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so, this tells me its from 4 days ago, so now i need to locate the log
im dumb, whgats 4 days ago
29th? i' gotta dig through find wihch one it is, , i think thats 29th, im on it tho
see like, i have all these logs just from that day,
A few days ago someone posted a WA here to reflect every Lightning thing on last boss with correct timer. Can anyone share or quote it? Can’t find it with search or on wago?
Last nokhud boss*
ill let you guys know when i find the 15++ sbg
Shield block uptime is good for dmg aswell btw, not just blocking hits
i supressed this memory
Thanks
What % does the last mob in cos give now?
12/6.3% is what MDT says
6.32 to be precise
The .02 matters depending on route and buffs sometimes you get an exact 100
chrome
skill diff 
Running into the fray?
Nope
can be that you're getting hit in the back
If it's an issue of forgetting to block when it's off CD I have a weakaura that just says "next" when SB comes off CD
all the good talents for SB, but somehow details don’t get me 90% uptime, and I try really hard
Sometimes is I got no rage
I did what everyone said is stupid - my sb is bound to shield slam. Every run I logged I have >95% blocked hits so that’s good enough to me.
uptime doesnt mean shit if youre not actively blocking
@strong forum Do you know how much each % of haste effects SS cd?
Uptime only matters when you're getting hit. You might be hyperfocusing the wrong metric. Look at effective blocks instead of shield block uptime
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Jc9wvGrLMjh76T8g#fight=1 YOGI LOGS SBG 15 ++ fort bolstering week
for those who were interested
Will check logs
i mean...
you do the math

its % reduction
quite literally
base CD is 16seconds
if you have 100% haste
CD is 8 seconds
voila
could be worse 
i feel like i said smth wrong lemme reconfirm
what's the shortest a GCD can be in wow?
you got low cpm and low blocked hits. Also wasted 1k rage
because that's capped right?
lowest GCD can be is 0.75 seconds
.75 seconds
with 100% haste
kk tyty
Can you intervene / spell reflect last boss temple? I'm curious if it would be faster to 3 man that boss that way 
is it worth me going after the 405 recraft on my 402 weapon?
thought you'd need 100% to go from 16 -> 8
ilvl upgrade is always worth
yeah i think thats my error
ah so you need 100% haste to get it 0.75s got it
but if you're close to the item that allows you to get it to 408-418, then do that instead
i don't have the 16's thingy's just yet, once i do most keys on a 15 i would feel alot more confdent jumping into pug 16+'s
npnp ty
Then recraft 405 if you dont have anything else you can get a bigger upgrade off of recrafting with the same money, yes.
formula is like 100 / (100 + haste%) or something
15s are the new 9s, you'll have an easier time at 16s...usually
I'm assuming all hasted spells work like that then yeah?
ye
dope
yeah
which is why haste is so massive for us
That's uh...
its TC, SS cd reduction, rage gen and auto attack speed increase which also means SS CD reduction
i have to learn by do it
That's a problem that can be fixed in a lower key because the mechanics don't change
yo haste increases AA speed?
actually had no idea
Yeah it's CD/(1+haste) for hasted CDs so 50% haste is 10.67 sec CD
right and thats just exactly the thing
Cool thanks for updating after I sent the message mobile discord
i dont want to be applying for 17 keys, and then i have zero clue whats going on what to interupt stun face out move out
mobile discord is great isnt it
Yeah 🙄
Is there something you apply to weapons that gives attack power?
yogi u need to detach yourself from the shackles of caring about other peoples experience
you are the main character
join those keys and brick em
Like sharpening something
you can use a whetstone, but howling rune is better
whetstones/weightstones
typically find a route that works best for me, and then i just try to replicate it each run
Howling rune is 320 haste though for 2 hours and worth more for us
Ah, is one or another
Ok
Yogi, if you were to have a 5 man tank key on your 16s and ask ppl here to join, it'd get filled faster than Nome's
I often look at other routes on keystone guru and then work off of something similar.
But like, make it my own, you know?
What works for me inside the framework of what i need to kill haha
in the group of 4 cloth wearers and 1 protwarrior, tuant buttons are king
firebal, aggro, runs at mage, melee, 400k basic melee, dead
shoulda waited for 3 stacks of sunder armor before dps
sounds like a mage problem
I do NOT miss that.
threat has always played a role in wow
a dps sneezes and pulls agggro
its core to DND priniciples
anyone have a good "when to spell block" weak aura or plater profile?
i main prot but i also like arms. would it be foolish or a waste of time to try and get set pieces for arms once ive completed my prot set?
ait
I mean I play a resto druid on the side, so I dont think it would be a waste
removed 1 of my laptop fans cuz bitch was too loud
Bro it's your time, if you enjoy arms, build out an arms set too
I have a cooling pad so might just work fine
Got chrome runnin
lemme hit up wow xd
i wish there was an after mdt route comparison
you put these mobs on your route, but you instead pulled these and killed them at this time, this was 4 minutes behind your average time
is that on ur cpu?
If you switch spec, your tier set will switch with it. All you need is a good 2h (+trinkets)
yes, do you have a basic stock cooler installed on it?
Your gear should work mostly
the cooler unit fan
well, if its the stock one that came with it, replace it with a tower cooler
btw this is a laptop
Lemme put an icepack underneat LMAO
thats toasting man
pretty sur they aren't made to go higher than 98
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get that fan replaced asap
why i will never buy laptop
its all clean bruh
but if you use them i respect it too, understand the appeal
i can clean fans if I can remove em x
was in university when I bought this
basically was a requirement
I got money to buy a desktop but
the cpu and gpu arent dead
so why
the joke im making is that they are good machines and i even use them sometimes, but they are, it is what it is
and you are stuck with what you got till you buy a new one
and if you take it apart, you'll never get it back together once you fixed the issue
i can move my desk next to the window
its -15 outside
if I touch the back of the pc to the glass xd
because the heat is going to kill it sooner than later and you should be ready for that with a replacement.
If u have this option laptop isn’t too bad
Ye if I let the canadian winter it it will be cool lmao
rn with external fan pad and 1 fan its stabilized at 92 degrees while playnigg wow
But otherwise we 
Wish there was an addon at wow that showed CPU temp
92 c?
laptops in 2023
ye C
That’s pretty hot
I learned my lesson 12 years ago, never again laptop gaming
Nome dropping frames for raytracing
Just waiting till it dies now to buy a desktop
RT is a scam
With my banker salary xd
virus 19, stay at home 2 weeks, work from home.... ** L A P T O P S **
82 f where I am
ngl u can finance desktops pretty decently $50-$!00 a month
I may buy in cash tho cuz fk these rates
why not just get an ipad at that point
canada is omegalul
Zzz
wonder how much the frozen vegetable pack cools this down rn
cuz top of the laptop is cold asf
Dear lord
the copper heat distribution shit must eventually make it to the vegetable pack xd
Imay also completely remove the bottom on the laptop and tape it to my cooling pad
just let whatever comes in there
that'd 100% work
Cuz it has 5 fans in the cooling pad
entire heat sink surface would get hit
We get good deals from China even after the tariff
Hehehe yeh
Sounds like a very valid plan at this point, if that aint working the paste or pads have prolly dried out and needs replacing
Amazon delivering new fan and paste tommorow
So if I get to play some wow till then it ait
Thermal paste replacement is my least favorite part of computer building/upkeep
Most cpu fans are so cringe
lmaooo tru
I also removed my battery completely
Not worth the hastle of having it in
Well it didnt come on with the battery in it
This is starting to sound like the most jank frankenstein setup ever
So i think it was fked
Only gpu cpu and motherboard is the same in the laptop atm
Everything else is frankenstein
Sasdly my prev laptops fans didnt fit this ones socket
guess they update stuff
U just need some reinforced cardboard
And u could have a desktop
Basically a test board
My desktop 8 yrs ago was the biggest abomination
But for laptop parts
lool
I wait out all my parts to die b4 I buy a new thing
And its taking long this time around
Die or be useless
lmaoo
And link it before each m+
Oh thank you! I can't believe I didn't know that lol
btw if any of yall have cash nows the time to buy/upgrade ur pc
But only in cash not trough financing
Personal pc demand slumped and inventories are stacked
Unfortunately EU prices are still on the fucking moon with all the taxes
Nah no pets, no kids
No car
Big savings
- renting the apartment so no mortgage interest
On the way to becoming millionaires at 50
Wife doesnt work so
i think that new high end gaming laptops bult with the bottom cooling thing
If she did definitely
65
should be something like my drawing
lmao
Hoping to finish my CFA exams and get that charter
Than I should be making some $$
rip my wow time tho
oh yeah thats what I got
the cooling pad
Big time
same homie
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shield block gaps in df 
dang chicken breasts right under the heat sink reduced cpu temp by 4-5 degrees
will have to replace those
Its in plastic obv
from fridge to laptop to the grill hell yeah brother
From fridge to laptop to mouth
I’m also part of the laptop master race, but my laptop is fairly new
Could probably sous vide something if you connect your wayercooling radiator to a water tank
Wow doesn’t make it too hot
It's OK on my cpu but it makes the amd drivers shit the bed often
Trees popping in and out of existence
Sometimes shit just goes greenmode
The amd driver has been absolute shite as of late though
We tank
I couldn't disagree lol, the evidence has prevalence
I want a 3070 but I need a new chair
This isn't arms chat.
shiet its prot channel sorry

my thoughts on your solution
if you know, you know, if you don't, i hope i didnt send you down the rabbit hole
would it be bad to get 70crit/33haste fire gems for lariat and proc the crit buff? currently sitting at 2k crit and 3.4k vers using the haste/vers gems
just hit 2400 yesterday. i plan on getting to around 2500 this season and chillin with friends instead of hard pushing the higher stuff.
at this level of play (16s-19s) is running spell block necessary or should i run tough as nails for more damage?
im gunna try to get my professions to 100, see if i cant get as much of the knowledges as i want
whoops, the red color gem confused me lol
i mean you dont NEED it for those levels, but its nice sometimes.. mainly in temple tyrannical
I only ever spell block RLP and temple
ive been running spell block for a few weeks. and i find that im waiting the whole dungeon to use it two or three times during certain tyran hits. it feels like a waste when tough as nails hits pretty hard
good in av too on the piercing guys
and the captain's breath or the dragonstrikes you cant reflect
Doesn't seem worth it in AV. In 20s I've easily been able to stun lock or stagger them before they die on fort. Sr and shield wall get it done for anything else
There's so much trash that melees you
ya i think the play is to stun the piercing shards and not eat them either way. The dot stacks and hurts
I default to spell block in AV, RLP and Jade all the time, even if it's a drop on dps or threat when not using Tough As Nails. I still feel it's better to have the extra defensive available for specific packs/bosses
You can also shockwave both arcane buffs before they go off so they do 33% less damage then alternate shield charge and storm bolt on the 2 pack
Ideal, maybe not, but meh
U can almost reflect every Dark Claw in temple tho except last pack
I’m a fan of spell block also
Can be purged, better off saving aoe stun to stop shard casts imo.
Yeah probably. I pug all my runs can't really count on people to help me out
ya in pug you probably need spell block lol
I just mark one crystal as a focus kill and make sure the first 3 piercings don't go off
Shield wall good
our group just stuns all the casts
I always suggest when pugging to plan the dungeon like you are soloing it
Why would you not take spell block for AV 2nd boss tho
The second boss has never been an issue for me survivability wise
You can’t rely on them pugs man
Theres no damage going out that phase, so whats the difference between getting hit 20% with spell block or 50% of your hp without
In the intermission phase?
the cleave phase
Idk man have ip up spell reflect and impending victory for one shield wall another
It's not hard to live
TAN is ridic damage
do you guys play intervene outside of HoV/Temple for spiteful ?
Nop. If they die, they die.
I'll throw a stun, but I expect my DPS and heals to manage it
When I'm healing I will entangle on my resto doodad
i always fight with myself on what to drop if i ever do run intervene.. i do it for fenryr and last boss temple
I don't even run intervene in hov or temple actually.
i hate it.. i feel like its not worth
It probably ain't
is it worth going belf for torrent?
For fenryr I just let them handle it and on last boss temple I expect them to stack on me for the adds phase
Go nelf for SM
our monk gets blasted by his add on last boss temple, so i intervene him right as the adds come out
PFFT go Human for Will to Survive and say fuck stunnnnnnns
i hadnt even thought of human to counter bad thundering management
🙂
thats not bad
yea, but if you are gonna be alliance, at least be a dwarf or NE
how many dwarf cures are good in season one?
are the jewelcrafting trinkets any good? can't see them discussed in neither of the guides
Sims say they are meh
Prot Paladins are using the alchemist stone though.... but I think there are just better options for us
but I was curious myself, cause they seem like decent stat sticks
fair enough, thx!
Prot warr in general want good value onuse. Either as DPS or mitigation, based on what is needed. Two Def trinkets for Mrs Angry Jade Panda does wonders as an example
if it will ever drop!
If ya don't already got it. Farm more 
gotta get the ring anyways
and Court super easy to run
and good to just fill up the vault
we ended up doing 3 last night; started with a 22 easy, 21 even easier, and 20 what a joke
CoS always a joke tho 
true
after the first bridge
and not having aoe interrupts for imps
Hunters... Of both kinds 
same, we do it when the healer is doing the skip
eh, we dont do that skip
we just pull the construct and pull the guard and wyrm pack to the left after first boss
Imps is SR first, stun 2nd, they ded - no?
DPS wont let me reflect 😦
maybe a 2nd stun needed, but ya.. SR does ~50% of their hp lol

so for us its Shock->Wailing->Chaos->Bear shout->My Shout->fear sigil
they are locked down
thats insane lol.. sr is busted there
they want overall
and its not a issue
and honestly, we need to start pulling the imps on top of packs anyways
doing them seperate kind of a waste
but in a pug, Im always pulling imps seperate; cant trust pugs
I pull imps, then the pat as imps blastin
ya with the 2 pack inquisitor/shadow slash isnt bad at all
I like first set of imps with the three pack (dependiing on enforcer spawn. Ill even do imps with enforcer if pathing good) or imps with the two pack on the right side
oh ya, you start on the left side
It really does feel bad to get most of your percentage in the first area, and small pull the rest of the dung
SR always worth tho 
it def feels good to pump out 400k dps on those imps lol
its show of force > battering ram right? I thought the earlier talents had it the other way around
and when you do plateform, you prob popping cooldowns anyway
we take battering ram over thunderlords
so that Demo Shout and Shield Charge are always synced
What do you guys use to live third boss of TJS? I could live (barely) 3 strikes and then I was screwed. Talking about green phase ofc
I haven't seen any logs of anyone doing that. I have seen a few times in here people saying they dont use thunderlord
god damn Quaking is toxic in Tree boss AA 🤣
higher DPS to not make it to four 🙂
But really it's a bleed, so store my pots and any mitigation i can for the third and on
its more dam to sync Demo and Battering ram
and third AV XD
thunderlords>Shield Charge if you need more Demo Shout uptime for survive
🤔
desinc - nope
its 20% DR no?
but yea, i aint dsyncing; but that appears to be the case scenario
of why youll Thunderlords over battering ram
still probably doesnt apply to like 99% of people
It desyncs shout from avatar
90% of people chose Thunderlords over Battering Ram because wowhead says so
How are you not desyncing?
Battering ram for me is 6%+ ST
i cant feel a difference between demo shout be ing up or not
likewise
How to fail a fkn RBL 18
but if you doing like a 26 AA, it might be more noticable
granted, like 2 people are doing that key
I cant believe im failing fkn keys below 20
so, not applicable to the rest of us
So its better to have it in sync than to have it up more often
ill have to test it out
Legit my key fell from 21 Jade Serpent to 17 SBG and it makes me wanna delete
Bad groups happen. Take a breather and come back to it man.
do other peoples keys
The Pug-Life. Had 4 horrid groups that couldn’t kill 1. boss Cos20 - then times a 23 Av
Other ppl dont inv me cuz im garbage remember :S
I just cant do pugs anymore..
Either its my key and it goes down or cant play at all
Literally why would I even bother do any key below 20
to get it to 20 to fail it anyway
Did my 8 20s for the week time to relax 
Such a good week to push keys
gotta a 22 RLP to smash
every week is a push week for people like us
Tyra weeks are impossible given how trash ppl are
Just spammed them on Tuesday, gonna push over the weekend to get some keys to 20-21
we arent good enough where affix is gonna brick the key off the bat
After seeing an entire team of 2.6k dps kill each other with Quaking under Hyrja bubble
I may as well mutli box this shit
well Fort/Boldtering AV second boss trash wants to have a talk XD
23 academy 
score and ilvl is literally irrelevant
arent we talking about the stuff in the room?
^
not for me XD Oneshotter multiple times
Had a 2850 score Rogue die to Wise Mari meme
Like HOW
Did u get there if you are so blind
this assumes you go defender's aegis for the second charge of shield wall or will you just have it back with reductions
its a good idea for that dungeon
That’s doing all the whelp pat pulls right?
yea
not terrible
lined up stuns for piercings
got rid of arcane furys
honestly, quite chill
Ye I don’t how I feel about the quad furies pull in a pug but i trust you
but im only in the 21-22 range
you dont have to do that pull
you skip that one
had a 45k lock in av24 last week. „if you don’t pull at least 3 packs i can’t do dmg“ on the fury-Ring
Oh I watched someone do frog skip and they pull those
you cna
you dont have to
thats a very spicey pull
but doing 3 was fine... whats a 4th?
so maybe that might be fine to do
AV has a lot of options
just have to find what works for you
like my hated mob in that dungeon are arcane guard dudes that do that stupid knockback
fuck those guys
That’s funny 🙂 hate furrys - love those
100% before 2nd boss is both rings, all the lashers, entire 2nd boss area, whelp patrol in first room and 2nd hallway? Not at computer to check
Prolly check MDT when I get home, timed a 19 so trying to get a 20-21 done for io
yea, just check it; you literally do everything but the 4 fury 1 thrasher pack
then after 2nd boss, you just jump down and do the two enforcers bois
super good last week cause I was nervous about bolstered Screamy bois after 2nd boss
but this week, we doing all the trash after second boss
that stuff is great
anybody know the name of the toy that puts down a mechanical platform where if people step on it, it changes the person's race
atomic recalibrator
danks
You can just avoid the knockback though right, or am i thinking of something else?
If you get invited to to such keys 
I need a place to find good pugs with calm people who doesn't asks 3100 rio for a +15
please?
What's your ilvl cause I've never had an issue getting invited to any key
Allied Wrists or Elemental Lariat for 2nd embellishment?
i have trouble getting into 22 while 2850
393
You can sidestep that. It's a fixed position frontal.
BUT
100% correct
1300 rio cause i play only few hours a week, so i can't push hard
but im a idiot
So, i don't get invited

😂
Go in to littlewigs and put a custom sound on it. Then you hear the sound you step to side. Ez.
I use the same sound for all avoidable frontals
oh, I know its coming, Im ready for it and all that stuff
Run your own keys until you hit a wall
Practice makes perfect
Just constantly spin in a circle and tell melee to adjust
if yogi can do ksm ANY BODY can do ksm
honestly, its when I pull only two is it a problem
KSM isn't hard
when I pull like 4, im like ok, this is good
KSH isn't hard either
idk, me and them are just mortal enemies
And every week i got AV. I'm scared of it
I triple pulled the 2nd ring in a 20 yesterday. There were 3 (or maybe 4?). Was easy count. Mobs don't even do anything.
explain how
How i'm scared?
AV is a joke now
Das cap
first, i sweat. Then , the tremors. And lastly, i faint
You get finally get it?!
I cant get the spellqueue thing on hyrja to work, i hate my life
People that act like av got balanced like RLP 💀 AV has been the hardest dungeon week to week uncontested
hardest key to time; to do, not as much imo
What's the difference dude
ksm, 30 valdraken, 200 mounts fuck loads of transmog all on same day
id rather have a slower 20 AV for a weekly vualt
Gratz
RLP is harder, fight me
like no chance, this aint happening
It's easy too, but puggers throw it in the trash every time
at least AV is hard to fuck up
so AV just forces you to play aggressive
Well, tonight i will try to do my 14 AV
All of my AVs are like 2-3 minutes over time and I'm chain pulling shit as fast as I can
+1
Wish me luck, as the fisrt time i will step on that nightmare
Frog skip or don't botherm
RLP pugs throw on 2nd boss by placing adds at edge of fire and throwing boulders where we want to stand.
Also throwing fire in stupid spots on last boss
Yup
I timed a RLP 12 yesterday, and with SB and DS was really chill
Allied Wrist or Elemental Lariat for 2nd embellishment. I'm leaning Lariat with Haste?
Also, good dps group
Other than that it's pretty easy. Everything else you can more or less solo carry as pwar
If I YouTube that will I find what you're talking about
Probably. Gotta pull "everything" to do the skip.
Wake up all golems
It's fun.
First pull I peak 450k as arms 
Timed 20 2x yesterday by pressing W. Easy.
if you just pull like a madman during frogs its ok. 1 breaker each time
Hey all, I've been having a problem in raids where my co-tank (Demon Hunter) seems to be ripping threat off of me on the boss when I taunt and I can't see why this is..
I'm hitting my rotation hard and he's doing maybe 8 - 10k more DPS than me but no matter what.. when I taunt and establish threat he somehow ends up with it
At the moment i've been essentially taunting on cooldown to make sure he doesn't get double hit by tank busters.. but it just seems odd that this is even a problem...
Any suggestions on what might be going on?
People waste a lot of time fighting the frogs for some reason
just let them come with you
and then kill them at the end
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What trinkets to aim for in M+? I have access to raid trinkets aswell
Whetstone
Whetstone.
Spiteful is meh
And hes definitely not just taunting back off you, and not ripping aggro from dps?
Ideally, all totem + Whetstone is the move for m+
all totem > icon?
In m+, yes.
ig it depends on how many use icon
He swears that he isn't simply taunting back.. so the only logical explanation is that somehow he's ripping aggro from DPS..
Make sure you have big stuff as you taunt. While your taunt is active you get bonus threat.
mhm just switched from 408 all totem to 421 icon
Logs
Either a ur playing bad or b he's tauntint
Also if he's consistently ripping after you taunt, tell him to stop blowing CDs after your taunt.
Logs fix all
10 wipes on last boss in SBG because both DHs keep blade dancing into the wall.
Logs can tell you if he's taunting, too
Also a plater profile that shows when he's getting close to ripping from you. If it turns orange he needs to dial back.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6C2XwxpqB87c1MhR this the log from our Heroic progression
the issue was on Dathea
I'd taunt on 2 stacks then she goes into Cyclone and even though my UI said I had threat and I was the closest to her after the Cyclone he would end up with threat and get slammed
What's the deal with the eggs on Diurna HC? Being in stacks of 3 I mean. Are some of them fake or does she do 3 eggs there?
She drops threat when cyclone ends.
really?
you have to taunt right before cyclone ends
Complete wipe. Taunt the second cyclone ends.
Yeah, I figured that out last night on the fly
any transmog farmers in here? how do i get into this dungeon,says lfr but thers no lfr for this
You need to blow up groups of 3 eggs at times.
Ok, now the fight makes sense.
theres a panda that queues you for LFR on top of mogu shan palace
buy the lfr version with a token from a vendor i think
my dathea heroic wasn't logged
oh shit really!?
what token?
there are vendors in the shrine that sell stuff it'll tell you what token you need but apparently you can queue lfr? weird
But Lorewalker Han is the one you're looking for he's on top of mogushan palace next to cho
so if i just want to farm sparks, is running +2's a thing to do?
Dirt p sure
I use details for this, start pull wait 3 seconds on details, taunt leap to storm. Working pretty consistently
i keep getting beamed by hyrja at the wrong times
someone said its a distance thing, and i will be inside of her and it'll still happen sometimes
What do you mean the wrong times
next spark suggestions? should i go for wep?
yes
Like beamed on pull
you should
usually stand right where i tank her and pull her
so you're off to the side and you ranged pull yeah?
ya slight ranged. But shes done it mid pull before too, After getting beamed going back to the blue side, shes beamed me again over there
super weird, never seen that before
tendies mount acquiired
tauren prot warrior supremacy
Weird way of saying 'panda'
Need advice on 2nd embellishment. Lariat or Allied Wrists.
for damage, whats more important, weapon or shield?
now why would i go and do that when i have food buff belt?
Weapon
Because they literally have different effects
Why does everyone think flavor pocket and panda are the same thing
Double duration =/= double effect lol
Panda doubles the stat. Embellishment doubles the duration
why not both?
That's exactly the point
For both you'd be a panda with packet
If you are panda + have the embellishment, you have double effect and double duration.
This happened to me once
its hard to undersell just how much alchemy flavor pocket saves you on gold of food items
make 150 food now, lasts 2 weeks probably
I wasted 100k cause I didn’t read first 🤣
What are the ilvl of those two spots?
Embellishments are like 1% damage, it’s whatever your weakest ilvl is. Min Max I’d do both if I didn’t have fire raid rings.
on our 1h weapon what devotion we put?

We use enchants for dps
isnt soph for armor tho?
Tank dmg matters
Dead enemies do less damage to you it's very tanky to kill them
cause class
but using ench on 389 mythic wep isnt rlly smart right?
Depends on how easily you can get another weapon, price of enchant, disposable gold income
Sophic writt
I don't know your gold to enjoyment to time spectrum, get a r2 for cheap if you want tho sure
On my server devotions are 10k
enchants are region wide im pretty sure
Grab a r2 then tbh
done
Or writ thats like 1k or smthing
If its a temp weapon
it is
think ill craft 405 wep soon
ok
so us ay we use ench for dmg
icy veins says fierce armor kit but frosted armor gives armor and str
so armor or stamina
is Darkmoon trinket bugged or is it worth crafting?
the difference is minimal. armor slightly better against constant m+ dmg, stamina slightly higher buffer against burst
but the diff is truly small
ye i wnt with stamina allrdy,rip
I haven't done much M+, isn't SBG supposed to be the easy dungeon this season?
That is every week yes
in relative terms, it's the easiest by far
Smbg and cos
Every single week
Second group that can't kill the last boss because 2-3 people die to the wall
Hi y'all, I'm new to prot war -- both icyveins and wowhead seem to say that we should be taking Tough as Nails instead of Spell Block, but murlok.io says that more people take spell block... whats the thought?
yeah so, every dungeon is hard if half the group doesn't know how to play world of warcraft
trick is to only go straight thru
If you die to the wall in SBG you should be playing heroic dungeons tbh
cant veer off to the sides at all until its way past you
Take tough as nails as a default go spell block when you need it
Bjoolz which add do you focus?
Spell block is situationally very strong
Nails unless you really need more spell protect
spell block is very strong defensively in some specific dungeons/bosses, otherwise tough as nails if you're not in danger of dying much, free damage
What dungeons would you take spell block in?
Me too bc I trust it lol
I wasn't allowed to go on add because they couldn't dodge the cleave
And the ranged didn't understand how that aoe pillar thingy worked
The cleave? U mean frontal
Yes
those groups would have been even worse in any other dungeon
And, the one that falls down from the sky on the furthest range
Spell block is probably good for AV as well
So we always had two AoE pillars in the middle
Oiii frontal is random
How high do u run?
That was 14

We get there with like 12 minutes left
this was their opportunity to learn where to stand for the pillar
i guess no one explained it well or they can't read
It's always a DH that dies to the wall. I guess they just zoom around and never learn
What I learned for „low“ pugs only get one ranged dps
Just stand in melee. What ranged can't stand in melee?
Yes 99% are trash
No
It’s not ranged, it’s class what triggers
Range dps like mage Hunter priest etc
We did a run with one ranged in melee and healer outside, it always hit the healer
if the ranged stand in melee, the pillars will drop on them
When I did it with friends
Example you got hunter 2 rogues you and priest heal it will always go on hunter
If you are 3 rogues 1 Pala 1 Tank it goes random on all
3 rogues 1 priest heal and you it will go on heal
So only the warlock will get it
The warlock was fine, but warlock is kinda bleh single target when they spec for cleave
So u Need to teach him and all others stand in front of boss
I mean, he didn't die to the wall
I don't understand why you need tacs for the cleave, it's not a hard dodge
I guess some people need tacs for everything
Third time's a charm? Queing again
Yeah 😁 gl, just take 1 range - say all Meele in front so u bait the frontal away from range and take a middle add so u have enough time
bruh is there more tanks or smth this expansion
A ton
Some of them maybe don’t have the graphic setting that they see the wall behind the wall
There are no warlocks this expansion
tanks are easier to play in keys this patch
there arent a ton of people doing 20s yet I'd imagine. SOme folks are having trouble working up the nerve to do over 15
Either my friends got worse or it seems like you need more damage to clear a 15 key
I can probs solo some 15s kekw
And I mean complete, not timed
We could not clear third boss in academy last week, couldn't kill the adds
20 RLP first boss hits like a truck with the overlap of the zone and the spell. Anything else I can do with besides spellblock?
Legit did more healing than our resto shaman this AV 20
the tree boss?
Yes, with the 20 small adds
RLP even if u reflect every cd its hard ngl
As long as you are getting dispelled, you can live that in a 15 forever
and than ur 1 iq priest healer dies to ice thing
Not when the spread is kinda bad so some of them wander off and kill dps
Rotate spellblock+wall with it u don’t need much heal
I wont die to that meme boss anyway buddy
We even put up pillars for where to walk to spawn them together, fucked up
Ahh missunderstood
Btw the AoE leech and BV rly holds up when adds are up
Bjoolz do you Play with voice
No need defensives when they up
Even if its a little spread out, you have a lot of stuff to yoink aggro, one set can be aoe taunted
With friends
I wish rerolls upgraded keys to current timed level ngl
u play double wall?
No
I’d play double wall for RLP, useful on each boss.
Anyone elses' ingame friends list going blank randomly?
Mhh okay, tell your friends they should all get, schocking disc Pots, so you can do like 2 / 2 and the adds will melt
log out of battle net and log back in
im really not sure how to spec prot tree. I really like the AoE kick. But that feels like my only point I can change
We BLed the second round of adds and then the boss was still at like 60%, we were way off :D
Close and re-open the game, its been fucked for months
Okay ilvl from your grp?
Like 380 on a 14 key so not optimal :P
Are you not running impen wall?
Are images allowed in here?
Yeah
Okay so no shame, idk do you die at the tree or the grp?
Group

Aggro Probs? Or the aoe dmg
Ye idk, I don’t run ITF in m+
Not sure what happened, no issues with much higher dps
-ITF -bolster +defender aegis +heavy repercussions
Are they clearing the dot?
The big tree add that spawns casts massive heals and applies a dot, when it dies everyone needs to be in the circle otherwise the dot becomes fatal
I will try this
WHat healer did u have?
Druid
Does anyone have a link to a WA or add on that shows SW and SR timer, I was able to find a WA for IP and SB. I would just like to have it enlarged so I can track when to pop my next defensive or run lol
Poison fwiw
Aye, same thing :smiler:
It's in the basic pack on wago
Adjust as needed
Is Unstable Frostfire Belt BiS without fire finger?
It's not any better than the other embellishments
which other embelishment?
i would say it slightly more consistent than other embelishments tbh]
1%ish iirc
True
so basically go with lariat+waist
yo for lariat haste proc i need the 70 crit + 33 Haste Gems right?
Or the 88 haste gem
Okay squad, how TF do you do the last trash pull of TJS?
It’s pretty easy to just make your own
Its in the pins
Just finished a 17 and that fucker hurt
Shield charge, pop CD, interrupt
That's how I do it
basically youre big chilling with SR->SB->SR->Sheild Wall then you gotta run lol
Burn the add that fears first
Okay, it's that minion of doubt that makes me irrationally angry too.
In TJS, I just pull a ton and it feels like the mobs are doing 0 damage, then suddenly I lose 90% of my health in 1 second
I try ranging that claw but I can't just seem to miss it. I just need practice, thanks for the suggestions. It just seems wrong to kite.
God bless, this is it. 95% of the dungeon is gravy, then this wall.
The little non-caster dudes are tank busters iirc
Yeah, the minions cast dark claw and it was easily half my health just now. Even through dstance.
I hate court of stars. I don't know any of the tricks or item spawns there
It feels like I'm doing something wrong 90% of the time
Love that place. Get littlewigs for it
Makes the random spawns easy by telling you who in your party can activate them.
Gearing my prot warrior. Since I don't raid, I'm not gonna get the fire rings. Is frost fire belt still the thing to craft for embelishment?
Why does it feel like sometimes I take no damage and others I can keep up. I feel like a god one minute and then a wet noodle
Is your shield block dropping?
That’s the only thing I can think is happening
nope
thats 100% because spell damage
even if your shield block drops you wont feel as dramatically different compared to spell damage
Charge and get snap threat with whatever. Wait about 5 seconds then shockwave to sync up their casts. Spell reflect all 3. After that, wall -> spell block -> wall -> last stand + rally. Mix in additional reflects as it comes up. Focus the haunting sha. If you do this you have about 40-50s of DPS time. On tyrannical they should be dead by then. On fortified you'll probably need to kite a bit to finish up.
Did this 2x on 20 yesterday (tyrannical) and did not kite at all.
does shockwaving pre dark claw actually sync their casts up? Cause i've never been able to get all 3 of them to cast the the same time
if you wait until at least one is close to finishing the cast, all three should be off cooldown, yes
@cloud umbra CUZ UR NOT SEEING THE HIDDEN CLOCK
I see when its available
do you keep stacking haste after 30%
what is the best phial for prot warr?
Any suggestion on dealing with Kokia Blazehoof's searing blows? It says it's pure physical
doing 19's and I'm getting slapped so hard.
There’s a pin for it on this channel
at 19 if youre not terribly undergeared and died in wall its healers problem
Goes without saying too, make sure you have ignore pain up as much as possible
Don’t fat finger defensive CDs like me
there is no talk, only zug zug hold w
I usually take defender's aegis in temple and RLP for the extra shield wall on some bosses
WTB blacksmith who can make 418 shield…
i looked up warris that have the shield from my server and wrote them 😄
so, what are good alts to make? (level from 60 to 70)t
WHOOOO DID IT ;D
Good strategy!
if i had 100 BS i would totally do it for you, also if i had my BS hammer
gets better 😄 i searched for the dude in /2 then and he was on a twink and saw it 😄 😄
NA or EU
https://prnt.sc/ERoG1KEH4EGQ valor into back or same bracers with socket? -> next crafted will be boots
I remember Tyrannical being much worse in BFA, was it different then?
Why are tou made of molten lava
cause ppl - no WA - not used to 3 min fights in dungeons
we evolved - and this is a no affix week
for m+ is it advised to do embellished wrists or embesslished belt?
NA- archimonde server
ultimately you want fire ring, so you want the belt
you can make a choice beyond that between Lariat and Wrists for M+
could always adjust gear later if you wanted to use wrist/lariat at the moment
can we pick fueled by violance instead of brutal vitality?
Why would you?
bcz of hot?
BV is much better
and i dotn rlly understand what brutal does xactly
@craggy kelp bro what is that profile pic
You have IP up, and you do dmg
%amount form dmg fuel your IP
good synergy with 4p tier set aswell
We dont do that
ok,im just asking xD
😄
what we doin for wep, sophic devotion?
Well thats not true
Did they finally write an APL for simcraft to work correctly?
@rough egret sure they could sim but it was misleading
It’s slightly different tyrannical got nerfed in SL if I remember correctly