protection

[patent saddle]

Am talking about 1st boss mechanics in sbg

[warm plinth]

The runes will do damage to you if you walk over them, yes. But it's not a significant amount.

[patent saddle]

Ok

[warm plinth]

On a +25 tyranical, shadow rune does like 44k unmitigated

26*

Actually I don't think it even scales. It just does 44k damage no matter what

Yeah confirmed, it's just 44k damage, no matter what key level

[frozen rose]

Do trinkets change any talents we take? or makes no dif

[ionic fern]

No difference.

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

[ionic fern]

Good morning.

[pliant monolith]

Juste behind you mate

But... you did not timed?!

[woeful trellis]

U can leap to him, jump > leap > interrupt

[hazy sluice]

2nd boss ruby on a +20 tyr stresses me out

[limber flame]

every boss in ruby is just stressful

[hazy sluice]

Yeah but last boss is more heal stress not Tank Stress for me

The first is stress and the second is more stress

Rips ma balls

[limber flame]

reroll dwarf

[hazy sluice]

Tanking with prot is like u either don't feel anything or you gotta cycle your CDs haarrrrdd and hope for the best

[limber flame]

[hazy sluice]

Yeah that's what I'm nearly on comitting

Srsly

[limber flame]

ye i think about it every tyr week kek

[hazy sluice]

Didn't do crawth on 20 tyr yet

Guess will be the same feeling for me

My heal evoker sometimes doesn't even have the global free to bleed dispel me

[limber flame]

did it on 21 ran immovable and double shield wall

[hazy sluice]

Sadge

[limber flame]

just swapped to immovable and double shield wall after downing tree boss

[hazy sluice]

But is double shield wall not less shield walls over all ? Or not true for single target ?

[limber flame]

maybe i just like it

its comfy

[hazy sluice]

Yeah it's more easy to plan with

I feel u there

I just trusted lepans ruby VOD where he took the other talent for granting more shield walls in general. But that's for m+ general and first boss with all the welps hitting you, so that may be not true for single target blocking. But guess @strong forum or @ionic fern can help here out

[limber flame]

ye double wall might be overkill for most, probably run it in RLP/TJS

think immovable very good in those too

[rough egret]

I usually leap there and interupt him

Also im a pug life enjoyer

So i gotta do alot things

[pallid hare]

is frozen vs sophic devotion better for M+ dmg?

[limber flame]

frozen

but sim it

[ionic fern]

It's less Shield Walls overall, je.
The double SW is solid when you need them back to back pretty much.

[patent saddle]

Well I had 2 ppl in voice with me , told me not to go myself for kick cause then mobs can cleave grp , so I was positioning those meles away from grp , they keep putting debuffs on me , nobody kicked that caster and he kept putting his shit on ground around me , while free casting all the time , I had dh with me Rouge mage and druid healer , and it was my fault when I died cause nobody kicked the caster and I was told not to go do it myself

[ionic fern]

RLP 2nd boss is kinda bad in the way that it's a lot of movement so you can't really get many SS'is in between (running out of circles/bowling balls/leaping away from exploding add etc) .

Evoker dispell*
Dwarf Racial*
IP spam
IV/LS
Paired with a defensive/healer external.

[rough egret]

Replace your friends

Its team fight

Shielmaidens are easy to handle

Im usually pullig also the pack after with it

[limber flame]

just tell your dps to stay at the bottom as you pull everything up

[patent saddle]

Normally I grab those mele mobs , go up to caster kick him kite all in like U positioning so they don't cleave grp , and they told me no don't do that we can't hit properly on mele , we will kick the mob don't go up the stairs , I do that , we wipe cause nobody kick caster and they blame it on me then

[ionic fern]

Tell them to stfu and do your thing.

Don't listen to DPS'ers

They mongs.

[limber flame]

can tank all the mobs on the plateau he stand on facing over the ledge

[odd nimbus]

how much dungeon slice sim can be trusted?

[ionic fern]

8%.

[limber flame]

dps wont get cleaved, you dont gotta worry bout anything

[rough egret]

[ionic fern]

You still gotta move out of the frontals.

[limber flame]

just face tank em on tyr

[rough egret]

They got cleaved only when they stand behind you when the ladyes cast their frontal attack 🙂

[ionic fern]

They will start hurting on higher keys.

It's armor reduction+ healing reduction.

[patent saddle]

That's what I told them how are they getting cleaved if I kick caster and grab him myself , I face all mobs away and grab all and grp them up , it's 1x going up to stairs to get caster

[limber flame]

gotta treat them like dogs

tell them to stay

[rough egret]

😄

[ionic fern]

Did you have no ranged DPS in your grp?

[rough egret]

Mage

[patent saddle]

Had mage

[ionic fern]

.

What's the issue then

[patent saddle]

And dh

[rough egret]

He was mage

[patent saddle]

Dh can kick it too

[rough egret]

That was the issue about mage

[ionic fern]

"Mage/DH interrupt"

Ok.

They don't interrupt? /leave.

[patent saddle]

They told me they couldn't

[ionic fern]

THEY ARE

STUPID

THEY CAN.

[patent saddle]

Well I did leave cause cba

[ionic fern]

My Evoker does it all the time.

[rough egret]

I fooled myslef again yesterday and invited a mage into RLP

[ionic fern]

Literally any ranged dps can interrupt it.

[patent saddle]

First I should not go kick myself "they can't dps then"

[ionic fern]

Maybe we had the same mage in the group.
I got a Arcane mage on a +23 saying they can't kick because they are bursting.

Insta leave.

[limber flame]

crazy that cobalt ring sims higher then 405 unstable arcane ring

feel like sim over values proc

[patent saddle]

I don't go do it myself they don't kick am away from caster can't go do it anymore we wipe cause caster not kicked and controlled, and am getting blamed

[ionic fern]

Je.

That's the game.

[rough egret]

What key lvl was that? 🙂

[ionic fern]

Just remember that the ranged should do first.

You do 2nd.

[patent saddle]

21

[ionic fern]

Then melees.

ANd then you afk.

[rough egret]

Oof

[oblique kayak]

it’s always our fault

[rough egret]

And they dont know interupts

[limber flame]

im in a 21 and these dps brains are telling me that shit

[ionic fern]

It's fine if it's always our fault.
We just leave and find a new key before they find a new tank.

[patent saddle]

I timed that key many times , each time I grab the caster kick myself get mobs in line all good

[limber flame]

x has left the party

[ionic fern]

[oblique kayak]

Same in AV last key 22 - they raged because i tanker last boss on the sloap🤷‍♂️

[patent saddle]

I leave it 1x how they wana do it , wipe , I get blamed

[woeful trellis]

Yeah just pull everything up, and side step that armor pen from em, u only get normal white hits there. Get the shieldmaid in aswell and that two dudes so u have enough room

[patent saddle]

So basically don't listen to dps complains and do shit myself properly

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[limber flame]

yes

always

[patent saddle]

Okay thanks

[limber flame]

you are the tank, you set the pace of the dungeon

[ionic fern]

https://media.giphy.com/media/6UFgdU9hirj1pAOJyN/giphy.gif

[patent saddle]

Allright thanks

[odd nimbus]

what weapon rune should i use?using howling for haste proc atm

[limber flame]

howling rune usually

[ionic fern]

I use AP for m+.

Rune for ST.

[rough egret]

Had a perfect run in RLP yesterday, 10 mins for last boss… healer got some irl issues so we waited 5 min for him and then we wiped like 5 times on last boss cus he was doing 20k hps there and dpsers were bleeding out from the dots

[ionic fern]

To be fair, that boss wrecks.

There's some nasty overlaps when the dragon comes down..a ton of damage going out while healers getting silenced.

[rough egret]

Yes but i thought druids can pull more

We eventuelly did it, with bl on pull so the dragon was on ground faster

[ionic fern]

Je, they definitely can. I'm just saying that it's a really nasty fight for them.

The healer i usually run with hates that fight and he's really good.

[patent saddle]

Man rlp is cancer to pug , I have naowh weak auras , and on last boss my weak auara tipes in party where next wind is going , and my party can't even drop fire on ground properly to clean , it's all over the platform

[rough egret]

Same

Stiefbruder

[patent saddle]

Yup

There is always 1-2 dps dying there cause can't get off the fire

And they are literally being told what to do where to drop it during the fight

[rough egret]

Thing is that they probably dont understand it

The text i mean

Where is up down

[ionic fern]

I don't ever read the text during an encounter.

o.o

That's the more likely cause.

[patent saddle]

Next fire left I put world marker , next wind down I put again world marker , I say before we start m+ all and explain all , and is for nothing

[ionic fern]

I mean..you shouldn't have to micromanage them.

It's basic knowledge.

[patent saddle]

Well I do wana finish the keys

[odd nimbus]

how is grieftorch for prot war?

[ionic fern]

Good.

[ionic fern]

Then you tell them BEFORE the key/boss.

What's going on.

Or link a WA.

[patent saddle]

That's the sad part , I do that

[ionic fern]

if they don't listen.

Leave.

[patent saddle]

Il have to start doing that I think

[odd nimbus]

it seems really good but feels weird to have it.usually i use the blazing hoof for haste and decorations or wetstone

[rough egret]

Ok enough of conveyer time to do some squats 😄 cya

[ionic fern]

USE GRIEFTORCH.

[warm plinth]

I've never even really paid attention to where I drop fire (I main DPS). Just away from the boss. 🤷

[patent saddle]

Do u not parry and block if you use grieftorch ?

[warm plinth]

I don't have a WA or anything for it

[ionic fern]

Same.

Fire? TO the sides.
Winds moving fire? Move away from it.

All they need is eyes.

[warm plinth]

Yep

[ionic fern]

[warm plinth]

If the fire is coming for you, maybe dodge it idk

Strange concept for some I guess

[patent saddle]

Some pugs I don't even know how they are over 2k

[ionic fern]

2k is easy.

Like

Too easy.

You can do it by ignoring all mechanics.

[warm plinth]

2k is like 13s and 14s

[patent saddle]

Btw that grieftorch iv been told is bad for prot ? Cause if u use it , you don't parry block dodge

[rough egret]

Yes had 2.3k mage in group and he was poop

[warm plinth]

You don't have to have a brain to do 13s and 14s

[ionic fern]

Even at 3k we get mongs so...

[ionic fern]

??????????????????

Who told you that.

Tell them to fo.

[warm plinth]

It's what, a 2 second channel? Shockwave, take a single unblocked melee (bosses), idk. Be smart about it and it's not hard to use.

[patent saddle]

Last night it dropped in raid with avoidance

I won it

Had to give it away

To Rouge

[ionic fern]

Why?

[patent saddle]

Cause "it's useless on me " I don't block parry if I use it

[ionic fern]

Man.

You are weird.

Wtf.

Stop listening to morons.

[warm plinth]

Pretty sure if I win an item and it's in my bags, I don't have to do shit 😏

[hazy sluice]

I am at nearly 2.7k and yesterday I needed 3 tries 2nd boss RLP to even really get it down to how to tank him kind of properly and realizing it's not just the bleed that wrecks but also the ele damage. Didn't even use spellblock for the ele because I was so focused on the bleed debuff. So yeah u can get score without even knowing some specific parts properly

[ionic fern]

But..it really is only the bleed.

[patent saddle]

Well I raid with this guild and few ppl I know from other games, so yea I been nice guy and said oh okay if that's the case then sure

[hazy sluice]

Like i got to 2.7k without even having done a higher rlp on tyr 😄

[ionic fern]

It's our best damaging trinket.

And DPS'ers drop like flies.

[shell mortar]

No it's not

[ionic fern]

So you get a ton of use out of it.

[hazy sluice]

My healer convinced me that the ele aoe did more dmg on me looking on damage taken

[sick sentinel]

the bleed also has an impact damage portion

which can be spell blocked

[hazy sluice]

I sucked at IP there I guess

[patent saddle]

So you can use it on prot ? U will still parry block and all if u click use on it ?

[sick sentinel]

i mean

[shell mortar]

Just gotta save your avatar + demo or 1:30 CDs for add spawn

[hazy sluice]

Had trouble outside of my CDs to pool rage that fight. Next time I maybe hold off CDs a bit for the ele/ bleed phase i dunno

[shell mortar]

Helps a lot

[sick sentinel]

if youre at least semi serious about pushing, better start getting used to pooling rage

ignore people telling you wasting rage is 100% bad 100% of the time

its sometimes necessary

[warm plinth]

Literally 76% of damage taken by the tank on the fight is the boss.

[sick sentinel]

yea

searing wounds cant be blocked

searing blows can be

spell blocke

[hazy sluice]

Yeah gotta be honest to myself here. I have overall done like 90 keys, 7 of them are timed 20s so I am nowhere near a super good prot war player that perfectly executes pooling rage without overcapping alot

[sick sentinel]

even if you overcap

sometimes you need it

[warm plinth]

Searing Blows can be regular blocked

It's physical

[sick sentinel]

huh

idk then

[warm plinth]

Wounds is the dangerous part of the spell for us

[hazy sluice]

Searing block is physical hit into bleed stacka

Which can only be parried

Sometimes u get lucky

There is quiet a difference between 2 or max 4 stacks in dmg

[sick sentinel]

just stoneform tbh

[hazy sluice]

But when I told my evoker that he dispells the next one he doesn't look if it's 1 or 4 stacka

[sick sentinel]

if youre not dwarf at this point youre doing it wrong

[hazy sluice]

On 1 it's kinda wasted

[warm plinth]

Yeah he needs to use his brain

[hazy sluice]

His brain is already overloaded with the group damage in the ele phase 😄

[shell mortar]

And? It still helps to hold demo shout or ravager+ CDs for add to litigate the 24% dam from add. The tank buster always comes in during add anyways. Only desyncs very late into fight

[hazy sluice]

He always tells me he doesn't even have the global free do dispel me

[fallen lichen]

That global should free up 3 new globals

[warm plinth]

I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to this.

Ele aoe does not do more damage to the tank than the boss.

[shell mortar]

Ah, my bad, sorry

[hazy sluice]

Yeah true he expects me to kinda overcome it solo because other tanks can it too.

🙂

[shell mortar]

You can do it solo

[patent saddle]

Do I still block and parry if I use trinket ?

[hazy sluice]

Yeah then I just need to improve alot more

[shell mortar]

Ele spawns, pop your 45s or 1:30 CDs

Searing blows wall first

Then SB

[ionic fern]

If it's a channel then no.

Who cares tho - it's 2s.

[hazy sluice]

Spellblock doesn't work for searing blows

[shell mortar]

Then 1:30s for next

[patent saddle]

Ok

[shell mortar]

You spellblock the add damage

[hazy sluice]

It's down to shield wall and your heals/IP/demo/punish kinda

[shell mortar]

Any damage taken less is good

[hazy sluice]

Ah yeah okay that's what I did wrong the first three pulls

[shell mortar]

Just don't use wall during your ravager window

[waxen patrol]

guys what the two best for m+? 24hcd is ruby whelp one

i have alot of valor to upgrade

[limber flame]

get whetstone

[warm plinth]

What ilevel is the whelp shell

[shell mortar]

Without thunderlord you have demo for every 2nd add spawn, would recommend savi g

[warm plinth]

Honestly all of those are shit though lol

[shell mortar]

With thunderlord you can demo every add

[rough egret]

Sim 🙂

[warm plinth]

If whelp shell is decent ilevel that's probably your best one.

[hazy sluice]

So I think about avatar+demo+ off CDs for add phase+searing blows and survive it with IP spamming/IV

The next shield wall and IV/IP

[waxen patrol]

i can set ilvl to sim in config?

[hazy sluice]

Then bleed dispell and spellblock

Then demo avatar and off CDs again

[rough egret]

In top gear yes

[fallen lichen]

Pumped 4k valor in my whetstone last week. Thinking another one is a myth. Open vault, 421 whetstone.

[waxen patrol]

yep but i planning to spent my valor in other ones too Y_Y

[warm plinth]

If you run top gear, click the plus sign next to the trinket and you can create a valor upgraded one. Just be sure to actually select the upgraded one after it's created.

[waxen patrol]

gonna see rn!!

[waxen patrol]

thanks

[rough egret]

But none of them are worth valoring imo

[warm plinth]

I agree

[rough egret]

Save it for whetstone / idol

[warm plinth]

Wait for whetstone and like, hoof or idol

[hazy sluice]

I have no trouble third boss temple, but planning your CDs on 2nd ruby boss, while u need to properly position and kicking the add and running like a madman is a challenge for me I gotta admit 😄

[ionic fern]

Just be me and:

Get that 421 Whetstone.

[icy bane]

Still waiting on 421 shield

[ionic fern]

Eeeh.

[fallen lichen]

Anyone had any luck getting a spark after last Wednesday? Have only seen 1 guildy getting one.

[wet crow]

rumbling ruby or kurog trinket? both at heroic

[icy bane]

Kurog for m+

[warm plinth]

I haven't seen one yet but I haven't played a huge amount either.

[dry spear]

Is the totem from kurog any good? Or too rng?

[rough egret]

Its good

[jagged pier]

its bis for m+

[dry spear]

Ohhh. Ok. Then lucky me. Have it in combo with the icon.

[uneven ice]

I just got a spark from raz yesterday I I don’t know what to do with it

Is it worth to craft something if all your gear is 395 already?

For stats?

(The ability to decide stats, I mean)

[blazing condor]

craft a 418 instead

[uneven ice]

Now I have lariat, shield and belt

[uneven ice]

Yeah, I forgot to say that I don’t have access to infusions

[rough egret]

Not doing 11-15 keys?

[uneven ice]

At least, not enough to craft 4 418

[uneven ice]

Yeah, but like 4 or 5 a week

[rough egret]

You will get 10 in 2 weeks

So you can upgrade then

[uneven ice]

I’m on my way to update the lariat

[rough egret]

Its not prio

[uneven ice]

I’ve upgraded shield and belt

[rough egret]

Shield > weap > strength armour > jwc

[uneven ice]

My thought was: do I craft a ring and put it into the upgrade queue?

[rough egret]

Sure

[uneven ice]

Which is the max lvl without infusion? 395?

[rough egret]

Ring is nice i have it also with the free food “embelish”

[foggy ruin]

leech or socket???

[rough egret]

392 iirc

Socket

[uneven ice]

And in rings I can put a socket via crafting?

[rough egret]

Ring has socket yes

[uneven ice]

Aaaaa nice

Which ring?

[rough egret]

Both of them are fine

You can craft both and wear them aswell

[uneven ice]

I got a 395 from world boss

So, I will make one, thought

[fallen lichen]

Do the crafted rings always have sockets? The belt en wrists don’t?

[rough egret]

Rings do have yes

[warm plinth]

Just ring and neck comes with 1

[uneven ice]

Any crafted trinket is worth?

[fallen lichen]

Oohh that’s quite a bit of ‘free’ stats then. Thanks.

[rough egret]

No

[uneven ice]

I’m running with resonating ruby and decoration, but from raid finder

These are the ones lowering my ilvl

[gloomy iris]

one question ！skip frog or not for this week？ AV 16+

I saw some team skip but others not， which route easier？

[sick sentinel]

this week you dont have to skip it but its also comp dependant

generally speaking your dps will have an easier time if you skip frogs

[gloomy iris]

thanks！

[deep dove]

Outside of avatar is SS prio over TC? for 2 targets

[fallen lichen]

Do you hero 2 and 4 when skipping? Just checked the skip out. Only timed it at 19 w/o skip. Want to try a 20 this week!

[deep dove]

and at what point does TC become better than SS outside of avatar?

[naive panther]

never?

[jagged pier]

5+ targets

[deep dove]

thanks, was struggling to find that info on wowhead/icyviens

[rough egret]

But you should always press SS for the rage gen 🙂

It does not mean that you only press TC in 5+

[sick sentinel]

yea pretty much, lust 1st room as well

you can do something like lust first room, clear first boss, jump skip both rings, clear 2nd boss room, lust 2nd boss, go back to clear rings, jump skip to 3rd boss

then you should have lust for 3rd or 4th boss. People usually lust 4th boss as 3rd boss is not that overtuned anymore

[gilded epoch]

New war here!

We do SS outside of avatar below 5 targets (otherwise TC)
In avatar even on 2 targets we TC?

[jagged pier]

no u never outburst tc under 5 targets

[gilded epoch]

outburst?

[cloud umbra]

violent outburst - talent

[warm plinth]

To clarify here, SS is priority over TC, it doesn't replace TC. You still press TC regardless.

[onyx vessel]

Refresh rend

[warm plinth]

I'll refresh your rend, if you know what I mean

[round shard]

When the buff of the 4p expires, should I press revenge or still SS and TC, if TC resets SS?

[gilded epoch]

does this change on target numbers?

[warm plinth]

🤔 I'm assuming you mean the 2pc. Neither tier bonus changes our rotation.

[onyx vessel]

Rend me harder?

[silent anchor]

I genuinely
After 2nd boss. I chain pull too 3rd boss. Pulling everything

[warm plinth]

TC never drops from the rotation. All that's happening is a priority shift. e.g. if both are off CD you press one or the other depending on the circumstances.

[onyx vessel]

Revenge to keep buff up tc on cd as long as ss isnt off cd

And rend isnt going to fall off

[warm plinth]

You should never have to think about Rend or the 2-pc bonus. Doing the rotation properly will take care of both of those. You don't go out of your way to maintain the 2pc bonus. It's okay if it drops from time to time.

[gilded epoch]

Gotcha so rule of thumb. DO TC/SS on CD and fill revange when you can/free 🙂

Thank you hope I got it right.

[round shard]

Yes

[onyx vessel]

I hover around 75-80% uptime on it during a key

[edgy spear]

Yeah you always TC often enough that rend is always up, and pressing revenge when SS/TC is off CD isn't something you should do outside of big target counts where you just want dmg and nothing else, not even considering the 2pc

[onyx vessel]

Should be a 10 second buff tbh

We need a buff

[edgy spear]

Pretty much. Name of the game is to generate as much rage as possible through SS/TC and when those are on CD, revenge to proc SS cd reset for more SS and rage

You dont want to be in a situation where you are just waiting for SS/TC to come off cd and you dont have revenge to fill the globals.

[warm plinth]

During Avatar, you want to use TC every other global. So it'll often look something like TC>SS>TC>SS>TC>Revenge>TC and so on.

[deft hinge]

and SWave if u see the time for it

[warm plinth]

Shockwave isn't a damage spell. It's a CC.

[deft hinge]

it generates rage

[warm plinth]

What's your point? It's still not a rotational spell. It's a damage loss to use it that way. It does less than both revenge and TC. Revenge has a chance to reset SS, TC generates 5 rage anyway.

So why would I waste a global on Shockwave when I don't need to stun something

[deft hinge]

if u see the time for it i said, not use it by all means.

[warm plinth]

It's just confusing for someone who obviously didn't even know the basic rotation to have someone saying to use shockwave as part of their rotation when that's not how you use it. That's my point.

[deft hinge]

ur point is noted

[native mantle]

hey, why is ravager a required talent? is there an interaction im not seeing somewhere? rage gain?

[jade tartan]

how r you guys dealing with Deathspike in SBG?

isnt that more or less random when it triggers

[hardy snow]

spell reflect when boss have 3 stacks

unless she is going to middle or something

[jade tartan]

that reflects only 1 stack

i mean the only issue i am having is. it sometimes makes my HP bar spike up and down

dont really like it. its not that you die to it, yet (at the keystones i am playing)

[ionic fern]

Oo,ya, that hurts.

Literally one shot me from half HP.

It's Physical attack + Magical attack.

So you need to keep SB up and pair a CD+IP with it on higher keys.

[rose copper]

Hey guys I'm going to try to make the switch from DPS to Tank, since I've been maining warrior a while now it seems like the most logical choice to stick with it (+ it's apparently OP as F). I've been scrolling a bit and is it true that as Prot I can ditch rend, slam, whirlwind and hamstring from my bar?

[wise adder]

Yes, get rid of those you

You will never press them

[limpid anchor]

I also get oneshot sometimes when im at 5%

Whirlwind is 360

And bigger range then revenge I believe

[rose copper]

Thanks, any others? Or just those

[limpid anchor]

Also you still use hamstring

It’s just that there’s never a reason to actually use it

Same for the dps specs

[rose copper]

as dps I used it most in pvp or on on the 1st Nokhud boss add

[uneven ice]

Is hamstring useful for kiting?

[lime urchin]

I macroed hamsting into charge

it has its useful moments

[hardy snow]

that doesnt matter, when tanking you should be front to the mobs anyway

[rose copper]

Could you share the macro?

[limpid anchor]

You could use it on the skeletons in sbg if there are no other slows I guess

[limpid anchor]

/cast charge /cast hamstring

[lime urchin]

^

[limpid anchor]

[rose copper]

ty

Is it also generally done to macro last stand + shield wall since they share a 3 min timer?

[lime urchin]

NO

dont do that

[hardy snow]

no, definetely no

you should use CDs one after another (if needed), not on the same time

[lime urchin]

we will hunt you down if you macro defensives together

[rose copper]

Clear advice, cheers 🙂

[limpid anchor]

Wall has more like 1 min cd

Or 1 1/2

[random hare]

do we have any fire dmg in our kit for seal of diurnas chosen?

or just frostfire belt

[pallid quiver]

Base kit, absolutely zilch

[random hare]

meh ^^

[pallid quiver]

Have to get from trinkets/equipment/consumables

I'm not sure if the firecap thing still works or not

[random hare]

thought maybe thunder clap / thunderous roar, but seems to be phsyical dmg

[sick sentinel]

I just got 4pc last night. Do you play around it? As in dumping more rage in revenge than IP generally?

[warm plinth]

No, neither tier bonus affects rotation.

[sick sentinel]

well

when youre full bursting at around 200-300k dps

you can afford to press ip less

leech & set bonus+talent yields around 30 to 40k hps

other than that you still press alot of ip regardless

they need to take revenge off gcd tho

[silent anchor]

I disagree with this.

In your burst window with ravager your building so much rage you HAVE too spam IP to not overcap

The double spider pack in SBG I burst for 500k n I was pressing IP repeatedly while doing my rotation

[sick sentinel]

thats why i said you can afford to not lol

when youre full capping rage regardless it doesnt matter that much

[steep wraith]

It does

[hardy snow]

no, you cannot, whole rotation of prot warrior is about spending rage

[sick sentinel]

yea yea

[hardy snow]

IP is off GCD, so there is no point in not using it to dump excess of rage

[jade tartan]

the only reason you do it, is cuz of AM.

you dont need IP cuz you prolly are capped on the shield anyway

but you still press it so you get your cooldowns faster again

[silent anchor]

What are you even saying? Lol

The whole premise of prit is too use rage too bring avatar off cd?

You should never cap rage

[silent anchor]

Gotta be trolling lol

[crimson oracle]

GM everyone What should i upgrade first to 418 Elemtal lariat, Sword or Shield ?

[mental scarab]

Shield

[ruby geyser]

Still spam IP regardless 😋

[jade tartan]

why is shield so big?

[vestal rover]

does alltotem do more dmg in an m+ than decoration of flame? generally that is

[jade tartan]

think decoration of flame is another way to trigger the ring

[vestal rover]

don't have the ring so

[lofty widget]

Yes it does

[vestal rover]

as to yes dec triggers the ring or yes alltotem does more dmg?

[lofty widget]

All totem is very strong in m+

[vestal rover]

coolcool, thanks :)

[jade tartan]

but what is better

always using whetstone

totem, boon or decoration of flame?

[vestal rover]

currently running ruby whelp shell with alltotem then, no windscar yet 😔

[lofty widget]

Boon if you trust, otherwise totem

+whetstone

[flint grove]

I’m running grieftorch and whetstone atm

[vestal rover]

so what boss route yall taking in AA this week?

[eager phoenix]

Vexa -> Bird. if boys cant handle fissure + bomb overlap you might as well get the disapointment out of the way asap

[vestal rover]

I usually do vex-tree-bird when it's tyran

but idk if that's good or not lmao, just that I'd rather have lust on vex and bird

[rough egret]

Imho the tree is challenge,that if your group pass you can head to another challenge bird

[eager phoenix]

tree is free since the nerfs

[rough egret]

And then free vex

[vestal rover]

I feel the tree is easier than both vex and bird since nerfs yeah

vex and bird are both heavy dmg

[thin cedar]

Question… on a 20-21 temple, 3rd boss.. is it normal for dps to hold CDs for 70 percent?? Or do I run out of CDs on that boss cuz I’m bad and then die?😂

[rough egret]

Nwm then 😄

[rough egret]

Yes

[tidal ocean]

I even hold lust till 71%

[hardy snow]

our main source of damage mitigation is blocking attacks, and how much % we can block from single attack depends on stat called block value, which increase with shield's ilvl

[jade tartan]

i see but is the difference between

a 418 sield and 421 that huge?

[thin cedar]

You guys lust third boss on a key that high?

[jade tartan]

that you dont pick the weapon for example?

[sick sentinel]

overcap for that boss

[hardy snow]

I wouldnt call it big, but its still significant, but it depends on your particular case. If for example you have 415 shield and 398 weapon, then it would be probably better to craft 418 weapon.

[tidal ocean]

You don't need lust for sha at all

[sick sentinel]

make sure when you run out after the hit, you run out with full rage

[hardy snow]

But if ilvl gain on competing items is similar - then shield is better as it will give you more defensive power.

[tidal ocean]

On fort I would lust the last trash, tyrannicL third boss 71%

[sick sentinel]

being able to press 3* IP for the absorb and dot is game changer

100 rage after hit = victory rush + IP*3

ignore those who tell you never cap rage

[gilded epoch]

Ok folks... I play mainly pugs...
Do you think with quaking is worth pulling both mini bosses together in Hyrja?

PPL just meme quaking 😦

[hardy snow]

why would you need IP*3 after the hit?

[sick sentinel]

because of the dot

[cold pollen]

got 3 new asshole after second bos in 22 😦

ruby*

[thin cedar]

Bet thanks guys.. I always thought it was just me..

[eager phoenix]

Indom healing

[sick sentinel]

and indomitable healing

[agile stag]

Ruby 2nd is insane tank dmg

[cold pollen]

yeah healer couldnt heal me trhought SW and IV

[woeful trellis]

how do u run AV my least runned dungeon, any pogger routes?

[cold pollen]

!Tv12UTnmm0FPiF3VUnGTvm4wanShjwInvMxvTlIL76EPF7tKYswYDabbrshE4HxdiGVdYZddZt)aVTmopbDfNYkaz)SE(2dN1OXGFDsnZ4wnZFKUFC6k8HdygE1AkyaPbF1(DV(8YYy)B)851RGC(YVXEZILe7tRJdG8Xp)f8U77x(wFji)dIpcD1G8LZ6vKCv)6TB4K5HvTg6eNcxixVOXxq7L5G8z7ReNDIOV6Y4pccb9Pa6QGUY9FyO3Dqf0HITdnSD1SrTKo5WdKkvoQurM5G3gbVjcobUfPR39HjCC7UkNglzRfcwCIcVp2GNkHC0l2Dp1scZgvowRsuerjhS1H8clKYiguk1flVbgSjAIIwNSYCYsetsUJKQezqYBNK8O8VJIIyg2Yh1jYGcf29EmUQiJS5GVOqoGSGr6Q0(ASH1Eufwis9DlFuefsDI8aHMi6RtkcTCYsuZ1MDyLjeDknx2e6N2fvgFQksu7XNVxJLN)6ZcxkoyJJH6dPlxEi2tBLRTZnjjL02MYe7kH)x))wsQoaAR(MFmRxaVFEqK2F4A2ZcPYTPqU5pzgOl7uIS93MoUhM1l84oTHl7GB3)HaE3eMlT7uu8GIFulllj2Ry2QtuzwI6sXrETHVK6oQC9f(AXXHYGVClMil8DsbNLN4mX2Qpx0kY3xR47wooZMLohvYqnHTTFAD6kop52TxqR2XNOD)xa5cQTB0P)Wi0UBT72OYCVsTG8U(o)KI9LHrLASFvB(R1tnG8PHrspQBi(Rz9WDZJt4ar8f866OM8IL2W7UQLbG)9

i find that one easy

this week espcially

[woeful trellis]

this week no affixes so ezpz

[agile stag]

Yeah av is easy this week with skips

[crimson oracle]

You Train whelp St or AoE ?

[agile stag]

@woeful trellis let me check if i van make route with phone. It usually has 3min left when last boss dies if no pepeg wipe

[crimson oracle]

ST or AoE ?

[woeful trellis]

no prob, i like the route from terkal

[gilded epoch]

Do you have a good place where ppl share routes btw?

[woeful trellis]

what do u mean "good place" there is no better place then skyhold

[gilded epoch]

Haha true that 🙂

[woeful trellis]

😄 no idk i just watch streams and ask here

[vestal rover]

haste

[crimson oracle]

Mmhmm i already have 28% without you still would go Hast e ?

[uneven ice]

Never enough haste

MOAR HASTE

[hardy snow]

more haste is better then less haste

[uneven ice]

Haste and crit

Go go

[amber siren]

haste capping isn't a concern till 40% unbuffed and you probably aren't going to reach that point

[vestal rover]

no clue, I started playing prot warr a week ago :P

[uneven ice]

40% un buffed is nuts haste right now

BUT: whelp is better in ST, sims says.

[uneven ice]

I don’t have ANY run in AV xd

I’m so scared of that dungeon

[cold pollen]

take the route i just link its pretty fail proof

[sick sentinel]

Got mine trained for aoe. Pretty underwhelming tbh

[oak junco]

i've got the following in my vault:

i currently have a 415 shield from eranog and 402 pants from HC - legs would be a big ilvl upgrade and give more raw stats, but i find it difficult to quantify the value of a shield beyond knowing they're our single most important piece of gear. does anyoen have a rough indication on how i ought to value shields comapred to other pieces?

[cold pollen]

to me the pant wins but i am just with a 412 shield ^^

[amber siren]

The aoe training is pretty lackluster is general

Not that the trinket is great

Sim bait

[rough egret]

Shield

And you can not open vault again in prot

Unless you raid and kill broodkeeper on mythic

[uneven ice]

Guys, you go Sophic devotion or frozen enchant for M+?

[rough egret]

Im sophic, you can sim it

Can frozen devotion crit?

Maybe with higher crit it can outsim it

Idk

[tender quartz]

FBV or BV if I wanna go safer for higher Tyra like Jade / Ruby?

[rough egret]

Imo BV,

1 target heal from bleed will be meh

[hybrid fossil]

what saftey component do you guys recommond for the battle-rezz wrists?

[hardy snow]

Yes, it can

[tender quartz]

Yea fair enough

[uneven ice]

BV for sure. I tried FVB and the heal is negligible

*on boss

[uneven ice]

Interesting

[rough egret]

Im runing sim again 😄 as i have 31 crit things may change 😄

On ST frozen devotion wins for me

[uneven ice]

and 5T?

[rough egret]

Waiting

😄

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2kRvZ5pvA8teF9Xa6AQVQJ

Lower

[uneven ice]

Ok. Sophic then

[lilac jay]

I would take pants and craft 418 shield

[pale rock]

Which 20 ive i prot needs that many would i put in my Bars?

[woeful trellis]

wat

[pale rock]

Im to clumsy to be consistent with more than 20 keybinds

[limpid anchor]

Get more fingers:>

[woeful trellis]

uh ihave like 35 cant imagine clicking, with opie binds even more

[somber stump]

ruby whelp shell is decent for prot right? i guess we train it in haste?

[woeful trellis]

St > all

[somber stump]

alrighty, thanks^^

[craggy kelp]

so yestrday,i went and made mythic item into tier item,but id didnt wanna work bcz of weakaura,so it told me do you want to disable Wa,i said yes,now ir einstalled and all,and i still cant see weak aura

[limpid anchor]

Did you enable the addon

[craggy kelp]

how

nvm

tyvm

[rough egret]

How could WA block that?

[limpid anchor]

Bcs if you have some shitty wa

That interacts in any way with it

It throws up

[craggy kelp]

i have like

tons of addons in my curseforge

bcz no1 even told me the essential ones i need so i just dl alot xD

[limpid anchor]

You need to decide that for your self

Don’t just randomly download addons

Think of what you like and get those

[craggy kelp]

its hard

bcz if ur new to wow

u need alot

and u dont know what is good and whats bad

[limpid anchor]

Especially if you are new, you don’t need any addons

If you just play and notice „huh, a change or improvement on that part would be nice“, you start looking into a specific addon that does what you want

[polar cypress]

I honestly don't think you neeed a lot @craggy kelp . If you are doing a basic UI that allows you to do anything...
Plater, Weakauras, DMB/Bigwigs, and if you are a nutcase like me Bartender

A good plater profile takes care of all targetting needs

[rough egret]

Thats not that much 😄

[lusty tiger]

Lololol

[polar cypress]

Weakauras allow you to track your own CDS and buffs.

[rough egret]

Delete pawn

[polar cypress]

yeah was gonna say that.

[craggy kelp]

deleted

[rough egret]

Rest is okay

[craggy kelp]

is there a way

that u can see who has the threat/whos mob targeting?

[polar cypress]

Plater.

[craggy kelp]

not the color way,but like us ee the actual name

i got plater

only colors

[rough egret]

Target of target

[polar cypress]

I would do a different question. Why do you want to know who has aggro, instead of if you don't have aggro.

I use VuhDo for that tbh

[heady jetty]

Anyone got a link to some useful tank guide videos? starting to push 20 keys and feel like i could benefit from watching a few pros

[rough egret]

😄

[craggy kelp]

so i can see if the target isnt targeting me

[polar cypress]

but that's because I don't use the regular blizzard party or raid frames

[polar cypress]

look into Lepan

[rough egret]

Naowh, Tactycs

[lusty tiger]

A good plater profile will show the name of the target if it’s casting on someone or fixated

[heady jetty]

Thanks

[rough egret]

They both do walktrough

Like explaining their run

Tactycs was bear main but he plays warr this season

[lime urchin]

Quazii also makes very nice dungeon guides for tanks

[solid granite]

When you're about to get a 99 percentile parse on Terros M, and than wipe at 5%.. so sad

[sick sentinel]

i have wiped so many times to odyn at 81%

[pale rock]

my hands are below average small on top of being clmsy

[sick sentinel]

during some key

[solid granite]

Can relate. I have comically tiny hands

[sick sentinel]

Hey, Brutal vitality or fueled by violence with 4pc?

[crystal mauve]

The ignore pain one

[sick sentinel]

Thanks

[deft mortar]

Brutal Vitality without question

I doubt 0.85 times your Deep Wounds damage is more than 10% of your overall dmg output

What's funny is that your Deep Wounds dmg also feeds Brutal Vitality kekw

There is probably no scenario where FbV does better

Eh maybe without 4 piece BV doesnt work as well since you have to manually IP

[sick sentinel]

literal gorilla hands here

[deft mortar]

hows this for dungeon slice sim

[sick sentinel]

im the wrong guy to talk to about sims and raiding

i don't really believe in either of those a whole lot, raiding i COULD get into possibly, but its just far too social

[subtle sparrow]

How is raiding social? You apply to a pug, pull boss, get loot or wipe

[sick sentinel]

i am WQ and low key up to ksm 2000io 3 times in a row now, loot cap andy

[limpid anchor]

I don’t believe in math either

Everyone who uses sims are heretics

[subtle sparrow]

Question on blacksmithing, for crafting armor and shields, you only get more skill from Armorsmithing → Sub spec → speciality spec and hammer control?

[sick sentinel]

Why the fuck would i need to simulate real life events that happen in the game is my thinking

[deft mortar]

That's my understanding Bjoolz

[pale rock]

if i only use 2 bars what mandatory im missing or is there stuff i can remove?

[sick sentinel]

i can spend all this time making pretend and make believe for a +15 key..... or.... i can just gigachad get my self invited, get summoned, not open dungeon journal, hold w, attack it till it dies, praise and GG and loots

[subtle sparrow]

Demo shout

[limpid anchor]

Trinket

Health pot and stone

[subtle sparrow]

You macro trinket into your damage cd. At least I do

[pale rock]

Demo shout i macrod 2 avatar and its on a seperate bar

[limpid anchor]

Whirlwind

[ionic fern]

[pale rock]

Trinkets i will just macro

[limpid anchor]

Possible key for spell block

[sick sentinel]

i put Taunt on "T" and it has been STONKS for me ever since i came up with that one mid bfa

[ionic fern]

Storm Bolt
Spell Block
Intimidating Shout

[sick sentinel]

r for , and this ones a bit more silly but follow, Ranged (instant also) attack

so, heroic throw in this case but something exact same idea on mage/sham/rogue

[subtle sparrow]

mwd and mwu :(

With my busted mouse it randomly scrolls both directions.

[sick sentinel]

H button for IV "HEAL" buton

[subtle sparrow]

But I paid for $140 for this mouse so it will be kept for as long as possible

[pale rock]

to far away for my small hands

[hardy snow]

and whats the button for ShieldSlam? 🤔

[subtle sparrow]

Mousewheel Up

[pale rock]

i cant find keyboards that have a tigher key spacing and have customisable key sensitivity

[violet spruce]

I place demo shout on a cast sequence macro

[sick sentinel]

everything has been specifically and intently placed where it is

[pale rock]

I have it macrod to avatar

[hardy snow]

why heroic leap on V then?

[violet spruce]

I’m sure it’ll get desyched though right?

[grizzled kite]

not using leap on scroll wheel

[sick sentinel]

top row is no damage, bottom row is big damage, middle row is like CC, left verticle bar is for more used niche shit and mounts, right side for never used or profession stuff

[grizzled kite]

[subtle sparrow]

You guys will love this bind

[grizzled kite]

[sick sentinel]

"Vehicle, or, Vrooom" (bounding), or its also chevron shapend and pointed at ground

thats even if i try to apply logic to why its there, stretching is what im saying

[whole vortex]

Keybinds up to 7, how long are your fingers?

[sick sentinel]

its my mouse hand thats fucked TBH

[whole vortex]

I stop at 5, shift5 is the worst button to hit on my bars

[subtle sparrow]

Need pedals soon

[sick sentinel]

my LMB RMB fingers are shot

i know i said bottom is big damage, and i have charge, and well, i basically need to be in melee always, rage gain, yeah, charge stays on 4

[grizzled kite]

My shield/charge is on 4 too yeah

[paper kayak]

How do we as prot. trigger the Diurna ring?

[bold turret]

frostfire belt / hoof trinket I think

[sick sentinel]

there are many ways if you are creative, or have trinkets

[grizzled kite]

frostfire belt yes

[sick sentinel]

decoration of flame first boss

[uneven ice]

Which is the difference between cast sequence and cast?

[sick sentinel]

hits for 2 times fire dmg

[paper kayak]

I'll craft this belt first then

thanks guys!

[plush tendon]

frostfire is the same DPS gain as other embellishments to

the rings just make it giga awesome

[grizzled kite]

cast sequence can work smoother with no gcd spells and you can reset rotation based on modifiers like target change, combat, seconds (timer based)

[heady wedge]

Hello, is there a way to put a specific timer for a fight on raidbot ?
like !set_fighttimer: 210 or something like that i don't know x)

[finite scarab]

i respect that u can reach 7 Y H B that shit to far out of the way for me

[reef holly]

Hey guys- I have a 402 crafted shield, I finally have a concentrated primal infusion to recraft this, do I need to find a shield specialist BS in order to recraft my shield to highest ilevel? Just talked to a BS and he said it would probably be 405 ilevel if he did it, so I declined

Don’t quite understand the crafting stuff tbh

[cold pollen]

quick question on intervene fenryr : when i press intervene when he focuses a dd, intervene don't go, i have to target his target first

i remeber it used to auto dash on your target taret

did it change?

[warm plinth]

Uh, that's impossible lol.

[zenith sky]

Most blacksmiths that can craft the primal molten defender will be able to do it guaranteed at ilvl 415

[warm plinth]

Intervene never did that naturally. I'm assuming you had a macro for it.

[cold pollen]

really

[zenith sky]

It is possible that they need an inspiration proc for 418, which means that they have to rcraft a couple of times (costs some mettle and some alloys).

[cold pollen]

anywhere i can find the macro ?

[zenith sky]

Specialised BS will be able to either guarantee 418 by using more mettle (expensive) or will be able to re-craft with R2 alloys until 418 (cheap).

If they need to 'proc' it, you can't specify q5 (418) directly in the order. But by now there should be plenty people that can do it with procs.

[warm plinth]

#showtooltip /cast [@targettarget]Intervene

[cold pollen]

Noice ! thanks ❤️

[pale rock]

How often do i need whirlwind?

[fallen pulsar]

0 times

[zenith sky]

It also sounds like a misunderstanding, because 408 is q1 with the concentrated infusion - and that's likely not even possible when re-crafting because the skill will be high enough to get a higher wuality than that if they have unlocked shields.

[warm plinth]

Like my guess is that you found the guy who just started blacksmithing or something lol

[pale rock]

Would be good ive macro Demo shout so that i save a keybind?lity

[warm plinth]

Macroing abilities together is basically never a good idea

[pale rock]

For my clumsy hands every keybind more matters

[sick sentinel]

im never clumsy if i understand exactly whats to be done, and nothing has gone wrong yet

[pale rock]

im trying modfier keys with shift mapped to my mouse

[sick sentinel]

like, its whenever some dude on my team gets aggro, and or im not on the right guy who only ranges, or not doing the correct kicks

[pale rock]

but 20 to 24 keys is my limit

[warm plinth]

20-24 should be more than enough with mods

[pale rock]

now i have train my muscle memory

Yes im not used to modifier keys

[sick sentinel]

how come dragonscale expidition and marruuk centaur is 25 reknown each, and then, tuskarr and valdrakken is 30

except for tuskarr, im really well caught up on my reps

[heady wedge]

renown max 25 for maruk and dragonscale, renown max 30 for tuskarr and valdrakken maybe ?

(supposition)

[fallen pulsar]

Idk the renown caps seem arbitrary. Valdrakken being 30 I kinda get since we have so many sources for it. But tuskarr feels random

[heady wedge]

yeah i hate this faction, and I hate fishing

[plush tendon]

Tuskarr are the worst

thats why

[cinder storm]

Tuskarr and Tortollan name a more iconic duo

[fallen pulsar]

For me fastest way to train new buttons into muscle is to go to a target dummy and every time I mess up put 1g in the guild bank

Kinda like a swear jar but with warrior rage

[heady wedge]

good iu is very important for that also

[pale rock]

Is will of the Forsaken wroth a keybind?

[fallen pulsar]

I forget what it does

[high drum]

not really

[fallen pulsar]

Cleanse fear?

[high drum]

and charm and sleep

[heady wedge]

I consider myself lucky, I lack self-discipline a lot for some things, but fortunatly I can get mecanics super fast on wow. I'm a slow learner usually, I need to repeat the same mistake 10 times to get it right

[pale rock]

Removes,Char, Fear and Sleep

[warm plinth]

I mean, we don't run Berserker Rage much and there are fears in the game

[fallen pulsar]

Marginally useful and rare to need

There are sleeps and charms in m+ but doubtful you’ll need it

[pale rock]

I recently race changed to Ud since helemets dont go well with highmountain tauren

[fallen pulsar]

Fear is also rare but in m+ iirc tjs

So like, it’s very niche but could be helpful if an interrupt is missed on very specific mobs

[dense coral]

Helmets just wear Sunglasses xD

[pale rock]

Thats how my warrior looks like

[fallen pulsar]

Will of the forsaken is much more useful in pvp

[pale rock]

I never really was into PvP to sweaty for my taste, i get sweaty in the gym aside from that nope

[reef holly]

Cool thanks I’ll keep looking for someone

[dusky canopy]

Most BS will want to do min quality 4 with rank 2 mats and keep recrafting it until they proc 418

Works out good for them and for you

[sick sentinel]

an undead warrior who thinks hes a paladin... hah

all this gold stuff going on

[strong forum]

its one of the most iconic warrior tiersets

that aint a paladin

[dusky canopy]

That mog** set is badass

[sick sentinel]

im not sold on undead warrior unless its zombie transmog

or butler

[toxic gyro]

Not sure how this mog resembles palladin at all

[pale rock]

Wotlk and Bc have alot of good trasmog stuff in my opininon. The newer Tiersets look meh for the most port

[modern brook]

Smh this guy's warrior is named rickandmorty

[dusky canopy]

LUL

[sick sentinel]

bunch of yellow and gold, like holy and the light

[toxic gyro]

Clean mog, on of my favorite shield and sword too

[strong forum]

boots dont fit

[dusky canopy]

Best shield is illidan shield

[modern brook]

Sometimes yellow is just a color yogi

[dusky canopy]

Change my mind

[pale rock]

I still need the right boots to drop

[finite scarab]

what do people think of the mace from trading post for mog trying to find somthing to go with it

[warm plinth]

Bulwark is the basic bitch of shield mogs

[strong forum]

thats how i use it

[dusky canopy]

I use mine with mage tower set

[toxic gyro]

I don’t like flails personally

[strong forum]

you can try sabellion shoulders and go from there

[sick sentinel]

how is my transmog wrongg and bad

[strong forum]

youre a tauren

[toxic gyro]

Looks pretty good but still

[strong forum]

everything is wrong and bad on tauren

[sick sentinel]

i mean well, extra stamina and aoe stun for mythic + that i run every day

[pale rock]

Transmog is the real endgame

[strong forum]

this

[dusky canopy]

Zandalari here I want to be dwarf so bad but all the homies are horde

[finite scarab]

what shield are u using that was probs the hardest thing cant find anything nice to go with it

[strong forum]

its the mythic ghuun shield

but gl getting that nowadays

[sick sentinel]

the way they are handling recolouring of armor like for on the dragons is good

[kindred prairie]

hello, in game guide doesnt say it: is damage from searing blows on 2nd RLP boss also physical? or just the bleed?

[strong forum]

bleed

which is physical

[dusky canopy]

At least on NA side people run that fairly often

[strong forum]

people actually do mythic uldir?

[sick sentinel]

i mean that the colors are set, and you can only choose this color combination or another color combination

[dusky canopy]

Ye in custom tmog lfg

[kindred prairie]

what damage type are searing blows then?

[strong forum]

physical.

[dusky canopy]

I do bfa runs every week for mog and mounts

[strong forum]

you need like 16 people for mythic ghuun

im impressed people do that

[high drum]

same but dragonflight

[dusky canopy]

Sorta nom biggest issue is dunking

Rest of the raid is pretty blow up

[strong forum]

hence the 16 ye

[high drum]

is there an easier way to xmog legion artifacts ot just weapon

than going fury

and doing it

[dusky canopy]

Still after Gmod

[high drum]

then going back

[dusky canopy]

[strong forum]

no easy way to get legion artifacts

[high drum]

no i mean

xmog the sword without shield

[strong forum]

yes?

lol

[high drum]

it doesnt work if youre prot, it always changes shield too

[strong forum]

just go to swords

and not artifact weapon

[high drum]

it wont woooooork

[strong forum]

it does...

youre in the wrong category.

go to weapon

go to swords

scroll until you find the weapon

[high drum]

no even from sword it doesnt work for me unless i go furry

[strong forum]

yes it does.

[dusky canopy]

Are you trying to tmog a 2h lul

[sick sentinel]

what if like EOD completing a +15 or above, you get a bonus chest which 95% XYZ gold, 5% drakeskins/weapon transmogs 0.5%-2% mounts.

[strong forum]

you cant tmog 2handers onto 1handers

lmao

[sick sentinel]

if you complete the dungeon on time that is

[strong forum]

the only class that can do that is fury and holy paladin

[dusky canopy]

Wait wait wait

[strong forum]

and only specifically with their artifact appearance

[dusky canopy]

Holy can tmog a 2h???

[strong forum]

only their artifact appearance

but yes

[dusky canopy]

No shit that’s Coolio

[strong forum]

they can tmog their 2h hammer + shield

or just 2h hammer

over their 1h weapon

[sick sentinel]

can't hpal technically use a 2h int mace instead of shield 1h?

[strong forum]

yeah but thats dumb af

[dusky canopy]

They want shield

Extra living

[strong forum]

and there arent any 2h intellect maces

[sick sentinel]

true, its more for druiid shaman monk

[dusky canopy]

So sadge

1 minute off 3 chest sbg 20

Then depleted on last boss

[strong forum]

LOL

[dusky canopy]

[sick sentinel]

there is 100% 2h int maces, at least from WQ stuff?

[dusky canopy]

Bro DH doing DH things into the death wall

[sick sentinel]

i got 2 or 3 epic quality ones

[strong forum]

there is 1 singular 2h mace with Int

[dusky canopy]

FFFF

[strong forum]

and its garbage ilvl

[sick sentinel]

well, then it dropped twice for me

[strong forum]

sure, rares can drop it every day

but its capped at 385 so

literally unusable

[dusky canopy]

Who needs ilvl

Weren’t we talking about a brewmaster monk doing a 20 with no gear the other day

[stable valve]

Give holy Templar’s verdict?

Ezpz

[sick sentinel]

come back with 5 prot warriors run a 20 with nothing but 4pc set and shield weapon maybe trinkets

[dusky canopy]

You see the unconfirmed data mined skills for ret

[sick sentinel]

then im impressed

[dusky canopy]

25 yard range on blade of justice and templars verdict

LUL

[last nova]

i'm thinking about recrafting all my vers for crit so i can go arms OS, is this a good idea?

[dusky canopy]

Crit/haste gamer

[stable valve]

Crit/haste is good for prot too

[last nova]

lol chad

[stable valve]

So perfectly fine to do that

[dusky canopy]

I’m not BSing

I think im at 6% Vers

[last nova]

but like i'm abit afraid about losing the damage % taken

[dusky canopy]

You don’t need Vers as much as you think

[last nova]

maybe that's the case

[stable valve]

Negligible. Just play better. 10% vers is like 5% DR

[dusky canopy]

Top 10 all have lowish Vers

They’re doing 25s

[stable valve]

Crit isn’t JUST dmg either, also gives you parry

[dusky canopy]

You’ll be fine I imagine

[strong forum]

andy has 10% vers and killed 25 tyrannical crawth just fine

without any bullshit turtle talents

[dusky canopy]

Crit/haste gang

[stable valve]

But like haste + strength + skill
Ezpz

[dusky canopy]

SS owns

[last nova]

well i'm abit bored just playing prot all the time, I heard crit haste was pog

[limpid anchor]

Mastery/vers <3

[dusky canopy]

Big Crit SS OWNS

[last nova]

did they buff SS alot? it lasts like 21 seconds now with buff

[strong forum]

no

[dusky canopy]

Shield slam

[strong forum]

heavy repercussions does that for you

[last nova]

it used to be like next 5 attacks

[strong forum]

huh??

[last nova]

sweeping strikes

[dusky canopy]

Bruh

[strong forum]

oh arms.

[stable valve]

ROFL

[last nova]

yah

[strong forum]

sweeping strikes has been like that for almost 10 years

my guy

[dusky canopy]

PROT chads in here

[strong forum]

if not longer

[dusky canopy]

[last nova]

not shield slam lol sorry

[stable valve]

Can’t come in here saying SS in the prot channel

[last nova]

wrong channel

[strong forum]

in legion it was entirely passive

it was just active all the time

[stable valve]

SS only shield slam

[dusky canopy]

No shit passive sweeping strikes

[stable valve]

Also, nom when do WE get sweeping strikes?

[dusky canopy]

That’s op

[strong forum]

bro i wish wed get sweeping strikes

remove rend

gimme sweeping strikes

[last nova]

I want the 2h req removed from mortal strikes

[sick sentinel]

if i can locate it

[last nova]

so we can Arms tank

[stable valve]

100000%

[dusky canopy]

Sweeping strikes Big Crit SS

[sick sentinel]

would you guys want to view my sbg 15 2 chest log

[stable valve]

I would deffo take sweeping strikes over rend

[wintry nymph]

Would you take the advice tho?

[dusky canopy]

But passive sweeping strikes like legion

Make it to good you know

[sick sentinel]

if this is something you all are interested in let me know guys

[wintry nymph]

Experience tells me that you don't do anything with any feedback u get :)

Otherwise im sure there are plenty of people in here who wanna help

[uncut junco]

give prot bladestorm

[stable valve]

Ew

[dusky canopy]

If blocked hits are over 90% you’re playing pretty good

[sick sentinel]

well i checked a recent log or details, i think it was for 13 NO, and i have had uh, 87 or 89% SB up time

[hardy snow]

I cant wait to see that

[dusky canopy]

Uptime isn’t that big of a deal

[sick sentinel]

which isn't great, exactly, but its not 70%

[dusky canopy]

Actual blocked hits

Is what matters

[sick sentinel]

i probably even have video of it too

not 100% sure

[frozen rose]

for raz H, when yall hit your second pots typically?

[dusky canopy]

Also top damage will be SS and TC

[dusky canopy]

2nd lust

[viscid plaza]

yup there's a lot of times your uptime is silly to have, like when the boss is channeling, so uptime is ultimately not the metric to worry about

[sick sentinel]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-1/15604708-15-shadowmoon-burial-grounds

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