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and 2 dps each need to do an egg
tell your group you will do the closest one each time and tank her on that egg
I see, 3 people need to grab the laser - idk why i thought the laser could cut 2 eggs on herioc. thank you
yep!
there will be 2 eggs with timers, they have to be destroyed, and then there is one bonus egg on heroic that will be glowing
the map i found looks like this - we d the bonus egg on the three packs i assume?
you can get 3 each time
The route is so set in stone now I just put markers on the exact eggs I'm going to break in the 3-packs. So dps know when they have to be on it.
oh that's a great idea - thank you
there will always be 3 eggs available to break, 2 required. They will always be the 3 eggs closest to her.
I dont get why they break 3 eggs on 4 instead of 6
You can do 6
we just broke 3 each time when i was doing it
We did last night in 10man
room was cleared super fast lol
We swapped to 6 from 4 so people had CDs again
Yes but like healers are sweating if you always do 3
everyones so geared now, healers need something to do
Fair enough
if you time it out though and dont break all of them at the same exact time, you should be okay
our healers are not quite there so we will probably alternate
I appreciate the help
ive been getting more crit and less verse lately too
i'm 411 and I feel big enough to not need verse anymore
TFW vers was a sad meme and you never needed it
maybe in the lower levels on the climb to 400+ verse was good, i think.
Vers was pretty cool when you could corruption it up to stupid %s lol
You do not need it now
yes it's true, i don't need it anymore.
Even then it was a sad meme
I agree totally
standing 500k HP unbuffed
Since you pass it twice, try for the first and clean it up on the second pass if one gets missed. Gives a slight amount of contingency.
I still run a decent amount of vers
I mean if it's what you're ilvl gets you
3415 vs currently
Plenty of hp to min max in raid by dropping the 15%hp from talents LUL
but i don't even use the enduring acelartiy talent
anyone have any tips for the dathea platform adds without any dks?
is a primal ritualshell still worth using on a fresh alt with the absorb procc?
run disrupting shout
that brings me to 513k unbuffed
disrupting shout
I run disrupting shout charge big add, use DS and kite to the farthest add
beat you to it Illy
you did
disrupting shout is king
how big is the range compared to the adds? will it hit them all or just 4/6?
that's how you do it, since i don't think DS can interupt all of them.
I'm usually off center left of the big add to reach the left-most add, then drag them all right.
should hit em all if you position correctly
4 + big one
i DS the side with most adds
generally speaking you are best off just running it as fire proc
if you miss one, someone just need to get a kick on it
Then kite to the other ones
4+big yeah
@karmic plinth thank you, thats what i was wondering
the absorb proc is a little overkill
fire proc is good
my warr is only 385 ilvl ish
only got ass trinkets atm xD
just gotten this 382 ritualshell
i was running shell and the blazing trinket for a while lol
382 fire proc is gonna do well for a while
pwar gonna get nerfed to the ground in s2?
You pretty much will run that until you get like rumbling ruby
I sure would hope not since tanks are all very capable of the same level of content
-bear
lol
doesnt prot do a lot more damage than other tanks?
DH rips too
our damage is very middle of the road
Their justification for the last nerf - "prot warrior is dominating player population"
so, if there are too many people playing it, they nerf it?
Yeah because it’s easier to get into than freaking piano playing a monk
there is such thing as being too popular
Makes sense that would make fewer people play it
sometimes you slap a placebo nerf to make people play something else
Maybe get rid of button bloat and player population will spread out to other tanks lol
there are cases to be made for playing ppally and bdk
I enjoyed Blood DK last season, I see a lot of paladins in the key completion feeds
you guys know when your brez is the first to die in a key? not really an issue if you play those two tanks
unless you play bear, then your brez is still the first to die
Gotta run brez bracers for maximum carry
Like literally go watch zmok do a +20 ruby without a healer, tbf they ran off healing classes but still
Paladin is just fine
I'm last in the line for brez
lol I use them in raid too! 😅
tbh pal has a very nice toolkit and offhealing capabilities
Totally
if brackenhide is in the rotation s2 as well, ppal will shine there
DH is solid too pumps big dam and has a massive silence utility
Cheat death etc
YouTube causes these problems
yeah, i feel like dh just falls off in high keys though
tanks are def very lcose with each other now
Not class design
Any idea how many more weeks we have in season 1?
With the exception of bear currently
they should reverse the frailty nerf on dh
probably like 3 months
dh got over nerfed on both specs mo
Agreed
well yeah, veng suffered due to the havoc nerfs as well
Oh ok damn, I'm almost 2400 guess there is no rush
magic dam mitigation is king this xpac for tanks
Hey - BigWigs - it opens nothing in DF Dungeons i wanted to give some abilitys other sounds?! 😦 anyone knows why? Is it not ingame atm?
and spell reflect is busted 😛
littlewigs
is the dungeon version
u do your options in Bigwigs - little wigs just grab infos and put it into it or not?
You can grab both addons and then forget about it
i have both
Unless you need specific customization
you do /bigwigs for options and there is a dungeon bosses tab
yeah i did, like i said i cant change DF dungeons
there is also a real nice WA package for s1 df dungeons, I would grab that too
i already have it
you dont see this?
https://prnt.sc/89Hs5eV4p04T so they didnt do it for german client i think
that is the opposite of wunderbar
😄 gj
yeah, same version as me too
the struggle again... i cant explain my friends things in english client - cause they dont find it then....and now it holds me back
any specific talents for mythic eranog and primal council?

there are some builds on wowhead for each raid boss, but id say for those two nothing really changes build wise
aoe for council obvi
thank you
!stats
haste
Hey, I am new to tanking in Dragonflight. It probably isn't ideal but can I just macro Shield Block into Shield Slam if I am using the spec for 100 percent uptime on Shield Block?
For M+ if I am the only tank what is the downside to it?
You don’t want to macro them together
Because you will spend charges and then run out of block
You can macro SS and IP together though no?
Nah you can macro ss into ignore pain, but you still want a separate bind for ss
Right
how do we feel about this as prot
Useless
Is there a list somewhere of which classes can dispel what?
2nd boss in CoS this week is toxic. 😂
they'll need to talent it
Any, yeah
the ones with the + are healer only, basically just magic dispels
a LOT of default/cookie cutter talent builds for M+ will omit their dispels tho
so good thing to talk about before you start the key
Question: I’m sitting around 25% haste when I’m just chilling in Valdrakken. Is this enough haste to talent ITF over HR?
ITF vs hr is relatively haste agnostic
U go ITF if you can garuntee 5 stacks
is the darkmoon dance trinket at 418 any good for prot?
idk if I like storm-eater's boon for m+
Is storm eaters boon the uncapped aoe thing that guarantees you die instantly when you press it?
the one that immobilizes you yeah
I like it in very specific spots in specific dungeons
But I want a whetstone 
fire too hard to dodge
I only died after healer did xd
Yeah I've never seen whetstone drop
I'm using decoration and spiteful storm, only because those are what have dropped for me
bis trinkets = ones you have
no doubt
oh no wait, i forgot i got a heroic rumbling ruby
so not spiteful storm (that was norm)
as a dh main, i'm sorry ❤️
spiteful is nice in raid
and those tyrannical runs where the only thing that matters really is boss damage
pretty casual
Quick question is Strike twice anygood?
free dmg
free effect, doesnt eat budget, we'll use
Who usually grabs orbs on vex in AA? Tank gets like 2 at most right?
Was with Az group and they're flamign me for not taking all 5 plus no dispel on me.. had like 9 stacks at one point
you can /ignore them
Just wanna make sure I wasn't living in some alternate reality
Spell Reflect does nothing with Searing Blows ight?
how much haste is too much
it does not. it does, however, help a bit with the inferno that comes right before.
I see
pretty sure it's 10% diminishing returns (from rating) at 30% haste. 20% diminishing returns (from rating) at 40% haste.
does dractyr skill to remove bleed works on it?
solid, im sitting at 4187 which is 27% so id say its about time to get some other stats
disagree
even over 30% is fine. and you're unlikely to hit 40%. I wouldn't worry about it at all tbh.
haste is an extremely strong offensive and defensive stat
even if you're eating a small amount of diminishing returns
we did it team
Been doing 10-13 keys with friends and gotten more than mildly frustrated about them not interrupting. Then one of them said "I have to know which mob casts to be able to interrupt", so it hits me, they are playing without enemy nameplates.
still they need to know what spell does what, same with stuns
guess it takes long time to learn when u acutally arent seeing effects of the casts on lower keys
how is bdk survivability? buffs are all dps.
they've got it all except damage on live tbh
they were the only other RWF tank, decent rep in high keys
has AV skip been fixed?
Will there be bdk buffs??
Ah missed that. Ty
This is good less likely to get prot* nerfs
you guys know if azure vault skip have been fixed or we still can? someone told me he intant died trying to jump down
did it on +22 couple hours ago
yah bro just spin around with the frontal to get all 5 they'll love that lmfaoooo
bruh ive got 0 motivation to do anything in wow but farm M+ score bit by bit
I dont even enjoy it
my score isnt even good
so stop playing
everyone dies unles they have a slow fall or a leap of some sort. Most healers can get down there and mass res your warlock and monk buddies lol
think I gotta reset my brain
prot still giga
just watched dorki do it like 5mins ago
Go level a healer and push- fun to do something different from time to time
healer output feels more relevent than usual rn
yeah but arms is a fun break after tanking for the last 8 weeks
literally immortal
bdk was already better defensively in 6/8 keys than pwar
they only lacked dmg output to be meta or on the same level as pwar
not that in general tank survival is the push issue
Laughs in BrM main
Ait now I see why I dont get invites to 20s
Cuz everybody is 2.9k+ score and 415+
I was ok like 2 weeks ago xd
Gotta run your key >.<
It was an over-exaggeration but yeah
I just started a fake 21 AA group just to see who are these fkn tanks getting invited over me
Doubling down on that exaggeration by using words like legit. And io scores not close to those key levels but yeah
Like 15 sing ups in 1 min
All of them are 415+ and 2.8k score +
Most of them are act 2.9k score +
I wouldn't invite me either
Even dungeons I timed at 20+
No reason to invite me
Then run your key? If people signing up they don’t care about your score
17 ain’t bad. That’s two runs to fix it and two more orbs
Two steps closer to 415ilvl
More chances for sparks
Bit butthurt this expansion with crafted gear being so broken
But there being a valor cap
Can’t complain about the average ilvl and then crafted gear in the same sentence lol
I have 70 gold
And I wont farm gold
I cant buy a token cuz region locked
My crafteds are 412
xd
Legit sitting on extra 3-4 ilvls if I had ideal crafteds
You have any professions ?
or no valor cap
Im BS / Engi
I do mining and JC on an alt dk
And enchanting / mining on an alt pala
That's how I got my initial 412 crafts
Mans just complaining about anything
Sounds like you can make gold without farming
I legit will complain about anything btw
“People’s ilvl are too high”
“Crafted gear is busted”
Games never been more accessible
It will be what it should have been
Not as massive as you think
^
there are other sources of purchased gold
But legit cant farm anything but couple M+s
if you're adamant about not farming
Poggers
Well instead farm mining and make like 50k an hour
Gonna get this dude the fucking ban hammer giving him an effective 0 ilvl lol
Mistake #1
Live in a shit country and play on a shit server.
Not for buying wow tokens obviously

There is legit no country better than Canada
Maybe Singapore or Australia
Wtf
😀
God save the Queen brother
Next you’ll say Yemen is a relaxation vacation destination
If you are wealthy enough
Bet you can buy a wow token in Yemen though
Yemen isn’t eu
whats the deal with catalysts? does every character on your account get a stack each week or is it a stack per week on your account that any character can use.
Wdym, Yemen is right next to the UK
The former
My key is so dead that anyone who applies to AA 17 isn't even capable of completing AA 17
my warrior only has 1 catalyst and I havent used a single one
but I did use one this week on my DH
Yemens in Asia
It's a display bug
My bad, cuh
really?
ohh ok thats good
17AA?
Algethar Academy
Free key bud, just invite people who arent 2.9k and 415 ilvl
Werent you just talking about that?
And defo it isnt progress for any of us
people will farm 16-17 for easy infusion shard things
teleport ring today sent me to uldir
^
btw any infos to shards, someone told me he got one at "farming the holes"
dragon shards of knowledge are from any activity yeah. clickies, rares, event completions. just very low chance
wow +20 SMBG
and a DH trolls the entire key by pulling Spider pack on top of worm pack
he fucking pulled 13 ontop of worm
while i said in start we do normal route
and he still goes and ninja pulls
you can +3 SMB while half asleep, why even bother trying to speed it up
idk bro
shadowpriest insta left after the wipe cus of that ninja pull 😄
boosted russian priest pulling 64k dps though
kinda yikes
why do people wanna control keys so bad
when they can just W and its timed
fucking hell man im so mad
How the f do you live 5 jade casts in temple if the evoker is doing less HPS than you in a 22
how can a group even manage to get 5 casts jeez
I guess... I nearly broke my IP button 🤭
fucking hell
shouldnt be my key going down 1
when its literally 1 specific guy trolling
that causes the entire key
fuck im mad
:(
DHs are super risky man, some good ones but way too many morons
Russian Spriest 2700 r.io not breaking 70k dps
Hunter+DH 2man premade with 10x 20+s done each
and they fucking troll the entire key
literally best player was the Druid who only timed 1 +20
I never invite either of those classes lately
Thing is... you want a DH in your group
you don't want DH players in your group
get it :D
he died on 1st pack after 1st boss SMBG
releases back to entrance
and walks the FUCKING WRONG WAY AROUND
and ninja pulls
has to die and get ressed anyway
bruh LMAO
idk how you can be so braindead honestly
some people having 2600+ r.io boggles me
and at this point i just dont rly feel like pushing keys anyway
1st pack after 1st boss has funky mobs that ignore threat table
nah
yea him dying isnt what im mad at tbh
you need to hold aggro on the dominators
but him releasing, walking wrong way, and ninja pulling
Ye ik
is ridiculous
spirits aggro table are based off the dominators
so you just interrupt the fathest one
cant you just taunt it?
it ignores it
cant taunt them
for some reaosn
The first 2 dominated mobs work fine, but the one from the patrol isn't
hmm weird i never rly had issue
but i might have Ravager + Roar every time im there
should be possible to hit all 3 Dominators with Roar
thats because youre stacked around the first two dominators and not the third so cleave damage rips aggro on it from you
then the soul runs off and beats your healer up
oh well fkt his game
im going to bed fuming i guess
fucking hell
free timed +20 and this shit...
i just wanted a new key, dont even need +20 SMBG for score
I found a new hobby that relaxes me
got to the last boss with 15 mins left last night, we didnt time the key
people couldnt just walk straight thru the window
Yo thanks for this tip
I actually didn't know that
rip
And getting showered with praise
yeah i just learned that the other day lol
super easy to deal with interrupting one dominator
at this point doing +16 and below is just boring when being 405+ ilvl
you get praised by wrecking their key? 🤔
Failed +14 SMG because people can't stop stepping in purple
how exactly does a shadow priest have 16k dps?
Wrecking as in being top dps as tank
they love that purple
and he had a go at me for tanking the boss at the bone wall?
🤣 ah
ye i do that as well
but after a bit it gets boring since i get nothing from it
At that point Yam just close chat lol
no score, no gear, no nothing
i guess i could get some quick valor, and upgrade my Big Toe trinket 🤔
How dare you assist with the adds and cleaving
filthy animal
402 Rumbling Ruby seems a bit lackluster compared to 415 Big Toe
Lmao
I'm the dps killing stuff is MY job
We're dps with a shield
God damn tanks takin' mer jerbs
I am confused, where would you put the boss if not close to the wall for easy wave baits?
📈
We are dps with the aggro

Healer is the dps that off-heals
having raid trinkets when i only do HC feels so bad, when it tanks overall ivll so much :<
I mean to be fair it's fairly easy to top DPS as protwarr until they're like 2800+
This retri saw that I was low hp
And bubble taunted craw for a lil bit
Like
For the big hit
I never respected a DPS player
Gamer
that's nice of him
Nome I fucking love the Crit Change we talked about 😊

Feels superb good, don't miss the 10% Vers I dropped for 15% Crit
I'm so fucking annoyed, wasted 40 minutes on that key trying to finish it even with that shit team
crit change? 🤔
I should just leave if the key feels like shit before the first boss
@craggy pilot I went from Haste Vers to Haste Crit* in that sense
i was considering changing my 500 haste wrist to pure crit 🤣
They should buff slam and give us a single target rage dump
engi wrist with pure crit would be sick
Imagine dat
I was a bit sad when I did keys today, thought I'd do more dmg, my AA overall on tree got stolen
Mad cuz bad
is there a list of good talent picks for specific dungeons?
The worse the player, the more they get upset over the littlest things
Play the one in pins labeled as "best m+ imo" and only swap Spellblock based on dungeon
I get time to do exactly 1 key a week, so when someone fucks that up for me - that is my one chance a week gone. No loot. No nothing. This is why.
Boom, done
there is difference of fucked up key, and straight up inted key
if you have time for 1 key a week, then do something lower instead of pushing higher keys
Am I missing out on spellblock
like if you die cus heal cant heal Hyrja aoe or something
Legit never touched it
its like "ok we tried, gl next"
but if someone intentionally pull more shit that the tank/heal isnt rdy for
Pushing is the goal of doing keys - even if you can only do one, you want to make sure that single one is higher than your last one. Always strive to push yourself
i like to spellblock these first slashers in burial grounds 
bad take
U can take 3 steps away from them as they cast btw
And they dont hit
Than walk back maybe 1 sec dps downtime
TC stil lhits
I tried to step out of range of the slash, like on the Maidens, yet didn't get it to work. Is it like a 10y range?
I think 10 yd is safe
you push by practise, there will be fuckups, if you will burn 4 keys to make another one clean, in your case this example will take over a month
Not taking spellblock in most high keys is trolling it's a 20 seconds shield wall on a short cd against a lot of mechanics
I know, im just lazy and prefer to stand in place and pew pew them 😄
were not talking about fuckups though
Me 2 brother xd
youre not reading 😄
were talking about people straight inting keys
people ninja pulling
leaving when still timeable
etc
Ninjapulls are not fuck ups tho.
shit happens that DPS people just go to next pack and pull it on top of boss?
😄
bro
i did 150+ keys
yes, because alot of people are stupid
1st time i had someone else try to pull for me
if you play with pugs - thats what happens
I think for Nokhud fortified
Using 2 prot warrs can be justfiable
and had it happen only today
Thoguhts?
why stop at 2?
as I said - sh*t happens
lol
based on the smell, Jawor is that sh*t that happens 
🤣
I mean if you're giving up spell block for 10% bleed dam or smth in decent keys you're just a walking meme
nah, I dont pug
?
you take Armor Spikes though
not bleed dam
We should do some keys together warrior brothers
and im tank so 
wdym? tank is usually the main reason for fuckups

what keys you doing Jawor? just for interest?
if you are tank, complaining about shitty dps, its quite hard to complain about other tanks
a wipe is usually a group effort and confluence of things not going correctly as they should
20-21 for now, me and my friends arent great at doing dmg
i know its not much, but thats the level we are for now
tank stands in fire, thats hard to fix
having the "shit happens" mentality when you dont pug is just straight up different though
since you play with the same people, you know theyre not intentionally trying to fuck over the key
ive done few keys with pugs this season, alot in previous seasons, i just dont pug on daily basis
most pugs also doesnt do this intentionally, except shitty behaviour like leaving key etc., thats something different
I do complain about DPS (in my head or here) when in overalls the DPSers dont 1.5x me
thats also what i said?
At that point running tanks instead them gives a better result
i said the guy was straight inting my key
first time i had it happen in a long time
Btw, Jawor, just advice - if you are playing with the same team and you feel they are doing bad DPS. Communicate with them and see where you can help them out. Get pulls planned out that will fit their CDs, I promise huge gains on the meters for all.
so what? it happens once per season or something, as I said, shit happens
yea we are working on this, but i dont have one 5man team, just different guildmates
Fair enough, been there done that. Shit takes work, but ya'll get em rolling. Just keep in mind, in 90% of the cases, it is the pulling that keeps DPS back - not the DPS themselves.
unless they dont clean thundering or stay in rain of arrows 
just bring up the preventable damage taken charts
If they struggle with thundering, go intervene, arrows can be stunned/cc'd by you 
shit happens sure, its if you identify the problem and learn to adapt to it or no
If you gotta waste your stun on easily dodgable arrows, easier to just find a better player lol
Guildies are guildies sadly.
its not like they struggle, usually people tries to mnimax or just dont pay attention to it and when they realize - its too late
So... I thought about this and I think it's wise to take the L after discussing with Nome.
Hello fellow kids,
I'm a 2839 Protwarrior who just learned that our IV Selfheal is useable every 25s and ... not only if we get a killing blow.
I have no idea why I hardcoded that thought into my mind and made my WA only trigger the resets, not track the CD.
I'll show myself out, feel free to screenshot. 😂
yeh I guess I've never had a legit guild, just one buddy that I play with
fk my life.
yeah IV is the improved version of the ability you're thinking of lol
🫂
Haha I thought this for like half of the way to 70
then I realized I can just use on CD
i feel so baaaad+
is IV always worth using when you're getting destroyed? say on rlp 2nd boss, is the rage better spent on IV as opposed to yet another IP?
im old man as well
its 30% of your max hp, thats alot
That is why we tank - so we can blink.
blink and you don't have DR / aggro fixed it
The only m+ mechanic I feel is too fast is the circle after the kick on the 3rd tjs boss
i just feel like some games are really fast
and wow is pretty close to that, but it can be difficult to keep up remembering what to kick, what to stun, what to block, what to reflect, what to spell block
Games are a lot faster in general. Back in the day there was 1 hour CDs, today those are less than 20 sec. 30sec CDs are now 3 sec. Don't worry about it.
get some plater profiles to help you with that
there is already you are trying to remember the route and enemy mechanics
wow isn't a fast paced game maybe it looks fast when you're confused or tunnel visionning doing something you're not used to but this game doesn't require lightning fast reflexes like ever
and then you are keeping in mind all that other crap + frontals
Games are made for players, and playerbase is changing, thus games have to change. Most people prefer higher pace nowadays.
sure, i just don't want the confusion
and the speed is what leads to the confusion
Most to all confusion can be undone with WAs and prep-work. So it aint all doom and gloom. Just adaption.
got any pro tips for mage tower?
shield slam when its shiny
Wowhead guide for gear helps a lot - consumables are not overrated.
Do it as Fury hides
That sole change made us able to run with disc priest, I was super excited day one since I run with a disc
plater profiles in my case has given me a 30% buff to interrupt shit and prio targets, which helped keys, well, to keep it short, i stood in abunch of crap i wasn't supposed to on 14 AA 2 of them
didn't make it past the 2nd bird boss either of the like 3 times attempt
stood in crap
question for hyria in hov this week. i got beamed by 600k dmg with 530k hp on a 20+ . spellreflection was up. even when i can stacck some IP before, how is it possible to survive on even higher keys ? 😮
Dont stack debuff beyond 6 stacks, kil eyes, stun drain life, cleave infernals but don't get knocked off.
In p2 reflect twisted reflection and kill before 5th annihilate cast
Spell block /wall should be up everytime
Huh, on a 20?
y#
You should have demo up for 1,sw for the other
wall up everytime? 😮
spell reflect is up for every one of them
Defensive stance + SR + Max IP + max hp should be enough tho
guys read full text. i pressed spellreflect 😛
you have to use more than reflect
Yeah that's why it was chunking you
rotate cds
.... bro really
Git gud
Just have a WA that shows that you got SB up or need to get it up, a clear view of your healthbar and IP situation. Then all your focus can go to your toes.
Have a WA go "Meow" when tankbusters are coming, so you know to pop defencives as needed. Sound ques will let your eyes scan the terrain undisturbed.
Run away little girl, run away...
Wall+reflect one.. demo+reflect one.. if you have spell block, use that for one .. Defensive stance right before the beam.. plenty of options..
||B E W A R E ||
If the WA aint meowing, it aint working right.
I used to have reflectables be banana peel, block a eating crunch noise, and interupt bam punch
you can keep block up at all times now tho, so that aint needed anymore at least.
so, if something casted something that could be reflected, it would do the noise
Also - too many sounds, sounds... distracting.
They don't have the shotgun anymore right? Just the loading shotgun
d_gun1
Ah, ty ty
That's the best one imo
Meow comes close second
Kitty Kitty gang gang
Use a let fly weakaura
ok second attempt at SBG +14
what would you guys use your first 5 sparks on for a fresh prot war for m+?
people are incapable of the final boss on tyranical
good idea
but im too retarded to know how to extract voice lines and then put them in a WA
Wtf dude? Tell me where that is so I can avoid it
Depends on drops… I’d do wep and shield and just kinda wait a week or two and see what you really need
or at least, it would take a while
shield, 1hander, chest, lariat and frostfire belt.
Probably weapon shield lariat belt and whatever fit last
legends
I downloaded a dungeon weakauras pack then I levelled up an alt an on the first uldaman boss it spammed some really loud sea shanty when they're on the boats
I don't think that's a weak aura
I don't have the default game sounds on tho
i have everything sound on and music loop, but all at 3-15% volume
little bit exaggerated but sure lol
Man, why is everyone I invite doing worse dps than me
at what rating do dps start doing more dps than the tank?
we still going for frozen devotion on weapon or sophic?
I'm so tired of this
2700 im usually 10-15k under my top dps
pretty cringe and makes me just wanna play arms in every key
does anyone know what the rules are regarding trading your m+ key? sometimes can sometimes cant, what are the rules for it
If your key was the same level or lower than the timed key
thought soi, ty
does spell block work for hyrja
Yes
ty ❤️
spell reflect works too. YOu might not need spell block since youll have spell reflect for each buster and we're normally chilling for the storm
also the cheese tech is very nice to mitigate group damage if oyu can pull it off
yeah been practicing the timing on it
Man I want my 4pc but I'm getting really unlucky with gear to convert. Should I spend some of my 6750 valor on my 6/13 gloves from SMBG?
That'll get me 4pc
valor cap removed next week, blow it
really?
https://www.wowhead.com/news/conquest-and-valor-caps-removed-on-february-14th-331314
2/14, but this is great
gloves are our worst tier item.
holy shiiiiit
It still gets me 4pc
where giant scary dragon
why not do your helm/chest/shoulder/legs instead?
raza is pretty good boss dragon atm, but we need bigger meaner dragon
noob question do u need to keep up shield block in ruby life pools 1st boss?
I actually watched the rp after an lfr while farming draconic augment runes... those 3 floating dragons in the balls break free. I'm already terrified of the earth dragon.
u need to keep up shield block regardless, and thats fairly easy to do now with suggested talents a good rotation
bc SB is SS +30%
spell block on balls i noted some weeks ago
no idea if it changed
that's a don't get hit by that balls thing though,
I meant for the beam
so just gives you damage? not survivability
stuff dyin means they do less dam to you
but yeah also like 30% of incoming dam is autos
Both spell block and spell reflect (the DR) work on the beam
thank you
it gives both and there is most times "attack monster (doing mehanics implied) until it dies, repeat until exiting level"
BSV still bugged?
Yes
kk, about to do this RLP 20 and the first boss is more of a pain than the 2nd lol
RLP 20 key for the second boss, how do you used your defensive when the boss used the god damn 4 stacks tank buster. I have my shield block on and demo shout, plus I have to use impending victory to stay alive. If my demoshout is on CD I have to used shield wall but if I don't have shield wall and demo shout I am basically dead.
Any other way to tank this the easy way?
i think the sim is gonna say take the jeweled signet of melandrus over the seal of filial duty but what do u guys think? i have the unstable frostfire belt and the seal of filial duty that triggers the effect
yeah +104 dps if i swap the jeweled signet of melandrus for seal of filial duty
Pretty sure those are just the world bosses.
Helps to preplan CDs with healer too
And don’t forget Evoker bleed cleanse if available
After elemental lariat, what's usually the best slot to craft? Lowest ilvl slot? Weapon?
Lariat nothing special imo
Not sure id craft it first/at all if I did it all over again
well I already have it, so just wondering what I should get next or if it matters
100 dps or like 1.5k hps. use filial on push, signet on anything that isnt yep
Ty
so like
about the trade off between damage and def
for sophic dev o frozen dev
how do you guys choose
Anyone knows uptime for diurna ring ?
Does anyone else who queue for Heroic and they are giving our Draconic packs. It takes forever for the dungeon to come up?
frozen isnt even that much damage
go sophic
I'll be disappointed if thats true, heck
Frozen is a very good damage proc is why
If you're just concerned about raw damage, you can sim it
Afaik sophic needs higher stats to pull ahead but Im not 100% sure on that
yes i had a 15 min wait to tank a heroic earlier
No, they're not the world bosses
it does do higher damage
but the gap isnt large
and doesnt scale well with targets
Oh uncapped valor from 14th 🙂 nice
One question: DS only applies damage reduction on dots if applied before the dot is applied, isn’t it?
I mean, i 2nd boss RLP applies dot and then DS, the damage is not reduced for the dot
It works like this?
Almost all damage reduction affects all damage intake if that type of damage can be reduced.
Snapshotting isn't a thing for tank mechanics barring weirdly specific corner cases.
If you get a full rack of dots from an Aff lock you can Demo shout them and the damage you take will be less.
But when is a dot the damage is already applied, but delivered trough time
Even if you demo after being applied?
Demo shout post-application still works to reduce dot damage, yes.
Whose dots are they? The enemy. Is that enemy shouted? Yes. They do 20% less damage.
What if the demo don’t hit the applier
Then no.
You have to hit a target with Demo Shout for the debuff to actually... you know.
Do it's thing.
Thanks!
not much
I'm runnin this here build about to go inth AA, figure I might wanna pick up bitter immunity but don't know what to swap
pls help XD
Why bitter immunity?
don't have poison cleanse for tree
sadly in some pugs its needed
pug a 18 today no one else cc them and we did not nuke them if i did not have it would of wiped had like 60 stacks
22% uptime on shield block in primal council HC is pretty bad no?
223leech vs 1 socket. which would ya'll prefer?
socket probably
I can always add a socket. Leech has to be proc’d
hi... if yall dont mind me asking, at what point would yall think is it worth to replace the arcane assembly shield ring? it's still doing about 550-900k absorbs on fights
415 strike twice or 418 primal molten longsword better
not sure, but remember it also gives less stats than a normal ring, so maybe +10/15 ilvls? i was maining dk at the beginning, but isnt dps better aswell?
you could prob just swap out the ring for when you see value in the shield, eg temple or AV
shout is too op
Where did you get that 22% from?
How is that even possible.
a tank in my guild had that
Where did you get the numbers from
send him the shield block weakaura and then he can never be confused about whether or not he has shield block up
You almost need to deliberately not press shield block to get 22%
418 longsword
ill send him a WA and see if he improves
Tell him his dps will increase if he gets higher shield block uptime
But I am also sceptical on wether that 22% you say is correct
@unkempt lynx i just think that anybody in a tanking role has to be looking at anything / everything for where to improve and if that is his % on shield block he should be willing to at least track it further to increase usages otherwise its kinda trolling
Bro that guy is fucking trolling lol
he's forgetting to press it ig

thats kinda impressive
Whoa
we kill the boss no problem its just annoying to babysit the tank tbh
Understandably so
Who is your raid leader? They need to know this guy has legit never looked at a tooltip or guide in his life
savage
you dont need to go straight to the class teacher to tell them the kids are smoking behind the shed, at least approach the kids and let them know smoking is bad for them first
thanks for the tips 🙂
Nah sometimes you just gotta put them down
guys just to be sure,how much haste before itf to be able to safely swape out of HR?
35%
meaning with itf it goes to 45 percent yes?
owww yes that was what made me confused,so with enduring alacrity i have 33 percent now
trying to get there :((
I mean, that's a shit talent to take :/
Point him too some prot warr guides. Is he a fotm reroller? Maybe he thinks it's a on use defensive rather than a must have up
doest it worth swapping seal of chosen for lower ilvl melanderus ring?
i have frostfire belt too
thunderlord
Errr, that's impossible though.
What are you losing in the bottom to take it
Enduring Alacrity is in the 20 point tier, which means you have to lose something in the 20 point tier to use it.
i dont have battering ram too
Yeah there's no chance it's even comparable with battering ram
so no thunderlord no enduring but battering ram huh?
Swapping to ItF isn't a goal. It's a thing you can do when you get to a certain point if you want to.
Correct
i love that style, i will get there :S
If I use my hoof instead of whetstone I’m at 39% without rune @warm plinth
Better be a shit whetstone and a hench hoof
I doubt the swap to ITF is gonna make the diff on a BIS trinket like whet
Yeah I don’t think so either
Could replace totem instead but doubt it’s worth it
40% haste without ITF is super tempting tho
If you’re not needing to run icon for your raid
what makes totem better than rumbbling ruby?
It incorporates a more aggressive icon which commands respect when people inspect you
any weakaura or something that can help you doing hyrja quazii stylee?
the polarity thing
Yo, I died to a Wind Burst from Raging Tempest in Nokhud Offensive yesterday while my Spell Reflection was up. Is that a known bug? First time it happend to me. I was mid charge if that changes anything
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JyaW6DH4cY713QRk/#fight=last&type=deaths&death=1
It;s not a bug it's a future
What should my base haste be to utilise avatar properly?
More.
trolling andies
10 %
there's no haste amount that "makes avatar work"
Don't you wanna cycle thunder clap every second GCD?
Don't you need it to be a certain amount in order not to be waiting for it to come off CD during avatar?
i know it was asked before but i can't find an answer. is the 418 darkmoon dance trinket a sim bait? or is it good for damage?
as far as I knoiw GCD scales with haste, so Thunderclap cd is always 2 GCDs during Avatar
cobalt dps ring seems pretty good (3% of dmg for m+ etc), seems like its not covered much in guides - any reason?
Good as it sims yep. Losing 500 secondary makes it partial meter bait tho
fair, sims do show it as 1.2% under CoS ring
Hi, in my case for low/middle key 16-17-18-19, is it really worth to stack versatility? to reach a poor 8% damage less 😕 crit give me parry, mastery chance to block, haste good so why should i focus on vers?
you shouldnt focus on vers
Where did u read that u should focus on it?
you shoudlnt
The main wowhead guide for example
So how do i actually know when to go for ilvl upgrade vs better stats on a lower ilvl item?
Si it's say that obviously ilvl/strengh, then haste, then vers, so yes it's a focus one
so in theory, should just stack ilvl > haste-verst?
any piece that has strength you take highest ilvl, on rings/necks you could probably drop a few ilvls to get haste
ah i see
But on those two feks, its better to take 226 haste over the verst and 10 strength gain?
no
Also do yourself a favor and delete Pawn
haha yeah not using it. Just forgot to disable it on my warrior^^
For those keys you don’t need to worry about stats at all and you will probably improve much more by just practising good rotation and pulling smooth in dungeons. Just equip highest ilvl and try to get good shield block uptime and as many shield slams as possible. Getting that muscle memory solid is worth more than min-maxing stats.
hey guys, what do you use to track your shield wall / ignore pain?
A weakaura
I am new to Prot and went through some weakauras and maybe found something good. Still curious to see what other people are using

you pressed reflect about .1 second too late the spell was already in the air so it didn't get reflected
I currently have 2 set only. Is there a massive difference between a 2set and a 4set?
A little bit but it’s not going to change your world. Don’t worry about it, I timed 20+ without it cause I don’t raid so if I can do it you can too!
What is tier? 
completely new prot warrior here. Is execute pressed a lot in mythic+ or should i not have it on my bar
Ah, I did not know that you need to have reflect up before the cast finishes. Thank you! 🙂
you can't mitigate/reflect spells that are already in the air tbf i didn't even know this cast had travel time but it looks like it does
do we go Crit/haste or Haste/vers for m+ ?
very good to know
anyone got lucky already with spark
Whatever u want.
crit haste makes it easier to flex into arms for OS
Hi guys, just leveled up my prot warrior, which pieces should I craft with the 5 sparks?
weapon,shield,frost belt then wait a week to see what drops from m+/raid and use your last 2 for your lowest ilvl pieces that dont screw you for tier
or maybe lariat adn save 1 spark up to you
ok, ty!
I found a spell reflect WA and I wanted to put an audio cue on it, but the audio always plays really late, it feels more like it plays when the reflect is successful rather than when detecting a reflectable spell. It should be here right?
depends what the trigger for the sound is
Original WA: https://wago.io/IkerOKywU Tells you when to reflect in Dragonflight dungeons and raids. Triggers only when
I also use spell reflect essentials and it calls when to reflect also on audio
Uhm. Mine doesn't
what is a good vault option
Take the ring it’s BiS af
and replace the nk ring ? or Duty
cos ring
usually if i see a link to one of those WA or wowhead pages, i at least click them once


