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tropic tangle
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Was also my key though, so I was bricking my own.

viscid plaza
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On my own keys I generally 3 pull rule. If things are falling to shit in three pulls I offer to burn the key and lower it since it's clear we're not getting things done.

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on others I try to grin and bear it and make the best of a bad situation

deft mortar
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i try to kill the patrolling sentinel b4 hyrja ngl

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cant be bothered with it

dusky canopy
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If the key feels completable I’m down but if it’s feeling like it’s going to be 90 minutes I’m just bouncing

deft mortar
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ye

modest gulch
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Is there a method of pulling trash at the beginning of Nokhud before killing the rock dragon, to keep dps alive better? Positioning or something? Anything?

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the little aoe's all over the ground seem to just kill them

dusky canopy
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Dps die because of rangers

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Well

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Usually

errant brook
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Focus the Archers.

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Mark 'em.

tropic tangle
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yeah, the archers just pump

modest gulch
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ok, I'll try that

errant brook
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Of course, in nearly every pug, Skull is the last to die so....

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Your mileage may vary.

stoic pilot
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Stop warspear charges and your group will stop dying as much too

dusky canopy
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Rotate your own ccs to stop archers multi shots or the volley thing they do

round pendant
dusky canopy
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That helps the pulls significantly

astral olive
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Any1 running seal+frostfire belt?

dusky canopy
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Yer

astral olive
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Worth over fangs?

tropic tangle
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frostfire itself is probably equal to fang

vital oak
toxic pewter
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servers up NA

vital oak
tropic tangle
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does ~1% damage on keys, heroic fire dmg ring ends up roughly another 1%

viscid plaza
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damn they're still showing down on the site

modest gulch
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probably archers like everyone was saying

dusky canopy
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On like a 20 fortified those archers are owning your group if no cc

modest gulch
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18's are where I'm at atm

errant brook
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Still liquid cancer.

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DPS tunneling aoe shizz while getting /fwipped to death from the shadows.

modest gulch
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does anyone know if its possible to convert a crafted item at the creation catalyst? Like a 418 tier shoulder piece, for example.

vital oak
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don't need to cc, the archers put a swirly on the floor, they just need to move out of it. I know, a tall ask.

vital oak
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no crafted equip in the catalyst.

dark lark
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Crafted items can't be catalyzed

modest gulch
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still have 398 normal tier shoulders and 402 tier pants, shit won't drop

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servers are up btw

errant brook
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Don't try to go to Stormwind.

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Yet.

oak echo
vital oak
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I thought you were supposed to aim frontals at your dps/heals to help them learn situational awareness.

sullen flame
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I play ranged when I'm not tanking and let me just say those archers aren't shit. The real problem is that charge bleed, in the packs with 2 of them I just get deleted sometimes.

tender quartz
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Sorry to bother dunno where to ask, is there a WA to show Personals / Defensives and Healthpots / Stones on the raidframe?

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Does anyone happen to have one

dusky canopy
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Omnicd

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Addon

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Does what you ask and is very customizable

tender quartz
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I can show that on raidframes? Sweet I'll have a look

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Only set it up for dungeons

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Cheers!

dusky canopy
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Yes works in raid as well!

rough egret
tender quartz
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As in?

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If it seems to high for you if that's what you mean you picked 5 bosses

rough egret
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i mean the trinket i got from HOV is simming higher than shell

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in aoe situation

undone verge
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Shell is alright but it’s not our bis

mighty valley
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probably? shell seems mediocre

amber siren
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str and crit stat stick, seems normal to me

loud wyvern
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Can anyone confirm if Broodkeeper Diurna's Mortal Stoneclaws magic hit, or the Crushing Stoneclaws DoT afterward is reflectable or deflectable with Spell Reflect? Or just the 20% magic damage reduction?

undone verge
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Also doesn’t it depend on how you train it? Like if it’s ST then the halls trink stats would be better

rough egret
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on ST is shell stronger

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yeah i have it on rank 6 fire shot

undone verge
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Also mortal stone claws does both magic and physy the amount for each depends on difficulty you can check in adventure guide. I believe it’s more physical on heroic and more magic on mythic

amber siren
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It's a phys/magic hit, 20% dr with SR or blockable with spell block

undone verge
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Really spell block blocks it? That’s crazy

deft mortar
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gosh why are the stupid mountains in thaldarsuz so damn tall

crude notch
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Because mountains are tall

lavish oracle
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Which orbs should you let hit vexamus to avoid bad overlaps in AA? I know you let one in late between 2nd and 3rd set

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But that seemed like it created another overlap later in the fight

turbid shuttle
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the real killer on those packs is the warspear charging out

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also the beast master making the owl fixate kills people sometimes

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I find normally the hornsounder does rally + beastmaster does fixate at the same time (ish), and I shockwave to stun both same time

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other than that, focusing dps on the warspears helps, as does using stormbolt/shield charge on them to try to minimize charges

fathom robin
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Does anybody have a list of "difficulty" for M+ with this week's affixes? Or where this list exists? I've tried to find it but have been unsuccessful.

sand mason
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goated tier lists

fathom robin
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Okay perfect, thanks

inland mesa
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fire flail bis

deft mortar
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need 5% more for revival catalyst

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did a WQ it didnt budge

edgy spear
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Grand Hunt gives 10%

inland mesa
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WQ don't work, queue and lose a bg is how I did it when stuck at 95

hybrid fossil
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Is it worthy to pick bloodborne if you have 4p bonus to increase passive IP-gain? does this make any sens to skil such things - same as barbaric training - if u only do m+ around key level 23-24 ?! or is this just stupid? 😄

deft mortar
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sadge

daring marlin
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I just did world boss on my alts

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15 mins to complete the quest ezpz

deft mortar
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wait is the % accountwide too?

edgy spear
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Yes

daring marlin
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yup

deft mortar
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kekw

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just want the 4th set piece b4 I run another dung

daring marlin
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You just don't have the quest on the alts

mighty valley
deft mortar
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tbf I need a beer b4 i run another dung tday

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legit almost got hit by heimdall drake that deranged rn

hybrid fossil
bold olive
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mighty valley
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tough as nails is usually more damage than a point in bloodborne realistically

hybrid fossil
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hm ok, i played a few instances and thought that the damage of bleeds just hits a massive level with this talents

mighty valley
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and dropping punish especially on a tyrannical week sounds kinda silly

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barbaric also plays pretty bad unless your rage gen is absolutely through the roof with huge pulls all the time

deft mortar
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can u stack 2x armor spikes

median tulip
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Bloodbourne should be a single-point talent for the same effect as the current 2 pointer. It should also swap places with Bolster and have a direct link to it from Bloodsurge.

tepid raptor
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what do u guys sim for?

deft mortar
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Dungeon Slice

lilac minnow
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For m+ what combination of trinkets would you guys use All-Totem, Hoof or the Decoration?

hybrid fossil
lilac minnow
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assuming equal levels on all three

median tulip
tropic gorge
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rlp is a pug crusher. 😦

daring marlin
deft mortar
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bruh sim doesnt take into consideration armor spikes

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i think

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or tough as nails

median tulip
# hybrid fossil that would be nice

One of the things that annoys me about our spec tree is that it's almost impossible to really specialise, because the talents for any one possible thing are spread so widely. Like how you can't really go fully for Execute because Sudden Death, Massacre and Juggernaut are in 3 completely different columns.

spice orbit
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Hey guys. Is there a version of the world marker makro that does not require a click but just places the marker wherever the cursor is right now?

spice orbit
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I only ever had the one where you need to click. Quazii has a video that shows him seemingly not needing to click but when I tried it, it's pretty much the same I've been running forever

mighty valley
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replace 1 with all the other numbers for other world markers

spice orbit
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is there a rotating version? :<

mighty valley
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what does rotating mean

spice orbit
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so it automatically rotates to the next symbol.

mighty valley
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does your current macro do that?

spice orbit
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yep

mighty valley
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then just add the [@stoic erminesor] targeting into it

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oh sorry whoever Cur is

sick sentinel
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its over, for now

lusty tiger
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2 mounts?

spice orbit
sick sentinel
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i dunno where that one come frome

final gust
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Came from "mount parade"

sick sentinel
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oh yeah, that would make sense

pale rock
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I wonder if race changing to Undead from High Mountain Tauren was a good choice?

sick sentinel
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fucking, STONKS if you are mining

errant brook
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Moose is ALWAYS the correct choice.

spice orbit
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do you hate the free dash button? The aoe stun?

mighty valley
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hmm, not really sure I see the value in the rotating WM macro - how do you adjust specific markers once they're down?

spice orbit
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you dont

mighty valley
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i just have a hidden bar with all eight bound to F1-F8

pale rock
spice orbit
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i like putting them down for the endboss in SBG to show people which way the line will be aligned. And overall it's really nice to be able to quickly paint a trail sometimes

tropic tangle
flat jackal
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is rumbling ruby better than decoration of flame in keys?

pale rock
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Prot warrior is my training wheel learn tanking the first spec i tried was BDK but that one is to complicated for novice to tanking like me

sick sentinel
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its really not though

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keep up boneshield, keep up plague, hit deathstrike some times to heal

deft mortar
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warr superior in every aspect

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they dont even have a shield

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hardly a tank

sick sentinel
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the thing is....

weary python
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Wait until cloth tank is added next xpac

sick sentinel
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they have magic, but i dont really know if its magic

toxic pewter
craggy pilot
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on normal Broodkeeper, is it possible to do more than 2 eggs at a time?

pale rock
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And i had macro a bunch of stuff on DK im basically fucked if a spec needs more than 18 to 20 keys to play

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one shieldless tank i want to try would be dh

spiral lintel
rancid ember
craggy pilot
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so wondering if theres a different route, where you do eggs faster

rancid ember
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Assign 2 people to always pop the timer eggs and just have a warlock/hunter or someone pop a 3rd egg.
Keep in mind you might have to re-learn what eggs to pop and when. You don't want to end up with your last 2 eggs on opposite sides of the room but the add it spawns is managable anyways so 🤷

craggy pilot
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ye thats what im thinking

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and you wanna do a similar route to avoid the add spawns

rancid ember
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yup exactly

pale rock
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the issue that i i currently have that groups dont adjust to my pace and pull stuff before, is that diffcult for people to adjust to slower pace not everyone likes to be rushed

craggy pilot
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something like this maybe 🤔

lusty tiger
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your party should not be able to keep up w you

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until then u will feel growing pains

pale rock
lusty tiger
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they wont- and if you were more experienced, you wouldnt want to be waiting for your healer or dps

tropic tangle
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you're the pace setter to make sure the timer is beat

lusty tiger
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theres also no reason to ever stop and wait

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u have heroic leap and charge

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whatr u even waiting for

pale rock
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i play games to relax so i hate rushing with a passion and no im not even tanking m plus

lusty tiger
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that is the standard for non-raid tanking though

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there was torghast last xpac

tropic tangle
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yeah I mean, you might want to think hard about whether you want to tank dungeons

lusty tiger
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that was decent

wet dust
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If you don’t wanna keep the dungeon flowing and pulling id probably stray away from tanking, you’ll upset people either way

hybrid aurora
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you have to eat before everypull

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and rebuff just in case

lusty tiger
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lol

hybrid aurora
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make sure you 10s timer before every boss too in M+

lusty tiger
tulip kelp
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Do I really get 13% haste from ITF?

hybrid aurora
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Not gonna lie, ive actually had tanks that timer before every boss in M+

tulip kelp
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I go from 34% without talent to 47% with it

pale rock
lusty tiger
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right in front of u

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until u deem it uneccessary

hybrid aurora
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I would do some low keys to learn the routing, then on your actual pushes you'll be good

lusty tiger
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waiting to pull the right pack in non m+ is troll

tropic gorge
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double pulls are normal pulls, non double pulls are boring and will usually anger your group dps

lusty tiger
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just keep hitting stuff

toxic pewter
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does anyone know if the traders tender goes away at the end of the month... it doesnt right? We can carry balances over to the next month right?

hybrid aurora
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it carries over

sick sentinel
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ITF? whats that acronym for lol

toxic pewter
lusty tiger
orchid frigate
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anyone else been having issues with crawth and the visuals of the fire puddles?

pale rock
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I had groups randomly pulling stuff i prefer when im the only one that pulls and the DPS waits till i do, should i let them die if they are not behaving?

orchid frigate
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just got killed by one that was invisible 😦

lusty tiger
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if they die not following u thats their fault

wet dust
mighty valley
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to be clear, you should be the only one pulling, and it would be cool if respectful dps would let you learn

tropic gorge
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i had a string of tanks in rlp when running on my mage that would pull that first giant then sit until it died

mighty valley
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but you're going to encounter a lot of disrespectful dps and it's also a goal to up your pace

lusty tiger
pale rock
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Mh the DDs in my last dungeon must have been asleep i outdpsed them

hybrid aurora
tropic gorge
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i dont mind dps pulling extra stuff if the group (or i) can handle it

hybrid aurora
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dps shouldnt be pulling

lusty tiger
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i mean especially in non m+ u can pull trash to each boss

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i used to race my dps there and win every time

hybrid aurora
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last week I would just get it down to 60% hp or do and then pull all the rest

tropic gorge
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normal and heroic difficulty level is redic easy

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even at "proper" gear level for them

hybrid aurora
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yeah, if youre doing normal and heroic, you should be pulling it 1 wing at a time 😛

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you're a pwar. You aint gonna die.

pale rock
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I dont really have the time to spare to raid on regular bases since most peoples raiding time times collide with the exact time i have my workouts at the gym

tropic gorge
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you can pug everything

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or, look for guilds that raid at a time that's good for you. theres bound to be one

lusty tiger
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we talking about dungeon though

pale rock
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so bed time for me my arms feeling todays workout

tepid raptor
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is [Windscar Whetstone] 402 good?

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for m+

hybrid aurora
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yes

lusty tiger
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ye i got chest day after work here in an hour

tepid raptor
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whats bis for m+?

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just returned from 2 years break

lusty tiger
hybrid aurora
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^

slim dove
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all totem + whetstone is probably the BIS setup

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for m+.

lusty tiger
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also check bloodmallet (if it isnt still bugged)

sour sentinel
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Hey i just leveled up a prot war last week and I don't know what to get in my chest, would someone help me ?

slim dove
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bloodmallets gonna jerk off over boon and icon.

sour sentinel
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Not yet but i didn't use catalyst yet

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i have 3p

lusty tiger
sour sentinel
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Yup

lusty tiger
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but sim just to make sure

sour sentinel
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Yup but isn't the ring broken ?

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And rarer than grieftorch ?

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(ill reclean HM every week)

lusty tiger
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tbh idk i dont raid yet

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this xpac

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if it is the fire ring, iirc you need the frostfire belt to make it worthwhile

smoky dock
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Anyone know the uptime on sophic devotion in mythic plus?

lusty tiger
smoky dock
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Trying to decide if I should just rock sophic or stay with frozen devotion

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Pretty good uptime thank you

sick sentinel
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i normally play with wafting devotion purple rank 2

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just until market booming stops

sick sentinel
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shame i cant take 10 infusions, and make them into a concentrated

sick sentinel
weary notch
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so I'm confused. I did the catalyst quest last week, got one charge, didn't have anything to spend it on. Finished my quest this week and I still only have one charge. Is that how it's supposed to work?

sullen yarrow
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guys how you tank the tree boss (academy) on high keys when you have a priest heal who can't remove the debuff? feels impossible to me.

hybrid fossil
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hopefully someone in your group can dispell the debuff - i pick sometimes bitter immunity to dispell myself but its a 3min cd

sullen yarrow
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dunno why academy has 2 tank intensive bosses, bird isnt full aswell.. <.<

buoyant narwhal
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I think Bitter Immunity can clean it if im not mistaken

sullen yarrow
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hm

sterile bough
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does any1 know what is default setting on itf on sims?

sterile bough
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so it depends on the chosen thing?

lusty tiger
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send screenshot of what ur looking at

sick sentinel
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you guys use a WA to track 2pc bonus?

weary notch
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I do

sick sentinel
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okay, i will take this into consideration

weary notch
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I track SB, 2pc and Violent Outburst

cyan lichen
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Hello folks...
I can make 1 405 item, and this is "the worst" I have to reeplace... what do you recomend?

sterile bough
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finger I guess?

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it shouldnt matter at all tbh

warm plinth
sick sentinel
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whats your name in game and US or EU or other?

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then we can just look you up

zealous grove
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If you don’t have lariat and a decent Wep/shield I’d do that before making a ring personally. Rings are bountiful in my experience

weary notch
zealous grove
cyan lichen
buoyant narwhal
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you have 405 unstable belt too, or just the 3 mentioned above?

buoyant narwhal
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Ahh if it isn't Mr Ljr

pale dragon
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I joined the prot gang last sat

buoyant narwhal
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Nice man 😄 Did you play something else at the start of the expansion?

proud dock
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is fury still the go to dps spec or arms?

pale dragon
buoyant narwhal
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prot warr is great though 😄

sick sentinel
open gazelle
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Hyrjah killing healers this week in my experience

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In like +20s

sterile bough
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wait until u get to odyn

open gazelle
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Odyn seems easier

sterile bough
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2 hit on runes and u die

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lovely experience

sick sentinel
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they have easier to understand guides

fresh belfry
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*allegedly properly simming since today

chilly brook
jade zephyr
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Hey, so I have a probably stupid question: which is more important, the gear it self(ilvl/stats) or the 4 tier set bonus? for example if i have a 418ilvl goggles, should i replace it with a 408 head for the 4tier bonus set?

oblique quarry
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Am I wrong in thinking not much really changes on heroic brood? Watched a few videos and it looks like it’s the same old thing from a tank perspective

zealous grove
lusty tiger
echo scarab
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guys, is it true that the tree boss in academy meeles his adds when he gets moved through them??

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thats bs right

warm plinth
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Uh, no?

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Not that I'm aware

echo scarab
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i went fury for a key and the tank was kiting the boss all the time so i told him to stop

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and he told me im fucking stupid

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cause the boss would hit the lashers

oblique quarry
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Lol

normal fiber
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outside of embelishments is weapon the first non embelish item to make if you dont get one over 405?

cinder storm
echo canyon
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go for shield @normal fiber

warm plinth
echo scarab
warm plinth
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None of his other abilities hit lashers either

grave wedge
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Only reason to move the boss is to get him onto lashers and things if dps doesnt stack

echo scarab
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nah he was kiting like wild the whole time

chilly brook
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He big dumb

echo scarab
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thats what i told him lol

warm plinth
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The only thing that even hits lashers besides players in that encounter is the heal circle from the add, but that's generally not something you're very concerned with since the nerfs.

chilly brook
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@warm plinth I’m going to talent barbaric training because of you now

warm plinth
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Most of the adds are dead by the time that happens

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That's okay. I forgive you.

fresh belfry
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shield is giga accessible with eranog tho

normal fiber
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Is that one of the raid bosses i really havent raided this xpac yet

fresh belfry
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like, you can even pug mythic eranog on the smallest realms

fading mauve
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Can anyone tell me what is best to train for ruby whelp shell

warm plinth
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ST or haste

lusty tiger
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O.O

pallid quiver
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We repeat

That's a dk, nothing to see here

warm plinth
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The train tracks are alive?

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👀

lusty tiger
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They are live

warm plinth
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They're coming to get us!

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Run!

lusty tiger
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That guy better run

pallid quiver
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Fuckin' trains, I knew ot

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I'mma kick their ass

warm plinth
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I have never been on a train

lusty tiger
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Trains are chill

warm plinth
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Closest I've been is like a tram that goes around an airport

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We don't have trains in many places in the US (at least, not for passengers)

lusty tiger
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U don’t live in the south do u?

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Ever hear of a guy named Henry flagler

arctic marten
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With the 2-set, during execute phase, should Revenge still be used? Or only cast Execute?

hybrid fossil
gloomy iris
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anyone knows 1 strength = _ haste ?

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for dps

thin silo
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too variable
gotta sim it

full wind
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20ilvl on shoulders or 4set? 🤔

mighty valley
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20ilvl on shoulders likely better offensively, 4set defensively

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but with catalyst charges coming in, 4set is guaranteed soonish anyway

toxic gyro
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Take shoulders and turn them into tier.

full wind
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already put my 421 gloves into tier this week :x

inland garnet
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Dudes, is there any point in crafting eng wrists if one is not an engineer? if yes what tinker - cr seems really bad nowadays

toxic gyro
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You can turn them next week.

young dove
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Hey guys what consumables do y’all use for mythic raiding? I’ve been using glacial fury and whetstone but is the chaos one and howling rune better?

median tulip
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Most people are using the Haste Rune IIRC, although there's not a lot in it

mighty valley
finite scarab
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im not a engi u would be surprised how many times it has saved a wipe cause heals are stupid

mighty valley
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it's so dangerous though, don't use it to just pick up a dps or whatever since you have like a 50% chance to turn into a rat and wipe

inland garnet
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Yeah, I am basically in your shoes. Have to change bracers, already got 2 embellishments (inf helm and shield spikes).
Wonder if I should go for eng bracers or allied (and wipe the spikes)

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But the failure prevention component won't prevent this? (I have no idea how it works exactly)

mighty valley
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I don't know the actual chances, I can only imagine if I didn't have that socketed it would be even worse

inland garnet
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any other useful tinker that doesn't fail? 🙂

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or fails less catastrophyically

cinder nova
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Being told to take Bitter for an 18 AA with 3 poison dispels in the party 🫠

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yeah nah thanx

toxic pewter
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Lol wat

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F that

warm plinth
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kek

sick sentinel
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tell him lol, cleanse more?

heady jetty
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I was lucky enough to find a spark and going to craft a shield, any advice on stats i should pick on it.
Still just haste versa?

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That's why a few stacks of into the fray

sick sentinel
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haste versa or haste crit, whichever you like really

south zealot
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haste crit for savage

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damage

heady jetty
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im kinda low on crit, guess i might go with that

sick sentinel
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13% versa

visual kestrel
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is there any way to track deathspike in sbg first boss or do I just pray I have spell reflect/block up

warm plinth
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her buff shows on my nameplates 🤷

sick sentinel
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is that with itf stacks

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i have this with HR

visual kestrel
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like I just asked :)

warm plinth
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Then idk what you're asking. If she has the buff, the next 3 melees do Deathspike damage

visual kestrel
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the spell book says a chance

warm plinth
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Successful melees have a chance to apply deathspike to the boss. The actual deathspikes happen on the next 3 successful melees.

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So the buff is a chance, the hits are not.

visual kestrel
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oh imagine it, and apart from spell reflecting the first one I just feel dead afterwards

warm plinth
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Yeah healer has to be ready for it and you'll have to rotate other defensives as well

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My personal favorite is when she gets the buff, I hit reflect, and she casts Whispers of the Dark right after yep

sick sentinel
#

5 stacks of buff in cobalt

warm plinth
#

There's an epic power that you can get that's effectively 100% leech as well

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You heal 100% of damage done

crude notch
#

you're an epic power

warm plinth
feral dune
golden night
#

hello, i just checked pins and couldnt find anything, apologize if this was askd before but is Strike Twice worth over the Terros haste vers mainhand? both 415

warm plinth
#

Yes

golden night
#

thanks alot, sims said it was btter but wanted to check. Cheers

limber flame
#

bro is bonemaw hit box fixed? i swear revenge aint hitting this fucker

daring marlin
#

Trash buggy boss

#

literal garbage

limber flame
#

like my dps plunging to barely 25k on bonemaw

#

thunderclap and revenge just aint hitting

warm plinth
#

If you stand right on the edge you can hit him

daring marlin
#

Right in his nonexistant asshole

limber flame
#

ye ill try that, boss takes like three times as long cause shit aint hitting.

proud dock
#

are there weakaura to reflect the daggers or something in first boss of sbg? i heard theres specific timing

limber flame
#

if you have a player, you can see when she gets 3 stacks of dagger

pallid quiver
#

On the topic of Deathspikes, now that I'm thinking about it, does someone have the spellID for her instance of it? Want to get a WA to let me know ahe has it up

sick sentinel
#

maxing that armor spec tree out

warm plinth
#

Holy shit crafting profs have a lot of subspecs

sick sentinel
#

some of them do, and then make you spend 40 total points to get one full ring

craggy pilot
#

wtf is this shit game

#

quaking on Hyrja....

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quaking on 2nd boss COS

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....

warm plinth
#

Yeah like, all of mine are 30-40 on first node and then 30-40 on 3-4 sub-nodes lol

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And that's it

sick sentinel
#

maximum bombs

warm plinth
#

Yeah that's basically what all the gathering trees look like

#

Some have 4 sub-specs but that's it, no sub-sub-specs

sick sentinel
#

i believe its for the major crafting professions get one like what i showed,

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so like JC, LW, tailor, would all get 1 of those big ones i showed, and then also

craggy pilot
#

is there a specific way to handle Hyrja on Quaking?

hardy snow
inland garnet
#

Quaking and Thundering seems quite fun in some situations

craggy pilot
hardy snow
#

storm circle on cos?

inland garnet
#

The specific way might be getting 3 rdps

warm plinth
craggy pilot
craggy pilot
#

no way to avoid it it seems

hardy snow
craggy pilot
#

even if i tried to time it so the Quaking happened before Storm

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the 2nd Storm we would get quaking

hardy snow
#

ive done today 21 cos and this boss wasnt problem

craggy pilot
warm plinth
#

You don't have to like, literally stack the imps on Talixae or w/e her name is

craggy pilot
#

i did COS 20 just now

warm plinth
#

Just loosely stacked is fine

craggy pilot
#

we timed it

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but insta wiped the first time we got Quaking lined up with imps

#

but COS you can line up Quaking, and it happens on every imp

#

so i just tried to go boss like 2sec before Quaking

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so it lined up outside of imps

#

but holy shit Quaking just make some bosses impossible if you dont have the Quaking timer

hardy snow
#

we had like twice quaking during imps coming and there were no issues, we just spread enough to not get hit by each other quake

craggy pilot
#

5 quaking people and ull get 1 imp in narnia

hardy snow
#

spread around boss

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not in lline away from it

warm plinth
#

It is loosely stacked. It's only 8 yards lol. Just spread around the boss and you'll be fine

inland garnet
#

I think it's about time Quaking to get lost and finally melees don't deal with every single mf weekly affix but rather introduce something fun for hunters. Not to get bored.

warm plinth
#

I don't mind quaking. I just think the overlap shouldn't be fatal. Maybe a damage loss or something

dusk sky
#

Hey for m+ is arms or fury on top right now? or close

craggy pilot
dusk sky
#

yes

craggy pilot
dusk sky
#

i felt like there would be less bias

craggy pilot
#

just remove the possibility of quaking happening on some Boss mechanics

hardy snow
craggy pilot
#

during Hyrja Storm, COS Imps, Nokhud Spear last boss

#

fx

dusk sky
#

lol

craggy pilot
#

just to name a few

hardy snow
warm plinth
#

It already doesn't trigger for last boss NO

dusk sky
#

i main prot i just want to find a seocondary spec for when my friends and i rotate out

craggy pilot
#

but its bugged again

dusk sky
#

but fair enough

craggy pilot
#

i saw video from today about it

hardy snow
#

out of your list I would add hyrja storm for that

craggy pilot
#

best spec

hardy snow
#

but I think bubble is big enough to handle 5 quakes

craggy pilot
#

i did say Hyrja Storm?

sand mason
#

Thoughts on taking bitter immunity in TJS (to help with the heal absorb) and dropping a few things like sidearm or stormbolt?

hardy snow
#

I mean, I agree Hyrja should got such hotfix

craggy pilot
#

also Academy Tree boss

hardy snow
#

but imps arent really issue, especially compared to hyrja or nokhud

warm plinth
sand mason
#

In like 22s?

craggy pilot
#

if you spread them and ur grp is full melee

#

you cant really kick the far ones

#

idk Quaking just shouldnt happen on bossfights maybe

#

but that would make it a non affix

#

it can also oneshot you on AV books i bet

#

and Halls portal to Fenryr

worthy briar
#

last stand

craggy pilot
#

13 hours ago 🙂

#

so yea nokhud boss is still bugged with Quaking

#

also potentially an issue on SMBG Worm inhale

#

3rd boss AV, Quaking during shield 🙂

#

so many fun combos

round pendant
#

am I weird if I prefer tyrannical over fortified

round pendant
#

but yeah the overlaps are painful sometimes

craggy pilot
#

cus mobs are sleep

#

and bosses are sleep, but just longer

craggy pilot
#

so need to coordinate 1 person to go down or something

#

idk man

round pendant
#

Yeah, and the adds don't take up an insane amount of time, they're already the longest part of the dungeon

#

so if your party kinda sucks it's still safer and more likely to time

#

assuming they're capable of doing the boss mechanics

craggy pilot
#

idk, Tyr is just weird cus they have to tune the bosses dmg around Tyr

#

so it doesnt literally 1 shot people on Tyr

#

and then bosses just become piss easy on Fort

sick sentinel
craggy pilot
#

if you know the bosses, Tyr is the easiest week in my opinion

#

but holy shit 3min+ bossfights are boring

#

SMBG Worm on Tyr 💤 😴

sick sentinel
vale escarp
#

Yes, and If there is a range DD who doesnt get close to the Boss, its even more boring

sick sentinel
#

thats true until people don't do the mechanics and then 3 dps die to some circle crap

dire matrix
#

its true until the boss has a 1 shot once every minute

#

and u run out of cds

#

or if it ramps to unhealable dmg

#

like odyn

#

or simply one shots you

craggy pilot
#

first boss Halls also slaps man

#

Tyr Horn

#

holy shit 🤣

#

was taking entire grp to 20% hp on a +20

warm plinth
#

Yeah but that's legit the only group damage on the fight so it's fine

craggy pilot
#

true

#

but its every 20 seconds or so

#

i dont remember

weary saddle
#

I am surprised Darkmoon Dance + jetscale sigil is so high!

craggy pilot
#

i was thinking maybe we could rotate Rally + Darkness and Personals

#

but holy shit he does it a lot of times during a Tyr fight

dire matrix
#

1 minute

craggy pilot
#

so 1 Rally, 1 Darkness, 1 Personals

#

and then last one? 🤔

tulip kelp
#

Horn ain’t an issue really

#

Eye is way worse

dire matrix
#

it is 24+

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or 25 idr

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depends on ur hp/class/vers

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will 1 shot without a def

warm plinth
tulip kelp
#

24/25 you’re gonna get more than 4 horns unless you’re absolutely pumping dmg

craggy pilot
#

yea if people are topped before

dire matrix
#

if ur not topped

#

ur healer sucks

warm plinth
#

Yeah but like I said, there is 0 group damage other than that

dire matrix
#

you have 45s to heal to full

warm plinth
#

If you can't top 4 people in 45 seconds you have no business being there

dire matrix
#

thats 1 rejuv

craggy pilot
#

true

dire matrix
#

and a wildgrowth

craggy pilot
#

but i was in +20

#

and it did 80% hp

#

so would assume it straight up kills entire party at like 25?

warm plinth
#

Yeah so on higher keys you'd need to rotate personals/cds

dire matrix
#

it will in a 24

#

i believe

#

depending on ilvl etc

#

as i said before

#

warlock gonna take a lot to 1 hit them

craggy pilot
#

hmm weird

#

just checked +25 log

#

and didnt seem like SHaman was using any defensive

#

and took like 210k dmg

#

oh it is old log from Fort week nvm 😄

abstract dust
#

odd questions for gems do we want haste/vers or the vers/haste gem?

#

i'm seeing mixed things on warriors for prot, thats why i'm asking

pallid quiver
#

Defensively speaking, haste is a better defensive stat; look at stat prio in pins

#

Offensively, just sim

frozen rose
#

For those of you doing decent damage in raid, for M eranog, do you delay hitting any abilities until first set of adds come out? Or just go hard at pull?

tulip kelp
#

Go hard imo

#

It kinda syncs up eventually

vale escarp
tulip kelp
#

Vers/haste trolling

frozen rose
#

@tulip kelp only other raid fight I can think where u might consider delaying an ability is raz, with wrecking throw ya? Make sure it lines up with boss shield. And maybe big add shield in phase 2

vivid cedar
#

just got 4 set, what is vanguards determination?

summer eagle
#

the buff you get after pressing Revenge from 2piece

vivid cedar
#

omg lol cant read

summer eagle
#

xd

vivid cedar
#

should I change how i play then, just spam a lot more revenge?

#

literally only press ip if im gonna cap or capping

slim dove
#

No

#

Tier doesn't change how we play.

vital oak
#

That is the play, you should revenge enough doing normal rotation, just keep ip to prevent capping.

vivid cedar
#

i guess thats what i do normally yeah

#

true

stable frigate
warm plinth
#

Well step 1 is that Thunder clap shouldn't be your #1 cast on a single target fight

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Step 2 is you are running booming voice but you only used Demo Shout 3 times in almost 6 minutes

round pendant
#

Damn I parsed kinda nutty for just casually helping my friend clear Normal today

#

I know, normal parses

#

but considering I wasn't.. trying

stable frigate
#

yea i dont need demo i take no damage

hardy snow
round pendant
#

Yeah that's the whole point of booming voice

warm plinth
#

Note I said you're running booming voice...it makes mobs take 20% more damage during demo shout

flat jackal
#

This is a dumb question, but i need to hard flame a guildie for being dumb. Can you block when you're stunned?

warm plinth
#

It also makes demo generate 30 rage

hardy snow
#

also ensure to use outburst only with SS in st fight

warm plinth
flat jackal
#

Man doesn't kick the stun on brood and gets mad at me for dying

warm plinth
#

Would be kinda hard to raise your shield if you know, you can't move 😂

round pendant
#

honestly I just kinda yolo my rotation, maybe I should learn it properly

#

but I'm parsing well enough and not dying so 🤷‍♂️

hardy snow
round pendant
#

I feel like people underestimate shield slam until they learn that shield slam is goated

warm plinth
#

shit even if it sucked I'd be spamming it for that sweet sweet sound effect

mellow patio
#

i just searched my name and this comes up

stable frigate
#

ok thanks guys ill work on that

#

appreciate the feedback

round pendant
#

when in doubt, press 1

warm plinth
#

You should also press Revenge more and IP less. IP should be used as a rage dump primarily unless you need it to soak a tankbuster

#

You're doing well at not wasting rage but you're spending it in the wrong place.

chilly brook
onyx vessel
chilly brook
#

^Hawgz irl

warm plinth
#

That guy's chin is actually scary tbh

onyx vessel
#

Ignore pain pressers have poor tier set uptime

round pendant
#

Is barbaric training just an absolute dogshit talent?

warm plinth
round pendant
#

I realised that when I had it in my builds, it just makes me have less fun

#

also rage starving oofies

#

needs a buff imo

warm plinth
#

It was nerfed

#

lol

round pendant
warm plinth
#

It started out at 40% increased damage, then dropped to 30, then to 25

#

In beta. It went live at 25%

round pendant
#

awful

#

saying that tho we're already doing pretty good damage no?

warm plinth
#

yeah we're fine on damage

round pendant
#

but the talent is just unfun

warm plinth
urban portal
#

its only good when you are overflooded with rage

#

which isnt quite the case

#

it exchanges DPR for DPET

#

we may take it again in the future

#

but not now

weak granite
#

any tips for 20+ nokhud?

sinful root
#

is there a macro to swap stances?

frozen rose
#

@warm plinth I know its interesting u mention revenge more. That’s the reason my logs blow, is high logs are revenged significantly more than me, yet, I feel like I’m revenging as much as I can, but I have very little opportunity to hit it due to other abilities being off cd, ie SS TC. Only thing I can think of is this point is just do a constant spam of 1, which is my revenge button, at all times I’m not doing…something or just in between whatever

warm plinth
#

Are you running Barbaric Training

frozen rose
round pendant
#

Well, ideally you should know what talents you're running

warm plinth
round pendant
#

How do you find the talents on wclogs?

warm plinth
#

Summary page

frozen rose
#

It’s been a while since I examined I honestly copied high logs for each fight recently

#

But I see I should have it. For dps

round pendant
#

I was also confused that it seems to be in a lot of high dps peoples' talents

#

but they're prob padding with fat trinkets

frozen rose
#

According to dps logs and guides. But not according to this guys name lol

#

Could be my trinks sadly are mot ideal for dps

warm plinth
#

How would your trinkets impact your revenge usage

round pendant
#

Nomeratur also doesn't think BT is good I think?

urban portal
#

barb is not good under current tuning

#

everyone pretty much agrees

warm plinth
#

Like use Barbaric Training all you want if you're never going to press IP but you're going to run out of rage if you're needing to press IP to survive (which is the case in all but trivial content) as well outside of cooldowns. It's makes revenge an incredibly inefficient spender. You can cast 3 revenges for the price of 2 without it and you do more damage with those revenges

#

(total)

errant cipher
#

whats prots stat breakpoints

warm plinth
#

40% haste (from rating), which is virtually unreachable

urban portal
#

if we have banner back

errant cipher
#

wb mast, crit, vers

urban portal
#

BT goes crazy

urban portal
errant cipher
#

stack vers over mast

warm plinth
#

You don't stack any stats. Equal ilevel you go for haste and whatever

errant cipher
#

im recrafting pants

#

so i get to pick the stats

warm plinth
#

Haste/crit or haste/vers are fine

urban portal
#

crit

#

the nerfs to block values indirectly make crit better

sick sentinel
gloomy sinew
#

guys what do u think in taking 2 bloodborne

errant cipher
#

what gems for lariat?

gloomy sinew
#

its tons of damage from the bleeds

urban portal
#

its not good

#

2 points is too expensive

warm plinth
#

If it was one point it would be a decent talent but 2 points is way too much

urban portal
#

1 point would be awesome

sick sentinel
#

i feel like same thing for 30 more rage for 2 talents in warrior

warm plinth
#

idk, overwhelming rage is just a crutch talent tbh

sick sentinel
#

if we had necro banner again sure

#

but they seemed to have thrown away reprisal and that

warm plinth
#

You can prevent overcapping without overwhelming rage, thus it's an unnecessary talent.

#

The only reason to run it is to give yourself a safety net

#

aka a crutch talent

urban portal
#

yeah overwhelming rage is more of a talent with necro in play

#

but the logic of it allows you to pool rage for revenge instead of dumping it into a potentially overcapped IP

warm plinth
#

Pooling is bad for us though because we should be virtually gcd capped. Not pressing a button likely means not activating a chance for a shield slam reset which creates a negative cycle.

urban portal
#

yeah thats my point, you are able to send more rage into revenge instead of a potentially overcapped IP

#

it gets better the more rage gen we have

frozen rose
#

@warm plinth favorite talent build for having some good dps? I see noms in the pins for raid, Icey veins and wowhead of course

urban portal
#

but in the current tier we dont need it

sterile bough
#

overwelming rage is very good compared to other options u have for that points

urban portal
#

eh

#

at 2 points

#

may just take utility

sterile bough
#

what utility

#

maby inti shout

#

but u already have shockwave stormbold interupt

urban portal
#

well this is what the top players are using

sick sentinel
#

when i was leveling to 70 i used dance of death and sometimes storm of steel

urban portal
#

cant really see myself dropping any of these

sick sentinel
#

i think they are a bit under tuned

sterile bough
#

I couldnt see myself dropping inti shout aswell

#

then I just dropped it

sick sentinel
#

ravager has always been a weird spell

urban portal
#

yeah thats 1 point

#

cant drop anything else on top row

#

and in middel row you def would not drop anything either except maybe pain and gain

sick sentinel
#

yeah, leave fearing to the warlock or spriest that has 13 total armor anyways

urban portal
#

why would armor matter

#

its just an extra kick

warm plinth
#

yogi is an intimidating shout hater

urban portal
#

right RNG

sick sentinel
#

cuz they get 1 shot if they attempt to fear and get aggro lol

urban portal
#

huh

#

thats not how aggro works

#

they still keep their aggro

sterile bough
#

its yogi dont try to understand what hes saying

#

its like trying to understand kid with autism

sick sentinel
#

im goiung to leave fear up to my warlock

#

leave it at at that

urban portal
#

so you are saying that you should let the warlock fear and get meleed once it breaks

#

got it

cedar trench
#

yogi is tank not warlock

#

SMH

#

no fear for yogi

sick sentinel
#

the aggro part wasn't important really

cedar trench
#

Shout isnt used as a fear anyway its for an extra stop

#

most would run honed instead if they have enough in group

#

or bounding in some dungs

sick sentinel
#

bounding strides is legit

cedar trench
#

concussive and honed in some dungs lets you solo things you normally couldn't which is also a good combo, IF you need it**

pallid quiver
#

Concussive what now

sick sentinel
#

you know, i never considered running concussive in keys, im not sure if its a good idea though

cedar trench
#

it is if you need the kick cd

#

but its a dmg loss

pallid quiver
#

i forgot that talent still was on the tree there

sick sentinel
#

except some bosses, there is always some spell to kick

#

and then so its just figuring out how much uptime you can have of that reasonably

pallid quiver
#

It's like, the cd reduction is so impossibly niche, especially when it competes with sidearm, which is actually a decent chunk of damage

cedar trench
#

Exactly my point

#

if you're playing double boomy for some ungodly reason and you know the talent can let you solo kick a mob

#

why wouldn't you

#

its a damage loss but makes life much easier

sick sentinel
#

14 second CD on pummel, and if you get a kick off correctly, it gives 5% dmg for 10seconds

cedar trench
#

13 with honed

sick sentinel
#

that seems strong for tyrani

cedar trench
#

for yogi i would stay with sidearm 😄

pallid quiver
#

I can't think of anything off the top of my head I would ever do that for

urban portal
#

something like the spires goliath from SL

#

would be great with it

sick sentinel
#

no

cedar trench
#

i can't remember exact mobs but andy was saying RLP COS and NO

pallid quiver
#

Anything I'm concerned about soloing, I can Int/Storm Bolt/Fear in current dungs

sick sentinel
#

pummel is 14 with honed, and 15 without

pallid quiver
#

but like outside of flashfire, half the casts in rlp have to be hardstopped anyway tho

cedar trench
#

with pummel and concussive its 13

#

yea but i think his point is like

#

if you can take an entire kick of a mob in these high keys

sick sentinel
#

oh, okay i see now

#

so, yeah, thats even better then, prety close to or equal to shammy kick in terms of CD length

cedar trench
#

Yea, its very niche but definitely has a use if you need it

#

TJS he takes it as well

sick sentinel
#

fortified weeks is when maybe i am imagining

#

lol, im a kid with autism, you hear it all

sinful root
#

is there any macro to put on a keybind to defensive stance and back to battle

cedar trench
#
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance```
frozen rose
#

Hmm I just use Elvui keybinds. No macro. I could use bartender as well

wet dust
#

Is everyone mostly chilling in Battle when tanking?

cedar trench
#

be in whatever you need

#

question is incredibly subjective, if you can live comfortably be in battle

sick sentinel
#

fuck, today was pretty good day though, i got mount mile stone off doing a low key for ksm prog, first key of the day, no wipes, then i got all kinds of transmog items, today a good day

marble oak
#

how do you decide what rings to use as prot warrior?

#

how much do you prioritize stats over ilvl

cedar trench
#

ilvl >

#

more stats in general is just better

#

raid rings probably have a ilvl equiv but im not 100% sure, would just sim

modest gulch
#

anyone know a good discord to find a guild? 8/8h 3/8m

sick sentinel
#

at what ilvlto replace cobalt ring

cedar trench
#

when you feel comfortable with the loss if its the shield one

#

otherwise simmy sim

cedar trench
sick sentinel
#

wow thats a lot of numbers, too bad im not reading them

cedar trench
#

honestly i just ilvl unequipped the shield one

torpid junco
#

Are we spamming revenge way more when we get 4 piece

sick sentinel
#

i use only the attack one personally

cedar trench
#

would just do an easy top gear sim then

oak ivy
#

is web blast from sennarth blockable without spell block?

cedar trench
#

ya

#

its phys

proud dock
#

do we double pull bridge pack in AA this week?

slow harbor
#

is vex first the usual route at that key level?

last nova
#

can you spell block and spell reflect 3rd boss in TJS?

slow harbor
#

makes sense, thats cool. im always going tree first in 10-14s, wonder if thats better here

last nova
#

thanks

cedar trench
last nova
#

jade serpent strike?

cedar trench
#

Ya

last nova
#

ok ty

finite scarab
#

i dont think u can SR the jade serpent only the fire one

amber siren
#

Serpent strike is reflectable, jade serpent strike isn't

cedar trench
#

yea i said p1

#

didnt mean jade though

finite scarab
#

he then said the jade strike and u said ya

cedar trench
#

yes i realized that

finite scarab
#

so just making sure he knows

gloomy seal
#

Are these sims of Darkmoon Trinkets big cap right now or is Dancing really that pog rn?

finite scarab
#

before he gets himself fucked

cedar trench
#

i dont think anyone really uses them

#

so it might be

#

dance might also be doing 12 bounces every time

patent zealot
#

Jade hurts more so its sadge

modest gulch
#

Anyone know a good discord to find a guild?

inland raft
#

I actually found a group capable of depleting an sbg today, 22 and i was higher then one of the dps and they sll stacked for quaking and committed mass suicide on bonemaw

modest gulch
#

oh, warcraft logs

#

and raider io

#

ok

errant cipher
#

what are some updated talent builds, everyone on top in rio is taking almost no cc

cedar trench
#

top groups have insane cc coordination and they take exactly what they need, pinned default build is still very good

amber siren
#

They’re taking no cc because they’re top players with very good coordination

cedar trench
#

can swap fear shout out for whatever

frozen rose
#

Any point in running keys higher than 20?

cedar trench
#

for fun

errant cipher
cedar trench
vapid lake
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Am i missing something with All-totem trinket? Keep hearing that its amazing, but its usually only equals about ~1500 dps for me on a given mythic dungeon.

cedar trench
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does more than just damage

vapid lake
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Ah, thats what i was confused about i guess. What else does it do?

cedar trench
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3-5% damage and haste/armor procs

vapid lake
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Appreciate it. Makes way more sense now, was just looking at the pure dps output.

errant cipher
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ohh

errant cipher
onyx vessel
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Bunch of wow andys in here tonight critcake

warm plinth
amber siren
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hell yeah

pallid quiver
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oh

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Time to gear my two alts instantly

astral crystal
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Can’t transfer focuses tho

warm plinth
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No but you can get alts to higher keys faster which means you get focuses faster

halcyon dust
pallid hare
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what's our best single target dps phial?

halcyon dust
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I've been running eye of the storm. seems sufficient

amber siren
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best ST is glacial

dire sparrow
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is there a spell reflect WA for the spells that are reflectable in M+?

gloomy iris
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I have one but too long to send

crystal mauve
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Ruby +16 Pug tank warrior, I think he forgot something

gloomy iris
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he forgot his shield

pallid quiver
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But IP's a 50% dr, bro, why would i ever put rage into blocking?

mortal brook
tulip kelp
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lol I had two guys flame me during a 21 RLP for dying and said 67% overall uptime on IP was why we didn’t time.. said 100% uptime on IP is faceroll

violet summit
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is the belt worth crafting without either of the rings?

patent saddle
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Hey I have question,in hals of Valor going to Valk boss,before the Valk Mob there is caster u pull with meles, he stands up the stairs ,can ranged jump and interrupt cast or not ? Cause when I don't go to interrupt him nobody does for some reason

last nova
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everytime i fight TJS 3rd boss i'm always on the brink of dying, is this normal?

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she hits really hard

lean gale
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Is the Darkmoon Card-Set relly that strong?

warm plinth
chilly brook
silent anchor
warm plinth
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Are you using defensives on the jade serpent strike?

last nova
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i don't get hit by spin kick or the waves but i'm like nearly dead

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yes i spell reflect serpent strike

warm plinth
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No

last nova
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and have IP up

warm plinth
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JADE Serpent Strike

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Which is not reflectable

last nova
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i literally gotta pop shield wall to survive the encounter

chilly brook
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Oh wow

warm plinth
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Yes, you have to rotate defensives in phase 2 dude

chilly brook
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You have to use a cD

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That’s like

last nova
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2x shield wall

chilly brook
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Only 1 minute

last nova
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last stand

chilly brook
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You should be using shield wall often anyways

last nova
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i don't understand why on tyrnaical she hits like a fucking truck

warm plinth
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Okay hold on

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Are you aware that she has 3 phases?

chilly brook
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We gain and spend so much rage

last nova
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yes first phase is easy

warm plinth
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Yes, first phase is easy

last nova
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the jade phase is the killer for me

patent saddle
warm plinth
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2nd phase is when she will fuck you up if you're not rotating cooldowns for the strikes because they are no longer reflectable.

warm plinth
last nova
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i tried using spell block on it and i don't think it did anything

warm plinth
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It will mitigate the initial hit but that's not the dangerous part of the mechanic

last nova
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it's the DOT

warm plinth
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After the initial hit, she leaves a DoT on you and a huge heal absorb

last nova
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hurts so much

warm plinth
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The heal absorb is the important part. You need to use Last Stand and Impending Victory liberally to help the healer clear the absorb

warm plinth
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Can also use healthstones/health potions

gloomy iris
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she suck your health after hit you hard

agile stag
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Tell ur grp to hold cds untill 70% and lust at 70

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Last boss is meme anyways

tulip kelp
warm plinth
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You can't

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He asked about ranged

last nova
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ok so spell block did save my ass

tulip kelp
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Ahh word misread

warm plinth
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You can't block DoTs

patent saddle
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And in shadwomoon burial ground 1st boss , if he stands next to dagerfalls , he keeps getting that dager looking buff on him , where it works like wind fury and keeps hitting tank with those attacks ? Dagger fall should be stacked on 1 position and then boss moved away before they drop down ?

halcyon dust
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The imps in Court, does Spell Block only block or does it reflect back to the imps? Meaning, should I be running in solo and just spell block it all?

warm plinth
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You can't prevent the buff. Just use spell reflect and other CDs to survive the hits

mortal brook
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spell reflect reflects it, spell block blocks it

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you go in, sync casts, reflect them all

patent saddle
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Ok

halcyon dust
warm plinth
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Spell Block can't reflect things. Two separate spells, two separate effects.

last nova
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Mass spell reflect in pve would be nice again

warm plinth
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I think the word you're looking for is overpowered

patent saddle
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I had around 55% hp last night there after eclipse and did my shield wall and died to that boss on 21 key was abit happend how I dropped so fast

gloomy iris
patent saddle
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Confused *

halcyon dust
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If they don't engage, all the casts should go on me, right?

warm plinth
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They need to stay back out of range

patent saddle
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And spell block works there too or just spell reflection?

warm plinth
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Both, but there's no reason to run spell block in Court of Stars

oak ivy
patent saddle
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Ok ths

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And 1x question for that boss

oak ivy
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Sadge

patent saddle
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The runes on ground to they dmg tank and party when u tank him ?

warm plinth
oak ivy
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👀 okay well now I've gotten two different answers

patent saddle
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If u stand around them or on them ?

warm plinth
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You didn't get two answers

oak ivy
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oh archii was talkin about something else

warm plinth
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Archii is talking about something completely different

oak ivy
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gotcha