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We need the crafted belt to use diurnia ring right
P much
weird, my bombs daily craft has no timer and everything says i should be able to make them
but cant
and only now after relog shows 1 hr cd lol
Not likely while they have separated economies for non-material goods.
Also managed to get my 418 UFFB on the first craft. 
Felt good to bang out a 418 without any effort or Recrafts.
Guys i still can't decide, i got an extra spark. What to craft? ring or boots? i can get court rings or azure vault one too
But if we can just mail it between Alts what does it matter
It’s basically like we have account gold already
With extra steps
cant mail it cross servers
Make it server wide then
Non server-wide gold is a little toonish yeah.
I would craft boots
thinking the same have 2 good options for rings on m+ a some for raid
boots are allt rash
is it still advisable to be Fury for loot specialisation?
IF u need a shield / are farming a defensive trinket (cringe btw) > prot
ELIF u need a onehanded weapon still / are farming dam trinkets > fury
ELIF u no longer need a shield/1hr > arms
I’m currently ~418 ilvl and now that I have most of the shit I want from my fury spec I’m not rolling Prot to try to replace my 418 shield
Gonna be giga sad if I proc 3 defensive trinkets tho
there are only 2 from m+
what is everyone socketing their lariat with? I assume we want to only use air gems?
Get you main stat gem obv
Then sim it
If you have more than 40% haste you don’t want any more haste
40% haste is pretty damn hard to reach
It can happen
Gl with that
If not yea just go haste vers
Yus
remember that ITF is flat % and doesn't count towards DR if that's coming up
IM PUMPIN SOME PHATT DEEPS BROTHER
I thought you hated deeps

Did you have a change of heart

I use 1-6, ctrl+1-6, shift+1-6, alt+1-6, QERF, shift-QERF, ctrl-QERF
Damn I logged in M+ spec can’t post terros sim
and I have just enough for everything
My movement is on Q / E,
I use A, S, D for abilities.
My sim was 40 seconds, yours was 5 minutes
ohh ait
I sim 4k less than you in 5 minutes
Quick sim, patchwerk, 1 boss, 5 minutes, everything else default
tbf I think that's all default anyway
Dunno why mine was on 40 seconds
yogi goes to do keystones this week:
explosive and bursting: exists
the keys i join: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsCm6Y-5lYs
anyone know if you trained your ruby whelp for the trinket and get a new trinket if u have to train them again?
i still say last week affixes is deliberate inentional screwing with us, with all the bosses and mechanics that "suck all party members to 1 spot"
I loved last week, I had like 2 failed keys out of like 20
Alright cool ty
it was a a very good week to push, but, they were trolling
it, just it didnt work blizzard
Dunno what's with all the salt about quaking either
player too smart, need better puzzle to kill us
barely had any trouble with it
quaking is only bad if you have a casting bar more than half of the time
or are a healer
Quaking can just suck if you're in an area denial zone, or are a caster in a ramp or healing during high damage output
How impactful is mastery as a stat and how hard should you be avoiding it if you can?
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Quaking is also moderately more challenging with thundering existing
mastery is my highest stat 
Part of why I'm considering getting rid of tier gloves for goldsteel
whats the most block chance % you can have un-buffed by SB or talents or any of that
75% is i think
and how much mastery is it i wonder, sorta curious what a 75% passive block talents and gear would look and play like
no talent support for it
there would have to be an additional talent or 2 to make it viable
4/10 difficulty if on pc, 9/10 difficulty on phone
~
Oh it’s tilde
~ on each side
its actually double @dusky canopy ~~ on each side
lol np
Managed to put first two mythic, got Mythic decoration and pants from council. Would you play decoration mythic over heroic whispering or heroic grieftorch?
Also probably not worth replacing 402 tier legs with 415 but losing 4 set?
why not take the 415 and make it tier
Used my catalyst on a helm from the vault, so that would be for next week
Bro
this week
is so easy
it almost cured my AA ptsd
i hate AA
(protip: if you pay atention, there isn't nuch i don't hate)
why do none of the warr specs take bitter immunity? isnt it a welcomed defensive to the class?
cuz you can just have healers to dispel for you
its because, its too many talents that arent connected to other good dps talents
theres really no reason to take a 3min cd dispel when healers are like 8s cd
dispel + heal sounds pretty neat
yea its not
so if it was in a better place it would be taken?
it would be picked more often yes
but it wouldn't single handedly save it
If it remove bleed then it will be considered
it used to then it didnt
yes, but also 3 minutes CD
and now im stuck in dwarf
so fucking ugly
i cant
vs 8s cd, and mass dispell
You could be a paladin
Shieldmaiden?
mostly crawth and a bunch of random bleeds here and there
Mass dispel for bleed?
so its like
MDI in legion, also known as "4 blood elves and a druid"
why would you do this
Wat
for this
Not take bounding?
Im playin BS
BOSW over fucking powered when used correctly on other playters
when you can just have
Zoom zoom
Literally don't have either of those
this is why BI = dead
makes sense ty @sick sentinel
I embrace true warrior spirit
this
they could give dwarves a 50% dps buff and i still wouldn't want to hear their fake ass scottish accents all day
or be short
😦
0%
you can have the best looking set in game and put it on dwarf
its gonna look like a trashcan
Betting Humble only plays female elves
according to wow head this is the single target raid build to use. so i assume this is what we use on razzageth. is this still correct?
Bloodsurge over instigate is not correct in ST
Nor is HR over ITF, especially if running bolster
HR and itf?
heavy repercussions / into the fray.
Wrong, dwarves are the best races in any fantasy setting
Vulpera for life 
nothing will ever beat female nightelves
What's with not having 1h spec
You misspelled lady orc
wowhead guide has some issues
lady orc is #2
then male troll warrior
then female drenai hybrid classes
What do yall things the better strat to time 20 azure. jumping down and geting percent early? W the dungeon and hope for the best. Or skip frog packs?
Both work just fine if you don't troll
I've done both routes last week
And timed it just fine
This week though with trash being affix. What would you choose if you ahd to
Its my weakest dungeon
I found skip route more enjoyable, but alot riskier
for me it'd prolly depend on comp and how much you trust dps to control crystal dudes. also how much they'll be impacted by froogies jumpin' around and shit
always nice when the risky pull is at the start not end of dungeon at least
if your dps can stay focused, you can pull the frogs but ignore them and move on to the next room when the big guys are dead
they jump around and do nothing, dying slowly to cleave and dots
but the screen gets chaotic and some dps panic and become Bad
This
I just started mega chaining once the big guy was dead
Why does my name need to be explained? Isn't it obvious?
I've never seen a clearer name in my life
Except for a dog with a hat
I fail to see your point
accurate profile pic ngl
Imagine not using the trading post flail
no
Trading post flail is shit
Enchants don't work on it
legion flail is more exclusive too, fwiw.
wait what
why do you need an enchant illusion on it; it already looks awesome
This is probably true
Though, a lot of people have the legion weapons that probably can't do the current or SL mage towers because the Legion one didn't scale you
Like I did the arms and ret challenges in Legion despite never having played the specs until the 10 mins I spent setting them up for the challenge lol
Lemme ask you this @sick sentinel do you think male bloodelves look gay?
yes
Yeah makes sense

i wish i was 12
Blood elves suck because they're elves
The only positive thing blood elves have going for them is the female stealth animation.
bro
But maybe the tight pants are more accepted over there by nome
if you genuinely think dwarfs look nice then all powers to you
That being said, night elves also suck so
But male blood elves look very cringe
Wait, why
alot of times its not the look per se
its the animation
be male be lookin like hes slapping some other guy's ass in a sexual way
The only toons I have that are elves besides my rogue are horde DHs 
Er, well, I guess my alliance DH too
My alli DH is 2d waifu material
wtf
im not saying its morally wrong
Yea guys wearing tight pants says ur cringe gay or str8
Slapping some dude ass is as manly as it gets
Only if you’re both naked
Have you guys never watched sports? Those dudes slap each others' asses all the time
Hey guys can you all help with Mythic Sennarth pulls - im mainly looking for general tips. It looks like after 4-5 stacks of web blast I am either dying real fast or rotting to the dmg. Is it just about popping cds at right times?
? Shield block should cover you forever
yeah not sure why it doesnt, also, the spell says it isnt blockable not sure if its the initial dmg or the dot itself
So weird, this says it isnt https://www.wowhead.com/spell=385083/web-blast#news
Sennarth blasts her current target with a ball of webs, inflicting 100% of normal attack damage and causing them to suffer 50% increased damage from Web Blasts for 20 sec. This effect stacks.
yes, sportsball proves this
I should have shield block up though
hey all im saying is if you jump like that and swing weapons like that
im gonna do a double take on your sexuality
thats all
What embellishments should i am for
Whatever you like, they don't have large impact
That's the wrong spell. This is the one he uses: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=372129/web-blast
Other one is probably old or something
oh maybe I was looking at the DoT instead of the actual spell, thanks for that clarification. So with Shield Block up and Shield Wall if needed I shouldnt die when I have less than 5 stacks right?
That I can't answer, but sounds like that's what Nome was saying
I haven't done the fight. I was just looking at the spell ID in the logs
careful when running up the stairs if you turn your back you will get blasted
I see, thanks. I am sitting at 412.6 ilvl with 4 tier set
If you are in trouble with only 5 stacks something is going wrong
Cuz you need to comfortably go until 8
iirc
That I havent considered, anyway I can figure that out from logs ? will that show as critical dmg or something?
yeah the tank dmg is pretty light there for prot war. as long as you maintain SB and dont get hit in the back
okay thanks, that was quite the opposite of what I experienced last week LOL. I seem to even get 1 shotted sometimes I honestly think that happens when I am in the middle of changing platforms because lack of healing
I go up with ranged while the other tank stays down, when I am on the second platform, I taunt and seems like I insta die when I do, it is so weird
Can I have some advice on how I can improve my gear? https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/hotlineswing
Please 😄
cant really help much more without a log
but in dmg taken you can hover it and it will show you "blocked hits" seperate from hits
but yes as you see here if you dont block it it will hit you for 400k so just block 🙂
Hello friends , i have a question. 418 crafted wep vs 415 mythic council wep with leech . Sims say i lose ~500dps in AOE (5 targets 2 minutes). Is it worth taking the leech (+some extra vers)?
ilvl better, the extra leech will never make or break you surviving
and its probably worse defensivly when you take into account the mainstat/armor difference
even with the leech gain
To be fair the main stat on a 1h weapon is pretty tiny
Rumbling Ruby or All-Totem for M+?
Totem
gross in a good way
are you guys running sidearm in m+? seems kinda low value node
side arm sucks bro
aight cya later 🐶 talent
it does shitty damage to mobs with 5m health
might aswell pick a talent that does something more useful
than tickle damage
if they buffed the proc rate and damage i think it could be decent at best
🤔
This is an example of a pull I was doing
Link the log
Sophic is a nice all rounder
ok
im only 2050 io, but i've always ran wafting devotion or similiar
guess the question is, should I be blocking more? and if that is a problem I am having with not having SB up ?
according to this you just didnt have SB up for these hits, looks like you taunt and your SB falls
yeah you IP and stuff without having SB up
okay so that is a major issue then
yes
alright awesome, thanks for helping me figure that out man, helps a ton
you should have SB up 100% never let it fall, you are using Heavy Reprecussions so its really easy to maintain the uptime
thats my uptime from a kill a few weeks ago
Grab a WA that shows when its up and make it flash annoying as fuck when its down and you are not in combat
Is anyone here 3000io or 2900?
Im 2870
@sand mason what was one thing you started doing more fluently to make the jump from 2770, to 2870
routes and setting up my dps for success
installing plater and tweaking with aggro colors and downloading a profile to show helped me alot so far
Fortified week feels harder on Prot than it does Vengeance.
Fort weeks with Magic tankbusters are fun
to show, problem monsters in a dungeon, faster, cuz it turns their nameplates purple
I haven't played vengeance this season but I thought it was the other way around
My good sir, that sounds like there's some other issue going on.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just better at Veng than I am Prot.
Anyone got a good talent tree for pve prot and pvp fury
@compact tapir which dungeons in specific have magic tankbusters
PvE prot trees are in the pins
#pvp for the latter probably
that's called, you aren't facing frontals out of the groun, or you are not interupting spells
blocking stuff, etc
SBG, TJS, just on the trash, i.e. Void Slash, Dark Claw etc
You know, you're probably not wrong.
AV has quite a few, with two not being stoppable. Void Slash and Dark Claw aren't that bad and are avoidable if it comes down to it.
No img?
Just click the link and you will see an image XD
this week ez asf
Which link there's alot
Timed RLP with extra min
Nvm
Only did 50k overall tho
I do my best to interrupt, keep mobs faced away. I try to keep mobs in front of me, shield block and IP up 100% and avoid the swirlies but it's still rough
Shameful 😢
eyyy getting some 15s in there
finally starting to get somewhere
Nice job 😄
I timed a 20 rlp Tyr +2 last week, was a nice redemption from a few weeks prior
lmao ye im not +2s Tyra RLP
fkn dungeon is hard every week
Gonna ez stomp Nokhud 21 later
Legit 0 challenge in Fortified Nokhud kekw
Tyra atleast 2nd boss is troublesome sometimes
what is average uptime on sophic devotion on ST?
bolstering would like a word
Sim can tell you that
That dungeon is only as hard as your group make it to be tbf, the less people understand what to stop and do, the harder it gets
Bolstering fades brother
RLP is kinda stressful compared to the other dungeons- a lot of mechanics are rng
Just pull the next pack xd
cc it or smth
Nokhud would hurt raging tho
ngl
I mean fortfied raging
Wish I could find a group I could communicate that to lol, been pugging, pugs don't do well with bolster
Yea I time that in my sleep
I had some good pugs with bolster ngl
some pugs understand bolster, some dont
I had 0 luck with pugs
I either get giga pumpers or people I assume bought their keys
bolster can be very painful though
literally zero in between
is there an achi for 3k M+ score
Or completing all 8 at 20
If not, why wouldn't there be one
You get portals for timing 20s
The question is what we’re you doing when you died, because I’ve had shield block fall on sennarth when you have to take the gateway and the boss is out of range so you can’t generate enough rage to pop it, that’s an easier fix than dropping SB
ye they are good
lmao 1 sec
lol
Never any doubt 
ohhh, well, this probably will be poor, to you guys at least, but i'll see if i can log it
Which route are you doing? Jump or frogs?
I did a very interesting AV route in a 12 last night that I was just doing for easy weekly quest dungeons
It was also interesting because I don't think the healer killed a single explosive lol
SB still low, 79%
Yeah there were times when i was going up to the new platform, there were times I just died on the second platform
Uptime? Or blocked hits?
uptime, blocked is 66%
ive had other keys where is been 90% SB uptime
It sounds like you could benefit from a more obvious weakaura for it
Wait there is a wa shows your SB uptime?
And probably watching your rage a bit more carefully. Spiking that hard and not having good uptime on Shield Block probably means you're overspending and end up not having the rage to cast it.
No, he's looking at logs.
Ah ok
I was referring to a more obvious WA to track his shield block CD and whether it's active or not
is it me or is shocking disclosure just a better pot for m+?
I find sound cues to be very helpful
That’s more just figuring out what works, you prob died on platform 2 because your back was turned if you were dealing with add
hmm
I big possibility, because it is a struggle to get the add on that phase and face it where it needs to while dealing with boss stacks
Like as an example, on my rogue I made a weakaura that checks if Blade Flurry is off CD and then when it has 2 seconds left on the duration, it says "idiot" to remind me to press it lol
how many times do you cast SB in a normal key
Not really a good way to answer that. As many as is necessary.
A longer key obviously means more presses
Other tank should pick up add. We timed it so that we swapped when the add spawned, so someone would take over 6 till the add spawned, or someone would only take 3 or 4
I don't even look at that so I wouldn't know. I just press it
The way i improved my uptime is i put buff uptime on my details and went over it after every key until it was at least 75-80%
In a 31 minute AA +12 (which I wasn't perfect on, 89% blocked hits), I pressed it 112 times
Bunch of things can effect the button press like longer duration shield slam etc
How's the affixs this week for tanking, Can i pull everything or am I gonna die?
been at work all day so I dunno
if possible, bring a priest
Yeah our swaps are a mess, there's just a lot going on that we as a team need to fix but the feedback I'm getting here is amazing and very helpful for my individual improvement
but, any good healer will manage
Just gonna leave out mistweaver and prevoker I see 😢
i mean, literal bis mechanics, they dont have mass dispell
how is a priest going to help?
mass dispell high target cap on a low cd
and what does it dispel?
gottem
bursting is easy or diificult to manage?
Can anyone else with the Jeweled Signet of Malandrus test to see if it's lowering their damaging abilities and not raising it, or if its just mine. With the rings on and naked besides weapon/shield I am hitting for less with the ring on by the amount shown (tooltips reflect it)
lets say if i Yolo and pull mega packs is that going to be a problem this week?
last week it was bolstering so i was pulling slow
well technically...
😄
it's been both
Pull mega packs and watch your whole team get deleted by explosives.
ok so explosives is the issue this week?
More like Explosives + Trashmobs casts that focus DDs
is this week easy for pushing keys?
Feels like it does nothing for me, auto attacks feel the same with it on or off, which is odd cause I just took the whole ring off, so it should be lower cause of stats
how would you "feel" the difference
it's not just auto attacks it effects all weapon based abilities such as shield slam and thunderclap
On a target dummy my shield slams are hitting harder without the ring
what level of keys are you doing?
It does not affect weapon based abilities. That was fixed going into Dragonflight.
so i'm chasing the last bit of rating for 2400
It's strictly auto attack damage now
So the two biggest impacts on bursting week is your DPS and your healer
Healers should be able to heal 4ish stacks pretty comfortably if they're being proactive and preparing for it. But the problem comes when DPS turn their brains off and roll stacks
do you know a healer who's comfortable with explosives? do you have dps who can stop pressing buttons for a second or two? if the answer to both is yes, it's a pretty straightforward week
ok i'm asking because curious about the pacing
Like if you're killing 4 mobs at basically the same time, then it's a 4 second DoT of 4 stacks
If you'd prefer a different description, it does almost identical auto attack damage.
But if you're doing like 2 then 3 then 4 then 5, it's resetting each time so you're getting more ticks and it's getting stronger each time
are you saying it's broken?
Massdispell also works If you got a priest as heal
I mean, it's what, 150 damage at 415 ilevel?
It's not going to be a huge difference, but it's a free difference and it has great stats.
And melees are a large part of our damage
I was merely testing for Jp, I'm not claiming anything
Around ~10%
Btw for how much crit should I aim?
autoattacks already have a pretty wide variance, so you're not really going to notice much just whacking a training dummy
my weakest dungeon is RLP +14 not timed, this week gonna be good for this?
We don't aim for any percentages. Just get ilevel, get haste, then whatever
the only unique thing from this week is to watch for random little scorchlings tagging along at the back of the group since explosives can spawn near them
i did that during bolstering and storming week, I know RLP in general is a tough dungeon for many so having bolstering on top of it, might have made it harder than it should have been.
you generally want to focus fire most of the dangerous mobs in rlp anyway
yes, bolstering is harder for sure
i need to find 46 rating from somewhere this week for my 2400 mythic rating, i am so close
next week gonna farm valor for get everything to 415
i don't get invites to SBG 20
even though i ran like 40+ 16-19 SBG keys consecutively for 4 days straight when i was farming primals
i know the dungeon super well
two * easy
but it's my M+ rating i suspect
I have never done a +20 key
but i'm on the cusp of that
so why do our bis gloves give crit + mastery?
isnt 4 set peice our bis?
Good thing there are 5 tier pieces
nothign makes sense
earlier today was talking here with ppl,,they told me to use cata on my gloves instead of chest
They're not "bis" in the sense that the stats are great. You need 4 pieces of tier and gloves are preferable over the chest because the chest also doesn't have haste, and it's higher stat budget, so replacing that chest with a haste item is a bigger increase than replacing the gloves with a haste item.
The stats aren't bad though either, to be clear. None of our stats are bad. Just mastery happens to be the worst, relatively.
okie
Question - If I have broodkeeper's ring from raid, what am I relying on to proc the shield? Is frostfire belt my only option?
The only consistent one
Not your only option, but by far the best option.
i have 1 spare catalyst atm
So I came back to Dragonflight and crafted the wrong belt. How much worse is a belt with Armor Spikes vs the Unstable Frostfire Belt?
Are my friends doing the right thing by bullying me about it?
cuz i have nothing good at all to spend it on
is catalyst only usable on this tier?
Unless you have the raid rings, it literally does not matter.
i feel like 1 charge per week is insanely generous haha
wrist, belts, cloaks also
feet
u cant do trinkets, cant do rings cant do neck, cant do crafted to whatever
No, they will likely disable it temporarily at the start of the next tier but we'll have it for the entire expansion
ah.. so no point in hoarding charges tho
pretty low value on zapping non-tier slots other than transmog and mild stat optimizations on some slot
oh.. so basically just use it on even small upgrades?
Yeah I converted a belt on my rogue yesterday because it was crit/vers instead of crit/mastery
like if i can upgrade my 398 helm to a 402 helm, might as well?
once you've got 4p, just use it on random big vault items you get to keep your tier bonuses
Wait, that's not a catalyst though, that's a valor upgrade 🤔
i just have nothing ilvl enough upgrade to warrant blasting my catalyst
Catalyst doesn't change ilevel of anything
i mean, it's up to you how often you get gear upgrades compared to your one charge a week
i mean if i find a 402 helm, and use the charge to convert to set
ye
It does retain the upgrade track, yes
retains upgrade tracks, tertiaries, sockets etc
The only thing it doesn't retain is gems (the socket stays but it eats the gem)
do i spend a 405 token each time
yeah im 405 now, and just starting to push higher M+s, but i have a couple lower items
each time i recraft
no
Spellbane Cutlass vs Strike Twice?
Yeah you want to prio lower items and higher stat budget items (e.g. legs/chest)
at exact same ilvl? strike twice
oh, cuz it still lists it in the thing to the right
Yes it's just showing that it's keeping it
It shows what you already had on it
yeah makes sense.. my chest is 415 so thats pretty much maxed for me for now
that's so you can replace it with the concentrated primal infusion later
You can change those reagents when you recraft, which is why those spots show
do you guys buy the 'food persist through death' 'embellishment'?
that shit is so expensive
i want to put new food buff on boots
I farm them
I'm not paying 75k for that shit
i think boots are a safer target for RNG really good bis drops
how?
Community feast weekly
is that for the pattern? or the actually item?
It's a possible drop in the soup pot or whatever you get from the quest
It's for the item. It's not craftable.
You can do the community feast on any character that's 60+
oh.. hmm maybe ill keep doing feast then.. that event is so boring haha
So I do it on 28 toons every week
its down to 68k last i saw today
im a gold hoarder, its hard on me to spend kekw
lol
and im not great at making gold, so i only have about 1mil
It's not time consuming at all. With all the changes they've made to the feast, I literally completed a toon in 32 seconds last night.
Usually do like 7-8 toons per feast
i only have 3x 70s
Do you have any 60+?
one 60
You can do it on him too
but not even in dragon isles
so, if i buy a wow token, its gunna be 75k for the boots and then about 10k for recraft
Yep most of my alts are just camped there
I would do more but the rest of my toons are on other realms
So no point
yeah one of my 70s is on a diff realm
should i upg then this 1?
3/4 of my toons are on stormreaver, low pop haha
then 2 on illidan
one is only level 40, working on a brewmaster now
more haste than crit, and haste+crit, both great
just to use as 5th piece
use other 4 for 4pc
Yeah the population doesn't even matter anymore because they made it so higher population = more tasks given out at a time
So it's just as fast with high pop as low pop
i mean,i dont see which other is better in m+ that drops
teleport ring results today, tol borad
yeah, gathering is just better on low pop
and i mine/herb
but i do want a character that i actually use on a high pop.. idk why
if i ever feel the urge to farm world drops or something, they'd go faster on a high pop
any race that says it has deftness to that gathering skill is BIS best experience possible for gathering
i don't think you understand
I mean, it's nice to have but it's not required
The races that have it give 25% deftness which is pretty huge
go make high mountain tauren, give it some green gear, go try mining now
you will never want to mine on not that guy again
But yeah I avoid deftness generally. I go for skill/perception/finesse
I don't know how to heal... I tank, and Gdruid just ass compared to prot
timed my first +18 today, been stuck on 15/16 and missing time on most of them until recently
ye i know im bad, but im improving!
would love to get 20s on each this season
at what m+ do you all start being more picky about who you invite
depends on the dj tbh
i dont care about meta but i do care about what i have on each dungeon
i wish more , preferably 75% of races got a profession bonus
some dungeons you can run 3 ranged dps.. some you really need more interrupts
do you guys just kite the skeletons in SBG or is there some other way to make them not destroy you
i appreciate people who mark prio mobs so much. i know a few of them but still
i gotta set some hotkeys for marking.. i set some focus macros yesterday for pummel
fortunately when you get to higher keys people seem to know the prio. Good thing to mark for interrupt tho
that's not a given tho. did a sbg earlier and I don't think we finished a spider pack without a cast finishing 😢
depends on if you do m+ a lot I guess
everything under 18-19 is kinda brainless
i feel like im starting to find the better players above 16 now
not all of them, thats for sure
but a lot really know how to pump dps AND interrupt/do affixes properly
before it was just people tunneling dps and getting killed by mechanics of fights
I think I've finished all keys on 19 in both tyra and fortified
as long as kicks are in order, TJS on fort week should be ok?
but 20 meh
22 problems start to appear
it seems like such a step up
its fine, just skip pandas and LOS elementals.
20+ fort panda's are cringe
you can skip pandas? cloak?
invis pot or cloak
And take spell block :)))
the last pull in TJS is a shitshow
its fine
but other than that, its not so bad
Its on chest slot so nah
Dang I was behind in chat
Guys how do you aggro after being cr?
Yo Varughh fully recovered from them deadlifts btw
aoe taunt
Now I give 3-4 days break
gangster, ill try to remember that
AOE taunt is 10 yards
ive been squatting 5x a week the last 2 months
big gains
Nothing happen

I cant find my pair
So I been using my wifes rollerblade knee stuff lmao
atleast they keep em warm
added 20 lb to my squat every week consistently
did they hotfix nokhud last boss "pull & vanish" adds tactic?
Or, we're just not doing it correctly?
any fort issues on NO? My highes t is 16 but I have an 18 key that I'm going to try tonight
not for us, just dont fuckup kicks in 2nd boss area
stormbolt hurts
spell block work in there?
^
i dunno why i ran it, but in that 15 AA i showed some of, i ran concussive blows
you still want spell block for no
no
lets see how much that actually benefited me
keep it as clean as possible imo. timer is pretty forgiving with the skip to the last boss
0 need for spell block in nok
youd never not take the node with spell block in it.
if you want to kite alot then fine but your dps is gonna have a worse time because of it
I was doing an AA 18 today i told my group to wait on stairs to wait for me to collect. Forgot that was explo and i was destroyed by them while mounted =))). Good thing they didn t aggro and i was able to come back and we timed
I wanna play DS so bad but have never figured out what to sacrifice lol
where would concussive blow be listed
battering man maybe
ah yeah you need that node for punish
so i prob just not take battering ram if i want disrupting shout
by miles.
i used to do a squat everyday program. it hurts but it works so well
how is battering ram that much dmg in aoe?
alright you cool cats and kittens, thanks for the advice
battering ram is crazy AA dmg increase
and show of force is still somehow less dmg then?
Isn’t that just a sim question
its different damage profile
What trinket is better to use? 395 all totem or 389 decoration? cuz i feel like the shield from decoration is non existent
why does my arms spec literally only sim 10k more damage than prot lmao
also question for you guys running 20+: what trinkets do you use ? I've been using torch for some time now as it is so much dmg but I'm sometime asking myself if it's not trolling
Whetstone + All-Totem 
(especially that time where I cancelled the shield on HoV Ragnarok because of it woopsie)
is it tho. torch does such a large amount of overall dmg. Only thing I don't like is that it makes my 2 slots filled with on use trinkets
what is the cooldown of frost fire blet
Torch good
okay, and boots will still be a good safe option for food?
cuz i dont think theres special boots i can get
ok I see
ok so show of force does more dmg in aoe, and both talents are basically dmg only talents so fort weeks drop battering ram, tyran weeks drop show of force is my take
aye, +2'd a +11 RLP with no deaths. Granted, it was on my DH but that felt good
also is the diurna's ring worth crafting the belt ?
yes
okok next upgrade then
what about the other ring ? you grab the seal ? Got the one from CoS atm
It's not bad to grab but I don't know that I'd be aching for it
It is high ilevel though iirc? So probably worth it on mythic just for the amount of stats
Thunderous downburst ring or cos auto attack ring
At same ilevel, CoS
K
God, ever since I hid my action bars I enjoy WoW so much more
Bc of devestator ya
No just because the stats are good and the effect is free
Spiteful storm ar 411 or whetstone? Ive heard conflicting stories of spitefuls performance
Ah
Yo whats up with Lepanclaps talents for this +25 RLP??
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUgVRARpFRRBBNVUVEVURFVYVUQDRQA
Mythic plus as well doesnt seem like would be good there but then ive been told it does
I feel like hes up to something
So 
They look like fairly normal talents to me
Whetstone for sure in keys
I'm pretty sure it's better in ST too than spiteful but I don't have spiteful so idk
You can just sim it if you want
Yeah those talents are normal
tho what's he losing BR for?
I'm pepega when I look at talent trees
can't see shit
Disrupting
Is that better than giving up blood surge?
421 on mythic, and quite easy to get as it's on the first boss
I guess for ST, give up surge/instigate and for dungeons BR?
does anyone have a stance swap macro that actauls works the ones i found seems to be very work for arms and prot
overwhelming rage? ITF?
IS this normal? If so im bad lmfao
OR is preference
It's not recommended. But it is normal.
I was referring to the shield one
430 then but much more difficult to get
second to last boss on mythic, and a very rare item sooo
not there quite yet, I'll stick with the hero one for the moment 
Im feeling chad like. I only have 31% haste tho
wrecking throw looks a bit tempting, i'm willing to bet there is all kinds of targets for it in keys that give them selves absorb buffs
There's not
i mean, you have 1 free point in M+
can be pain + gain, imp leap, imp throw, you kinda stacked together in RLP so ITF makes sense.
wrecking throw is good for raszageth, maybe another raid fight or two i'm forgetting right now
Guys where I can find the timers for the raid boss abilities? I'm doing a note in MRT for my guild.
When is a good time to replace the colbalt ring? It does so much healing for me on logs. I also have a 418 seal of filial duty (absorb on fire) and a 421 crit vers ring
In HoV, is there some trick to using the post on the wolves? my ranged are getting charged
I've done it before and it worked, and today it didn't. Maybe it was hotfixed?
Ambition was doing it on live servers as recent as 3 days ago, but not sure if there's some special way to do it or what the deal is.
ive been doing this mostly
was side arm, trying out the interupt one, low uptime
seems okay to me, 13 second pummel instead of 15
only 1 second off, have to take the other pummel to get to 13
Unless you're literally kicking on CD, it's a waste, and you spent 2 seconds to get that.
2 points to get that*
And you're also assuming no one stole your kick too
honestly if it was 3 seconds off on its own it could see some purpose as 12 second kick actually is impactful in niche situations but 14 second doesnt change anything
And you basically never wait 9 seconds for SS to come off CD so the other part of Honed Reflexes is pointless.
I like intimating shout too much. Saves me in keys when people don’t kick.
yogi is an intimidating shout hater
ya fear is really solid
He thinks it's going to pull other packs
only time would drop it is if in a premade where stops are already planned out and dont need it
I give him shit for it all the time
I mean it’s so good in NO trash before 3rd boss. Also in CoS imps.
bats in sbg too
Yup.
its a very high value 1 point talent
Man can you imagine if we'd had to talent into Intimidating Shout with the old trees. We'd be having an entirely different conversation probably 😂
Pain and again is a point I’m not sure about. I take it but I don’t know what to take instead. Bounding stride? A bit higher rage cap.
pain and gain is the flex point
higher rage cap is nice in aoe, intervene in halls, etc
For those that have killed or are progging M brood, are you guys able to dispel the bleed? I tried using that talent that removes bleed but it doesn’t seem to work on it
At the start I took titanic throw. But I don’t like the cd. Especially this week.
I take bounding stride generally, yeah
Bitter Immunity does not remove bleeds sir.
disease,poison,curse only
is nookiehood 19 easy clap this week?
nok is ez every week
oh, but does the evoker one remove the whole thing or is it per stack?
My healing officer who plays an evoker kept saying it doesn't work
but >???????
i dunno, I've got some PTSD nokhud stories
What is the bleed called?
Some raid mechanics are just designed to not be removed by shit like that
it works. did it a few hours ago
stupid as i thought it was going to be
yeah well, u hear about it, dunno how it works, then u see it
Rending bite
its like really thats how we gotta do that shit lol
quick question: do you all take thunderlord and/or Enduring Alacrity for M+? I am trying to change things around a bit and see what different builds feel like in semi-high keys
enduring alacrity doesnt do much
so i guess thats okay to swap it for bolster?
no one runs bolster because you have 100% uptime anyways
I have one
I've had 3 waist drops
Damn, All-Totem did like 3.8% of my dps in that CoS +16
actually pretty good!
Yeah and it's uncapped so it'll do even better in a higher target count dungeon
You're not running correct talents if enduring alacrity vs bolster is even a question
Are you not running focused vigor?
if I have a dungeon log and I filter it to "trash" and it says 100% uptime on shield block
am I doing it right?
ye its cracked
no
wanna look at blocked hits
But then on Bosses it says 0% 
Damage taken, hover over hits column next to melee
link log?
On the whole thing
OOF
73% blocked

I wonder why it keeps dropping
I'm prob just not pressing it enough I guess
I might make my weakaura flash red or something when it's below 3 seconds or so on shield block
Most of my unblocked hits come from gathering pulls
Even when I have 99% block uptime, but only 95% blocked hits, most of it is from gathering pulls
I'll just convince my brain that SB down = dead
Even tho it hasn't been an issue, not like I die a lot
I definitely forget to use it when I'm pulling packs
So, realize this is a long shot, but has anyone had an experience where Mythic Sennarth seems to randomly Web Blast a DPS and kill them, even though they were no where close on threat?
both tanks out of range
usually during the web pull
except, kill them? don't think any of our dps that got hit actually died from 1 blast
Interesting, I wasn't aware web blast had a range. Seems to be able to hit me on the back of the platform.
But thank you!
That's how it should be treated
You learned that lesson in SL
SB down for 0.2sec = dead pwar
I played Prot Paladin in Legion (and Arms war for a bit), then didn't play til DF :)
Like in SL you'd insta flop with SB down
Kinda wanna learn arms here so I can do some chill dungeons to farm concentrated focuses
tanking is a little annoying when people keep fucking it up with buttpulls and stuff
Literally just did a 16 CoS and some retri paladin didn't know to jump after lockdown
yeah raw autos were hitting different in SL
should I just press SB every time I get a charge and it won't go over the cap?
damn I should just be mashing it
Yeah basically you only don't press it if you're moving to a new pack
I have a nasty of habit of using IP way too much too
but I'm slowly getting better
in retro spec the talents i used for that 15 today are terrible for that dungeon
kick and spell block, got somuch use outofit...
I specced fear and no joke it's so useful
my puggers never fuckin interrupt some really critical moments (after I've already used everything else)
and it clutches the run
my face when the imps aren't being cc'd on CoS
mfw target capped fear on imps
its too volatile on fear for me to like it, or toxic potion
might save someone tho
any change to AV first pull this week?
Isn't that still the case? Dropping Shield Block for even one second is like instant death in dungeons
I get bitched by most raid bosses without shield block. M terros one shot me, granted I had a stack, but it was still a nice little welcome
lol! true story
You prolly had the debuff from the raid boss
That increases dmg taken by 50 or 100%, can't remember the exactly value
Cuz when I tanked that boss with only 85% block uptime, I barely lost hp
Hm it does seem like opalfang does melee semi hard
But on average the unblocked hit from him is still only 160k
And it's raid, that is super irrelevant dmg intake
Those aren't what I run normally I was just trying new stuff. Also I think bolster has it's uses
Decided against both anyway lol
Thoughts on routing for azure vaults this week?
Geez, it was just an example. Here's a real log from an actual dungeon. No debuff, just white melees and a couple of tankbusters. 1.45s from dropping Shield Block to death
Any tips for egg tanking on brood? Im getting trucked on Heroic
How actually bad is mastery for us boys? I'm a Fury main with lots of mastery stuff
It's less good than the other 3 secondaries. But it's still a good stat.
How do most people sim for M+? Do you use dungeon slice, or just patchwork with more bosses?
man i stop doing m+ for like 3 weeks now all the gobloids have reached the 20 pug key level
The latter. We don't have a proper APL for dungeon slice.
Thanks, just do something like 1 /3 /5?
