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same ilvl
Or if it's a set bonus
set is given
you dont need to hold charges, you may get one 421 vault item for +20s, but within the same week you will also receive another charge
i have to decive what to catalyst
yes, always ilvl no matter what
it doesn't matter if its got the worst dog shit as stats
Sim it, mastery can be a larger DPS increase
It is 1 charge per week yeah?
Hey, Quick question. I have incarnate icon, all totems and decorstion of flame(all of them from hc) simulations told me that Best setup is all totem and icon. Do you think is it Worth to Exchange absorb from decorstion for some dps and constant versa from icon?
Id reco the two highest pieces; then youll do some dungeons and a 405 helm is gonna drop
and you can pump that to 415
The stat priority is a guideline and the gap between stats is not big
Cobalt ring still swimming higher than any of my other rings lol
yes 1 charge per week
yes, so everytime you will find another 421 tierpossible item, you will be able to get charge for it
which is better
It's so imba
think I'll do that
The absorb is negligible
feels bad to use a charge on a 395
So this player is asking if it’s worth to catalyst a piece that is item level 395 because sim says it’s 500dps gain
cause when a 405 drops, that combo becomes better cause more stat
Feel like raid it’s just trolling me to get me to keep this 389 ring over 405
I’m trying to give incite to help them make the best decision
395 is quite different situation than vault reward
Correct
If they get set bonus from it
I mean
you can get 400, 405 or upgrade something till 415 within the same week
the ruby whelp proc do you train on full single target proc ? the Fire Shot one ?
We'll have a catalyst every week
Haste proc probably best iirc
so if you use your charge for 395 today, you might be in situation where withing this same week you will get better item to use charge for
But st nuke isn't bad
if you use it for 421 from vault, your next 421 will be only on next week at soonest
So i guess im going for all totem and icon for now, which one of them should be replaced by cos trinket?
If the 395 item being catalyst gives you 4p bonus it’s a no brainer if it just changes stats then not worth imo
your shoulders are also only 385
It depends what level of content they are farming during the week
only M+, key lvl 17+
Yepo, totem will be replaced during raid and icon will be replaced during m+
Replace icon if you are only one using it
Icon only good if you running 5 stack with it imo
is fang addornments the bigger the weapon i have the more effect i get? or how about are damage dealing embellishments increased by something like versa
true
i did do rank 3 on my weapon, but its just a 402 atm
Alright so you could theoretically loot a 398 helmet that is upgradable with valor
Ok, thanks guys
there are a lot of ways to go
Really in your case short term answer is to just trust the sim
If your trying to play the long game there’s a lot of variables
ill go for 415 set hands and 418 legs and try to upgrade the shoulders next, also going for a better nonset head
I think catalyst on the highest item level is the best play long game
Leaving helm slot open for engi tinker is pretty sweet
I’m trying to work that out but did 418 helm week 1 from vault lul
Is the belt still best embellishment after lariat if not getting raid rings?
No it’s good with rings
It’s been said here that all embellishments are worth roughly 1%
its good with and without rings, but if you arent getting rings, you have some options
Yep
but I have engi bracers soooo
Ya thats what was leaning towards i have engi braces but have used them a total of like 5 times whole xpac, usually if people die its on pulls that theres too much going on for me to use them without getting clapped
Keep engi imo
a lot of times it may be too difficult
im engineer, problem is, i literal put all my points into bombs atm
but you may lose your healer to something stupid, finish pull, realize the walk back is a 1:30 and no one else can rez
Make bombs good again
Better than blowing yourself up
then you like, fuck it

bres
thats most important bit about begin engi, right? bomb grenades?
True so makes options basically belt and spikes then
i did belt food
Yogi food is free
Food doesnt count towards
yes, i have 405 unity bracers and 402 fang weapon
no 418's cuz bad and refuse to git gud to do keys like 16's and above
Have tou even tried to do 16+ yogi? At this point you basically get dragged through even as a tank
16s seem pretty easy now.
no idea man
i did ungodly amount of keys last week, for better or worse, many many fails,
My pally was doing them right after dinging 70 and just hard carried by heals/dps just the token tank
Yeah everybody’s getting that 4pc and item level now
So the farm keys are feeling easy easy
Ya up to 20/21 is pretty cake walk now
People just blast stuff before it gets dangerous
yea, around 21-22 you can basically just do a basic route and time any key
around 23+ is when you gotta be a little more risky
RLP might be a exception for groups that havnt done the last boss enough
i'm still going to let the pie cool on the window ledge of the kitchen so its easy to grab when its not piping hot, ie. let the metas settle down and gear settle for other players
you might wipe once or twice while healer learns what the heck is going on
would you ever pick an socket from vault over an ilvl upgrade?
2nd boss the real spice, bolder running it down mid exactly where you are pathing 
Boulders shooting FORWARD
I play with a guild; so I can at least direct traffic on 2nd boss
Baiting add FORWARd
Ya pugs stull tend to not bait adds along the kite path and instead drop them behind fire for some reason
what scares me about RLP boss 2 is whatever the hell she does after the fire add dies
but 3rd boss its like not possible once its p2
and then tank takes boat loads of dmg
Or ya baiting boulder right through add or forward down the path
Really ? I think p2 is easier
not for healers
P1 frontal is what kills groups
RLP is going to be a very bad time this week for boss 2 and 3
just stand between pillars; dragon baits really easily
Trick is to get dragon to 51-52 focus the guy til deagon lands again then burn dragon as much as can
anyone know how i can get my 6th Spark fast? 🤔
Makes transition easier cuz can take like another 10-20% depending on key level off before p2
pray to jesus
have to play the game and pray to whatever diety you worship
or whatever your version of god is
Jesus hasnt helped me on this one yet; I've swapped to praying to Elmo
does it matter what stuff i do?
still nothing
basically just anything is where its dropped
Its rng can gather dirt piles
LFR, dirt piles, dungeons, etc.
And pretty sure same chance from anything just rare af
the way i understand sparks after free ones
so LFR would be wasting time no?
is that its a shit show crap shoot
Had a guildy get like 3 last week
you get one.... maybe not?
Better off digging
digging better than HC Raid / M+ 18?
legiondary is what i heard it compared to
Personally... LFR is a awful place where no one should go to.... but its dropped there for my guildies so what do I know
hm ok
Its exactly the legion legendary system pretty sure
those LFR bosses are harder then our mythic farm
the "higher drop on difficulty" makes no sense then
So its just any activity and pray
High m+ probably the best bet for gearing anyway
i have heard the after free sparks will drop as frequently as legion one does
its really just RNG
play the game, and youll get it at some point
no point trying to farm it out
Well blp probably applies to it so will drop eventually within a couple weeks
Cant imagine it isnt using same blp as legion did
Next spark i get gonna make a ring, gotta decide if doing haste verse or haste crit
not advice, i did teleport ring
Crit
and i did it haste/versa
i did all my crafts haste versa except for weapon
Where does that ring actually teleport you to

Interesting
its gonna yeet you into the maw
Could be fun for random transmog run I guess
Why am I seeing this word “maw” in the year of our lord 2023
Yeets to the maw and makes tou do 20 maw dailies and romance sylv to be allowed to leave
no, i actually needed to do that for the past month
I am instituting a global ban on all sl related words
Cease using them at this time and going forward
Banner
Ok banner was actually fun lmao
i had to farm out, at least 2000 anima for something in the base and then i had to pay 1000 for the amphitheatre , and then 3500, for the mog, in ardean weald
Just get it from the first dungeon you run after doing the spark quest

just to get some mog of branch wings, that are slightly more white
and i actually was spending a bunch of time doing the 500 anima and korthia questrs
I quit before last season, did we ever even find out what the jailers plan was?
redo shadowlands again but dont fuck it up, in like, 5 years
thats my message
just magic a reason that we have to go back
his plan was to get us out of the maw
What a nice guy
hes like 'yo Sylvanas, why you bring these dudes here! They are crazy.... ok, I need to find a way to yeet them out'
Only thing want to see brought back eventually is daddy danny
Castle Nathria as a raid is overrated imo
it was to re-do reality by using one of the zereth's(like powerful engines that every cosmic power(death/life/order etc.)) to "be prepared" what is coming
if i remember correctly
and so is Daddy D
by using azeroth as fuel btw
no, if you want to do ..... fuckin, motherfuckin .... death.... the grim reaper., as a boss in a video game......
Raz is the first last boss fight in a while that I actually kind of enjoy
it HAS to be done RIGHT
since like Jaina
I just think sire was really good character design
Sire's design is really neat
they should have continued with that style of raid story
reclearing that on heroic was always a pain week in week out
Heroic Raz reclears actually feel good
Which since they are running out of long standing lore villians getting a new good design ahould be capitalized on eventually
Rather then making him a throwaway first raid boss, so hopefully he is back sometime
"Castle Nathria was merely a setback!"
Ya they def set up a comeback but who knows if theyll follow through
sire denathrius's sword can trap souls or some shit cant it?
cuz, he gets traped in it remember
Could be a easy setup for a new legendary, complete the ritual, trap him in the sword
what if its like, oh no, theres a new super duper lich king and hes found and diverted and consuming the oribos power
cuz to me thats the bigest mystery of all, where the juice flowin to?
It was flowing to the maw
Wasn't this like the first thing we found out
Im happy if we just have four raids, with 4 end boss dragons
that I dont really care about
well, it just seems very anti climatic
as long as the fights arent BS
Ya this expansion i hope keeps it simple, just the dragons, cna have a cinematic at end raid to set uo next xpack villian
i just pray to god that they introduce some HUGE danger boy dragon as a final raid boss
so basically either + facing you or x facing you
Nathria was the best designed Raid in Shadowlands, and probably ther best designed raid in the last 3-4 xpacs
I want a 4 headed dragon
Spine of galacrond
onyxia 3: return to jailbreak
I agree, even the dance macabre fight was fucking hilarious too
Battle of Dazar Alor wants a word

I loved castle nathria, I despised the fact that gearing was songrindy
I mean most likely we face off against Murozond
the god of death in yugioh in dragon form
I loved the dance. The main thing I liked about the raid, though, was the quality of the voice acting and how the Raid told a story.
Blackrock Foundry was great
virtually nothing can kill it and it almost immediately ends the game when its summoned and attacks
Brf was some quality
The fights in the current tier are all almost forgettable aside from Raz, i have had the most fun tanking her
even if you do have removal, it has tons of support, so it just comes back again next turn
Black hand I think is my favorite boss fight
kt in naxx40 is mine
Zzz
Only did vault like twice on hc cu. Been an m+ andy only this tier but it def felt more like a early wow raid, forgettable bosses just generic fantasy bosses
Which isnt a bad thing
Black hand was awesome when he shattered the platform
Drops you into a volcano
I enjoy Kurog
My favorite boss fight ever. And also nicely tuned on mythic
Just the fight itself, needing to clear the balconies, fighting tanks..
The last phase was tuned crazy tight
Is there even
I enjoyed jaina tbh i think she pretty mixed on peoples opinions but just enjoyed the aesthetics of the fight a lot
Compared to like M+
Other then not getting to kill her
Jaina was another mythic fight that just did really well for who it was
Depends
Jaina was fun
Like M+ gets difficult for tanks cuz there every pull matters, and DPS Survivability trade-off is real
Some boss fights you're just pointing the boss and swapping on stacks, other fights positioning and tank mechanics are incredibly important
I guess positioning is abit diff
Last I tanked a raid was in MoP
SoO was fun to tank ngl
Like daddy D in CN tanks could pull some antics to maximize the fight
Tanking in general is fun
as long as you focus on the pump
basically playing a melee dps at that point who gets hit in the face also
Do raid bosses hit as hard as idk Jade Serpent 3rd boss on a tyra week xD
maybe during some Kurog overlaps
otherwise, no
jailer would like to have a word with the temple 3rd boss
or Brood
Some do laughable damage, others chunk the hell out of us
Brood can be pretty rough for the main tank
don't know what to choose, that All-totem is really tempting, atm i'm using the same belt at 415 and using a 408 crit+versa ring and 411 socketed haste+versa ring, as trinkets i use 411 whetstone+402 deco of flame
hey I soon can craft my first 418 item can someone tell me if I do Weapon / shild or lariat first? Im tanking M+ only
421's mean they never have to be changed
well, hes raiding
^
all totem feels really bad to take in vault ngl
i'm not raiding that much, just some weekly shit if i have time
unless it's mythic
it didnt drop for us last night... Im now praying that my vault has that or Icon

shield is most important slot, then weapon, then w/e else
@amber sirenthanks!
yeah i'm hoping to get it tonight...i dps in raid but the 2 tanks already have it
even though none of them do keys 
Overall, bosses in VotI:
Eranog: Traditional 1st boss loot pinata. Boring, which is not helped by the fact that Ner'zhul in SBG is a better implementation of the main fight mechanic
Council: Not actually a traditional council fight, but a "kill simultaneous" fight. Basically an extended M+ Bolstering encounter, rather than a raid boss.
Dathea: This boss exists purely to remind people how yeeting between platforms works, in preparation of Razageth
Terros: I hated Il'gynoth the first time, I am no happier at having to do it again
Sennarth: Actually quite a fun setup/boss space and encounter, but I agree with Kalecgos - I hate spiders
Kurog: Actually a good boss fight
Broodkeeper: Mobility fight, and a nice change of pace to have no tank swaps for once.
Razageth: Good fun in a guild group, utter cancer on LFR
thanks for the help
it may not be the most exciting raid but at least vault has no truly miserable fights imo
half of sofo i just dreaded doing
do we swap any talents on Council? 🤔
I was using normal raid build, did a decent parse on it
I go into Council with my full M+ build and go out to make the bad DPS cry
but probably with ITF? 🤔
I didn't, but you could if you wanted to
I love the huge M+ dps on the larger trash packs, and even making some of the good dps cry
^^
think i was pulling 108k + on those packs
max dps build looking to be this thing
Would be a lot better with better gear also
indom for bloodborne seems kinda sus
my 399 warr has like 5k more health than my 399 dk, doesnt make sense when dk has higher health scaling, and my dk shows 2k higher stamina. What am I missing?
That's troll build
nothing about that tree makes me happy
its 100 parse currently
Shild and 1 hander giving more stats?
on Council Mythic
oh it has Barbaric Training 🤣
This is what happens when you pull the entire corridor leading to Sennarth and lust it all:
Thats the pack i had in mind
i tried to do AA 15 or something i think, lock said he had 360k dps
It's fun is that pull
on the trash before the tree
Oh yeah, I love pulling all the plants. Screamingly big numbers.
R1 parse but jakey is right there without any bullshit build
Only 4k behind
And bear just shits on everyone 10fold
And boost had 2 PIs
imagine running a BS build and only doing 4k more
So lmao
Tis hilarious how crazy our AOES are
I miss the days when I was getting PI's on my hunter before they fucked up the specs
I really dont regret rolling warrior for this expac
Irs been gutted for M+
M+ MM and BM are just garbage now :/
didnt even see Jakey
Jakey 3rd on mine though 🤔
Raiding wise BM is meant to be pretty sexy
i am third on council
blessing of summer doesnt count for your own damage
its counted towards the paladin now
that sounds really good to me actually, i get summer and autumn, and then healer can take winter and spring

simming for 54k DPS in single target now 😎
and parse whoring on council
stop hacking wtf
gotten a lot of upgrades over the last 1-2 weeks
thats almost 3k more than me
ayyyy
i mean 4k more than me
its alright, I'll never reach my potential
i know u are gooder than me, but git gooderer
its set to 2
nome right again in his asumptions
brb to be embarrased
got a 421 ruby welp trinket. is it still good?
Running a sim on myself now, should be a laugh for you all
It CAN be good it sjust really inconsistent
see above, where I forgot to set sim to 5 minutes
nome laughing me all the way back to the raidbots queue
hmm :/
@grim grotto I was told yesterday ruby is sim bait for us
only on ST
So. Take it as you will but.. I didn't take the 418 shell I got from vault yday
Ok ty for ya teaching zen master
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vRSz8FiKX84pJK4aUMeQrG @strong forum don't worry, I haven't surpassed your sim yet
still, huge upgrade over 2 weeks ago
@grim grotto bait*
ruby isnt simbait
its as good as it sims
but its not better than already known good trinkets
but it has 20 itemlvl more. so its atleast a lot of strength more overall
do you train it on haste or dmg proc?
Does the catalyst still kill tertiaries / sockets?
ST proc
it never did as far as I know
@strong forumthx
its 5 minutes some reason, should be 3 mins oh well
5 minutes is the correct setting
and how we train it? read about it , but dont know where it is. cant find it in pins
it's supposed to
Good morning! I am just coming back from about a decade away from playing and I am wondering if there is a prefered source to research tanking keybinds/setups
wowhead article all about it https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-train-your-ruby-whelp-shell-very-high-damage-or-stat-trinket-330947
whatever is most comfortable to you
dont use mine
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6D98Z6aE6X2UMZkgkb4pK1
damn only 45k here 😦
with no WFT
keybinds are probably the most subjective thing
and depends on your mouse + keyboard setup
Looking for a place to start then I'll get subjective.
Nah, tertiary stats and sockets transfer over to the new item that is catalyzed
https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/330876
Gotta love the snarky "Please try again."
So I currently have Lariat+Fangs embelishment, but I am probably taking Seal of Diurna out of the vault. Would it be worth recrafting weapon without embellishment+making belt or is it simply a sim it and find out?
yes
Well yeah, that was a bug that they fixed according to that article
yeah and I'm asking if that bug is still present. I was warned about ti yesterdays
Oh, I haven't personally tested so cannot say but should be fixed
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/korgall/blorkid
My first raid as a tank
suh guys
what do you think if I have lariat ha/ve and crafted weapon ha/ve?
i'll sim obviously as well
I would grab that weapon 😄
That weapon is pretty sexy
pretty good!
id basically given up raiding as im getting old
And time is less but managed to get a pug raid and it was a lot of fun
Chasing the adds on brood was sucky though
so... if i have 4pc bonus now, and i can upgrade it all with valor, what would i spend my futur catalysts on?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3VvSYwCy9Pe23wbocfAAxV
48.5k with WFT 🤔
WFT? As in windfury totem?
yes
basically if you want to collect the belt, boots, wrists, etc tier appearances for transmog or items with better stats than you currently have
ye I sim with all options on (including wft)
oh yeah, thats another part of the voltron prot warrior, shaman for totems
I think most people do
ye
Pretty sure you have to go out of your way to not sim with all the buffs
you do
They’re just checked by default
damn i need a new helm+chest+cloak jeez
is there lists of what everything can turn into?
does any1 know the details code to combine all-totem trinket sources?
is 12% vers low for tanking because im prioritizing haste instead?
im 7%
doing +20s
im gunna attempt to look up a guide for catalytst, see what everything can turn into, and what has haste,
my vers is 6% and I'm starting to do 20s
8% doing 21s now.
do you stance dance while in packs as well?
versa crit, versa mastery...... blehhhhh wtf lol
BStance 90% of the time
not unless its giga damage intake
DStance if you feel unsafe
yeah
i pulled 4 packs in area 3 of nokhud by mistake in a 20
def sat in d stance for a bit lmao
for most normal and expected pulls you can be in bstance without issue
no
andy does 26s with 10% vers
vers is irrelevant to your success as a tank
crit gang for life tho
yeah i was just wondering because i thought it was low
still stuck in bfa times i guess
na servers up yet?
is that 42 with 5 itf
yes
or are you finding infinite haste rn
i remember a distinct warrior saying you needed 30% vers to do 18s in SL
havent tanked in a minute so just thought vers was as important as it used to be
wish NA servers were up
was it Jakey?
my vers is around 10%
vers would be much nicer if the damage reduction wasn't half of the damage increase
no
was not me
it's that, versa is a good scape goat target
and its something that tanks can generally use
what buff should we be taking in academy for tank?
crit go brrrrrrrr
the whole vers thing is just make believe that its "the tank stat" cuz it says so on the character sheet with its flat DR
I am gonna get some more mastery
critting and crit blocking, the prot warrior life
bom was good cuz it was free
I have eranog Trinket 402 and council trinket 395 - now i got torch 411 - think i Go with eranog and torch ?
I hope these new primordial gems coming in 10.0.7 are interesting and not just mandatory stat sticks
Is TC every other global during avatar a lie in ST or is the sim still bugged ?
Or is council so Strong in raid ?
free giga mastery
torch is better for personal, council is better for the group assuming you have each role with it
big dam and blocks
My engi CR helm cannot catastrophically fail
Yet I never had it succeed either
I am act gettin tired of it
is the wowhead gear guide accurate for m+ players??
I would do torch assuming you're the only council trinket holder @long stone
catastrophic fail is just suicide
Nope we got all roles With Council
absolutely not a lie
I had to "attempt" to cr my healer twice now
do you have the various specializations that prevent malfunction
Never once did it work
You still want to go ilvl > stats, so it doesn’t matter much.
Well I had to use my Knowledge Points to craft it properly first
Given mine is on a head slot I am considering just not having it atm
And getting a set piece there
ah yeah once you get the malfunction prevention stuff it is a lot more reliable
So council and torch ? Plus belt and Fire Dmg Ring ?
Well firstly I never need to CR ideally as a prot warr
@toxic gyro so would you normally go for the bigger ilvl upgrade everytime?
If I need to CR it means my Resto Druid is dead
think so @long stone triple council is big for the group
I mean you can always make the bracers instead of the goggles
If my resto druid is dead likelihood is I will die casting 4 second thing
Even as tank I find CR useful in certain situations so it is nice to have imo
if it fails im dead anyway
and torch is big damage for you, just remember you can't block/parry/dodge while channeling
I use it for casual 15 runs to help friends I guess
Ilvl > haste >crit=vers> mastery is general rule of thumb
simming is the ultimate answer tho
@strong forum sry for ping but is this true on St with avatar up ?
for "is this better than that"
can prot warrior attack with sheild in HoV??
Had this question 6 weeks ago and u said the sim logic was kinda bugged with avatar windows
You talking bout skovald?
Yes
@icy bane yes
I mean, that situation could occur @hazy sluice if you get a ton of lucky resets
Yeah it’s a “channel” but you can freely use your buttons
but doubtful in most situations
okay thanks was always to paranoid to test lol didnt wanna drop it and kill everyone
Ah okay so shield slam above everything even during avatar if I get lucky
yeah
Could use as a Initiative pull
Except for aoe ?
in 2 targets avatar TC does more damage, but shield block gets more rage and can reset
TC during avatar does more damage then SS on 2 targets, but you can still weave SS TC R TC etc etc
shield slam is always prio especially for outburst unless you get into giga targets
even in aoe
the TC above SS in single target in the prio list is more so people bash it into their head to weave thunderclap
It’s ok
but SS is big prio
I'm just so worried about doing it right. I am SS enjoyer and tend to overuse IP while all the SS resets are incoming but i see revenge being kinda top 3 in damage overall from top players and I am just at +20 keys
Shield is nice, stats are meh, i level can push it over the top especially with the higher i level
32% haste now with no haste chest or gloves
Want the damn court of stars chest 421 would be pog
I'm very close to crossing the magical 35% haste threshold pre itf
Like the rotation is so simple with three buttons yet so weird to know what to prio in different aoe count situations due to all the resets and the revenge set bonus proc
(with howling rune)
And then there is the avatar phase
I don't have the belt
Ye no haste on shield, gloves, chest.. I could be at 35% if those pieces weren’t trolling me
I often kinda just prio shield slam even in high target aoe to increase shield block duration and for rage
While others are like revenge TC spamming during cooldown high rage gen phase
I have a one button macro cast sequence shield slam, thunderclap
Okay thx
spam spam spam
prio dmg is what speeds up keys
and single target
the aoe pad will be picked up by dps
Yeah felt that especially in bolstering fort week
I'm gearing a warrior to have as an alt to do +20 to 24 keys for fun, which crafted items would you go for? Considering I won't probably need the potion one
Should I craft shield with spikes on it? Lariat and... Belt?
I won't raid with it
spikes count as embellishment
I’d say lariat pvp bracers
but then my overall DPS after the dungeon won't be giga high if I don't pad
Or combat rez bracers
i have this ring, very tempted to take it over broodkeeper ring. hmmm...
that ring is pretty shit
lol
fire ring is prolly your best pick from that vault

agreed
brood ring > rest of that imo
Ring is bis for fury right?
thats the shield one up there
id recraft your crafted gear to crit haste tbh
not the spicy fire one
not the eranog one
then you have good tank gear and good arms gear
I'd take the ring just cause it's rare
I just want NA servers up already 😦 I dunno why they didnt have the trading post stuff in the tuesday maintenance
that's a good idea but won't that compromise my survival?
no
no
more parry is good
crit is for dmg
less vers is bad
Excited for warden set tho
and vers is not why you would die
Fem nelf prot warrior with werden set
vers is not enough DR to compensate for bad play
my mind is fucking blown right now
what stat buff do we take in the academy ??
unless your in a high-end mythic guild the Heroic Version of that ring will be BIS this whole tier
fat male kul tiran warden warrior
5% Haste
so i'm going to take the ring and swap it with the nokhud ring.
Love it when
Another fort crawth week where I wish I was dwarf
If you do the Vexamus -> tree -> Crawth run this week you can prob switch Verse for Crawth if you're scared he slaps
DPS pops their every CD the moment fresh adds spawn in OA
And they get instant 1st melee'd to death
Start haste for Vexamus and his trash tho
Meanwhile my AoE taunt and all are onCD
dont do that
vers is 100% troll pick
I do Tree > Vexa > Crawth so I can BL both tree and Crawth
Vexa scarier than Tree nowadays
5% haste is probably bis in AA since it's not affected by diminishing returns
Don’t need BL on tree realistically
just free 5% haste
In my 20+ keys we go Vexamus - Tree - Crawth for Tyran + BL purposes
defo need BL on Crawth atleast
none of the stats in AA are affected by diminishing returns, but haste is multiplicative
if you have 30% haste, you get 7% haste from the buff
Tyra week is alot more pug unfriendly than fortified ngl
not 5
I died on Crawth by 800 over damage yest on 22 key. 5% Verse prob could've saved my key 😦
prolly missplayed then
I was also kinda wondering why 5 itf stacks gives more than 10%
but if it's multiplicative it makes sense
Yee by end you drained though
all haste % increases are multiplicative
A little more ST damage would've done he had 5.3% left when I died just barely on 3rd deafening sreech
hes a monk, thats why staff
right after anywho
haste OP
and you woulda drained quicker without the haste
like
maybe. Hard to not just send ava /w immovable could improve my timings
jesus NA maintinence extended to 11am pacific
its not that ypu dont get anything and that vers woulda only saved you there
feelsbadman
( Also I had the haste for this attempt )
y NA always down and EU always up
eu was deadge last night
immovable object feels 
cause blizz is stupid
last night for NA timezones
nah immovable object feels better to play imo
much better rotation
not this TC spam bullshit
dude what am i supposed to do for two and a half hours
I need more practice with it to take adv of the SW with it
every time i get a good amount of time to play blizz cant do there job and keep the damn game running
you just time all avatars for peck
idk, I like tclap spam. many lightning effects with glyph
he does it often enough
on tyran academy not playing immovable object is a lil troll IMO
its just too much value
wouldnt avatar not be up for every peck tho??
sure its not needed but it makes it a lot harder
you get it for every 2nd peck
not every peck but alot of them
then you have other CDs for others
what is the BiS cloak for prot warrior?
- healer external + dwarf
this one
im a human man....
421 pog
i think i have the same one 
that is from hov?
i think so
Ye
oh nvm i have the cloak of entanglement or something
From fenrir
100 less haste 100 more crit
love your equipment sets. Nice sentence haha.
i was thinking poison stained cloak from academy was BiS
nah that cloak is low haste
421 h/v 1h in vault. Do I Pog or Sadge because not strike twice
ilvl is ilvl
Ye 421 wep is 421 wep
gotta love it when HC Boon drops, and a full PVP gear Rogue doing 25k dps on the boss wins it
and just leaves 😄
pugging is amazing
is it still true on rings, i don't think you get str from rings
just stam and secondary
wait so we want strike twice??
tru
Max ilvl bis because of proc
the proc is essentially a free embellishment
just get it on mythic 4head
less powerful than fang adornment but only slightly less
Only one haste shield from m+ right?
damn why wowhead wrong on every bis item
i dont do Mythic raid
fang adornment isn't even good anyways
they dont take embellishments/procs into consideration iirc @haughty gulch
Free 1% damage is 1% damage bro
they just build around stats
yeah
fair enough
damn so glad i joined this discord
You a vers guy or crit guy nom?
im in the same boat as you then, but my shield is 408, so im not complaining too badly
i put a large portion of my valor into that
there was 2 weeks i did only 3 upgrads on shield
Ye I got a 415 really early, still been trying to snipe 421 AV shield
you look like arms
If I didn’t piss away my sparks I would’ve made crafted shield
Hello Skyhold how are we today
i have maximum shield spec
Waiting on seventh spark
i'm still looking for my 6th

same
Got one on the day introduced drops Giga lucky
yeah still looking for my 6th
especially now that i have the brood ring i need to make the belt
LOL, need 3 more 16+s to recraft my shield. 36 declines in a row, and 4 17 CoS groups where the key holder bailed on the 2nd boss last night before I got tired and logged.
same
is upgrading gear to max same as getting it in vaults?
bro just do SBG spam
thinking of turning my 408 dath necklace into a lariat with my 6th spark
but would be sad to lose a ton of haste
vault can go up to 421, crafted only 418
Valor upgrade 415, vault max 421, crafted max 418
Tuesday on Stormrage: "+16. 430 ilvl minimum". 🧐
crafted is the item can be garunteed to be anything except for 5 stars
its a small bonus, you know what you get before hand
has to be joke
What it feels like.
yes, is joke for sure
#carrymeharderlyfe
+2+++ 3200io required vibes
you know why though? because it works!!
you could guarantee 5 star but you need bis crafting gear and the optional reagent that costs a lot of mettle
for sure, if the group im in can help guide so i can just do my combat thing, thats the ideal scenario if im not sure whre to go
So i see shards of domination system is coming back according to data mining?
(court of stars....)
Where can I find the list of reflectable casts for m+
seems like it, no set bonuses mined yet tho
Bring back the borrowed power. Oh yes.
Court of stars easy to navigate tho
I didnt play shadowlands, how bad was it to get these gems/socketed gear
Hopefully its some flavor thing that is actually shit like 402 gear or something, otherwise maybe time to bail before the real shit comes
really annoying?
You had to do the raid.
ah
they will have to completely change how to get the shards for it to make sense in DF
I'm sure that won't be the case with...whatever this abomination is.
fuck that trinket
For playing soccer
idk so far DF has been good with the decision making. Until more info is mined/found out, I'll wait and see
i call it soccer, or football if they don't understand
trinket bad
Ya ill wait and see what it sctually looks like but if its truly borrowed power system again ill jump ship for sure not falling for that again
ngl its a red flag when groups look further for non-prot warr tanks
I would just hate if shit like the gem that requires you to stand still is BiS
Only trinket like that I ever enjoyed was the Tomb one.
Legit means the group leader is bad
should tank be getting soccer balls at bird boss in Academy?
Yes
i just sit my ass
Someone requested this template, so here is the shotgun template.
? ? ?
You literally have nothing else to do besides cycle defensives and pool rage for ip so may as well toss balls
if a prot warr is there
I liked poop rage better.
??? lmao
A non fotm tank clearly
wut
Any tank that isnt prot warr is default bad
no
that is categorically wrong lmao
if u dont have every tank class max level
VDH was poopy
idk what u doing
patch notes move 2 fast
I dont gear them but they are there just in case
takes a week anyway
I only main prot idc if we are so bad we actively heal enemies ill main prot
But i play most tanks as alts
would be funny tho
Brew gang rise up
i dont get Fotm picking, i only need the tank/class i play to be able to do 15's for that sweet sweet mount! (not this one tho)
Warrior was giga fun in BFA in general
Even when people dogged us in S1
If every season is a reskin of this mount, I just might need to burn down a building.
it will be
Damage 📈
i dont understand how brew works lol so never gave it much of a try past lvling
Fotm picking has its place if your aiming for the seasonal title, but outside that ya just play what enjoy
it has never deviated from that rule
rip, I wish we could get DF dragon model redesign as a KSM reward like how raid and PVP has one
1 xpac = same skin for glad and same skin for KSM mount, just diff colour
there is a possibility that its diff in DF
but i wouldnt count on it
Too bad m+ doesn't get a dragonriding skin
yeah
Just press buttons that’s been my mentality
big sadge
I want a dragonriding skin
Glad one looks fuckin' cool
yeah i know it will be reskin but this my first xpac actually going for 15's so gotta work at making 15's easier for me personally so in future xpacs with non shit mounts i can get those too
Make it require all 20s
Just wonder ehat they plan to do with dragon riding next expansion, i cant imagine them going back to old flying but also im sure designing zones around it takes a lot of extra dev work
lol maybe will try once i finish my KSM
I would be on that grindset so fast if they made it an all 20s req
thats for if you want to make your mount flying or not
underwater expansion
so now we have super swimming
or it has armor or some shit
with a submarine
"Designing" as in, "finding random pixels intended for collision DC-ing"?
dont do underwater shit.
please not another underwater zone
cataclysm 2: electric dragonflying boogaloo
KSH is all 18s now right?
i want every mount to have flying, lots of other games have it and we have soooo many cool ground mounts that get little to no use
underground expac, nerubian empire v2
no
I didnt have all 18s
or, what about a expansion where the whole zone is a big city
and you have to take public transit to get places
no sewer maps blizzard
That’s odd I could of swore I got the achiev at 2500 but Idr
why did everyone hate vash i thought it was great
I got it at 2500, but didnt need to do all 18s
its called dragon flight and first thing they do is give you dragon that flies
but not like flight point transit; im talking like train between Stormwind to Ironforge
Gotta run dailies to recharge your Charlie Card?
Word I had a few above and 1 below 18 when I got mine
Does frog skip in azure vault still work?
What do you think, is it worth to recraft gear from haste/versa to haste/crit?
yea, gotta get off at park and take the green line... but the train is delayed for mainteance
Deserter buff for hopping the turnstyle.
now ya scewed
Really depends how you define worth
im not entirely sure what a charlie card is but i googled it
@deft mortar it worked yesterday
after azureblade right?
ya the drop down
Thanks man
im good defensive wise, so my aim is to maximise my dmg output
More damage over marginal defensive boost, really depends on the price people charge and for mats id say
Gold is not my problem
crit is better for damage than vers
Then switching stats would be the best way to optimize, yes
Ok alright.
i managed to get 2 of those alchemy pockets, sold them both for 100k
you could always sim yourself with artificially inserted gear in your simc
that has different stats
Got alchemy pocket on the first soup haven’t seen one since lolol
each, so i got to spend tons of gold on buying appearances and recipes and what not
What do you guys use for prot m+ sim? Dungeonslice or some custom settings?
ST Patwork 5 min
Patchwork 5 targets and play with the length
5T patchwork
I need to start doing boosts i think, ive spent a lot of gold over last couple expacs without farming any. End of legion i had multiple gold capped chars now down to only a few mil
I wish Potion Absorption Inhibitor didnt take an embellishment slot like the food buff one
do both, gives a good idea of what you should do
