marlin
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good chance that's the case, yeah

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408 neck with speed from weekly on my pally alt

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kms

round pendant
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I fucked my opener up too

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also forgot to pot again mid fight

sick sentinel
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okay, so nome is correct

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the timer is 20 minutes (thats what i waited at least, based on, it takes 20 minutes of no action to get AFK logged out) and then it lets you release

potent harbor
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wait i play ITF whole time, is HR rly that better? have to try , guess 4k haste is enough anway

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totaly forgot on HR lulz

sick sentinel
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if you have 40% haste before ITF, it beats HR

frank dust
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do you ever take barbaric training

median tulip
sick sentinel
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@warm plinth

potent harbor
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@sick sentinel 40 percent haste? i have 26 with 4k how u can have 40

violet flume
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maybe haste every slot with high ilevel?

warm plinth
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You can't. That's the point.

violet flume
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prob cant

sick sentinel
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fuck loads of gear gems enchants

violet flume
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spitting on 10% haste seems like a big dps loss though

sick sentinel
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there is at least 2 trinkets i can thihk of off hand haste, blaze hoof and alchemy alcarity tribket

potent harbor
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well u dont have that 10 percent so often tbh on other hand

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bosses especially on tyra takes half of dungeon time

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and then u kinda do sometimes 3 adds pulls

violet flume
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fair enough, maybe ITF for fort and HR for tyra?

sick sentinel
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so at 421 hoof and 418 crafted thung im assuming thats about 1750 passive hast max ish

violet flume
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i did notice you have 100% shield block uptime on the start of a pull for a while even with ITF, you lose uptime as mobs die

pallid quiver
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Haste isn't even particularly strong as an offensive stat alone; it's not that much more offensive gain when you have it in comparison to the loss of SB uptime

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it's why when you sim, it'll sometimes look you in the eye and just go "ey, start stacking mastery boss"

sick sentinel
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except for us mastery is worthless

frank dust
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my haste feels so low

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its at 16%

spark cedar
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dunno how the fuck osmeone gets to 40

potent harbor
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@spark cedar i dont even think its worth i rly think it has some kind of dimnishing return ocne u go upper then 30 meaning other stats become to have higher value

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like u want to have also some vers and some crit and some mastery(maybe?) to some degree

sick sentinel
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if someone can get 8000 points into mastery and have 75% passive, 100 blocled hits through shield charge, id be impressed

daring marlin
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I like my stat spread

potent harbor
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hmm i have to try that HR, from common sense perspective havin perma uptime on shield block and kinda more rage sounds rly nice

pallid quiver
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The more rage also spins into damage, as well, especially when you outburst shield slams,

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As that extra rage is included in the outburst

potent harbor
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i mean i can kinda imagine playing HR with combination with ruby whelp shell 3k haste stat proccing

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and second trinket ofc whetstone

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or even keep hoof for some static haste hmm hmm well we will see

frank dust
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is it bad that i only have 16% haste

round pendant
frank dust
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idk how to fix it besides just getting more gear

amber siren
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If that's what your highest ilvl pieces are then that's just how it is, not a huge deal

round pendant
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next week it'll be easy to fix

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run M+ to get haste/vers or haste/crit gear

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upgrade them

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I wonder how much to pull on algethar on fortified

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🤔

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Nothing's particularly scary if people just kick the scepters and books, right?

pallid quiver
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Especially if it's any piece with Str or the only source of some stat, such as block value, in which case those are worth more than optimizing for specific secondaries by a long shot

frank dust
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mmm ok

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i was planning on upgrading my shield right away

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and i have another one so idk what to upgrade next

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lariat, belt, main hand, or ring

cursive needle
frank dust
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no

cursive needle
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You can craft pieces too and get the correct missive to guarantee the stats. That will help as well.

frank dust
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no im kinda poor

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i have 5 crafted pieces with haste crit

undone verge
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we get a giga upgrade tonight

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haste crit 418 boots replacing 402 boots

daring marlin
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massive

round pendant
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+16 AV, should I do any fancy skips?

amber siren
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nah just hold w

frank dust
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wahjt is the website to see talents and shit

undone verge
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warcraft logs, raiderio, wowhead, etc

naive panther
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and fifth character with heroic all totem complete

last mason
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whats the mongo tank dmg that the blazebounds in rlp do sometimes

amber siren
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Inferno?

thick rivet
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😂 i love playing prot lol

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almost 100% shield block uptime with into the fray in low keys

round pendant
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Damn I have like, all of the trinkets

thick rivet
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i wanna try boon so badly

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does block still work in boon

round pendant
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Yeah it's not a channel

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you're just rooted for 10 secs

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I'm so tired of losing my fucking mouse cursor

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when I'm trying to click explosives

frank dust
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why an u getting declined from low keys

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wtf

naive panther
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I run itf in most keys. I swapped it off last week on a run or two last week.

torpid junco
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how is running boon for us

mighty valley
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good damage, just know when you're allowed to use it

torpid junco
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thinking about running boon and whetstone

vestal torrent
neat parrot
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why wouldnt you drop one handed spec and for Sonic boom in forti weeks ?

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its just a question, the stun is superusefull when mobs stay alive for a shit ton of time, and why wouldnt we go for sonic boom then ? Mention: i tried it in 22 aa and rlp and it did great dmg, somewhere arround 7-9% of my dmg dealt

amber siren
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Dropping one handed spec is a big drop in damage and leech, and turning your AoE stun into a damage CD you need to send on CD is going to run you into stun DR troubles

neat parrot
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aham, ye 5% dmg and leech is good increas, but at least that sonic boom has to be good in dungeons with packs like nokhud and aa ?

amber siren
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If you want to go bigger AoE damage, get uproar

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You're going to troll your team turning your CC into a damage CD

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One handed spec isn't negotiable though, that's 5% melee damage across all your abilities

last mason
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i swear halls is unpuggable

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pugs cant handle triple pull

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and if they can hyrja shoves her spear up their ass

cerulean tusk
# last mason and if they can hyrja shoves her spear up their ass

My solution is to mark thunder caller or mystic with skull. Once I make sure there is only one in total I pull next, then blast through. The gigapull Infront of hyrja is not scary at all, if the TC and RC is basically dead when ya go.

Tldr: let pugs handle 1 caster and kill it, you pull additional anything yourself can stop.

mighty valley
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i don't pug much but if i did i'd keep it all simple

last mason
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they cant even heal hyrja tho

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and ya i stopped doing any real big pull

cerulean tusk
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Do you desync hyrja?

last mason
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no bc i havent practiced the timing

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and idk if the pugs would even know what im doing

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but tbh should i have to on 20-21s

cerulean tusk
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Go and practise - pugs don't need to know

last mason
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just had a mistweaver who couldnt even heal the first one with lust

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there are so many pain points in the dungeon

cerulean tusk
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Use rally and they should be fine ez this week. Once first is over it is free

scenic mural
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What is desyncing hyrja?

cerulean tusk
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YouTube it. But in short, if you move her at 4 sec timing from a to b, she uses thunder while holy empowered and holy while thunder empowered.

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Makes it a lot more manageable okayge

cinder storm
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The timing is a very close window, really worth of you can pull it off but it's better to practice in m0

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You have to heroic throw then taubt so your details starts to count the fight but it feels like the window is 3.9-4.4

hearty terrace
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What’s Prot like Purely pugging? I only pug and just want to know if Prot is like meta in Groups or is it still meta in Pugs ? 🙂

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“Meta”

sick sentinel
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I was healing a prot warrior tank, but he had like 55% shield block uptime.
Isn't that quite low?

sick sentinel
hearty terrace
sick sentinel
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That's a bit dependent on the dungeon and team. I like melee comps, thus if no warrior DPS, I like warrior tank for their buff.

A paladin tank cleansing debuffs can be great in some places.

DKs are hit or miss for me. Some feel godly others paper thin.

I usually don't pick guardian druid as a druid myself, bringing the vers buff.

hearty terrace
sick sentinel
cloud umbra
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Warrior if you want to be invulnerable, pally if you want to carry all the interrupts/mechanics of pug groups , dk if you really like them. Their play style is fun if you can deal with the yo-yoing

sick sentinel
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warrior is pretty far from invulnerable

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the only edge warrior has over dk rn is damage

elfin ginkgo
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Hey all! Can anyone help me? I have a tendency to lose aggro when pakcs are spread (i.e. HoV pack 1, AV pack 3 <the trees>) Can anyone explain to me what the best way to get and keep aggro on these spread packs is?

hearty terrace
sick sentinel
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Currently playing night elf resto druidess

graceful cobalt
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hi i have 4peaces (Head/Shoulder/ Legs/Hands ) and T-Set Chest 395 or 395 Dathea´s chest wich one is better

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and how good is the alchy stone (haste)

jagged pier
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📉

ivory vessel
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yo why are Kul Tiran with their racial brush it off OR Mechagnome with Combat analysis + Emergency Failsafe dont get mentioned more as best tank races

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Instead dwarf seems the most picked, can anybody explain why

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Like those racials seem much bigger than dwarfs stoneform

amber siren
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Because nearly every major tankbuster right now is a dot

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Which dwarves can remove

graceful cobalt
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wich chest is better T-Set 395 or Dathea´s 395?

amber siren
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Sim it

graceful cobalt
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cannot sim becouse raidbot stucks by my setup

amber siren
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Gonna have to fix it then

ivory vessel
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not for tanks but in general

tepid raptor
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Pack before last boss in TJS

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how the fk do i manage it at +19

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aggro and run away?

sick sentinel
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gotta hard cc and ignore the haunting, and then pray tp jesus

tepid raptor
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xd

rough egret
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Jusr blast them

tepid raptor
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i survive tanking it 20 sec

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then gotta run

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or so

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maybe 40 sec

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but it hsould be done with BL right?

amber siren
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Rotate your CD's, make sure you're using spellblock, after CDs are gone and they're still alive you'd need to kite

rough egret
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Yes ideally

amber siren
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Lusting that pack is a good idea

sick sentinel
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that teash pack ia gross, because the center big sha make tons and tons of little adds

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on fort though, pretty much required to cc haunting, on tyranical you just blaster them yeah

spark girder
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what flask do you guys use?

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for m+*

rough egret
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Vers/ eye of storm

sick sentinel
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i use rank 2 versas peesonally for mythic + over all

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for cost to effectiveness

spark girder
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ok ty

rough egret
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On fort weeks i use eye

spark girder
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and bufffood besides banquette

rough egret
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Fortune cookie

sick sentinel
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again, depends on the dungeon, how big ypur pulls are

spark girder
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at the moment my gear is shit

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i have like all 5 crafted items and full blues

sick sentinel
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in hov, eye woups b3 a bot dumb almost

spark girder
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362 gs :D

sick sentinel
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only like 3 pulls your are pulling 5 or more enemy

spark girder
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yep

bold turret
sick sentinel
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i was finding this week i need to seperate hyrja stairs trash

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if i pulled all 5, we wiped

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so only pulled first 2 on stairs, then 3, worked out alot better

topaz drift
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usually pull 2 on stairs with the previos pack, then kill 3 with mini boss (chain after caster dead if worried) - i mean mini mini boss not the 2 preboss ones lol

sick sentinel
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sucks i have to break it down and baby pull, butn8f it means i time key, sure

rough egret
#

New cursors in 10.0.7. Nice we gettin to HD 😄

sick sentinel
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the interact one

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change that one first

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i bump my cursor size to be as big as a meatloaf, and the interact one blown up has about 7 pixels total compared to the glove thing

rough egret
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Glowe was also updated

solemn island
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hey friends, quick Q. At high keys do we just alwways go double shield wall ? at around 22-23 i am starting to feel it way stronger than the shiled slam one ( sometimes 1 pack needs 2xshield wall and the next ones are just afk)

rough egret
amber siren
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It should be coming up every minute

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Roundabout depending on procs

spark girder
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are there any quality of life makros out there? didnt find any

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besides leap and stuff

solemn island
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the marker one is pretty good and usefull

spark girder
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marker one? :o

solemn island
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A one-button macro that puts down a unique world marker where your cursor is in Mythic+ dungeons.

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spark girder
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ty

true hound
sick sentinel
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30 gold each adds up fast

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might have to end up start using the rank 3's but i seem to recall past few days they were bit less, could be mistaken

true hound
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Even less it looks like. 16g difference now.

sick sentinel
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i swear the other day i was picking them up for around 60

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i'd have to skim through out played which im much too lazy for

limpid oyster
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Hi guys! Im gonna to craft primal longsword, i would like to know which stats and emb i have to do. I guess Haste and Versa and then?

sick sentinel
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embellishment on weapon not required, i was piloting haemmer 402 with fangs addornment

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they cannot crit is 1 thing

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stats to use, haste + any (versa or crit reccomended)

limpid oyster
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Oh ok

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Thx mate!

tame comet
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hey guys kind of tired with protection

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thinking of trying out dh or blood dk, what would you recommend? mostly for m+

limpid oyster
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I have a DK blood and i love to play, very fun and a lot of utilities

sick sentinel
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BDK is very pug friendly for mythic + if you can stand the wheelchair aspect

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BDK is good until you realize you don't have charge or heroic leap any more, coming from if u re-roll from prot warrior

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you will be, where is my charge, and it doesn't exist

weary saddle
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i rolled a brm and i miss charge too

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i played BDK for 2 expansions. As BDK, your teammates will run ahead of you and you will be straggling behind.

sick sentinel
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BDK hp is too spikey for me

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if i play it im gunna have a fuckin hart attack

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i'm not young enough to be able to handle that random levels of stress like that no more

weary saddle
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u dont notice hp really, u will be focused on rotation

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anyway

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when i started protwar i missed the bdk's grip. i was like where is my grip oh no it doesnt exist

sick sentinel
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i dunno wtf his issue with it or haste is, but i played with a BDK for a very long time, and he strongly seems to dislike playing any talent build, spec or anything that involves stacking haste, or hard casting spells

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all 3 of us actually, the healer, the dk, and me, all 3 of us literal hate hard casting, shit, even the ret pally hates hard casting too that we ran together as

weary saddle
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haste is good for bdk protwar and protpally

sick sentinel
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we never ever play those classes ever except healer if he has to

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soon as this BDK has to use haste, hes not playing the game for some reason it seems

true hound
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What do you mean? Like how? Playing without haste feels like real life running with water up to your waist

sick sentinel
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as soon as he is faced with "you have to play haste and mash your buttons" he seems to quit for some reason is the best i can possibly imagination it.

true hound
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I main brew, and brew has base 1s gcd which can't be lowered, thus the no need for haste. So he'd basically not play brew because its too fast paced then?

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I went into an instance as mw the other day with 3% haste. It was like playing with one hand as mw base gcd is 1.5s which is the normal base gcd. At 3% it literally slows everything down by 50% compared to brew.

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You have a weird friend

sick sentinel
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you meet alot of strange people on the internet for sure

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really am going crazy about the phials prices, this is from 4 days ago

fallow nova
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Prot pally is cool and the utility is great, but sweet jesus if pony isn't available I feel like I'm crawling around on my hands and knees to get around

sick sentinel
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deathknight should also get ride horse and attack similiar ability

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and then, warrior can have lust and or standee after death

fallow nova
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War lust would be ultimate gg

sick sentinel
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way i stated it is, have to be battle or fury stance, 100 rage cost full lust,

fallow nova
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I'd take it in a heartbeat

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Pop it w/ cooldowns and I'll have my rage back in 2 or 3 gcds

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Been working on being more mindful about prioritizing ss resets over aoe and I swear half the time I'm having to dump into IP in between every attack I make

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The uptime on avatar is hilarious

amber siren
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That's exactly what you want okayge

somber sky
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Chat

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We jamming?

patent hull
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what's the best sim to run for m+, patchwerk 5 bosses?

fallow nova
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I thought that was what dungeon slice was for

lofty widget
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pwar doesnt have a dungeonslice apl so it's not accurate

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can sim aoe kinda just do like 5 mobs for 45-1.30 min and disable all buffs like lust etc

fallow nova
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Well it looks like I learned something today lol

stark jewel
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yo guys, I had to reset my game's interface recently, and now I dont see people's rio scores and specs in the dungeon group finder anymore

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if I remember correctly its a wa that does that

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or an addon

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but dont remember which

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if anyone can help me out thatd be awesome

fallen lichen
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I use an addon guild pgf, think it means personal group finder? But there should be loads of addons and/or weakauras doing the same thing

amber siren
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Yeah pgf does something pretty similar to what youre describing

fallen lichen
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Oh it means premade group filter. Dohh.

stark jewel
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found it, this is what i meant

sick sentinel
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thats a good one

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no more join a pug and find out, 4 warriors, 1mist monk for 16 AA

fallen lichen
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Pgf also let’s you sort on role, rio, etc.
Like: leader with at least 2400 score, keylevel 20-21, 0 tanks in grp, etc.

sick sentinel
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im always sorting by key lvl anyways or dungeon

fallen lichen
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Yup me too. But sometimes I set it to 0 tanks and 4 members so I can quickly fill that last spot

sick sentinel
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i just type in halls of valor, or, 15 if you do a number in your query, it will also show neighbouring numbers

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so if only thing you type in is 15, you will see 14's and 16's as well listed

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and then refresh over and over till i see one i like

patent hull
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3 to 5 target sim has the frostfire legs over belt and grieftorch/all-totem over whetstone.

elfin ginkgo
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Hey all! Can anyone help me? I have a tendency to lose aggro when pakcs are spread (i.e. HoV pack 1, AV pack 3 <the trees>) Can anyone explain to me what the best way to get and keep aggro on these spread packs is?

polar smelt
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Guys I got a question, I got the ruby whelp shell. Bloodmallet says for 3 targets I should go the AoE proc but for 5 targets haste is better. I only do m+, what do you suggest?

silent anchor
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anyone tanked M Brood yet?

sterile bough
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and once grouped po cds

astral crystal
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i'm on adds tho

silent anchor
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in p2

astral crystal
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we hit p2 like once, we've only had a night of prog on her

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but there's no CDs assigned for me

silent anchor
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or do you know of a video i can watch from a warr perspective on tanking it? since DK can just AMS every 2nd soak

astral crystal
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it'll be DK solo/DK and me for every tank buster

silent anchor
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u can double soak it?

astral crystal
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yes, it's only 400k dmg now

silent anchor
astral crystal
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should always have something for it

silent anchor
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this video looks like the warr takes 2 in a row

deep spruce
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Our tank died on progress the other day and i took 4 in a row

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died soon after the 4th, but not the actual hit

silent anchor
deep spruce
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I asked for externals yeah and i was playing double shield wall

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think i had nothing on first, sac bark second, bark third with wall, and then wall with sac from out ret

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something like that

silent anchor
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i guess its physical dmg, i aint overly looked into it yet haha but being asked too check shit so they can assign externals for every 2nd one i take

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wait, cant be since DK AMS it

deep spruce
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Nature damage

silent anchor
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ok, so spell block with SR will work nicely then

sick sentinel
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are we on 10.0.5 or are we on an earlier build, and then when is 10.0.7 supposed to be in relation to that

silent anchor
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we are in 10.0.5

sick sentinel
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apparently we are getting some VRS stuff in 10.0.7, tldr, magic makes computer render it faster some how?, its for sure a wizard did that stuff

silent anchor
astral crystal
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yeah bdk uses AMS to solo soak

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which is why you only help with every other

agile bear
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I'm tanking Broodkeeper mythic (boss tank) tonight as our MT is off. Any chance for some input on the build? I kinda want to have both Punish and Battle-scared Veteran (seeing I'm not fully optimized for tanking), but struggling to find the talent points for it.

What do you guys use for Broodkeeper?

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Not sure if it's optimal, but I wanted to find a point for battle-scared veteran

jagged pier
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u drop BB

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take tough as nails

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u also drop ITF and take HR as boss tank wants full block

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u wont have it otherwise

agile bear
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Great, thanks!

silent anchor
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ok so according too the google doc on here the p2 mechanic is spell blockable 😮

jagged pier
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u dont need it

agile bear
jagged pier
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it got nerfed

silent anchor
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yeah i know, but still negates the dmg right

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so i can make it easier

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not like the cost of ToN is big

jagged pier
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i mean spell block isnt a negate

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u still take damage

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and u have SW for everyone anyway

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or should

silent anchor
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yeah i will be taking every 2nd so near 2 mins apart

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but, having both up will hugely minimise the dmg.

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just trying too entertain the RL at this point ngl

silent anchor
jagged pier
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i mean u SR and SW everyone

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and its not like u solo soak anymore

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like melee can soak it till like 8 stacks

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its got nerfed into the ground

silent anchor
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yeah thats what i said originally too her

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but seems too think ill need externals for every 2nd one i take

jagged pier
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I mean u can take them

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but my cotank uses all of them

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so i never get them

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🤷

silent anchor
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whats your co tank?

jagged pier
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monk

silent anchor
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you killed it ig?

jagged pier
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twice now

silent anchor
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if melee dont soak at all and i solo soak, can still take with SW and SR easily or?

jagged pier
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i dunno

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our melees soakk

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cause it got nerfed

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🤷

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never had to solo soak

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might just be me my cotank and rogues at the end

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but i dont really pay attention to it

quiet monolith
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Nokud offensive, warspears on the trash for dragon boss

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I've never tracked it or been told it's a big deal

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Is that the sleeper group killer ?

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I usually just watch for rally, and the shout

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But someone told me the spear is also a big deal

sick sentinel
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it has a ranged charge with a nasty bleed, also a melee bleed

hazy sluice
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Don't they charge whoever stands the furthest away ?

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Double bleed debuff ticks already on 21 fort pretty strong.

quiet monolith
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Yea I have died to it as tank top

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Too

hazy sluice
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U got charged as tank ? Hmm either u were too far away or the theory is wrong

sick sentinel
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it has 2 separate bleed spell

hazy sluice
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Druid with vortex helps and cc general. But with stuns u need to be pretty fast once they charge

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WA that tracks trash spells helps a lot 🙂

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Depending on the distance i pre throw storm bolt so that one gets insta stunned once he charges

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But on a 21 fort it's still possible to heal

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Personals etc

sick sentinel
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...it has nothing to do with tracking, we're not talking about the charge, thats a ranged mechanic, we're talking about the uninterruptable cast, you can out range it, but its not that reliable unless youre constantly moving, which isnt ideal for those packs

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you will pick up a stack or two natrually

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even higher in the double warspear packs

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you can dwarf it tho

hazy sluice
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Ah okay. Well 21 fort wasn't enough to be that noticable I guess ^^'

lime urchin
frank dust
#

what is the best trinket combination for m+ rn

thin glade
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Does ravager put out any threat?

blazing condor
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yes

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as with any damage

thin glade
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It's damage from an entity that's not your character, so I thought it might not

blazing condor
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its not like heroic throw / taunt though that "generates high amount of threat"

sick sentinel
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2 priests arguing about mas dispell

blazing condor
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last boss?

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or first packs

frank dust
#

without 4 set are we still strong, but 4 set just makes us unkillable

sick sentinel
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nah, this was at boss 2, and we killed the big blue dude, and then a huge pack after that and uhhhh

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lemee see

blazing condor
#

what is there to even mass dispel / interrupt on those packs lol

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thats like the frogs n shit

sick sentinel
#

i had some bad RNG with the freeze and swirlis

sterile bough
#

ye the rng is called u didnt interupt

sick sentinel
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probably should have just stayed LOS tbh

sterile bough
#

????????????????????????????????????????????????????

sick sentinel
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if a spell casting mob has a wall in the way, it will have to go around the wall, you can use this on any wall or pillar

sterile bough
#

yogi in this game there are casts

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and u can interupt them

sick sentinel
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somebody got aggro, which is why i went out

sterile bough
#

its a moving bar below their hp

ripe seal
#

What's the best way to sim for mythic broodkeeper when you're on add duty, is it hectic add cleave with 4 bosses?

sick sentinel
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ah, my interupts is low, we did the frontal section with the purple rock men good though

grave wedge
#

Spell block For Aa this week?

tranquil fern
#

at what point do we want to take Sudden Death over Show of Force in raid?

jagged pier
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always? exepct council

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and brood adds

weary saddle
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For COS miniboss Gerenth the Vile (before last boss), does protwar have to help cc or can i leave it to others

lofty widget
#

you have 3 stops so why wouldnt you

tranquil fern
strong forum
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Why would you run aoe in raid

tranquil fern
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"This setup is oriented toward more mobility talents, raid utility, and AoE damage. It is the more generically-useful of the two raid builds. It functions well against periodic packs of adds or sustained cleave."

strong forum
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98% of the encounter is killing singular targets

tranquil fern
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sounded like ocasional adds and you default to it

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ST says specifically for ST fights. which is only terros

strong forum
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Eranog, kurog, dathea, rasza, terros

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All single target fights

tranquil fern
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kinda

strong forum
#

Only pad fight is council and diurna as add tank

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Everything else is "go full ST"

tranquil fern
#

ok thanks, ill look over everything now

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reading through the talents that change I do see your point

timber forge
#

need transmog ideas for prot...........

jagged pier
timber forge
#

wow complete disc

timber forge
#

having trouble learning when to stop using Revenge to use Ignore Pain.. in my head i keep shield block and i keep hitting and getting rage lol much time playing fury maybe

strong forum
#

Press IP when rage 60-80

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That's all there is to it

south zealot
dry egret
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Yo, got a mate that's returning to the game and he's in the mood for tanking.
He's the kinda guy that doesn't really care about minmaxing or reading up too much, just wants to blast some low m+ for fun.

So I'm looking for the most passive/"easy mode" build for his prot warr, dps is not a concern really.
Would this fit that description: BkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIQAAAAgkkEJJk0SKJJpARgU0EClkEgIQCFEJkIBhAAAAAAAASCAoUaAgA
?

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The fewer buttons the better basically

tropic tangle
#

tanking is not passive ez mode

jagged pier
#

tell him to play a druid

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if he wants few buttons

dry egret
#

nah he got the warri itch, idk

south zealot
#

cant see the talents i’m not ingame

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any chance you can screenshot

dry egret
jagged pier
#

hes really gunna stuggle

timber forge
jagged pier
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with BT and no Ravager

south zealot
#

if your friend just wants to do low keys thats generally fine as it doesnt really matter

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switch this talent tho

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its not optimal but if the goal id to minimize buttons that works

jagged pier
#

should really do that

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but u should really encourage him to play ravager and roar

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its far better

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than wasting points

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even if he doesnt press them on cd

timber forge
#

roar best then spear for beginners @jagged pier ? im a beginner too

dry egret
dry egret
#

But ty for the tip

jagged pier
#

sorry this

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in general tho

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he can play what he wants

timber forge
# jagged pier yes

you can make a talent tree to I see the best options for beginners? or good for learning... actually using spear+ravager

jagged pier
timber forge
#

using that from pins and swaping nails to spell block sometimes dungeon to dungeon

jagged pier
#

thats not in the pins

timber forge
#

disrupting shout seems great but never used

jagged pier
#

no build in the pins

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has barabatic training

timber forge
jagged pier
#

thats from wow head

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not the pins

timber forge
#

yea, in the pins

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lol

jagged pier
#

scroll down

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1 more in the pins

timber forge
#

gotcha

#

thanks sir, ill read and swap and test ❤️

strange lintel
#

yall think its okay to do a macro for heroic throw and shield slam so they work whenever are out and in of range?

timber forge
#

seems better now

topaz leaf
#

You guys running spell block in sbg? That pack before first boss just deleted me.

cerulean tusk
strange lintel
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oh works

torpid junco
#

just stun them. rotate your 2 solo stuns then use your 2 aoe stuns then spell reflect then either kite or use wall

timber forge
#

newbie question. every non-boss monster run away from intimidating shout? never used and always afraid spread to much mobs

torpid junco
#

i storm bolt first one then sheild charge 2nd then shockwave on third then intimidating should on 4th

strange lintel
harsh spruce
#

whats gems you have in lartiat?

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lariat*

timber forge
tropic tangle
#

damage breaks the fear

strange lintel
#

dmg breaks the fear effect

halcyon dust
timber forge
#

thanksssssssss that helped a lot

harsh spruce
#

why does my lariat keep procing vers

strong forum
#

it procs the element of your gems

cerulean tusk
#

Vers gems

strong forum
#

if you have large haste small vers gem, it procs vers

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my lariat for example procs crit

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cuz i use fire gems

harsh spruce
#

so what gem should we be using

strong forum
#

youre using the correct gems

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small haste gems

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which means, you have less haste on your gear, but then get a haste proc

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all you do is trade perma haste on gear vs haste proc

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you cant have both

harsh spruce
tropic tangle
#

you have a chance to proc haste or vers

harsh spruce
#

so what gems should i be using

strong forum
#

i just explained it to you

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it doesnt matter

median tulip
#

Specifically, lariat procs based on the LOWER of the two stats on the gem

strong forum
#

^

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if you want the haste proc, instead of having large haste gems, you'll have to socket 70vers +33haste

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or 70crit+33 haste

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whatever floats your boat

tranquil fern
#

that's weird

strong forum
#

no thats just how it works

toxic pewter
#

Lol

strong forum
#

it procs it based off of the gem element

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large haste gems are arent air element

toxic pewter
#

I think it works fine and makes sense tbh

median tulip
#

It's part of Blizzard's deliberate strategy to move away from "one stat to rule them all"

topaz leaf
#

Let the group line of sight I guess?

jagged pier
#

thats never has been the case is was just BFA s4 that made ppl think that

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u didnt even need to stack vers that season

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just something the community did to themselves

cerulean tusk
#

If you got ranged, tank midroom. Ya got melee tank by a doorway. Rally the first set.

vocal bison
#

Well S4 as a tank was either TD7 or verse amp/invincibility, both were amazingly fun, lol.

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I just wish they hadn't capped TD target count in pvp.

cerulean tusk
#

TD prenerf was BiS

vocal bison
#

Nothing more amazing than ashran as a tank proccing TD.

cerulean tusk
vocal bison
#

Delete the whole team in mid.

cerulean tusk
#

Watching a paladin charge at you, full speed in bubble, glowing like the rainbow. Good times

topaz leaf
cerulean tusk
#

Normal is at the exit, the alcove that turns into the way onwards

merry scroll
#

you have to use air gems for haste

cerulean tusk
#

Just step into the corner and the blueberries follow you, twist around and done

merry scroll
#

its on wowhead

topaz leaf
#

Thanks for your help.

daring marlin
#

Havoc in particular.

merry scroll
#

whats prio for upgrading crafted? shield then wep right?

cerulean tusk
#

Shield is alpha an the omega. Life and death.

limber fable
#

whats the best way to live the 2nd boss in ruby? wall the 1st, external 2nd, and then?

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or

jagged pier
#

dwarf and evoker in group

cerulean tusk
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First IP/demo+dispell, 2nd wall-ip, 3rd demo IP dispell, 3rd LS IP, then dispell, then wall again.

halcyon dust
ocean prairie
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Is anyone running sonic boom + rumbling Earth?

jagged pier
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no its aweful outside of very low keys

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and less damage than TR

ocean prairie
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Low dps? Because i thought that an aoe stun every 25 sec could be fun

jagged pier
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u dont use your utility like that

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its also short CD

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so u DR the mobs

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so they cant be stunned when u actually want them to be stunned

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and again its lower damage then TR anyway

ocean prairie
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Ok understood thanks

bitter bronze
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Anyone else run disrupting shout in nokhud, just to try and help control the elemental packs ? So many kicks required it feels

daring marlin
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I like it there for those packs and last boss

bitter bronze
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Also thoughts on totems in those packs? Tank at them or pull away and deal with after ?

potent harbor
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well tried that HR in few dungs, i feel like slow shiet tbh in compare with ITF

left beacon
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Any idea of what trinkets to rock if you are only doing m+? I'm trying for that whetstone in court, no luck sadly, not sure what to pair it with though

bitter bronze
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I am using the versatility seed from av with it since I don’t raid seems pretty good

halcyon dust
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Double on use feels odd. The Nokhud one might be worth.

strong forum
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whestone + hoof

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is your best bet

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if you exclusively m+ and never even want to take a chance at getting raid trinket

left beacon
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alright, thats probably my situation thanks

potent harbor
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well he would have to raid a lot to actually get kurog trinket since its like 4-5 th boss what guilds go kill i beleive 5th

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and totem is like only one solid from raid

strong forum
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hc raid is super easy

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like super easy

halcyon dust
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I enjoy Rumbling ruby from terros

potent harbor
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hc one is 405 or?

strong forum
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408 all-totem is better than anything you can get from m+

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ilvl doesnt matter on raid trinkets

potent harbor
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guess ye

strong forum
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nearly as much

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what matters is what the trinket does

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and sadly most of m+ trinkets are pretty terrible

left beacon
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Yea i would love that, i guess i could try raid tanking, i mostly enjoy m+ but if its that much better i may give it a go

strong forum
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hc raid is literally just hit red

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and dont stand in swirly

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if you can, try to find kurog specific groups

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just go in, kill kurog, leave

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gg

left beacon
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Yea thats probably the best bet, single out the fight

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only probably is there are only 2 tanks so getting a spot will be tough

strong forum
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if need be, you can sign up as dps, and set lootspec to tank

cerulean tusk
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Sign up as warrior tank. Suddenly the other tank had to... Go to the farm, and you get insta invited. Works every time.

left beacon
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oooh shit i forgot about that i will have to go dps

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as an option

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haven't even tried dpsing as warrior yet although i've seen them blast

cerulean tusk
left beacon
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i mean is that not true?

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They seem to be in a good spot right now

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from my point of view

potent harbor
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yes arms and fury are rly good

cerulean tusk
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Just don't compare it to the real top dogs and warrior is fine ExcitedBlushette

wind oak
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for 99% of the playerbase

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if you know your class you will do fine

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just dont watch MDI when its gonna air

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because you will see the real potential of every class maxed

strong forum
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idk why people even have the need to compare e-peen size

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just play whats fun

left beacon
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if there is a measuring stick people will always compare

timber forge
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race are important too much at high keys? racial etc

strong forum
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no

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theyre nice to haves, not must haves

potent harbor
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@cerulean tusk dont know what bs u talk about, on 2/8 bosses arms is king, on rest of 6+ he is super decent above average, comparing to the top of the top, and if we are talkming about normal humans normal palyers or lets say rly rly decent around 85-95 parser ,war is again above average super solid

left beacon
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i've seen a bunch of cheesing with meld, obviously not a must have by any means but changes a lot strats

strong forum
cerulean tusk
upbeat pine
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Do you think Signet of Titanic Insight is worth to craft? Or better to farm Thunderous Downburst Ring?

strong forum
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you want melandrus and eranog ring

upbeat pine
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melandrus I have already

strong forum
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you can craft ring if you want, its not a bad craft

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and it comes with guaranteed socket, so thats cool

sick sentinel
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i dunno wtf happend, but i ran AV 14, and healer complained about hunter at end, then right as key ends they remove me from key lol lol

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its like, we timed it at least had 1 dumb wipe

lone eagle
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Dwarf was nuts because of the insane number of awful bleeds and other effects in SLands

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Even then it wasn't that important

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There aren't that many horrendous ones that dwarf racial totally fixes. Crawth is nice, but that beak comes out constantly

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Severing Slice on axes is GOATed w/ dwarf racial

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Can't think of many more

timber forge
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Im looking the more cool visual race lol always playing belf/orc now Im looking for new things

strong forum
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dwarf

toxic pewter
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Vulpera

timber forge
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dwarf looks great tbh but im always playing female... not great

strong forum
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proportions of female are better for tmog

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best thing is the hairstyle

timber forge
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is convincing me

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I thought it would look like a barrel like a man dwarf

scenic mural
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Only problem with female dward is pretty mych every weapon shield combo clips unless wep goes to back

timber forge
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dont remember dwarf racial

strong forum
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idc about clipping

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their shields and weapons are larger than male dwarf, therefor, better

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especially the shield

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biggest downside of male dwarf is the downsized shield and oversized boots

timber forge
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lol stoneform seems good as fk in df

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lot of dots

cerulean tusk
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If you want looks. Nelf is the only way.

timber forge
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bleed*

strong forum
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dwarf > nelf

cerulean tusk
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Nelf got SM, nelf wins again.

strong forum
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nah dwarf looks better

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more badass

cerulean tusk
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No, nelf is better, cooler and far more badass.

strong forum
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wrong opinion detected smh my head

cerulean tusk
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I gotta go, so will jump early

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No u

strong forum
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i said smh

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!

toxic pewter
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Nelf moves like they have a stick up their ass

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It’s weird and offputting

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Same with human

scenic mural
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Nelf look terrible

toxic pewter
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I will say female nelf and female human are better of both races

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If I had to be them

scenic mural
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If kul tiran had better skele theyd be S tier

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Too round with too skinny of legs

sick sentinel
pale rock
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I wish Blizzard would bring Gladiator stance back sword and board dps spec sounds like fun

pale rock
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Or well have it as a fourth spec

sullen flame
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They have a hard enough time balancing the specs they have and you want more?

pale rock
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That or well have passives that drastically change playstyle. Id rather have that than having more and more button bloat

mighty valley
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there's just less demand for a sword and board dps spec vs. putting that effort into new shit

fallow nova
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Hey now, gladiator stance was a fking treasure

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I 100% understand their reasons for removing it,

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But I'll always be in favor of re-adding it to the game

pale rock
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Theres already specs i cant play anymore because of how much binds they need, minor fine motor skill impairment so if the button bloat continues there will no classes left im able to play

lucid pasture
pale rock
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Frost Dk already has the option of having two playstyles in one spec, i want that for all specs

strong forum
sick sentinel
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bots winning awc

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not jebaited, well, kinda

dire matrix
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wtf flask is best on adds on brood

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top logs have glacial vers and eye

halcyon dust
granite radish
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Hi, how do you manage the -65% heal on Diurna HM ? Do you kite her ?

dire matrix
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no

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you dont kite

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you just stand there and take it

stable valley
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Hello! I rent more to put 2 gems celeridad and one of versatility or all of celerity in the elemental lariat?

dire matrix
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haste + crit or haste +vers is fine

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in lariat

granite radish
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(I'm not war btw, i'm just the RL trying to understand why our tank got shredded every single times when he had debuff ^^' )

dire matrix
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keep shield block up

amber siren
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They probably weren't putting SR up for the claw

granite radish
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SR ? 🙂

amber siren
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Spell reflect, the damage is half phys half magic

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It won't deflect the magic portion but it's a flat 20% dr off the hit

dire matrix
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thats also helpfull

granite radish
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Can someone check the log to see where the mistakes might be ?

cloud umbra
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link em

dire matrix
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any1 got thoughts on mythic add tank flask

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on brood

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can see logs with all

cloud umbra
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i just use eye for everytthing

dire matrix
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well eye on st is awfull

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but it will be good on the adds portion

granite radish
round pendant
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Is it worth ever using ruby whelp shell when I have grieftorch and whetstone?

dire matrix
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i wouldnt

round pendant
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I have literally all the trinkets lmao

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Other than icon

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Sadge

mighty valley
blazing condor
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i dont know the downtime on the fight but he has 33 cpm

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which is like half whats considered normal

mighty valley
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if you're boss tank, there's like no downtime

granite radish
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How can this be improved ? 🙂

mighty valley
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Ideally, send the warrior here and we'll give the rundown on how to play right haha

round pendant
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Press Shield Block more

blazing condor
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press everything more tbh

granite radish
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He's really bad in english, and I know him, he's too lazy to do the work to correct himself ...

blazing condor
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well then

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install Teamviewer

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and have someone else play for hiim

granite radish
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He's not taking it seriously IMO, always a bit too nonchalant, but there is one issues, he's also the GM :v

blazing condor
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i mean not much use trying to help someone who doesn't wanna be helped

mighty valley
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new plan: find a different guild

round pendant
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Find a new guild

blazing condor
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doesn't matter what we tell you to tell him if he's not gonna care about putting in the work

cloud umbra
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more shield block, DR the claws with spell reflect. He goes sometimes 20 seconds without any ignore pain. It looks like he isnt even casting that much, like standing there idle

granite radish
amber siren
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Without it he's going to have shield block gaps

mighty valley
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looking at the logs, he has HR AND bolster

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and is achieving 70%

amber siren
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I see ITF on mine