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dusky canopy
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You got itokayge

sick sentinel
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so, this tells me its from 4 days ago, so now i need to locate the log

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im dumb, whgats 4 days ago

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29th? i' gotta dig through find wihch one it is, , i think thats 29th, im on it tho

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see like, i have all these logs just from that day,

fallen lichen
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A few days ago someone posted a WA here to reflect every Lightning thing on last boss with correct timer. Can anyone share or quote it? Can’t find it with search or on wago?

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Last nokhud boss*

sick sentinel
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ill let you guys know when i find the 15++ sbg

ember tangle
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Shield block uptime is good for dmg aswell btw, not just blocking hits

sick sentinel
amber siren
sick sentinel
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i supressed this memory

fallen lichen
short elk
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What % does the last mob in cos give now?

amber siren
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6%

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about

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give or take .%

bold olive
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12/6.3% is what MDT says

inland raft
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6.32 to be precise

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The .02 matters depending on route and buffs sometimes you get an exact 100

prisma obsidian
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chrome

sick sentinel
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hooooo boy, a double feature even

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give me 1 minute

uneven ice
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For the love of my life I can’t get SB uptime more than 76-78%

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Jesus

blazing condor
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skill diff sadge

fallen lichen
uneven ice
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Nope

blazing condor
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can be that you're getting hit in the back

viscid plaza
uneven ice
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all the good talents for SB, but somehow details don’t get me 90% uptime, and I try really hard

blazing condor
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you only care about logs

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and effective hits blocked

uneven ice
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Sometimes is I got no rage

fallen lichen
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I did what everyone said is stupid - my sb is bound to shield slam. Every run I logged I have >95% blocked hits so that’s good enough to me.

blazing condor
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uptime doesnt mean shit if youre not actively blocking

uneven ice
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And end up 2-3 secs with SB down

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Too many revenge or IP, I guess

stable valve
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@strong forum Do you know how much each % of haste effects SS cd?

viscid plaza
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Uptime only matters when you're getting hit. You might be hyperfocusing the wrong metric. Look at effective blocks instead of shield block uptime

sick sentinel
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for those who were interested

strong forum
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you do the math

viscid plaza
strong forum
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its % reduction

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quite literally

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base CD is 16seconds

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if you have 100% haste

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CD is 8 seconds

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voila

stable valve
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well that was easy

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wasn't sure if it "DRd" or not tbh

strong forum
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i feel like i said smth wrong lemme reconfirm

stable valve
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what's the shortest a GCD can be in wow?

blazing condor
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you got low cpm and low blocked hits. Also wasted 1k rage

stable valve
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because that's capped right?

strong forum
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lowest GCD can be is 0.75 seconds

viscid plaza
strong forum
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with 100% haste

stable valve
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kk tyty

cinder storm
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Can you intervene / spell reflect last boss temple? I'm curious if it would be faster to 3 man that boss that way ratge

sick sentinel
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is it worth me going after the 405 recraft on my 402 weapon?

high drum
viscid plaza
strong forum
stable valve
strong forum
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ye its 100% haste to reduce CD by half

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my bad

viscid plaza
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but if you're close to the item that allows you to get it to 408-418, then do that instead

sick sentinel
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i don't have the 16's thingy's just yet, once i do most keys on a 15 i would feel alot more confdent jumping into pug 16+'s

stable valve
viscid plaza
high drum
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formula is like 100 / (100 + haste%) or something

cinder storm
stable valve
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I'm assuming all hasted spells work like that then yeah?

strong forum
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ye

stable valve
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dope

high drum
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yeah

sick sentinel
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well, im mr stupido

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i stand in the fire

strong forum
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which is why haste is so massive for us

sick sentinel
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and face it at my group

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and then i don't do CD

viscid plaza
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That's uh...

strong forum
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its TC, SS cd reduction, rage gen and auto attack speed increase which also means SS CD reduction

sick sentinel
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i have to learn by do it

viscid plaza
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That's a problem that can be fixed in a lower key because the mechanics don't change

stable valve
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actually had no idea

high drum
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yes

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30%

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haste

warm plinth
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Yeah it's CD/(1+haste) for hasted CDs so 50% haste is 10.67 sec CD

sick sentinel
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right and thats just exactly the thing

warm plinth
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Cool thanks for updating after I sent the message mobile discord

sick sentinel
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i dont want to be applying for 17 keys, and then i have zero clue whats going on what to interupt stun face out move out

strong forum
warm plinth
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Yeah 🙄

uneven ice
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Is there something you apply to weapons that gives attack power?

high drum
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yogi u need to detach yourself from the shackles of caring about other peoples experience

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you are the main character

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join those keys and brick em

uneven ice
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Like sharpening something

strong forum
viscid plaza
sick sentinel
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typically find a route that works best for me, and then i just try to replicate it each run

viscid plaza
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Howling rune is 320 haste though for 2 hours and worth more for us

uneven ice
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Ok

cinder storm
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Yogi, if you were to have a 5 man tank key on your 16s and ask ppl here to join, it'd get filled faster than Nome's

viscid plaza
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But like, make it my own, you know?

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What works for me inside the framework of what i need to kill haha

sick sentinel
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in the group of 4 cloth wearers and 1 protwarrior, tuant buttons are king

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firebal, aggro, runs at mage, melee, 400k basic melee, dead

last nova
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shoulda waited for 3 stacks of sunder armor before dps

tropic tangle
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sounds like a mage problem

viscid plaza
last nova
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lol

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back in vanilla when threat was on hard mode

sick sentinel
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threat has always played a role in wow

last nova
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a dps sneezes and pulls agggro

sick sentinel
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its core to DND priniciples

pastel sleet
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anyone have a good "when to spell block" weak aura or plater profile?

forest tulip
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i main prot but i also like arms. would it be foolish or a waste of time to try and get set pieces for arms once ive completed my prot set?

deft mortar
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ait

viscid plaza
deft mortar
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removed 1 of my laptop fans cuz bitch was too loud

viscid plaza
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Bro it's your time, if you enjoy arms, build out an arms set too

deft mortar
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I have a cooling pad so might just work fine

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Got chrome runnin

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lemme hit up wow xd

sick sentinel
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i wish there was an after mdt route comparison

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you put these mobs on your route, but you instead pulled these and killed them at this time, this was 4 minutes behind your average time

deft mortar
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ait wow and chrome runnin core temp at 94

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it not very safe xcd

sick sentinel
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is that on ur cpu?

deft mortar
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ye

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I had to remove a faulty fan

fallen lichen
deft mortar
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got external fan pad

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and iit still has a fan inside

sick sentinel
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yes, do you have a basic stock cooler installed on it?

fallen lichen
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Your gear should work mostly

deft mortar
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u mean the gel on cpu/gpu?

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i need to refresh it

sick sentinel
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the cooler unit fan

deft mortar
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its got 1

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it had 2

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i removed the faulty one

sick sentinel
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well, if its the stock one that came with it, replace it with a tower cooler

deft mortar
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btw this is a laptop

sick sentinel
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oh right, well

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GG

deft mortar
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Lemme put an icepack underneat LMAO

devout basalt
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thats toasting man

deft mortar
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should I put this shit in my freezer

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and use bluetooth everything

devout basalt
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pretty sur they aren't made to go higher than 98

sick sentinel
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devout basalt
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get that fan replaced asap

sick sentinel
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why i will never buy laptop

deft mortar
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its all clean bruh

sick sentinel
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but if you use them i respect it too, understand the appeal

deft mortar
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i can clean fans if I can remove em x

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was in university when I bought this

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basically was a requirement

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I got money to buy a desktop but

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the cpu and gpu arent dead

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so why

sick sentinel
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the joke im making is that they are good machines and i even use them sometimes, but they are, it is what it is

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and you are stuck with what you got till you buy a new one

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and if you take it apart, you'll never get it back together once you fixed the issue

deft mortar
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i can move my desk next to the window

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its -15 outside

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if I touch the back of the pc to the glass xd

viscid plaza
# deft mortar so why

because the heat is going to kill it sooner than later and you should be ready for that with a replacement.

deft mortar
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ait bought replacement fan and thermal paste

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ima paste up that bitch

lusty tiger
deft mortar
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Ye if I let the canadian winter it it will be cool lmao

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rn with external fan pad and 1 fan its stabilized at 92 degrees while playnigg wow

lusty tiger
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But otherwise we Condemn

deft mortar
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Wish there was an addon at wow that showed CPU temp

lusty tiger
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92 c?

strong forum
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laptops in 2023

deft mortar
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ye C

lusty tiger
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That’s pretty hot

strong forum
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I learned my lesson 12 years ago, never again laptop gaming

deft mortar
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Was moving dorm 2 dorm brother

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WhenI bought it

lusty tiger
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Nome dropping frames for raytracing

deft mortar
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Just waiting till it dies now to buy a desktop

strong forum
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RT is a scam

deft mortar
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With my banker salary xd

sick sentinel
lusty tiger
deft mortar
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ngl u can finance desktops pretty decently $50-$!00 a month

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I may buy in cash tho cuz fk these rates

sick sentinel
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why not just get an ipad at that point

lusty tiger
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Canada is a scam

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1% inflation yearly

sick sentinel
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canada is omegalul

lusty tiger
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Zzz

sick sentinel
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source i live there

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too stupid to know about its politics

deft mortar
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wonder how much the frozen vegetable pack cools this down rn

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cuz top of the laptop is cold asf

lusty tiger
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Dear lord

deft mortar
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the copper heat distribution shit must eventually make it to the vegetable pack xd

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Imay also completely remove the bottom on the laptop and tape it to my cooling pad

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just let whatever comes in there

lusty tiger
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Dam

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In the us we don’t have to do that

deft mortar
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that'd 100% work

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Cuz it has 5 fans in the cooling pad

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entire heat sink surface would get hit

lusty tiger
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We get good deals from China even after the tariff

deft mortar
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any deals u get I likely get too lmao

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NAFTA BROTHER HELL YEAH

lusty tiger
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Hehehe yeh

lusty tiger
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Just watch out for condensation

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If you’re using ice anything

tall cradle
deft mortar
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Amazon delivering new fan and paste tommorow

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So if I get to play some wow till then it ait

lusty tiger
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Thermal paste replacement is my least favorite part of computer building/upkeep

deft mortar
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ikr

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Or dusting

lusty tiger
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Most cpu fans are so cringe

deft mortar
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lmaooo tru

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I also removed my battery completely

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Not worth the hastle of having it in

devout basalt
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does it even hold a charge anymore?

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mine was done after like five yars

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years

deft mortar
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Well it didnt come on with the battery in it

tall cradle
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This is starting to sound like the most jank frankenstein setup ever

deft mortar
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So i think it was fked

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Only gpu cpu and motherboard is the same in the laptop atm

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Everything else is frankenstein

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Sasdly my prev laptops fans didnt fit this ones socket

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guess they update stuff

lusty tiger
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U just need some reinforced cardboard

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And u could have a desktop

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Basically a test board

deft mortar
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My desktop 8 yrs ago was the biggest abomination

lusty tiger
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But for laptop parts

deft mortar
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It had one of these

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So I could use my laptop ram in it

lusty tiger
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Jesus fk

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That isn’t ok

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U need to watch some Linus tech tips

deft mortar
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lool

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I wait out all my parts to die b4 I buy a new thing

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And its taking long this time around

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Die or be useless

lusty tiger
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Understandable

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You should put a photo of ur setup on imgur

deft mortar
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lmaoo

lusty tiger
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And link it before each m+

deft mortar
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special type of io score

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I do mention the risk of wife aggro sometimes

forest tulip
deft mortar
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btw if any of yall have cash nows the time to buy/upgrade ur pc

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But only in cash not trough financing

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Personal pc demand slumped and inventories are stacked

lusty tiger
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U have a wife

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U guys have a lot of dogs?

tall cradle
deft mortar
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Nah no pets, no kids

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No car

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Big savings

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  • renting the apartment so no mortgage interest
sick sentinel
lusty tiger
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On the way to becoming millionaires at 50

deft mortar
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Wife doesnt work so

sick sentinel
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i think that new high end gaming laptops bult with the bottom cooling thing

deft mortar
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If she did definitely

lusty tiger
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65

sick sentinel
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should be something like my drawing

deft mortar
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lmao

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Hoping to finish my CFA exams and get that charter

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Than I should be making some $$

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rip my wow time tho

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oh yeah thats what I got

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the cooling pad

lusty tiger
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Big time

viscid plaza
sick sentinel
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healers perspective on tanks, very interesting to me

devout basalt
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shield block gaps in df keks

deft mortar
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dang chicken breasts right under the heat sink reduced cpu temp by 4-5 degrees

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will have to replace those

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Its in plastic obv

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from fridge to laptop to the grill hell yeah brother

reef holly
deft mortar
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dang

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Dry aged slow roasted

reef holly
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I’m also part of the laptop master race, but my laptop is fairly new

tall cradle
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Could probably sous vide something if you connect your wayercooling radiator to a water tank

reef holly
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Wow doesn’t make it too hot

main spoke
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It's OK on my cpu but it makes the amd drivers shit the bed often

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Trees popping in and out of existence

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Sometimes shit just goes greenmode

tall cradle
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We tank

main spoke
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I want a 3070 but I need a new chair

slim dove
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This isn't arms chat.

potent harbor
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shiet its prot channel sorry

slim dove
sick sentinel
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my thoughts on your solution

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if you know, you know, if you don't, i hope i didnt send you down the rabbit hole

lavish flame
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would it be bad to get 70crit/33haste fire gems for lariat and proc the crit buff? currently sitting at 2k crit and 3.4k vers using the haste/vers gems

high drum
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70 crit 33 haste procs haste not fire

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70 haste 33 crit would proc crit

pastel sleet
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just hit 2400 yesterday. i plan on getting to around 2500 this season and chillin with friends instead of hard pushing the higher stuff.

at this level of play (16s-19s) is running spell block necessary or should i run tough as nails for more damage?

sick sentinel
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im gunna try to get my professions to 100, see if i cant get as much of the knowledges as i want

lavish flame
cloud umbra
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i mean you dont NEED it for those levels, but its nice sometimes.. mainly in temple tyrannical

rose cobalt
pastel sleet
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ive been running spell block for a few weeks. and i find that im waiting the whole dungeon to use it two or three times during certain tyran hits. it feels like a waste when tough as nails hits pretty hard

high drum
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good in av too on the piercing guys

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and the captain's breath or the dragonstrikes you cant reflect

rose cobalt
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Doesn't seem worth it in AV. In 20s I've easily been able to stun lock or stagger them before they die on fort. Sr and shield wall get it done for anything else

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There's so much trash that melees you

cloud umbra
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ya i think the play is to stun the piercing shards and not eat them either way. The dot stacks and hurts

marble cipher
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I default to spell block in AV, RLP and Jade all the time, even if it's a drop on dps or threat when not using Tough As Nails. I still feel it's better to have the extra defensive available for specific packs/bosses

rose cobalt
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You can also shockwave both arcane buffs before they go off so they do 33% less damage then alternate shield charge and storm bolt on the 2 pack

marble cipher
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Ideal, maybe not, but meh

deft mortar
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U can almost reflect every Dark Claw in temple tho except last pack

dusky canopy
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I’m a fan of spell block also

slim dove
rose cobalt
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Yeah probably. I pug all my runs can't really count on people to help me out

cloud umbra
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ya in pug you probably need spell block lol

rose cobalt
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I just mark one crystal as a focus kill and make sure the first 3 piercings don't go off

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Shield wall good

cloud umbra
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our group just stuns all the casts

dusky canopy
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I always suggest when pugging to plan the dungeon like you are soloing it

icy bane
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Why would you not take spell block for AV 2nd boss tho

rose cobalt
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The second boss has never been an issue for me survivability wise

dusky canopy
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You can’t rely on them pugs man

cloud umbra
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Theres no damage going out that phase, so whats the difference between getting hit 20% with spell block or 50% of your hp without

rose cobalt
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In the intermission phase?

cloud umbra
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the cleave phase

rose cobalt
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Idk man have ip up spell reflect and impending victory for one shield wall another

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It's not hard to live

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TAN is ridic damage

wide charm
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do you guys play intervene outside of HoV/Temple for spiteful ?

cerulean tusk
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Nop. If they die, they die.

viscid plaza
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I'll throw a stun, but I expect my DPS and heals to manage it

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When I'm healing I will entangle on my resto doodad

cloud umbra
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i always fight with myself on what to drop if i ever do run intervene.. i do it for fenryr and last boss temple

viscid plaza
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I don't even run intervene in hov or temple actually.

cloud umbra
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i hate it.. i feel like its not worth

cerulean tusk
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It probably ain't

pastel sleet
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is it worth going belf for torrent?

viscid plaza
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For fenryr I just let them handle it and on last boss temple I expect them to stack on me for the adds phase

cerulean tusk
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Go nelf for SM

cloud umbra
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our monk gets blasted by his add on last boss temple, so i intervene him right as the adds come out

viscid plaza
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PFFT go Human for Will to Survive and say fuck stunnnnnnns

pastel sleet
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i hadnt even thought of human to counter bad thundering management

viscid plaza
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🙂

pastel sleet
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thats not bad

plush tendon
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yea, but if you are gonna be alliance, at least be a dwarf or NE

pastel sleet
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how many dwarf cures are good in season one?

sick sentinel
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Enough

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human for stun removal

viscid estuary
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are the jewelcrafting trinkets any good? can't see them discussed in neither of the guides

plush tendon
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Sims say they are meh

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Prot Paladins are using the alchemist stone though.... but I think there are just better options for us

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but I was curious myself, cause they seem like decent stat sticks

viscid estuary
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fair enough, thx!

cerulean tusk
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Prot warr in general want good value onuse. Either as DPS or mitigation, based on what is needed. Two Def trinkets for Mrs Angry Jade Panda does wonders as an example

plush tendon
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Def trinkets?

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what the heck are those?

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Whetstone and Totem or gtfo

cloud umbra
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if it will ever drop!

cerulean tusk
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If ya don't already got it. Farm more hippo

plush tendon
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gotta get the ring anyways

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and Court super easy to run

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and good to just fill up the vault

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we ended up doing 3 last night; started with a 22 easy, 21 even easier, and 20 what a joke

cerulean tusk
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CoS always a joke tho peepostudy

cloud umbra
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true

plush tendon
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the dangerous things in Court

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are body pulls

cloud umbra
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after the first bridge

plush tendon
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and not having aoe interrupts for imps

cerulean tusk
plush tendon
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we do docks now also

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everytime

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so much better then anything in the second zone

cloud umbra
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same, we do it when the healer is doing the skip

plush tendon
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eh, we dont do that skip

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we just pull the construct and pull the guard and wyrm pack to the left after first boss

cerulean tusk
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Imps is SR first, stun 2nd, they ded - no?

plush tendon
cloud umbra
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maybe a 2nd stun needed, but ya.. SR does ~50% of their hp lol

cerulean tusk
plush tendon
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so for us its Shock->Wailing->Chaos->Bear shout->My Shout->fear sigil

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they are locked down

cloud umbra
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thats insane lol.. sr is busted there

plush tendon
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and its not a issue

cloud umbra
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They want to pad

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😄

plush tendon
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and honestly, we need to start pulling the imps on top of packs anyways

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doing them seperate kind of a waste

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but in a pug, Im always pulling imps seperate; cant trust pugs

cerulean tusk
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I pull imps, then the pat as imps blastin

cloud umbra
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ya with the 2 pack inquisitor/shadow slash isnt bad at all

plush tendon
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I like first set of imps with the three pack (dependiing on enforcer spawn. Ill even do imps with enforcer if pathing good) or imps with the two pack on the right side

cloud umbra
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oh ya, you start on the left side

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It really does feel bad to get most of your percentage in the first area, and small pull the rest of the dung

cerulean tusk
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SR always worth tho catjam

cloud umbra
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it def feels good to pump out 400k dps on those imps lol

cerulean tusk
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DPS need only to wait 2 sec too

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Not like they lose any DMG sadge

plush tendon
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prob instigate

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most of the fight, you are hitting one thing

cloud umbra
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its show of force > battering ram right? I thought the earlier talents had it the other way around

plush tendon
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and when you do plateform, you prob popping cooldowns anyway

plush tendon
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so that Demo Shout and Shield Charge are always synced

silver pagoda
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What do you guys use to live third boss of TJS? I could live (barely) 3 strikes and then I was screwed. Talking about green phase ofc

cloud umbra
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I haven't seen any logs of anyone doing that. I have seen a few times in here people saying they dont use thunderlord

craggy pilot
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god damn Quaking is toxic in Tree boss AA 🤣

viscid plaza
plush tendon
oblique kayak
plush tendon
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thunderlords>Shield Charge if you need more Demo Shout uptime for survive

plush tendon
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its 20% DR no?

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but yea, i aint dsyncing; but that appears to be the case scenario

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of why youll Thunderlords over battering ram

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still probably doesnt apply to like 99% of people

edgy grail
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It desyncs shout from avatar

craggy pilot
edgy grail
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How are you not desyncing?

craggy pilot
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and they think its "defensive"

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its not rly that defensive tbh

edgy grail
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Battering ram for me is 6%+ ST

plush tendon
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battering ram is swag

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big slams

craggy pilot
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i cant feel a difference between demo shout be ing up or not

plush tendon
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likewise

deft mortar
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How to fail a fkn RBL 18

plush tendon
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but if you doing like a 26 AA, it might be more noticable

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granted, like 2 people are doing that key

deft mortar
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I cant believe im failing fkn keys below 20

plush tendon
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so, not applicable to the rest of us

cloud umbra
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So its better to have it in sync than to have it up more often

plush tendon
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yea

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for damage purposes

cloud umbra
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ill have to test it out

plush tendon
#

which is what we use it for

#

demo->SC

#

every 45 seconds

deft mortar
#

Legit my key fell from 21 Jade Serpent to 17 SBG and it makes me wanna delete

viscid plaza
#

Bad groups happen. Take a breather and come back to it man.

plush tendon
#

do other peoples keys

oblique kayak
#

The Pug-Life. Had 4 horrid groups that couldn’t kill 1. boss Cos20 - then times a 23 Av

deft mortar
#

Other ppl dont inv me cuz im garbage remember :S

cloud umbra
#

I just cant do pugs anymore..

deft mortar
#

Either its my key and it goes down or cant play at all

#

Literally why would I even bother do any key below 20

oblique kayak
icy bane
#

Did my 8 20s for the week time to relax gladge

plush tendon
#

Im only at 4 right now

#

but lots of keys for this weekend

rose cobalt
#

Such a good week to push keys

plush tendon
#

gotta a 22 RLP to smash

plush tendon
deft mortar
#

Tyra weeks are impossible given how trash ppl are

icy bane
#

Just spammed them on Tuesday, gonna push over the weekend to get some keys to 20-21

plush tendon
#

we arent good enough where affix is gonna brick the key off the bat

deft mortar
#

After seeing an entire team of 2.6k dps kill each other with Quaking under Hyrja bubble

#

I may as well mutli box this shit

oblique kayak
icy bane
#

23 academy critcake

deft mortar
#

score and ilvl is literally irrelevant

plush tendon
oblique kayak
plush tendon
#

cause that stuff was fine imo

#

we did the 100% before second boss strat last week

oblique kayak
deft mortar
#

Had a 2850 score Rogue die to Wise Mari meme

#

Like HOW

#

Did u get there if you are so blind

silver pagoda
# plush tendon

this assumes you go defender's aegis for the second charge of shield wall or will you just have it back with reductions

plush tendon
icy bane
plush tendon
#

not terrible

#

lined up stuns for piercings

#

got rid of arcane furys

#

honestly, quite chill

icy bane
#

Ye I don’t how I feel about the quad furies pull in a pug but i trust you

plush tendon
#

but im only in the 21-22 range

plush tendon
#

you skip that one

oblique kayak
#

had a 45k lock in av24 last week. „if you don’t pull at least 3 packs i can’t do dmg“ on the fury-Ring

icy bane
#

Oh I watched someone do frog skip and they pull those

plush tendon
#

you cna

#

you dont have to

#

thats a very spicey pull

#

but doing 3 was fine... whats a 4th?

#

so maybe that might be fine to do

sick sentinel
#

same icon for dk frost tree choice talent

#

sloppy lol

plush tendon
#

just have to find what works for you

#

like my hated mob in that dungeon are arcane guard dudes that do that stupid knockback

#

fuck those guys

oblique kayak
icy bane
#

100% before 2nd boss is both rings, all the lashers, entire 2nd boss area, whelp patrol in first room and 2nd hallway? Not at computer to check

#

Prolly check MDT when I get home, timed a 19 so trying to get a 20-21 done for io

plush tendon
#

yea, just check it; you literally do everything but the 4 fury 1 thrasher pack

#

then after 2nd boss, you just jump down and do the two enforcers bois

#

super good last week cause I was nervous about bolstered Screamy bois after 2nd boss

#

but this week, we doing all the trash after second boss

#

that stuff is great

sick sentinel
#

anybody know the name of the toy that puts down a mechanical platform where if people step on it, it changes the person's race

tepid lion
#

atomic recalibrator

sick sentinel
#

danks

buoyant narwhal
uneven ice
#

I need a place to find good pugs with calm people who doesn't asks 3100 rio for a +15

#

please?

rose cobalt
#

What's your ilvl cause I've never had an issue getting invited to any key

upbeat star
#

Allied Wrists or Elemental Lariat for 2nd embellishment?

cold pollen
#

i have trouble getting into 22 while 2850

turbid shuttle
uneven ice
#

BUT

uneven ice
#

1300 rio cause i play only few hours a week, so i can't push hard

plush tendon
#

but im a idiot

uneven ice
#

So, i don't get invited

plush tendon
buoyant narwhal
#

😂

turbid shuttle
#

Go in to littlewigs and put a custom sound on it. Then you hear the sound you step to side. Ez.

#

I use the same sound for all avoidable frontals

plush tendon
#

oh, I know its coming, Im ready for it and all that stuff

rose cobalt
plush tendon
#

i just fuck it up

#

cause im bad

plush tendon
#

and then I fall off

#

and kill the key

turbid shuttle
#

Practice makes perfect

rose cobalt
#

Just constantly spin in a circle and tell melee to adjust

sick sentinel
#

if yogi can do ksm ANY BODY can do ksm

uneven ice
#

xd

plush tendon
#

honestly, its when I pull only two is it a problem

round pendant
#

KSM isn't hard

plush tendon
#

when I pull like 4, im like ok, this is good

rose cobalt
#

KSH isn't hard either

plush tendon
#

idk, me and them are just mortal enemies

uneven ice
turbid shuttle
#

I triple pulled the 2nd ring in a 20 yesterday. There were 3 (or maybe 4?). Was easy count. Mobs don't even do anything.

sick sentinel
uneven ice
#

How i'm scared?

round pendant
#

AV is a joke now

rose cobalt
#

Das cap

round pendant
#

Except a little respect required for fortified weeks

#

just a little tho

uneven ice
#

first, i sweat. Then , the tremors. And lastly, i faint

plush tendon
#

AV timer is still tightish

#

and lots of places for errors

reef holly
echo scarab
#

I cant get the spellqueue thing on hyrja to work, i hate my life

rose cobalt
#

People that act like av got balanced like RLP 💀 AV has been the hardest dungeon week to week uncontested

sick sentinel
plush tendon
rose cobalt
#

What's the difference dude

sick sentinel
#

ksm, 30 valdraken, 200 mounts fuck loads of transmog all on same day

plush tendon
plush tendon
#

then get stuck on something else

#

where we cant kill it

round pendant
#

RLP is harder, fight me

plush tendon
#

like no chance, this aint happening

round pendant
#

It's easy too, but puggers throw it in the trash every time

#

at least AV is hard to fuck up

plush tendon
#

so AV just forces you to play aggressive

uneven ice
#

Well, tonight i will try to do my 14 AV

rose cobalt
#

All of my AVs are like 2-3 minutes over time and I'm chain pulling shit as fast as I can

echo scarab
uneven ice
#

Wish me luck, as the fisrt time i will step on that nightmare

turbid shuttle
#

RLP pugs throw on 2nd boss by placing adds at edge of fire and throwing boulders where we want to stand.

#

Also throwing fire in stupid spots on last boss

round pendant
#

Yup

uneven ice
#

I timed a RLP 12 yesterday, and with SB and DS was really chill

upbeat star
#

Allied Wrist or Elemental Lariat for 2nd embellishment. I'm leaning Lariat with Haste?

uneven ice
#

Also, good dps group

turbid shuttle
#

Other than that it's pretty easy. Everything else you can more or less solo carry as pwar

rose cobalt
slim dove
#

Wake up all golems

#

It's fun.

#

First pull I peak 450k as arms wicked

turbid shuttle
cloud umbra
#

if you just pull like a madman during frogs its ok. 1 breaker each time

short sail
#

Hey all, I've been having a problem in raids where my co-tank (Demon Hunter) seems to be ripping threat off of me on the boss when I taunt and I can't see why this is..
I'm hitting my rotation hard and he's doing maybe 8 - 10k more DPS than me but no matter what.. when I taunt and establish threat he somehow ends up with it
At the moment i've been essentially taunting on cooldown to make sure he doesn't get double hit by tank busters.. but it just seems odd that this is even a problem...

Any suggestions on what might be going on?

round pendant
#

People waste a lot of time fighting the frogs for some reason

#

just let them come with you

#

and then kill them at the end

vivid rivet
#

What trinkets to aim for in M+? I have access to raid trinkets aswell

round pendant
#

Whetstone

vivid rivet
#

rn running RBWS and Spiteful Storm

#

which one should I replace with Whetstone

slim dove
#

Spiteful is meh

buoyant narwhal
vivid rivet
#

is kinda nice on Tyra no?

#

with 3-4 min bossfights

slim dove
#

Ideally, all totem + Whetstone is the move for m+

echo scarab
slim dove
#

In m+, yes.

echo scarab
#

ig it depends on how many use icon

short sail
turbid shuttle
echo scarab
modern brook
#

Either a ur playing bad or b he's tauntint

turbid shuttle
#

Also if he's consistently ripping after you taunt, tell him to stop blowing CDs after your taunt.

modern brook
#

Logs fix all

subtle sparrow
#

10 wipes on last boss in SBG because both DHs keep blade dancing into the wall.

thin silo
#

Logs can tell you if he's taunting, too

turbid shuttle
#

Also a plater profile that shows when he's getting close to ripping from you. If it turns orange he needs to dial back.

short sail
#

the issue was on Dathea

#

I'd taunt on 2 stacks then she goes into Cyclone and even though my UI said I had threat and I was the closest to her after the Cyclone he would end up with threat and get slammed

subtle sparrow
#

What's the deal with the eggs on Diurna HC? Being in stacks of 3 I mean. Are some of them fake or does she do 3 eggs there?

slim dove
#

She drops threat when cyclone ends.

short sail
#

really?

cloud umbra
#

you have to taunt right before cyclone ends

round pendant
#

re-taunt after cyclone

#

or as it ends

slim dove
#

Complete wipe. Taunt the second cyclone ends.

short sail
#

Yeah, I figured that out last night on the fly

craggy kelp
#

any transmog farmers in here? how do i get into this dungeon,says lfr but thers no lfr for this

slim dove
round pendant
#

Also you should be able to do more dps

#

pump harder

subtle sparrow
lofty widget
viscid plaza
round pendant
#

sadga my dathea heroic wasn't logged

craggy kelp
#

what token?

short sail
#

Thanks for the heads up guys, now things make more sense

#

Will pump harder

viscid plaza
# craggy kelp what token?

there are vendors in the shrine that sell stuff it'll tell you what token you need but apparently you can queue lfr? weird

#

But Lorewalker Han is the one you're looking for he's on top of mogushan palace next to cho

echo scarab
#

so if i just want to farm sparks, is running +2's a thing to do?

modern brook
#

Dirt p sure

echo scarab
#

ohno

#

💀

icy bane
cloud umbra
#

i keep getting beamed by hyrja at the wrong times

#

someone said its a distance thing, and i will be inside of her and it'll still happen sometimes

quiet monolith
warm plinth
#

What do you mean the wrong times

quiet monolith
#

next spark suggestions? should i go for wep?

warm plinth
#

yes

cloud umbra
#

Like beamed on pull

warm plinth
#

you should

quiet monolith
#

kk

#

does it matter which?

warm plinth
#

How are you pulling her?

#

No, it doesn't

cloud umbra
#

usually stand right where i tank her and pull her

warm plinth
#

so you're off to the side and you ranged pull yeah?

cloud umbra
#

ya slight ranged. But shes done it mid pull before too, After getting beamed going back to the blue side, shes beamed me again over there

warm plinth
#

super weird, never seen that before

sick sentinel
#

tendies mount acquiired

vocal bison
#

tauren prot warrior supremacy

marble cipher
#

Weird way of saying 'panda'

upbeat star
#

Need advice on 2nd embellishment. Lariat or Allied Wrists.

stray dome
#

for damage, whats more important, weapon or shield?

sick sentinel
warm plinth
#

Weapon

#

Because they literally have different effects

#

Why does everyone think flavor pocket and panda are the same thing

sick sentinel
#

wait, oh, whats difference then

#

enlighten me

uncut helm
#

Double duration =/= double effect lol

warm plinth
#

Panda doubles the stat. Embellishment doubles the duration

sick sentinel
#

why not both?

warm plinth
#

That's exactly the point

uncut helm
#

For both you'd be a panda with packet

warm plinth
#

If you are panda + have the embellishment, you have double effect and double duration.

reef holly
sick sentinel
#

its hard to undersell just how much alchemy flavor pocket saves you on gold of food items

#

make 150 food now, lasts 2 weeks probably

woeful trellis
icy bane
#

Embellishments are like 1% damage, it’s whatever your weakest ilvl is. Min Max I’d do both if I didn’t have fire raid rings.

craggy kelp
#

on our 1h weapon what devotion we put?

jagged pier
rough egret
#

Sophic/frozen

#

But sim

craggy kelp
#

sim for what tho

#

to tank more?

rough egret
#

We use enchants for dps

craggy kelp
#

isnt soph for armor tho?

rough egret
#

Tank dmg matters

jagged pier
#

no its for strength

#

it gives armour as a side effect

mortal brook
#

Dead enemies do less damage to you it's very tanky to kill them

jagged pier
#

cause class

craggy kelp
#

but using ench on 389 mythic wep isnt rlly smart right?

rough egret
#

There is a cheapee version

#

Called writ

icy bane
#

Depends on how easily you can get another weapon, price of enchant, disposable gold income

rough egret
#

Sophic writt

mortal brook
#

I don't know your gold to enjoyment to time spectrum, get a r2 for cheap if you want tho sure

craggy kelp
#

i dunno

#

playing for 3 days

#

idont think i have any gold enjoyment xD

rough egret
#

On my server devotions are 10k

craggy kelp
#

14k here

#

and i got 20k

jagged pier
#

enchants are region wide im pretty sure

mortal brook
#

Grab a r2 then tbh

craggy kelp
#

done

rough egret
#

Or writ thats like 1k or smthing

mortal brook
#

If its a temp weapon

craggy kelp
#

it is

#

think ill craft 405 wep soon

#

ok

#

so us ay we use ench for dmg

#

icy veins says fierce armor kit but frosted armor gives armor and str

#

so armor or stamina

frail mason
#

is Darkmoon trinket bugged or is it worth crafting?

mighty valley
#

but the diff is truly small

craggy kelp
#

ye i wnt with stamina allrdy,rip

subtle sparrow
#

I haven't done much M+, isn't SBG supposed to be the easy dungeon this season?

vast goblet
#

it is

#

SBG is free

mortal brook
#

That is every week yes

mighty valley
#

in relative terms, it's the easiest by far

uneven mason
#

Smbg and cos

mortal brook
#

Every single week

subtle sparrow
#

Second group that can't kill the last boss because 2-3 people die to the wall

queen canopy
#

Hi y'all, I'm new to prot war -- both icyveins and wowhead seem to say that we should be taking Tough as Nails instead of Spell Block, but murlok.io says that more people take spell block... whats the thought?

mighty valley
#

yeah so, every dungeon is hard if half the group doesn't know how to play world of warcraft

vast goblet
#

trick is to only go straight thru

queen canopy
vast goblet
#

cant veer off to the sides at all until its way past you

mortal brook
#

Take tough as nails as a default go spell block when you need it

woeful trellis
#

Bjoolz which add do you focus?

uneven mason
subtle sparrow
mighty valley
queen canopy
#

What dungeons would you take spell block in?

mighty valley
#

i love when five of us say the same thing at once

#

tjs, rlp tyrannical

queen canopy
#

Me too bc I trust it lol

subtle sparrow
#

And the ranged didn't understand how that aoe pillar thingy worked

woeful trellis
#

The cleave? U mean frontal

subtle sparrow
#

Yes

mighty valley
#

those groups would have been even worse in any other dungeon

subtle sparrow
#

And, the one that falls down from the sky on the furthest range

uneven mason
#

Spell block is probably good for AV as well

subtle sparrow
#

So we always had two AoE pillars in the middle

woeful trellis
#

Oiii frontal is random

subtle sparrow
woeful trellis
#

How high do u run?

subtle sparrow
#

That was 14

slim dove
subtle sparrow
#

We get there with like 12 minutes left

mighty valley
#

this was their opportunity to learn where to stand for the pillar

#

i guess no one explained it well or they can't read

subtle sparrow
#

It's always a DH that dies to the wall. I guess they just zoom around and never learn

woeful trellis
#

What I learned for „low“ pugs only get one ranged dps

subtle sparrow
#

Just stand in melee. What ranged can't stand in melee?

woeful trellis
#

No

#

It’s not ranged, it’s class what triggers

#

Range dps like mage Hunter priest etc

subtle sparrow
#

We did a run with one ranged in melee and healer outside, it always hit the healer

mighty valley
#

if the ranged stand in melee, the pillars will drop on them

subtle sparrow
#

When I did it with friends

woeful trellis
#

Example you got hunter 2 rogues you and priest heal it will always go on hunter

#

If you are 3 rogues 1 Pala 1 Tank it goes random on all

sick sentinel
#

welp

#

see you next week lol

woeful trellis
#

3 rogues 1 priest heal and you it will go on heal

subtle sparrow
#

We had warlock and shaman healer

#

DH and rogue

woeful trellis
#

So only the warlock will get it

subtle sparrow
#

The warlock was fine, but warlock is kinda bleh single target when they spec for cleave

woeful trellis
#

So u Need to teach him and all others stand in front of boss

subtle sparrow
#

I mean, he didn't die to the wall

#

I don't understand why you need tacs for the cleave, it's not a hard dodge

#

I guess some people need tacs for everything

#

Third time's a charm? Queing again

woeful trellis
#

Yeah 😁 gl, just take 1 range - say all Meele in front so u bait the frontal away from range and take a middle add so u have enough time

deft mortar
#

bruh is there more tanks or smth this expansion

subtle sparrow
#

A ton

woeful trellis
#

Some of them maybe don’t have the graphic setting that they see the wall behind the wall

deft mortar
#

I mean yeah there is 5k better tanks than me but fuck

#

cant find a group

subtle sparrow
sick sentinel
viscid plaza
subtle sparrow
#

Either my friends got worse or it seems like you need more damage to clear a 15 key

deft mortar
#

I can probs solo some 15s kekw

subtle sparrow
#

We could not clear third boss in academy last week, couldn't kill the adds

rotund dew
#

20 RLP first boss hits like a truck with the overlap of the zone and the spell. Anything else I can do with besides spellblock?

deft mortar
#

Legit did more healing than our resto shaman this AV 20

cloud umbra
#

the tree boss?

subtle sparrow
deft mortar
#

RLP even if u reflect every cd its hard ngl

cloud umbra
#

As long as you are getting dispelled, you can live that in a 15 forever

deft mortar
#

and than ur 1 iq priest healer dies to ice thing

subtle sparrow
woeful trellis
deft mortar
#

I wont die to that meme boss anyway buddy

subtle sparrow
#

We even put up pillars for where to walk to spawn them together, fucked up

woeful trellis
#

Ahh missunderstood

deft mortar
#

Btw the AoE leech and BV rly holds up when adds are up

woeful trellis
#

Bjoolz do you Play with voice

deft mortar
#

No need defensives when they up

cloud umbra
#

Even if its a little spread out, you have a lot of stuff to yoink aggro, one set can be aoe taunted

subtle sparrow
deft mortar
#

I wish rerolls upgraded keys to current timed level ngl

rotund dew
woeful trellis
icy bane
#

I’d play double wall for RLP, useful on each boss.

subtle sparrow
#

Anyone elses' ingame friends list going blank randomly?

woeful trellis
cloud umbra
#

log out of battle net and log back in

rotund dew
subtle sparrow
deep spruce
subtle sparrow
#

Like 380 on a 14 key so not optimal :P

rotund dew
#

Are images allowed in here?

icy bane
#

Yeah

rotund dew
woeful trellis
woeful trellis
woeful trellis
icy bane
#

Ye idk, I don’t run ITF in m+

subtle sparrow
icy bane
#

-ITF -bolster +defender aegis +heavy repercussions

uneven mason
#

The big tree add that spawns casts massive heals and applies a dot, when it dies everyone needs to be in the circle otherwise the dot becomes fatal

rotund dew
deep spruce
subtle sparrow
#

Druid

deep spruce
#

Did he spec into disease dispel?

#

Did he dispel u

wintry ridge
#

Does anyone have a link to a WA or add on that shows SW and SR timer, I was able to find a WA for IP and SB. I would just like to have it enlarged so I can track when to pop my next defensive or run lol

uneven mason
deep spruce
#

Aye, same thing :smiler:

uneven mason
#

Adjust as needed

late surge
#

Is Unstable Frostfire Belt BiS without fire finger?

uneven mason
#

It's not any better than the other embellishments

late surge
#

which other embelishment?

uneven mason
#

Any of them

#

Like they're all pretty equal

jagged pier
#

i would say it slightly more consistent than other embelishments tbh]

uneven mason
#

1%ish iirc

jagged pier
#

its like 1% at its worst

#

some like spikes do like .7% at its worse

uneven mason
#

True

late surge
#

so basically go with lariat+waist

hazy sluice
#

yo for lariat haste proc i need the 70 crit + 33 Haste Gems right?

agile pumice
#

yeah

#

any 33 haste gems

queen canopy
#

Or the 88 haste gem

teal crown
#

Okay squad, how TF do you do the last trash pull of TJS?

reef holly
sand mason
#

Its in the pins

teal crown
#

Just finished a 17 and that fucker hurt

subtle sparrow
#

That's how I do it

sand mason
reef holly
teal crown
#

Okay, it's that minion of doubt that makes me irrationally angry too.

subtle sparrow
#

In TJS, I just pull a ton and it feels like the mobs are doing 0 damage, then suddenly I lose 90% of my health in 1 second

teal crown
#

I try ranging that claw but I can't just seem to miss it. I just need practice, thanks for the suggestions. It just seems wrong to kite.

teal crown
wide vapor
#

The little non-caster dudes are tank busters iirc

teal crown
subtle sparrow
#

I hate court of stars. I don't know any of the tricks or item spawns there

#

It feels like I'm doing something wrong 90% of the time

teal crown
#

Makes the random spawns easy by telling you who in your party can activate them.

tender spade
#

Gearing my prot warrior. Since I don't raid, I'm not gonna get the fire rings. Is frost fire belt still the thing to craft for embelishment?

jagged pier
#

its still pretty good emblieshment

#

they are all about the same

tender spade
#

So worth making, thanks 🙂

#

Off to make a crafting order

ripe sparrow
#

Why does it feel like sometimes I take no damage and others I can keep up. I feel like a god one minute and then a wet noodle

subtle sparrow
#

Is your shield block dropping?

ripe sparrow
#

That’s the only thing I can think is happening

sick sentinel
#

nope

#

thats 100% because spell damage

#

even if your shield block drops you wont feel as dramatically different compared to spell damage

turbid shuttle
# teal crown Yeah, the minions cast dark claw and it was easily half my health just now. Eve...

Charge and get snap threat with whatever. Wait about 5 seconds then shockwave to sync up their casts. Spell reflect all 3. After that, wall -> spell block -> wall -> last stand + rally. Mix in additional reflects as it comes up. Focus the haunting sha. If you do this you have about 40-50s of DPS time. On tyrannical they should be dead by then. On fortified you'll probably need to kite a bit to finish up.

Did this 2x on 20 yesterday (tyrannical) and did not kite at all.

cloud umbra
#

does shockwaving pre dark claw actually sync their casts up? Cause i've never been able to get all 3 of them to cast the the same time

mighty valley
edgy bone
#

@cloud umbra CUZ UR NOT SEEING THE HIDDEN CLOCK

cloud umbra
#

I see when its available

sick sentinel
#

do you keep stacking haste after 30%

rough egret
#

Aim to 40

#

So, yes

echo canyon
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what is the best phial for prot warr?

sick sentinel
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just use vers in keys

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its cheaper

dim crescent
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Any suggestion on dealing with Kokia Blazehoof's searing blows? It says it's pure physical

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doing 19's and I'm getting slapped so hard.

sick sentinel
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yea

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you need a macro for pugs

wraith prism
sick sentinel
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at 19 if youre not terribly undergeared and died in wall its healers problem

wraith prism
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Goes without saying too, make sure you have ignore pain up as much as possible

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Don’t fat finger defensive CDs like me

sick sentinel
rose cobalt
reef holly
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WTB blacksmith who can make 418 shield…sadge

woeful trellis
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i looked up warris that have the shield from my server and wrote them 😄

sick sentinel
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so, what are good alts to make? (level from 60 to 70)t

woeful trellis
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WHOOOO DID IT ;D

sick sentinel
woeful trellis
sick sentinel
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literal specced into armor and shields

woeful trellis
subtle sparrow
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I remember Tyrannical being much worse in BFA, was it different then?

blazing condor
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Why are tou made of molten lava

woeful trellis
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cause im hot 😉

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2nd gear

woeful trellis
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we evolved - and this is a no affix week

vernal aurora
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for m+ is it advised to do embellished wrists or embesslished belt?

reef holly
tropic tangle
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ultimately you want fire ring, so you want the belt

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you can make a choice beyond that between Lariat and Wrists for M+

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could always adjust gear later if you wanted to use wrist/lariat at the moment

craggy kelp
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can we pick fueled by violance instead of brutal vitality?

rough egret
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Why would you?

craggy kelp
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bcz of hot?

rough egret
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BV is much better

craggy kelp
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and i dotn rlly understand what brutal does xactly

edgy bone
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@craggy kelp bro what is that profile pic

rough egret
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You have IP up, and you do dmg

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%amount form dmg fuel your IP

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good synergy with 4p tier set aswell

craggy kelp
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ok

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and what about bsv instead of revager

mighty valley
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bsv doesn't work how you'd hope

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and ravager is a ton of damage

rough egret
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We dont do that

craggy kelp
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ok,im just asking xD

rough egret
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😄

quiet monolith
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what we doin for wep, sophic devotion?

rough egret
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But overall yeah

edgy bone
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@rough egret prot Sims for DPS now?

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Tanks never used to be able to sim

rough egret
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Well thats not true

edgy bone
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Did they finally write an APL for simcraft to work correctly?

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@rough egret sure they could sim but it was misleading

near notch